Sunday 8 September 2019

If the NDP is 'toast', do the Greens have what it takes?

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NDP leader lands in New Brunswick, says he's sorry for not visiting sooner

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May also in N.B., says it's her third trip this year


The party is rounding out its slate of candidates in the province and Singh was in Bathurst to introduce Daniel Thériault, a longtime activist in Acadian organizations. Singh called him "a star candidate" for the riding of Acadie-Bathurst.

But Singh faced questions from reporters about why he hadn't visited the province earlier in his first two years as NDP leader.


"We're absolutely taking New Brunswick seriously," Singh said, adding it was a mistake not to visit sooner. "I'm really sorry. I'm sorry I didn't get here earlier. I'm happy to be here."
Asked for an explanation, he said his mother taught him to not make excuses when apologizing.
Singh's lack of earlier visits was criticized by Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, who made her own appearance later in the day in Fredericton. The two parties are competing for left-of-centre votes in the Oct. 21 election.

May pointed out that it was her third trip to the province this year.

"Anyone that thinks that they have what it takes to serve their country as prime minister needs to know the country, needs to have gone to all parts of the country to listen," she said.

Facing local criticism


Last month, New Democrat Yvon Godin, the former Acadie-Bathurst MP, said he was "not proud" of Singh's absence from the province and said it was hurting the party's prospects.

But Godin, who represented the riding for 18 years, was at Singh's side on Monday and said it was "a great pleasure" to introduce him.


During the summer, Godin criticized Singh for not coming to the province during his first two years as federal NDP leader. (Radio-Canada)
Singh urged a small crowd of NDP supporters to rally behind Thériault.

"Here in New Brunswick, with our complete team of candidates, with our star candidate Daniel Thériault, we are confident that we can move forward, but we need your help."

He said the NDP is the only party committed to policies on health care and employment insurance that respond to people's needs.

Provincial party problems


Singh's visit comes during a tumultuous year for the NDP in New Brunswick. Last week, Radio-Canada reported that the party's Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe candidate, Luke MacLaren, had to apologize for old social-media posts that were offensive.

The provincial party has also been in the doldrums, winning a only five percent of the vote in last year's election and failing for the fourth campaign in a row to elect a single MLA.

The party also lacks a permanent leader. The only candidate who came forward for the position earlier this year, Joyce Richardson, was disqualified.
She later organized an exodus of former provincial NDP candidates to the Green Party, and her son Jonathan, another defector, suggested voters in northern New Brunswick were reluctant to support Singh because of his Sikh heritage.

The only bright spot for the NDP was that the exodus was revealed to be smaller than advertised after several apparent defectors said they were not switching to the Greens after all.



The provincial NDP has been without a full-time leader since Jennifer McKenzie resigned after the party's dismal performance in the 2018 provincial election. (CBC)

Singh said Monday he didn't believe Jonathan Richardson's comments about his background being a liability.

"People in Bathurst are welcoming and open-hearted and beautiful people who just want someone who understands them," he said. "They're people who just want a fair deal."

Singh also pushed back at the Green Party's apparent momentum in New Brunswick. The party captured 11.8 percent of the vote provincially last year, more than double that of the NDP, and elected three MLAs.

Singh said the NDP has "a really solid position" on abortion rights and national unity, "something I can't really say for the Green Party."

He was referring to one Green Party candidate who is anti-abortion and another who declared himself a Quebec sovereigntist.
May said in Fredericton that the Greens' position is "the same solid position" as the NDP's on both issues.

"What I find disturbing is that the NDP keeps saying there's something funny about our position, because it's the same as their position. I'm all for recycling … but the NDP has to stop recycling the same lies every day."

Singh said the delay in getting NDP candidates nominated was because of his commitment to "do things a little differently," including recruiting more women. But eight of the party's 10 candidates in New Brunswick are men.

Thériault said his announcement had been put off so it would have a more dramatic effect.
"It was part of our strategy to delay the announcement. We wanted to have a good impact."

Thériault is a former director of the Festival acadien de Caraquet and other arts organizations and was also head of the Acadian Cultural Federation of Nova Scotia. He is the brother of former Caraquet Liberal MLA Bernard Thériault.

 

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Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.
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If the NDP is 'toast', do the Greens have what it takes?


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Methinks much to Madame May's chagrin Harper and Scheer know that nobody cares what Stockwell Day has to say about anything anymore Anyone can see the CBC latest poll predicts that the NDP will beat the Greens to 3rd place N'esy Pas? 









 

If the NDP is 'toast', do the Greens have what it takes?

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New Democrats and Greens battle it out

Vassy Kapelos, host of Power & Politics

"The NDP," Stockwell Day told CBC's Power Panel last week, "is toast."

The statement was somewhat surprising coming from the former Conservative cabinet minister, who had been defending NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh's political potential for months. Not that surprising, though, given the number of people writing off the New Democrats these days.





Even Charlie Angus admitted a few days ago he's been reading his party's obituary for a long time. Angus insisted that obit isn't ready to be printed, but his counter-argument was all about the kind of power New Democrats could enjoy in a minority government — one led by another party.

Singh himself all but acknowledged recently how low the party is setting its sights in 2019 when he ripped into Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer over his 2005 comments on same-sex marriage. He said the NDP would not support a Conservative minority. But why would he even talk about a minority government at this point? Singh is supposed to be running to form a government of his own - not to prop one up (or knock one down).

I don't like to write any party off. I remember how many people (in the media and outside of it) used to say it would be a cold day in hell before Justin Trudeau ever became prime minister. (Prior to the last election, you'll remember, the Liberals were polling a distant third.)

The campaign changed things. That's what campaigns do. I think just about anything could happen in the coming campaign as well.

But it's pretty bleak out there for the Dippers right now: not a lot of cash in the coffers, polling below the Greens in Quebec (the single most important province for the party) and nowhere near a full slate of candidates in the days before the real campaign begins.

The natural heir to whatever ground the New Democrats have lost would appear to be the Green Party. But that isn't a given.







Green Party of Canada leader Elizabeth May speaks in Toronto during a fireside chat about the climate. (THE CANADIAN PRESS)




Take a look at the events of the past week. (Stay with me — it's complicated.)

First came an announcement that 14 New Democrats in New Brunswick, all provincial save for one member of the federal executive, were defecting to the Green Party because they didn't like their chances as NDP candidates.

Then, one of the defectors told The Canadian Press he's talked to people in the province who are uncomfortable with Singh's religion.

A day went by and the NDP started calling around newsrooms, saying not all the people on the defectors' list are actually leaving for the Greens. A handful came out publicly to say they're sticking with the NDP. Singh said Green Party Leader Elizabeth May "has a lot to answer for."

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May released a statement. "I won't attack (Singh)," she says —  after attacking him at length, accusing him of blowing off New Brunswick and reminding him that "being a federal party leader is hard work." All of which should tell you that Trudeau and Scheer are quite right when they predict the coming campaign will be "nasty."

The defectors story is complicated and weird. Does it point to organizational problems for the Greens and the NDP? Probably.

If the Greens orchestrated this regional coup, they need to work on their coup-making skills. Some of the people on the initial list of defectors reportedly thought they were simply talking about a merger with the Greens. Others said they didn't even know they'd been added to the list. (One Green candidate in the Maritimes gulped when I called to ask about this week's events, calling them "embarrassing.")



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Greens are accustomed to being questioned about their organizational competence. In election after election, they're dogged by the question of whether they can turn their popular support into actual seats. (They also don't like it when you ask that question; May once told me she's "over it.")

David Chernushenko is a former deputy leader of the Greens and a failed leadership candidate. He said the party's lack of a ground game was always a problem.

"I left the party ten years ago and my main critique was that the focus was all about the leader," he said.

"No question, people expect that and the symbolism of that is really important, but you have to build a party. The infrastructure has to be there … good, plain organization is what's needed.

That shambles in New Brunswick didn't exactly reflect well on the NDP either. Singh's critics are right: he's never once visited New Brunswick since becoming leader - not once during an entire (official) tour of the country. Not one of the New Democrats I spoke to last week thinks that was anything but a huge mistake.

There is a feeling in party circles that Singh is starting to hit his campaign groove now, that he's more comfortable leading the charge. Too late? "It's way, way, way too late," one NDP MP told me recently.

In the end, if the polls are right and the NDP is toast, the Greens may not be in a position to capitalize.

Voters — especially those still undecided — care more about climate change now than they ever did before, but that isn't just a NDP/Green battle. The Liberals will be fighting for those votes too - and in Quebec right now, polls show they've got a lot of them.

Vassy Kapelos is host of Power & Politics, weekdays at 5 p.m. ET on CBC News Network.

Power Lines

The Power & Politics Power Panelists on where the big parties will be focused this week


Amanda Alvaro  president and co-founder of Pomp & Circumstance
The Liberals are framing their position and theme for the election campaign in the ramp up to the writ being dropped. With the tagline, 'Choose Forward,' expect Justin Trudeau to use every opportunity to contrast the progress that's been made for Canadians under his leadership with the risk of slipping backward under the Conservatives.

Rachel Curran senior associate at Harper & Associates Consulting
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer will be focused next week on detailing his plans to help Canadians get ahead, including making maternity benefits tax-free (worth up to $4,000) and offering a Green Homes Tax Credit of up to $2,850 to help homeowners increase the energy-efficiency of their homes.

Kathleen Monk principal at Earnscliffe Strategy Group
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh will kick off the party's federal election tour in Toronto Sunday with Olivia Chow and Mike Layton. In the days following, Singh will join candidates Andrew Cash (Davenport) and Matthew Green (Hamilton Centre) promising, that with a strong team in Ottawa, New Democrats will address the housing crisis in Canada after successive Liberal and Conservative governments have failed.


Poll Tracker Takeaway 


Éric Grenier's weekly look at key numbers in the political public opinion polls. 

A fight for third place is not the fight the New Democrats want.

And yet, here they are.

The defection of a group of New Brunswick New Democrats to the Greens (a group that turned out to be not as big as originally claimed) highlights something that's becoming increasingly obvious in the polls:

In some parts of the country, including Atlantic Canada, it's the Greens who are in third place.
But could the New Democrats end up in fourth nationwide?

At this stage, the chances that the NDP will fall behind the Greens at the national level look relatively slim. The Poll Tracker puts the NDP ahead of the Greens by about three percentage points. Most pollsters put the NDP solidly in third place and the Green Party has consistently failed to match its polling numbers at the ballot box.

Green Leader Elizabeth May certainly will have the opportunity to surpass the New Democrats if the campaign takes a negative turn for Jagmeet Singh, especially since she'll be sharing the debate stage with him. But for now, the Greens' potential is just that: potential.

There is, however, a decent chance that the New Democrats could find themselves finishing in fourth place in the House of Commons - behind the Bloc Québécois

For the Bloc this would be a revival of fortunes; it had the third-largest Commons caucus between the 1997 and 2011 federal elections.

The Poll Tracker puts the NDP and Bloc neck-and-neck in projected seat counts. If the New Democrats continue to struggle in the polls, the Bloc might be able to beat them in seats. Plucking those vulnerable NDP seats in Quebec would help it do that.

It makes for a challenging election campaign ahead for Singh. It's hard to credibly run for gold when your main problem is simply making it to the podium.

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Ask us

We want to know what YOU want to know. 

Kaya Raby asks us via email: Looking at the seat projections, how can [the Liberals'] percentage chances for "winning a majority" be higher than "winning the most seats but not a majority"?

I can see why this could be confusing. The Sept. 5 update projected 163 seats for the Liberals, short of the 170 seats needed for a majority government. It also projected a 38 per cent chance of a Liberal majority vs. only a 27 per cent chance of the Liberals winning the most seats but not a majority. How come?

Okay, strap in.

The seat projection range for the Liberals was between 104 and 218 seats,

So, the window for the Liberals to win a majority is pretty big: 170 to 218.

On the other hand, the window for them to win the most seats but NOT a majority is relatively small.

That's because as soon as they start falling below around 150 seats, the Conservatives are probably winning more than them. Which makes the range where the Liberals win a plurality but not a majority around 150 to 169 seats.

Smaller window, smaller chance of it happening.

The seat range takes into account the potential for error in the seat projection model and in the polls.
Think of it this way. If the Liberals out-perform the projection, one thing is likely to happen: they win a majority. If they under-perform the projection, there are two possible outcomes: ending up with the most seats in a minority Parliament, or ending up behind the Conservatives.

— Éric Grenier CBC Polls Analyst


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Organizer of NDP exodus was suspended by law society, disqualified from party leadership

Joyce Richardson says she turned to the Greens after being disqualified from NDP leadership race







The woman who helped instigate a botched defection of several New Democrats to the New Brunswick Green Party was once suspended from practising law in the province, and was later disqualified from running for the provincial NDP leadership, CBC News has learned.

Joyce Richardson and her son Jonathan, a former member of the federal NDP executive, organized the Sept. 3 news conference that announced the defections.

"It was mostly me and Jonathan," she said.




At that news conference, Jonathan Richardson released a list of 14 former NDP election candidates, including his mother, who he said were switching to the Greens. The number turned out to be exaggerated.

Joyce Richardson told CBC News she looked to the Greens after she was disqualified from running for the provincial NDP leadership earlier this year.

NDP officials won't say why she was disqualified during the vetting process, which was handled by the federal party on the New Brunswick party's behalf.

"It is an internal party matter," said spokesperson Nathan Davis.

Legal troubles


Publicly available court rulings show Richardson was suspended from practising law in 2010 by the New Brunswick Law Society, which enforces the code of professional conduct for lawyers.

Other rulings show that her performance as a lawyer was criticized by judges in three different cases.


"Some of the court cases might be when I first started to practise," said Richardson, who graduated from law school in 2000.

"Sometimes when you first start to practise, sometimes you make errors. Actually you make errors all the time, because that's what being human is about."

Richardson said the New Brunswick NDP executive didn't give her any reason for her rejection after vetting her.

She said she told the party about her legal troubles, just as she did when she ran provincially for the NDP last year and when she sought the party's federal nomination in 2015.

She said it didn't make sense that the suspension would count against her in 2019 if it didn't count against her during previous vettings.

In 2003, Justice Marc Richard of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal called Richardson's handling of a case "egregious" and said he was "troubled by the total disregard" she had for the rules of court.

His comments were in a ruling on Richardson's appeal of a decision in a client's custody case. The judge set out eight examples of her failing to follow proper procedures. He called her work "below the standard" of lawyers who appear at the appeal court.
Three years later, Justice Margaret Larlee also criticized Richardson for not filing the required documents in a divorce case and for not filing on time. Larlee said in her ruling the appeal had been "a waste of time" for the other side.

The same year, Court of Queen's Bench Justice William Grant said Richardson "breached the standard of care" for a lawyer when she failed to advise a client on the Kingston Peninsula that he'd have to pay deferred taxes on a parcel of land he was buying.

Richardson was later suspended by the New Brunswick Law Society. She told CBC News she had missed the deadline for paying her annual dues because she couldn't afford them.

Richardson was living in Ontario at the time but was still a member of New Brunswick's law society. She said she worked as a paralegal in Ontario and took a small claims case to court — which a non-lawyer is allowed to do in Ontario but not in New Brunswick.

"At the time it never dawned on me to look at the New Brunswick law," she said.

She attributed the lapse to being in what she called "a very abusive relationship" at the time.

"I think the stress I was going through made it really hard for me to perform to the best of my abilities. I wasn't in a state of mind of actually doing anything that would be productive."





Richardson says she doesn't understand why she was disqualified from running for the provincial NDP leadership earlier this year. (CBC)



The law society launched a disciplinary action against her for practising law while suspended, and in 2010 handed her a new five-month suspension. Richardson challenged the suspension but it was upheld by the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.

The society's registrar of complaints said she could not comment on Richardson's disciplinary case. The law society's website now lists her as "non-practising" rather than suspended.

Richardson said she ultimately met the society's conditions to end her suspension and returned to practising law. But five years ago, after a near-fatal motorcycle accident, she decided to stop practising.

She said she realized that working as a lawyer was not the best way to work on issues that mattered to her, such as children in abusive homes, senior care and the rights of children with disabilities.

"I realized that I don't have any voice in the law, because it's the judges that have the final say," she said.

Foray into politics


Instead she turned to politics and got involved with the NDP. She said she looked at running for provincial party leader in 2014, when then-leader Dominic Cardy resigned. But the party rejected his resignation and he stayed on, so there was no leadership race.

She also tried twice to be nominated as a federal NDP candidate in 2015, in Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe and in Beausejour. She said she was approved during the vetting process both times but failed to win the nominations.

And she considered running for provincial leader in 2017 but opted against it when Jennifer McKenzie declared.

"I backed away from that," said Richardson. "I decided, 'she should be the leader.'"

The NDP won no seats in last year's election and McKenzie's leadership was put to an automatic review vote at a party convention in February. She lost, 52 votes to 43.

Danny Legere, a member of the NDP's provincial council, said Joyce and Jonathan Richardson appeared to be the driving force behind the result.

"There were evidently two camps" at the February meeting, Legere said, and one was "a pro-Joyce camp."

But Richardson said she didn't orchestrate the anti-McKenzie vote.

"I made sure some people got there, but I wasn't the main organizer," she said. She didn't urge people to vote for review, she added.

"A lot of people, I told them vote for whoever you want to vote."
McKenzie's removal meant a new leadership race. Richardson filed paperwork but was rejected after she was vetted.

She said she disclosed her law society suspension with the provincial party executive and doesn't see why it would count against her when it hadn't before.

"The point is that I've been vetted three times, the last time being last year, and all of a sudden they decide not to [approve] me."

Legere says he "absolutely" sees a link between Richardson's rejection and her move to the Greens.
Richardson says she was relieved to be rejected. When the NDP failed to approve any leadership candidates and postponed the race, it became clear the party was not the vehicle for her to advance her goals, she said.

"When I can't see the vehicle to get there with the NDP, I can get there with the Greens," she said.

 "That's the only reason I decided to change from the NDP to the Greens."

'Someday I'll run for the Greens'


The Sept. 3 news conference announcing the 14 defections got a lot of attention because it came just weeks before the expected start of the federal election campaign.

But it quickly became apparent the exodus wasn't as big as advertised. By Friday the Greens said only eight of the 14 former candidates were switching.

Two former candidates staying with the NDP told CBC News that Joyce Richardson had claimed the news conference was about the two parties merging or making a co-operation deal, something she denies.

Last week New Brunswick Green leader David Coon, who attended the announcement, said he should have personally checked that all the supposed defectors were actually switching.

He said Joyce Richardson and her son Jonathan would not be playing a prominent role with the New Brunswick Greens.

"For now, they have not expressed interest in playing any roles besides being members," he said in a statement.

But Richardson says she hopes to run as a Green candidate someday so she can continue to work on the issues that got her into law and into politics.

"Someday I'll run for the Greens if they let me run, I guess," she said. "Through everything that happened last week, it's difficult."

About the Author

 




Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit. 


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