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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Trust that Trump's minions know why a lot of folks will be looking at my name the ballot again today in New Brunswick.
This is from a story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
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Trust that Trump's minions know why a lot of folks will be looking at my name the ballot again today in New Brunswick.
This is from a story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
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@Carson Brook "We are lucky we have Trudeau, Freeland, and that whole tremendous Canadian trade team"
WOW Talk of jerking an old dog's chain EH? Methinks folks should never mind Facebook nonsense and check out the real world in order to have some idea of who a man is before you opt to tease him N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
WOW Talk of jerking an old dog's chain EH? Methinks folks should never mind Facebook nonsense and check out the real world in order to have some idea of who a man is before you opt to tease him N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Jan Lenova
If they continually try to force deadlines, then they obviously do NOT want a "fair" NAFTA with Canada.
David Amos
@Jan Lenova Methinks Trump claimed NAFTA wasn't a fair deal long before he was ever elected N'esy Pas?
Rick Wier
@David Amos ignore this guy until he learns how to spell
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David Amos
@Rick Wier Methinks you are way past too late to learn about ethical conduct N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@Rick Wier I get "Content disabled." notice after my reply to you had been published for hours?
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David Amos
@David Amos Now I get a "Content disabled." notice as soon as I click on reply?
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From: Brian Gallant <briangallant10@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 07:40:56 -0700
Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: Methinks the Speaker Chris Collins and everbody else
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To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
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Merci.
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Methinks some folks in New Brunswick may enjoy my two bits worth found
within the "most liked' threads of other CBC articles today N'esy
Pas?'
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Missing another NAFTA deadline would be risky — but not fatal
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'Whether Canada is in or out ... you can't get the text done by Sept.
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David Amos
Trust that Trump's minions know why a lot of folks will be looking at my name the ballot again today in New Brunswick.
This is from a story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
David Amos
"The Canadians may prefer not to make unpopular dairy market concessions this week, in the final days of Quebec's election campaign."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-votes-ontario-election-1.4678285
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's decision to vote in the upcoming Ontario provincial election while representing a Quebec riding federally has offended at least one Conservative MP from Quebec."
I have no doubt Trudeau The Younger is very much in tune with his home province. Even though he voted in Ontario during the last provincial election he does not seem to care about New Brunswick's election at all.
greg howard
Thank goodness we have a government willing to stand up to trump, rather than the Dimple team that wants a deal no matter what!
They would have done a deal for short term political gain, and long term economic pain.
Stay the course JT!!
They would have done a deal for short term political gain, and long term economic pain.
Stay the course JT!!
David Amos
@greg howard "the Dimple team" ???
Pray tell is that whom I refer to asl Harper 2.0 and the Boyz and Girlz in Blue?
Pray tell is that whom I refer to asl Harper 2.0 and the Boyz and Girlz in Blue?
Jim Donald
@greg howard In this instant I
think every one should keep their bigotry (Liberal, Conservative and
other) to them selves. Far to much at stake for the whole country for
name calling and posturing.
David Amos
@Jim Donald Ladies used to
claim that my dimples were attractive. So how is that an insult?
Furtmore methinks Andy is honoured to be called Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?
Dave Bear
@Milena Ville
The last time we had a CAD at that level was when Chretien and his Band of Bandits was running the show. Can Trudeau take us to a lower level?
The last time we had a CAD at that level was when Chretien and his Band of Bandits was running the show. Can Trudeau take us to a lower level?
David Amos
@Dave Bear 'Can Trudeau take us to a lower level?'
We are already there along with his peoplekind
We are already there along with his peoplekind
Jan Lenova
If they continually try to force deadlines, then they obviously do NOT want a "fair" NAFTA with Canada.
David Amos
@Jan Lenova Methinks Trump claimed NAFTA wasn't a fair deal long before he was ever elected N'esy Pas?
Rick Wier
@David Amos ignore this guy until he learns how to spell
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David Amos
David Amos
@Rick Wier Methinks you are way past too late to learn about ethical conduct N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@Rick Wier I get "Content disabled." notice after my reply to you had been published for hours?
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David Amos
@David Amos Now I get a "Content disabled." notice as soon as I click on reply?
David Amos
@Rick Wier "ignore this guy until he learns how to spell"
Who is "this guy" ???
Who is "this guy" ???
Bryan Atkinson
Deadlines. Deadlines. Oh the deadlines. What is this? A newspaper or a trade deal?
The Trumps are getting desperate. They need a deal to con the base before the midterms.
The Trumps are getting desperate. They need a deal to con the base before the midterms.
Rob Scott
@Bryan Atkinson
Trump plans to ditch the deal with much fanfare to
fulfill his campaign promise and rile up his base.
He doesn't want a deal. I think the Canadian team
knows this yet continue to bargain in good faith as
a contrast to Team Trump who we all know aren't.
Canada will appear rational to 70 % of Americans
when Trump fails at negotiating and stomps off
piously.
Trump plans to ditch the deal with much fanfare to
fulfill his campaign promise and rile up his base.
He doesn't want a deal. I think the Canadian team
knows this yet continue to bargain in good faith as
a contrast to Team Trump who we all know aren't.
Canada will appear rational to 70 % of Americans
when Trump fails at negotiating and stomps off
piously.
David Amos
@Rob Scott "Trump plans to ditch the deal with much fanfare to
fulfill his campaign promise" Perhaps
However CBC tells us
The Canadians may prefer not to make unpopular dairy market concessions this week, in the final days of Quebec's election campaign.
And standing tough against Americans can be politically popular.
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, who chooses her words carefully, revealed to reporters this week that supportive notes — even gifts of flowers and chocolate — are arriving at her office to thank Canada's team for hanging in against the perceived bullying of Trump's team.
"In the meantime, the three nations have a deal in effect that (apart from the steel and aluminum tariffs) keeps North America's trade tariff-free. That's the 'pro' of the status quo."
BTW I am on the ballot again in Fundy and Polling Day for me and all the other folks in New Brunswick is tomorrow, Methinks we had been hit hard by Trump tariffs as well N'esy Pas?
Stanley Baird
@Bryan Atkinson I don’t think much changes regardless of the midterms.
David Amos
@Stanley Baird I disagree
Don King
The US is not a reliable,
honest, or ethical trading partner. They regard us with contempt and
their leader is self-serving and fickle. What could possibly go wrong?
Kudos to our negotiating team for not flinching in the face of constant
threats, bluffing, and mean spiritedness. With that all said, we need
them. Yeesh!!
David Amos
@Don King Welcome to the Circus
Stanley Baird
@Don King getting along with
the US is not that hard but seemly difficult for Freeland and Trudeau.
This is ultimately getting us a worse trade deal or no deal.
@Don King
Quite frankly, the FTA of 1988 and NAFTA have been bad for Canadian workers, Canadian culture - where are the Canadian TV and movies we used to have - and also Canadian manufacturing. The US has broken every treaty it has ever signed from the Native treaties to the Paris Accord and International Criminal Court - their motto have always been " Never give a sucker an even break." We'd be far better off w/o any trade deals with them. As we were in 1987.
Quite frankly, the FTA of 1988 and NAFTA have been bad for Canadian workers, Canadian culture - where are the Canadian TV and movies we used to have - and also Canadian manufacturing. The US has broken every treaty it has ever signed from the Native treaties to the Paris Accord and International Criminal Court - their motto have always been " Never give a sucker an even break." We'd be far better off w/o any trade deals with them. As we were in 1987.
David Amos
@Stanley Baird "The Canadians
may prefer not to make unpopular dairy market concessions this week, in
the final days of Quebec's election campaign."
Seems they forgot the Dairy Farmers and the Woodsmen in New Brunswick yet Polling Day is tomorrow while I am on the ballot in Fundy again,
Seems they forgot the Dairy Farmers and the Woodsmen in New Brunswick yet Polling Day is tomorrow while I am on the ballot in Fundy again,
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David Amos
@Rick Turpin It appears that
we agree about a few things, Small wonder that a lot of folks will be
looking at my name the ballot again tomorrow
This is from a story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004
The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight
"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."
Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
running for office in Canada."
"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."
"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."
Carson Brook
@David Amos
The big Trump Lies about US and dairy
Fact is that the USDA is setting milk prices on spontaneous and devastating rates which are destroying the dairy farmer of US. So Trump is running heavy with his 'hate Canada' and Canada is destroying the dairy farmers whom we love'. rants.... when in fact he is supporting the programs in the US which are destroying the whole industry and the small communities. And I'm sure that the Canadian trade negotiators already know this. Some of the reality 'aces' they still have u p their sleeves: factual information. We are lucky we have Trudeau, Freeland, and that whole tremendous Canadian trade team
look at documentary film
https://www.facebook.com/forgottenfarms/
The big Trump Lies about US and dairy
Fact is that the USDA is setting milk prices on spontaneous and devastating rates which are destroying the dairy farmer of US. So Trump is running heavy with his 'hate Canada' and Canada is destroying the dairy farmers whom we love'. rants.... when in fact he is supporting the programs in the US which are destroying the whole industry and the small communities. And I'm sure that the Canadian trade negotiators already know this. Some of the reality 'aces' they still have u p their sleeves: factual information. We are lucky we have Trudeau, Freeland, and that whole tremendous Canadian trade team
look at documentary film
https://www.facebook.com/forgottenfarms/
David Amos
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David Amos
@Carson Brook "We are lucky we have Trudeau, Freeland, and that whole tremendous Canadian trade team"
WOW Talk of jerking an old dog's chain EH? Methinks folks should never mind Facebook nonsense and check out the real world in order to have some idea of who a man is before you opt to tease him N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
WOW Talk of jerking an old dog's chain EH? Methinks folks should never mind Facebook nonsense and check out the real world in order to have some idea of who a man is before you opt to tease him N'esy Pas?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
David Amos
@Carson Brook I disagree bigtime
Jordan F. Dorino
""very good deal that was designed by Mexico and the U.S. to appeal to Canada.""
Translation... Not worth the paper(toilet) it was scribbled on
No Deal is better than a Trump deal
Translation... Not worth the paper(toilet) it was scribbled on
No Deal is better than a Trump deal
David Amos
@Jordan F. Dorino I concur
Nick Danger
@Jordan F. Dorino
If the Trump deal with Mexico was so great then why isn't Mexico building his wall?
If the Trump deal with Mexico was so great then why isn't Mexico building his wall?
David Amos
@Nick Danger Exactly
Andrew McLaren
Why should Canadians be in
any particular rush to submit to Donald Trump’s “heads I win tails you
lose”, divide-and-conquer agenda, of slamming America First/Always all
over the rest of the planet? Wait for the November attitude adjustor at
least.
David Amos
@Andrew McLaren Why not wait to hear what Congress has to say about Trump's nonsense?
Stanley Baird
@Andrew McLaren you really think Congress is gonna stand up for Canada - seems like a risky strategy
Michele McLean
@Stanley Baird
They'd be standing up for the existing tri-lateral NAFTA, which they know favours them.
That IS in their interest.
You frame the issue dishonestly.
They'd be standing up for the existing tri-lateral NAFTA, which they know favours them.
That IS in their interest.
You frame the issue dishonestly.
David Amos
@Michele McLean I agree
John Sollows
I keep looking at the ethics of the administration to our south and it scares the hell out of me.
We had better keep our distance. We are going to get hurt in any case. Let's think long-term and focus on doing the right thing.
Rolling over for this bunch will hurt us a lot more and a lot longer.
We had better keep our distance. We are going to get hurt in any case. Let's think long-term and focus on doing the right thing.
Rolling over for this bunch will hurt us a lot more and a lot longer.
David Amos
@John Sollows Methinks to be fair you should check the ethics of our own government while you are at it N'esy Pas?
@David Amos
We should check the ethics of any government, but let's get real shall we?
We should check the ethics of any government, but let's get real shall we?
David Amos
@John Sollows I am for real Google David Amos Federal Court
Kate Ferguson
Trump hasn't got the memo,
and neither has FOX - Canada doesn't recognise their fabricated
deadlines, because Canada is negotiating for Canada, and we aren't
signing any deal anytime soon.
John Mestills
@Kate Ferguson
Fox is trying to help DT by laying his NAFTA failure at the feet of Canada.
Get ready for the narrative "Trump gave Canada a great deal but the Canadians wanted more .. they wanted to continue taking advantage of US while laughing at us.."
Fox is trying to help DT by laying his NAFTA failure at the feet of Canada.
Get ready for the narrative "Trump gave Canada a great deal but the Canadians wanted more .. they wanted to continue taking advantage of US while laughing at us.."
David Amos
@John Mestills Who is FOX to us?
Neil Gregory
Trump's team is NOT bargaining on good faith.
- We have already had several fake deadlines, and now we have another one.
- We have had punitive tariffs imposed on our steel and aluminum, and threats of more tariffs.
- We have had too many unfair and unreasonable demands made on us, and likely more to come.
In Trump's world "Give and take" mean that the HE takes and EVERYBODY else gives.
- We have already had several fake deadlines, and now we have another one.
- We have had punitive tariffs imposed on our steel and aluminum, and threats of more tariffs.
- We have had too many unfair and unreasonable demands made on us, and likely more to come.
In Trump's world "Give and take" mean that the HE takes and EVERYBODY else gives.
David MacKinnon
@pat fisher
every negoiation I have ever had with a US corporation or person went like this, it seems that they wish to win in baseball, football, hockey, business, science ect. we in Canada are much nicer, we are not sure why anybody would want to keep score and well it's just more polite to finish last.
every negoiation I have ever had with a US corporation or person went like this, it seems that they wish to win in baseball, football, hockey, business, science ect. we in Canada are much nicer, we are not sure why anybody would want to keep score and well it's just more polite to finish last.
David Amos
@David MacKinnon "we in
Canada are much nicer, we are not sure why anybody would want to keep
score and well it's just more polite to finish last."
Trust that many lawyers, cops and politicians camped on both sides of the 49th know that I am definitely not the type of Canadian you describe us to be. Methinks many folks in Fundy would think that you deny the nature of your obvious Scottish heritage far too easily. Trust that not all of us are defeatists as Harper described. His British song and dance ancestors came to Fundy Royal long ago and where they first located is still called Harper Settlement N'esy Pas?
Jordan F. Dorino
Je suis Canadien de
l'Alberta, je soutiens les producteurs laitiers du Québec. Ils ne
doivent pas être jetés sous le bus, juste parce qu'un Buffoon le veut.
I'm a Canadian from Alberta, I support Quebec Dairy Farmers. They are not to be thrown under the bus, just because a Buffoon wants it.
I'm a Canadian from Alberta, I support Quebec Dairy Farmers. They are not to be thrown under the bus, just because a Buffoon wants it.
David Amos
@Jordan F. Dorino Good for you
Rick Wier
@Manny Fredrick most Canadian
dairy farmers are not big corporate monopolies,they are mostly hard
working family businesses providing quality milk products to Canadians
and not flooding the market iike the heavily subsidized corporte milk
produced south of the border
Jordan F. Dorino
@Charly Vaughan
The Unstable Clown Posse/Unhinged Crackpot Party(UCP). Led by a former Party Harper elitist. A man who makes noise about how unfair the Equalization Program is, hoping Albertans have very short memories. The current EQ program was passed by the Party Harper. The same man is the one who opened the floodgates with TFWs to suppress wages for working people. Yeah, they will really do wonders for Alberta
The Unstable Clown Posse/Unhinged Crackpot Party(UCP). Led by a former Party Harper elitist. A man who makes noise about how unfair the Equalization Program is, hoping Albertans have very short memories. The current EQ program was passed by the Party Harper. The same man is the one who opened the floodgates with TFWs to suppress wages for working people. Yeah, they will really do wonders for Alberta
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David Amos
David Amos
@Rick Wier I would lay odds that many Dairy Farmers know exactly who I am while they have ever heard of you
David Amos
@Jordan F. Dorino Perhaps you may enjoy Googling the following
trump cohen david amos nafta fatca tpp
trump cohen david amos nafta fatca tpp
Jordan F. Dorino
@David Amos
Trumps fake news?
Trumps fake news?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Jordan F. Dorino Should your insult of my work somehow impress me?
Jordan F. Dorino
@David Amos
I'm sure your over-inflated Ego impresses itself
I'm sure your over-inflated Ego impresses itself
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David Amos
David Amos
@Jordan F. Dorino Perhaps you should Google your own name
Missing another NAFTA deadline would be risky — but not fatal
'Whether Canada is in or out ... you can't get the text done by Sept. 30,' ex-U.S. negotiator says
Washington's warning to Canada to not miss the next deadline in
the renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement is
starting to sound at this point like a boy crying wolf.
Several deadlines have been blown already. The talks continue.
The latest warning came Friday from White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett, who told Fox News that President Donald Trump's administration was "a little puzzled" about why negotiators hadn't yet closed the "very good deal that was designed by Mexico and the U.S. to appeal to Canada."
"We're getting very, very close to the deadline where we're going to have to move ahead with Mexico all by themselves," he said.
That
deadline — Oct. 1 — is next weekend. Last week's talks failed to make a
breakthrough, and it's not clear when officials might meet again. Might
another deadline come and go without a deal? Should Canadians be
alarmed if it does?
It certainly wouldn't be the first time. In May, negotiators put on the steam to reach an agreement in time for the current U.S. Congress to vote on it.
It didn't work. The U.S. turned up the heat and stopped exempting Canada and Mexico from the global steel and aluminum tariffs it levied to protect the "national security" interests of its domestic industry.
Then came some secret summer brinksmanship: the U.S. and Mexico met alone for nearly the entire month of August, reached a preliminary agreement, and then expected Canada to sign on within a couple of days.
No dice. Congress was notified a deal had been reached that Canada could join as talks bled into September.
The U.S. Congress needs to see text 60 days before Trump would be authorized to sign anything with outgoing Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, who leaves office on Dec. 1.
People familiar with drafting trade agreements say they suspect that because nothing was decided this week, it's already too late — the key players just aren't admitting it publicly.
"Whether Canada is in or out, either way, you can't get the text done by Sept. 30," said Jennifer Hillman, a former U.S. trade official and adjudicator, now a professor at the Georgetown Law Center.
The August agreement was premised on Canada joining, and it would need a drastic overhaul before the United States and Mexico could proceed as a twosome. "I just don't see how that's realistic," she said.
Plus, Congress is expecting a renegotiated NAFTA, not a two-way deal, Hillman said.
Foreign
Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland told reporters this week that her
office has received notes of encouragement and gifts of flowers and
chocolate from Canadians grateful to negotiators for standing up for
them at the NAFTA table. (Carolyn Kaster/Associated Press)
Yes,
some Republicans loyal to Trump are warning Canada to get with the
program, but "what you've mostly heard from the Congress is, 'Don't you
dare do a deal without Canada,'" she said.
At the same time, it's still all just talk.
"So far, this Congress has been completely spineless," said Hillman.
Couple that with an impatient, unpredictable president, and there's rough road ahead if a last-minute deal doesn't land soon.
Yes, Congress could intervene to stop the president from withdrawing from NAFTA. Others might go to court to hold him back as well.
And yes, the automotive industry's dire warnings about car tariffs could be taken seriously, to the point where the Commerce Department decides not to proceed with them (or to at least exempt Canada and Mexico).
But if you're in Justin Trudeau's government, you're thinking it's pretty stomach-churning to count on American politicians and business interests right now — with the fall midterms bearing down and with the urge to stage some attention-grabbing drama running high in American political circles.
So what happens if another deadline is blown?
"My assumption is that the negotiations can keep going," Hillman said. "To ask Canada to sign on in just three weeks strikes me as a little bit unfair."
The process that was started at the end of August has a 90-day minimum time frame, but "there is no maximum," she pointed out.
It helps Canada's case that it appears to be working hard toward a deal, she said.
As
for the outgoing Mexican president, there's nothing preventing him from
signing an agreement early, if a bit more time is what it takes to land
a deal.
"Lots and lots of treaties are not all signed in the same place at the same time," Hillman said.
In the meantime, the three nations have a deal in effect that (apart from the steel and aluminum tariffs) keeps North America's trade tariff-free. That's the 'pro' of the status quo.
The 'con' is that those damaging steel and aluminum tariffs, and the threatened car tariffs, could do serious economic damage if the current situation drags on.
Mexico's desire to make its political calendar work — incoming president Andres Manuel López Obrador supports the deal, but doesn't want to wear it — led to Mexico's self-preserving move to sign a separate deal last month. It also put Canada in a tight spot.
This week, Peña Nieto's lead negotiator, Kenneth Smith Ramos, said that Mexico didn't insist on lifting the steel and aluminum tariffs because it's confident they're just temporary.
(U.S. allies are arguing they're illegal before the World Trade Organization — an adjudicator quickly becoming hobbled by a lack of American co-operation.)
From Mexico's perspective, the threatened car tariffs — for which it obtained "insurance" in a side letter — are far scarier.
From Canada's viewpoint, both the existing metals tariffs and the possible car tariffs are a nightmare.
"It's like leaving a loaded gun on the table," said John Manley, the former Liberal foreign affairs and finance minister who now heads the Business Council of Canada. "We've already seen that they'll pick it up and point it at our heads."
Trump's
too unpredictable, Manley said. "I am cautiously pessimistic that
there'll be anything that comes out of this that looks like a deal, or
that's good for Canada."
Both Hillman and Manley agree a deal takes flexibility on both sides.
Americans accuse Canada's negotiators of "slow-walking" and dragging out the talks.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Wednesday that Canada needs to see movement from the U.S.
"I've seen more evidence that the U.S. negotiating team does not negotiate, but simply makes demands," said Manley, whose organization is closely monitoring the talks.
Only the fly on the wall knows for sure who's not budging, or whether both sides are being stubborn.
The Canadians may prefer not to make unpopular dairy market concessions this week, in the final days of Quebec's election campaign.
And standing tough against Americans can be politically popular.
Foreign
Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, who chooses her words carefully,
revealed to reporters this week that supportive notes — even gifts of
flowers and chocolate — are arriving at her office to thank Canada's
team for hanging in against the perceived bullying of Trump's team.
"I used to say there were two rules in Canadian politics: don't get too close to the U.S. and don't get too far from the U.S.," said Manley, who guided Canada's relationship with Washington in the difficult days following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
"No politician could look at that without thinking, 'I wonder if there's some way I can be running against Donald Trump in the next Canadian election?'
"It would be surprising to me if the prime minister and his team aren't thinking that already. But at the same time, we have vital national interests at stake."
Several deadlines have been blown already. The talks continue.
The latest warning came Friday from White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett, who told Fox News that President Donald Trump's administration was "a little puzzled" about why negotiators hadn't yet closed the "very good deal that was designed by Mexico and the U.S. to appeal to Canada."
"We're getting very, very close to the deadline where we're going to have to move ahead with Mexico all by themselves," he said.
It certainly wouldn't be the first time. In May, negotiators put on the steam to reach an agreement in time for the current U.S. Congress to vote on it.
It didn't work. The U.S. turned up the heat and stopped exempting Canada and Mexico from the global steel and aluminum tariffs it levied to protect the "national security" interests of its domestic industry.
Then came some secret summer brinksmanship: the U.S. and Mexico met alone for nearly the entire month of August, reached a preliminary agreement, and then expected Canada to sign on within a couple of days.
No dice. Congress was notified a deal had been reached that Canada could join as talks bled into September.
Already too late?
The U.S. Congress needs to see text 60 days before Trump would be authorized to sign anything with outgoing Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, who leaves office on Dec. 1.
People familiar with drafting trade agreements say they suspect that because nothing was decided this week, it's already too late — the key players just aren't admitting it publicly.
"Whether Canada is in or out, either way, you can't get the text done by Sept. 30," said Jennifer Hillman, a former U.S. trade official and adjudicator, now a professor at the Georgetown Law Center.
The August agreement was premised on Canada joining, and it would need a drastic overhaul before the United States and Mexico could proceed as a twosome. "I just don't see how that's realistic," she said.
Plus, Congress is expecting a renegotiated NAFTA, not a two-way deal, Hillman said.
At the same time, it's still all just talk.
"So far, this Congress has been completely spineless," said Hillman.
Couple that with an impatient, unpredictable president, and there's rough road ahead if a last-minute deal doesn't land soon.
Risky bet
Yes, Congress could intervene to stop the president from withdrawing from NAFTA. Others might go to court to hold him back as well.
And yes, the automotive industry's dire warnings about car tariffs could be taken seriously, to the point where the Commerce Department decides not to proceed with them (or to at least exempt Canada and Mexico).
But if you're in Justin Trudeau's government, you're thinking it's pretty stomach-churning to count on American politicians and business interests right now — with the fall midterms bearing down and with the urge to stage some attention-grabbing drama running high in American political circles.
"My assumption is that the negotiations can keep going," Hillman said. "To ask Canada to sign on in just three weeks strikes me as a little bit unfair."
The process that was started at the end of August has a 90-day minimum time frame, but "there is no maximum," she pointed out.
It helps Canada's case that it appears to be working hard toward a deal, she said.
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Freeland: Negotiators dealt with tough issues today
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"Lots and lots of treaties are not all signed in the same place at the same time," Hillman said.
In the meantime, the three nations have a deal in effect that (apart from the steel and aluminum tariffs) keeps North America's trade tariff-free. That's the 'pro' of the status quo.
The 'con' is that those damaging steel and aluminum tariffs, and the threatened car tariffs, could do serious economic damage if the current situation drags on.
Tariffs a 'loaded gun'
Mexico's desire to make its political calendar work — incoming president Andres Manuel López Obrador supports the deal, but doesn't want to wear it — led to Mexico's self-preserving move to sign a separate deal last month. It also put Canada in a tight spot.
This week, Peña Nieto's lead negotiator, Kenneth Smith Ramos, said that Mexico didn't insist on lifting the steel and aluminum tariffs because it's confident they're just temporary.
(U.S. allies are arguing they're illegal before the World Trade Organization — an adjudicator quickly becoming hobbled by a lack of American co-operation.)
Today @KenSmithramos explained why MX took gamble of agreeing to a 2.4 million auto export quota if Trump enacts 232 tariffs:
•"We dont think (232 tariffs) would survive for long"
•"No (US) Administration lasts forever"
•”This (armor) covers (exports) for at least next 4 yrs"
From Canada's viewpoint, both the existing metals tariffs and the possible car tariffs are a nightmare.
"It's like leaving a loaded gun on the table," said John Manley, the former Liberal foreign affairs and finance minister who now heads the Business Council of Canada. "We've already seen that they'll pick it up and point it at our heads."
Both Hillman and Manley agree a deal takes flexibility on both sides.
Americans accuse Canada's negotiators of "slow-walking" and dragging out the talks.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Wednesday that Canada needs to see movement from the U.S.
"I've seen more evidence that the U.S. negotiating team does not negotiate, but simply makes demands," said Manley, whose organization is closely monitoring the talks.
Only the fly on the wall knows for sure who's not budging, or whether both sides are being stubborn.
Flowers and chocolate for Freeland
The Canadians may prefer not to make unpopular dairy market concessions this week, in the final days of Quebec's election campaign.
And standing tough against Americans can be politically popular.
"I used to say there were two rules in Canadian politics: don't get too close to the U.S. and don't get too far from the U.S.," said Manley, who guided Canada's relationship with Washington in the difficult days following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
"No politician could look at that without thinking, 'I wonder if there's some way I can be running against Donald Trump in the next Canadian election?'
"It would be surprising to me if the prime minister and his team aren't thinking that already. But at the same time, we have vital national interests at stake."
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