David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks nothing makes sense to SANB dudes However when I was
running in the last election the news about French Immersion in
Sussex made no sense to anyone N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/01/methinks-nothing-makes-sense-to-sanb.html
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/01/methinks-nothing-makes-sense-to-sanb.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nbta-president-says-instructional-hours-adequate-1.4969743
Hours in classroom not the problem with school system, teachers rep says
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Rob Franklin
Can I make a suggestion that'll probably get beaten to death but I'll do it anyway?
1. Only offer French Immersion if the framework is in place to teach it properly, and to the end of the student's life in the school system.
2. Take all these confounded PD days and training days and all the rest and do them in the SUMMER. Save the Sept to June days for actually teaching kids.
3. Make snow days mandatory for teachers, and optional for the kids. If a kid can't get there because the buses have been shut down, that's fine, but the school is open for skills classes if they can make it. Things like cooking. sewing. household repairs. what a concept. Have a bonus book report idea or something so if the kids do stay home, they're encouraged to do something for bonus points.
4. Fail the kids if they don't perform! They'll survive, and be better people for it!
I could go on, but you get the idea.
1. Only offer French Immersion if the framework is in place to teach it properly, and to the end of the student's life in the school system.
2. Take all these confounded PD days and training days and all the rest and do them in the SUMMER. Save the Sept to June days for actually teaching kids.
3. Make snow days mandatory for teachers, and optional for the kids. If a kid can't get there because the buses have been shut down, that's fine, but the school is open for skills classes if they can make it. Things like cooking. sewing. household repairs. what a concept. Have a bonus book report idea or something so if the kids do stay home, they're encouraged to do something for bonus points.
4. Fail the kids if they don't perform! They'll survive, and be better people for it!
I could go on, but you get the idea.
Marc Martin
@Rob Franklin
* Make snow days mandatory for teachers*
This one does not make any sense...
* Make snow days mandatory for teachers*
This one does not make any sense...
Rob Franklin
@Marc Martin It makes perfect sense. Teachers claim they do a lot more than teach, so come to school and do it.
Marc Martin
@Rob Franklin
But you want the teachers to come to work when there is a storm...does not make sense to me..
But you want the teachers to come to work when there is a storm...does not make sense to me..
Georges Saint Yves
@Rob Franklin True, they do
more than teach. They have little time to plan when participating in PD
days that some claim as useless and wasted time. Factually many teachers
spend their snow days at home catching up on marking, and planning
curriculum. So in fact they are still working on these days but in their
home environment. How do I know? I have friends who are teachers.
David R. Amos
@Marc Martin "does not make sense to me.."
Methinks nothing makes sense to you SANB dudes However when I was running in the last election this was the news about French Immersion in Sussex and it definitely made no sense to anyone N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-francophone-school-district-asd-1.4814847
Methinks nothing makes sense to you SANB dudes However when I was running in the last election this was the news about French Immersion in Sussex and it definitely made no sense to anyone N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/french-immersion-francophone-school-district-asd-1.4814847
Marc Martin
@David R. Amos
You are still making no sense...SANB dude/Sussex/French immersion..I see you found another Marc Martin to harass hilarious lol.
You are still making no sense...SANB dude/Sussex/French immersion..I see you found another Marc Martin to harass hilarious lol.
Fred Brewer
The fix is easy. Go back to
streaming and fail students who do not meet the standards. The no-fail
policy has been a total failure (pun intended). This is a very low cost
fix.
Tom Simmons
@Fred Brewer failing a
student might hurt their feelings...and hurt the parents ego's. In
today's world feelings trump results and facts.
Georges Saint Yves
@Fred Brewer Streaming is a result of Immersion beginning in Gr. 1.
David R. Amos
@Fred Brewer YUP
David R. Amos
@Tom Simmons Methinks a Yankee named Trump has gotten some interesting results by ignoring both feelings and facts N'esy Pas?
Emery Hyslop-Margison
I think Dominic Cardy has
considerable promise as a cabinet minister in the Higgs government.
However, he's wrong on this issue. The problems related to New Brunswick
education cannot be solved by increased classroom hours. Low literacy
and mathematical scores among NB students are caused by the same
contextual circumstances that show 40% of New Brunswick adults are
functional illiterate. The major correlational variable with poor
academic outcomes is socio-economic status or SES. No, being poor does
not "cause" poor academic performance, but it does set in place a number
of related factors that can impede educational achievement and
attainment.
David R. Amos
@Emery Hyslop-Margison "I think Dominic Cardy has considerable promise as a cabinet minister in the Higgs government"
Nope
Nope
Mark (Junkman) George
The only thing Dominic Cardy
is interested in is Dominic Cardy. What this means is: he needs 2 terms
to get the big pension, so expect a lot of busy noise out of Dominic
Cardy until he gets it, no matter the expense.
David R. Amos
@Mark (Junkman) George YUP
Hours in classroom not the problem with school system, teachers rep says
Minister wrong to say New Brunswick lags behind other provinces in instruction hours, George Daley says
Education Minister Dominic Cardy is
misrepresenting the numbers of instruction hours that students in the
province get, says the president of the New Brunswick Teachers'
Association.
George Daley disputed data given by Cardy recently that New Brunswick students are 200 instructional hours behind the Canadian average.
"I've gone to the minister and asked him to give me that data because those numbers do not match what we have," Daley said.
"I will be meeting with Mr. Cardy to walk him through our collective agreement and explain where the hours of instruction are."
The Department of Education said later Tuesday that under the teachers' contract, kindergarten and Grades 1 and 2 require 4½ instructional hours per day. Grades 3 to 8 require 5½ hours and Grades 9 to 12 require six hours.
Daley
said that when maximum teaching hours are used to calculate instruction
time in New Brunswick, the province ranks closer to or above the
national average. (iStock)
The number of teaching days in a school year is 195, which doesn't include statutory holidays but does include snow days.
The department was asked for the source of Cardy's information but did not have an answer on Tuesday.
The instruction hours provided by the Education Department are what Daley called maximum hours. The teachers' contract also identifies minimum hours, he said, but only the maximums are followed at almost all schools.
"About 10 years ago, New Brunswick was mandated to go to maximum hours," he said.
Reports
on the school system, however, often just look at the minimum hours,
which might suggest the education system is worse than it is, Daley
said.
In most cases, New Brunswick ranks close to or above the national average in terms of instructional time, he said.
Even using the minimum instructional hours per day, the 2018 Education Indicators in Canada: An International Perspective report estimates primary school teaching hours in New Brunswick at 700, compared with the national average of 798 hours annually for primary schools.
But if instruction time is calculated using the maximum hours, Daley said, "New Brunswick has the highest hours of instruction in this country."
Daley said the conversation about education in New Brunswick needs to change to focus on improving learning environments.
"We have a problem in this province that we want to continue to beat up on education."
In December, Education Minister Dominic Cardy reported that 61.1 percent of Grade 6 anglophone students and 62.6 per cent of Grade 3 francophone students were successful on the provincial reading assessments.
Education
Minister Dominic Cardy said in December that New Brunswick is 200 hours
behind the national average in instruction time. (CBC)
Daley
said it should be highlighted that this information is based on the
province's own standards and doesn't indicate where New Brunswick
students compared to students in other provinces.
"We're having success out there," Daley said. "Yes, we have challenges but it's time that our elected leaders, and I don't just refer to the minister of education, I'm talking about every elected leader in this province, has once and for all got to stand up and be speaking on behalf of New Brunswick students and New Brunswick teachers."
He said the focus of concern should really be on classroom composition, which has become an issue since children with intellectual and other disabilities entered the public school system.
"Class composition is still the major issue in the province of New Brunswick," Daley said.
"We need changes to inclusive education policy, we need flexibility in the policy, we need the funding to be able to deal with the violent students, with the students who are taking away the learning environment for other students.
"We have an inclusion policy right now that does not have the flexibility to allow us to deal with the students in different environments … because they are taking away the learning environments of other students."
George Daley disputed data given by Cardy recently that New Brunswick students are 200 instructional hours behind the Canadian average.
"I've gone to the minister and asked him to give me that data because those numbers do not match what we have," Daley said.
"I will be meeting with Mr. Cardy to walk him through our collective agreement and explain where the hours of instruction are."
The Department of Education said later Tuesday that under the teachers' contract, kindergarten and Grades 1 and 2 require 4½ instructional hours per day. Grades 3 to 8 require 5½ hours and Grades 9 to 12 require six hours.
The department was asked for the source of Cardy's information but did not have an answer on Tuesday.
The instruction hours provided by the Education Department are what Daley called maximum hours. The teachers' contract also identifies minimum hours, he said, but only the maximums are followed at almost all schools.
"About 10 years ago, New Brunswick was mandated to go to maximum hours," he said.
In most cases, New Brunswick ranks close to or above the national average in terms of instructional time, he said.
Even using the minimum instructional hours per day, the 2018 Education Indicators in Canada: An International Perspective report estimates primary school teaching hours in New Brunswick at 700, compared with the national average of 798 hours annually for primary schools.
But if instruction time is calculated using the maximum hours, Daley said, "New Brunswick has the highest hours of instruction in this country."
"We have a problem in this province that we want to continue to beat up on education."
In December, Education Minister Dominic Cardy reported that 61.1 percent of Grade 6 anglophone students and 62.6 per cent of Grade 3 francophone students were successful on the provincial reading assessments.
"We're having success out there," Daley said. "Yes, we have challenges but it's time that our elected leaders, and I don't just refer to the minister of education, I'm talking about every elected leader in this province, has once and for all got to stand up and be speaking on behalf of New Brunswick students and New Brunswick teachers."
Calls for flexibility
He said the focus of concern should really be on classroom composition, which has become an issue since children with intellectual and other disabilities entered the public school system.
"Class composition is still the major issue in the province of New Brunswick," Daley said.
"We need changes to inclusive education policy, we need flexibility in the policy, we need the funding to be able to deal with the violent students, with the students who are taking away the learning environment for other students.
"We have an inclusion policy right now that does not have the flexibility to allow us to deal with the students in different environments … because they are taking away the learning environments of other students."
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