Friday 27 October 2023

Throne speech passes, but Higgs continues preparing for election

 
 

Throne speech passes, but Higgs continues preparing for election

All 6 PC MLAs who defied him in June fall in line for vote endorsing speech

The Higgs government has survived a confidence vote in the New Brunswick legislature, a key moment as Premier Blaine Higgs mulls a possible early election call. 

All six Progressive Conservative MLAs who broke ranks with the premier in the spring to vote with the Opposition Liberals on Policy 713 fell in line Friday morning, supporting the government.

The motion to support the Oct. 17 throne speech passed 27-19.

Just ahead of that vote, a Liberal amendment declaring no confidence in the government was defeated by the same margin, with those six PC MLAs voting against the motion.

Had either vote gone the other way, it would have triggered an election.

WATCH | With the throne speech behind him, what does the premier have to say about an election?
 

Higgs still mulling snap election

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Premier Blaine Higgs says his party will continue to prepare for an election — but he won't say when that will be.

But Higgs retains the discretion to call one, something he again refused to rule out on Friday.

"We will continue to make preparations and be ready, because I think it's the prudent thing to do," he told reporters. 

"We have activities underway in that regard, and we are just going to be election ready."

Asked if he would be at the legislature for next week's scheduled sittings, Higgs said, "At this point, I intend to be."

Of the six MLAs who voted against Higgs in the spring, only one, Daniel Allain, has agreed to meet with him one-on-one to smooth over their differences.

Higgs has said for several weeks he may need an election to give his government stability because of the five holdouts.

The premier said their vote in favour of his agenda Friday was a good sign but he doesn't want to declare every vote on every bill a confidence vote to keep them onboard.

Higgs has complained about the five MLAs' refusal to meet with him one-on-one rather than as a group and their tough questioning of government officials during public accounts committee meetings.

He also says at least one of them has posted criticism on social media, though he won't identify which one.

Opposition Liberal Leader Susan Holt, who had tried to persuade some of the five to support her non-confidence motion, said they fell in line for Friday's vote because "I think they want to keep their jobs." 

Friday's vote happened in the wake of a dramatic about-face by Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau about the federal carbon tax — an issue Higgs has been using to hammer the provincial Liberals for months.

Trudeau announced late Thursday that the tax won't apply to home heating oil for three years, giving people time to take advantage of a new federal program to help pay for the installation of heat pumps that use less energy and reduce emissions.

A woman wearing a blazer and blouse, gesturing with her hands as she speaks into a microphone, with four people behind her looking on. Liberal Leader Susan Holt says it's encouraging to see the prime minister taking action on commitments to 'affordability measures.' (Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick)

He also announced that the top-up on carbon tax rebates for rural residents will increase from 10 to 20 per cent.

Higgs had been urging Holt to join him in pressuring Ottawa to scrap the tax altogether.

On Friday, Holt contrasted Trudeau's announcement to Higgs's refusal to deliver new inflation-relief measures that his government promised a month ago. 

"It's encouraging to see at least one leader that's committing to affordability measures and then acting on them," she said.

But the premier said Holt's statement about Trudeau was itself a reversal.

"It's nice to see the leader of the Opposition all of a sudden think Trudeau is doing the right thing," he said. "What have we been talking about the last four months? … That should have happened long ago."

Higgs's government announced its own heat-pump program in 2022 that offers a free unit and free installation to households with baseboard electric heating and incomes below $70,000. 

It was later expanded to cover homes that heat with oil.

But there have been concerns that the supply of heat pumps and the availability of trained installers hasn't been enough to keep up with demand for the program.

A bald man in a suit and tie is standing and speaking. Green Party Leader David Coon says people would be 'furious' if Higgs triggered an election at a time of year when the weather can be unpredictable and snowy. (The Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick)

Higgs said it's "a serious question" whether the same challenges will affect the rollout of the federal program, which will offer its own grants. 

On election timing, both Holt and Green Party Leader David Coon said there isn't much more time for Higgs to trigger a campaign without running the risk of having candidates and voters on the roads during unpredictable snowy weather.

By law an election called now would happen Nov. 27. But if there's no call by Monday it would have to be Dec. 4.

"People would be furious," Coon said.

Holt said her party was getting ready while looking at "that last possible date.… We think there's still another week of waiting until we're into really unrealistic timing from the premier."

Higgs pointedly noted to reporters that Holt has no say in when the election is held. 

"That's not her call, is it?" 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

 
Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
107 Comments
 


David R. Amos
Why is it that nobody was surprised?
 
 
Dan Lee 
Reply to David R. Amos
why did the chicken crossed the roads........... beccause they were chickens  
 
 
 
 
 
Alison Jackson 
Susan Holt, want to win us over? Verbally say you have zero problem holding Irving accountable for their tax evasions among other things. Only NB politician who ever said that was when Jenica Atwin was with the Greens, she won by 34% of the vote over 7 candidates in Freddy in 2019. Among the people of NB, Irving's accountability is pretty much in the top 5 issues. 
 
 
Dan Lee 
Reply to Alison Jackson 
just imagine...you cant even cut your firewood on crown land anymore......its reserved for............
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Alison Jackson 
There is more to that story 
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Dan Lee
Go figure 


Michael Cain  
Reply to Alison Jackson
One of the largest employers in the province? Don't think so.  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Dan Lee
You mean you got firewood for free? Or can you not apply for the wood and pay a royalty?  
 
 
Dan Lee 
Reply to Michael Cain
no i meant i used to get a permit for 5 chords...now you cant  
 
 
Michael Cain 
Reply to Dan Lee  
There is a reason, you just have not been told. 
 
 
Timothy Walton
Reply to Alison Jackson 
A longtime Red Tory told me that many shifted their vote to Atwin because they weren't comfortable voting Conservative.  
 
 
Marcel Belanger 
Reply to Dan Lee
Just go and cut some on the crown lands, there are practically no government agents checking those woods. 
 
 
Dianne MacPherson
Reply to Timothy Walton   
I may not be a 'Red Tory' but I wouldn't

vote for Andrew Sheer(?) so my vote

did indeed go to Ms. Atwin.

I was very disappointed that her position

with the Green Party did not pan out.

Would I vote for her today ?? NOPE.

 
 
 
 
Shawn Tabor
Its too cold and snowy for an election, wait for summer. LOL
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Shawn Tabor
Why? Nobody cares anyway 
 
 
Shawn Tabor
Reply to David R. Amos
It does really seem that way, i know maybe a few that care. But a futile effort, higher taxes and death, yes 
 
 

Ralph Skavinsky 
I think I might have mentioned that there would be no election now...try theSpring? I of course stand to be corrected in said assumptions.
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
No you didn't , but nice try . No election by the way . Fairy tales , nothing more .  
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky 
Reply to Lou Bell  
Lou..then you haven't been following chat as I am periodically here and yep did in fact many times say it. 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
Nope , haven't seen them . But they were probably all one after the other and I missed the 3 minutes of fame . 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
And under what name ? 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Reply to Ralph Skavinsky
You may have , just not under Slavinsky I'm sure .
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky 
Reply to Lou Bell  
No fame Lou..just facts...but in fairness to you I don't live here as some seem to do.
 
 
Ralph Skavinsky 
Reply to Lou Bell
Okay, give it up Lou..you lose on this one as what I say is factual...ask David Amos.hes an honest guy..and there are others who might be a little shy but do know of which I speak  
 
 
Ronald McCallum 
Reply to Lou Bell  
"No you didn't , but nice try . No election by the way . Fairy tales , nothing more ."

WHY do you say that there will be NO election on the way?

 
 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Hope all Liberals want , no election till next year .  
 
 
David R. Amos 
Reply to Lou Bell 
Jenni Byrne should agree that even a busted clock is correct twice a day  
 
 
 
 
Marc LeBlanc  
Sad. We deserve more than this. We're better than this
 
 
SW Home
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Reply to Marc LeBlanc 
Higgs is a train wreck and he is about to send NB over a cliff   
 
 
David R. Amos
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Reply to Marc LeBlanc 
The truly sad part is the turncoat will likely get reelected Hence we get the governments we deserve 
 
 
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman   
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🐔 
 
 
Andrew Clarkson
Reply to Kyle Woodman
I like chicken. Maybe a little gravy! 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
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Reply to Andrew Clarkson  
Quarter chicken dark?
 
 
David R. Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
As for me how about a white quarter with some spuds and a boatload of gravy please? 
 
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Welcome to the Circus. 


David R. Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
Pass the peanuts   
 
 
Kyle Woodman
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Reply to David R. Amos
Sorry for using your signature line David. In your absence, I was trying to keep it alive. Now that you're back, I'll defer to your discretion on welcoming people to the circus. 
 
 
David R. Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
No need to apologize I believe in Free Speech and I was not the first to employ that expression 
 
 
David R. Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
No need to apologize  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Bill to give police power to arrest people for trespassing draws skepticism

Approach 'too simplistic,' says John Wishart, Chamber of Commerce for Greater Moncton CEO

A plan to give peace officers the power to arrest people for trespassing is being met with skepticism by some and hope by others that it will help address issues business owners have faced around panhandling and loitering on their property.

On Tuesday, Public Safety Minister Kris Austin introduced a bill in the legislature he says would give police and bylaw officers "more teeth" to enforce the province's Trespass Act.

Bill 7, an Act to Amend the Trespass Act, would give peace officers not just the ability to arrest people suspected of trespassing, but would also give them the authority to arrest someone who has recently left a property they are suspected to have trespassed on.

"I think it's a little bit too simplistic in terms of a solution," said John Wishart, CEO of the Chamber of Commerce for Greater Moncton.

"It's part of a solution, if it can be executed right, but we need those more fundamental things like mental health, addiction [services] and affordable housing, essentially to really make it work."

Kris Austin speaks to reporters in the rotunda of the New Brunswick Legislature. Public Safety Minister Kris Austin says proposed amendments to the Trespass Act will give police and bylaw officers more power to enforce the act. (Mikael Mayer/Radio-Canada)

Speaking to reporters after introducing the amendments, Austin said they were prompted in part by complaints from business owners in urban areas who feel enough isn't being done about people occupying the doorways to their stores and other areas of their property.

"Businesses are frustrated because the police don't have the clarity of legislation to be able to issue citations or to be able to, you know, do what needs to be done to get these people off the property," Austin said.

The intent behind this, he said, is "to clarify what it means to trespass, and to ensure that both bylaw enforcement and police have what they need to do their job."

Social services first

Asked if it's fair to target people seeking shelter in doorways who are not bothering anyone, Austin said the issue is a bother to business owners.

"I get emails regularly from business owners that say they're finding needles on their doorsteps, they're finding feces and vomit on their front doors, and business owners, they're trying to run a business."

Wishart said he has heard of similar experiences from businesses in the Moncton area and understands Austin's intent to address that issue.

However, he said he's concerned the new powers will put added pressure on police and bylaw enforcement officers.

He said he also thinks there are social services that should be bolstered first, before giving police more powers under the Trespass Act.

"This provincial government just recorded a $1-billion surplus," he said

"Surely we have the fiscal capacity to spend some on affordable housing, mental health and addiction services, along with beefing up our our Trespass Act. So I think that's a big missing element in the provincial response."

Asked Tuesday about spending on social supports to better address the issue, Austin said his government has a minister "working on housing" and another minister responsible for addictions and mental health, who is "aggressively working on addiction recovery for people" facing it.

CBC News asked for interviews with the Fredericton and Saint John chambers of commerce.

In an emailed statement, Morgan Peters, policy manager with the Fredericton chamber, said his organization has heard more and more concerns from members about thefts, trespassing, violence and public drug use.

""Each level of government has levers at their disposal, and we hope they use them," he said. "We haven't had time to fully evaluate and understand Bill 7, but what I can tell you is that we certainly hope reducing criminal acts against small businesses continues to be an active conversation."

Saint John Chamber of Commerce CEO David Duplisea said, in an email, his organization has heard from businesses that they are struggling with what appears to be rising crime in theft and vandalism.

Amendments misdirected, say addiction workers

Ensemble Moncton offers harm-reduction services to people struggling with addiction, and executive director Debby Warren said she thinks efforts to amend the Trespass Act are misdirected.

Warren said some of her clients have "high-acuity" needs due to mental health conditions, however, the housing to cater to those needs isn't available.

Woman with grey hair in living room Debby Warren, executive director of Ensemble Moncton, says the provincial government should focus its efforts instead on improving access to mental health and addiction services. (Alexandre Silberman/CBC)

"[Austin's] legislation isn't going to change anything. The people that we serve will still be unhoused. They'll have to go someplace to sleep," Warren said.

"And so, you know, bylaw officers can come and tell them to move, but where [do] they go?"

Dr. Sara Davidson, medical director at River Stone Recovery Centre in Fredericton, said she thinks the proposed amendments are further "attempts at regulating homelessness" through the legal system.

"What we're being left with is these blunts approaches of trying to make homelessness go away through legal means, but it's really going to create a lot of suffering," she said.

Davidson said with the province reporting large budget surpluses, some of that money should be invested "heavily" into creating more affordable housing for people struggling with homelessness.

Arrest won't be first option: police rep

The proposed amendments come after Austin toured the province this past summer to consult local police departments on a multi-faceted plan he has to reduce crime in New Brunswick.

A man in a police uniform stands between two New Brunswick flags. Gary Forward, Woodstock police chief and president of the New Brunswick Association of Chiefs of Police, says the problem of homeless people trespassing on property is an issue that can't be solved by police alone. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Gary Forward, president of the New Brunswick Association of Chiefs of Police, said there has to be care taken when giving police new powers to arrest, and he thinks calls for such issues would require assistance from more than police officers.

"I think what the police have been — and continue to try to improve upon — is forming partnerships with other professionals and experts to try to deal with some of the the social challenges that have certainly come to light in in the last two years," he said.

Forward said he hopes that if officers end up with the power to arrest people for trespassing, that it's not the first option they turn to when responding to a call.

"My sense and hope is that nobody would simply [resort] to a legislative outcome or enforcement without first taking the necessary steps to perhaps gather information that could be used to consult, call or bring out associated partners that may be in a better position to assist that individual."

The Trespass Act does not list specific fine amounts for people convicted of a violation.

However, anyone convicted under the act can be ordered to financially compensate the complainant for loss of or damage to property suffered during the commission of an offence.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Aidan Cox

Journalist

Aidan Cox is a journalist for the CBC based in Fredericton. He can be reached at aidan.cox@cbc.ca and followed on Twitter @Aidan4jrn.

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297 Comments
 


David R. Amos
Public Safety Minister Kris Austin and the cops should check their records ASAP 
 
 

David R. Amos
This bill should stress test the ethics of the rebels who just supported the Throne Speech
 
 
 
 

Kyle Woodman 
It's weird which freedoms Kris wants to give and which to take away. Unsafe trailer, no problem, you good to go on the Highway. Trespass at a business, you're going to jail. Who exactly is Kris protecting?
 
 
Martha Diviine 
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Maybe the public. Go out in the evening in the cities and you’d understand why some of us don’t want our Grammies, mothers, and daughters going to dark parking lots where people are loitering in the evening. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Martha Diviine  
I got out in the evening quite often for dinner. Often times with my elderly in laws. Haven't had any issues. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Martha Diviine
Can you show some statistics to back up your fears? 
 
 
Martha Diviine 
Reply to Kyle Woodman  
And where do you live? Been in downtown Moncton lately? 
 
 
Martha Diviine 
Reply to Kyle Woodman  
My statistics are my own eyes 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Martha Diviine
I live in Moncton. Yes I go downtown all the time. Do you? 
 
 
Max Ruby 
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
I don't live in Moncton but I drive there sometimes. Last time at a red light in the daytime two menacing looking men ran up to cars with spray bottles and rags spraying windshields and demanding money, one lady looked petrified, I honked then other vehicles starting honking. Imagine if it was night with your teen daughter in one car and and an old lady in a car in front?
 
 
Martha Diviine 
Reply to Max Ruby  
Exactly!! Kyle seems to care more about the ones with spray cans than the innocent people trying to go about their lives and who don’t need to have other people’s problems in lives ruin their hard earned quality of life.

Stuff like what you described can really ruin people’s day. What about if it happened to tourists? Just awful for the citizens and businesses/ economy of this province and our reputation as a safe place.

 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Max Ruby
You made this up. There are no squeegee people in Moncton. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Martha Diviine 
Stop making things up. You obviously haven't spent much time in Moncton. 
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
You live in Moncton? Wait a minute, you have said many times how you have the pulse of Albert county and the daily whereabouts of Mr. Holland yet you don't even live there. I know, I am sure you have a vast web of spies who give you updates, never mind. 
 
 
Ronald Miller
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
So now you know what happens in Moncton, anywhere at anytime, I know, I know, you have a vast web of spies in Moncton also, cool. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Ronald Miller 
I do Ronald. You'd be surprised at what I know. 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Ronald Miller 
I have more than one residence Ronald.
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Ronald Miller 
You know Riverview is in Albert County too eh?
 
 
Timothy Walton 
Reply to Martha Diviine
People had those fears even in the 1970s, probably much earlier.  
 
 
David R. Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Half of Riverview used to be in Fundy Royal but not anymore However check the obits for last weekend with my family name 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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