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NDP should have pushed for a shorter supply and confidence deal with the Liberals, Broadbent says

 THIS IS TRULY A CIRCUS THE REASON PETERSON CRIES IS OBVIOUS TO ME
 
 
 

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THIS IS TRULY A CIRCUS THE REASON PETERSON CRIES IS OBVIOUS TO ME
 
 
 
 

In 2004 I wished Broadbent good luck as I ran against him and his cohorts. However it did not take long for me to discover my respect for him was misplaced.

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Sunday, 8 October 2023

NDP should have pushed for a shorter supply and confidence deal with
the Liberals, Broadbent says
 
 
 
 

NDP should have pushed for a shorter supply and confidence deal with the Liberals, Broadbent says

Former NDP leader also says 2008 Liberal-NDP coalition agreement was 'a mistake'

The party and the Liberals signed an agreement in March 2022 that secures NDP support for the minority Liberal government in exchange for a commitment to act on key NDP priorities. That agreement is slated to be in place until 2025.

In an interview on Rosemary Barton Live airing Sunday, Broadbent said that bumps up close against the next scheduled federal election.

"It's a 'getting credit' issue," he told CBC chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton of the deal. "The good things that are there, and there are many good things, Liberals of course will be taking credit."

"It's a matter of having time for us, for the NDP, to make its voice known. So maybe if the agreement were a year shorter, it might be a little better."

The supply and confidence agreement includes, among other initiatives, commitments to act on dental care, universal national pharmacare and housing.

Broadbent does, however, praise Singh and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for building security mechanisms into the agreement that, he says, were sorely missed in the failed 2008 coalition agreement between the NDP and the Liberals that he helped negotiate.

The current agreement includes quarterly meetings between Singh and Trudeau and monthly 'stock-take' meetings by an oversight group tasked with monitoring overall progress on key commitments.

2008 deal 'a mistake'

Broadbent sat down with Barton to discuss his new book Seeking Social Democracy: Seven Decades in the Fight for Equality, which includes a frank assessment of the 2008 Liberal-NDP coalition agreement.

"I have since come to think that the coalition agreement was a mistake," Broadbent says in the book.

"We saw an opening to oust Stephen Harper and bring in a progressive agenda in response to the economic situation, which in principle seemed like a good idea," said Broadbent. "But we got it wrong."

Following then-Conservative Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's fall economic update in 2008, the Liberals and the NDP negotiated a coalition agreement to oust the minority Conservatives from power. That agreement included a written pledge of support from the Bloc Québécois because the Liberals and the NDP didn't have enough combined seats to form a majority government.

But before the three parties could bring down the government in a vote of confidence, Governor General Michaëlle Jean, at the request of Prime Minister Harper, agreed to prorogue Parliament, effectively delaying the vote of confidence.

A man in a suit sits at a table, looking forward. Two Canadian flags are behind him. The proroguing of Parliament and resignation of Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion ended any prospect of a Liberal-NDP coalition government in 2008. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)

By the time Parliament resumed, Stéphane Dion had resigned as Liberal leader and his successor, Michael Ignatieff, had agreed to support a new Conservative budget — ending any prospect of a Liberal-NDP coalition government.

"With all the advantage of hindsight, it probably was a mistake to try to negotiate with someone that was in such a weak political position," Broadbent told Barton, referring to Dion.

Broadbent also writes in the book that the parties involved in the coalition attempt failed to predict Harper's "wicked and misleading attack on the agreement."

Harper was "practising very devious politics indeed when he attacked that process as being illegitimate," Broadbent said in the interview.

"He portrayed them as being anti-democratic and that's totally ridiculous. Coalitions are very democratic."

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David R. Amos
Way back in 2004 I wished Ed Broadbent good luck in writing as I ran against him and his cohorts. However it did not take long for me to discover my respect for him was misplaced.

That time former NDP Leader Ed Broadbent made a comeback with a rap video

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He stepped down as Leader in 1989, but came out of retirement for 2004 federal election

CBC Archives · Posted: Jun 15, 2019 9:30 AM ADT

 
 
 
Michael Maynard 
CBC targeting IP addresses for deactivation.
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Michael Maynard  
Hmmm 
 
 
Grant Bryck.
Reply to Michael Maynard
They have to be. Nobody can be a speed reader with a deactivation immediately after posting.

 
Michael Maynard
Reply to Grant Bryck
Exactly. Any historic deactivation they are watching. 
 
 
 
 
 
Don Corey

Who cares what Broadbent has to say? He was no different from the politicians of today's era.....they're all in it for (1) themselves and (2) the party.

Forget about what's best for Canada, and hard working/tax paying Canadians.


Norm Mohamid
Reply to Don Corey
As a retired civil servant, the longest line for handouts from 'hard working/ tax paying Canadians' was always businesses; large and small. The amounts of $$ were never small - $3rd of a billion for an internet cable network that never got built (Mike Harris); 100$ of millions in tax writeoffs for developers for low cost housing that never got built (Mike Harris and Dalton McGuinty); $800 million for private nursing home construction (Doug Ford) - the list is endless.


Ed Wallis
Reply to Norm Mohamid
The longest lineups for handouts were your union and the billions that civil servants costs to have 10 people do the job that one could do in the private sector.


Alexandros Papadiamandis
Reply to Ed Wallis
Taxation is a protection racket. Period.


David R. Amos
Reply to Ed Wallis
Amen

 
Don Corey 
Reply to Norm Mohamid
Hope you're enjoying retirement, with your generous civil servant indexed pension. Do you think you guys come free of charge to taxpayers?

As to the business handouts, who do you think approves them? Answer = politicians representing the stripe of the day. They all do it.

 

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That time former NDP Leader Ed Broadbent made a comeback with a rap video

He stepped down as Leader in 1989, but came out of retirement for 2004 federal election

After 15 years out of politics, Ed Broadbent was making a return in 2004 and running for election as an MP again. And the 68-year-old even had a song to go with it.

"Float like a butterfly/Sting like a bee/It's time for voting NDP," the former NDP leader rapped in the video for Ed's Back!, which could be seen on his campaign's website. 

Carol MacIvor, a worker at Broadbent's Ottawa campaign office, said website hits had gone "through the roof" since the rap video had been posted a week earlier. (Canada Now/CBC Archives)

The video had originally been made by an independent production company for the CBC program This Hour Has 22 Minutes.

"But the Ed's Back! video never made it to air because of concerns it lacked balance," explained CBC reporter Danny Globerman. 

The NDP campaign, however, was happy to use the video on its website, sending traffic "through the roof," according to campaign worker Carol MacIvor. 

"Reaction to it has been absolutely amazing," she said.

According to the Globe and Mail, the video had been downloaded from NDP websites 13,000 times in four days — almost as much as the party platform had been.

Conservative call-out 

In the riding, Ottawa Centre, opponent Mike Murphy's Conservative campaign had a beef with Broadbent.

"The true market cost of that video is at a number significantly in excess of a campaign contribution limit," said Tom Thompson, a staffer for Conservative candidate Mike Murphy. (Canada Now/CBC Archives)

"The true market cost of that video is significantly at a number in excess of the campaign contribution limit," said staffer Tom Thompson.

Murphy's team had registered a complaint regarding the video with the Chief Electoral Officer — but the video's creator said no money had changed hands.

"It's a business transaction, a licensing issue," said Barry Caplan of TV Factory.

"We would normally just charge a small fee for someone to put it up on their website, but since Ed [appeared in the video] for nothing, we decided to give it to him for nothing."

Back at Broadbent HQ, MacIvor threw shade on the Murphy team's gambit.

"Frankly, we know we're ahead. And they're behind," she said. "They're trying to sling some mud and it's not working."

According to the Globe and Mail, Broadbent "handily" won the seat in Ottawa Centre in the election of June 28, 2004.

 

 

Automatic reply: In 2004 I wished Broadbent good luck as I ran against him and his cohorts. However it did not take long for me to discover my respect for him was misplaced.


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