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Oh My MY Methinks many political pundits are having Deja Vu bigtime as
many comments (not just mine) go "POOF" N'esy Pas? https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/09/trudeau-snubs-munk-macleanscitytv.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-snub-debates-commision-1.5272277
Trudeau snubs Munk, Maclean's/Citytv debates but will attend commission debates
Liberal leader willing to do TVA debate if parties can agree on date
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is
committing to taking part in two federal election debates and is willing
to do a third — but will be a no-show for both the Munk and
Maclean's/Citytv debates, despite efforts to convince the Liberal leader
to take part.
The two debates that Trudeau has committed to attending are being organized by the Leaders' Debates Commission, which was established after the last election and is led by former governor general David Johnston.
"The commission was established after the last election where the governing party tried to game the system and make sure the fewest number of Canadians engaged in the debates. We think that's wrong," Daniel Lauzon, the Liberals' director of communications and policy for the campaign, said in a statement.
"The commission debates will be widely distributed on television, radio, digital and social streaming platforms and reach the largest possible audience."
The Liberals also have given a provisional yes to Quebec-based TVA to participate in a third debate if all parties can agree on a date. TVA is the only major Canadian network not included in the commission and commands the largest television audiences in Quebec.
The broadcasters taking part in the commission are:
While the Liberals are willing to do the TVA debate this time, a spokesperson says the party is trying to convince the broadcaster to participate in future commission debates.
The decision means that Trudeau will not be taking part in the Munk Debates on foreign policy, set for Oct. 1 — a debate Trudeau did take part in during the 2015 election.
It also means the prime minister will not participate in the Maclean's/Citytv leaders debate scheduled to take place September 12.
So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.
A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates.
"We know Justin Trudeau is a formidable debater, as he proved in the last election. The only reason he would have for not wanting to attend all the debates is that he's afraid to defend his record," Brock Harrison said in a statement.
During
the 2015 election, then-prime minister Stephen Harper refused to
participate in the English language debate being run by the consortium
of broadcasters, the predecessor to the commission.
Harper instead agreed to participate in the Maclean's/Citytv debate and the Globe and Mail debate, on top of the French language consortium debate, TVAs' debate and the bilingual Munk debate on foreign policy.
The opposition at the time criticized Harper's decision to snub the English language consortium debate in favour of smaller debates, some of which were only streamed online, as a move that prevented the largest possible audience from viewing the exchanges between party leaders.
Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons.
In the last election he was the third-party leader and had much to gain from engaging with other leaders at every opportunity. But as prime minister, Trudeau exposes himself to greater political risk by agreeing to additional debates.
"We're disappointed. Canadians deserve better. This is not the new politics Mr. Trudeau promised," NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said in a statement.
"It's hard to know which questions Mr. Trudeau didn't want to be accountable to. Why did you buy a pipeline? Why did you give the Weston family $12 million for fridges, but yet can't find the money for a Pharmacare program? Why do you care more about helping your wealthy friends than hard-working families?"
"I'm not surprised he doesn't want to answer these questions because he wouldn't answer me when I asked him in Parliament. But he should answer to Canadians."
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said she has mixed feelings.
May said she supports the purpose of the debate commission since she had been left off the stage in past years.
"Debates are a constant source of backroom dealing and anti-democratic collusion," she told CBC.
However, May said, she would rather see more debates than fewer, and called Trudeau's decision to skip out on the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates a "shame."
The Liberals say Trudeau's refusal to do more than three debates is about logistics. The election hasn't officially started but it will be a more conventional five or six-week campaign, not the marathon writ period of 2015. Each debate takes several days of preparation and limits the campaign's ability to travel away from the debate sites — which are exclusively in Ontario and Quebec.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesThe two debates that Trudeau has committed to attending are being organized by the Leaders' Debates Commission, which was established after the last election and is led by former governor general David Johnston.
"The commission was established after the last election where the governing party tried to game the system and make sure the fewest number of Canadians engaged in the debates. We think that's wrong," Daniel Lauzon, the Liberals' director of communications and policy for the campaign, said in a statement.
"The commission debates will be widely distributed on television, radio, digital and social streaming platforms and reach the largest possible audience."
The Liberals also have given a provisional yes to Quebec-based TVA to participate in a third debate if all parties can agree on a date. TVA is the only major Canadian network not included in the commission and commands the largest television audiences in Quebec.
- CBC News.
- Radio-Canada.
- Global News.
- CTV News.
- The Toronto Star and the Torstar chain.
- HuffPost Canada.
- HuffPost Quebec.
- La Presse.
- Le Devoir.
- L'Actualité.
While the Liberals are willing to do the TVA debate this time, a spokesperson says the party is trying to convince the broadcaster to participate in future commission debates.
'A formidable debater'
The decision means that Trudeau will not be taking part in the Munk Debates on foreign policy, set for Oct. 1 — a debate Trudeau did take part in during the 2015 election.
It also means the prime minister will not participate in the Maclean's/Citytv leaders debate scheduled to take place September 12.
So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.
A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates.
"We know Justin Trudeau is a formidable debater, as he proved in the last election. The only reason he would have for not wanting to attend all the debates is that he's afraid to defend his record," Brock Harrison said in a statement.
Harper instead agreed to participate in the Maclean's/Citytv debate and the Globe and Mail debate, on top of the French language consortium debate, TVAs' debate and the bilingual Munk debate on foreign policy.
The opposition at the time criticized Harper's decision to snub the English language consortium debate in favour of smaller debates, some of which were only streamed online, as a move that prevented the largest possible audience from viewing the exchanges between party leaders.
Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons.
In the last election he was the third-party leader and had much to gain from engaging with other leaders at every opportunity. But as prime minister, Trudeau exposes himself to greater political risk by agreeing to additional debates.
"We're disappointed. Canadians deserve better. This is not the new politics Mr. Trudeau promised," NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said in a statement.
"It's hard to know which questions Mr. Trudeau didn't want to be accountable to. Why did you buy a pipeline? Why did you give the Weston family $12 million for fridges, but yet can't find the money for a Pharmacare program? Why do you care more about helping your wealthy friends than hard-working families?"
"I'm not surprised he doesn't want to answer these questions because he wouldn't answer me when I asked him in Parliament. But he should answer to Canadians."
Green Party Leader Elizabeth May said she has mixed feelings.
May said she supports the purpose of the debate commission since she had been left off the stage in past years.
"Debates are a constant source of backroom dealing and anti-democratic collusion," she told CBC.
However, May said, she would rather see more debates than fewer, and called Trudeau's decision to skip out on the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates a "shame."
The Liberals say Trudeau's refusal to do more than three debates is about logistics. The election hasn't officially started but it will be a more conventional five or six-week campaign, not the marathon writ period of 2015. Each debate takes several days of preparation and limits the campaign's ability to travel away from the debate sites — which are exclusively in Ontario and Quebec.
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Rick Ward
JT wants to control the narrative....what a better way to that than avoiding an environment wheras he could be asked some pointed questions that he is unable to answer on the spot.....surprised he is not demanding a list of the questions in advance so he can "study" what the response should be........the man is not a quick thinker on his feet for sure
David Amos
Reply to @rick ward: I concur
Larry Porter
Where is the PPC they have a full slate of candidates. Why is the Bloc included? They are not a national party!! Has nobody got the gonads to throw them out? Lets hear from everybody not the chosen ones!!
David Amos
Reply to @Larry
Porter: Methinks you should say hey to your hero the politcal lawyer
Maxime Bernier for me EH?. Trust that everybody knows he has had Hard
Copy of my lawsuits etc since he first became a Cabinet Minister for
Harper in 2006 now you do too N'esy Pas?
Rick Ward
Plucky Chicken wants to be in control of the narrative. Drunk on their own arrogance recently scribed a CBC reporter in reference to the current regime in Ottawa.
David Amos
Reply to @rick ward: Methinks the worm is turning N'esy Pas?
Rick Ward
Reply to @David Amos: methink u right dave....but u think it will have any impact?
David Amos
Reply to @rick ward:
Methinks the tune the fat lady sings in October will the true tale until
then its just hot air Everybody knows I look forward to playing my part
in the circus in Fundy Royal again Even the Rhino Party is making the
scene this time Now thats truly funny N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
"Methinks.......N'esy Pas"..... theres a bubble over flowing with tears.
David Amos
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Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should quit laughing and starting reading all my comments N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Oh My My Did I strike another nerve?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: is that your intention? for that to happen you would first need to find an iota of significance. . you have none.
David Amos
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Reply to @donald
craig: Methinks desperate conservatives post desperate things I bet many
liberals are wondering how much of your malicious nonsense has been
"Disabled" No doubt you know why I would have loved to read it N'esy
Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Find my blog and you can read my reply
Donald Craig
Liberal in a bubble...."methinks"....lolol.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks a lot of folks would agree that I should ask if you bother to read anything and think about it before you offer your two bits worth N'esy Pas?
Larry Porter
Reply to @David Amos: Me thinks you over stayed you day pass from the home!! N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Larry Porter: Methinks you should find your conscience N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: I will when you will! Nasty Paws!!
David Amos
Reply to @Larry
Porter: Methinks you buddy Maxime Bernier and his liberal foes have no
doubt that I am about to make you rather infamous byway a certain blog
and Twitter as well N'esy Pas?
Larry Porter
Reply to @Larry Porter: The deed is done
Donald Craig
Virtually no one believes any Liberal. such as the UnSourced anecdote from MacKenna, that was yesterdays clickbait.
David Amos
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Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should find what remains of my comments in yesterday's "clickbait" because this comment section is still open and now I am talking about you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Oh My MY Methinks many political pundits are having Deja Vu bigtime as many comments (not just mine) go "POOF" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methnks thats just more proof of the pudding N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @donald craig: Methinks everybody knows the reason why I did not offer many comments about McKenna's woes yesterday Sometimes less is more N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: You can read one of my replies in Twitter
David Amos
Methinks out of the gate in another article CBC does a fairly good job of explaining why Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger does not wish to debate his opponents as much as he did 4 years ago N'esy Pas?
Why Justin Trudeau's main foe in 2019 is the Justin Trudeau of 2015
A leader who frames every issue around ideals can expect blowback when he can't - or won't - live up to them
Aaron Wherry · CBC News · Posted: Sep 07, 2019 4:00 AM ET
"The Justin Trudeau of 2019 — the leader who is now seeking re-election — is not the Justin Trudeau of 2015, the young politician who became Canada's 23rd prime minister on a sunny day in November four years ago.
For one thing, the Trudeau of 2019 now knows exactly how much trouble can result when you make an open-ended, but absolute, promise to implement electoral reform.
The promises of 2015 (simple and aspirational) have become an actual record of governing (messy and imperfect). Not everything went according to plan. Some things didn't get done. There is now a list of missteps and controversies for Trudeau's political opponents to recite and dwell upon, from a vacation on the Aga Khan's island to the SNC-Lavalin affair. If Trudeau was a different kind of politician in 2015, he is now some degree closer to being just another politician in 2019."
Robert Romano
Trudeau shying away from any camera is highly unusual so why isn’t he attending all the debates? Maybe he doesn’t want to attend any open debates where the candidates NOT get the questions before hand. Sad because this is one of the only times we get to see the leaders answering questions, unlike the HoC question period!
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Romano: BINGO
BROCK Blakely
I listened to some of the old debates and Justin won’t allow Harper to answer any questions without talking over him, very rude. Hopefully the moderator could be more independent instead of supporting the left
David Amos
Reply to @BROCK blakely: Cry me a river
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: lolololol. "Methinks" lolololol.. how ironic
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Who is crying now?
David Amos
Hmmm
"The Leaders' Debate Commission, the body organizing two major federal election debates, has invited the leaders of five political parties to participate with the notable exception of People's Party Leader Maxime Bernier.
He has been left off the list, at least for now.
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet, Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer, Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, Liberal Party Leader Justin Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh have secured tickets to the Oct. 7 English-language debate and the French-language affair on Oct. 10."
Methinks all the other party leaders must be relieved by the fact that it appears Harper 2.0's lawyer buddy Bernier is persona non grata at all the debates N'esy Pas?
"So far, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May have all agreed to participate in the Munk and Maclean's/Citytv debates.
A spokesperson for the Conservative Party said the debates are about Canadians, not the leaders, and Scheer would be attending all election debates."
David Amos
Whereas Trudeau is ducking debates just like Harper did last time methinks my fellow Maritimers may enjoy a little Deja Vu about the last time all the political parties focused on the middle class and jobs etc N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks some folks my enjoy the reading the comment section as well N'esy Pas?
Brian Spence
Zombie Harp was not invited to the debates.
Although he is convinced that he still controls the free world, wisdom prevailed.
Stephan Harper will not be coming back for you.
He has your money, that's enough.
David Amos
Reply to @Brian Spence: Methinks Harper 2.0 will be in all the debates following his orders N'esy Pas?
Gary Barrat
complete bias . the debates are all liberal forums !
David Amos
Reply to @Gary Barratt: Methinks if that were true then Trudeau should attend them all N'esy Pas?
"Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons."
"Trudeau was keen to participate in multiple debates in 2015 — an election that saw the longest campaign period in modern Canadian history. But Trudeau's critics now argue that he is cherry-picking debates for political reasons."
David Amos
Methinks Trudeau is acting more and more like Harper N'esy Pas?
Brett
Mclaughlan
Reply to @David Amos:
in what respect, because in some that would require a massive
improvement by the PM, nothing indicates that he is capable of that
David Amos
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Reply to @Brett
Mclaughlan: Google CBC Fundy Royal and read my comments 2 days before
the last polling day while your hero Harper was still the Prime Minister
and Scheer was still the Speaker
David Amos
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Go figure why my reply was blocked
Brett Mclaughlan
Ironically if the sitting PM does not attend a debate the others should also cancel, why should they all subject themselves to debate and potentially damage if the others aren't there, there is no upside to Trudeau debating, and it seems his team has realized that. Others should consider that these other appearances have more downside than up
David Amos
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Surely you jest
Brett Mclaughlan
Reply to @David Amos: surely not, but what's your perspective,
David Amos
Reply to @Brett
Mclaughlan: Whereas I have nothing to hide I am often barred from
debates because the media and their political cohorts are afraid that
folks will find out why I was illegally from all the parliamentary
properties in Canada Hence unlike your political heroes I debate them
every chance I get.
Brett Mclaughlan
Reply to @David Amos: that is a lot of words for not even an incoherent thought to emerge, do try to be succinct and relevant
David Amos
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Google Fundy Royal Debate or simply my name
Corby Amano
Reply to @Brett Mclaughlan: Im with you. Thats a great idea but knowing Justin this won't fly
Richard Lane
If you want to know the Character of someone in the Liberal Party; just check out those Conservative Election ads about their leaders. They have all proven to be very accurate.
"Just Visiting|" Michael Ignatieff......stuck around for appearances for a while...then bolted the country after they rejected him.
"Not ready"....of course, this is Justin Trudeau....and he proves he's "not ready" every time an issue more difficult than sock selection presents itself.
David Amos
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks its interesting that Rogers Media is not on your list N'esy Pas?
Richard Lane
Sooo.......these are the folks making up the "Commission" eh?
CBC News.
Radio-Canada.
Global News.
CTV News.
The Toronto Star and the Torstar chain.
HuffPost Canada.
HuffPost Quebec.
La Presse.
Le Devoir.
L'Actualité.
Tell me again how it was the Conservatives who were trying to control the debates in their favour?
Looks like a laundry list of Liberal lovers; and Conservative haters. (except maybe Global)
But I bet Global would not have been approved post SNC.
David Amos
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks CTV would strongly disagree with your opinion of them N'esy Pas?
Rob Seitl
Checked that list of broadcasters on that commission on media bias fact check website, all lean centre left, no wonder Trudeau will only participate in their debates! All Liberal friendly
Richard Lane
Reply to @Rob Seitl:
Yep....trudeau has a hard enough time answering simple questions; even
when they have been given to him ahead of them being asked......He
wouldn't last long at a MONK debate.
David Amos
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks you should explain to the folks how he became the PM N'esy Pas?
Louise Fribance
Of course he’ll go on debates sponsored by the only media he’s supporting financially. What a coward he is.
David Amos
Reply to @Louise Fribance: I agree
Stan Brown
“Umm ahh err I’m not going in debates because I’m top busy helping the middle class and saving the environment all at the same time..”
David Amos
Reply to @Stan Brown:
Methinks he has not done much to benefit the middle class or the
environment over the past four years N'esy Pas?
Larry Porter
Because the most intelligent thing about JT is his socks!! And answering questions is not his bag!!
ABL 2019
David Amos
Reply to @Larry
Porter: What is with Conservative people constantly talking about the
dude's socks? Methinks there are far more important issues to address
N'esy Pas?
Eric Biallas
'Chicken Man"
David Amos
Reply to @Eric Biallas: Methinks that must be witty for a Conservative N'esy Pas?
Phil Karza
If I were Trudeau, I would be wary of debating my record, too. He has a lot of 'splaining to do.
David Amos
Reply to @Phil Karza: YUP
April Wong
CH IC KEN.............gotta make sure they are scripted in Liberal friendly environments...some LEADER !
David Amos
Reply to @april wong: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger is afraid to debate the circus he created N'esy Pas?
Jeff Bonzo
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Nothing to debate here... trudeau is the worst PM in Canadian history. Its a fact.
David Amos
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Reply to @Jeff Bonzo: Methinks many folks strongly disagree with you without further input from me N'esy Pas?
Daryll Mcbain
Trudeau can’t debate with unscripted questions.
David Amos
Reply to @Daryll Mcbain: True
Laine Smith
So the Coles notes version
Trudeau will only attend 2 debates hosted by a large group of left leaning media that he recently gave 600 million to..
David Allan
Reply to @Laine Smith:
Postmedia is left leaning?
Wow, you're so far right that Mussolini is left of you.
David Amos
Reply to @Laine Smith: Methinks many except the people working for CTV would agree that is it in a nutshell N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: the Forrest, Forrest Gump point of view. which side of Forrest are you on?
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks Mr Gump would agree that Stupid Is As Stupid Does N'esy Pas?
Paul Ethier
Trudeau tells Canadians he has no time for election debates but takes day to attend NETFLIX Hasan Minhaj show. Arrogance and condescending hypocrisy defines inept Trudeau.
David Allan
Reply to @Paul Ethier:
"Trudeau tells Canadians he has no time for election debates but takes day to attend NETFLIX Hasan Minhaj show."
Which debate did he miss to do that?
Oh, none.
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Ethier: Oh So True
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: 67000+ congrats on you missing the real world.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks many would agree that you are the dude who is lost in cyberspace N'esy Pas?
Jack Lester
if a PM can't stand up and defend his 4 years in government he doesn't deserve re election ABL
David Allan
Reply to @jack lester:
"if a PM can't stand up and defend his 4 years in government he doesn't deserve re election ABL"
Agreed.
That doesn't actually fit the reality of this situation.
Trudeau is still attending debates.
He just took a page from the CPC Harper book on not attending all debates.
David Amos
Reply to @jack lester: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
David Amos
Reply to @David Allan: BINGO and look who is gone
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Allan: lolol. too funny 67000+ talking about reality.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks you should tell your heroes Mr Scheer and Mr Bernier that you have a thing for Mr Allan and mean old me N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: "Methinks" that you should stop flogging your wee lapdog for at least 5 minutes per day. lololol.
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: "methinks" you couldnt be more insignificant "N'esy-pas".
David Amos
Reply to @donald
craig: Methinks you should Google your name and mine sometime when you
are done abusing your wee little lapdog N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: a perfunctory search of "David Amos". viola.. .
pictures of insignificant clowns.
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: lol the originality of the insignificant.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Methinks a very nervous conservative also found my blog N'esy Pas?
Marlene Lauder
I guess Quebecers don’t care that he is unethical.
At least that is what JT thinks.
Hope they don’t believe his sickening rationale
David Amos
Reply to @Marlene Lauder: Methinks you forgot the Orange Wave that sunk the liberals years ago I bet the current NDP leader/lawyer has not N'esy Pas?
Donald Craig
Reply to @David Amos: Ontario will be between Orange (inner TO & Ham, some NOnt) and Blue. Libs will not get 10 seats here.
David Amos
Reply to @donald craig: Dream on
Douglas Locke
Does it really matter? Is there any Canadian that still believes anything JT says??
David Amos
Reply to @Douglas Locke: Methinks everybody knows I never did and thats only one of the many reasons why I am running again N'esy Pas?
Jace Braidwith
The Liberal strategy backroom brain trust are pretty shrewd. They probably figure that they're lucky they're still even with the Conservatives. So, the less that Canadian voters see of Trudeau in the campaign, perhaps struggling to form a coherent sentence without the usual dull platitudes, the better.
David Amos
Reply to @Jace Braidwith: Methinks they are not all that shrewd with Mr Butts still overseeing the circus N'esy Pas?
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