Trudeau promises more financial supports for seniors — but no independent accounting
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David Raymond Amos
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Methinks if Mr Butts were a wiseguy he would read all the comments and give another Maritimer a call ASAP N'esy Pas?
Dennis Montana This
is how it's going to work....he will implement it in 2024 and phase it
in over the next 5 years so you will re-elect him....so if in 2024
you're 75 you will die before you get the extra $50 a month he's
promised you! Just look at the new and improved CPP benefits? It only
benefits future generations not those who are retiring in the next 3-5
yrs.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dennis Montana: BINGO
David Raymond Amos Methinks
while Trudeau the Younger was in Fat Fred City this week I bet many
senior local political pundits must have recalled my conversation Steve
Murphy on live CTV News as I was running for the seat in the 39th
Parliament in the very snobby town where I went to High School over 50
years ago Anyone can Google the following to review N'esy Pas?
David Amos Youtube Me Myself and I
David Raymond Amos
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Methinks
Mr Butts should stop advising his buddy on how to buy an election with
our money and finally quit politicking N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
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Methinks after all
the news today I would not be a bit surprised to hear Mr Butts claim
that it was all his fault that Trudeau didn't fess up earlier then fall
on his own sword again in order to save his buddy from further
embarrassment N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Methinks
the news today has informed us that Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The
Younger has had his last sunny day in Fat Fred City I suspect he will
lose most of the seats down here in a few weeks No matter how much he
promises the seniors most of them are Conservatives and no doubt they
have had enough of his BS N'esy Pas?
Grace Guanyin
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: You are an independent from Fundy Royal who doesn't even register on the ticket. http://338canada.com/districts/13004e.htm I don't see anyone supporting you. No, you are not running against anyone. No one will waste their time with your class act.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Grace Guanyin: So You Say
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Grace Guanyin: Methinks I heard the same thing when Harper was the boss four long years ago N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Reply
to @Grace Guanyin: Methinks it rather comical that everybody but you
knows that if the NDP and the Rhino Party dudes turn up there will be at
least 8 names on the ballot in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas?
Dennis Montana Reply
to @David Raymond AmosThis seems to be Trudeau's election
platform....blue box promises....recycled promises....he has done
nothing for the middle class....what did I get ?? A 17% tax on my
natural gas bill so I can stay warm in the winter!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Dennis Montana: Exactly
Rest assured that I will be telling them off once again in every debate I am invited to
Pursuant to subsection 71(1) of the Canada Elections Act
Notice of Confirmation of Nomination
Candidate Name: David Amos
Nomination status: Confirmed
Political Affiliation: Indépendant(e)│Independent
Electoral District: Fundy Royal (13004)
Karl
Bueckert This
is a lot more than we'll get out of Scheer. When it comes to the senior
population and especially the poorest population, service workers
whether provincial or federal do not lay out all of the benefits these
people are entitlement to and benefits only start on the day of
application. These changes to financial support are long overdue and
necessary but I also recognize that these service agencies are not being
transparent enough. Harper used this strategy to pretend to giveth but
then taketh away or make it so that the allotted funds are not
accessible because they narrowed the field of who was eligible. These
service agencies are often running with the Harper mindset and this
needs to change! There should be a clear set of benefits available
online or posted on the walls of service centers so that those who are
seniors and the poorest of our nation can see what applies to them. The
secrecy of the Harper years needs more flushing! The overall rates of
OAS and CPP start off too low. A drastic overhaul makes more sense but
this is a good start. There are 2.7 million Canadians over the age of
75 that will benefit and 6.1 million Canadians between 60 and 75 that
need more support as well.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Karl
Bueckert: Methinks you have partaken of too much red kool aid Its fairly
obvious thatr the liberal are trying buy the old folks vote and I
happen to be one of them who is running against him again N'esy Pas?
Allan Baker
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Pretender!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Allan Baker: Google Fundy Royal Debate and you will be suitably embarrassed
Allan Baker
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Who cares!
David Raymond Amos Methinks
Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger should explain to me real slow
why I had to promise to sue his minions before they finally gave up the
money I am entitled to just like every other Senior Canadian Citizen is
N'esy Pas?
Karl Buecker
Reply to @David
Raymond Amos: Every government has the same problem. The government
does not use insurance ...they just say no until you sue. I disagree
with it but it not Trudeau...its the administration of every gov we have
ever had. You will have better luck moving a change proposal thru the
Liberals than the Conservatives. You have to learn the system to
outsmart the bureaucracy. It can be done.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Do you have any idea who I am?
David Evans
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: A P.O.S!
Allan Baker
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Looks like you are a nobody!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Evans: I haved no idea what that means but I suspect that it ain't a nice reply
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Allan Baker: I am more of a man than you dudes in peoplekind are
Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Why is there a petition to have you thrown out of Canada?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Grace Guanyin: Methinks you should ask the RCMP why I mentioned it in my lawsuit N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Grace Guanyin: In case all the political pundits forgot the docket number is T-1557-15 it was filed in Federal Court in Fredericton during the last election Correct?
Peter
Stanley
If he was really
serious about helping seniors it would be implemented at 65 not 75
really doesn't help much - average life span in Canada is 82 - he
cheaped out again and most seniors will not get this - another lame
promise that doesn't help much
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Cassie
Foster
Reply to @Peter Stanley: It targets the seniors who need it the most.
Peter
Stanley
Reply to @Cassie
Foster: Really so age has something to do with needing more? There are
plenty of seniors 65 yrs old who need some real help and did not get
any.
Karl
Bueckert
Reply to @Peter
Stanley: The problem lies in the service agencies who will not go out of
their way to help you source benefits you might be entitled to.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Karl
Bueckert: Methinks that is par for the course for all the lazy unionized
bureaucrats supported by the NDP as they look forward to enjoying
their secure lucrative pension plans in their old age N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Reply
to @Peter Stanley: Methinks everybody In Trudeau's cabinet knows that I
had to threaten to sue the government in order get my entitlements as a
senior Canadian Citizen who is now running for public for the 7th time
because all of our pension investments are overseen by the very corrupt
Yankee SEC N'esy Pas?
Bernie McCann --
Percentage Increases -- Increases calculated on a percentage basis
are totally unfair. A 50% increase on an $100,000.00 income would
(obviously) be $50,000.00. But a 50% increase on a $25,000.00 income
would be $12,500.00. Why should the, already, too rich need a cost of
living increase calculated on a percentage basis ? The cost of their
milk and bread is identical to that for the poor. Thus, the income
difference between the rich and poor continually increases ... and
nobody notices !
Cassie
Foster
Reply to @Bernie McCann: High income earners must contend with OAS recovery tax or “clawback” making your comment mute!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Bernie McCann: True
Pat Graham
I
get a kick out of the fact that this will only be available to those 75
and up. i am 68 and after working for 44 years and not earning enough
to put aside for a private pension i only qualify for basic pension and
supplement. It is only enough to provide for basics and not for repairs
if you own your own home. I have supplemented with my line of credit and
struggle to pay it back.I live in the country and my telephone bill
this month was 183.87 for one fixed line and the slowest so called high
speed internet. Bell is my only option where i live.There are many more
of us below 75 than over 75 trying to make a go of it and failing.
Cassie
Foster
Reply to @pat graham: I
totally agree and for all the years you worked, there should be more
return on your contributions. I am going to guess you don't have a
cellphone because of lack of cell service. You can add an adapter to
your computer and run your phone thru your computer. The initial set up
is about 110 or so and no more payments ...not even annually but if
power goes out or your internet goes out, you lose phone service. Rural
areas have limited assess to competitive options. I suggest to talk to
others in your age group and talk about pensions and gov benefits. If
you are missing out on a program or benefit, service centres will not go
out of their way to let you know. That is wrong! Without knowing all
the options available to you, some miss out on benefits and financial
support they qualify for. I suggest to go to a Liberal Town Hall
meeting in your area and voice your opinion...it is valid and common.
Over 9 million Canadians are over the age of 60. And in 10 year, if we
do not add to our population, Canada's population and economy could
shrink significantly. What I am trying to say is that there are many
who walk in your shoes...you need to connect with them.
Bernie McCann
Reply to @Cassie
Foster: -- "And in 10 year, if we do not add to our population,
Canada's population and economy could shrink significantly."
Obviously, without showing controversial details, Canada's population is, and will, increase.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Cassie
Foster: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger and most of my
political foes know that I had already done everything you suggested
LONG BEFORE i could collect one thin dime of my CPP and OAS N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Bernie McCann: Methinks many Baby Boomers such as I believe the liberal lady doth protest too much N'esy Pas?
David
Evans
I find is most interesting and amusing that Mulroney supports Trudeau and not Scheer!
Grace Guanyin
Reply to @David Evans: I saw that and my jaw dropped.
Karl Bueckert
Reply to @David
Evans: I would like to hear Mulroney tell us why he is against Scheer!
He does owe Canada for creating the worse debt of all PM's!
My7mgt
Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Nope...that honor goes to PET
My7mgt
Reply to @David Evans: They are both part of the Laurentian elites
Cassie Foster
Reply to @my7mgt .:
NOPE...conservatives are always in denial. The conservatives created
75% of Canada's debt. You need a history lesson. Mulroney inherited
200 Billion and turned it into 514 Billion. He, like every conservative
gov, Mulroney also sold off Billions in crows assets and the revenues
lost from those assets are Billions every year.
Anne
Bérubé
Reply to @Cassie Foster: And Trudeau has now given us a beautiful $14 Billion deficit. What is your excuse now?
Cassie Foster
Reply to @Anne
Bérubé: That is pretty good compared to Harper, Mulroney and every other
conservative gov. The conservatives gave Canada 75% of the debt. Why
don't you read and learn instead of regurgitating conservative
confabulations and outrage headlines!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @David Evans: Me Too
David Raymond Amos
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Reply to @Cassie Foster: Methinks you should Google me sometime before you embarrass yourself further N'esy Pas?
Joyce Hope Shortell Trudeau
& the other leaders all promising pie in the sky. Reality will set
in when the looming recession sets in. Most promises will go up in
smoke.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Joyce Hope Shortell: I Wholeheartedly Agree
John
Valcourt A
10% increase at age 75. The prime minister should be ashamed of
himself. That still puts them below the poverty level and far below the
living wage that he preached about. With all the money that seniors have
paid into the CPP and with the investing that was done, they should be
getting around 3000 dollars a month. (math previously done and released
in a report) However the government spent that money didn't they. When
you give away more than you bring in the shortfall has to come from
somewhere.
Cassie Foster
Reply to @John
Valcourt: SH mini-me's plan would be to cause Harper Havock to elderly
pocket books! I agree that seniors are not getting their fair payout!
John Playford
Reply to @John Valcourt: Nobody else is offering anything to seniors so never look a gift horse in the mouth !
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @John Valcourt: Methinks he knows no shame nor does he even care if you believe him or not N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @john
playford: Methinks a wise man would certainly look and check all the
teeth before he votes because his greed for a mere pittance if and when
he turns 75 may do him in in higher taxes etc over the course of the
next 4 years or so N'esy Pas?
Alfred Saville I
think that one of the best things Trudeau did was improve the lot of
the Indigenous/Aboriginal peoples. Harper's government totally ignored
them and the veterans.
Bernie McCann
Reply to @alfred saville: -- Really ! P-p-p-lease !
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Bernie McCann: I second your remark
Cassie Foster I think this term around, Trudeau should give Alberta and the prairie followers the conservative platform they deserve!
Allan Baker
Reply to @Cassie Foster: Brilliant!
Brent
Chambers
Reply to @Cassie
Foster: Harper starved Liberal ridings of Federal support. He really was
sickening! And Scheer, Ford, Kenney...they are all the same! Trudeau
bent over backwards to be equal to all Canadians and Alberta and the
prairies continue to bite their nose off to spite their face. But they
will continue to be sold out by the cons they vote for!
Harold Wood
Reply to @Brent
Chambers: trudeau bends backwards only to Quebec and UN interests.
Canada is at the bottom of his interests until he comes sucking up for
votes.
David Evans
Reply to @Harold Wood: What are they putting in the water in Alberta and prairies....too much gas sniffing!
John Playford
Reply to @David Evans: Alberta is the woe is me province !
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Cassie Foster: Methinks the ghost of Trudeau The Elder is no doubt very fond of you N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Allan Baker: Surely you jest
Karl Bueckert Bitter
bots below! Canada is doing really well and that must burn Harper
Scheer lovers but facts are facts and conservatives only have lies and
an old platform that fails!
Anne Bérubé
Reply to @Karl
Bueckert: So let's start comparing Chretien vs Trudeau now, shall we?
You are doing that with Harper Scheer, but it is not working for you is
it.
Cassie
Foster
Reply to @Anne Bérubé: Chretien has to clean up Mulroney's mess! Trudeau had to clean up Harper's mess! There you go...done!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Methinks everybody knows that I am no bot N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Anne
Bérubé: Methinks folks would enjoy reading the decision of the Federal
Court of Appeal that I am about to put before the Supreme Court 3
Justices actually quoted from the cover letter I sent along with a pile
of documents and a CD to two lawyers (Chretien and Mulroney) while
Gomery was having his big Inquiry in 2004 N'esy Pas?
Google the following and you will find it
David Raymond Amos Mulroney me suing you and your little dogs too
Chris
Rhynold As JT flies from coast to coast on the “ spread the cash tour “.
Is anyone asking , where is the money coming from ??
And a side note , I see an awful lot of liberal campaign signs made of single use plastic .
Karl Bueckert
Reply to @Chris
Rhynold: The signs are not single use...they are recycled. And the
money is coming from corporate taxes and revenues from crown assets not
yet sold off by conservatives to the lowest foreign bidder!
My7mgt
Reply to @Karl Bueckert: So you are stating the LPC is using the government coffers to support their election campaign?
You better report that the Elections Canada
Cassie
Foster
Reply to @my7mgt .: You lack comprehension skills...read a book. Too afraid to post your name?What are you hiding?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Cassie
Foster: Methinks everybody knows my name is the same one that is often
on the ballot in Fundy Royal N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Karl Bueckert: Welcome to the circus
Thomas Albrecht I
can't figure out how taking money out of my pocket for the carbon tax
then giving it back, minus the federal tax , will put more money in my
pocket and have an impact on climate change....not everyone will get
their money back as it is prorated on income....smoke and mirrors
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Thomas Albrecht: Also Methinks the odds aren't very good that most men live past 75 N'esy Pas?
Audrey Fryer Average
annual pension for MP after 10 years service - $100,000.00; Average
pension of Canadian after 50 years service - $7,200.00;
You better try and raise that 10% to at least 50%.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Audrey Fryer: I bet the MPs get many more raises to their pensions first
Mike Smith Is there anyone the liberals have not pledged to assist with money conjured up out of thin air?
Oh yes, the people of Grassy Narrows, Canadian Military Veterans with disabilities and anyone west of Toronto.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mike Smith: BINGO
Jack
Thompson Trudeau up to his old tricks of making promises he can't and won't keep.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Jack
Thompson: Methinks its par for the course BS got him elected last time
Hence if it worked once it should work twice N'esy Pas?
Michael Flinn Liberals can empty the cupboard and promise anything they like - it won't make any difference.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @michael flinn: Methinks it ain't over til the fat lady sings in October N'esy Pas?
Flip Anderson "and lift 20,000 seniors out of poverty."
Sad part is that he had no problem leaving them in poverty for the last 4 years.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Flip Anderson: Oh So True
Terry R Avante In
Oct 2015, Trudeau promised that he would provide costing analysis for
each government bill. Promise broken. He has had four years to help
seniors, veterans and young families. He had four years to address the
cost of living that he caused. Canadians have seen nothing for the
billions of new debt care of the Trudeau government.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Terry R Avante: YUP
Mike Smith JT's promises are worthless, more deficits here we come!!!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Mike Smith: YUP
Phil
Petersen More empty promises. Where are the calls for the Liberals to prove they can deliver?
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Phil
Petersen: All I hear is crickets on thia issue Methinks the media is
more concerns about bad black makeup on Mr Dressup right now N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Wow
a $30 bi weekly increase in OAS at 75!!..better start saving your own
money, don't depend on government, and don't listen to Trudeau.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Hal Bursey: Methinks this is just another liberal joke N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell did trudeau actually answer any questions today. i heard harper 41 times.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks he has answered lot of questions since the New York Times spilled the beans N'esy Pas?
Trudeau promises more financial supports for seniors — but no independent accounting
Justin Trudeau announces boost to Old Age Security, Canada Pension Plan programs
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau talks to a voter in Kitchener, Ont., on Monday, Sept. 16, 2019. (Sean Kilpatrick/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
The Liberals are offering new financial supports for seniors
— but no independent analysis of how much they would cost Canadians.
During
a campaign event in Fredericton, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau
announced that a re-elected government led by him would provide a 10 per
cent boost to Old Age Security (OAS) at age 75 and a 25 per cent
increase to the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) for widows.
According
to the Liberal Party, the OAS increase would give Canadians aged 75 and
older an extra $729 each year and lift 20,000 seniors out of poverty.
The
increase would take effect in July 2020 and would be indexed to keep up
with inflation. The full value of the benefit would be received by
every senior who makes less than $77,580 today.
Widows or
widowers would receive up to $2,080 in additional benefits every year
with the increased survivor's benefit under the CPP and Quebec Pension
Plan (QPP).
Asked if Canadians would be required to pay higher premiums to pay for the increase, Trudeau did not provide a clear answer.
"That's a conversation that we're going to be having with the provinces," he said.
Politics News
Trudeau promises boost to CPP survivor's benefit
When asked if boosting
CPP would require higher premiums, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau says
they would have to discuss it with the provinces. 0:58
Trudeau
said losing a partner is one of the hardest things to endure, and this
added support will help during the period of grief.
"Seniors
have built the Canada that we know and love today. And they deserve to
enjoy their golden years to the fullest," Trudeau said during a campaign
event in Fredericton.
Dan
Kelly, president and CEO of the Canadian Federation of Independent
Business, warned that the boost in CPP could come at a big cost.
"CPP
premiums are already set to rise by 20 per cent over the next few
years. Canadians should be informed of the costs of the new Liberal
Party promise to boost survivors' pensions. This could be a big one and
cost jobs. Also, seven provinces would need to agree before it goes
ahead," Kelly said in a statement to CBC.
One national seniors'
advocacy group applauded the measures. The Canadian Association for
Retired Persons (CARP) said a survey of its members found 64 per cent
were worried about outliving their savings in retirement.
"Seniors
poverty is a growing concern. The Liberals' proposed OAS increase would
make a real difference to Canada's poorest seniors. And the proposed
increase to the CPP survivor benefit is critically important to income
security, especially for widowed women," CARP said in a statement.
According
to background materials, the Liberal Party estimates the OAS increase
would cost $1.63 billion in 2020-21, rising to $2.56 billion in 2023-24.
No independent costing
Costing analysis by the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO) was not provided.
Trudeau is facing criticism for
not providing the independent analysis of Liberal platform commitments,
as the Conservatives and NDP have been doing. Today, he said only some
parts of the platform would be subjected to the PBO's scrutiny.
"We
will be releasing a fully costed, fully responsible platform in the
coming weeks, including all the work done by the Parliamentary Budget
Officer on specific measures," he said.
The Liberals extended
the mandate of the PBO to cost party platforms during election
campaigns.
The Liberals made a campaign promise in 2015 to "help
Canadians make informed decisions during elections" and give Canadians a
"credible, non-partisan way to compare each party's fiscal plans."
All requests for PBO cost analysis come from the parties, and the service is not mandatory.
Something to hide?
But
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Trudeau's decision not to
release costing with each campaign commitment, as his party has done,
shows he has something to hide.
"Obviously the Liberals have a
terrible fiscal record that they are ashamed of," Scheer said during a
campaign event in Hamilton, Ont. "I believe that's why they're not
participating in the very process that they themselves set up."
Politics News
Scheer criticizes Liberals for not costing all promises with PB
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says the Liberals are 'ashamed' of their fiscal track record. 0:21
Asked
if the volume of requests has caused any delay or backlog, Sloane Mask,
PBO's director of parliamentary relations and planning, told CBC this
week the PBO "is meeting the current demand" for requests. The timing of
the release of platform costing is up to the parties, she said.
If
the PBO is unable to complete a cost estimate, the request and the
reason it could not be completed will be published on its website, Mask
said.
Speaking about the new election costing mandate this
spring, PBO Yves Giroux said the initiative will give political parties
more certainty and boost their credibility.
"But the main
advantage will be for Canadians. Canadians will have enhanced
reassurance that there is a non-partisan and professional organization
that provides cost estimates for political parties' engagements," he
said.
'Pretty words'
The NDP criticized Trudeau's
track record on seniors' issues, pointing to thousands of retirees whose
pensions were cut due to a lack of protections after Sears Canada's
bankruptcy, and those seniors now without dental care and prescription
coverage.
"At election time, Justin Trudeau gives us some pretty
words but then gives tax breaks to the rich instead of doing the right
thing for people. We'll protect pensions and take action on prescription
drugs and dental care. That's what seniors deserve," said a statement
from the NDP.
The Conservatives said Liberal policies have made
life less affordable for seniors, citing the carbon tax and the
cancellation of the transit tax credit. Scheer is promising to help
seniors by introducing a universal tax cut, cancelling the carbon tax
and removing the GST from home heating.
"Justin Trudeau cannot
be trusted to deliver for Canadian seniors. In 2015, Trudeau promised
seniors he would create a seniors price index but he did nothing for
four years and abandoned that plan. Now that he needs your vote, he's
making even more promises that he won't keep," said a statement from the
Conservative Party.
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