David Raymond Amos@DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos@alllibertynews and 49 others Methinks
I should be pleased to be informed that there is a Regent St on the
North Side of Fat Fred City but I doubt anyone can find it in Google Maps
N'esy Pas?
Fredericton council votes to put Tim Hortons drive-thru traffic fix on hold
Creation of north side turnaround would cost the city $40K
CBC News ·
Drivers lining up for coffee are blocking a busy north side Fredericton intersection and access to other businesses. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
Fredericton City Council has voted to
delay approval of a turnaround on the city's north side that
would alleviate traffic jams caused by a Tim Hortons drive-thru.
Vehicles queuing for the drive-thru are blocking traffic on both Wallace Avenue and Main Street.
City staff proposed a $40,000 fix last week that was expected to get underway later this fall.
The
project would see a turnabout at the south end of Wallace Avenue to
prevent long lineups that trickle onto Main Street and halt traffic.
At
Monday night's council meeting, staff said changes the city made to the
flow of traffic in the area back in 2003, contributed to the problem.
The city recently banned left turns into the Tim Hortons downtown off Regent Street because of a backup in traffic. (Mike Heenan/CBC)
At
that time, Wallace Avenue was built as a route for city trucks to
access the snow dump. And the Tim Hortons drive-thru was moved from Main
Street to Wallace Avenue.
"It
sent the queuing over to Wallace Avenue and not off of Main Street
directly," said Sean Lee, assistant director of engineering for the
city.
"There was a business that was there. It was functioning
the way it was intended to function. We came in with a street
reconstruction and extended the street to carry commercial traffic, and
it was also able to allow for this queuing off of Wallace Avenue
itself."
Residents 'paying a penalty'
Coun. John MacDermid said he has concerns about whether tax payers should be paying for a new turnaround.
"Whose
responsibility is it to deal with those unintended consequences? Is it
the taxpayer or is it the users and the business owners?," MacDermid
said.
A
concrete turnaround will be installed at the bottom of Wallace and
Cityview avenues. This way, people who want coffee from Tim Hortons can
turn around and get back up the street to make a right turn into the
coffee business. (Lauren Bird/CBC)
"I
think that's a larger part of the conversation. We need to figure this
out because quite honestly, the way the drive-thrus are right now, the
residents are paying a penalty for ease of access to businesses."
The issue will come before council again on Oct. 15.
116 Comments Commenting is now closed for this story.
George
Smith Steve Ryan
"Saint John has other places where one can find better coffee. Try A & W, McD's or some of the uptown independents."
Reply to @SteveRyan:
I agree. Funny you don't see this at Micky D's, Wendys, or any other fast food restaurant and most of those are drive through.
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @George
Smith: Need I say I found this a far more interesting revelation about
your friends. Methinks these type of dudes in Fat Fred City don't hang
around Micky D's, Wendys, or any other fast food restaurant often N'esy
Pas?
George Smith Reply to @Jebidoah Shylah:
"I know many who have lived most of their lives doing marijuana and
hashish while working in all walks of life and had no problems of the
kind discribed by you. I actually knew a Deputy Minister of Justice and a
high ranking assistant to a N.B. premier and cabinet minister who did
these drugs.
David Raymond Amos Methinks
whereas Chucky Leblanc hangs around Tims a lot perhaps his buddies
Councillor John MacDermid and the Mayor should pay for his coffee and in
return I have no doubt the "Blogger" would be more than Happy Happy
Happy to direct the traffic for nearly everyone who knows him well in
the downtown area N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos
Methinks I should be
pleased to be informed that there is a Regent St on the North Side of
Fat Fred City but I doubt anyone find it in Google Maps N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Reply
to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks the light just dawned on my marblehead
Fat Fred City has a problem with traffic to both Tims N'esy Pas?
Daniel Rawlins What in sam hill is a turnabout?
David Raymond Amos Reply to @Daniel Rawlins: Methinks a turnabout is fair play N'esy Pas?
David
Urquhart Not
sure solutions like this will solve a growing problem. They probably
just make it easier for even more people to contribute to the problem.
Automatic photo ticketing for those blocking traffic (at any drive
through location) would very quickly solve the problem. When a coffee
and muffin is $180.00 people will very quickly change their behaviour.
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @David
Urquhart: maybe they will wise up, buy a coffee machine and make their
muffins at home. Much better coffee and tastier muffins!
David Raymond Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks Fat Fred City would wise up and help all the Fat
Dumb and Happy SANB supporting bureaucrats get their morning coffee and
muffin to take to work and sip on as they do nothing but dream of more
tasty treats to come at lunch time N'esy Pas?
David Raymond Amos Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should bring the homeless home and share your coffee and tasty muffins N'esy Pas?
Methinks the milk of human kindness runs pretty thin within the wealthy
SANB territory particularly during the time of a rather interesting
federal election N'esy Pas?
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