Wednesday, 25 September 2019

Dissatisfied with democracy? Voters like you could be part of the problem

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Methinks a big talking bean counting foreign national is attempting to influence our election by insulting the intelligence of our electorate N'esy Pas?


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I said "Methinks the real problem is the media who promote questionable beancounters N'esy Pas?"

Jay Murphy Replied "They certainly play a large part in the Dog and Pony show that is politics"



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Dissatisfied with democracy? Voters like you could be part of the problem

Voters are tribal, driven by emotion and unmoved by evidence says economist Eyal Winter



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Eyal Winter says voting is like watching football: you're more likely to tune in when your favourite team is playing. The same goes for politics: 'People are inclined more to vote when they're expecting their party to be the winner,' says the economist. (Chris Young/The Canadian Press)


This story is part of Day 6's Democracy Divided series. Each instalment takes a close look at the health of the democratic system in Canada leading up to the Oct. 21 federal election.
In an era of attack ads and political memes, plenty of Canadian voters may be longing for more substance on the campaign trail — but we aren't necessarily wired for it.

Instead, voters tend to engage with elections the same way they engage with football games, says economist Eyal Winter.


In a study, he found that sports fans would sooner watch a match between two equally skilled teams.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, he also found they prefer watching a game when all bets are on their favourite team to win.

"Same applies to voting behaviour," said Winter, a professor at the Center for the Study of Rationality. "If you have a close poll before the election, it drives people to go to vote. People are inclined more to vote when they're expecting their party to be the winner."

"This gives them some sort of feeling that they are sharing the success of the party. They have a stake in what happens."
Winter calls it "expressive voting." When casting a ballot, voters are more often driven by emotions rather than reason, and tribalism rather than self-interest.

According to Winter, voters themselves are one of the biggest flaws in our democracy — and it's only going to get worse before it gets better.


Download our podcast or click Listen above to hear the full interview with Eyal Winter.




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David Raymond Amos  
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Whereas I a running for a seat in Parliament again perhaps economist Eyal Winter should check my work related to two lawsuits against 3 US Treasury Agents and many others in 2002 Those arguments began two years before I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament and then was falsely imprisoned in the USA afterwards with the knowledge and blessings of the RCMP and the Governor General N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Raymond Amos  
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks Eyal Winter must know a lawyer or two in Canada who can query the docket in Federal Court in order to study file number T-1557-15 and the related appeal to the higher court After all as a whistle blower about financial crimes I am protecting their money too N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Raymond Amos  
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Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Here is a little proof of what I state is true

www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/2526023-DAMOSIntegrity-yea-right.-txt.pdf













Joe Yahoo
We vote to elect law-makers. I don't pretend to understand the legislative component of our system, most of my experience comes from dealing with the courts. With that said, I have noticed that as jurors we are expected to do at least three things; We are expected to leave our biases at the door, we are expected to judge things based solely on the evidence, and we are expected to be extremely polite. So if that is what is expected of us as jurors, why should we demand any different from our legislators?


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @joe yahoo: Why is it that I can't find your name in the system?













David Raymond Amos
Methinks a big talking bean counting foreign national is attempting to influence our election by insulting the intelligence of our electorate N'esy Pas?

















Robert T. Jones
Politics has become more about smearing others, about their ethics, their beliefs, their personal lives, than the business of running a country. This has fractured society along political lines, and the political parties capitalize on that by catering to the specific groups of people who make up their base, which only serves to widen those societal fractures.

We see it every day on the CBC comment forums, with endless partisan comments about Trudeau, Scheer, and even Harper.

I would like the concept of a party leader to be abolished. I would like to turn debates and elections into factual events, where the party policy/platform is the only thing that matters. I would like the voting booth to consist of a series of questions where voters' needs and beliefs are tested and a ballot is cast based on those needs and beliefs. There is no real need for the voter to even know which party they voted for based on their answers.

This way, the election results speak to the actual needs and beliefs of Canadians, and is not based on the success of the talking head at the top of the party, nor on revenge or anger or fear


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Robert T. Jones: If you happened to have read my words within many CBC comment forums and bothered to checkout whether or not what I posted was true you have a different take on some politicians










David Raymond Amos
Methinks folks would like to hear the professor at the Center for the Study of Rationality apply his reasoning to Hillary losing to Trump N'esy Pas?














John Montgomery
I won't vote for anyone who needs to find 'dirt' on the other candidates.


Tim Doiron
Reply to @John Montgomery: So, you're not voting.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Tim Doiron: LOL
















Ian Taylor
If we were living in a democracy, two issues would have been addressed long ago: 1) Amending our family court laws that have effectively torn apart the family unit. 2) Utilizing the Bank of Canada to print our own currency. Those two issues actually affect regular, everyday citizens and the social fabric of our society. Instead, we are presented with superfluous junk to argue with each other about and vote these puppets in on. At least give us a better actor to vote for.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Ian Taylor: I wholeheartedly Agree Sir














David Raymond Amos
Whereas I am a whistleblower about financial crimes who has his name is on a ballot for the 7th time as an Independent with no false illusions about ever being elected need I say that I am happy to see that many folks are upset by this nonsense?













Ericsson Leaf
the Chinese have Discovered a Better Political System Than Democracy
democracy is a circus


Jeffrey Winterbottom

Reply to @ericsson leaf: then go live there



David Raymond Amos
Reply to @ericsson leaf: I strongly disagree with you and Trudeau The Younger's opinion on the Chinese system of government However I have always said Democracy is a Circus that I truly enjoy playing my part in. 
 

Ericsson Leaf
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Reply to @Jeffrey Winterbottom: you are simpleminded Why Democracy Doesn’t Deliver
Endless elections, unqualified leaders, uninformed voters, and short-term thinking are impeding economic growth.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: you have a better answer than jeffrey


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @ericsson leaf: Judge not lest ye be judged (I ain't religious)

Perhaps YOU should Google Fundy Royal Debate ASAP EH?


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @ericsson leaf: Trust that I noticed that your insult of Mr Winterbottom went "Poof'







David Raymond Amos
Methinks the real problem is the media who promote questionable beancounters N'esy Pas?


Jay Murphy
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: They certainly play a large part in the Dog and Pony show that is politics.














David Smith
Nice to see the elites blame the serfs.
Again.


David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Smith: BINGO
















Bob Gillis
I think its more likely that economists are a bigger part of the problem.


David Raymond Amos 
Reply to @Bob Gillis: Imagine you and I agreeing on something?

















John Bouy
"Voters are tribal, driven by emotion and unmoved by evidence" doesn't that describe political parties also?


James Mittlefehldt
Reply to @John Bouy: A sort of win for my team at all costs.


David Raymond Amos   
Reply to @John Bouy: YUP 


John Horvath
Our democracy is realistically limited to choosing between 2 and a half parties. They say anything to gain your vote, then they go back to serve their real masters and goals, like the SNC scandal has proven so well. The CBC works very hard to prove that we actually only have one good choice: the Liberals...


Bob Gillis
Reply to @John Horvath: The party system doesn't represent us.


David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @Bob Gillis: I concur Hence I always run as a Independent 

 
Cameron David
sounds like the cbc "expert" is angry that the liberals are falling in the polls... what a joke story. Opinion piece passed on as "news"

David Raymond Amos  
Reply to @cameron david: Welcome to the Circus  



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