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Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
https://twitter.com/
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
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Did anybody but me wonder why Wherry updated this article 3 hours ago
and kept the comment section open? Methinks he is covering bases just in case Harper 2.0 wins the next mandate N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/09/why-justin-trudeaus-main-foe-in-2019-is.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-2019-election-andrew-scheer-1.5252988
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-2019-election-andrew-scheer-1.5252988
Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
6125 Comments
I refresh the page 7 hours later to see if the comment section is still open (The last comment was that of Neil Austen I remarked that Harper was still in the closet to mark the spot before I refreshed the page)
6088 Comments
Then I viewed many more comments yet the tally is lower Clearly CBC is deleting many other comments and not just mine.
I added my two bits here and there and now the tally had climbed back up to
6129 Comments
Now its
6077 Comments
6041 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
2 days later they are still editing now its
5724 Comments
3 days later its
5796 Comments
Now Its 5229 Comments and hard to keep up with what comes and goes then comes back
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Reply to @Frank G. Castiglione: Oh So True
Peter Vanderkellin
Justin's REAL main foe is the people of Canada.
We've had it up to here with his L eyes, corruption and crime.
Trudeau must go.
David Amos
Reply to @Peter Vanderkellin: Who is we?
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Reply to @Peter Vanderkellin: You certainly don't speak for me but whether he is a liar or not Trudeau was duly elected to speak for and to all of us until October 21st
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: WOW
Billy Joe
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I will never vote for any politician who is a Catholic by name or more precisely Catholic for convenience but believe in another religion by heart. Due to the stigma associated with certain religion, it will be political suicide for any politician to publicly admit that he is the follower of that religion.
But smart observers can see the telltale signs of it by how strongly the guy defended them, their values, putting their people in important position such as immigration minister and advisors. Then rushing in Millions of them while appeasing them with their religious and cultural needs and PRAY WITH THEM in their worship places. Nobody pray to a god he doesn't believe in.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks every Catholic politician knows why I sued Cardinal Bernard Francis Law in 2002 N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks every Catholic politician knows why I sued Cardinal Bernard Francis Law in 2002 N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: One thing is for certain my political foe in Fundy Royal the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore does. I discussed the matter with him out of the gate in 2004 and our email exchange can be still found on the Internet to this very day.
Reply to @David Amos: One thing is for certain my political foe in Fundy Royal the aptly named lawyer Rob Moore does. I discussed the matter with him out of the gate in 2004 and our email exchange can be still found on the Internet to this very day.
David Amos
WOW What difference an email makes N'esy Pas? Keith Glenday
Reply to @David Amos: Sorry, just curious , I'm linguistically challenged - what does 'N'esy Pas' mean?
David Amos
Reply to @Keith Glenday: Its Chiac Say it like I spelled it
David Amos
Reply to @Keith Glenday: If you still don't understand Just ask Justin's old babysitter Dominic Leblanc what it means. He is the MP for the area where I was born and raised and that is where Chiac lingo is used
Bonnie Maie
Reply to @David Amos: Hey David, who are you kidding? I've been to NB often enough to know that 'N'esy pas' is actually a typo for "n'est pas' (try not to fool the masses). As a francophone, I do know the difference between French & NB 'chiac'!!
R Hebner
Just proves the point that Liberal ideology isn't limited when it comes to stupidity and Conservatives certainly don't hold a monopoly on it although their actions provide more than enough doubt if it weren't for time limited debates.
David Amos
Reply to @R Hebner: Google Fundy Royal Debate and consider voting for an Independent in your riding
Andy Duncan
2015 Trudeau "Budgets balance themselves" Yeah good luck explaining how that one didn't go according to plan.
David Amos
Reply to @Andy
Duncan: Methinks folks should be fair So in Trudeau's defense I will say
that everybody knows the Conservatives grabbed that remark out of
context from a far bigger statement N'esy Pas?
R Hebner
Reply to @Andy Duncan: So, what is your explanation for the Harper deficit and how the balancing act failed according to plan ? Maybe start by asking Tony Clement where the receipts are for the Muskoka spending spree, the Auditor General wants to know.
David Amos
Reply to @R Hebner: Me Too
Bonnie Maie
Reply to @David Amos: here's one for you:
JustIN 2015/JustOUT 2019!
Norm Dixon
Marching in a pride parade or going to a gay bar is great but it doesn't excuse his belief that he is above Canadian law and the Justice system. Corruption is corruption and we have learned that Justin's words and promises are, at best, Hypocritical.
Canada needs to purge this corruption in October.
David Amos
Reply to @Norm Dixon:
What rule of law? Methinks some Liberal lawyer should study Rule 55 of
the Federal Court Rules and try to explain it to me real slow ASAP
N'esy Pas?
R Hebner
Reply to @Norm Dixon: How do you intend to purge Corporate corruption or do you seriously think there are no links ?
David Amos
Reply to @R Hebner: I sued the Queen and ran for public office 6 times thus far. What did you do?
David Amos
"For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform."
Methinks anyone can access the Public Record to review what I said to the Electoral Reform Committee in Fredericton NB just before Thanksgiving in 2016 The Prime Minister would have a hard time arguing my words duly recorded in the Parliamentary Record All political parties can never claim that I did not predict the outcome N'esy Pas?
Curtis Green
The article turned out so well, Aaron, in spite of the nasty headline and byline! I would say that your paycheque is safe...
David Amos
Reply to @Curtis Green: I agree
David Amos
Reply to @Curtis Green: However methinks he did open the door to a blizzard of anti Trudeau comments just before the writ is dropped N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
Did anybody but me wonder why Wherry updated this article 3 hours ago
and kept the comment section open? Methinks he is covering bases just in
case Harper 2.0 wins the next mandate N'esy Pas? David Amos
Reply to @Curtis Green: Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger rolls up his sleeves reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with some semblance of Integrity N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Need I holler BINGO AGAIN???
Bonnie Maie
Reply to @David Amos: I highly doubt JT knows enough about the word 'integrity'!
Joyce Hope Shortell
What is sad is Trudeau's hypocrisy & lack of ethical values yet there are many who will vote for him to lead Canada. Trudeau's virtue signalling is nothing more than smoke & mirrors.
David Amos
Reply to @Joyce Hope
Shortell: Methinks Trudeau must be sad about this comment section not
closing in a timely fashion while his opposition keeps on pounding his
severe lack of ethics before the writ is dropped N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Joyce Hope Shortell: Methinks Mr Butts has read his email from me today by now and is no doubt checking out this comment section as well N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Need I holler BINGO???
John Kenny
Reply to @Joyce Hope Shortell: .shows how mistrusted Scheer is
David Amos
Reply to @John Kenny: Why else would Maxime jump ship?
Bob Barino
OH look Justin just bought some buses.
With the planet having only 10 years left.
Why would he buy buses that will be usable beyond that time?
In GREEN BC of all places
.
Government of Canada invests in reliable bus service in northern British Columbia
SEARCH - /news-releases/government-of-canada-invests-in-reliable-bus-service-in-northern-british-columbia-883110515
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Actions speak louder than words and actions do not require words to determine if one is li-ing.
With the planet having only 10 years left.
Why would he buy buses that will be usable beyond that time?
In GREEN BC of all places
.
Government of Canada invests in reliable bus service in northern British Columbia
SEARCH - /news-releases/government-of-canada-invests-in-reliable-bus-service-in-northern-british-columbia-883110515
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Actions speak louder than words and actions do not require words to determine if one is li-ing.
David Amos
Reply to @Bob Barino: I see no harm in a few buses to serve fellow Canadians
John Smith
Reply to @Bob Barino: usual cyrus blabber.
PS: no one says planet has 10 years left
PPS: buses emit less carbon that cars
PPPS: LOL
John Smith
Reply to @Bob Barino: usual cyrus blabber.
PS: no one says planet has 10 years left
PPS: buses emit less carbon that cars
PPPS: LOL
Bob Barino
Like Macron, Justin Trudeau is nothing more than a UN SHILL.
Trudeau will do as his UN MASTERS dictate with no regard for Canada or Canadians.
OCT-22 is our YELLOW PENCIL DAY
David Amos
Reply to @Bob Barino: Methinks he is just like his Daddy N'esy Pas?
Dean Melanson
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jabberingjustin .... an arrogant ego-fueled prettyboy with a nasty temper who loves throwing around tons of taxpayer $$$ (and elbows), dressing up in foreign countries and demands everything be done his way ... or else .... glad his days are numbered ...
David Amos
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Reply to @Dean Melanson: Methinks the wicked game ain't over until the Fat Lady Sings in October It certainly appears to me that the leaders of Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger's opposition's teams are stuck behind the eight ball while Maxy the lawyer nobody wants to argue is having a Hay Day Its quite a Circus N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Dean Melanson: Methinks the wicked game ain't over until the Fat Lady Sings in October It certainly appears to me that the leaders of Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger's opposition's teams are stuck behind the eight ball while Maxy the lawyer nobody wants to argue is having a Hay Day Its quite a Circus N'esy Pas?
Bob Barino
Trudeau's main foe is the TRUTH
EXPLAIN THIS
.
SEARCH - /2019/09/04/ship-with-climate-change-warriors-caught-in-ice-warriors-evacuated/?via=
.
Maritime Bulletin
Maritime and Crimean Shipping News
Ship with Climate Change Warriors caught in ice, Warriors evacuated
All 16 Climate Change warriors were evacuated by helicopter in challenging conditions, all are safe. 7 crew remains on board, waiting for Coast Guard ship assistance.
Something is very wrong with Arctic ice, instead of melting as ordered by UN/IPCC, it captured the ship with Climate Change Warriors.
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When a maritime report takes a shot at the climate/warming scam is it not time to call it a SCAM.
The poster child of the SCAM an arctic free ice and the ice has been stable or growing ever since the claim was made in 2007.
AND JUSTIN
The polar bears are doing fine. Actually too fine as there are so many they are threatening the Inuit people. UN before Canadian right Mr. NOT SO Prime Minister.
David Amos
Reply to @Bob Barino: Methinks he has hired Anne McLellan to twist the truth for him N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger rolls up his sleeves reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with some semblance of Integrity N'esy Pas?
Sally Ride
This one picture of Justin and Jody speaks volumes about his ability to lead, his leadership style and his moral compass all at once.
David Amos
Reply to @Sally Ride:
Methinks folks have a lot to learn about the Tag Team of Jane and Jody
that Mr Butts will not allow his buddy to talk about yet N'esy Pas?
Pete Prosser
Americans will think we are crazy if we pick Howdy Doody for the new king.....
John Smith
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Reply to @pete prosser: you mean someone that looks exactly like Trudeau's oldest son?
Reply to @pete prosser: you mean someone that looks exactly like Trudeau's oldest son?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @John Smith: Methinks Mr Prosser may be referring to another lapdog for Trump who is often referred to as Harper 2.0 or Harper Lite N'esy Pas?
Reply to @John Smith: Methinks Mr Prosser may be referring to another lapdog for Trump who is often referred to as Harper 2.0 or Harper Lite N'esy Pas?
Grant Mouland
Ultimately I cannot believe that the Canadian public is with left with the option of Justin or Andrew as front runners to lead the country. They both lack maturity, something the country needs at this point. Well here is hoping to a minority government and two new leaders next time around!
David Amos
Reply to @Grant Mouland: Dream on
Billy Joe
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The west including Canada should stop accepting more of their people and strip their religious status in the west, labelled it as a political movement and banned it on the ground of subversion. Outlaw their ideology in the west.
Those who are already here can chose to move to nations where they can continue their practice or staying but not allowed to promote or practice in the west. This way the west can effectively reject their immigrants, stopping their Trojan Horse into the west.
If the table were turned, non-believers were targeting their population for attacks, NONE of the non-believers would be allowed to step foot in their nations let alone getting citizenship, freedom of religion, welfare & benefits like the west are giving them.
The west including Canada should stop accepting more of their people and strip their religious status in the west, labelled it as a political movement and banned it on the ground of subversion. Outlaw their ideology in the west.
Those who are already here can chose to move to nations where they can continue their practice or staying but not allowed to promote or practice in the west. This way the west can effectively reject their immigrants, stopping their Trojan Horse into the west.
If the table were turned, non-believers were targeting their population for attacks, NONE of the non-believers would be allowed to step foot in their nations let alone getting citizenship, freedom of religion, welfare & benefits like the west are giving them.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks you have made it blatantly obvious that you are Conservative on a mission to smother other people's words before the comment section closes N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks you have made it blatantly obvious that you are Conservative on a mission to smother other people's words before the comment section closes N'esy Pas?
Neil Austen
Bottom line - I wouldn't shoot myself in the foot and allow a Conservative party to gain power in Canada just to punish Trudeau. Conservative parties are just Trump-Harper style government pushing fear and anger for power. Just a bunch of yahoos turning Canada into a gong show. Support Conservatives in Canada means you are supporting the following: (all taken from Harper's time as PM)
Decreasing Taxes for the rich.
Deregulating Industries for the sake of the wealthy and at the expense of Canadian health and safety.
Transferring Canadian tax dollars to Isreal.
Eliminating the freedom and privacy of the INTERNET so that it can be controlled and monetized for the wealthy.
The environment is not important and any protection of Canadian waterways and arboreal forests should be rescinded.
Demonizing anyone, religion, political stance, etc that differs from their myopic vision.
Eliminating Canadian Democracy, restricting the democratic process to only those who agree with them.
Warmongering to increase profits for corporations
Women are meant to be at home to cook, clean, and churn out babies only.
You believe in the idea that individuals working for their own greed and selfishness is better than Canadians working together to build a better Canada.
If the above is what you stand for, then yes, you should vote for Conservatives. You deserve what you get. Harper was a disgrace.
Ian Douglas
Reply to @Neil Austen: Better check Harper isn't hiding under your bed with the other monsters.
David Amos
Reply to @Ian Douglas: He is in the closet as usual
Grant Mouland
His hubris and amaturesque need to control everything and everyone has run completely up-stream to everything he purported to be back in 2015.
Grant Mouland
Reply to @Grant Mouland: SB “needed”.
David Amos
Reply to @Grant Mouland: True
Danielle Dalbec
P.S.
We must also not forget, the Admiral and the SNC
David Amos
Reply to @Danielle Dalbec: I didn't Methinks you should Google my name and that of Admiral Norman N'esy Pas?
Danielle Dalbec
Let us not forget the trio of , T, B, and W and the nasties done.
David Amos
Reply to @Danielle Dalbec: Or the Jane and Jody Tag Team
Lee McEachern
Reply to @When you see his sleeves rolled up you know he is going to be working extra hard.
David Amos
Reply to @Lee
McEachern: Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr
Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger rolls up his sleeves reads it and
considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is
dropped. He still has time to act with some semblance of Integrity N'esy
Pas?
: Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr
Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger rolls up his sleeves reads it and
considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is
dropped. He still has time to act with some semblance of Integrity N'esy
Pas?
Ian Douglas
Reply to @David Amos: He wouldn't know how.
Billy Joe
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Reply to @Lee McEachern: More for show only, he has no clue, can't give a speech without script.
Reply to @Lee McEachern: More for show only, he has no clue, can't give a speech without script.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks this is an interesting thread for you to finally respond to N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Ian Douglas: Sad but likely true
Mary Anne Clarke
Aaron--you forgot to mention: the OECD indicating SNC's serious charges made them ineligible for a DPA, but Trudeau chose to meddle in this court case, and that of VA Norman and the shipping issue, and then withheld documents the defense needed for their case; China embargoed Can. canola in Mar. and only in Sept did Trudeau govt approach WTO; in TMX appeal case, Trudeau's govt did not submit arguments, did not even attend the proceedings.
David Amos
Reply to @Mary Anne Clarke: Go Figure
Mike Smith
The liberal energy minister: How and Why?
He must go.
Darin Loso
Reply to @Mike Smith: energy minister, environment Minister, foreign affairs minister, prime minister
Billy Joe
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Reply to @Mike Smith: JT and his entire incompetent clan need to be booted this Oct., should have never been elected in 2015.
David Amos
Reply to @Billy Joe: YUP Your knickers are in quite a knot
David Amos
YO Gerry Butts Methinks you should tell Dominic Leblanc and your buddy from Quebec that you all have mail that you should read before the writ is dropped N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Dominique Leblanc, a Liberal takeing gifts from oil men.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks that is libel N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: can't be libel if it's true. Nesy pis
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: and if it not?
Darin Loso
Reply
to @David Amos: he took the plane flight. Nesy pas, sounds like a gift
to me Nestle Quick. Don't play tough to me, Nesy pis
David Amos
Reply
to @Darin Loso: No need for me to play tough just save the proof and
report you malice. Methinks you should have read about Minister
McKenna's woes and how strict the RCMP are getting about online
harassment before you libeled another liberal lawyer N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: laughable.
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: I seen Climate B story. Don't believe it.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks you are one of Paul Fromm's neo nazi fanboyz N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Looks like a struck a nerve
David Amos
Methinks many folks know why I tweeted and blogged my last comment for tonight before it went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: what is a Nesy Pas
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso:
Chiac It is lingo from where Dominc Leblanc and I come from Say it as I
spell it and you will understand it
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: the Liberal that gets favors from billionaire oil company executives. Joe can that be?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: how can that be
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso:
Google Fundy Royal Debate to see why I am running for public office for
the 7th time while suing the Queen again
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos:
if you are running for office for the 7th time you are not right for
politics. After time 3 you think you would see the writing on the wall.
People don't like you
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: Nesy Pas
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso:
Methinks everybody knows my Father knew Dominic's daddy long before he
was appointer Attorney General. Trust that everybody knows my Father
sent the Sheriff down to put a chain on the gates of the Irving Clan's
Refinery in order to make him pay his property taxes N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: I thinks people in the Maritimes who vote Liberal is what is wrong with this country.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso:
Methinks you know who I am correct? After my Father died my Mother
married the Chief Electoral Officer Plus my Brother in Law's law firm
partner and Vice President of the PC Party assisted Peter MacKay in
merging with Harper's party at the very same point in time that Spitzer
was testifying before the US Senate Banking Commitee and thanking me for
the info N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso:
Even you know why I run as an Independent and it has nothing to do with
getting elected and everything to do with very serious litigation
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: are you the little girl who held up the sign Stop Harper in the HOC.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Methinks you just made yourself rather infamous byway of my Twitter account N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso:
Nope but I did know Kevin Vickersin a past life. Everybody knows the
RCMP used to hire me back in the 70s and 80s Ask Wayne Easter or Ralph
Goodale or Peter Van Loan or Stockwell day about that Some things I did
are still secret N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: I don't do Twitter
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: who cares
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Remember in June of 2004 after Harper got back from theMaritimes he
announced that he had info the Arar Inquiry and Jack hooper of CSIS said
he didn't know anything about it. Well Anne McLellan and Justice
Richard Bell and Ward Elcock certainly did N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: YOU do
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: your day has come and gone. Clean your dentures Ang good night. Nesy pas
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: You registered with a Crown Corp with that name and an IP address N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: bring it on
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Your wish is my command
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: I've seen your posts here before. All talk
Darin Loso
Reply to @Darin Loso: I've sad a lot about Justin here over the years, nobody had come knocking
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Post your address and I will turn up one day
David Amos
Reply
to @David Amos: Methinks the RCMP and the Edmonton Cops will never
forget the time I went to Barry Winters' door then inserted his words
about Justin Trudeau and I in the the lawsuit against the Crown in 2015
N'esy Pas?
Darin Loso
Reply to @David Amos: with your walker and air tank.
David Amos
Reply to @Darin Loso: Whats your address Mr Tough Talker?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Feel free to look me up. Methinks as you sit in your parents' basement
you are just clever enough to know that anyone can get my info from
Election Canada or at the bottom of my lawsuits N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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Smith put it the best way regarding JT’s involvement in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
Smith: Trudeau is guilty again, but don’t expect any consequences
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/smith-trudeau-is-guilty-again-but-dont-expect-any-consequences/ar-AAGdTcK?li=AAggFp5
Still, it remains shocking that violating the Conflict of Interest Act carries no penalties, especially when you consider the consequences in other cases of ethical lapses.
An expense claim scandal saw Sen. Mike Duffy charged with 31 counts of fraud — and although he was ultimately found not guilty of all charges, he went through a three-year ordeal of hearings, RCMP investigation, a criminal trial and suspension from the Senate.
Former MP Dean Del Mastro overcontributed $21,000 of his own money to his re-election campaign, exceeding the $92,567 spending cap. He went to jail.
The prime minister has been found guilty of breaching the Conflict of Interest Act for the second time, using his position of authority over Wilson-Raybould to influence her decision to intervene in a criminal prosecution, violating the principles of prosecutorial independence and the rule of law. There is no fine. No charges. No trial. No resignation. No public inquiry. Not even an independent parliamentary committee investigation.
Smith put it the best way regarding JT’s involvement in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
Smith: Trudeau is guilty again, but don’t expect any consequences
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/smith-trudeau-is-guilty-again-but-dont-expect-any-consequences/ar-AAGdTcK?li=AAggFp5
Still, it remains shocking that violating the Conflict of Interest Act carries no penalties, especially when you consider the consequences in other cases of ethical lapses.
An expense claim scandal saw Sen. Mike Duffy charged with 31 counts of fraud — and although he was ultimately found not guilty of all charges, he went through a three-year ordeal of hearings, RCMP investigation, a criminal trial and suspension from the Senate.
Former MP Dean Del Mastro overcontributed $21,000 of his own money to his re-election campaign, exceeding the $92,567 spending cap. He went to jail.
The prime minister has been found guilty of breaching the Conflict of Interest Act for the second time, using his position of authority over Wilson-Raybould to influence her decision to intervene in a criminal prosecution, violating the principles of prosecutorial independence and the rule of law. There is no fine. No charges. No trial. No resignation. No public inquiry. Not even an independent parliamentary committee investigation.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks whereas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger hired the lawyer Anne McLellan to advise him months ago by now she must have noticed her letter to me and another from the Governor circa 2004 They were quoted verbatim within the very first paragraphs of my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) which I filed when Harper was the PM and answered by Pater MacKay's minions before polling day 2015 N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks whereas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger hired the lawyer Anne McLellan to advise him months ago by now she must have noticed her letter to me and another from the Governor circa 2004 They were quoted verbatim within the very first paragraphs of my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) which I filed when Harper was the PM and answered by Pater MacKay's minions before polling day 2015 N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Here are some old documents of mine the prove what I say is true
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Reply to @Billy Joe: Here are some old documents of mine the prove what I say is true
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Billy Joe
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Trudeau failed and continues to fail Canada and Canadians....
“I am committed to leading an open, honest government that is accountable to Canadians, lives up to the highest ethical standards, brings our country together, and applies the utmost care and prudence in the handling of public funds.
Thank you for having faith in me. Thank you for putting your trust in our team.
We will not let you down.”
Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau, P.C, M.P.
Prime Minister of Canada
And he did just the opposite of everything he promised. Ethic violations, breaking campaign promises, piling up Hundred of Billions of debt in short 4 years with majority went to foreigners (refugees, illegals) and UN. Kick JT out in Oct. to save Canada from bankruptcy and demographic change for the worse.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methnks you must be a bot N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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They should include the price tag on tax payers for EACH refugee or illegal migrant accepted into Canada. To name a few, $250 PER NIGHT hotel accommodation, Permanent housing, Food, Medical & Dental care, WELFARE, Education, LEGAL FEES of processing their claims (e.g. $350 per hour lawyer fees), Unlimited taxis rides and miscellaneous costs in Major Expensive Canadian cities and ALL the above expenses for INFINITE Length of time. Above all, they are allowed to sponsor Unlimited number of their relatives to come over to join the above feast funded by tax payers. ---> Costing us Tens of Billions.
No wonder everyone who has the means would use every conceivable way to get into Canada, like one guy told me, a single unemployed person on welfare here is getting TEN TIMES more money on welfare check than a full time employed professional from his homeland. And that is not including the benefits of free housing, medical, education etc... Vote JT out to stop the influx of illegals to drain our welfare & resources.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks nobody types that fast and thinks about what they are writing at the same time N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks nobody types that fast and thinks about what they are writing at the same time N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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Forget about negative articles on Trump, Ford, Scheer and PPC parties, what's JT going to do with the disasters he had done to Canada costing us Hundred of Billions with majority went to foreigners? His broken promise on electoral reform? His broken promise on $10 Billions per year debt now more than tripled to $35 Billions a year? His open border allowing Hundreds of Thousands of illegals to cross into Canada? Poor diplomatic relation ship with several nations including USA, Russia, India, China, Saudi Arabia and etc...
So far he has addressed NONE of the the above. Smearing other politicians does not make JT a better candidate. We may not know the performance of other candidates, but we have seen the disaster performance of JT and we can not afford another 4 years of that and be a laughing stock of the world.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe:
Methinks your are not very diplomatic if you do not bother to read the
replies to you and respond N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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JT has done a "great" job in broadcasting to the world, Canadian tax payers will foot the bills of everyone and anyone in the world who want to come feast on our welfare for life, free health care, free pensions, free housing and free everything. Vote JT out in Oct. to stop the influx of freeloaders.
Palestinian refugees in Lebanon want asylum in Canada
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/palestinian-refugees-in-lebanon-want-asylum-in-canada/ar-AAGR3yx?li=AAggXBV
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks at least your hero Trump is correct about MSN and Fake News N'esy Pas?
Garry Hiebert
I doubt Justin would vote for Justin.
David Amos
Reply to @Garry Hiebert: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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There's no misleading. JT did give away $675 Millions tax payers' money to the news media. One look at CBC is all we need to know, negative news on Ford, Scheer, Bernier, and even Trump to help divert Canadians' attention from JT's incompetency and the disasters he has done costing us Hundred of Billions in 4 years. Vote JT out this Oct.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks the cat must have your tongue or you simply don't wish to reply to other folks for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks the cat must have your tongue or you simply don't wish to reply to other folks for political reasons N'esy Pas?
Simon Jonas
Scheer is not Harper.
But
Trudeau is still Trudeau.
And that is not a good thing for Canada.
David Amos
Reply to @Simon Jonas: Methinks there is good reason why folks call Scheer Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks Mr Wherry's headline says enough Heres hoping Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger reads it and considers it deeply for the benefit of us all before the writ is dropped. He still has time to act with Integrity N'esy Pas?
Simon Jonas
Reply to @David Amos:
Sorry--that time has passed.
Out with him!
David Amos
Reply to @Simon Jonas: Methinks you should never lose your faith in peoplekind N'esy Pas?
David Lugli
we have seen the enemy and it is us
David Amos
Reply to @david lugli: Methinks Walt Kelly was not joking N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @david lugli: Here are some old documents of mine the prove what I say is true
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
David Amos
Methinks whereas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger hired the lawyer Anne McLellan to advise him months ago by now she must have noticed her letter to me and another from the Governor circa 2004 They were quoted verbatim within the very first paragraphs of my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) which I filed when Harper was the PM and answered by Pater MacKay's minions before polling day 2015 N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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Despite how desperately the Liberals tried to paint Scheer as Harper, Scheer IS NOT Harper BUT JT is still JT, unfortunately Canadians have already seen the disasters JT done to us & our nation.
Here are just a few of the Hundreds of his negatives:-
1) Hundred of Billions of debt in 4 years with majority went to foreigners,
2)Ethic violations and conflict of interests in SNC-Lavalin scandals & Aga Khan vacation,
3)Allowing and CONTINUE to allowing Hundreds of Thousands of illegals crossing into Canada while give them 5 stars celebrity treatment +++ Hundreds of Thousands of ME refugees ---> Costing us Tens of Billions.
4)Incompetent & poor handling with international diplomatic relationship with USA, China, Russia, KSA, India.
While NO money for Canadian vets and cut our health care funding. Put Canada & Canadians last on the list.
We may not have seen the performance of other candidate but we definitely can not afford another 4 years of JT and his incompetent clan. Vote JT out to save Canada from bankruptcy, laughing stock of the world and demographic change for the worse by his post-national state goal, Canadistan
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe:
Clearly you are not watching the same news i am I have seen Scheer admit
that his a lot like Harper when he was questioned. Methinks that is why
a lot of folks call him Harper 2.0 or Harper Lite etc N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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JT staged jogging while in France attending G7 summit for photo ops? Why not take off his shirt while he is at it ? More embarrassment for Canadians, Oct. 2019 can't come soon enough for Canadians to get rid of JT.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Methinks this JT dude has put your knickers in quite a knot N'esy Pas?
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @David Amos: Hahaha :)
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: He was on quite a roll
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: He was on quite a roll
Billy Joe
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The 7 nations (including Canada) in the G7 Summit agreed to donate a total sum of $20 Millions to help Brazil battle the Amazon fires, BUT JT volunteers to give EXTRA $15 MILLIONS on top of the contributions he already pledged in the G7 agreed sum of $20 Millions from Canada to Brazil.
Not getting enough attention at G7 and want to get some attention?? Why doesn't he cough up the money from his own foundation if he wants to look good on world stage? Again, self-image promotion on tax payers' dime. Canadians can not afford another 4 years of JT's unlimited spending on foreigners.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: As I recall, Brazil rejected the offer of financial assistance and demanded an apology that wasn't warranted.
Reply to @Billy Joe: As I recall, Brazil rejected the offer of financial assistance and demanded an apology that wasn't warranted.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I believe you are correct
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I believe you are correct
Billy Joe
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Why should western nations open their borders and allowing Unlimited, Uncontrolled, Unvetted illegals to flood in ? Would the ME nations, Japan, Korea, or for that matter any non-western nations allow the same? In fact, try entering any of the non-western nations without proper documents see what you would get?
How come UN only pushed Tens of Millions of ME refugees into western nations where religious & cultural conflicts existed instead of to the rich ME nations where there is no religious & cultural conflicts? But of course, every nation knows that refugees cost Tens of Billions, drain resources, finances, chaos, disharmony in the host nations, UN knows that the west is soft in their policies will get saddled with them.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Canada has a highly selective immigration programme.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Surely you jest
Billy Joe
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Under JT, the so-called Selective immigration program for ME migrants only.
Billy Joe
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What kind of support do refugees (border jumpers), illegal migrants get?
greeting at the airport or the border
temporary housing, then permanent housing
personal finance help
Canada provides income support
household start-up allowance, and
monthly income support payment.
Financial support can last up to one year after a refugee arrives in Canada, or until they can support themselves
.....straight from the gov't of canada website.......
So is it any wonder why anyone who has the resources of getting to our border would want to miss this golden opportunity of entering our nation with instant welfare & benefits for life and without having to pay for legal applications, wait for long period of time and the high risks of getting rejected? Kick JT out to stop Hundreds of Thousands of Unvetted illegals EVERY YEAR flooding into our nation, draining our resources, welfare, benefits and competing for health services with Canadians
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: At least you can find the Government of Canada website.
Reply to @Billy Joe: At least you can find the Government of Canada website.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Everybody know I certainly can. Methinks if folks wish to laugh and cry find the federal court rules and scroll down to Rule 55 N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Everybody know I certainly can. Methinks if folks wish to laugh and cry find the federal court rules and scroll down to Rule 55 N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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JT's immigration policy of flooding Canada over One Million foreigners Each year is like opening the floodgates ...when one family member comes the entire clan is sure to follow! Also why the need to overpopulate Canada and destroy what natural beauty is left. (Each year JT allows 350,000 legal migrant, 500,000 foreign workers, 200,000 foreign students, and Unlimited illegals ---> ALL are welcome to stay and apply for PR and sponsor unlimited relatives over)
Look at any country with overpopulation issues...what do you see? Cities with endless slums, raw sewage running in trenches, dire poverty, garbage and litter everywhere, polluted water, polluted air, lack of green space, the list goes on and on. Not to mention increases in crimes, diseases, conflicts, competing for health services and all other services, draining resources, increasing usages on welfare, EI, pensions and etc....
When you bring in folks who cannot function in a world so different from their own, they don't acclimate, they wallow in the social net that is created by soft government. If the media and government says there are a 1000, you can bet there are five times that. We will never know the true stats because government does not want Canadians to know what it costs us.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Unless you are an aboriginal, you are a foreigner in this country even if your parents were citizens. Fact is, all of us have come from somewhere.
Reply to @Billy Joe: Unless you are an aboriginal, you are a foreigner in this country even if your parents were citizens. Fact is, all of us have come from somewhere.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Nay not so
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Nay not so
Billy Joe
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JT has accepted Hundreds of Thousands of ME refugees PLUS allowing Hundreds of Thousands of illegals to cross into Canada in the last 4 years, PLUS Tens of Thousands of private sponsored refugees which after 1 year will become the liabilities of tax payers ---> Costing us Tens of Billions.
We have done 100x more than other nations have done when UN had originally only asked Canada to accept 10,000 refugees over 10 years. Time to step back and help our own Canadians. Enough is enough, Canada can't save the whole world. Canada desperately needs a PM who would put Canadians’ best interests as top priorities instead of foreigners & UN first.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: The Government of Canada accepted refugees. Your numbers for illegal immigration are wildly exaggerated.
Reply to @Billy Joe: The Government of Canada accepted refugees. Your numbers for illegal immigration are wildly exaggerated.
David Amos
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Brittan: Methinks you forgot all the people walking around the border
guards by the thousands for years and being arrested by the RCMP then
given a a place to stay etc N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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CBC recently posted an article on the homeless people in Canada, how they were pushed out of shelters...we are running out of shelters.....
Majority of these homeless people are probably disadvantage poor Canadians who were pushed out of shelters after the arrival of ME refugees and illegals welcome by JT in Hundreds of Thousands.
Remember how JT was putting up the ME refugees and illegals in 4 or 5 stars hotels of major cities with bottomless spending funds? Then later give them permanent large homes since most of them (ME refugees) have large double digits number of children?
JT would never allowed his rushed in ME refugees & illegals to live on the streets because it would tarnish his world image and will offend the UN. So these poor homeless people are probably local Canadians.
If we do not have enough shelters, facilities for those already in our nation, we should not accept more refugees, illegal migrants to put more strain to our system.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: We never had enough shelters, under any administration Conservative or Liberal.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I could collect my CPP or my old Age pension until I sued the Queen because they deleted my SIN
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I could collect my CPP or my old Age pension until I sued the Queen because they deleted my SIN
Billy Joe
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I have a suggestion for those Canadians who support JT's unending spending on foreigners, refugees, illegals, UN, carbon taxes and etc... Please volunteer to pay Triple amount of income tax every pay period to help pay for the above expenses caused by JT, even better, take in a family of 12 ME refugees or illegals to live with you and pay for ALL their expenses for life or until they can fend for themselves.
JT piled up $150 Billions debt in short 4 years with VAST MAJORITY went to foreigners & UN ($35 - $40 Billions per year debt + another $30 Billions to support the Hundreds of Thousands of ME refugees, Illegal migrants, elderly relatives, he imported in). Canadians can not afford another 4 years of JT and his incompetent clan.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: A debt of 150 billion is chicken feed.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: So you say
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: So you say
Billy Joe
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JT doesn't give 2 hoots about Canada or Canadians, his main purposes of wanting the PM position is to have unlimited excess to our tax dollars to import his future voters, to impress the UN, to look good on world stage, to purchase the UN council seat, to have unlimited expensive luxury vacations all over the world traveling in style all paid by tax payers and to enjoy the power and privileges come with the position, to mingle with the rich, famous and powerful people.
The ONLY time he focused on Canadians is election time, because he needs their votes to stay in power and to continue to enjoy the above. But "if" he gets re-elected, he will go right back to his old self with policies focusing on himself and ignoring Canadians for another 4 years. Only fools will fall for him again this Oct.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Now, you are repeating yourself. All politicians seeking the highest office are driven by power. There are no exceptions, except Tommy Douglas.
Reply to @Billy Joe: Now, you are repeating yourself. All politicians seeking the highest office are driven by power. There are no exceptions, except Tommy Douglas.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Methinks you wish to forget the best PM of them all R.B Bennett N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Methinks you wish to forget the best PM of them all R.B Bennett N'esy Pas?
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All JT is good at is in spending tax payers' money on foreigners to make himself look good on world stage, to import his future voters, to impress the UN and for his own self-serving, self-indulgent purposes. He doesn't give 2 hoots about Canadians, ONLY at election time, when he needs Canadians votes to keep him in power, he would "say" something to impress Canadians, but once elected, he will go back to his old way, himself and foreigners first, ignoring Canadians.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: When did you acquire the notion that politicians 'give 2 hoots about Canadians?' That has never been their prime concern.
Reply to @Billy Joe: When did you acquire the notion that politicians 'give 2 hoots about Canadians?' That has never been their prime concern.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Oh So True
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Oh So True
Billy Joe
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Spending money is easy, especially when spending someone else’s money. Making money and Saving money are a lot harder, often required smart thinking and restraint on spending. This is the problem with electing someone who comes from money, never have to worry about making money or saving money and have no restraint on spending.
Old habits died hard, we are seeing the exact same pattern of behavior he brought with him after he took office, except that he can now afford to spend more since he has access to a much larger account, tax payers’ funds than his personal one. And enjoy the Power, Privileges and Attentions comes with the position. Obviously has no respect for tax payers money, Canada should have a governing policy in place where the leader can not spend tax payers money at any way they like, all the expenses must go though and approved by members of the parliament and the senate committee. Vote JT out this Oct.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Every government, at least since the end of WWII, has been rightly accused of over-spending.
Reply to @Billy Joe: Every government, at least since the end of WWII, has been rightly accused of over-spending.
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Methinks until Trudeau the Elder came along we had hardly any national debt whatsoever N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Methinks until Trudeau the Elder came along we had hardly any national debt whatsoever N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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Despite how much JT missed his youth years by always wearing tight fitting shirt and pants trying to project himself as a young person hoping to capture the votes from young voters, he is a middle-aged man turning 48 by Dec. 2019 with 3 children. Smart young voters should be looking at the Hundred of Billions of debt he piled on them in the short 4 years with majority went to foreigners and foreign nations. With all the scandals and ethic violations, he does not fit or deserve to be our PM. Vote him and his incompetent clan out in Oct.
Despite how much JT missed his youth years by always wearing tight fitting shirt and pants trying to project himself as a young person hoping to capture the votes from young voters, he is a middle-aged man turning 48 by Dec. 2019 with 3 children. Smart young voters should be looking at the Hundred of Billions of debt he piled on them in the short 4 years with majority went to foreigners and foreign nations. With all the scandals and ethic violations, he does not fit or deserve to be our PM. Vote him and his incompetent clan out in Oct.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: He may have increased the budget deficit, as Harper did but the debt won't be paid completely by any PM, from any party, without substantial, painful economic dislocation.
Reply to @Billy Joe: He may have increased the budget deficit, as Harper did but the debt won't be paid completely by any PM, from any party, without substantial, painful economic dislocation.
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I strongly disagree Methinks the solution is incredibly simple and many agree N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I strongly disagree Methinks the solution is incredibly simple and many agree N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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We can be sure of anything and everything JT does has to do with the followings on Tax payers' dime:-
1) Buying and Increasing his voter base
2) Improving his self-image on world stage
3) Chances of mingling with the rich, famous, powerful people
4) Tons of photo ops
5) Luxury Expensive Family vacations around the world
6) Will do anything at any cost with tax payers’ dime to increase his chance of getting the UN council position.
7) Flooding Canada with 3rd worlders with majority Muslim migrants to speed up his agenda of making Canada a post-national state with No core identity and No main stream. Canadistan.
8) Corruption and Scandals --> to help his big business buddies
9) Taxing Canadians to death (Carbon & CSF taxes) to fund his foreigner pet projects. (ME refugees, Illegal migrants)
10) Breaking his 2015 campaign promises on electoral reforms, Tripled the annual debts from $10 Millions per year to $35 Millions per year....
AND ENDLESS NEGATIVE ACTIONS he took against the will of majority Canadians....The well being of Canada and Canadians is last on the list or not existed.
Spending Hundreds of Billions on foreigners and foreign nations while cutting Canadian health care funds and Veterans’ funds. Because helping foreigners fetches him more credit on world stage than helping Canadians. Vote him out in Oct. 2019.
We can be sure of anything and everything JT does has to do with the followings on Tax payers' dime:-
1) Buying and Increasing his voter base
2) Improving his self-image on world stage
3) Chances of mingling with the rich, famous, powerful people
4) Tons of photo ops
5) Luxury Expensive Family vacations around the world
6) Will do anything at any cost with tax payers’ dime to increase his chance of getting the UN council position.
7) Flooding Canada with 3rd worlders with majority Muslim migrants to speed up his agenda of making Canada a post-national state with No core identity and No main stream. Canadistan.
8) Corruption and Scandals --> to help his big business buddies
9) Taxing Canadians to death (Carbon & CSF taxes) to fund his foreigner pet projects. (ME refugees, Illegal migrants)
10) Breaking his 2015 campaign promises on electoral reforms, Tripled the annual debts from $10 Millions per year to $35 Millions per year....
AND ENDLESS NEGATIVE ACTIONS he took against the will of majority Canadians....The well being of Canada and Canadians is last on the list or not existed.
Spending Hundreds of Billions on foreigners and foreign nations while cutting Canadian health care funds and Veterans’ funds. Because helping foreigners fetches him more credit on world stage than helping Canadians. Vote him out in Oct. 2019.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: He does what politicians do.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: True
Billy Joe
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Incompetent leader hired incompetent ministers = Poor management of all aspects of government. Hiring ministers based on ethnicity, religion, race and gender instead of based on experience and merit. But if one does not want to be challenged by capable intelligent people and does not want to be outshine, one would hire people less competent than himself. Canada needs to get rid of JT and his incompetent clan to save us from bankruptcy and from demographic change for the worse, Canadistan.
Geoffrey Brittan
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David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Methinks you should check my work sometime Google Fundy Royal Debate when you are bored then simple Google my name You may understand me N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: Methinks you should check my work sometime Google Fundy Royal Debate when you are bored then simple Google my name You may understand me N'esy Pas?
Billy Joe
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What about JT stipulated that federal funding would only be granted to organizations which must confirm their support of his view on the right for abortion? Abuse of power and dictatorial. Canada is a free country, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion on abortion, JT has no right to use federal funding (tax payers' money) to coerce organizations to obey him.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Are you so sure that Canada is a 'free country?'
Reply to @Billy Joe: Are you so sure that Canada is a 'free country?'
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I know that it isn't
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I know that it isn't
Billy Joe
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Smart Canadians would not want to endure another term of an Arrogant, Egotistical, Incompetent, Narcissistic, Dictatorial, Authoritarian, Selfish, Shameless, Zero Integrity, Self-Serving, Self-Indulgent, Self-image world promoting guy whose policies/actions do not put the well being of Canada and Canadians as priority. Vote JT out in Oct. 2019 to save Canada from bankruptcy, destruction by demographic change for the worse and increase security risks of our people due to the influx of Uncontrolled, Unlimited Unvetted Illegals.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Politicians put their careers first. You would do the same thing, if you won an election.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I would not
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For the 4 years since JT took office, his focus has always been on foreigners, UN, his self-interests and self-image promotion on world stage, Canada & Canadians are last on his list.
Now that election time is near, his realized that he needs Canadians' votes to keep him at his Billionaire life style which he has grown accustomed to in the last 4 years with unlimited tax payers' money to spend on whoever and whatever he likes. He would "say" anything to get re-elected, once he got elected, he would go right back to ignoring Canadians. Only fools would fall for it again. Canadians' main focus should be voting JT out this Oct.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Politicians, of every political stripe, 'say anything' to win an election.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I have no stripe
Billy Joe
Want infinite number of Illegal migrants and ME refugees costing Tens of Billions? Vote JT.
Want a PM who broke almost ALL his campaign promises and carried out actions against the wish of majority Canadians ? Vote JT.
Want a PM who does not respect the rule of law and tax payers, multiple ethic violations? Vote JT.
Want more $$$ to foreigners such as $55 Millions to Aga Khan and Tens of Billions to UN? Vote JT.
Want a PM whose only agendas are self-serving, self-indulgent and self-image promotion ? Vote JT.
Want a PM who put Canada and Canadians last on his list of priorities ? Vote JT.
Want more scandals, corruptions and embarrassment on world stage ? Vote JT.
Want more $10.5 Millions rewards to Khadr and his likes ? Vote JT.
Want more Carbon taxes, cut to health care funds & Canadian vets? Vote JT.
Want more bad international relationship with nations such as USA, Russia, China, KSA, ? Vote JT.
The list of NEGATIVES ARE ENDLESS with JT, while we might not know the performance of others but we have seen the disasters, unethical behavior, the Hundred of Billions he piled up in 4 short years with majority went to foreigners. Vote JT and his incompetent clan out in Oct. 2019.
David Amos
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Yawn
Reply to @Billy Joe: Yawn
Billy Joe
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One poster put it the best way:-
I can’t believe that there are people still willing to give Justin Trudeau another chance. He has proven that he is not qualified for the job. He has proven that he does not respect the Rule of Law. He has shown that he does not respect taxpayers.
Geoffrey Brittan
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Reply to @Billy Joe: Don't expect a Conservative PM to rise any higher in your expectations.
David Amos
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Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Reply to @Geoffrey Brittan: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
David Amos
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Methinks Billy Joe may have set some kind of record in CBC for posting 20 comments in a row long after closing time N'esy Pas?
Kevan Cleverbridge (Hill 70)
You got that right Aaron,Justin Trudeau is Justin Trudeau's worst enemy. He has proven himself unworthy of the office he currently holds,one and done.
David Amos
Reply to @Kevan
Cleverbridge (Hill 70): Methinks after the provocative headline this
article takes a huge swing to support the Prime Minister N'esy Pas?
Lee McEachern
The only thing he has been good at as PM for the past 4 years is attending parades.
David Amos
Reply to @Lee
McEachern: Methinks you forgot that he enjoys wearing strange costumes
and taking selfies to keep us laughing until the next polling day N'esy
Pas?
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
A person that never had to worry about money put in charge of your bank account is sure to spend it because he never had to work for it. Four years and deeper in debt.
Celeste Lang
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): agreed. Apparently Justin does not have authority over his own trust fund yet. Even his parents knew, at 48, he wouldn’t be responsible enough. And the guy has our collective credit card....
Brent Johnston
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): We need term limits or this can go on longer than we can survive.
Steve Wilson
Reply to @carl tyrell
{dit antaya): ... so you must have been very angry that the previous
Conservative government put us further into debt by an average of $17.2
billion each and every year for 9 consecutive years not including the
one surplus that the Auditor general revised as a $4.2 billion deficit.
Harper was the worst PM, fiscally speaking, since Mulroney!
Harper was the worst PM, fiscally speaking, since Mulroney!
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
Reply to @steve
wilson: Really you need to analyze what happened because PET started
the debt clock in fast forward and Mulroney had to account for the
carrying charges of PET so a bit of quadratic math is required
Tony Hill
Reply to @steve wilson: "including the one surplus that the Auditor general revised as a $4.2 billion deficit."
It wasn't the Auditor General that revised it, it was the new government that backdated a change in accounting that revised the surplus. This resulted in a $1.9B surplus reported for 2014/15 (the full year the Conservatives were in power) to become a deficit of $0.6B.
Backdating changes over the previous 10 years for an accounting change is very abnormal. Normally governments only backdate changes for 1 year to allow for an apples-to-apples comparison. Going back 10 years was done purely for political purposes.
For what it is worth the change had to do with the guess as to the future value of government pension funds. No one can possibly know how much current pension plan assets will be worth in the future when they are required, but governments have developed metrics to guess at them. The key metric used was long term government of Canada bond rates. We used to look to the past to guess at future bond rates, but bond rates have declined substantially over the past 35 years or so and are unlikely to go back up. So now we only use the most recent year's bond rates, which is much lower than the historical average and therefore the future value of assets is lower. This means we have a bigger gap between assets and liabilities, therefore a bigger deficit.
The accounting change probably makes sense, interest rates aren't likely to spike back up to the 5 or 6% range anytime soon. However, backdating that change to 2008/09 was purely a political move.
It wasn't the Auditor General that revised it, it was the new government that backdated a change in accounting that revised the surplus. This resulted in a $1.9B surplus reported for 2014/15 (the full year the Conservatives were in power) to become a deficit of $0.6B.
Backdating changes over the previous 10 years for an accounting change is very abnormal. Normally governments only backdate changes for 1 year to allow for an apples-to-apples comparison. Going back 10 years was done purely for political purposes.
For what it is worth the change had to do with the guess as to the future value of government pension funds. No one can possibly know how much current pension plan assets will be worth in the future when they are required, but governments have developed metrics to guess at them. The key metric used was long term government of Canada bond rates. We used to look to the past to guess at future bond rates, but bond rates have declined substantially over the past 35 years or so and are unlikely to go back up. So now we only use the most recent year's bond rates, which is much lower than the historical average and therefore the future value of assets is lower. This means we have a bigger gap between assets and liabilities, therefore a bigger deficit.
The accounting change probably makes sense, interest rates aren't likely to spike back up to the 5 or 6% range anytime soon. However, backdating that change to 2008/09 was purely a political move.
David Amos
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): Oh So True Methinks many folks will recall his statement that the budget would balance itself. However to be fair to Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger I suspect that his words were taken from a much larger statement then spun by the Conservative attack machine. My reasoning is simple. Nobody is that dumb. Furthermore even my fellow Maritimer the not so clever Mr Butts would never allow such nonsense to be stated by a Quebecker whether he was his boss or not N'esy Pas?
Carl Tyrell {dit antaya)
Reply to @David Amos:
In all fairness, if a budget has been achieved through mathematics, by
following it , it should balance itself but you have to follow the plan.
The old saying work your plan and plan your work it's that simple
The old saying work your plan and plan your work it's that simple
David Amos
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{dit antaya): Methinks if you were to Google me you would see that Mr
Butts and the Jane and Jody Tag Team know that I have a plan N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @carl tyrell {dit antaya): Trust that I have a plan
Eddy Lew
A long winded article supporting the obvious conclusion that Trudeau is the worst pm of all time.
Stan Danke
Reply to @Eddy Lew: Yes, but with the usual shots at conservatives for 'balance'
David Amos
Reply to @Eddy Lew: Methinks you should read the article again real slow N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Stan Danke: Methinks its just spin in support of the PM N'esy Pas?
Evan Guest
Shorter synopsis Aaron...
Harper was a successful Prime Minister.
Trudeau is a failure.
Mark Thomas
Reply to @Evan Guest: Harper had to govern through a much more difficult period, including what some economists believe to have been the worst global economic crisis since the Great Depression. Other than dealing with a recalcitrant Trump in Washington, Trudeau was handed a much easier task and has still hasn't come across as being particularly competent. Harper made few if any attempts to cast himself as a savior, unlike Trudeau who was portrayed both here and abroad as the great Canadian "progressive" hope, an image he embraced. Disappointment about Trudeau's performance is justifiable.
Steve Wilson
Reply to @Mark Thomas: and PET had to govern through two more difficult periods, blah, blah, blah ...
Mark Thomas
Reply to @steve wilson: And your point is?
David Amos
Reply to @Evan Guest: WRONG Read it again
Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Mark Thomas:
Successful? You have to be joking!
Harper was the most divisive PM in living memory. He demonized those who disagreed with him (environmentalists, unions) and sicced attack auditors after organizations he didn't like. He kept us in a war we couldn't win implicating our Forces in torture there then his government ignored returning veterans with PTSD. He under-funded health transfers.
At first Harper tried to ignore the 2008 recession, even if it might tank the economy of our major trading partner. Only when the Liberals and NDP (finally provoked by his efforts to strangle their electoral financing) began moves to form a coalition did he act. What he evidently saw was a political threat to his government, not an economic one to Canada. He ran screaming to the Governor General to prorogue government. That was followed by 3 months of no government at all as he and his party hastily cooked up a plan (along with their corporate friends) to protect the country from the extreme danger that had been obvious all along. The man was first and foremost a self-serving politician, far less an economist. Successful? In base partisan terms perhaps, but not as a national leader nor a statesman.
It was with good reason that voters finally rose up en-mass to rid this country of Harper and his Conservatives in 2015. Their only real question was with whom.
That turned out to be the Liberals, now fronted by a cute young salesman and sporting their brand new progressive livery.
They will have a much harder time next month, but the Conservatives haven't changed since Harper and 2015, even though he's (officially) gone. Trudeau's advantage after all his scandals is IMHO that the obvious alternative is even worse.
Mark Thomas
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Jones: I didn't agree with everything Harper did, but on balance he
faced a much tougher task than did Trudeau. Harper's economic record, in
bringing Canada through a massive recession in particular, was
laudable. What's Trudeau done on the economic front? A lengthy Toronto
Star article this week argues that he hasn't done much for the middle
class, supposedly his government's raison d'etre.
Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Mark Thomas:
I noted that Harper had to forced by political threat to deal with the 2008 recession.
Trudeau, Freeland and Ambassador McNaughton got us through the USCAM (NAFTA2) negotiations with minimal losses. Given threats made by a capricious US President, including tariffs imposed on bogus security grounds on our steel and aluminium producers and threats of others that would have hobbled our auto industry, I doubt any other PM would have achieved much better, since we are after all a US satellite, at least in trade. We lost a little on Supply Management but cheap Mexican labor rates are less of a competitive threat to our auto industry.
Haven't read The Star article, but yes, the middles class have not done quite as well as promised. Still, current polls suggest a close race with most likely outcome a Liberal government, so for many voters that has already been factored in.
Of course that may all change during the campaign.
I noted that Harper had to forced by political threat to deal with the 2008 recession.
Trudeau, Freeland and Ambassador McNaughton got us through the USCAM (NAFTA2) negotiations with minimal losses. Given threats made by a capricious US President, including tariffs imposed on bogus security grounds on our steel and aluminium producers and threats of others that would have hobbled our auto industry, I doubt any other PM would have achieved much better, since we are after all a US satellite, at least in trade. We lost a little on Supply Management but cheap Mexican labor rates are less of a competitive threat to our auto industry.
Haven't read The Star article, but yes, the middles class have not done quite as well as promised. Still, current polls suggest a close race with most likely outcome a Liberal government, so for many voters that has already been factored in.
Of course that may all change during the campaign.
Mark Thomas
Reply to @Lloyd Jones:
If it is to a Lib government, let's hope for the sake of the country
that it's a weak minority government. As for Lib trade policies, I think
many have underestimated how much the Trudeau government has given
away. Only time will tell, but even many economists aren't convinced
that we negotiated good deals under Trudeau. And why was Freeland
heavily involved in trade negotiations anyway? I've read that her
background is in Eastern European/Russian studies as well as media and
publishing. If she was the best trade negotiator the Libs had to offer,
it says a lot about the weakness of the government's approach.
Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Mark Thomas:
Yes Mark, I'm also hoping for a Liberal minority supported by the NDP (hopefully under a new leader).
What have the Liberals given away in USCAM that is not widely known? Maybe I'm missing something here.
You're right, Freeland was a 1993 Oxford Rhodes Scholar in Slavonic Studies.
"Why her? Because she knows America better than most, having been a high-ranking journalist with Thomson Reuters in New York, covering banking, trade and the economy. “She knows her files really well and she’s known across the U.S.,”
(https://www.opencanada.org/features/nafta-negotiations-your-guide-players-and-priorities-matter/)). She was not alone of course, backed by Ambassador McNaughton, Steve Verheul, Kirsten Hillman, David Usher, Kendall Hembroff and others. Freeland was the political lead, part of an expert team.
Could you explain how the government's approach was weak and could have been improved?
David Amos
Reply to @Lloyd Jones:
Methinks Mr Martin had such a mandate briefly after I ran against him
and his cohorts in 2004. If you wish to recall the Liberal government
bearly survived its first budget vote. They gave Stronach a Cabinet
position after she dumped MacKay and crossed the floor in order to save
Humpty Dumpty from falling along with the assistance of Cadman and the
Speaker . Then when the Gomery Report came out Martin had the writ
dropped before the news got worse. Well they lost to Harper whom we
suffered with for ten long years no thanks to Canada's self described
"Natural Governing Party" N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
I dont believe these manipulated polls. Trudeau is going to get wiped out October 21.
Jon Smith
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Hillary by 10
Celeste Lang
Reply to @Robert Campbell: non party status I think.
Aaron Barton
Reply to @Robert
Campbell: I would be surprised if this is not the case. I will walk away
if he's given another term, because clearly I dont get it. Everything
about him makes no sense to me and the great nation we have built.
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks many agree with polls and that its gonna go right down to the line to see who wins the next minority mandate N'esy Pas?
Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Robert Campbell:
I'd love to see the credible data you have to refute them?
Failing that, this is just partisan wishful thinking.
Lee McEachern
Canada's main foe in 2019 is Justin Trudeau.
Mo Bennett
Reply to @Lee McEachern: you forgot Andy, who's even more dangerous.
John Chester
Reply to @mo bennett: I prefer leaders who are ethical and moral, we know that's not Justin.
James Holden
Reply to @John Chester:
You won't find one of those under the Conservative banner.
You won't find one of those under the Conservative banner.
Brent Johnston
Reply to @mo bennett: explain this bold and unfounded statement.
Brent Johnston
Reply to @mo bennett: ...and dont start out with, he's gonna...because you can't tell the future.
Chari Rama
Reply to @John Chester: "I prefer leaders who are ethical and moral..."
Maybe you should go live in a Buddhist Monastery
Maybe you should go live in a Buddhist Monastery
David Amos
Reply to @mo bennett: YO MO Methinks you forgot to to enlighten the folks as to why you know so much about hard ball politicking N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
You can sum up Justin's time as PM in a few words. Chaotic reckless spending with a lot of unethical behavior. He does not deserve a second chance.
Grant Mouland
Reply to @Robert Campbell: I couldn’t agree more. Equally honestly I do not think Singh or Scheer merits a first chance.
Aaron Morris
Reply to @Grant Mouland:
Alas, we must choose one.
You can choose who you know will break promises, or you can choose who that promise break tells you will probably break promises.
David Amos
Reply to @Grant Mouland: Me too. Nobody could deny that it would be a hoot to see either Maxy Baby or Dizzy Lizzy the questionable political lawyers who are the lowest in the polls win first prize in this carnival. However I know its just a pipe dream. Methinks the best we can hope for is a slim minority mandate no matter who is the ringmaster and hopefully lots of Independents find seat as well Then we would have real circus to enjoy as our rights and interests are purported being protected N'esy Pas?
Robert Campbell
What is the source of Trudeaus inflated ego and arrogance? Certainly not his dismal performance as PM.
John Chow
Reply to @Robert Campbell:
The dangers of dynastic politics.
Mark Sobkow
Reply to @Robert
Campbell: Some people think power *makes* them worthy of respect, and
demand it of everyone instead of earning it. Politician are
particularly notorious for this; they think everyone should respect "the
office" if not them.
Craig Sweeney
Reply to @Robert Campbell:
I think it's the fact he gets to sit at papa's old desk.
I think it's the fact he gets to sit at papa's old desk.
Gene Plichota
Reply to @John Chow:
it's appearing that dynasty follows from simple survival
it's appearing that dynasty follows from simple survival
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Campbell: Methinks its called DNA N'esy Pas?
George Smith
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Trudeau has three main opponents this election:
1. Honesty
2. Integrity
3. Ethics
David Amos
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Reply to @George
Smith: Methinks you would be hard pressed to find any politician who
swore an oath to the Queen that could beat such formidable opponents
N'esy Pas?David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Oh My My Methinks I must have touched another nerve N'esy Pas?
Jimmy Johnson
Being on the cover of Vogue is not an accomplishment a PM should hang his hat on. It's self serving, and pretentious , which sums the PM perfectly.
David Amos
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Johnson: Methinks if got his picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone
now that would be really something I bet he would order Mr Butts to send
five copies to his Mother and the members of the Rolling Stones ASAP
N'esy Pas? David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks that comment was totally harmless in light of the irrefutable fact that this article bragged that Trudeau The Younger was on the cover of the Rolling Stone N'esy Pas?
Craig Sweeney
"Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott."
You have some nerve, Wheary, to blame the victims. Now you frame it as JT "ran afoul of two strong independent-minded women".
In reality a sad leader drunk on his own power, strong armed two women, because they didnt sit down, be quiet, and do what they were told to do.
Warren Stanley Pollock
Reply to @Craig Sweeney: Yes and they ran right over to the Conservatives and said what a fine, up-standing, bunch of people you are. No, they didn't they don't like the Con-artists any better then anybody else. LOL
Craig Sweeney
Reply to @Warren Stanley Pollock:
I think that speaks to their personal ethics and promise they made to their constituents. Their issue was not with the Liberal party, just the current 'leader'.
I think that speaks to their personal ethics and promise they made to their constituents. Their issue was not with the Liberal party, just the current 'leader'.
David Amos
Reply to @Craig Sweeney: Methinks you don't know the whole story of the Jane a Jody Tag Team yet N'esy Pas?
Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
A leader who frames every issue around ideals can expect blowback when he can't - or won't - live up to them
The Justin Trudeau of 2019 — the leader
who is now seeking re-election — is not the Justin Trudeau of 2015, the
young politician who became Canada's 23rd prime minister on a sunny day
in November four years ago.
For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.
The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019.
The prime minister carries all of that into this fall's election. Over the last century and a half, Canadians have shown themselves to be forgiving and patient with their prime ministers — only two first-term majority governments have ever failed to be re-elected — but few of Trudeau's predecessors came to the office with higher expectations.
Trudeau has things to offer in his own defence. The Trudeau on offer over the last four years has arguably hewed closer to the promise of 2015 than he is sometimes given credit for. But the question now is whether he's shown us enough to get another four years.
In the beginning, there was the promise of "real change." At the most basic level, Justin Trudeau was not Stephen Harper and he promised a clear break from Harper's years in power. "Canadians want their government to do different things, and to do things differently," the new government said in its speech from the throne.
In various ways, big and small, things have been different.
Trudeau marches in Pride parades and is believed to be the first prime minister to ever visit a gay bar.
He takes questions from members of the public at open town hall meetings. He identifies himself as a feminist and appointed an equal number of men and women to his cabinet. He has appeared in the pages of Vogue and on the cover of Rolling Stone. These are not things that Stephen Harper did, or would have done.
Income-splitting for married couples was repealed and the federal system of child benefits was reformed and expanded. The long-form census has been restored. Canadian corporations are now required to publicly report on how many of their directors are women. The national anthem now reads "in all of us command" instead of "in all thy sons command." A majority of the Senate's seats are held by independents. There is, notwithstanding legal challenges launched by three conservative premiers, a national price on carbon emissions, billed as "one of the most ambitious carbon pricing programs in the world."
When the Harper government left office, Canada was on track to miss its emissions reduction target for 2030 by 300 megatonnes. Taking into account policies announced through 2018, that gap has been reduced by 220 megatonnes.
For 2015-2016 — the last fiscal year of the Harper era — the federal government allocated $11.4 billion for programs and services for Indigenous peoples. Under the Liberals, that total allotment is now set to reach $17.1 billion by 2021-2022.
Since November 2015, 87 long-term drinking water advisories have been lifted in Indigenous communities, nearly double the number eliminated in the previous five years.
For those inclined to support the Conservative Party, nearly all deviations from the Harper mean might be unwelcome. A Conservative government presumably would have at least maintained its preference for balancing the budget.
It's also within the realm of possibility that Harper — more cautious and fearful of bad press than Trudeau — would have avoided the Aga Khan's private island and stuck to wearing a suit and tie while touring India. It's also hard to imagine Harper's cabinet breaking up over the Shawcross doctrine. (The Conservatives might have found their own trouble, of course — perhaps by proroguing Parliament once or twice more.)
The more significant challenge for Trudeau is in responding to the argument that he hasn't been different enough. Trudeau's government is arguably the most left-leaning and activist federal government since Lester B. Pearson, but progressives and other potential Liberal supporters — voters now pursued with zeal by NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and the Greens' Elizabeth May — have grounds for complaint.
Electoral reform did not happen — and it didn't happen in spectacular fashion. Canada's international climate target for 2030 is the same as it was under Harper and the current suite of policies doesn't fully account for the necessary reductions.
Trudeau's cabinet approved the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, just as Harper's cabinet would have (though Trudeau never hid his desire to see a pipeline built). Indigenous reconciliation hasn't been advanced as far as many hoped. Parliament is still being asked to pass budget bills that could stand to be smaller. The access-to-information system is still in dire need of reform.
Nearly every government ends up deviating somewhat from its carefully constructed plans. But when you promise change, you will be judged by that standard.
According to a count by researchers at Laval University, the Liberal platform of 2015 contained 353 promises — far more than any government in recent memory has brought with it to office. Four years later, those researchers judge that 189 commitments (54 per cent) have been kept in full, while another 136 (39 per cent) have partially fulfilled.
That rate of follow-through is not out of line with the experience of previous governments. The Conservative minority government that existed from 2006 to 2008 managed 60 per cent and eight per cent, respectively. The Conservative majority from 2011 to 2015 (with the benefit of having been in office for five years by then) made good on 77 per cent and seven per cent.
Though his government's record is punctuated by loud misses — electoral reform, returning the budget to balance in 2019 — Trudeau could fairly point to such numbers in his own defence. But Trudeau's politics have always amounted to more than a checklist of items or tasks.
He has campaigned and governed using the language of ideals: change, reconciliation, diversity, feminism and gender equality, transparency and openness, "sunny ways," "we're back," supporting the middle class, fighting climate change. He has been heralded (particularly in the pages of American magazines) as the right sort of leader for this perilous moment.
Harper tended to downplay his vision of a smaller government and a more conservative country. Instead, he favoured a transactional, incremental politics that worked hard to seem unthreatening. Other than plastering the country with "Economic Action Plan" billboards, Harper tried to avoid attracting any more attention than was absolutely necessary.
Trudeau's approach has been nearly the opposite. He has been prominent and loud. He has embraced "the vision thing." As much as he has promised to do specific things, he has done so using broader appeals to ideas and ideals.
As a consequence, he's given voters ample opportunities to measure reality against his own words.
Consider that stated commitment to gender equality and feminism. Trudeau's government has passed pay equity legislation, uses gender-based analysis to assess the design of its own policies and made a deliberate effort to achieve gender parity in its public appointments.
But his cabinet also has refused to block the sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia, a country where women are subjected to official oppression. And Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott.
The prime minister who enthuses about the power and purpose of diversity has welcomed 40,000 Syrian refugees and increased annual immigration — but his government sent emissaries to the United States to discourage asylum seekers from walking across Canada's southern border. A leader who invokes his children to explain his commitment to combat climate change is still being pressed to explain how he could approve the Trans Mountain expansion — even if neither of the Greens nor the NDP can quite bring themselves to argue that the oilsands should be shut down in the near future.
The politician who condemned the Harper government's attempt to ban the niqab during citizenship ceremonies could be heard again earlier this year when the prime minister spoke about the Christchurch massacre and the threat of white supremacists — but he has been criticized for not doing more to fight Quebec's Bill 21. After promising a more collaborative approach to federalism, Trudeau has found himself fighting openly with the premier of Canada's largest province. The nice young man who promised sunny ways found himself accused of trampling all over the Shawcross doctrine.
Trudeau's recent appearance on Netflix's Patriot Act was a direct confrontation on those terms — a bookend to the generally laudatory coverage Trudeau has received in the United States since 2015.
In their defence, the Liberals might argue that governing is hard and nobody's perfect, that compromises are both necessary and unavoidable, and that ideals — even if they're imperfectly lived — still matter. But any space between words and actions allows room for cynicism to grow.
In their pre-election advertising, the Conservatives have, with typical succinctness, hit on this particular narrative. Trudeau, they say, is "not as advertised." It's not an argument that seems designed to persuade potential Conservative supporters: if you voted for change in 2015 and are now disappointed that there hasn't been enough change, you are unlikely to now vote for a Conservative Party that promises a return to the pre-Trudeau state of affairs.
Instead, the Conservative line on Trudeau seems aimed at progressives. It's an attack meant to depress some of the 6.9 million people who voted for a Liberal candidate in 2015 — to either convince them to stay home or nudge them into voting for the New Democrats or Greens (in fact, the United Steelworkers are making almost the exact same argument in telling voters to go with Singh's NDP). If the Conservatives can scatter the Liberal vote, while holding their own traditional level of support, Andrew Scheer can become prime minister.
The
presence of Stephen Harper no doubt made it easier to motivate and
unite a record turnout for the Liberals in 2015. Four years later,
Trudeau's task is to rally non-conservatives around his own government.
But he also can't afford to let the election become a simple up-or-down
vote on whether Justin Trudeau has fulfilled all of Canadians' hopes and
dreams.
Much of one's judgment of Trudeau depends on the point of comparison. So while the Conservatives seek to measure the prime minister against the Trudeau of 2015, the Liberals have decided they are better off contrasting their guy with the only other guy who seems to have a realistic chance of being prime minister at year's end.
The Liberal campaign in 2015 was not all smiles and sunshine, but 2019 will likely require a feistier effort. The videos on same-sex marriage and abortion that seemed to so discombobulate the Conservative team suggest the Liberal campaign is looking to throw some punches (and is still adept at using social media to advance its cause). Trudeau might need to get his hands dirty. He will at least have to fight to defend his record, particularly in the three televised debates in which he's agreed to participate.
All of that should appeal to Trudeau's competitive streak and his delight at being underestimated. But the Conservatives are also taking aim at the very bedrock of Trudeau's appeal in 2015: the middle class and those working hard to join it.
Four years ago, the Liberals grasped that a significant number of voters were feeling anxious, insecure and squeezed. In response, they offered direct support — in particular, a new child benefit — and public investment. Whatever else the Liberals promised to do, however much more Trudeau came to represent, that appeal to the middle class was foundational. Without it, the whole structure of the Liberal mission would have been in danger of falling apart.
Four
years later, the Conservatives have realized the wisdom of the Liberal
message and are trying to match it. Scheer is likely to spend most of
the campaign touting the different ways a Conservative government would
"put more money in your pocket," either through tax breaks or by
repealing federal climate policies (though Trudeau's
carbon-pricing-and-refund policy is expected to provide a net benefit to
most families).
The Liberals can point to their own policies and will no doubt have more things to promise over the next six weeks. But they might not be able to outbid the Conservatives in a dollar-for-dollar contest of tax breaks. To that end, they seem poised to try to broaden the argument, to talk about the future and what it should look like, or about leadership and what it should stand for, or about the country and what it should represent. The Conservatives will have responses for those things, too.
The memory of 2015 will loom over everything and the election of 2019 will, one way or another, be a moment of reckoning for the last four years. But an election is always ultimately about the next four years.
For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.
The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019.
The prime minister carries all of that into this fall's election. Over the last century and a half, Canadians have shown themselves to be forgiving and patient with their prime ministers — only two first-term majority governments have ever failed to be re-elected — but few of Trudeau's predecessors came to the office with higher expectations.
Trudeau has things to offer in his own defence. The Trudeau on offer over the last four years has arguably hewed closer to the promise of 2015 than he is sometimes given credit for. But the question now is whether he's shown us enough to get another four years.
What 'change' looks like today
In the beginning, there was the promise of "real change." At the most basic level, Justin Trudeau was not Stephen Harper and he promised a clear break from Harper's years in power. "Canadians want their government to do different things, and to do things differently," the new government said in its speech from the throne.
In various ways, big and small, things have been different.
Trudeau marches in Pride parades and is believed to be the first prime minister to ever visit a gay bar.
He takes questions from members of the public at open town hall meetings. He identifies himself as a feminist and appointed an equal number of men and women to his cabinet. He has appeared in the pages of Vogue and on the cover of Rolling Stone. These are not things that Stephen Harper did, or would have done.
Prime
Minister Justin Trudeau, right, waves to the crowd while waiting to
march in the Vancouver Pride Parade with Green Party Leader Elizabeth
May, left, and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, centre, in Vancouver on Sunday,
Aug. 4, 2019. (Darryl Dyck/Canadian Press)
There
are myriad policy choices that likely would have gone another way if
Harper, or any other Conservative, had been prime minister for the past
four years.Income-splitting for married couples was repealed and the federal system of child benefits was reformed and expanded. The long-form census has been restored. Canadian corporations are now required to publicly report on how many of their directors are women. The national anthem now reads "in all of us command" instead of "in all thy sons command." A majority of the Senate's seats are held by independents. There is, notwithstanding legal challenges launched by three conservative premiers, a national price on carbon emissions, billed as "one of the most ambitious carbon pricing programs in the world."
When the Harper government left office, Canada was on track to miss its emissions reduction target for 2030 by 300 megatonnes. Taking into account policies announced through 2018, that gap has been reduced by 220 megatonnes.
A
man pauses for a moment as he looks over 1,000 crosses during a vigil
at Crab Park in Vancouver's east side Tuesday, May 6, 2008. The crosses
were placed to represent the lives saved by Insite, the safe injection
project that allows drug addicts to shoot up in a safe environment. (Jonathan Hayward/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
In
the fall of 2015, there was one supervised drug consumption site
operating in Canada — a facility approved by Jean Chrétien's government.
In the fall of 2019, there are 44 sites approved to operate in Canada.
Some number of Canadians are likely alive today because of that change.For 2015-2016 — the last fiscal year of the Harper era — the federal government allocated $11.4 billion for programs and services for Indigenous peoples. Under the Liberals, that total allotment is now set to reach $17.1 billion by 2021-2022.
Since November 2015, 87 long-term drinking water advisories have been lifted in Indigenous communities, nearly double the number eliminated in the previous five years.
For those inclined to support the Conservative Party, nearly all deviations from the Harper mean might be unwelcome. A Conservative government presumably would have at least maintained its preference for balancing the budget.
How 'different' is different enough?
It's also within the realm of possibility that Harper — more cautious and fearful of bad press than Trudeau — would have avoided the Aga Khan's private island and stuck to wearing a suit and tie while touring India. It's also hard to imagine Harper's cabinet breaking up over the Shawcross doctrine. (The Conservatives might have found their own trouble, of course — perhaps by proroguing Parliament once or twice more.)
The more significant challenge for Trudeau is in responding to the argument that he hasn't been different enough. Trudeau's government is arguably the most left-leaning and activist federal government since Lester B. Pearson, but progressives and other potential Liberal supporters — voters now pursued with zeal by NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and the Greens' Elizabeth May — have grounds for complaint.
Electoral reform did not happen — and it didn't happen in spectacular fashion. Canada's international climate target for 2030 is the same as it was under Harper and the current suite of policies doesn't fully account for the necessary reductions.
Trudeau's cabinet approved the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, just as Harper's cabinet would have (though Trudeau never hid his desire to see a pipeline built). Indigenous reconciliation hasn't been advanced as far as many hoped. Parliament is still being asked to pass budget bills that could stand to be smaller. The access-to-information system is still in dire need of reform.
Nearly every government ends up deviating somewhat from its carefully constructed plans. But when you promise change, you will be judged by that standard.
A party that promised much
According to a count by researchers at Laval University, the Liberal platform of 2015 contained 353 promises — far more than any government in recent memory has brought with it to office. Four years later, those researchers judge that 189 commitments (54 per cent) have been kept in full, while another 136 (39 per cent) have partially fulfilled.
That rate of follow-through is not out of line with the experience of previous governments. The Conservative minority government that existed from 2006 to 2008 managed 60 per cent and eight per cent, respectively. The Conservative majority from 2011 to 2015 (with the benefit of having been in office for five years by then) made good on 77 per cent and seven per cent.
Though his government's record is punctuated by loud misses — electoral reform, returning the budget to balance in 2019 — Trudeau could fairly point to such numbers in his own defence. But Trudeau's politics have always amounted to more than a checklist of items or tasks.
He has campaigned and governed using the language of ideals: change, reconciliation, diversity, feminism and gender equality, transparency and openness, "sunny ways," "we're back," supporting the middle class, fighting climate change. He has been heralded (particularly in the pages of American magazines) as the right sort of leader for this perilous moment.
The price of pursuing the 'vision thing'
Harper tended to downplay his vision of a smaller government and a more conservative country. Instead, he favoured a transactional, incremental politics that worked hard to seem unthreatening. Other than plastering the country with "Economic Action Plan" billboards, Harper tried to avoid attracting any more attention than was absolutely necessary.
Trudeau's approach has been nearly the opposite. He has been prominent and loud. He has embraced "the vision thing." As much as he has promised to do specific things, he has done so using broader appeals to ideas and ideals.
As a consequence, he's given voters ample opportunities to measure reality against his own words.
Consider that stated commitment to gender equality and feminism. Trudeau's government has passed pay equity legislation, uses gender-based analysis to assess the design of its own policies and made a deliberate effort to achieve gender parity in its public appointments.
But his cabinet also has refused to block the sale of light-armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia, a country where women are subjected to official oppression. And Trudeau's most damaging crisis came when he ran afoul of two strong, independent-minded women: Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott.
Prime
Minister Justin Trudeau is embraced by Jody Wilson-Raybould, then the
minister of justice, after delivering a speech on the recognition and
implementation of Indigenous rights in in the House of Commons Feb. 14,
2018. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)
For nearly every one of Trudeau stated ideals, there have been similar complications and compromises.The prime minister who enthuses about the power and purpose of diversity has welcomed 40,000 Syrian refugees and increased annual immigration — but his government sent emissaries to the United States to discourage asylum seekers from walking across Canada's southern border. A leader who invokes his children to explain his commitment to combat climate change is still being pressed to explain how he could approve the Trans Mountain expansion — even if neither of the Greens nor the NDP can quite bring themselves to argue that the oilsands should be shut down in the near future.
The politician who condemned the Harper government's attempt to ban the niqab during citizenship ceremonies could be heard again earlier this year when the prime minister spoke about the Christchurch massacre and the threat of white supremacists — but he has been criticized for not doing more to fight Quebec's Bill 21. After promising a more collaborative approach to federalism, Trudeau has found himself fighting openly with the premier of Canada's largest province. The nice young man who promised sunny ways found himself accused of trampling all over the Shawcross doctrine.
Trudeau's recent appearance on Netflix's Patriot Act was a direct confrontation on those terms — a bookend to the generally laudatory coverage Trudeau has received in the United States since 2015.
In their defence, the Liberals might argue that governing is hard and nobody's perfect, that compromises are both necessary and unavoidable, and that ideals — even if they're imperfectly lived — still matter. But any space between words and actions allows room for cynicism to grow.
The political logic of 'not as advertised'
In their pre-election advertising, the Conservatives have, with typical succinctness, hit on this particular narrative. Trudeau, they say, is "not as advertised." It's not an argument that seems designed to persuade potential Conservative supporters: if you voted for change in 2015 and are now disappointed that there hasn't been enough change, you are unlikely to now vote for a Conservative Party that promises a return to the pre-Trudeau state of affairs.
Instead, the Conservative line on Trudeau seems aimed at progressives. It's an attack meant to depress some of the 6.9 million people who voted for a Liberal candidate in 2015 — to either convince them to stay home or nudge them into voting for the New Democrats or Greens (in fact, the United Steelworkers are making almost the exact same argument in telling voters to go with Singh's NDP). If the Conservatives can scatter the Liberal vote, while holding their own traditional level of support, Andrew Scheer can become prime minister.
Much of one's judgment of Trudeau depends on the point of comparison. So while the Conservatives seek to measure the prime minister against the Trudeau of 2015, the Liberals have decided they are better off contrasting their guy with the only other guy who seems to have a realistic chance of being prime minister at year's end.
The federal Liberals are trying to define Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer in the public's mind on their own terms. (Christopher Katsarov/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
The
Liberals have begun to define the alternative. They have put Scheer,
who is still relatively unknown to the Canadian public, on the spot over
gay rights and abortion — two issues on which Trudeau has taken an
enthusiastic stand. They have linked Scheer's politics to the burgeoning
record of Doug Ford, the well-known but unpopular premier of Ontario.
They have happily invoked the name of Stephen Harper — simultaneously
working to fill in their picture of who Scheer is and reminding Liberal
voters of why they turned out in 2015.A more aggressive Liberal campaign
The Liberal campaign in 2015 was not all smiles and sunshine, but 2019 will likely require a feistier effort. The videos on same-sex marriage and abortion that seemed to so discombobulate the Conservative team suggest the Liberal campaign is looking to throw some punches (and is still adept at using social media to advance its cause). Trudeau might need to get his hands dirty. He will at least have to fight to defend his record, particularly in the three televised debates in which he's agreed to participate.
All of that should appeal to Trudeau's competitive streak and his delight at being underestimated. But the Conservatives are also taking aim at the very bedrock of Trudeau's appeal in 2015: the middle class and those working hard to join it.
Four years ago, the Liberals grasped that a significant number of voters were feeling anxious, insecure and squeezed. In response, they offered direct support — in particular, a new child benefit — and public investment. Whatever else the Liberals promised to do, however much more Trudeau came to represent, that appeal to the middle class was foundational. Without it, the whole structure of the Liberal mission would have been in danger of falling apart.
The Liberals can point to their own policies and will no doubt have more things to promise over the next six weeks. But they might not be able to outbid the Conservatives in a dollar-for-dollar contest of tax breaks. To that end, they seem poised to try to broaden the argument, to talk about the future and what it should look like, or about leadership and what it should stand for, or about the country and what it should represent. The Conservatives will have responses for those things, too.
The memory of 2015 will loom over everything and the election of 2019 will, one way or another, be a moment of reckoning for the last four years. But an election is always ultimately about the next four years.
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