David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Who cares about the political parties? The seats have been filled so let the Circus begin ASAP.
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-progressive-conservative-mla-work-1.4839797
Progressive Conservative MLAs ready to get to work
PC Leader Blaine Higgs to meet with lieutenant-governor on Thursday
· CBC News · Posted: Sep 26, 2018 6:36 PM AT
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Lou Bell
They need 25 votes for the
majority , plus one as speaker. Higgs has the best option . Gallant cut
his chances off by rejecting PA option . Higgs has lots of options .
Deals open with both PA AND the Greens. Common sense dictates odds are
with him ! For Libs, 21 plus 3 DOES NOT = 25 , no matter how much you
adjust the figures !
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell
Greens said it wont align with any party that is involved against language so that option is off the table buddy.
Greens said it wont align with any party that is involved against language so that option is off the table buddy.
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin You'll be surprised !
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks you are already surprised N'esy Pas?
Barry Odonnell
@Marc Martin Scared?
Pierre LaRoches
@Lou Bell Liberals are never good at math
Marc Martin
@Barry Odonnell
Not at all, why would I be ? The Green already said they wont support a government that don't address global climate.
Not at all, why would I be ? The Green already said they wont support a government that don't address global climate.
David Amos
@Pierre LaRoches "Liberals are never good at math"
Methinks the same can be said of Conservatives as well N'esy Pas?
"In addition to his MLA's annual salary of $84,674, former Speaker Chris Collins earned $52,415 for ministerial and other duties.
That's according to the government's unaudited supplementary employee lists from 2017.
It also lists $31,914 for his Speaker expenses and allowance and $6,574 for a car allowance.
Thompson said he doesn't think any of his fellow caucus members would accept.
"I think they're smart enough to say no," he said."
Methinks the same can be said of Conservatives as well N'esy Pas?
"In addition to his MLA's annual salary of $84,674, former Speaker Chris Collins earned $52,415 for ministerial and other duties.
That's according to the government's unaudited supplementary employee lists from 2017.
It also lists $31,914 for his Speaker expenses and allowance and $6,574 for a car allowance.
Thompson said he doesn't think any of his fellow caucus members would accept.
"I think they're smart enough to say no," he said."
David Amos
@Marc Martin So you say
Lou Bell
I have a suspicion the
Liberals Saint John winner will flip. He won by , what 10 votes ? Speaks
volumes when you look at how many VOTED AGAINST HIM . He did state he
ran to look after Saint Johns' meeds , and Methinks Higgs can
accommodate him .
Marc Martin
@Lou Bell
I think all 3 MLA elected up north will flip to Libs if the Cons try to form an alliance with the anti-French purple party
I think all 3 MLA elected up north will flip to Libs if the Cons try to form an alliance with the anti-French purple party
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin Oh, the anti English guys you mean .
David Amos
@Marc Martin Who are the 3 MLAs elected up north?
Barry Odonnell
@Andrew St.John You have to
forgive Marc. He has watched the Liberals waste tons of money and bend
over backwards to appease the wants of the french and now that some of
that may be taken back he is crying like a baby.
Marc Martin
@Andrew St.John
*wrongly, paint the PA as anti-French*
95% of their platform is on the French language issue. So yeah Barneys purple party is anti-French.
*wrongly, paint the PA as anti-French*
95% of their platform is on the French language issue. So yeah Barneys purple party is anti-French.
Marc Martin
@Barry Odonnell
Yeah the French I got a tone of money.......The only thing the French got is the same rights you currently have. Are you Rosie Odonnell brother?
Yeah the French I got a tone of money.......The only thing the French got is the same rights you currently have. Are you Rosie Odonnell brother?
wayne guitard
@Marc Martin What 3 MLA's ? The PC's only elected one candidate up north.
Marc Martin
@wayne guitard
they have elected 2 more Francophone onessouth :)
they have elected 2 more Francophone onessouth :)
David Amos
@Lou Bell I doubt that one of Frank McKenna's old pals would flip for Higgs in a month of Sundays
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-harbour-nb-election-2018-1.4808144
"A city councillor for five years, he played a key role in successfully persuading council to ask the province to repeal the city's longstanding tax deal with Irving Oil on the Canaport LNG terminal.
He decided to run provincially for the Liberals at the request of Brian Gallant and former premier Frank McKenna.
"There are so many things that have to be changed and they all exist in Fredericton," Lowe said."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-harbour-nb-election-2018-1.4808144
"A city councillor for five years, he played a key role in successfully persuading council to ask the province to repeal the city's longstanding tax deal with Irving Oil on the Canaport LNG terminal.
He decided to run provincially for the Liberals at the request of Brian Gallant and former premier Frank McKenna.
"There are so many things that have to be changed and they all exist in Fredericton," Lowe said."
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Are you Rosie Odonnell brother?"
You can't argue so you insult?
You can't argue so you insult?
John Pokiok
Best outcome ever for New
Brunswick. Finally these politicians will have to work for the money and
people finally might benefit here. Also big misconception and quite
frankly fear mongering is that people alliance party is not in favour of
French this is not the case at all. We are and always will be bilingual
province but what we don't need is dual unilingual servicing we need
one service in bilingual language so duality and money throwing at this
needs to end.
Roy Nicholl
@Marc Martin
Of their candidates I heard speak (in person or in news coverage), not one made any effort to speak in French. They likely have some candidates who can speak French - at least as well as Mr. Higgs - but you are not going to reach people unless you make the effort to communicate with them.
Of their candidates I heard speak (in person or in news coverage), not one made any effort to speak in French. They likely have some candidates who can speak French - at least as well as Mr. Higgs - but you are not going to reach people unless you make the effort to communicate with them.
David Amos
@Roy Nicholl Methinks you missed a lot French speaking candidates such as Hache, Volpe, Soucy, and Laundry N'esy Pas?
wayne guitard
@Marc Martin The Acadian Society is anti English, but that doesn't seem to bother the Liberals.
Marc Martin
@wayne guitard
No its not, it defends the right already acquired its not trying to remove current rights like PANB does.
No its not, it defends the right already acquired its not trying to remove current rights like PANB does.
David Amos
@wayne guitard "The Acadian Society is anti English"
At least they are honest about their contempt towards us. The liberals are not.
At least they are honest about their contempt towards us. The liberals are not.
Adam Johnson
I love these comments about
how the government cannot effectively govern without a majority - Oh you
mean it could be a problem with having other parties voices heard and
that the government couldn't just have complete absolute power to drive
us into Bankruptcy? This is the trickster nonsense that occurs every
election and attempts to scare people into voting for either Liberal or
PC. The PCs fear monger to folks that they will split the vote. This
election speaks volumes - they (Libs or PC maybe) just don't like the
fact they would have to deal with 3 green seat and 3 PANB. The CBC
falsely allows a narratives to occur that PANB is against Francophone
people - this is not true and anyone with a brain who listens to PANB
understands this. Bilingualism as it stands is going to financially
rupture us if not already. We are 14.2 B $ in debt!!! ~ $83000 and hour
in interest per hour! Wake Up!
Marc Martin
@Adam Johnson
If bilingualism is such an issue you want to save money? Why don't we make everything French ?
If bilingualism is such an issue you want to save money? Why don't we make everything French ?
Al Bekirkey
@Marc Martin why dont we make everything micmac the ligitimate property owners are going to step in if the gov doesnt form
David Amos
@Marc Martin Remember me? Trust that I will call your boss again.
Scott McLaughlin
Thompson is a well-respected and experienced MP. He'll be an excellent MLA for sure.
David Amos
@Scott McLaughlin Methinks that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Edwin Kelley
No sense postponing the
inevitable,let's just call another election now and save time and money.
Neither party can effectively govern given the numbers.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Edwin Kelley, Nope! It's an impasse.
Marc Martin
@Edwin Kelley
I agree, this just nonsense and another election will attract more voters.
I agree, this just nonsense and another election will attract more voters.
Roy Nicholl
@Edwin Kelley
That is the lesson to be learned here. The elected members need to park their parties and their partisan tribalism at the doors to the legislature and work together for the benefit of the province.
Parties do not govern, governments govern. Governments are formed by grouping of elected members ... parties are not required.
That is the lesson to be learned here. The elected members need to park their parties and their partisan tribalism at the doors to the legislature and work together for the benefit of the province.
Parties do not govern, governments govern. Governments are formed by grouping of elected members ... parties are not required.
David Peters
@Edwin Kelley
One more election...if we get another impasse, let's split the Province in two.
One more election...if we get another impasse, let's split the Province in two.
David Amos
@Edwin Kelley Who cares about the political parties? The seats have been filled so let the Circus begin ASAP.
Barry Odonnell
@David Peters It already is. French. And English. This election proved it.
Marc Martin
@David Peters
Sur you can get everything south of Moncton.
Sur you can get everything south of Moncton.
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks that your boss must know that you are not a very clever bureaucrat N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@Marc Martin "Sur you can get everything south of Moncton"
Methinks the Bay of Fundy is south of Moncton N'esy Pas?
Many folks know I was raised in Dorchester but went to High School in Fredericton in the sixties when your hero Little Louie centralized the government and forced my family to move there.
Methinks you know why that as I ran in FUNDY again in this election and why I reminded folks of this story which appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
Methinks the Bay of Fundy is south of Moncton N'esy Pas?
Many folks know I was raised in Dorchester but went to High School in Fredericton in the sixties when your hero Little Louie centralized the government and forced my family to move there.
Methinks you know why that as I ran in FUNDY again in this election and why I reminded folks of this story which appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
David Amos
@David Amos Oh My My
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Sur you can get everything south of Moncton"
Thanks for proving my point in spades.
Thanks for proving my point in spades.
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Who will be the speaker? Who may turncoat? Methinks lots of things can happen between now and Xmass Time N'esy Pas?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/premier-government-new-brunswick-election-1.4838761
Liberals court Greens for governing partnership
Premier has to act quickly to seek the confidence of house, professor says
· CBC News · Posted: Sep 26, 2018 12:00 PM AT
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bill chagwich
if Brian had any class he would acknowledge defeat and resign
BobbyTaylor
@bill chagwich - how do you put class and a politician in the same sentence?
David Amos
@bill chagwich Methinks in order to have any class at all one should show some semblance of integrity first N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@BobbyTaylor I can't
Gerry Ferguson
I can't wait for him to get
defeated and turn the keys over to Higgs & Austin. People in the
lower 2/3 of the province are fed up with liberal governance
Douglas James
@Gerry Ferguson Please explain the difference between liberal governance and conservative governance.
David Amos
@Douglas James "Please explain the difference between liberal governance and conservative governance."
Methinks it is as this article states. The Liberals have you Green Party people for pals and the Conservatives have the PANB for buddies N'esy Pas?
Methinks it is as this article states. The Liberals have you Green Party people for pals and the Conservatives have the PANB for buddies N'esy Pas?
Roy Nicholl
@Scott McLaughlin wrote:
"Liberal = free stuff for everybody nobody works!!
Conservative = don't spend money like a kid with daddy's credit card"
Historically both have been pretty ample spenders ... they just spend on different things and folks.
"Liberal = free stuff for everybody nobody works!!
Conservative = don't spend money like a kid with daddy's credit card"
Historically both have been pretty ample spenders ... they just spend on different things and folks.
David Amos
@Roy Nicholl C'est la meme chose N'esy Pas?
Jim Moore
Its literally impossible for
the liberals to form a government, even if all the greens support them
they still fall 2 seats short and the PC and PA won't vote them in, so
they should basically just resign, its over. The PC will form a
government with the PA and Green party. Shame on the Liberals, they
are acting like spoiled children who are mad they lost, you can't
avoid a vote for months because you want to throw a temper tantrum,
hopefully the rest of the people who did vote for them see how unfit to
govern they actually are. We won't see a Liberal government in NB for a
very long time now, and coming in the fall will be the end of them
federally as well.
David Amos
@Jim Moore Methinks the Fat Lady ain't sung yet N'esy Pas?
Frank G. Castiglione (AKA TFL)
He can resign now, or he can resign after the non confidence vote. Either way his government wont last past the throne speech.
David Amos
@Frank G. Castiglione (AKA TFL) I would not bet the farm on your opinion. Anything can happen in this ongoing Circus.
Roy Nicholl
@SarahRose Werner
Not necessarily. If the current government faces the legislature and cannot secure the confidence of the house, then the Lieutenant Governor would likely offer the opposition the opportunity to seek the confidence of the house.
Not necessarily. If the current government faces the legislature and cannot secure the confidence of the house, then the Lieutenant Governor would likely offer the opposition the opportunity to seek the confidence of the house.
David Amos
@Roy Nicholl YUP
Buford Wilson
Brian needs to get out of the way.
So Blaine can begin to clean up the mess.
So Blaine can begin to clean up the mess.
David Amos
@Buford Wilson Methinks a lot of it is his mess N'esy Pas?
Al Heywood
Liberals in Canada will do whatever it takes to retain power, even when they lose elections.
David Amos
@Al Heywood The proof is before you
Mark Deckard
Hear that Brian? The Fat Lady is singing your song. Oh hey, can you close the door on your way out? Thanks.
Stephen Long
@Mark Deckard Didn't know Francine Landry could sing.
David Amos
@Mark Deckard The Fat Lady ain't singing yet and everybody in the know knows why.
Don Cameron
For Gallant to claim he knows the will of the people, following the election, is absurd.
I agree completely with the premise of the article. Get on with recalling Parliament. Waiting until Christmas leaves a stain on this election and his party.
I agree completely with the premise of the article. Get on with recalling Parliament. Waiting until Christmas leaves a stain on this election and his party.
David Amos
@Don Cameron Welcome back to the Circus
Roy Kirk
It is one thing for a member
to cross the floor when they find their party is not behaving as they
think it should in the Leg, but quite another to do so after having just
been elected on their party's ticket and not even taken a seat in the
Leg. The latter would be unconscionable -- hardly the act of an
'honourable gentle-person'.
David Amos
@Roy Kirk Have you ever heard of a political dudes such as David Emerson or Jean Charest?
Robert Anderson
Not going to work. The
Conservatives and PA are going to have more seats. Gallant needs to stop
the delay tactics and just resign.
David Amos
@Robert Anderson Methinks it would not be wise to bet on Gallant resigning N'esy Pas?
Peter Inya
2019 can't come soon enough.
David Amos
@Peter Inya I concur
Mark Deckard
Expect a full court press by
Brian & the Liberals to get Robert Gauvin (PC) and Kevin Arsenault
(Green) to cross the floor. It won't work.
mishka landry
@Mark Deckard The Greens do
not have to cross the floor. They can agree to support the government on
a case by case basis. The Greens and Liberals so not have to have
anyone stand for speaker which means a speaker would have to be
appointed from the PC or PA ranks.
Jim Moore
@mishka landry Even with all
the greens they still can't form a government, its still short a seat.
24 isn't enough, and a PC or a PA won't vote for them because they know
they will form the government when the Liberals fail as they surely
will. Anyone hoping for the liberals to stay in power are just plain
delusional, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
David Amos
@Mark Deckard "It won't work."
Don't bet on it
Don't bet on it
David Amos
@Mark Deckard Survey Says?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ridings-to-watch-new-brunswick-1.4835300
"The Greens placed second in the riding in 2014, so there is a base of support for the party in the riding. Arseneau is a former president of the Acadian society and he had wanted to run for the Liberals in the riding. However, the Liberals did not approve his candidacy, so Arseneau switched to the Greens."
https://mobile.twitter.com/poitrascbc?lang=en
Jacques Poitras @poitrasCBC 3h
Some PC MLAs won't be comfortable with Alliance cooperation, Gallant says. He names Robert Gauvin in particular.
https://www.reddit.com/r/newbrunswickcanada/comments/9iwu19/make_your_predictions_round_2_deuxi%C3%A8me_ronde_de/
"Except for Gauvin on the north shore. If the PC side with PA - he’s better off switching to support the francophone population in that area."
Roy Nicholl
@David Amos
If Gauvin finds himself unable to support the direction in which his party is moving, he could choose to sit as an independent.
If Gauvin finds himself unable to support the direction in which his party is moving, he could choose to sit as an independent.
Emilen Forest
Brian...the people of New Brunswick have spoken. Respect that voice, respect New Brunswicker's democracy.
David Amos
@Emilen Forest Brian only listens to the crickets these days.
fred smith
Seems like the party winning the fewer seats refusing to concede isn't as normal as many wanted use to believe yesterday.
Michael Jessome
@fred smith
@fred smith
Seems like the Libs/Greens/PA hold the majority of the seats with 27, while the Cons have 22.
fred smith
@Michael Jessome
Seems like the PC/PA/Greens hold more of a majority with 28 then the Liberals 21.
But I fail to see how this is relevant.
Seems like the PC/PA/Greens hold more of a majority with 28 then the Liberals 21.
But I fail to see how this is relevant.
David Amos
@fred smith "I fail to see how this is relevant."
Methinks that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Methinks that thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?
Jason DeBack
Neither lib nor con deserve
the helm any longer provincially or federally...they both deserve a very
serious time out from power...
David Amos
@Jason DeBack YUP Methinks forever may not be long enough N'esy Pas?
Jason DeBack
@David Amos
it's a start
it's a start
David Amos
@Jason DeBack YUP
fred smith
How many years does a Premier of NB need in order to qualify for a pension?
David Amos
@fred smith Methinks that was
the first question Gallant asked his beancounter once the polling
results came rolling in N'esy Pas?
Mark Deckard
No, Brian Gallant cannot
rag-the-puck, or he'll be risking a worse concussion than the one he
suffered in 2017 while playing hockey with the Saint John Sea Dogs.
David Amos
@Mark Deckard Methinks he gonna try N'esy Pas?
Neil MacLean
Somebody has to agree to be
speaker. It should be somebody with some depth of experience in the
legislature. You aren't going to get a party leader, so I'd say that
lets out Mr C of the Greens. It also eliminates all the newbies from the
2 lesser parties. So that means either a Conservative or a Liberal is
going to have to let their team down for anyone to agree to be speaker.
If the speaker is a Liberal, the PC+PA could form a "stable" government
just until somebody (anybody) gets sick, or frustrated. Can PA extract
what they want from Higgs? Liberals+Greens? Not likely because Liberals
would still be 1 seat short of majority even if they got a PC to be
speaker. What PC would desert his/her team to become speaker for such
short term prospects? Or you have to ask what Liberal would dessert
their to become speaker when again the prospects for the government
lasting more than a year would possibly be slight. I imagine all these
guys are looking at each other and trying to guess at each other's
prospects for health or rebellion. Another election may well come very
soon.
David Amos
@Neil MacLean Methinks nobody wants to be the Speaker of possibly the shortest Parliament in NB history N'esy Pas?
mishka landry
No party was received a
majority mandate from the voters. As the incumbent Premier Westminster
convention dictates he is given the first opportunity to form a
government. He has the absolute right to reconvene the legislature to
ascertain confidence. If he cannot command confidence then the LG can
ask the Conservative leader to form a government. If no party can
command confidence then Gallant can request dissolution and a fresh
election. The PC's would require the support of the PA. Even then it is
an unstable government given a speaker must be appointed which would
still leave a virtual tie. The Liberals did win the most votes despite
coming up one seat short.
David Amos
@mishka landry Your point is?
SarahRose Werner
Me personally, I would love
to see a Liberal-Green coalition government. But 21+3 is still only 24,
which is not a majority. Unless Gallant can get a PC MLA to cross the
floor, I don't see how he's going to put a government together.
David Amos
@SarahRose Werner Methinks all the old ghosts around the Bay of Fundy know that time will tell the tale N'esy Pas?
Mar Pell
Give it t months to a year
before the next election is called and have the conservatives follow
Harper's history - down the drain and for good.
David Amos
@Mar Pell That is what I am smelling
Ted Robson
The Liberals have 21 seats. The Greens have 3 seats. A majority requires 25 seats. What is it with Liberals and math?
David Amos
@Ted Robson Wait and see
Jar Fabes
Even with the Greens he wont be a majority so why would it even matter if he did that?
David Amos
@Jar Fabes Wait and see
Stephen Long
Watch him offer lucrative
positions to PCs to cross the floor and boost his seat numbers. And
then watch us become bankrupt as the PCs let their greed get the better
of them.
Peter Manchak
@Stephen Long I suggest the greed is all Liberals..IMO newboi
David Amos
@Peter Manchak Methinks we should just sit back and enjoy the Circus we are already paying for it N'esy Pas?
John Pokiok
Best outcome ever for New
Brunswick. Finally these politicians will have to work for the money and
people finally might benefit here. Also big misconception and quite
frankly fear mongering is that people alliance party is against French
this is not the case at all. We are and always will be bilingual
province but what we don't need is dual unilingual servicing we need one
service in bilingual language so duality and money throwing at this
needs to end.
David Amos
@John Pokiok "Best outcome ever for New Brunswick."
I wholeheartedly agree with that part of your statement but not the rest of it.
I wholeheartedly agree with that part of your statement but not the rest of it.
Pat Lur
Isn't that still one seat short? If the Conservatives also courted the Greens, they would have enough.
David Amos
@Pat Lur Who will be the speaker? Who may turncoat? Methinks lots of things can happen between now and Xmass Time N'esy Pas?
Rob Frost
Cannot blame him for wanting to cling on to being premier, the guy has nothing else to do.
David Amos
@Rob Frost Methinks Gallant must hang in as Premier as long as possible in order to secure a great pension N'esy Pas?
Gary MacKay
It truly appears that the
people of NB have voted for :None of the Above; the party leaders (Lib
&PC) should, IMO, go back to their base and look for new party
leadership. Neither has sufficient support to survive another election
with the existing leaders. IMO they need to reflect on where they are
today. Get over the posturing and offer new leadership.
My guess is Spring rehash after a terminal winter.
My guess is Spring rehash after a terminal winter.
David Amos
@Gary MacKay Methinks many would agree that Higgs could be the Premier for about two years N'esy Pas?
Hubert Ling
The recount results for a number of very close seats could be very interesting.
@Hubert Ling I suspect there will be no change in the status quo
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks the
liberals want peoplekind to never forget that they claim to be "Canada's
Natural Governing Party" N'esy Pas?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/new-brunswick-election-ottawa-1.4838504
How Ottawa is reading New Brunswick's wild election result
Does the split result reflect momentum for Conservatives, or something else entirely?
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David Amos
"The red wall in Atlantic
Canada has been breached," said David McLaughlin, a former deputy
minister in New Brunswick and chief of staff to former Conservative
premier Bernard Lord."
Yea Right
Methinks everybody knows that I made certain that Trudeau and Trump and many other politicians knew my name was on the ballot again in Fundy. Trust that David McLaughlin and his old boss Mr Lord are very familiar with this story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
Terrance Van Gemert
The new brunswick election
signals something else.. people are slowly going to be disruptors by
throwing the establish to commit to something they do not want to do or
forfeit power the people or small minority can get ahold of two parties
and make the other parties go further than they wanted to before.
Or face another election now that people know how close they did come step up the game and smaller parties can hijack mainstream parties who want to remain in control. yeah then the next election if they do cave and suck up then why vote for the weaker party and go after the other minor other.. its wide game really. Very political.. That is why proportional voting representation is better.. not 1st choice or 2nd choice option. Just one vote that is all nothing more nothing less, than the real majority votes will matter.
Or face another election now that people know how close they did come step up the game and smaller parties can hijack mainstream parties who want to remain in control. yeah then the next election if they do cave and suck up then why vote for the weaker party and go after the other minor other.. its wide game really. Very political.. That is why proportional voting representation is better.. not 1st choice or 2nd choice option. Just one vote that is all nothing more nothing less, than the real majority votes will matter.
David Amos
@Terrance Van Gemert "The new brunswick election signals something else."
I agree with you that far at least
I agree with you that far at least
Rob Preston
Liberals arrogantly feel entitled to rule. They are right. Just ask them.
Marguerite Deschamps
@carl boben, actually, they
did have a lot of success in winning elections ever since the first
world war as they have been in power since for most of the time.
Jim Clark
@Rob Preston only a narcissist would proclaim victory when he lost.Trudeau is gone next year.
Dustin Carey
@Rob Preston
I'm sorry the Canadian Constitution is so inconvenient to your sense of justice.
I'm sorry the Canadian Constitution is so inconvenient to your sense of justice.
Shane Christopher
@Jim Clark How will he be gone if the Cons keep splitting into different parties? They can't even get along with EACH OTHER!
David Allan
@Rob Preston
"Liberals arrogantly feel entitled to rule."
It says so in the Constitution.
The Constitution exists to outline the entitlements of government.
"Liberals arrogantly feel entitled to rule."
It says so in the Constitution.
The Constitution exists to outline the entitlements of government.
David Allan
@Jim Clark
"only a narcissist would proclaim victory when he lost"
Yet there Hogg is, claiming he won when the Constitution says he didn't.
If governing according to the Constitution is not his goal as an MPP, how is he qualified to govern at all?
"only a narcissist would proclaim victory when he lost"
Yet there Hogg is, claiming he won when the Constitution says he didn't.
If governing according to the Constitution is not his goal as an MPP, how is he qualified to govern at all?
David Amos
@Rob Preston Methinks the
liberals want peoplekind to never forget that they claim to be "Canada's
Natural Governing Party" N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/checkup/what-s-the-future-look-like-under-the-new-liberal-government-1.3285114
"Mr. Trudeau's victory spells the end of the Liberal Party's decade in the political wilderness, and perhaps even its return as Canada's 'natural governing party.' "
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/checkup/what-s-the-future-look-like-under-the-new-liberal-government-1.3285114
"Mr. Trudeau's victory spells the end of the Liberal Party's decade in the political wilderness, and perhaps even its return as Canada's 'natural governing party.' "
@David Allan "If governing according to the Constitution is not his goal as an MPP, how is he qualified to govern at all?"
Methinks everybody in New Brunswick knows that Gallant and his minions are not called MPPs N'esy Pas?
Methinks everybody in New Brunswick knows that Gallant and his minions are not called MPPs N'esy Pas?
Ethan Beaver
Embarrasing tha the Liberals hold all 32 seats in Atlantic Canada. They have got to go.
David Amos
@Ethan Beaver I concur
stephen blunston
good bye to libs I say. tired
of ever increasing taxes and fees, making new taxes we in NB cant
afford to give anymore , and tired of empty promises from the lib
governments with not ethics and major waste of money
David Amos
@stephen blunston Methinks many folks in the southern part of the province have obviously agreed with you N'esy Pas?
Andrew Wisdom
holding on and promoting a
Carbon Tax will be the death of the Liberal party across the country -
just ask Stephane Dion - all it does is create a government slush fund
through which they can do whatever they want - very little if anything
actually goes toward environmental protection
Marc Martin
@Andrew Wisdom
Its not about Carbon tax, the Anglo population of NB voted anti-French this election, its all about language.
Its not about Carbon tax, the Anglo population of NB voted anti-French this election, its all about language.
Vernon McPhee
@Marc Martin Sort of like the Franco population always votes anti-English? If you assume French = Liberal and PC = English.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Vernon McPhee C'est la meme chose N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Vernon McPhee Trust that you and many others would have laughed at my reply
Al Heywood
Liberals in Canada will do whatever it takes to retain power, even when they lose elections.
David Amos
@Al Heywood The proof is before you
Tim Salter
So the liberals lost the election, does it mean the Trudeau liberals should take notice? LOL
The Trudeau liberals took notice when the CBC pointed out to them that Trudeau had a 32% approval rating after only 3 years in office, while Harper had a 34% approval rating after 10 years in office, Dam right they are noticing the electoral losses are piling up.
The Trudeau liberals took notice when the CBC pointed out to them that Trudeau had a 32% approval rating after only 3 years in office, while Harper had a 34% approval rating after 10 years in office, Dam right they are noticing the electoral losses are piling up.
David Amos
@Tim Salter "Dam right they are noticing the electoral losses are piling up."
YUP
YUP
Chris Johnson
How Canadians are reading it:
Conservatives win the most seats in two straight elections (yet CBC
keeps posting pictures of the Liberal leader).
David Allan
@Chris Johnson
That's how ignorant Canadians are reading it.
Informed Canadians are simply watching our Constitutional democracy at work.
That's how ignorant Canadians are reading it.
Informed Canadians are simply watching our Constitutional democracy at work.
@David Allan "That's how ignorant Canadians are reading it."
Give it up Methinks everybody has your number now N'esy Pas?
Give it up Methinks everybody has your number now N'esy Pas?
Rachael Saunders
Perhaps, Canadians are
stunned by what has happened to Canada in the three short years that
Trudeau has been PM. Once proud Canadians are ashamed by Trudeau and
his many cringe-worthy moments on the world stage.
Vernon McPhee
@Rachael Saunders I am pretty
sure most NBers can tell the difference between federal and provincial
elections unlike not a few posters on here.
David Amos
@Vernon McPhee Methinks most posters do not know that New Brunswick has no constitution whatsoever N'esy Pas?
Bob Graves
RECAP: The liberals lost the
election,21 to 22 Conservatives won. The amount of votes means nothing
its the seat count that wins elections. Since either party at this time
has a minority government the liberals who are the incumbent government
have first try at forming a government. If they cannot win the
confidence of the legislature they have to step down and the
Conservatives have a chance if they are not successful and cannot win
the legislature over then a election is called.
David Allan
@Michael Murphy
"Seat count means the same as popular vote, next to nothing"
Unless one party wins a clear majority of seats.
"Seat count means the same as popular vote, next to nothing"
Unless one party wins a clear majority of seats.
David Allan
@Vernon McPhee
"It's all about the winning individual seats in legislature in our case."
Apparently not.
Case in point, the story you're commenting on.
"It's all about the winning individual seats in legislature in our case."
Apparently not.
Case in point, the story you're commenting on.
David Amos
@David Allan Duhhh??? Seat count is everything particularly within minority mandates.
Konstantin Tiiesto
Trudeau's brand of globalist ideological progressiveness is dead across Canada.
David Amos
@Konstantin Tiiesto YUP
Cyrus Manz
!!!!....."How Ottawa is reading New Brunswick's wild election result".....!!!!
For one thing Trudeau liberals should stop believing their own polls as concocted by the CBC.
When Ontario stripped their Liberal party off their official Party status back n June, Trudeau liberls should have seen the writing on the wall but thy did not
Now NB falls and next month Quebec will also kick their liberals to the curb.
There is so umuch that a party can milk the taxpyers with IDENTITY POLiTICING and the liberals have overplayed that hand for far too long.
For one thing Trudeau liberals should stop believing their own polls as concocted by the CBC.
When Ontario stripped their Liberal party off their official Party status back n June, Trudeau liberls should have seen the writing on the wall but thy did not
Now NB falls and next month Quebec will also kick their liberals to the curb.
There is so umuch that a party can milk the taxpyers with IDENTITY POLiTICING and the liberals have overplayed that hand for far too long.
David Amos
@Cyrus Manz "For one thing Trudeau liberals should stop believing their own polls as concocted by the CBC."
I kinda enjoy it when they eat crow or throw a new spin on it the following day
I kinda enjoy it when they eat crow or throw a new spin on it the following day
Jane Beagle
one thing is clear. a
significant number of canadians tired very quickly of sunny ways and
elite globalists that accidentally fall into lead roles.
David Allan
@Henry McNeil
Martin balanced the budget and created a structural surplus.
That you consider this to be damage equal to Harper's spending of that surplus on pork and dismantling the structural surplus is amusing.
Martin balanced the budget and created a structural surplus.
That you consider this to be damage equal to Harper's spending of that surplus on pork and dismantling the structural surplus is amusing.
Neil Turv
@Henry McNeil
The "All (party I don't support) crowd" is essentially the same, it doesn't matter if they are saying all Liberals are bad or all Conservatives are bad.
An individual can personally dislike someone, or have a different idea of how to help Canada than any particular party, but if someone can actually keep a straight face and accuse any PM of trying to ruin the country you can bet they just don't have much confidence in their own views.
You can't compare Harper to Trudeau because they governed during very different times. What you can do is cherry pick one liners, or highlight single incidents and try and portray it as fact.
That's why you see one particular quote from Scheer, or one Tweet from Trudeau, or childish selfies and socks or closet references.
That's why i say there is no "side" with this mentality, the anti cons and the anti liberals have more in common with one another than moderate supporters of either party. Their statements sound exactly the same, just change a few names around.
The "All (party I don't support) crowd" is essentially the same, it doesn't matter if they are saying all Liberals are bad or all Conservatives are bad.
An individual can personally dislike someone, or have a different idea of how to help Canada than any particular party, but if someone can actually keep a straight face and accuse any PM of trying to ruin the country you can bet they just don't have much confidence in their own views.
You can't compare Harper to Trudeau because they governed during very different times. What you can do is cherry pick one liners, or highlight single incidents and try and portray it as fact.
That's why you see one particular quote from Scheer, or one Tweet from Trudeau, or childish selfies and socks or closet references.
That's why i say there is no "side" with this mentality, the anti cons and the anti liberals have more in common with one another than moderate supporters of either party. Their statements sound exactly the same, just change a few names around.
David Amos
@Neil Turv Trust that you and I could argue all night
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks a Higgs mandate could last quite sometime if the Greens and PANB allow it N'esy Pas?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
#TrudeauMustGo #nbpoli #cdnpoli #TrumpKnew #muellerinvestigation
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-government-1.4837420
Brian Gallant gets permission from lieutenant-governor to continue governing N.B.
PC Leader Blaine Higgs will speak with reporters in Saint John suburb of Quispamsis at 2:30 p.m. AT
· CBC News · Posted: Sep 25, 2018 11:52 AM AT
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Joan MacDonald
Aww yes, the limousine Liberals. They feel the need to govern even when it's obvious they are not wanted.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Joan MacDonald Methinks the
liberals want peoplekind to never forget that they claim to be "Canada's
Natural Governing Party" N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/checkup/what-s-the-future-look-like-under-the-new-liberal-government-1.3285114
"Mr. Trudeau's victory spells the end of the Liberal Party's decade in the political wilderness, and perhaps even its return as Canada's 'natural governing party.' "
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/checkup/what-s-the-future-look-like-under-the-new-liberal-government-1.3285114
"Mr. Trudeau's victory spells the end of the Liberal Party's decade in the political wilderness, and perhaps even its return as Canada's 'natural governing party.' "
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David Allan
David Allan
@John Nelson
"Our Constitution was created by Pierre Trudeau. No further comment required."
This aspect of our Constitution has been in place since 1867. PET did not change it.
Check who signed the 1982 update. Mostly Conservatives.
Facts matter.
"Our Constitution was created by Pierre Trudeau. No further comment required."
This aspect of our Constitution has been in place since 1867. PET did not change it.
Check who signed the 1982 update. Mostly Conservatives.
Facts matter.
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David Amos
David Amos
@David Allan Has Quebec signed on yet?
John Nelson
The party with fewer seats is asked to form the government? Gotta love Canadian democracy. Or whatever it is.
David Allan
@fred smith
"Harper's first election win was minority and he was given first shot at forming a government. "
Because the governing party didn't even come close so they conceded.
It was in all the news.
"Harper's first election win was minority and he was given first shot at forming a government. "
Because the governing party didn't even come close so they conceded.
It was in all the news.
David Amos
@David Allan "It was in all the news."
Where do you get your news other than Encyclopedia Dramatica?
Where do you get your news other than Encyclopedia Dramatica?
@David Amos
This is the guy who yesterday asked me 'whats wrong with being a communist'. I didn't wast my time replying, but should have said 66 million reasons in USSR alone. Not to mention China and Cambodia.
This is the guy who yesterday asked me 'whats wrong with being a communist'. I didn't wast my time replying, but should have said 66 million reasons in USSR alone. Not to mention China and Cambodia.
@fred smith I did no such thing
Terry Smith
@John Nelson I'm not a
Liberal supporter but if they happen to be in power at the time of the
election I believe they have the first right to try to form govt. The
article is lacking a lot of info regarding this, typical CBC.
David Amos
@Terry Smith I agree
John Kimble
Politicians will do anything to stay in power, liberals seem to pander to anyone to do so
David Amos
@John Kimble I agree
Roman Botiuk
Can you imagine the protests - perhaps violent protests - if the Conservatives formed government after losing the election ?
David Amos
@Roman Botiuk YUP
James Smith
Bets the current government does not make to the new year?
David Amos
@James Smith I would not bet against you
Jason Lafitte
hey look, another liberal back room deal, anything to be in power, they would sell their children if it meant being in power.
Graham McCormack
@Jason Lafitte It's not a back room deal, it is how the system works. Look it up.
David Amos
@Graham McCormack True
bill chagwich
this liberal government will go to defeat in days, couldn't be better results
Joe Smithson
@bill chagwich
How long you think a one seat minority Conservative gov't will last? LOL
How long you think a one seat minority Conservative gov't will last? LOL
David Amos
@Joe Smithson Methinks a Higgs mandate could last quite sometime if the Greens and PANB allow it.
Jesse Patrick
Maybe the Progressive
Conservatives could adopt some of the People's Aliances platform like
ending corporate welfare and they could have the 25 seats needed for a
majority.
Norman Albert Snr
@David Allan You assume I meant otherwise!!
David Allan
@Norman Albert Snr
Nope.
I clarified the ambiguity of your question.
Nope.
I clarified the ambiguity of your question.
David Amos
@David Allan Nope The only one who misunderstood was you
Maxim Verite
Power hungry Liberals .... they just can't let go, even when they lose.
@Norman Neil
I can’t believe some of this people made through grade 10 when they teach about minority government and how its formed if that’s the case
I can’t believe some of this people made through grade 10 when they teach about minority government and how its formed if that’s the case
David Amos
@Stan Nova Welcome to the Circus
Brian Rose
The LT Gov and Gallant made a mockery of the election. Those who voted against the Liberals must be PO'd
Stan Nova
@Brian Rose
LT is following constitution, simple
LT is following constitution, simple
David Amos
@Stan Nova "LT is following constitution, simple"
YUP
YUP
David Amos
@Stan Nova However its a
Federal Constitution they are following not a provincial one. Methinks
its because we the people of New Brunswick never had a constitution of
our own to uphold N'esy Pas?
Cameron James
Gallant will not win a confidence vote in the legislature.
David Amos
@Cameron James I agree
Maxim Verite
Andrew Farmer
Dale Verigan
Methinks many politicians are familiar with this story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
reginald churchill
kelly sherrard
Mark Deckard
Mark Deckar
Randolph F Whelan
Alain Le Brun
Kelly Nelson
Kelly Nelson
Maxim Verite
What are the odds that Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau is a Liberal?
David Amos
@Maxim Verite In August 2014,
Roy-Vienneau was appointed Lieutenant Governor of New Brunswick by
Governor General of Canada David Lloyd Johnston on the Constitutional
advice of Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper, on the suggestion of
Premier David Alward with support from the opposition.
Andrew Farmer
How is it anywhere in CANADA
that a winning party is not given first dibbs on governing? What kind
of backwards clown show have we become?
David Allan
@Andrew Farmer
When you don't understand the constitution you have two choices.
1 - Understand the constitution.
2 - Commit to your ignorance.
It's clear what choice you've made.
When you don't understand the constitution you have two choices.
1 - Understand the constitution.
2 - Commit to your ignorance.
It's clear what choice you've made.
David Allan
@Johnny Horton
"That 10th grade civic class told me that almost always the party with the lower seat count concedes. Unless you sre in BC,"
The party with the lower seat count did concede the election.
Then they formed a coalition.
In accordance with Constitution, law, and custom.
Some grade schools are better than others. My civics teacher understood we were smart enough to understand the ins and outs of the Constitution. YMMV.
"That 10th grade civic class told me that almost always the party with the lower seat count concedes. Unless you sre in BC,"
The party with the lower seat count did concede the election.
Then they formed a coalition.
In accordance with Constitution, law, and custom.
Some grade schools are better than others. My civics teacher understood we were smart enough to understand the ins and outs of the Constitution. YMMV.
David Allan
@Jay Mann
"How is it anywhere in CANADA that a party can win with fewer votes than another party?"
This isn't even civics, this is arithmetic.
"How is it anywhere in CANADA that a party can win with fewer votes than another party?"
This isn't even civics, this is arithmetic.
David Allan
@Joseph Vacher
"welcome to communist Canada"
The Constitution was signed by more Conservatives than all other ideologies combined.
"welcome to communist Canada"
The Constitution was signed by more Conservatives than all other ideologies combined.
David Amos
@David Allan "In accordance with Constitution, law, and custom."
Whereas you know so much and want to tell it why didn't you run in this election instead of making fun of the fact that I did?
Whereas you know so much and want to tell it why didn't you run in this election instead of making fun of the fact that I did?
David Amos
@David Allan "This isn't even civics, this is arithmetic."
Methinks the tally of all your comments tell me that this is far more than merely arithmetic N'esy Pas/
Methinks the tally of all your comments tell me that this is far more than merely arithmetic N'esy Pas/
Dale Verigan
The party with the most seats should ALWAYS get the first chance of obtaining the confidence of the legislature. Period.
David Allan
@Norman Albert Snr
"A party with less then 51% of Both seats and vote should never be allowed to rule as it lacks the confidence of the majority."
Are you American? Nothing else explains your binary thinking, illustrated by your 51% suggestion.
Here in Canada we have a proper democracy with real plurality.
"A party with less then 51% of Both seats and vote should never be allowed to rule as it lacks the confidence of the majority."
Are you American? Nothing else explains your binary thinking, illustrated by your 51% suggestion.
Here in Canada we have a proper democracy with real plurality.
David Amos
@David Allan "Are you American? Nothing else explains your binary thinking, illustrated by your 51% suggestion."
Methinks many politicians are familiar with this story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
reginald churchill
what kind of bs is this, I have lost all respect for elections
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald churchill; why;
just because you just learned something? The Canadian parliamentary
system hails from England grounded on a totalitarian system that slowly
evolved into one just a little bit more democratic. We still cling to
vestiges of this totalitarian system which is why the PM needs to get
permission from the lieutenant-governor, the representative of the
queen, in order to try to form the government.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps
Methinks that no doubt you believe the French were far more civilized in
resolving issues with their totalitarian system N'esy Pas?
kelly sherrard
People in this province want
change.... they want a different gov't....evidence of this seen with
election results. The Liberals have to go in this province. We haven
had 4 years of the worst governing of this province in decades. ENOUGH
IS ENOUGH! We want calm waters. Good bye Liberals!
Stan Nova
@kelly sherrard
Change is what we voted for clearly, but to some liking and others not, liberals do enjoy the support of the population.
Change is what we voted for clearly, but to some liking and others not, liberals do enjoy the support of the population.
David Amos
@Stan Nova True
Mark Deckard
Gallant should do the right
thing, and hand in his resignation letter. The people of New Brunswick
have spoken and they do not want him as their premier.
Christiana Zimmerman
@Eric Biallas the
conservatives didn't win the right to run the legislature the people
have spoken the conservatives should concede
Mark Deckard
@Christiana Zimmerman
Why should they concede? When they clearly won the election?
Why should they concede? When they clearly won the election?
David Allan
@Mark Deckard
"Gallant should do the right thing, and hand in his resignation letter. "
He won in accordance with Constitution, law, and convention.
Exactly how is "the right thing" to betray the Constitution, law, and convention?
"Gallant should do the right thing, and hand in his resignation letter. "
He won in accordance with Constitution, law, and convention.
Exactly how is "the right thing" to betray the Constitution, law, and convention?
David Allan
@Eric Biallas
"More votes in a particular area? "
Government exists for people, not area.
Across the country, ridings are divided based on population, not area.
Democracy is for people, not dirt.
Representation by Population
Welcome to 1840
"More votes in a particular area? "
Government exists for people, not area.
Across the country, ridings are divided based on population, not area.
Democracy is for people, not dirt.
Representation by Population
Welcome to 1840
David Allan
@Mark Deckard
"Why should they concede? When they clearly won the election?"
Perhaps it's your perception that "they clearly won the election" that's incorrect.
"Why should they concede? When they clearly won the election?"
Perhaps it's your perception that "they clearly won the election" that's incorrect.
Mark Deckard
@David Allan
PC - 22 seats
Lib - 21 seats
Nope. The PC still won.
PC - 22 seats
Lib - 21 seats
Nope. The PC still won.
David Allan
@Mark Deckard
Nope.
Need 25 to win.
Says so in the Constitution.
Welcome to Canada.
Learn how your country works.
Nope.
Need 25 to win.
Says so in the Constitution.
Welcome to Canada.
Learn how your country works.
@David Allan
In NB, you need 25 for a majority. The PC won a minority government with 22 seats. The Liberal did not, as they only had 21. I guess math was not your strong suit in school.
In NB, you need 25 for a majority. The PC won a minority government with 22 seats. The Liberal did not, as they only had 21. I guess math was not your strong suit in school.
David Amos
@David Allan "Welcome to Canada. Learn how your country works."
Methinks you go out of your way to insult people N'esy Pas?
Methinks you go out of your way to insult people N'esy Pas?
Randolph F Whelan
So, I get that 4 Liberal big
wigs lost their seats, English speaking population want nothing to do
with the Liberals, the Conservatives won the most seats and a Liberal
appointed lieutenant-governor disregards what should have been a change
in governance. What a sad stain this is on the Liberals. A complete
sham.
David Amos
@David Allan "That's the only thing that has been disregarded."
At least that is true because I have been studying you closely since you attacked my reputation.
At least that is true because I have been studying you closely since you attacked my reputation.
Alain Le Brun
Seems to me the Lt. Gov. failed in her sworn duty.
David Allan
@Alain Le Brun
Seems you don't know what the LG's sworn duty is.
Seems you don't know what the LG's sworn duty is.
David Allan
@Mark Deckard
"The Lt Gov is just a puppet."
In August 2014, Roy-Vienneau was appointed Lieutenant Governor of New Brunswick by Governor General of Canada David Lloyd Johnston on the Constitutional advice of Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper.
"The Lt Gov is just a puppet."
In August 2014, Roy-Vienneau was appointed Lieutenant Governor of New Brunswick by Governor General of Canada David Lloyd Johnston on the Constitutional advice of Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper.
David Allan
@Alain Le Brun
"With a firm constitutional duty that she appears to have failed or violated. As bad as prorogated parliament by Harper through Michäelle Jean."
Agreed.
Both situations were legal, constitutional, and followed parliamentary convention.
"With a firm constitutional duty that she appears to have failed or violated. As bad as prorogated parliament by Harper through Michäelle Jean."
Agreed.
Both situations were legal, constitutional, and followed parliamentary convention.
David Allan
@Alain Le Brun
"Her constitutional duty was to uphold the decision of voters, not to kowtow to the incumbent."
Nope.
Credible citation required.
"Her constitutional duty was to uphold the decision of voters, not to kowtow to the incumbent."
Nope.
Credible citation required.
Kelly Nelson
I'm no mathematician, but I'm pretty sure 22 is bigger than 21...
Stan Nova
@Kelly Nelson
Math would come into play if we voted in popular vote, but in our type of elections its constitution that prevails
Math would come into play if we voted in popular vote, but in our type of elections its constitution that prevails
David Allan
@Kelly Nelson
Is 38% more than 32%?
How does that 6% translate as a proportion of 49 seats?
It's clear that you know little about democracy in Canada if you think that's the only number that matters.
It's clearly not.
There's even an article explaining it if you would care to scroll up and read before posting.
Is 38% more than 32%?
How does that 6% translate as a proportion of 49 seats?
It's clear that you know little about democracy in Canada if you think that's the only number that matters.
It's clearly not.
There's even an article explaining it if you would care to scroll up and read before posting.
David Allan
@Stan Nova
It's the popular vote that swayed the LG.
It's the popular vote that swayed the LG.
John Price
@David Allan Nope, it's constitutional conventions that swayed the LG - as she should have followed.
@David Allan So the number of seats held by a single party is irrelevant then? This doesn't sound much like democracy to me.
I do realize that the popular vote went a different way, perhaps if it was a flat out tie then the popular vote would count.
I do realize that the popular vote went a different way, perhaps if it was a flat out tie then the popular vote would count.
David Amos
@David Allan It's the popular vote that swayed the LG.
WRONG
WRONG
David Amos
@John Price YUP
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/minority-government-expert-1.4837214
Liberals get first chance to govern divided legislature, expert says
Progressive Conservatives won 22 seats on Monday compared to Liberals' 21, Greens' 3, People's Alliance's 3
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David Amos
I trust that everybody knows why my name was on the ballot in Fundy again. While I did not get many votes as usual l tried my best to speak about the Irving versus SNB lawsuit, the closed Potash mine, dairy farmers versus NAFTA and TPP and most importantly how to get the province out of debt ASAP with the Chamber of Commerce folks and on local TV as well
Methinks many politicians are familiar with this story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
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Syd Doorman
Liberals....there are many names for them but they can not be printed......but disgusting and dishonest can.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Syd Doorman If CBC permits you to
Mario Doucet
Language is still the single biggest problem NB has, this election proves it even after 60 years of forced bilingualism.
Joe Carey
@Mario Doucet Being fooled into thinking that language is the biggest problem is itself one of the biggest problems in NB.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Joe Carey True
Methinks everybody knows public corruption is New Brunswick's biggest problem just like it is everywhere else. That is why so many folks don't bother to vote N'esy Pas?
Methinks everybody knows public corruption is New Brunswick's biggest problem just like it is everywhere else. That is why so many folks don't bother to vote N'esy Pas?
David Allan
@Mario Doucet
"Language is still the single biggest problem NB has, this election proves it even after 60 years of forced bilingualism."
Most countries in the world are multi-lingual.
You're basically saying NBers aren't as smart as people living in sub-Saharan Africa if they can't cope with two languages.
NB insisted on Sec 16. That's why it exists. That's why they're the only province with this specific mention. It was not forced on them. It was demanded by them through the governing party lead by Richard Bennett Hatfield (Progressive Conservative). During Hatfield's long tenure, he became prominent on the national stage, allying with federal Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau during the constitutional negotiations that led to the 1982 patriation of the Canadian constitution and the creation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
"Language is still the single biggest problem NB has, this election proves it even after 60 years of forced bilingualism."
Most countries in the world are multi-lingual.
You're basically saying NBers aren't as smart as people living in sub-Saharan Africa if they can't cope with two languages.
NB insisted on Sec 16. That's why it exists. That's why they're the only province with this specific mention. It was not forced on them. It was demanded by them through the governing party lead by Richard Bennett Hatfield (Progressive Conservative). During Hatfield's long tenure, he became prominent on the national stage, allying with federal Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau during the constitutional negotiations that led to the 1982 patriation of the Canadian constitution and the creation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
David Allan
@Jim Joe Jackson
"It is why it will always be a have-not province."
Show your math.
You clearly don't understand how equalization works.
"It is why it will always be a have-not province."
Show your math.
You clearly don't understand how equalization works.
David Amos
@David Allan "You clearly don't understand how equalization works."
Nor do yo
Nor do yo
David Allan
@David Amos
Equalization compares the provincial GDP/cap with the national average. Provinces below the average get a bump. Provinces above the average get bragging rights. Payments come out of the general coffers of the feds.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
Equalization compares the provincial GDP/cap with the national average. Provinces below the average get a bump. Provinces above the average get bragging rights. Payments come out of the general coffers of the feds.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
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David Amos
@David Allan Methinks you must agree with the troll N'esy Pas?
However thanks for showing my lawsuit against the Crown anyway. Instead of going to the evil Encyclopedia Dramatica website folks can find the lawsuit easier by Googling David Amos Federal Court
However thanks for showing my lawsuit against the Crown anyway. Instead of going to the evil Encyclopedia Dramatica website folks can find the lawsuit easier by Googling David Amos Federal Court
David Amos
@David Allan Methinks many
folks will find it interesting that CBC published a link to the most
egregious website on the planet, Encyclopedia Dramatica then blocked my
reply N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Joe Carey True
Methinks everybody knows public corruption is New Brunswick's biggest problem just like it is everywhere else. That is why so many folks don't bother to vote N'esy Pas?
Methinks everybody knows public corruption is New Brunswick's biggest problem just like it is everywhere else. That is why so many folks don't bother to vote N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@David Allan Methinks I
should say thanks for offering a link to my lawsuit against the Crown.
However Instead of going to the evil Encyclopedia Dramatica website
folks can find the lawsuit easier by Googling David Amos Federal Court
N'esy Pas?
jim mika
Only the liberals would attempt to govern after LOSING an election.
Ryan Tasker
@jim mika
That's where you're mistaken. Nobody wins or loses an election in such a manner. The election doesn't even determine who gets first chance to form government. It's just a battle for seats. Nothing more.
You clearly have zero understanding of our Westminister Parliamentary system... which isn't really your fault. Not many people do.
That's where you're mistaken. Nobody wins or loses an election in such a manner. The election doesn't even determine who gets first chance to form government. It's just a battle for seats. Nothing more.
You clearly have zero understanding of our Westminister Parliamentary system... which isn't really your fault. Not many people do.
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David Amos
@Ryan Tasker Nor do you
Ian Smyth
@David Amos what an insightful and definitely founded comment.
David Amos
@Ian Smyth Merci
David Amos
@Ian Smyth Why try to argue me after the election is history?
David Allan
@Ian Smyth
"what an insightful and definitely founded comment."
He was a candidate in this election!
Too funny.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
"what an insightful and definitely founded comment."
He was a candidate in this election!
Too funny.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
David Allan
@Julien Lemieux
"This is another example of this failing voting system that gives distorted results where the political party who won the popular votes gets fewer seats."
Yep.
FPTP is mathematically proven to be the worst voting system.
"This is another example of this failing voting system that gives distorted results where the political party who won the popular votes gets fewer seats."
Yep.
FPTP is mathematically proven to be the worst voting system.
David Amos
@David Allan "FPTP is mathematically proven to be the worst voting system."
Spoken like true left wingnut
Spoken like true left wingnut
David Amos
@Ian Smyth "what an insightful and definitely founded comment."
If what you claim is true then why did CBC delete my comment after I pointed out the fact that we ran against each other in this election?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-election-wrap-1.4836580
"Progressive Conservative Bruce Northrup has been re-elected for a fourth term, winning by more than 1,900 votes.
Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins was the best showing for the People's Alliance in the Saint John region. Candidate Jim Bedford came second with more than 1,800 votes.
Liberal Ian Smyth placed third, followed by Green Party candidate Fred Harrison, the NDP's Dawna Robertson and independent candidate David Raymond Amos."
If what you claim is true then why did CBC delete my comment after I pointed out the fact that we ran against each other in this election?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-election-wrap-1.4836580
"Progressive Conservative Bruce Northrup has been re-elected for a fourth term, winning by more than 1,900 votes.
Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins was the best showing for the People's Alliance in the Saint John region. Candidate Jim Bedford came second with more than 1,800 votes.
Liberal Ian Smyth placed third, followed by Green Party candidate Fred Harrison, the NDP's Dawna Robertson and independent candidate David Raymond Amos."
David Amos
@David Allan "He was a candidate in this election! Too funny."
Why on earth do you think I am commenting in this article about the election I just ran in? Everybody in New Brunswick knows that was the 7th time my name was on the ballot. Did you not bother to read the lawsuit that you offered the link to within Encyclopedia Dramatica of all places?
Methinks even your hero Trudeau The Younger knows why I ran in Fundy in 2015 for a seat in the 42nd Parliament while arguing the aforementioned lawsuit Perhaps you should review statement 83 N'esy Pas?
David Kane
Gallant shot himself in the foot by saying
He would NOT work with PA in any way , so time to pack up and move on
He would NOT work with PA in any way , so time to pack up and move on
David Amos
@David Kane YUP
Chris Johnson
Did the NB Liberals win a majority? I'm pretty sure Canadians have stomped another Liberal government. CBC is trash.
Joe Carey
@Chris Johnson Your failure to understand the system isn't the CBC's fault.
Michael Murphy
@Jim Moore So you admit most votes don't matter but refuse to admit most seats doesn't always matter?
James Lee
@Chris Johnson Can't wait for another liberal government going down in Quebec!
David Amos
@Joe Carey CBC is part of the system
David Amos
@James Lee Me Too
David Allan
@Jim Moore
" that doesnt matter in our system"
Yes it does.
It doesn't matter regarding the make-up of the legislature.
It certainly matters with regard to what a minority gov't can expect to do.
" that doesnt matter in our system"
Yes it does.
It doesn't matter regarding the make-up of the legislature.
It certainly matters with regard to what a minority gov't can expect to do.
David Amos
@David Allan Methinks the liberal spin doctors have their knickers in quite a knot today N'esy Pas?
Ralph Green
Good riddance to the liberals, trudeau is next.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Ralph Green; Trudeau is safe. Max Bernier will see to it.
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David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks the lady is still very bitter today N'esy Pas?
Shawn James
@David Amos Stop saying N'esy Pas.
David Allan
@David Amos
Did you break your all time record of 0.6% of the vote in your riding?
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
Did you break your all time record of 0.6% of the vote in your riding?
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
David Amos
@Shawn James No
David Sampson
The success of the two fringe
parties actually bode well for the future and for democracy. More
voices at the table is always a good thing.
David Amos
@David Sampson "More voices at the table is always a good thing."
I agree
I agree
Bob Lashram
Well of course the liberals intend to form the next government...they are 'entitled'...
Roy Nicholl
@Bob Lashram
In this instance, that is literally true.
In this instance, that is literally true.
Mandel Rooney
@Bob Lashram
Defintion of "entitled": give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something.
They have the legal right to form the government. Your are using the term as a pejorative, but is actually the correct word.
Defintion of "entitled": give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something.
They have the legal right to form the government. Your are using the term as a pejorative, but is actually the correct word.
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David Amos
@Mandel Rooney Methinks you
are trying to confuse me with your fancy lingo Just like when the greedy
liberal lawyer claimed he was entitled to his entitlements N'esy Pas?
David Allan
@David Amos
If the actual definition of words confuses you, that's your problem.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
If the actual definition of words confuses you, that's your problem.
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Raymond_Amos
David Amos
@David Allan Do all liberals get their news from Encyclopedia Dramatica?
Henri Bianchi
New Brunswick voters would be
well advised to store their lawn signs in a place that is easy to get
to - odds are they will be going back to the polls within a year.
David Amos
@Henri Bianchi I would not bet against you
Scarlett Madison
After the First non confidence vote, the Libs take their rightful place in opposition.
Robert Brannen
@Scarlett Madison
Or, the Lieutenant-Governor dissolves the Legislature and calls an election.
Or, the Lieutenant-Governor dissolves the Legislature and calls an election.
David Amos
@Scarlett Madison YUP
David Amos
@Robert Brannen NOPE
Robert Brannen
@David Amos
You think so? From the canadaguide.com website:
"At any time, any member of the House of Commons can introduce a proposal known as a confidence motion that declares something to the effect of: “be it resolved this House no longer has confidence in the present Government of Canada.” If that motion passes, the House is said to have voted no confidence in the government, and the government must call an emergency parliamentary election, and win it, in order to remain in office."
The leader of government must go to the Lieutenant-Governor, ask her to dissolve the present government, and to call an election.
Search "The Canadian Parliamentary System" on the above website if you have any doubts.
You think so? From the canadaguide.com website:
"At any time, any member of the House of Commons can introduce a proposal known as a confidence motion that declares something to the effect of: “be it resolved this House no longer has confidence in the present Government of Canada.” If that motion passes, the House is said to have voted no confidence in the government, and the government must call an emergency parliamentary election, and win it, in order to remain in office."
The leader of government must go to the Lieutenant-Governor, ask her to dissolve the present government, and to call an election.
Search "The Canadian Parliamentary System" on the above website if you have any doubts.
David Amos
@Robert Brannen The Queen
must allow the Premier to create the next parliament before such a
motion can be introduced. Furthermore if he finds himself in trouble can
ask her prorogue it like Harper did in 2008. Furthermore remember early
2011 when Harper was found in contempt of the House like they falsely
claimed I was as well?
Methinks it should be a small wonder why I sued the Crown while I was running in the election of the 42nd Parliament and your hero Harper was still the Prime Minister. Its kinda strange that Trudeau The Younger and Premier Gallant support Harper's and Bernie Lord's actions against me in 2006 and two years before that as well N'esy Pas?
Dave Peters
The popular vote should have
an effect on who governs. We've been talking about reforming our
electoral system for ever with promises from politicians to be soon
forgotten after being elected. The thing I find most interesting in
this election is how our electoral map now looks in NB. It's like were
in a passive civil war between North & South. This is what is
holding our province back. So unfortunate for us all and we need to
talk about why this is occurring and fix it.
David Amos
@Dave Peters The Charter of Rights in 1982 caused the problem Methinks everybody knows that N'esy Pas?
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-election-day-1.4835463
Liberals and Tories in dead heat, People's Alliance makes history
A 2nd Liberal majority in jeopardy, and smaller parties play major role on election night
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David Amos
Welcome to the Circus
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David Amos
Did I mention that I love the Circus?
David Amos
I truly hope many Maritimers enjoyed this election as much as i did
Michael G. L. Geraldson
If you're happy with the
current party, tell them so with your vote. If you're unhappy, vote for
somebody else. Either way get out there and vote.
David Amos
@Michael G. L. Geraldson I voted for Me, Myself and I for the very first time
john Brown
Vote PC the only way to get things done.
Fred Brewer
@john Brown
"Vote PC the only way to get things done."
Close, but needed one small edit. See below:
Vote PC the only way to make the Empire richer.
"Vote PC the only way to get things done."
Close, but needed one small edit. See below:
Vote PC the only way to make the Empire richer.
David Amos
@john Brown Survey Says?
Sandy Glass
@john Brown
What things pretty vague but that seems to be the conservative game plan commit to nothing.
What things pretty vague but that seems to be the conservative game plan commit to nothing.
@Sandy Glass Liberal lawyers are very guilty of committing to nothing as well. Have a read what I said of Ken Dryden today.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/steven-pinker-and-ken-dryden-where-there-s-a-way-there-s-a-will-1.4574401
I hate to think of how many political lawyers in Canada and the USA I have argued this file with over the years.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/steven-pinker-and-ken-dryden-where-there-s-a-way-there-s-a-will-1.4574401
I hate to think of how many political lawyers in Canada and the USA I have argued this file with over the years.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Victor Cretu
Another Liberal government kicked to the curb.
David Amos
@Victor Cretu The Fat Lady ain't sung yet
Chuck MacDonald
after watching how justin has
ran this country the past 3 yrs its amazing anyone would vote liberal.
Yes forsure ied say we need more doctors asap
David Amos
@Chuck MacDonald This is an election in New Brunswick
Jordan Talbot
Another Liberal govt bites the dust. Nice to see Canada coming to it's senses. Next Quebec, then Ottawa.
David Amos
@Jordan Talbot Gallant has
not admitted defeat and the Lt Governor must allow him to make a stab at
overseeing us again. Trust that I will enjoy the Circus
Richard Dekkar
This bodes badly for Justin
in 2019. He’ll need every scrap in Atlantic Canada to offset his party
being wiped out from Ontario to the Pacific.
Norman Shankland
@Richard Dekkar
He manged to do so 2015. Given that more people voted for the Liberals in NB
indicates that they may do so again next fall.
He manged to do so 2015. Given that more people voted for the Liberals in NB
indicates that they may do so again next fall.
David Amos
@Norman Shankland Dream on
David Amos
@Richard Dekkar YUP
Tony Trowel
Congratulations to the Conservative Party of New Brunswick!
Marc Martin
@Tony Trowel
22 isn't enough one of their member will need to be speaker so it still leaves them 21 lol...This is going to be interesting the Cons will needs vote from both Green and PANB...I predict another election in a year.
22 isn't enough one of their member will need to be speaker so it still leaves them 21 lol...This is going to be interesting the Cons will needs vote from both Green and PANB...I predict another election in a year.
David Amos
@Marc Martin Wrong The Speaker does not have to be a Conservative
Mike Ferrely
We were unfortunate enough to have been transferred to NB for 3 years by my employer, what a miserable 3 years. Despite my wife having an education and years of experience in her field she was unable to find a job in her profession because she doesn't speak French, government cash grabs and fees attached to literally everything, yearly vehicle inspection cash grabs, record out-migration, more deaths than births for the last several years in a row, no industry, no prospects, province teetering on bankruptcy, generational EI and welfare abuse etc etc. We were overjoyed when we got transferred back to Alberta. All that being said, I hope the Conservatives get in down there and sort things out. That province is in danger of becoming insolvent and despite being a disaster otherwise, it is a fairly scenic and quiet place to live.
Joseph Vacher
@Marguerite Deschamps
note: french will never be good enough to meet requirements
note: french will never be good enough to meet requirements
David Amos
@Joseph Vacher Methinks the lady doth protest too much N'esy Pas?
Jason Lafitte
boy the liberals sure hate to lose, then don't even have the most seats and still think the deserve to be in power.
David Amos
@Jason Lafitte Welcome to the Circus
Matt Steele
Quite amusing . Brian Gallant
has no way of forming a govt. as he already said that he would not work
with the PCs or the Peoples Alliance ; yet he still thinks he won .
Whats he going to do , hold his breath and jump up and down until
someone tells him he won . Even with support from the Greens , he still
cannot form govt . . Mr. Gallant needs to grow up , and take a look at
the seat count .
David Amos
@Matt Steele What makes you think he knows how to count?
Mike Ferrely
Liberal arrogance just now on
display in full force. Gallant just said on live TV that he is not
conceding and is acting tomorrow as if he has won the election. The PC's
have the most seats and the liberals think they're still in power.
David Amos
@Mike Ferrely "The PC's have the most seats and the liberals think they're still in power"
Thats because they are
Thats because they are
Linda Taylor
People are starting to wake
up and finally, wanting what is right for them and better gov't. Change
is happening, like Ont and will be in 2019 when trudeau is out. It's
time this country grew up and people quit being so obedient and like
sheep.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Jim Mintz,fortunately, the ultra right is not smart enough to stick together and end up turning against each other.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Cry me a river
Dawn Lee
Vote for the candidate, vote
for the party, vote for the leader, just do make sure to vote. It is a
small and meaningful act to participate in democracy, so don't take it
for granted.
David Amos
@Dawn Lee YUP
Bob Lashram
That's quite a loss for the liberals...Congrats to the NB PCs
David Amos
@Bob Lashram What makes you think Higgs can form a government?
Mick Murcatto
A party that would cut the cost and burden of duality would work.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Natalie Pugh COR = PANB !
Marguerite Deschamps
COR = also a lot of CORservatives, including their leader!
David Amos
@Mick Murcatto YUP
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you appear to be quite upset ce soir N'esy Pas?
Colin Jackson
The Maritimes should all be under one single government.
David Amos
@Colin Jackson NOPE
Andy Davis
Stay smart New Brunswick
Look at the good Ontario elected
Don’t make the same mistake
Look at the good Ontario elected
Don’t make the same mistake
David Kane
@Michael Murphy - funny you
thought it was enough when your failed King achieved 39.5 % …...then
realized under electoral reform he would be back to street performing
David Amos
@David Kane Methinks I know of a Mikey Murphy in Moncton who ain't a happy camper ce soir N'esy Pas?
Daniel McIntyre
And the liberal spin doctors
in Ottawa are busy determining exactly how they can re-frame a
resounding liberal defeat into a pile of lollipops.
David Amos
@Daniel McIntyre Methinks the Fat Lady ain't sung yet N'esy Pas?
Colin Seeley
It’s been a very unhappy and unprosperous past 4 years.
Unless you were in receipt of the Liberal freebies !
Unless you were in receipt of the Liberal freebies !
Matt Steele
@Colin Seeley ....Very true ; and there were lots of folks filling their pockets with govt. cash for the past four years .
David Amos
@Colin Seeley Cry me a river
Dale Verigan
Too much useless baggage called government in this nation.
David Amos
@Dale Verigan Bitter?
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:31:32 -0700
Subject: Inactive Account Re: Fwd: Ask me about Vern Faulkner sometime
To: SRS0=7xzz=MH=gmail.com=motoman
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:31:25 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Ask me about Vern Faulkner sometime
To: "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne"
<greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"Jack.Keir" <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>, markandcaroline
<markandcaroline@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
"blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, krisaustin
<krisaustin@peoplesalliance.ca
BrianThomasMacdonald <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.
<bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>, "bruce.northrup" <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>,
"Alaina.Lockhart" <Alaina.Lockhart@parl.gc.ca>, jmwilson@mta.ca,
alaina@alainalockhart.ca, stephanie.coburn@greenparty.ca
"Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "maxime.bernier"
<maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, "andrew.scheer"
<andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "Hunter.Tootoo"
<Hunter.Tootoo@parl.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
<hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Gilles.Blinn"
<Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
infoacadie@radio-canada.ca, editor@stcroixcourier.ca, "steve.murphy"
<steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>, Newsroom
<Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "David.Akin" <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Parti Vert NB Green Party <info@greenpartynb.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:51:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: What a showing! / Quelle démonstration !
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Dear Green Party
Candidates, Volunteers, and Supporters,
What an election!
And, WOW, what a showing! Three MLAs, more than 11% of the popular vote, and
major inroads all across the province. The final fundraising tally isn’t in
yet, but together we raised tens of thousands of dollars for this campaign, more
than double what we raised last election!
Whether you put up a
sign, knocked on doors, talked to family and friends about policies, wrote a
cheque, shared information on social media, or ran as a candidate – thank YOU!
The success of the campaign across the province is because of your efforts.
I know there are some
disappointed Green teams this morning, but just because you didn’t win your
riding doesn’t mean your amazing efforts weren’t noticed and appreciated. In
many ridings, the old parties are getting nervous about the growing support for
Green candidates. Over and over during the last few weeks I have been impressed
by stories from all across our beautiful province of campaign teams working
harder than we ever could have dreamed. Everything you did for this campaign helped up the ante
and raise the bar for the next election.
One thing is certain:
We are building a movement. A movement that is because of you, and FOR you and
your children and their children. A movement I’m very proud to be a part
of.
Here’s to
2022!
Raissa Marks, Chair
Green Party of New Brunswick 2018 Election
Strategy Committee
Carmen Budilean,
Executive Director of the Green Party of New Brunswick
Vern Faulkner,
President of the Green Party of New Brunswick
Chers canditats,
bénévoles et partisans du parti Vert,
Quelle élection! Et,
WOW, quelle démonstration ! Trois députés, plus que 11 % du vote et des
améliorations majeurs à travers la province. Le décompte final de la collecte
de fonds n’est pas encore connu, mais nous avons recueilli des dizaines de
milliers de dollars pour cette campagne, plus que double de ce que nous avons
recueilli lors de la dernière élection !
Que vous ayez mis une
pancarte, frappé aux portes, parlé des politiques à votre famille et à vos amis,
fait un chèque, partagé de l'information sur les médias sociaux ou présenté
votre candidature - merci à VOUS ! Le succès de la campagne à l'échelle de la
province est attribuable à vos efforts.
Je sais qu'il y a des
équipes vertes déçues ce matin, mais ce n'est pas parce que vous n'avez pas
gagné votre circonscription que vos efforts extraordinaires n'ont pas été
remarqués et appréciés. Dans de nombreuses circonscriptions, les anciens partis
s'inquiètent de l'appui croissant des candidats verts. Au cours des dernières
semaines, j'ai été impressionné à maintes reprises par les récits de nos belles
équipes de campagne qui ont travaillé plus fort que nous n'aurions jamais pu
l'imaginer à travers toute la province. Vous avez vraiment mis le paquet durant
les dernière semaines et tout ce que vous avez fait a placé la barre très haut
pour les prochaines élections.
Une chose est
certaine : Nous construisons un mouvement. Un mouvement qui est à cause de
vous, et POUR vous et vos enfants et leurs enfants. Un mouvement dont je suis
très fière de faire partie.
À 2022 !
Raissa Marks,
Présidente du Comité de la stratégie
électorale 2018 du Parti Vert du Nouveau-Brunswick
Carmen Budilean,
Directrice executive du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick
Vern Faulkner,
Président du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick
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Sunday, 14 May 2017
RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Here is something for your friends
Chucky Leblanc and Caroline Lubbe-Darcy to write about before May 24th
Nesy Pas David Coon?
http://
Saturday, 13 May 2017
Leader of the People's Alliance of New Brunswick Kris Austin and
Blogger debate issues!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
Published on May 13, 2017
Posted by Charles Leblanc at 5:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
The People's Alliance of New Brunswick annual meeting is visited by Blogger!!
Charles Leblanc
Published on May 13, 2017
I presume we all know who sent Chucky to checkout PANB's big meeting
N'esy Pas?
Caroline Lubbedarcy
May 7 at 1:16pm •
Who are the guest speakers lined up for Sat. pm?
Geraldine Barton
Vern Faulkner , Willy Scholten and Dr Dharm Singh
May 8 at 11:43am
Caroline Lubbedarcy
Geraldine Barton what are the topics?
May 8 at 11:47am
Geraldine Barton
Vern. Right to information and transparent. Willy double tax and Dr
Singh from the NB medical society
May 8 at 11:50am
Caroline Lubbedarcy
Great thanks!
May 8 at 11:54am
Caroline Lubbedarcy
Great topics! Is this listed somewhere on-line? I would like to post
about the AGM and speakers on New Brunswick First-Political Dialogue
May 8 at 11:56am
Geraldine Barton
It will be released this afternoon. Check the website periodically. Be
nice to meet you on the weekend.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:34:10 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Michael Comeau Federal Court File No T-1557-15
Please see attached file for you to review before May 24th
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
assured that your email will be reviewed.
If this is a media request, please forward your email to
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Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné.
Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Dalton, Craig (SD/DS)" Craig.Dalton@gnb.ca
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:34:10 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Michael Comeau Federal Court File No
T-1557-15 Please see attached file for you to review before May 24th
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
I have recently assumed new responsibilities and I am no longer
serving as Deputy Minister of Social Development.
Please note that Kim Embleton who is currently Assistant Deputy
Minister of Corporate Services, assumes the role of Acting Deputy
Minister for the department. She can be reached at
kim.embleton@gnb.ca .
Thank you
******************************
J'ai récemment assumé de nouvelles responsabilités et je ne suis plus
en fonction en tant que sous-ministre du Développement social.
Veuillez noter que Kim Embleton, la sous-ministre adjointe de la
Division des services ministériels, assumera les fonctions de
sous-ministre par intérim. Elle peut être rejointe à
kim.embleton@gnb.ca .
Merci
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Joly, Mélanie (PCH)" hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:35:26 +0000
Subject: Accusé de réception / Acknowledge Receipt
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Mélanie Joly, ministre du Patrimoine canadien.
La ministre est toujours heureuse de prendre connaissance des
commentaires de Canadiens sur des questions d'importance pour eux.
Votre courriel sera lu avec soin.
Si votre courriel porte sur une demande de rencontre ou une invitation
à une activité particulière, nous tenons à vous assurer que votre
demande a été notée et qu'elle recevra toute l'attention voulue.
**********************
Thank you for writing to the Honourable Mélanie Joly, Minister of
Canadian Heritage.
The Minister is always pleased to hear the comments of Canadians on
subjects of importance to them. Your email will be read with care.
If your email relates to a meeting request or an invitation to a
specific event, please be assured that your request has been noted and
will be given every consideration.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 14:34:06 -0400
Subject: Attn Michael Comeau Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Please
see attached file for you to review before May 24th
To: michael.comeau@gnb.ca,denis.
Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca,
premier@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca,
david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, andre@jafaust.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca, andrew.baumberg@fct-cf.gc.ca,
marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca,
hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
Cc: CRAIG.DALTON@gnb.ca, johanne.bray@gnb.ca
Now that you have the top Justice job in NB it is you I will argue
soemday in several courts Correct?
If you wish to recall you and spoke personally 11 elven very long
years ago and i have sent you many emails since then that you have
ignore. If you deleted them in aeffort to play dumb well you should
know that you or anyone else can Google your name and mine to review
several of my emails to you published on the Internet over the years
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
Premier Brian Gallant makes changes to senior civil service staff
Number of deputy ministers is now 18, down 36 per cent from 2014.
CBC News Posted: May 13, 2017 1:56 PM AT
The Liberal government made some changes to the senior ranks of the
provincial civil service Friday, shuffling responsibilities between
deputy ministers.
Premier Brian Gallant says jobs, education and health care remain
priorities for our government.
"These changes will bring a renewed focus to these areas and enable us
to continue to work hard to get things done for New Brunswickers," the
premier said.
Changes include:
Eric Beaulieu, currently deputy clerk of the Executive Council
Office and assistant deputy minister of Intergovernmental Affairs,
will become deputy minister of Social Development and president of
the Economic and Social Inclusion Corporation on May 23.
Beaulieu replaces Craig Dalton, who has taken a position with the
provincial government in P.E.I.
Hélène Bouchard will succeed Beaulieu as assistant deputy minister
of intergovernmental affairs.
Patricia Brown-MacKenzie will replace Beaulieu as deputy clerk of
the Executive Council. She holds and will keep numerous positions
including deputy secretary to cabinet, secretary to the Jobs Board,
secretary to the Policy Board and assistant deputy minister
responsible for policy in the Executive Council Office.
Michael Comeau, who is the current assistant deputy minister with
Justice and Public Safety, will become deputy minister of Justice and
Public Safety on June 3. Comeau replaces Johanne Bray, who has taken a
position in her native Ottawa.
Bill Levesque, deputy minister of Intergovernmental Affairs will
take on the additional responsibilities of deputy minister of
Aboriginal Affairs and the government's First Nations representative
effective immediately. He will replace Patrick Francis and Judith
Keating, who are retiring from the civil service.
As a result of the changes, the number of deputy ministers is now 18,
which is a reduction of 36 per cent from September 2014.
Government departments reduced, 'priority units' created
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:34 PM
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
Taxmen
To: jmwilson@mta.ca, alaina@alainalockhart.ca,
stephanie.coburn@greenparty.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
http://james4fundyroyal.
https://alainalockhart.
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:16 PM
Subject: Fwd: Here is my latest complaint about the SEC, Banksters and
Taxmen
To: Saint Croix Courier <editor@stcroixcourier.ca>, Duncan Matheson <
duncan@bissettmatheson.com>, infoacadie@radio-canada.ca
Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
*
https://player.fm/series/
<
https://player.fm/series/
>*
Michelle LeBlanc, Vern Faulkner and Duncan Matheson look at the big
political stories of the week. - See more at:
https://player.fm/series/
https://twitter.com/mleblanc_
Keep up with Duncan
506-457-1627
*Editor:* Vern Faulkner
Phone: (506) 466-3220 ext. 1307; CELL (506) 467-5203
Email: editor@stcroixcourier.ca
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Parti Vert NB Green Party <info@greenpartynb.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:51:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: What a showing! / Quelle démonstration !
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Dear Green Party Candidates, Volunteers, and Supporters,
What an election! And, WOW, what a showing! Three MLAs, more than
11% of the popular vote, and major inroads all across the province.
The final fundraising tally isn’t in yet, but together we raised tens
of thousands of dollars for this campaign, more than double what we
raised last election!
Whether you put up a sign, knocked on doors, talked to family and
friends about policies, wrote a cheque, shared information on social
media, or ran as a candidate – thank YOU! The success of the campaign
across the province is because of your efforts.
I know there are some disappointed Green teams this morning, but just
because you didn’t win your riding doesn’t mean your amazing efforts
weren’t noticed and appreciated. In many ridings, the old parties are
getting nervous about the growing support for Green candidates. Over
and over during the last few weeks I have been impressed by stories
from all across our beautiful province of campaign teams working
harder than we ever could have dreamed. Everything you did for this
campaign helped up the ante and raise the bar for the next election.
One thing is certain: We are building a movement. A movement that is
because of you, and FOR you and your children and their children. A
movement I’m very proud to be a part of.
Here’s to 2022!
Raissa Marks, Chair Green Party of New Brunswick 2018 Election
Strategy Committee
Carmen Budilean, Executive Director of the Green Party of New Brunswick
Vern Faulkner, President of the Green Party of New Brunswick
Chers canditats, bénévoles et partisans du parti Vert,
Quelle élection! Et, WOW, quelle démonstration ! Trois députés, plus
que 11 % du vote et des améliorations majeurs à travers la province.
Le décompte final de la collecte de fonds n’est pas encore connu, mais
nous avons recueilli des dizaines de milliers de dollars pour cette
campagne, plus que double de ce que nous avons recueilli lors de la
dernière élection !
Que vous ayez mis une pancarte, frappé aux portes, parlé des
politiques à votre famille et à vos amis, fait un chèque, partagé de
l'information sur les médias sociaux ou présenté votre candidature -
merci à VOUS ! Le succès de la campagne à l'échelle de la province
est attribuable à vos efforts.
Je sais qu'il y a des équipes vertes déçues ce matin, mais ce n'est
pas parce que vous n'avez pas gagné votre circonscription que vos
efforts extraordinaires n'ont pas été remarqués et appréciés. Dans de
nombreuses circonscriptions, les anciens partis s'inquiètent de
l'appui croissant des candidats verts. Au cours des dernières
semaines, j'ai été impressionné à maintes reprises par les récits de
nos belles équipes de campagne qui ont travaillé plus fort que nous
n'aurions jamais pu l'imaginer à travers toute la province. Vous avez
vraiment mis le paquet durant les dernière semaines et tout ce que
vous avez fait a placé la barre très haut pour les prochaines
élections.
Une chose est certaine : Nous construisons un mouvement. Un mouvement
qui est à cause de vous, et POUR vous et vos enfants et leurs enfants.
Un mouvement dont je suis très fière de faire partie.
À 2022 !
Raissa Marks, Présidente du Comité de la stratégie électorale 2018 du
Parti Vert du Nouveau-Brunswick
Carmen Budilean, Directrice executive du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick
Vern Faulkner, Président du Parti vert du Nouveau-Brunswick
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Sunday, 14 May 2017
RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Here is something for your friends
Chucky Leblanc and Caroline Lubbe-Darcy to write about before May 24th
Nesy Pas David Coon?
http://
Saturday, 13 May 2017
Leader of the People's Alliance of New Brunswick Kris Austin and
Blogger debate issues!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
Published on May 13, 2017
Posted by Charles Leblanc at 5:58 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
The People's Alliance of New Brunswick annual meeting is visited by Blogger!!
Charles Leblanc
Published on May 13, 2017
I presume we all know who sent Chucky to checkout PANB's big meeting
N'esy Pas?
Caroline Lubbedarcy
May 7 at 1:16pm •
Who are the guest speakers lined up for Sat. pm?
Geraldine Barton
Vern Faulkner , Willy Scholten and Dr Dharm Singh
May 8 at 11:43am
Caroline Lubbedarcy
Geraldine Barton what are the topics?
May 8 at 11:47am
Geraldine Barton
Vern. Right to information and transparent. Willy double tax and Dr
Singh from the NB medical society
May 8 at 11:50am
Caroline Lubbedarcy
Great thanks!
May 8 at 11:54am
Caroline Lubbedarcy
Great topics! Is this listed somewhere on-line? I would like to post
about the AGM and speakers on New Brunswick First-Political Dialogue
May 8 at 11:56am
Geraldine Barton
It will be released this afternoon. Check the website periodically. Be
nice to meet you on the weekend.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:34:10 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn Michael Comeau Federal Court File No T-1557-15
Please see attached file for you to review before May 24th
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
assured that your email will be reviewed.
If this is a media request, please forward your email to
media-medias@gnb.ca mailto:media-medias@gnb.ca. Thank you!
******************************
Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné.
Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
media-medias@gnb.ca mailto:media-medias@gnb.ca Merci!
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Dalton, Craig (SD/DS)" Craig.Dalton@gnb.ca
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:34:10 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Michael Comeau Federal Court File No
T-1557-15 Please see attached file for you to review before May 24th
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
I have recently assumed new responsibilities and I am no longer
serving as Deputy Minister of Social Development.
Please note that Kim Embleton who is currently Assistant Deputy
Minister of Corporate Services, assumes the role of Acting Deputy
Minister for the department. She can be reached at
kim.embleton@gnb.ca .
Thank you
******************************
J'ai récemment assumé de nouvelles responsabilités et je ne suis plus
en fonction en tant que sous-ministre du Développement social.
Veuillez noter que Kim Embleton, la sous-ministre adjointe de la
Division des services ministériels, assumera les fonctions de
sous-ministre par intérim. Elle peut être rejointe à
kim.embleton@gnb.ca .
Merci
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Joly, Mélanie (PCH)" hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 18:35:26 +0000
Subject: Accusé de réception / Acknowledge Receipt
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Mélanie Joly, ministre du Patrimoine canadien.
La ministre est toujours heureuse de prendre connaissance des
commentaires de Canadiens sur des questions d'importance pour eux.
Votre courriel sera lu avec soin.
Si votre courriel porte sur une demande de rencontre ou une invitation
à une activité particulière, nous tenons à vous assurer que votre
demande a été notée et qu'elle recevra toute l'attention voulue.
**********************
Thank you for writing to the Honourable Mélanie Joly, Minister of
Canadian Heritage.
The Minister is always pleased to hear the comments of Canadians on
subjects of importance to them. Your email will be read with care.
If your email relates to a meeting request or an invitation to a
specific event, please be assured that your request has been noted and
will be given every consideration.
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 14:34:06 -0400
Subject: Attn Michael Comeau Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Please
see attached file for you to review before May 24th
To: michael.comeau@gnb.ca,denis.
Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, serge.rousselle@gnb.ca,
premier@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca,
david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, andre@jafaust.com, jbosnitch@gmail.com,
Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca, andrew.baumberg@fct-cf.gc.ca,
marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca, Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Gilles.Blinn@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca,
hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca, hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca,
Hon.Dominic.LeBlanc@canada.ca, Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
Cc: CRAIG.DALTON@gnb.ca, johanne.bray@gnb.ca
Now that you have the top Justice job in NB it is you I will argue
soemday in several courts Correct?
If you wish to recall you and spoke personally 11 elven very long
years ago and i have sent you many emails since then that you have
ignore. If you deleted them in aeffort to play dumb well you should
know that you or anyone else can Google your name and mine to review
several of my emails to you published on the Internet over the years
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/
Premier Brian Gallant makes changes to senior civil service staff
Number of deputy ministers is now 18, down 36 per cent from 2014.
CBC News Posted: May 13, 2017 1:56 PM AT
The Liberal government made some changes to the senior ranks of the
provincial civil service Friday, shuffling responsibilities between
deputy ministers.
Premier Brian Gallant says jobs, education and health care remain
priorities for our government.
"These changes will bring a renewed focus to these areas and enable us
to continue to work hard to get things done for New Brunswickers," the
premier said.
Changes include:
Eric Beaulieu, currently deputy clerk of the Executive Council
Office and assistant deputy minister of Intergovernmental Affairs,
will become deputy minister of Social Development and president of
the Economic and Social Inclusion Corporation on May 23.
Beaulieu replaces Craig Dalton, who has taken a position with the
provincial government in P.E.I.
Hélène Bouchard will succeed Beaulieu as assistant deputy minister
of intergovernmental affairs.
Patricia Brown-MacKenzie will replace Beaulieu as deputy clerk of
the Executive Council. She holds and will keep numerous positions
including deputy secretary to cabinet, secretary to the Jobs Board,
secretary to the Policy Board and assistant deputy minister
responsible for policy in the Executive Council Office.
Michael Comeau, who is the current assistant deputy minister with
Justice and Public Safety, will become deputy minister of Justice and
Public Safety on June 3. Comeau replaces Johanne Bray, who has taken a
position in her native Ottawa.
Bill Levesque, deputy minister of Intergovernmental Affairs will
take on the additional responsibilities of deputy minister of
Aboriginal Affairs and the government's First Nations representative
effective immediately. He will replace Patrick Francis and Judith
Keating, who are retiring from the civil service.
As a result of the changes, the number of deputy ministers is now 18,
which is a reduction of 36 per cent from September 2014.
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Progressive Conservative MLAs ready to get to work
PC Leader Blaine Higgs to meet with lieutenant-governor on Thursday
Progressive Conservative candidates who
won Monday's election are waiting for an update from party leader
Blaine Higgs after he meets Thursday morning with the
lieutenant-governor.
But some say it's not stopping them from doing their job.
"I'm good to go," Dorothy Shephard said Wednesday at her constituency office in the riding of Saint John-Lancaster.
"It will be another day or two before I'm proclaimed by Elections NB but I've been notified by the legislature that we can begin working as soon as possible."
Higgs did not agree to be interviewed Wednesday.
Elected
for the third time, Shephard got 3,001 votes, according to unofficial
results posted on the Elections New Brunswick website.
Her nearest competitor, Liberal candidate Kathleen Riley-Karamanos, got 1,727 votes.
"I won by a healthy margin," Shephard said. "It won't be contested."
In the riding of Saint Croix, winning PC candidate Greg Thompson said he's fielding calls from frustrated voters.
"They're puzzled by the whole thing," he said.
Thompson also confirmed Wednesday that he had been contacted by former Liberal MLA Jack Keir.
"Jack called me yesterday morning around 10 o'clock and asked me whether I'd be interested in being Speaker," said Thompson.
"My answer was no, of course."
It may have been tempting. The Speaker's job comes with extra money, similar to a cabinet minister.
In addition to his MLA's annual salary of $84,674, former Speaker Chris Collins earned $52,415 for ministerial and other duties.
That's according to the government's unaudited supplementary employee lists from 2017.
It also lists $31,914 for his Speaker expenses and allowance and $6,574 for a car allowance.
Thompson said he doesn't think any of his fellow caucus members would accept.
"I think they're smart enough to say no," he said.
As a former member of Parliament, Thompson sat through two of the longest-lasting minority governments in Canadian history under Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
He
said the Conservatives didn't make any formal deals with other parties
but instead went bill by bill, with "good legislation" that others could
support.
He thinks the Progressive Conservatives, under Blaine Higgs, could do the same.
"Nobody wants an election," Thompson said. "They're expensive."
"I know the Liberals have enough money in the bank, if you will, to run another election. I think the other parties wouldn't be as well-heeled.
"That will be the glue that holds the whole thing together, if we're given a chance."
But some say it's not stopping them from doing their job.
"I'm good to go," Dorothy Shephard said Wednesday at her constituency office in the riding of Saint John-Lancaster.
"It will be another day or two before I'm proclaimed by Elections NB but I've been notified by the legislature that we can begin working as soon as possible."
Higgs did not agree to be interviewed Wednesday.
Her nearest competitor, Liberal candidate Kathleen Riley-Karamanos, got 1,727 votes.
"I won by a healthy margin," Shephard said. "It won't be contested."
Frustrated voters
In the riding of Saint Croix, winning PC candidate Greg Thompson said he's fielding calls from frustrated voters.
"They're puzzled by the whole thing," he said.
"Jack called me yesterday morning around 10 o'clock and asked me whether I'd be interested in being Speaker," said Thompson.
"My answer was no, of course."
Extra money
It may have been tempting. The Speaker's job comes with extra money, similar to a cabinet minister.
In addition to his MLA's annual salary of $84,674, former Speaker Chris Collins earned $52,415 for ministerial and other duties.
That's according to the government's unaudited supplementary employee lists from 2017.
It also lists $31,914 for his Speaker expenses and allowance and $6,574 for a car allowance.
Thompson said he doesn't think any of his fellow caucus members would accept.
"I think they're smart enough to say no," he said.
Experience with minority government
As a former member of Parliament, Thompson sat through two of the longest-lasting minority governments in Canadian history under Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
"Nobody wants an election," Thompson said. "They're expensive."
"I know the Liberals have enough money in the bank, if you will, to run another election. I think the other parties wouldn't be as well-heeled.
"That will be the glue that holds the whole thing together, if we're given a chance."
Liberals court Greens for governing partnership
Premier has to act quickly to seek the confidence of house, professor says
New Brunswick Liberals have made the first public move to create a formal governing partnership after coming up short of seats in the legislature on election night.
Premier Brian Gallant, standing in front of the Liberal caucus outside the legislative building, announced the party will approach the Green Party in hopes of forming a partnership based on shared "progressive policies."
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After Gallant's announcement, the Green Party said it would not have a comment Wednesday.
Since the two major parties fell short of the required 25 seats for a majority — the PCs won 22 and the Liberals 21, pending recounts — there has been much speculation about whether they would court the six seats evenly split between the Greens and the People's Alliance.
The premier said a Green-Liberal partnership would mean they could "implement the progressive policies we both put forward in this campaign."
"We do feel there are a lot of principles, values and certainly very specific policy measures that match up," he said.
A meeting has not been set.
Greens keeping mum
Earlier in the day, Green Party Leader David Coon refused to discuss his options any detail, saying he and his new MLAs want to look for ways to make the legislature more co-operative to reflect the will of voters.
He told reporters that the three other parties all have positions the Greens could support.
Some PC MLAs won't be comfortable with Alliance cooperation, Gallant says. He names Robert Gauvin in particular.
Both the Liberals and Tories have been approaching opposing MLAs to talk about changing sides or taking the Speaker's post, which would leave one party down a vote.
Quick action needed
Gallant must call a session of the legislature very soon if he wants the Liberals to form the legitimate government, says Donald Savoie, a professor who specializes in public administration.
Gallant can't wait until sometime before Christmas, as he told reporters on Tuesday, before the legislature sits, said Donald Savoie, who holds the Canada Research Chair in public administration and governance at the University of Moncton.
"It will only be a legitimate government after the assembly gives it a vote of confidence, so he's got to move quite quickly," Savoie said, suggesting Gallant and his Liberals were like a hockey team keeping possession of the puck while the clocked ticked down.
"He cannot rag the puck on this one."
Even if [Gallant] had only won five seats, he has that right to meet the assembly and ask for confidence.- Donald Savoie ,Savoie urged the premier to call an assembly in no more than a week or two, saying there should be "a sense of urgency."
Until then, the government is being run the same way it was run during the election campaign — and the Liberals are still in power.
Later on Wednesday, Gallant told reporters he would call an assembly in November "at the very latest."
He said the Liberals would prefer to act sooner, but the party is in the midst of exploring potential governing partners.
Permission to govern
Gallant has said he's received permission from Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy-Vienneau to try to govern and win the confidence of the legislature.
Higgs, however, has said he was told by the lieutenant-governor's office that Gallant hadn't, in fact, received permission. The PC leader suggested the issue can't even be decided until after likely recounts Oct. 5 in several close races.
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"More discussions need to take place, and we await his decision," Richardson said, adding that would be the only comment.
Not always like hockey
But, meanwhile, people are still wondering who holds the best cards: Gallant, who is still premier, according to the Westminster system of government, and also won a greater share of the vote, or Higgs, who won the most seats and is referring to himself as premier-elect?
Savoie suggested New Brunswickers are comparing the contest to a sport.
"I think New Brunswickers look at this like they would a hockey game," he said. "Montreal Canadiens got four goals, Toronto got three … and Montreal Canadiens wins."
But although the party with the most seats usually dictates who forms government, Savoie said the sitting premier has a constitutional right to seek a vote of confidence from the legislature, even if he wins fewer seats.
Don't toy with democracy
"New Brunswickers don't elect provincial government, we elect members to the assembly. In turn they decide who should form government.
"Even if he [Gallant] had only won five seats, he has that right to meet the assembly and ask for confidence."
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"I think we need to respect the will of New Brunswickers," he said. "That's what democracy is all about. We can't play fast and loose with democracy."
Nova Scotia experience
Former Nova Scotia Premier Rodney MacDonald called New Brunswick's election a reminder of when he governed a minority PC government from 2006 to 2009.
At the time, the PCs held 23 seats, the NDP had 20 and the Liberals 9.
MacDonald managed to steer the minority government for three years. Then his government lost a confidence vote, which led to an election his party lost to the NDP under Darrell Dexter.
"I've always been of the belief that the party with the most seats should have the first opportunity to assume power," he said.
'The people are never wrong'
MacDonald said keeping a minority government is not a simple task, and it was often a struggle to get legislation passed.
"If you will, you will need a dance partner," he said.
The PCs never formed a coalition with another party, but there was a partnership with the Liberals with respect to support for budgets.
"The Green or the People's Alliance Party, they're going to need to play a role in this, and so I would expect that to happen," MacDonald said.
He said party leaders and MLAs have a responsibility to make sure government works for the people of New Brunswick.
"The people are never wrong," he said. "The people decided what they want to see."
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How Ottawa is reading New Brunswick's wild election result
Does the split result reflect momentum for Conservatives, or something else entirely?
The election results out of New
Brunswick don't offer much in the way of clarity. The party that got the
most votes failed to win the most seats. No party won a majority.
And the leaders of both the provincial Liberal and Conservative parties — separated by a single seat — are claiming the right to first crack at forming a government.
As it stands now, the Conservatives hold 22 seats, the Liberals 21. The Green Party and the new People's Alliance each won three. That means those smaller parties will play a pivotal role in deciding whether the province remains Liberal red or turns Tory blue.
Up in Ottawa, federal politicians are paying attention. Party strategists are analyzing the results for clues to how voters in Atlantic Canada might be leaning, and which issues might spill over into the next federal election a year from now.
Start with the Conservatives. MPs on the Hill were quick to jump on the promise by New Brunswick Tory Leader Blaine Higgs that he would join other conservative-leaning premiers in opposing the Trudeau government's national price on carbon.
"We see this as proof that New Brunswickers stand with Saskatchewan, Ontario and Manitoba and would fight against the prime minister's carbon tax," deputy Conservative leader Lisa Raitt told the Commons on Tuesday as her colleagues cheered.
"This election is evidence that the people of New Brunswick will not be bystanders. They used their voice and chose to fight back against an unfair tax."
Surprising
no one, the reaction from the Liberals was more subdued. They've
already seen Liberals swept out of power in Ontario. B.C.'s Christy
Clark, an ally on pipelines and the need for a price on carbon, is also
gone. Quebec's Liberal government could be next, with polls showing
Premier Philippe Couillard faces an uphill battle to stay in office.
If New Brunswick Liberal Leader Brian Gallant is unable to form a government in New Brunswick, the Trudeau government's brand of cooperative federalism will be a much tougher sell.
That may explain why the federal minister responsible for New Brunswick is conceding nothing while Gallant tries to make a deal with the Greens to stay in power.
"Every
vote counts," said Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc.
"We'll see what happens when the legislature reconvenes."
Either way, there's a visible crack in the Liberal fortress in Atlantic Canada.
The federal Liberals hold all 32 seats in the region. Each of the four provinces has had a Liberal government since Justin Trudeau became prime minister.
That may be about to change, even though Gallant says he's going to carry on governing for now.
"The red wall in Atlantic Canada has been breached," said David McLaughlin, a former deputy minister in New Brunswick and chief of staff to former Conservative premier Bernard Lord.
McLaughlin said he doesn't believe climate change was the deciding issue for voters in New Brunswick — but he's certain the results there indicate voters want something more tangible than what the Trudeau government is offering.
"People are voting for lower taxes, economic security. We saw that in Ontario with Doug Ford. And now we are seeing it in New Brunswick."
Liberal strategist Greg MacEachern cautions that Monday's results may only be the continuation of a pattern of one-term governments in the province. But he agrees there's a message there for the Trudeau Liberals.
"They need to convince Canadians that they are better off today than three years ago. They want to see the new infrastructure and more jobs in their community. They've done the aspirational. Now it's time to get stuff done."
There's always a risk of reading too much into a provincial election's implications for federal parties. But the outcome in New Brunswick, convoluted as it is, does offer a glimpse into what voters are thinking.
The victory by three Green candidates on Monday is a good example. The party is now represented in four provinces — British Columbia, Ontario and P.E.I. are the others — and federal party leader Elizabeth May said the results in New Brunswick suggest the party's appeal extends beyond B.C., where she has her seat.
"Greens elected anywhere help Greens get elected everywhere," she said. "It tells Green voters they are not alone."
The
news is not at all positive for New Democrats. Despite a strong showing
in the Ontario provincial election, where the party captured 33 per cent
of the vote and now serves as the Official Opposition, the NDP was shut
out in New Brunswick, winning only 5 per cent of ballots cast.
That's less than half the votes received by the Green Party.
MacEachern said that tells him the federal Liberals shouldn't assume that disaffected NDP voters in next year's federal election will automatically come to them. He said Conservatives need to take the same view.
The New Brunswick voters who marked their ballots for the People's Alliance — a party that opposes official duality and corporate handouts — may lean more toward the policies being promoted at the federal level by Maxime Bernier than those offered by Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer. The People's Alliance is in favour of things like ending duality for school busing, loosening bilingual requirements for paramedics, and eliminating the office of the commissioner of official languages.
After Monday, the people of New Brunswick weren't at all clear about which party ended up on top. Federal leaders in Ottawa may be just as confused.
And the leaders of both the provincial Liberal and Conservative parties — separated by a single seat — are claiming the right to first crack at forming a government.
As it stands now, the Conservatives hold 22 seats, the Liberals 21. The Green Party and the new People's Alliance each won three. That means those smaller parties will play a pivotal role in deciding whether the province remains Liberal red or turns Tory blue.
Up in Ottawa, federal politicians are paying attention. Party strategists are analyzing the results for clues to how voters in Atlantic Canada might be leaning, and which issues might spill over into the next federal election a year from now.
Momentum, or stalemate?
Start with the Conservatives. MPs on the Hill were quick to jump on the promise by New Brunswick Tory Leader Blaine Higgs that he would join other conservative-leaning premiers in opposing the Trudeau government's national price on carbon.
"We see this as proof that New Brunswickers stand with Saskatchewan, Ontario and Manitoba and would fight against the prime minister's carbon tax," deputy Conservative leader Lisa Raitt told the Commons on Tuesday as her colleagues cheered.
"This election is evidence that the people of New Brunswick will not be bystanders. They used their voice and chose to fight back against an unfair tax."
If New Brunswick Liberal Leader Brian Gallant is unable to form a government in New Brunswick, the Trudeau government's brand of cooperative federalism will be a much tougher sell.
That may explain why the federal minister responsible for New Brunswick is conceding nothing while Gallant tries to make a deal with the Greens to stay in power.
Either way, there's a visible crack in the Liberal fortress in Atlantic Canada.
The federal Liberals hold all 32 seats in the region. Each of the four provinces has had a Liberal government since Justin Trudeau became prime minister.
That may be about to change, even though Gallant says he's going to carry on governing for now.
"The red wall in Atlantic Canada has been breached," said David McLaughlin, a former deputy minister in New Brunswick and chief of staff to former Conservative premier Bernard Lord.
'Time to get stuff done'
McLaughlin said he doesn't believe climate change was the deciding issue for voters in New Brunswick — but he's certain the results there indicate voters want something more tangible than what the Trudeau government is offering.
"People are voting for lower taxes, economic security. We saw that in Ontario with Doug Ford. And now we are seeing it in New Brunswick."
Liberal strategist Greg MacEachern cautions that Monday's results may only be the continuation of a pattern of one-term governments in the province. But he agrees there's a message there for the Trudeau Liberals.
"They need to convince Canadians that they are better off today than three years ago. They want to see the new infrastructure and more jobs in their community. They've done the aspirational. Now it's time to get stuff done."
There's always a risk of reading too much into a provincial election's implications for federal parties. But the outcome in New Brunswick, convoluted as it is, does offer a glimpse into what voters are thinking.
Big news for small parties?
The victory by three Green candidates on Monday is a good example. The party is now represented in four provinces — British Columbia, Ontario and P.E.I. are the others — and federal party leader Elizabeth May said the results in New Brunswick suggest the party's appeal extends beyond B.C., where she has her seat.
"Greens elected anywhere help Greens get elected everywhere," she said. "It tells Green voters they are not alone."
That's less than half the votes received by the Green Party.
MacEachern said that tells him the federal Liberals shouldn't assume that disaffected NDP voters in next year's federal election will automatically come to them. He said Conservatives need to take the same view.
The New Brunswick voters who marked their ballots for the People's Alliance — a party that opposes official duality and corporate handouts — may lean more toward the policies being promoted at the federal level by Maxime Bernier than those offered by Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer. The People's Alliance is in favour of things like ending duality for school busing, loosening bilingual requirements for paramedics, and eliminating the office of the commissioner of official languages.
After Monday, the people of New Brunswick weren't at all clear about which party ended up on top. Federal leaders in Ottawa may be just as confused.
Brian Gallant gets permission from lieutenant-governor to continue governing N.B.
PC Leader Blaine Higgs will speak with reporters in Saint John suburb of Quispamsis at 2:30 p.m. AT
New Brunswick's lieutenant-governor on Tuesday gave Premier Brian Gallant permission to continue governing the province while the Liberals try to win the confidence of the legislature with fewer seats than his main opponent.
Gallant met with Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau the morning after the results of the provincial election suggested the Progressive Conservatives had eked out a minority government — 22 seats to the Liberals' 21 — in a legislature requiring 25 for a majority.
Two third parties each won three seats.
Liberal leader Brian Gallant speaks to reporters outside Government House, before heading inside to ask the Lieutenant Governor to allow him to continue governing the province.
"I am still the premier, and we are still the government," Gallant told reporters after the meeting. "But … we have heard the message loud and clear from New Brunswickers last night. There's some uncertainty at the moment, and I recognize that."
Before the end of the year, Gallant will have to call the legislature, choose a Speaker, present a throne speech and then hold the standard two-week debate on whether the legislature supports that speech.
Gallant said he expects the New Brunswick legislature will sit before Christmas, and if the Liberals lose the confidence of the house, the government will resign.
The Liberals find themselves in a difficult spot despite taking a larger piece of the popular vote in the province's 39th general election. With all polls reporting, the Liberals won 37.8 per cent of the votes compared with the PC share of 31.9 per cent.
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Gallant
said the Liberals would continue to stick to their "progressive"
principles while trying to work with other parties to get things done in
the legislature.
Voters made it clear none of the five party platforms was "exactly what they wanted," he said, but they sent a strong message they want things to change.
"They did not clearly define who they wanted to lead that change. That is clear. But we did get the plurality of votes."
Gallant seemed optimistic he could win the co-operation of the Green Party, led by David Coon.
They disagree about some issues, but Liberals "share Green Party values" on others, including the environment, women and official bilingualism, Gallant said.
The first test
The choice of a Speaker will itself be fraught, because if Gallant chooses a Liberal, he'll be down a vote in the house.
At the end of the throne speech debate, there will be a vote — the first test of whether Gallant can win the confidence of the legislature.
If he loses that vote, the lieutenant-governor could then ask PC Leader Blaine Higgs to form a government rather than trigger a new election.
"If we lose the confidence of the legislature, there will be no hesitation for me to allow another party or parties to form government or for there to be a general election, which I don't think anybody wants." Gallant said.
Higgs will speak with reporters at 2:30 p.m. AT in the Saint John suburb of Quispamsis.
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Gallant has the right to try to govern because his government — the cabinet, or executive — remains in office until it resigns or is dismissed by the lieutenant-governor.
The province's last minority government happened in 1920, when the United Farmers party held the balance of power.
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Liberals get first chance to govern divided legislature, expert says
Progressive Conservatives won 22 seats on Monday compared to Liberals' 21, Greens' 3, People's Alliance's 3
What happens now?
It's been almost a century since New Brunswickers elected a minority government, so we're all a little rusty on our British parliamentary conventions.
But Liberal Leader Brian Gallant knew what he was doing when he declared Monday night — even when the Progressive Conservatives were ahead by one seat — that he would attempt to continue governing.
"The current premier always [retains] the right to meet the legislature regardless of the electoral outcome," said Philippe Lagassé, an expert on the British parliamentary system at Carleton University in Ottawa.
With his Liberals one seat behind the PCs in the count, and with both parties short of a majority, Gallant told supporters in Grande-Digue he would meet Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau to discuss an early convening of the new legislature.
"I will discuss with her my plans to do everything we can do to work collaboratively with the other parties," he said, acknowledging that voters clearly wanted other parties to play a role in the legislature.
At that point, the PCs were leading in 22 seats while Gallant's Liberals led in 21, exactly where the final count ended up. The Green Party and the People's Alliance won three seats each.
It takes 25 seats to win a majority government in the 49-seat legislature.
Gallant
has the right to attempt that because his government — the cabinet, or
executive — remains in office until it resigns or is dismissed by the
lieutenant-governor.
"From a strictly legal point
of view, the existing premier has the right to meet the legislature
regardless of the result, simply because he or she is is the premier," Lagassé said."That's it."
Higgs: 'I accept this mandate'
But Lagassé also said the public doesn't understand that technicality and assumes the party with the most seats wins automatically.
"Even though it's not convention that it's the party with the most seats [gets] to form government, I think it's still fair to say there's an expectation, particularly if the margins are wide enough in terms of public perception," he said.
That's a perception PC Leader Blaine Higgs was pushing on Monday night.
"I accept this mandate," he said, joking that, "I guess Brian Gallant and I will both be lined up at the lieutenant-governor's office in the morning."
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Later, he added: "I'm treating this like an election victory because that's what it is right now."
He told CBC News he didn't accept that a party with fewer seats can even try to stay in office.
Convention would give Gallant a chance to govern
If Roy-Vienneau follows convention, though, she must let Gallant make the first attempt to govern.
That will mean calling the legislature, choosing a Speaker, presenting a speech from the throne, then holding the standard two-week debate on whether the legislature supports that speech.
The choice of a Speaker will itself be fraught, because if a Liberal is chosen, Gallant will be down a vote at the outset.
At the end of the two-week throne speech debate, there will be a vote — the first test of whether Gallant can win the confidence of the House.
"There must be no hiatus in government, no long breaks of delays between the defeat and resignation of one government and the swearing-in of another," former lieutenant-governor George Stanley said in 1992.
Then it would fall to the Progressive Conservatives to try to govern without a majority — by presenting its own throne speech and hoping that the other parties in the legislature will vote for it, or at least not vote against it.
Tories have 2 options in minority situation
The PCs would have two options.
They could try to forge a formal deal that would see one or both of the smaller parties prop up the Tories by agreeing to support them on confidence and budget votes in exchange for concessions on policies.
Or they could try to draft bills one at a time that would appeal to the other parties enough to win their support, case-by-case.
Ted Flemming, re-elected in Rothesay, pointed out that Higgs, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin, and Green Leader David Coon share some views on fiscal prudence.
But Coon ruled out being part of any deal that includes the Alliance, saying there's "no way I can imagine being involved in any arrangement" with a party that would take away language rights or refuse to act on climate change.
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Austin was sounding more willing to deal.
"We're willing to compromise in certain areas to make government work," he said.
Whatever happens, a Higgs PC government might not last four years.
The longer such a government gets from Monday's election, the more likely — if it loses the confidence of the House — that the lieutenant-governor would break the impasse by dissolving the legislature for a new election.
"We're willing to compromise in certain areas to make government work," he said.
Whatever happens, a Higgs PC government might not last four years.
The longer such a government gets from Monday's election, the more likely — if it loses the confidence of the House — that the lieutenant-governor would break the impasse by dissolving the legislature for a new election.
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It's a dead heat.
The Progressive Conservatives and the Liberals are tied at 21 seats as the final votes are counted in the 39th provincial general election
But Monday will a night to remember for New Brunswick's smaller parties.
CBC News projects PCs to win 16 ridings and the party is leading in another five, while the Liberals are sitting at 17 elected and leading in four. The parties are tied despite the Liberals taking a larger piece of the vote.
With 88.3 per cent of polls reporting, the Liberals have received 37.8 per cent of the votes compared with the PC share of 32.3 per cent.
Liberal Leader Brian Gallant won his home riding of Shediac Bay-Dieppe, while Tory Leader Blaine Higgs won in Quispamsis.
The People's Alliance made history party leader Kris Austin to captured Fredericton-Grand Lake and Michelle Conroy won Miramichi, home to Liberal minister Bill Fraser. The party is leading in Southwest Miramichi-Bay Du Vin and Fredericton-York.
In 2014, Coon became the first Green MLA elected in New Brunswick.
"The people of Fredericton South voted for hope, not fear. They voted for kindness. They voted for change, not the status quo," he said during his victory speech in downtown Fredericton.
NDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie, sitting third in Saint John Harbour, conceded in front of a room of supporters. The party received five per cent of the vote.
"Tonight, people have decided to send others to the legislature," she said.
Three Liberal-held ridings are projected to flip, including Fundy-The-Isles-Saint John West., where Tory candidate Andrea Anderson-Mason beat cabinet minister and longtime MLA Rick Doucet.
The party is also trailing in another two ridings it won in 2014.
Another single-term government?
The Gallant Liberals are seeking another four years in power, while the Progressive Conservatives hope to take back the legislative assembly and extend the recent string of single-term governments.
But a trio of smaller parties — the People's Alliance, the Green Party and the NDP — could play an "enormous" role in determining the outcome, said CBC poll analyst Eric Grénier. A third of voters could throw their support behind parties besides the Liberals or Tories.
The Liberals are aiming to be the first government to win a second term since the Bernard Lord Tories in 2003.
When the legislature dissolved, there were 24 Liberals, 21 Progressive Conservatives, one Green, one independent and two vacancies.
Voter turnout
Elections New Brunswick is hoping for a better voter turnout after the historic low of 64.7 per cent in 2014. And so far, the turnout has been positive, according to chief electoral officer Kim Poffenroth.
As of 2 p.m. Monday, more than 177,000 ballots had been cast — higher than normal at that point on election day, she said.
The figure is in part fuelled by a larger turnout in advance voting. More than 87,000 voted early this year compared to 67,317 last election.
Poffenroth said voting had gone smoothly so far Monday, with just one of the more than 470 polling stations opening late. The Le Goulet station in Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou riding will remain open for an extra 20 minutes.
However, at least three ridings reported issues with tabulation machines. Elections New Brunswick said the issues in Hampton, Saint John Harbour and Fredericton North have been resolved.
Liberals, Tories trade jabs
The Liberals chose a pro-spending campaign in the face of concern from economists and the public to improve the province's finances. The party promised heavy spending on infrastructure, health care, nursing homes and education, while also pledging to freeze power rates.
If Gallant wasn't touting his record or making a spending pledge, he was attacking Higgs. The Liberals routinely targeted the PC leader's record as finance minister as well as his connections with big business and warned the electorate of cuts to public services.
Higgs stood by his record and even said — in rather dramatic fashion — the Liberals approached him about taking a job in their government following the 2014 election. Gallant denied the claim.
Stabilizing provincial finances and boosting the economy were the pillars of Tory messaging. The party promised to balance the budget two years into their mandate without making cuts to education and health care.
Higgs also campaigned against the "job-killing" carbon tax.
A two-party province no longer
New Brunswick has been a two-party province for, well, forever. Only twice in the past 100 years has a third party held more than one seat in a legislature.
However, a pair of upstart parties in their third election seem poised to play a major role Monday night. The People's Alliance and the Green Party were polling at unprecedented levels leading up to election day.
Feeling the smaller party pressure, both Gallant and Higgs have cautioned against vote splitting.
Coon made history in the 2014 election, becoming the first Green MLA elected in the province by winning Fredericton South. Now the party wants to build from Coon's growing profile and name recognition after four years in office.
The People's Alliance leader was defeated in Fredericton-Grand Lake by 26 votes in the last election, but Austin has returned with a groundswell of support behind him as the party seeks not only its first seat but multiple seats in the legislative assembly.
The Alliance has gained a fervent following in the past eight years, culminating in its largest field of candidates (30) this year. However, some of its policies, particularly on language issues, have spurred controversy and alienated voters.
The NDP, once firmly positioned as the third-party alternative, fell to fifth place in polls taken during the campaign.
NDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie, who is running in Saint John Harbour, steered the party away from the centre and back to its leftist roots in hopes of capturing its first seat in 15 years.
Gallant is running in Shediac Bay-Dieppe, while Higgs is running in Quispamsis.
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Methinks anyone who thinks he can
predict the outcome tonight is as wacko as your buddy Chucky Leblanc and the
mindless Mr Faust N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am-gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight.html
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gauvin, Serge (SNB)" <Serge.Gauvin@snb.ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:11:27 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks anyone who thinks he can predict the outcome tonight is as
wacko as your buddy Chucky Leblanc and the mindless Mr Faust N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
I am out of the office. I will be back on Tuesday morning, September
25 Please contact Patrick Windle at
patrick.windle@snb.ca
>
Je suis absent du bureau. Je serai de retour au bureau mardi matin,
le 25 septembre. Veuillez contacter Patrick Windle à
patrick.windle@snb.ca
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 11:11:16 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Methinks anyone who thinks he can predict the outcome tonight is as wacko
as your buddy Chucky Leblanc and the mindless Mr Faust N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?
To: votemarywilson@gmail.com, media-medias@gnb.ca,
"Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, ddale <ddale@thestar.ca>,
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"Chuck.Thompson <Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>, "dean.buzza" <dean.buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
"maxime.bernier"
<maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>,
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"andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>,
correspondence@ustr.eop.gov,
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Katie.Robertson.KentN@gmail. com,
MarcelDoiron <MarcelDoiron@rocketmail.com>,
claudetteturner405@gmail.com, MRichard@lawsociety-barreau. nb.ca,
kevhache@nb.sympatico.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> ,
David.Eidt@gnb.ca
http://davidraymondamos3. blogspot.com/2018/09/i-am- gonna-enjoy-circus-tonight. html
Monday, 24 September 2018
I am gonna enjoy the Circus tonight
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rlighthizer@ustr.eop.gov, jrvanoord@gmail.com, gdaley@nbnet.nb.ca,
bwwoodslane@gmail.com, dykfarm@nbnet.nb.ca, dejongfons@gmail.com,
kayepeter10@gmail.com, deniscyr10@rogers.com, oig <oig@sec.gov>, llo@nb.aibn.com, serge.gauvin@snb.ca, patrick.windle@snb.ca, Erin.Hardy@snb.ca, john.mcnair@snb.ca, claude.poirier@snb.ca, Michel.Carrier@gnb.ca, Hugues.Beaulieu@gnb.ca,
Katie.Robertson.KentN@gmail.
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
http://davidraymondamos3.
Monday, 24 September 2018
I am gonna enjoy the Circus tonight
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From: Elizabeth.May@parl.gc.ca
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:11:22 +0000
Subject: Thank you for contacting the Office of Elizabeth May, O.C., M.P
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for contacting me. This response is to assure you that your
message has been received. I welcome and appreciate receiving comments
and questions from constituents.
I receive a much larger volume of correspondence (postal and email)
than the average MP. All emails are reviewed on a regular basis,
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help me serve you better, please ensure that your email includes your
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Thank you once again for contacting me.
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Member of Parliament
Saanich - Gulf Islands
Leader of the Green Party of Canada
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confirme que votre message a été reçu. Les questions et les
commentaires des électeurs sont toujours les bienvenus.
Je reçois une correspondance (postale et électronique) beaucoup plus
abondante que le député type. Tous les messages électroniques sont lus
régulièrement, mais, en raison de l'abondance des courriels reçus à
mon bureau, il se peut que je ne sois pas en mesure de répondre
personnellement à chacun d'entre eux.
Mes électeurs de Saanich-Gulf Islands passent en premier. Si vous êtes
un électeur, veuillez écrire à
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Je vous remercie encore d'avoir communiqué avec moi.
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Députée à la Chambre des communes
Saanich-Gulf Islands
Chef du Parti vert du Canada
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:51:31 -0400
Subject: Methinks anyone who thinks he can predict the outcome tonight is as wacko
as your buddy Chucky Leblanc and the mindless Mr Faust N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?
To: premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"David.Akin" <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>, davidcoon <davidcoon@greenpartynb.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, dcardy <dcardy@gmail.com>, "Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>,
"Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
krisaustin <krisaustin@peoplesalliance.ca>, Gerald Bourque <kisspartyofnb@gmail.com>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "jp.lewis" <jp.lewis@unb.ca>,
ddesserud <ddesserud@upei.ca>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>,
Mike Therien <therien.mike@brunswicknews.
"Steven.MacKinnon" <Steven.MacKinnon@parl.gc.ca>,
"Stephen.Horsman" <Stephen.Horsman@gnb.ca>,
"William.Amos" <William.Amos@parl.gc.ca>,
"Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc. ca>,
mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>,
"Liliana.Longo" <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca> ,
"Nathalie.Drouin" <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca >,
"Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
BrianThomasMacdonald <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail. com>,
"Brian.kenny" <Brian.kenny@gnb.ca>, jlrisdon@gmail.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com> ,
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>,
markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>,
COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>
"Liliana.Longo" <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
"Nathalie.Drouin" <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
"Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
BrianThomasMacdonald <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.
"Brian.kenny" <Brian.kenny@gnb.ca>, jlrisdon@gmail.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>,
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1 thing I do know for certain is that I am gonna enjoy the Circus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
Blogger and Andre Faust gives their predictions on the 2018 New
Brunswick Provincial Election!
Charles Leblanc
Published on Sep 23, 2018
On 9/20/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> 2018 New Brunswick Provincial Election Saint John Region Candidate Messages
> Rogers tv
> Published on Sep 20, 2018
---------- Original message ----------
From: Mary Wilson <votemarywilson@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 15:08:42 -0300
Subject: Re: Clearly Chris Collins and CBC know that other Independent
candidates are in quite a battle as well N'esy Pas Premier Gallant?
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
Thank you for sharing this information, It has been passed on to Mary.
The Mary Wilson Campaign Team
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:25 PM David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
> Friday, 7 September 2018
>
> CBC fails again to talk of the battles of other Independent
> politicians in New Brunswick
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> A battle is brewing in Moncton Centre, with Chris Collins an independent
>
> Former Liberal MLA is confident he can regain seat after being bounced
> from caucus
> Kate Letterick · CBC News · Posted: Sep 07, 2018 6:00 AM AT
>
>
> "This is all going to come out in public when the lawsuit is proceeded
> with and all of the documents have to become public, so until then, I
> shouldn't be held back from doing the job that I love, and that's
> serving the people of my riding."
>
> Collins said voters are concerned about a number of issues, including
> government spending and language."
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> 'Incestuous politics': a look at New Brunswick's die-hard red riding
>
> Shediac-Beaubassin-Cap-Pelé is considered one of the safest Liberal
> ridings in New Brunswick, if not Canada
> Gabrielle Fahmy · CBC News · Posted: Sep 06, 2018 7:00 AM AT
>
> "We've been voting Liberal since day one. I think we should be
> rewarded," said Gallant.
>
> Marcel Doiron, the Conservative candidate and a Cap-Pelé native, is
> campaigning hard in the village. He doesn't miss an opportunity to
> take a jab at the Liberals.
>
> "They take everybody for granted," said Doiron. "We can't live like
> this anymore."
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 11:03:40 +0000
> Subject: RE: Why would the Bankster Frank McKenna ask Gerry Lowe a
> former union rep to run in the Harbour that is the heart of the Irving
> Empire?
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
> assured that your email will be reviewed.
>
> If this is a media request, please forward your email to
> media-medias@gnb.ca
>
> ******************************
>
> Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
> Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné.
>
> Si ceci est une demande médiatique, prière de la transmettre à
> media-medias@gnb.ca
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 07:03:36 -0400
> Subject: Why would the Bankster Frank McKenna ask Gerry Lowe a former
> union rep to run in the Harbour that is the heart of the Irving
> Empire?
> To: "Frank.McKenna" <Frank.McKenna@td.com>, "darrow.macintyre"
> <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
> ddale <ddale@thestar.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
> sugarhil@nb.sympatico.ca, "Bill.Oliver" <Bill.Oliver@gnb.ca>,
> "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "terry.seguin"
> <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, rjspeer555@gmail.com, "Ross.Wetmore"
> <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, shoreviewholsteins@gmail.com, "hance.colburne"
> <hance.colburne@cbc.ca>, BrianThomasMacdonald
> <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.
> andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, washington
> field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Robert.E.Lighthizer"
> <Robert.E.Lighthizer@ustr.eop.
> <Chrystia.Freeland@parl.gc.ca>
> Cc: "Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Catherine.Tait"
> <Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>, "sylvie.gadoury"
> <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.
> <Chuck.Thompson@cbc.ca>, "dean.buzza" <dean.buzza@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "maxime.bernier" <maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, "elizabeth.may"
> <elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>, David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> "andrew.scheer" <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "David.Akin"
> <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>, correspondence@ustr.eop.gov,
> bjanovitz@ustr.eop.gov, jgreer@ustr.eop.gov, svaughn@ustr.eop.gov,
> rlighthizer@ustr.eop.gov, jrvanoord@gmail.com, gdaley@nbnet.nb.ca,
> bwwoodslane@gmail.com, dykfarm@nbnet.nb.ca, dejongfons@gmail.com,
> kayepeter10@gmail.com, deniscyr10@rogers.com
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> If the election in New Brunswick ain't important why would CBC just
> block my comment about Trump, Wllbur Ross and I? Why would the
> Bankster Frank McKenna ask Gerry Lowe a former union rep to run in the
> Harbour that is the heart of the Irving Empire?
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> "A city councillor for five years, he played a key role in
> successfully persuading council to ask the province to repeal the
> city's longstanding tax deal with Irving Oil on the Canaport LNG
> terminal.
> He decided to run provincially for the Liberals at the request of
> Brian Gallant and former premier Frank McKenna.
>
> "There are so many things that have to be changed and they all exist
> in Fredericton," Lowe said.
> His major concerns include affordable housing and fair taxation —
> especially greater control for the municipality over taxes and
> assessments and phasing out double taxation."
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 12:02:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: Hey Kyle read real slow
> To: llo@nb.aibn.com, serge.gauvin@snb.ca, patrick.windle@snb.ca,
> Erin.Hardy@snb.ca, john.mcnair@snb.ca, claude.poirier@snb.ca,
> Michel.Carrier@gnb.ca, Hugues.Beaulieu@gnb.ca,
> Katie.Robertson.KentN@gmail.
> <MarcelDoiron@rocketmail.com>, claudetteturner405@gmail.com,
> "Gilles.Cote" <Gilles.Cote@gnb.ca>, "dan. bussieres"
> <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>, "chris.collins" <chris.collins@gnb.ca>
> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
> MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
> krisaustin@peoplesalliance.ca
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gauvin, Serge (SNB)" <Serge.Gauvin@snb.ca>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:31:17 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Kyle read real slow
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
>
> I am out of the office. I will be back on Monday morning, September
> 10 Please contact Patrick Windle at
> patrick.windle@snb.ca
>
> Je suis absent du bureau. Je serai de retour au bureau lundi matin,
> le10 septembre. Veuillez contacter Patrick Windle à
> patrick.windle@snb.ca
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Windle, Patrick (SNB)" <Patrick.Windle@snb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:11:54 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Serge Trust that the First Canadian
> Title people, the Fidelity minions and many lawyers will tell you that
> I will figure out what a form 13a is.
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
>
> I am out of the office until Thursday, August 23.
>
> For inquiries regarding the land registry, please contact Serge Gauvin
> at serge.gauvin@snb.ca.
>
> For inquiries regarding the corporate registry, please contact the
> registry at (506) 453-2703 or SNBCorporateAffairs@snb.ca
>
>
> ________________
>
> Soyez avisés que je suis absent du bureau jusqu'à jeudi le 23 août.
>
> Pour les demandes relatives au registre de biens-fonds, veuillez
> contacter Serge Gauvin au serge.gauvin@snb.ca.
>
> Pour les demandes relatives au registre des affaires corporatives,
> veuillez contacter (506) 453-2703 ou SNBCorporateAffairs@snb.ca
>
>
> Patrick Windle
> Director – Corporate Registry | Directeur - Registre corporatif
> Deputy Registrar General of Land Titles | registrateur général adjoint
> des titres de biens-fonds
> Registrar of the Personal Property Registry | Registraire du Réseau
> d’enregistrement des biens personnels
> Registries / Registres
> Service New Brunswick / Service Nouveau-Brunswick
>
> Phone / Téléphone : 506-453-3758
> Fax / Télécopieur : 506-444-3033
> E-mail / Courriel : patrick.windle@snb.ca
>
> http://www.snb.ca/
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Hardy, Erin (SNB)" <Erin.Hardy@snb.ca>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:11:58 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Hey Serge Trust that the First Canadian
> Title people, the Fidelity minions and many lawyers will tell you that
> I will figure out what a form 13a is.
> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I will be out of the office from August 9-24 inclusive. I will reply
> to your email upon my return, however, I will be checking emails
> periodically. Thank you.
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Je serai absent du bureau du 9 au 24 août inclusivement. Je répondrai
> à votre courriel à mon retour, mais, je vérifierai régulièrement les
> courriels. Merci.
>
>
> On 9/7/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:11:48 -0400
> > Subject: Hey Serge Trust that the First Canadian Title people, the
> > Fidelity minions and many lawyers will tell you that I will figure out
> > what a form 13a is.
> > To: serge.gauvin@snb.ca, patrick.windle@snb.ca, "claude.poirier"
> > <claude.poirier@snb.ca>, "john.mcnair" <john.mcnair@snb.ca>,
> > Erin.Hardy@snb.ca, "alan.roy" <alan.roy@snb.ca>
> > Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> > <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
> > MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
> > <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, kevhache@nb.sympatico.ca, "greg.byrne"
> > <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, krisaustin <krisaustin@peoplesalliance.ca
> > "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
> > <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> > Serge Gauvin
> > Registrar General of Land Titles
> > Called to the bar: 1995 (NB)
> > Phone: 506-457-6933
> > Fax: 506-444-3033
> > Email: serge.gauvin@snb.ca
> > Patrick V. Windle
> > Deputy Registrar General of Land Titles
> > Called to the bar: 1997 (NB)
> > Email: patrick.windle@snb.ca
> > Service New Brunswick
> > Land Registry, 985 College Hill Rd.
> > PO Box 1998, Stn. A
> > Fredericton, New Brunswick E3B 5G4
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: "Auto-reply from kevhache@nb.aibn.com" <kevhache@nb.aibn.com>
> > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 18:20:04 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Too Funny I just talked to Claude Landry Elvy Robichaud’s
> > old Chief of Staff He forgot what went down in 2004 and the emails I
> > sent him since
> > To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> > Bonjour
> >
> > Je serais absent du bureau du 6 aout au 22 aout inclusivement. Le
> > bureau sera fermé du 6 au 19 aout inclusivement pour les vacances d
> > ete et sera ouvert a partir du 20 aout. Bonne Vacance a tous
> >
> > Je retournerais votre courriel a mon retour.
> >
> > Kevin J. Hache
> >
> > CABINET KEVIN J. HACHE
> > 8 Boul St-Pierre Ouest
> > C.P. 5662
> > Caraquet NB E1W 1B7
> > 506 727 5150 (telephone)
> > 506 727 6686 (telecopieur)
> > kevhache@nb.sympatico.ca
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Brian Gallant <briangallant10@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 06:01:57 -0700
> > Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: Fwd: I just called Alan Roy again about
> > my right to health care, my missing 1965 Harley, the Yankee Wiretaps
> > tapes in its saddlebag and Federal Court and his assistant played dumb
> > as usual
> > To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
> >
> > (Français à suivre)
> >
> > If your email is pertaining to the Government of New Brunswick, please
> > email me at brian.gallant@gnb.ca
> >
> > If your matter is urgent, please email Greg Byrne at greg.byrne@gnb.ca
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Si votre courriel s'addresse au Gouvernement du Nouveau-Brunswick,
> > svp m'envoyez un courriel à brian.gallant@gnb.ca
> >
> > Pour les urgences, veuillez contacter Greg Byrne à greg.byrne@gnb.ca
> >
> > Merci.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:42:09 -0400
> > Subject: Attn Marc Richard and John McNair I just called AGAIN Say hey
> > to my Brother in Law W. S. Reid CHEDORE and his brother of the law
> > David Lutz QC for me will ya?
> > To: MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
> > "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, Erin.Hardy@snb.ca,
> > David.Eidt@gnb.ca
> > Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Marc Richard <MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
> > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:51:09 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: RE Irving's ridiculous constitutional
> > challenge and Federal Court File no T-1557-15 I wonder if George
> > Cooper and Hélène Beaulieure even know how many times the Irvings and
> > partners of their VERY snobby law firm have offended me over t...
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be out of the office until October 30, 2017. Je serai absent
> > du bureau jusqu'au 30 octobre 2017.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Eidt, David (OAG/CPG)" <David.Eidt@gnb.ca>
> > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 00:33:21 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Mr Lutz howcome your buddy the clerk
> > would not file this motion and properly witnessed affidavit and why
> > did she take all four copies?
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be out of the office until Monday, March 13, 2017. I will have
> > little to no access to email. Please dial 453-2222 for assistance.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Marc Richard <MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:16:46 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
> > Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be out of the office until August 15, 2016. Je serai absent du
> > bureau jusqu'au 15 août 2016.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "McNair, John (SNB)" <John.McNair@snb.ca>
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:04:29 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
> > Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be out of the office August 1 - August 12. I will reply to your
> > email when I return. If you require immediate assistance, please
> > contact Chantal Leger at 663-2510. Thank you.
> >
> > Je serai absent du bureau les 1 aout - 12 aout. Je répondrai à votre
> > courriel à mon retour. Si vous nécessitez de l'assistance
> > immédiatement, veuillez contacter Chantal Leger au 663-2510. Merci.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Hardy, Erin (SNB)" <Erin.Hardy@snb.ca>
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:04:28 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
> > Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > Le francais suit:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am currently out of the office. I will gladly reply to your message
> > upon my return on August 15, 2016. Should you require immediate
> > assitance please contact Celeste Savoie at (506) 471-5290 or by email:
> > Celeste.Savoie@snb.ca.
> >
> > Have a nice day!
> >
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Je suis presentement hors du bureau. Il me fera plaisir de repondre a
> > votre message a mon retour August 15, 2016. Si vous avez besoin d'une
> > assitance immediate, veuillez communiquer avec Celeste Savoie au (506)
> > 471-5290 ou par courriel a: Celeste.Savoie@snb.ca.
> >
> > Bonne journee!
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Marc Richard <MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
> > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 17:43:27 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Oh My My we just talked briefly Correct Ms
> > Beaulieu? It appears to me that the latest President of the NB Law
> > Society thinks non lawyers are not worth talking to
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be out of the office until July 21, 2014. Je serai absent du
> > bureau jusqu'au 21 juillet 2014.
> >
> >
> >
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> >> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> >> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> >> To: coi@gnb.ca
> >> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >>
> >> Good Day Sir
> >>
> >> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> >> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
> >>
> >> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> >> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> >> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> >> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
> >>
> >> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> >> suggested that you study closely.
> >>
> >> This is the docket in Federal Court
> >>
> >>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
> >>
> >> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
> >>
> >> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
> >>
> >> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
> >>
> >> April 3rd, 2017
> >>
> >> https://archive.org/details/
> >>
> >>
> >> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
> >>
> >>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
> >>
> >>
> >> The only hearing thus far
> >>
> >> May 24th, 2017
> >>
> >> https://archive.org/details/
> >>
> >>
> >> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
> >>
> >> Date: 20151223
> >>
> >> Docket: T-1557-15
> >>
> >> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
> >>
> >> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
> >>
> >> BETWEEN:
> >>
> >> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> >>
> >> Plaintiff
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> >>
> >> Defendant
> >>
> >> ORDER
> >>
> >> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> >> December 14, 2015)
> >>
> >> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> >> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> >> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> >> in its entirety.
> >>
> >> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> >> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> >> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> >> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> >> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
> >> he stated:
> >>
> >> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> >> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> >> You are your brother’s keeper.
> >>
> >> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> >> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> >> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> >> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> >> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> >> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> >> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> >> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> >> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> >> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> >> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> >> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> >> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> >> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> >> Police.
> >>
> >> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> >> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> >> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> >> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> >> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> >> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> >> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> >> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> >> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
> >>
> >>
> >> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> >> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
> >> is no order as to costs.
> >>
> >> “B. Richard Bell”
> >> Judge
> >>
> >>
> >> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> >> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> >> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
> >>
> >> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
> >> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
> >> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
> >> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
> >>
> >> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
> >> most
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Original message ----------
> >> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> >> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> >> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> >> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> >> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> >> dudes are way past too late
> >> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >>
> >> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> >> lalanthier@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> >> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
> >>
> >> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> >> lalanthier@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> >> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Merci ,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
> >>
> >>
> >> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> >> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> >> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> >> five years after he began his bragging:
> >>
> >> January 13, 2015
> >> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
> >>
> >> December 8, 2014
> >> Why Canada Stood Tall!
> >>
> >> Friday, October 3, 2014
> >> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> >> Stupid Justin Trudeau
> >>
> >> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> >> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
> >>
> >> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> >> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> >> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> >> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> >> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> >> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> >> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> >> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> >> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> >> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> >> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> >> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> >> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> >> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> >> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> >> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> >> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> >> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> >> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> >> campaign of 2006.
> >>
> >> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> >> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> >> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> >> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
> >>
> >> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> >> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> >> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> >> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> >> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
> >>
> >> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> >> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> >> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> >> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> >> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> >> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> >> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> >> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> >> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
> >>
> >> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> >> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> >> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> >> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> >> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
> >>
> >> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> >> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> >> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> >> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> >> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> >> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> >>
> >> January 30, 2007
> >>
> >> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
> >>
> >> Mr. David Amos
> >>
> >> Dear Mr. Amos:
> >>
> >> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> >> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
> >>
> >> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> >> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> >> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> >> Minister of Health
> >>
> >> CM/cb
> >>
> >>
> >> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> >> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> >> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> >> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> >> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
> >> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> >> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> >> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
> >>
> >> Dear Mr. Amos,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> >> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> >> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
> >>
> >> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> >> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> >> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> >> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> >> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> >> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
> >>
> >> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> >> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> >> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> >> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> >> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
> >>
> >> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> >> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> >> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> >> Traffic Services NCO
> >> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> >> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> >> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> >> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> >> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> >> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> >> tel.: 506-457-7890
> >> fax: 506-444-5224
> >> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
> >>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
> > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
> > Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
> > To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > Mr. Amos,
> > We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
> > Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
> > Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
> > of Nova Scotia. Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
> > against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
> > General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS. Please note that we will
> > not be responding to further emails on this matter.
> >
> > Department of Justice
> >
> > On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> >> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
> >>
> >> http://thedavidamosrant.
> >> ilian.html
> >>
> >>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
> >>>
> >>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
> >>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
> >>>
> >>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
> >>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
> >>> cards?
> >>>
> >>> http://archive.org/details/
> >>> 6
> >>>
> >>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
> >>>
> >>> http://www.archive.org/
> >>>
> >>> http://archive.org/details/
> >>>
> >>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
> >>> Senator Arlen Specter
> >>> United States Senate
> >>> Committee on the Judiciary
> >>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
> >>> Washington, DC 20510
> >>>
> >>> Dear Mr. Specter:
> >>>
> >>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
> >>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
> >>> raised in the attached letter.
> >>>
> >>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
> >>> tapes.
> >>>
> >>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
> >>>
> >>> Very truly yours,
> >>> Barry A. Bachrach
> >>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
> >>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
> >>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> http://davidraymondamos3.
> >
> >
> > Sunday, 19 November 2017
> > Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
> > It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
> > The Supreme Court
> >
> > https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.
> >
> >
> > Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> >
> > Amos v. Canada
> > Court (s) Database
> >
> > Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> > Date
> >
> > 2017-10-30
> > Neutral citation
> >
> > 2017 FCA 213
> > File numbers
> >
> > A-48-16
> > Date: 20171030
> >
> > Docket: A-48-16
> > Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> > CORAM:
> >
> > WEBB J.A.
> > NEAR J.A.
> > GLEASON J.A.
> >
> >
> > BETWEEN:
> > DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> > Respondent on the cross-appeal
> > (and formally Appellant)
> > and
> > HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> > Appellant on the cross-appeal
> > (and formerly Respondent)
> > Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
> > Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
> > REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
> >
> > THE COURT
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: 20171030
> >
> > Docket: A-48-16
> > Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> > CORAM:
> >
> > WEBB J.A.
> > NEAR J.A.
> > GLEASON J.A.
> >
> >
> > BETWEEN:
> > DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> > Respondent on the cross-appeal
> > (and formally Appellant)
> > and
> > HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> > Appellant on the cross-appeal
> > (and formerly Respondent)
> > REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
> >
> > I. Introduction
> >
> > [1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
> > filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
> > against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
> > in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
> > Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
> > properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
> > that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
> > Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
> > (Claim at para. 96).
> >
> > [2] On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
> > motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
> > Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
> > amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
> > disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
> > and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
> > Prothontary’s Order).
> >
> >
> > [3] On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
> > Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
> > Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
> > Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
> > for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
> > 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
> >
> >
> > [4] Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
> > Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
> > Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
> > As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
> > cross-appeal.
> >
> >
> > II. Preliminary Matter
> >
> > [5] Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
> > relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
> > 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
> > the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
> > This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
> > had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
> > Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
> > several judges but did not name those judges.
> >
> > [6] Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
> > identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
> > had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
> > with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
> > Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
> > the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
> > subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
> > c. F-7:
> >
> >
> > 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
> > office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
> > jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
> > Appeal.
> > […]
> >
> > 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
> > d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
> > les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
> > […]
> > 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
> > that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
> > jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
> >
> > 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
> > Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
> > juges de la Cour fédérale.
> >
> >
> > [7] However, these subsections only provide that the
> > judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
> > versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
> > Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
> > section.
> > [8] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide
> that:
> > 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> > — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
> > Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
> > continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
> > for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
> > a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
> >
> > 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
> > fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
> > français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
> > à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
> > Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
> > continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
> > matière civile et pénale.
> > 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> > — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
> > English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
> > additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
> > the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
> > court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
> >
> > 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
> > première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
> > Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
> > maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
> > d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
> > canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
> > compétence en matière civile et pénale.
> >
> >
> > [9] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
> > two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
> > (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
> > Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
> > need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
> > Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
> > to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
> > file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
> > decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
> > that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
> > appeal book.
> >
> >
> > [10] Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
> > March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
> > Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
> > conflict in any matter related to him.
> >
> >
> > [11] On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
> > before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
> > conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
> > Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
> > Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
> > Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
> > Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
> > cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
> > Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
> > will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
> > before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
> > relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
> >
> >
> > [12] During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
> > the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
> > submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
> > conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
> > afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
> > that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
> > view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
> > documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
> > documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
> > judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
> > copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
> > such judge had a conflict.
> >
> >
> > [13] The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
> > that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
> > 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
> > that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
> > had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
> > therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
> > of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
> > personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
> > Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
> > was a member of such firm.
> >
> >
> > [14] During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
> > appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
> > focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
> > Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
> > the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
> > particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
> > lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
> > after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
> > Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
> >
> >
> > [15] The documents that he submitted in relation to the
> > alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
> > Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
> > Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
> > practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
> > Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
> > who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
> > affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
> > that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
> > letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
> > Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
> > Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
> > “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
> > Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
> > possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
> > [16] Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
> > was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
> > Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
> > 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
> > judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
> > apprehension of bias:
> > 60 In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
> > criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
> > Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
> > Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
> > reasonable apprehension of bias:
> > … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
> > reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
> > question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
> > of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
> > viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
> > the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
> > than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
> > unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
> >
> > [17] The issue to be determined is whether an informed
> > person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
> > thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
> > give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
> > previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
> > administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
> > rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
> > Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
> > also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
> > (4th) 193).
> >
> > [18] The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
> > Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
> > Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
> > particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
> > case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
> > involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
> > Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
> > judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
> > lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
> > determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
> > rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
> > 27 Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
> > finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
> > which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
> > as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
> >
> >
> > 28 The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
> > asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
> > the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
> > taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
> > defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
> > judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
> > Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
> > Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
> > there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
> > and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
> >
> >
> > 29 It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
> > inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
> > different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
> > judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
> > of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
> > conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
> > involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
> > in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
> > for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
> > interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
> > statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
> > information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
> > opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
> > His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
> > had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
> > unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
> >
> >
> > 30 That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
> > of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
> > disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
> > two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
> > recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
> > that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
> > that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
> > time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
> > To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
> > the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
> > involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
> > the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
> > circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
> > or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
> > 31 There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
> > Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
> > trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
> > been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
> > his former firm for a considerable period of time.
> >
> >
> > 32 In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
> > realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
> > and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
> > of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
> > in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
> > In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
> > trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
> > his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
> > decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
> > either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
> > client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
> > off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
> > client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
> > earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
> > events from over a decade ago.
> > (emphasis added)
> >
> > [19] Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
> > involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
> > Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
> > clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
> > alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
> > Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
> > Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
> > Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
> > had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
> > was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
> > involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
> > with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
> > sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
> > Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
> > also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
> > Webb hearing this appeal.
> >
> > [20] Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
> > (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
> > reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
> > the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
> > with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
> >
> > [21] In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
> > F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
> > reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
> > lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
> > was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
> > Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
> > Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
> >
> > [22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
> > stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
> > of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
> > He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
> > entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
> > and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
> > to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
> > police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
> > enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
> > conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
> >
> > [23] As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
> > apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
> > to recuse himself.
> >
> > [24] Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
> > experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
> > the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
> > confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
> > Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
> >
> > [25] Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
> > Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
> > that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
> > a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
> > both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
> > Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
> > begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
> > you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
> > was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
> > Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
> > for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
> > not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
> >
> >
> > III. Issue
> >
> > [26] The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
> > Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
> > in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
> > Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
> > legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
> >
> > IV. Analysis
> >
> > A. Standard of Review
> >
> > [27] Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
> > Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
> > be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
> > made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
> > Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
> > 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
> > this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
> > articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
> > [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
> > Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
> > prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
> > case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
> > the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
> > error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
> > law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
> > a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
> > if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
> > determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
> > (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
> >
> > [28] In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
> > assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
> > must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
> > erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
> > interfere.
> >
> >
> > B. Did the Judge err in interfering with the
> > Prothonotary’s Order?
> >
> > [29] The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
> > paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
> > Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
> >
> > 17. Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
> > addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
> > of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
> > in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
> > the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
> > the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
> > or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
> > does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
> > (…)
> >
> >
> > 21. The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
> > provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
> > the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
> > Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
> > determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
> > A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
> > only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
> > best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
> > suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
> > [footnotes omitted].
> >
> >
> > [30] The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
> > on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
> > that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
> > liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
> > who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
> > included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
> > the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
> > paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
> > identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
> > Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
> > para. 27).
> >
> >
> > [31] The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
> > cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
> > identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
> > 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
> >
> >
> > [13] As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
> > 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
> > determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
> > element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
> >
> > a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
> > conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
> >
> > b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
> > conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
> >
> > c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
> > officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
> > public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
> > Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
> > (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
> >
> > [32] The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
> > material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
> > public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
> > Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
> > “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
> >
> > [33] This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
> > in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
> > D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
> >
> > …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
> > assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
> > negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
> > “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
> > upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
> > conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
> > of process…
> >
> > To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
> > requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
> > out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
> > officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
> > office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
> > mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
> > allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
> > a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
> > (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
> >
> > [34] Applying the Housen standard of review to the
> > Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
> > absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
> >
> > [35] The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
> > disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
> > basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
> > ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
> > the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
> > engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
> > conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
> > faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
> > the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
> > these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
> > non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
> > Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
> > the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
> > barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
> > supporting a cause of action.
> >
> > [36] In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
> > allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
> > reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
> > Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
> > Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
> > find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
> > The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
> > amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
> >
> > V. Conclusion
> > [37] For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
> > cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
> > dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
> > November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
> > without leave to amend.
> > "Wyman W. Webb"
> > J.A.
> > "David G. Near"
> > J.A.
> > "Mary J.L. Gleason"
> > J.A.
> >
> >
> >
> > FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
> > NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
> >
> > A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
> > JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
> > DOCKET:
> >
> > A-48-16
> >
> >
> >
> > STYLE OF CAUSE:
> >
> > DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> >
> >
> >
> > PLACE OF HEARING:
> >
> > Fredericton,
> > New Brunswick
> >
> > DATE OF HEARING:
> >
> > May 24, 2017
> >
> > REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
> >
> > WEBB J.A.
> > NEAR J.A.
> > GLEASON J.A.
> >
> > DATED:
> >
> > October 30, 2017
> >
> > APPEARANCES:
> > David Raymond Amos
> >
> >
> > For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
> > (on his own behalf)
> >
> > Jan Jensen
> >
> >
> > For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
> >
> > SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
> > Nathalie G. Drouin
> > Deputy Attorney General of Canada
> >
> > For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/
> >
> > John Williamson - Conservative Nomination Candidate New Brunswick
> Southwest
> > May 17 at 12:48pm ·
> >
> > Great news! John Williamson is running for the federal Conservative
> > nomination in New Brunswick Southwest. He needs your help to secure
> > the riding and defeat the Trudeau Liberals in 2019.
> >
> > Having served as Member of Parliament from 2011-2015, he knows the
> > issues, has proven ability, and can win: John had the highest
> > Conservative vote — 38.6% — of all 32 ridings in Atlantic Canada in
> > 2015. It wasn’t enough to get over the top, but it was a clear signal
> > that his local campaign was strong.
> >
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> >
> > Progressive Conservative MLA calls it quits at provincial level
> > Brian Macdonald won't run again for legislature seat, but might try
> > federal politics
> > CBC News · Posted: May 28, 2018 6:07 PM AT | Last Updated: May 28
> > Brian Macdonald, a Progressive Conservative MLA, has announced he
> > won't run in the Sept. 24 provincial election. (CBC)
> >
> > New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative party is losing one of its
> > highest-profile MLAs just months before the next provincial election.
> >
> > Brian Macdonald says he won't be a candidate this fall and may instead
> > jump into federal politics.
> >
> > Calling the last year "my best year in politics," the two-term MLA
> > said his decision has nothing to do with PC Leader Blaine Higgs, who
> > beat Macdonald for the party leadership in 2016.
> >
> > "It's been a really good year," Macdonald said. "I've had a strong
> > voice in the legislature on issues that are really important to my
> > heart.
> >
> > "I also think it can be a challenge being in provincial politics. It's
> > very small, it's very close, it's very tight, and on a personal basis,
> > I want to move on."
> >
> > Macdonald says he’s considering running for the federal Conservative
> > nomination in New Brunswick Southwest, which includes part of the
> > riding of Fredericton West-Hanwell, where he has been the MLA. (CBC)
> >
> > Macdonald said he's considering running for the federal Conservative
> > nomination in New Brunswick Southwest, a constituency that includes
> > part of Macdonald's provincial riding of Fredericton West-Hanwell.
> >
> > Health critic slams 'gutting' of top doctor's office
> >
> > Blaine Higgs faces internal PC dissent over appointment
> >
> > That decision would pit him against former Conservative MP John
> > Williamson, who announced May 21 he'll also seek the nomination in the
> > riding he represented from 2011 to 2015. Party members in the riding
> > will nominate their candidate June 28.
> >
> > Macdonald said he'll also consider running federally in Fredericton.
> > The former soldier said he's also looking at job opportunities with
> > national organizations that advocate for veterans.
> >
> > "I'm looking for opportunities and considering a lot of options," he
> said.
> >
> > Blaine Higgs wins N.B. PC leadership race on 3rd ballot
> >
> > Tory leadership hopefuls scramble to be 'second choice' of rivals'
> > supporters
> >
> > Macdonald is the fifth candidate from the 2016 provincial PC
> > leadership race to opt against running in this year's election under
> > Higgs.
> >
> > Macdonald said he is confident he would have won his riding again and
> > the Tories will win the election Sept. 24, meaning he'd have a shot of
> > becoming a minister.
> >
> > But he said being a provincial politician "does wear on you and it
> > does make you think about what the other options are. … If I go
> > another four years in provincial politics, it concerns me that my
> > options would be limited after that."
> >
> > The 47-year-old also said the recent death of some friends made him
> > realize he should pursue other opportunities when he can.
> >
> > Macdonald's interest in federal politics has been well-known for
> > years. He was a political assistant to former federal Defence Minister
> > Peter MacKay and sought the federal Conservative nomination for
> > Fredericton for the 2008 election.
> >
> > After failing to win that nomination, he ran provincially in
> > Fredericton-Silverwood in 2010 and was elected. He was re-elected in
> > the newly created riding of Fredericton West-Hanwell in 2014, when he
> > defeated then-NDP leader Dominic Cardy.
> >
> > Macdonald ran for the leadership of the New Brunswick Progressive
> > Conservative Party but lost to Blaine Higgs. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
> >
> > In 2016, Macdonald ran for the PC leadership, placing sixth on the
> > first ballot out of seven candidates.
> >
> > Macdonald said he doesn't think his departure will hurt the provincial
> > party's chances of holding on to Fredericton West-Hanwell.
> >
> > "It's going to be very attractive to a number of high-calibre
> > candidates who are now beginning to come forward," he said.
> >
>
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/steven-pinker-and-ken-dryden-where-there-s-a-way-there-s-a-will-1.4574401
Steven Pinker and Ken Dryden: 'Where there's a way, there's a will'
When NHL legend Ken Dryden was about to publish his book, Game Change, he got in touch with Harvard psychologist and linguist, Steven Pinker, who was about to publish Enlightenment Now. Their common ground: what does it actually take to change someone's mind? Pinker also happens to have grown up in Montreal, and idolized the former Canadiens goaltender. The two talk to Paul Kennedy about the relationship of rhetoric and reason.
**This episode originally aired March 13, 2018.
Ideas
Pulitzer Prize-winning psychologist Steven Pinker on the mysterious formula for social change.
Hall of Fame goaltender Ken Dryden wants to change not just the rules of hockey, but the entire culture of the sport. There are simply too many serious head injuries, and the thinking behind the rules governing the game has lagged behind the realities of how it's actually played. Pulitzer Prize winning psychologist Steven Pinker believes that Enlightenment values have had their stock lowered on both the right and left, and he would like to see them resurrected — values like reason, science, humanism and progress. Too often, truth gets personalized. And we lose sight of the fact that life for most people has improved compared to any other epoch in history. And we owe that improvement, he argues, to the Enlightenment.
Progress in particular almost appears antiquated as an ideal. But both are firm believers in the notion that it is still viable, perhaps more than ever. Whether it's a sport in particular, or a society in general, changes for the better not only can be made; they have been made.
Steven Pinker's first contact with Ken Dryden
Ken and I met, I think [in] 1996, approximately. Ken was doing a series on learning and the brain for Ontario public television. I remember getting a call out of the blue from a filmmaker who called himself Ken Dryden. And [I was] thinking at the time: wow, what a coincidence! He has the same last name as the immortal from the [Montreal] Canadiens. And as the conversation proceeded — it was a very pleasant conversation — and the filmmaker at the other end said that he is well familiar with Boston. And at one point [I thought]: you're Ken Dryden! We had a very pleasant lunch, and Ken recounted all the great memories that he had of coming to Boston every spring, and winning!
Ken Dryden first encountering Steven Pinker
I started reading Steve's books when he was writing about language. And I thought they were just unbelievably interesting, and about something that that — notionally — should not have been interesting… and then I just kept reading him. And then the last the last book of Steve's that I read was the 'The Better Angels of Our Nature'.
And I couldn't believe how — again — interesting and challenging a book it was. And how he took something that was so indisputable, about how violence was really getting worse, and worse, and worse — and everybody knew it was even beyond discussion or debate. And then in the way in which Steve does things, of just relentlessly looking back at what was, as opposed to what we remember.
Ken Dryden on using Steven Pinker in the classroom
I was teaching a course at McGill called "Making the Future". And I wanted to get students to think about the future, not just to learn about the present and the past which they would do in the rest of their academic courses. And Steve's book was one of two that I assigned every year, in part because of how interesting it was about violence, but even more than that.
Here are these students who are 20 years old, 21 years old, and almost every adult in their lives is telling them about how things are worse and worse and worse, and that the world is going to hell in a handbasket. And if they are going to make a future they have to believe that, in fact, a better future is possible.
And so this was the book that really I wanted them to read, to help reinforce in their minds that they had the right to hope and the right to believe that the future that they would live would be better than what was and is.
Steven Pinker on resisting social change
People tend to moralize the status quo, that the there's a way of doing things that allows us all to get along reasonably well. And to challenge that is often seen not only as not particularly moral, but sometimes as immoral. Why are you going to mess up a nice harmonious society? [But] our cars are safer. We put up with seatbelts — that's another example that in the 50s and 60s would have been considered neurotic to to wear a seatbelt while you're driving. Airbags. Drunk driving — another example that was a source of comedy through the 80s. There was a movie called Arthur with Dudley Moore, and one of the funniest scenes was when the protagonist gets drunk and cracks up an expensive sports car. It's almost horrifying to watch that now because we think of drunk driving as something that kills children. And thanks to Mothers Against Drunk Driving, they reframed that practice from an act of comedy to an act of criminality.
Steven Pinker on the nature of progress
I don't think we really understand it. It's one of the great puzzles of social science. They just see these trends that seem to sweep along. But there's no such thing as a trend to make society safer. There are people who invent seatbelts, and there are legislators who pass laws, and there are car-makers who install them. And even though looking back with a bird's eye view, you can pretty much say that something is inevitable. Really, when you say 'inevitable' what you mean is sooner or later someone actually presses the button, someone makes the argument, someone rallies the supporters. Some of it is laying out concrete suggestions as Ken does in 'Game Change'. You can't bring head injuries to zero most likely, but you can reduce them a lot — and to adapt a quote from former President Obama: he would have to tell his staffers [that] 'better' is good. Because they would always say: well, that won't solve the problem… they're still be unemployment. Yes, but if there's less of it, that is progress.
Ken Dryden has been a politician, lawyer, and Hall of Fame goaltender for the Montreal Canadiens. He's also the author of numerous books, including: The Game (1973), Home Game: Hockey and Life in Canada (with Roy MacGregory, 1990), and Becoming Canada (2010). His most recent book is Game Change: The Life and Death of Steve Montador and the Future of Hockey (2017).
Steven Pinker is a Harvard professor of psychology and Pulitzer Prize winning author of books on linguistics, neurocognitive science, and computational theories of mind. He's a prolific author, and among his many books are: The Language Instinct (1994), How the Mind Works (1997), The Blank Slate (2002), The Better Angels of Our Nature (2011) and The Sense of Style (2014). His most recent book is Enlightenment Now:The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress (2018).
**This episode was produced by Greg Kelly.
Comments
Doug Barr
I've known of the famous Ken
Dryden since his goal tending days. I hadn't heard of Steven Pinker, the
"prize winning author", until just recently when I read a review of
"Enlightenment Now" the reviewer entitled, "Waiting for Steven
Pinkerton's Enlightenment". It wasn't complimentary. They're both navel-
gazers.
There has been only one enlightenment. It occurred about 200,000 years ago when 'Eve' asked 'Adam' "Why am I?", the question of meaning that gave birth to humanity. 'Adam' didn't know but instead of ignoring it tried to fill the void and whether or not we are aware, we continue his legacy.
There is no denying in the process of trying to fill the void humanity has acquired an astronomical amount of knowledge that has resulted in massive progress in medicine, science and technology and other microscopic aspects of life. However, we've made no progress toward accepting the fact we can't fill the void and in the same process of trying we have just about destroyed life.
If we have time to make a difference afterwards, the second enlightenment will occur when there is universal understanding we can't fill the void, and quit trying. In the meantime, Capetown SA may be able to put off the day they have no water, until next year. 40 million people who depend on water from the Colorado River are facing their own day 0. I may even see the day those of us on the west coast will burn to death or die of thirst.
Will someone please tell Ken Dryden in a few decades there won't be enough water to make ice rinks. And tell Steven Pinkerton the improvements he sees in our lives notwithstanding, humanity is on a collision course with Nature and not all the seat belts or hockey helmets in the world can save us.
There has been only one enlightenment. It occurred about 200,000 years ago when 'Eve' asked 'Adam' "Why am I?", the question of meaning that gave birth to humanity. 'Adam' didn't know but instead of ignoring it tried to fill the void and whether or not we are aware, we continue his legacy.
There is no denying in the process of trying to fill the void humanity has acquired an astronomical amount of knowledge that has resulted in massive progress in medicine, science and technology and other microscopic aspects of life. However, we've made no progress toward accepting the fact we can't fill the void and in the same process of trying we have just about destroyed life.
If we have time to make a difference afterwards, the second enlightenment will occur when there is universal understanding we can't fill the void, and quit trying. In the meantime, Capetown SA may be able to put off the day they have no water, until next year. 40 million people who depend on water from the Colorado River are facing their own day 0. I may even see the day those of us on the west coast will burn to death or die of thirst.
Will someone please tell Ken Dryden in a few decades there won't be enough water to make ice rinks. And tell Steven Pinkerton the improvements he sees in our lives notwithstanding, humanity is on a collision course with Nature and not all the seat belts or hockey helmets in the world can save us.
David Amos
@Doug Barr Trust that I am well aware of whose legacy I do continue. My forefather was Adam Amos. (He picked his own name)
That said when I heard Ken Dryden talk of Integrity today I saw red as well. I recall talking to Dryden in 2006 after we both ran in two elections while I went in and out of the Yankee jail in Boston. I cursed at another sneaky political lawyer after he had admitted knowing who I was and of reading my emails. Dryden just laughed at me instead attempting to discuss the content of my documentation. Anyone can Google my name and his and still see some traces of my emails to him over 12 years ago still published on the Internet. Here is just one of the files Dryden laughed at.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/northrup-wood-marketing-boards-1.4495159
Woodlot owners might be stronger with 1 board, former minister says
Bruce Northrup points to dairy farmers, who have done well with a single marketing board
Former Natural Resources Minister Bruce
Northrup says woodlot owners might be better off if a single,
province-wide marketing board represented them in dealings with forestry
companies.
Seven marketing boards in different regions of the province now serve private woodlot owners.
To make his case for a single marketing board, Northrup pointed to the model used by New Brunswick dairy farmers who, through their single board, have control over their market sector.
"They have one board and the milk marketing board works really well," he said.
Seven marketing boards in different regions of the province now serve private woodlot owners.
To make his case for a single marketing board, Northrup pointed to the model used by New Brunswick dairy farmers who, through their single board, have control over their market sector.
"They have one board and the milk marketing board works really well," he said.
The wood marketing boards once had exclusive rights to negotiate wood prices on behalf of their members.
We don't see that right now as being a solution to the current problem.- Rick Doucett, SNB marketing boardBut in many cases today, mill owners like J.D. Irving Ltd., are bypassing the boards, requiring individual woodlot owners to negotiate prices one on one with a company or one of its contractors.
JDI started to use this practice on a large scale about eight years ago in the territory of Sussex-based Southern New Brunswick Forest Products Marketing Board.
In 2012, the company stopped buying wood from the SNB entirely, and has since expanded the practice of "direct contracts" to the territories of other marketing boards.
Six of the seven boards were created in the late 1970s and given regulatory powers over private wood sale by acts of the provincial legislature.
The recent industry practices have diminished the boards' effectiveness.
"Should there be seven boards instead of one?" asked Northrup, who was natural resources minister from 2010 to 2013 when David Alward's Progressive Conservatives were in power.
Northrup said he plans to discuss the proposal with woodlot groups in coming months.
John Sabine, a director with the SNB board, said he worries a single, provincial board would lose touch with individual woodlot owners.
"That's something I wouldn't be opposed to looking at," said Sabine. "I don't see personally how that would be a big benefit."
Board sees Crown deals as problem
The single board idea is not a new one, said Rick Doucett, president of the New Brunswick Federation of Woodlot Owners.
"Oh, we've discussed it among ourselves," he said.
"I guess where we don't look at different structures very seriously is because we don't see that right now as being a solution to the current problem."
The problem, according to Doucett, is that marketing boards are being forced to compete with large volumes of wood available from Crown land.
He said there could be one "overall private wood agency" in the future, possibly with regional offices to ensure a broader pool of wood to ensure an adequate supply to ensure woodlot groups can fulfil their contracts with industry.
The head of industry group Forest NB says any structure created by the marketing board system would have to be a win/win for both woodlot owners and industry or it will not work.
"Not knowing what a single marketing board might look like administratively, how it would function, it's difficult to say if that's even a plausible proposal," said Mike Legere.
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michael levesque
hey bruce you forgot to
mention that the milk marketing board does a GOOD JOB OF KEEPING MILK
PRICES THE HIGHEST IN CANADA IN THE POOREST PROVINCE.
Bruce Northrup
@michael levesque we have great milk and great farmers in the province of New Brunswick.
Paul Bourgoin
The Louis Lapierre's forest management plan is what manages Crown Land today. It is destroying what belongs to this and future generations of New Brunswick Citizens, The Department of Natural Resources, The Forest Rangers our eyes in our forest, The Land, the Water, the Fish, all Wildlife populations, the Birds, and most important the access to Crown land. Private Woodlot owners and Marketing boards and Joe Public don't stand a chance facing this Lumber Giant!! There goes our Crown-land Forest, the jobs, New Brunswick's Pristine forest, clear rivers, Leaving only a silent Tree Farm!!
steve waddell
betcha there isn't a person
that can accurately tell you how much wood Irving slashes on crown land
besides Irving. 100 hector clear cuts everywhere, maybe bigger. very
poor management of our crown land
Paul Bourgoin
@steve waddell
There is No habitat management on a Fox in the House Deal!
There is No habitat management on a Fox in the House Deal!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/saint-john-election-wrap-1.4836580
Tory wave sweeps across Saint John region as PCs win 9 seats
All but one Saint John-area riding elects Progressive Conservatives on Monday
The Saint John region has been painted Tory blue, electing Progressive Conservatives in all but one of 10 ridings.
That includes the resounding defeat of long-serving Liberal cabinet minister Rick Doucet, who lost by more than 1,300 votes to Progressive Conservative Andrea Anderson Mason in Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West.
He won Saint John Harbour by 10 votes, edging out retired teacher and Progressive Conservative candidate Barry Ogden. NDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie placed a distant third.
Since the riding was decided by fewer than 25 votes, a judicial recount will be automatic upon request.
That includes the resounding defeat of long-serving Liberal cabinet minister Rick Doucet, who lost by more than 1,300 votes to Progressive Conservative Andrea Anderson Mason in Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West.
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He won Saint John Harbour by 10 votes, edging out retired teacher and Progressive Conservative candidate Barry Ogden. NDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie placed a distant third.
Since the riding was decided by fewer than 25 votes, a judicial recount will be automatic upon request.
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The People's Alliance improved its showing in every riding in the Saint John region where it fielded a candidate.
In Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins, People's Alliance candidate Jim Bedford placed second to Tory incumbent Bruce Northrup.
Portland-Simonds
The NDP's Kim Blue finished third with 449 votes, while Green Party candidate Sheila Croteau was close behind with 435. Independent candidate Artie Watson received 191 votes.
Holder held cabinet posts in the Bernard Lord and David Alward Tory governments.
Saint John East
People's Alliance candidate Matthew Thompson placed third with 1,047 votes.
The NDP's Alex White finished fourth, followed by the Green Party's Lynaya Astephen.
Savoie originally lost his bid for the Saint John East seat in 2014, losing to Simonds High School Principal and Liberal candidate Gary Keating by only nine votes.
But in a surprise turn of events, Keating resigned only 22 days after the election. Savoie easily won the byelection to replace Keating with 44 per cent of the vote.
Saint John Harbour
In 2014, voters elected Liberal MLA Dr. Ed Doherty but only by 71 votes.
It was even more of a nail-biter this time around.
City councillor and Liberal candidate Gerry Lowe won by 10 votes, edging out Barry Ogden, a community activist and retired teacher who ran for the Progressive Conservatives.
Any past loyalty voters had for former NDP Leader Elizabeth Weir must feel quite distant now. Current NDP Leader Jennifer McKenzie finished third.
Green Party candidate Wayne Dryer — who ran for the NDP in 2010, before switching to the Green Party in 2014 — received 721 votes.
People's Alliance candidate Margot Brideau received 393 votes.
The results may be subject to a recount.
Saint John Lancaster
Liberal candidate Kathleen Riley-Karamanos finished with 1,727 votes, followed by People's Alliance candidate Paul Seelye.
The Green Party fielded Doug James and the NDP candidate was Tony Mowery.
Last December, Shephard announced she was taking a leave from the legislature to battle breast cancer.
Earlier this month, she received her final radiation treatment.
"We're almost through this and I am so grateful for the medical professionals who have taken care of me," Shephard wrote in a Facebook post at the time.
Shephard served as minister of healthy and inclusive communities in the David Alward government.
Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West
But it was Doucet who was on the other side of a landslide this time.
Progressive Conservative newcomer Andrea Anderson Mason won with 3,808 votes to Doucet's 2,422.
The People's Alliance candidate, Doug Ellis, finished third with 1,104 votes.
Romey Frances Heuff, carrying the Green Party banner, received 469 votes, while the NDP's Keith LeBlanc got 203 votes.
Doucet held the energy and resource development and agriculture, aquaculture and fisheries portfolios in the Gallant government. He was also government house Leader.
Quispamsis
Liberal Aaron Kennedy finished second, with 2,078 votes, followed by People's Alliance candidate Keith Porter.
The Green Party's Mark Woolsey finished fourth and NDP candidate Ryan Jewkes placed last with 239 votes.
Rothesay
Progressive Conservative Ted Flemming defeated Liberal candidate Stephanie Tomilson for the second time.
People's Alliance candidate Michael Griffin finished in third place with 722 votes.
The Green Party's Ann McAllister received 571 votes, while the NDP's Josh Floyd got 251 votes.
Flemming was first elected in 2012 byelection. He was a member of Alward's cabinet, first as health minister and then as attorney general.
Kings Centre
The new riding was created in 2013. It runs from Welsford up to Norton, encompassing parts of the old Fundy-River Valley and Hampton-Kings ridings.
Oliver garnered 3,267 votes, good enough for 43 per cent of the vote.
Liberal Bill Merrifield finished a distant second, followed by People's Alliance candidate Dave Peters.
Green Party candidate Bruce Dryer finished fourth. NDP candidate Susan Jane Shedd received 342 votes.
Hampton
The Liberals fielded Carley Parish, a local lawyer. She finished second, followed closely by People's Alliance candidate Dana Hansen.
The Green Party ran John Sabine in the riding, while the NDP candidate was Layton Peck.
Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins
Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins was the best showing for the People's Alliance in the Saint John region. Candidate Jim Bedford came second with more than 1,800 votes.
Liberal Ian Smyth placed third, followed by Green Party candidate Fred Harrison, the NDP's Dawna Robertson and independent candidate David Raymond Amos.
Northrup was a key part of Alward's cabinet, serving as minister of natural resources. He was later appointed minister of public safety and solicitor general.
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Higgs says he will seek to govern as party overcomes challenges
Progressive Conservative leader puts own interpretation on election results
Blaine
Higgs, who sought to return New Brunswick's Progressive Conservatives
to power after four years in opposition, says he plans to meet with the
lieutenant-governor and intends to form the next government.
The party secured 22 seats in the 49-seat legislature, short of the 25 needed for a majority government.
But the party eked out one more seat than the Liberals, the party that governed for the past four years. The Green Party and People's Alliance won three seats each.
"The one who wins the most seats forms government," Higgs said Monday evening in an interview with CBC.
Philippe Lagassé, an expert on the Westminster system of government at Carleton University in Ottawa, said that's not the case.
Higgs said he'll need support from the other parties to govern.
Liberal Leader Brian Gallant told supporters he intends to meet with Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau about working with other parties to pass legislation on a vote-by-vote, issue-by-issue basis.
The party secured 22 seats in the 49-seat legislature, short of the 25 needed for a majority government.
But the party eked out one more seat than the Liberals, the party that governed for the past four years. The Green Party and People's Alliance won three seats each.
"The one who wins the most seats forms government," Higgs said Monday evening in an interview with CBC.
Philippe Lagassé, an expert on the Westminster system of government at Carleton University in Ottawa, said that's not the case.
Liberal Leader Brian Gallant told supporters he intends to meet with Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau about working with other parties to pass legislation on a vote-by-vote, issue-by-issue basis.
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Higgs took a shot at Gallant, saying he was "in denial about the election results."
The PC leader said he's looking forward to working with the leaders of the Green and People's Alliance parties.
"We've got to put priorities of the province ahead of politics," Higgs said. "I've said that for eight years."
"We're getting into the weeds now, it's all premature," Coon said as results were still coming in Monday evening.
The 64-year-old PC leader won his Quispamsis riding, taking almost 57 per cent of the vote. The PCs finished the campaign with one more seat than when the legislature dissolved.
Vote split worries
The PCs openly warned in the final days of the campaign against splitting the vote, suggesting people vote for a party that has better chance to win.
"Why would we take a chance on splitting the vote and having another four years of Brian Gallant?" Higgs said last week. "Because that is the real risk for New Brunswick."
"I will work with anyone who has the best interest of putting our province first and politics second," Higgs said.
The suggestion the PCs would be open to working with the People's Alliance, which campaigned on ending language duality, drew criticism from the francophone community on social media.
Language issues
Language issues dogged Higgs — who isn't bilingual — and the PC campaign. The last unilingual premier was Richard Hatfield, who left office more than three decades ago.
A proposed Radio-Canada leaders' debate did not go ahead after Higgs said he couldn't take part, prompting Liberal Leader Brian Gallant to say no as well.
The PC leader did take part in a Rogers/Brunswick News debate using translation equipment.
Higgs sought to distance himself from his past with the Confederation of Regions party, which campaigned on repealing official bilingualism.
"I have a different perspective on things today," Higgs said in August. "I believe that all New Brunswickers, French and English, have the opportunity to speak their own language and to learn another one. My opinion has changed over the last 30 years."
In that role, he oversaw cuts to public spending, though he was not able to eliminate the deficit.
Higgs was re-elected in 2014 when the Liberals took power.
The Liberals in this election repeatedly attacked Higgs over his record as finance minister, suggesting he would make further cuts to health and education if the PCs won. Higgs was vague on the cost of some promises, saying he didn't have the financial details necessary to make accurate predictions.
In the document, he claimed the Liberals offered him a position as finance minister or deputy minister in the government shortly after the Tories were defeated in 2014.
The Liberals denied it.
Plain-spoken message
Higgs secured the PC party leadership in October 2016, leading every ballot against six other candidates.
His plain-spoken message: He would do politics differently as leader.
The party entered the election year with a financial disadvantage.
The party fielded candidates who previously ran or supported other parties.
That included former NDP leader Dominic Cardy in Fredericton West-Hanwell and former Liberal supporter Moira Murphy in Moncton South.
At several points, PC candidates took positions that differed or contradicted Higgs, including positions on schools in Moncton and changes to a controversial law on relocating judges.
He was hired at Irving Oil Ltd. and rose through the ranks before entering politics.
Higgs and his wife, Marcia, have four daughters and three grandchildren.
With files from Radio-Canada
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