Trust that I called interim Liberal leader John Fraser and city council candidate Chris Moise after reading their words

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Ontario's highest court paves way for major cuts to size of Toronto city council

Court of Appeal for Ontario ruling means a 25-ward election in Toronto on Oct. 22 more likely

CBC News · Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:00 AM ET

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 "POOF"
jim mika

BRAVO !!!

Common sense and democracy prevails yet again!

David Amos

@Bob Palmateer "Clayton Ruby, Justice Hackland, come to mind with respect to activist judges and leftist pals. "

YUP

David Amos

@Paul Doe "Very interesting interview."

YUP

David Amos

@Xavier Galan Welcome to the Circus

David Amos

@jim mika Trust that I called interim Liberal leader John Fraser and city council candidate Chris Moise after reading their words.

 
jim mika

So, the left demanded that this remain with the courts.

Fine. It did.

Now, they're furious.

Amazing.

John Werry

@jim mika I am not furious. I support the Courts even if I did not get my way...

David Amos

@John Werry "I support the Courts even if I did not get my way..."

Not I

Richard Dekkar

Looks like the legal opinions on last week's ruling all correct: the government is on solid footing. The notwithstanding clause won't be used and the City of Toronto can now look forward to a streamlined government where things actually get done. Kudos to Ford for taking a stand and seeing it through!

William Whittingham (The Phantom)

@Richard Dekkar

Shows what all the high school dropouts know around here today. It's a stay - the original court decision still stands, and has to be enacted. A stay is just a delay to give time to respond to it.

The fact the election will be now forced to be disrupted by it, the stay, only adds even MORE denial of rights that the original decision found.

I mean really. Not a lawyer, but I did get a high school diploma...

The staying court will be up for extreme criticism on this later on, as their decision to allow the stay does not in any way protect the rights of the original rights holders, but DOES rather directly protect those who were found to have been the deniers of the original rights...

???

(Just a hunch but based on the above, I speculate the professional careers of those stay granters, and, the reputation of their court - just went up in smoke...) 

David Amos

@William Whittingham (The Phantom) (Just a hunch but based on the above, I speculate the professional careers of those stay granters, and, the reputation of their court - just went up in smoke...)

Methinks they just became heroes to many other Canadians who obviously do not think like you N'esy Pas?

 
Dave MacDonald

Vindication that Ford was right all along . Waiting for all the progressives to apologize now . Yes,I know they won't because they can't admit when they are wrong .

Michael Murphy

@Dave MacDonald I'm neither right nor wrong

I support the courts, even when i disagree

You see, I'm not a Conservative

if the Supreme Court were to overrule this court, I support that too

Dave MacDonald

@Michael Murphy More like you can't admit you were wrong and don't understand our constitution .

Michael Murphy

@Dave MacDonald I don't even live in Toronto, I never took a stand at all

My issue is why do I have to pay taxes to fight court battles to save someone else money?

Isn't that "redistribution of wealth"?

David Amos

@Dave MacDonald I concur

David Amos

@Michael Murphy Isn't that "redistribution of wealth"?

Nope

 
Bill Davis

Like this guy more everyday. Don't know much about him or his politics but he looks polar opposite to a run-of-mill politician and that alone is enough for me. Go Dougie. The left is going to go crazier than they already are.

Charlie Groh

@Bill Davis
You don't know anything about him but you like him more everyday because he doesn't come across as the usual "run-of-mill politician"?

So, it doesn't matter to you if he is actually capable of governing, of managing finances, of following the law in the administration of justice, of maintaining and improving our education system, as well as our health and social services, and of maintaining our highways?

Thank you for confirming what I have come to believe - Far too many people vote without educating themselves on the issues and without thinking about the possible outcomes. In other words, without having a clue.

David Amos

@Charlie Groh If you are oh so clued in then you must know why I am laughing at you Correct?

 
Peter Neziol

Thank goodness they over turned the decision! Cant have one judge hold up democracy. Great job Dougie!!

David Amos

@Peter Neziol Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?

Jacques Untel

Common sense prevails over judicial activism. Keep going Doug!

Cindy Louis

@Jacques Untel

Don't you think there's other, more pressing stuff to concentrate on? The Ford Government is looking like a bunch of clowns worrying about sex ed and civic government sizes.

David Amos

@Cindy Louis Cry me a river

 
Zao Medong

Go Doug go

Less Toronto politicians = less taxes, nannying, bans.

Bye bye

Rayman Bacchus

@Zao Medong are you really under the impression that less politicians will lower taxes? Knowing our governments, it will raise taxes. This changes and lowers nothing and was a complete waste of time for ONTARIO. The size of council in Toronto means nothing for the rest of the province. It was a waste of tax payer money simply so that the Ford family so they can bully Toronto. That was all this was. At the end of the day....no tax payer money will be saved and nothing will change.

David Amos

@Rayman Bacchus "At the end of the day....no tax payer money will be saved and nothing will change."

The Fat Lady ain't sung yet

 
Milloy Johnson

Who would actually want more city councilors? 25 even seems high

This should be good news for everyone but the fact its Doug doing it will create automatic backlash

David Amos

@Milloy Johnson "Who would actually want more city councilors? 25 even seems high "

I agree

 
Rod Begin

Great news go Premier Ford judges do not rule this country!

William Whittingham (The Phantom)

@Rod Begin

Then any of the laws or procedures that Ford passes while he is Premier, then following governments will be able to undo at will for the same reason.

(Glad you like that idea...) 

David Amos

@William Whittingham (The Phantom) I do too

Ontario's highest court paves way for major cuts to size of Toronto city council

Court of Appeal for Ontario ruling means a 25-ward election in Toronto on Oct. 22 more likely

CBC News · Posted: Sep 19, 2018 4:00 AM ET 

An Ontario Superior Court deemed Premier Doug Ford's council-cutting Bill 5 'unconstitutional' last week. But on Wednesday, the PCs won their attempt to gain a stay of last week's decision, moving closer to slashing the size of Toronto council for next month's election. (Cole Burston/Canadian Press)







Ontario's highest court has paved the way for a considerable cut to the size of Toronto's city council just weeks from a municipal election.

This morning, a panel of three Court of Appeal justices stayed a lower court's Sept. 10 ruling that struck down a provincial bill that would cut the council from 47 to 25 members.

The decision — which basically freezes the lower court's decision — means city staff will immediately begin preparing for a 25-ward election Oct. 22.

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In its arguments earlier this week, the province's legal team said the stay was necessary to provide certainty to the city clerk, who is responsible for upholding a fair election.

The timing and circumstances of the election were thrown into chaos when the Progressive Conservatives unexpectedly introduced the council-cutting legislation, Bill 5, after the campaign period had already begun. The city challenged it in Ontario Superior Court, and Judge Edward Belobaba ruled against the province, saying the legislation was unconstitutional because it violated freedom of expression rights for candidates and voters.

The Court of Appeal, however, disagreed with his assessment of the legislation, calling it a "dubious ruling that invalidates legislation duly passed by the legislature.

Unfairness alone does not establish a charter breach.- Court of Appeal for Ontario decision

"Unquestionably, Ontario's announcement of its intention to introduce Bill 5 disrupted the campaigns that were already underway. However, Bill 5 does not limit or restrict any message the candidates wish to convey to voters," the ruling said.

"While the change brought about by Bill 5 is undoubtedly frustrating for candidates who started campaigning in May 2018, we are not persuaded that their frustration amounts to a substantial interference with their freedom of expression," it continued.

"Candidates had a reasonable expectation that they would be operating under a 47-ward platform …. However, neither that platform nor that expectation was constitutionally guaranteed. Unfairness alone does not establish a charter breach."

PC MPP Stephen Lecce said the government is pleased with the ruling and Torontonians should be, too.

Lecce said it amounts to "removing waste from government" and blasted city council for being "ineffective."

Lecce reiterated the government's argument that a smaller council will lead to the city building key infrastructure, like transit and housing, faster, adding it will "unleash the economic potential" of Toronto.

Appeal likely to succeed, judges say

In addition to its successful request for a stay, the province responded to Belobaba's ruling by filing an appeal and introducing a second, nearly identical bill to circumvent his decision. Bill 31 includes a rarely used and controversial constitutional provision known as the notwithstanding clause.

The province's legal team said in court this week that if a stay were granted, the government would not move to pass Bill 31.

The decision released Wednesday means Premier Doug Ford is one step closer to slashing the size of Toronto council, while his government will avoid using the notwithstanding clause —a move that has drawn ire from legal scholars and activists.

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The outcome of the province's appeal remains uncertain, and is unlikely to be heard by a court before the first week of November. However, in their decision, the appeals court justices said it too will likely succeed.

"The question for the courts is not whether Bill 5 is unfair but whether it is unconstitutional," they wrote.

"On that crucial question, we have concluded that there is a strong likelihood that application judge erred in law and that the Attorney General's appeal to this court will succeed."

The news drew immediate outrage from both Ford's rivals at Queen's Park and his critics on Toronto city council.

MPP John Fraser, interim Liberal leader, said the ruling is "not good for democracy.

"I think most reasonable people would say, 'There's an election on, why are you changing the rules in the middle of the game?'"

He added that he is concerned that Ford may threaten to use the notwithstanding clause in future legislative battles.

Meanwhile, city council candidate Chris Moise, who was planning to run in the city's downtown core, said he feels like the province has trampled on his rights.

"I feel pretty disappointed," he told reporters at city hall, pointing out that he's poured months of effort into his council run.

"My life has now changed completely."

CBC News Toronto

Chris Moise: "I just feel really disappointed by the decision

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Chris Moise, who was planning a run for a seat in Toronto's new ward 25, reacts to the Bill 5 decision. 0:44

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