---------- Oriignal message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:13:47 -0400
Subject: Hey Frank you got it wrong I was offering to help your client Justice Robin Camp BTW say Hey to Marie Henein, Alan Gold and the ghost of Eddy Greensan for me for me
To: faddario@addario.ca, "Norman.Sabourin"
Cc: David Amos
---------- Original message ----------
From: Frank Addario
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:34:05 +0000
Subject: Re: A-48-16 scanned documents Hey Frank I just called from
902 800 0369 Enjoy the attachment
To: David Amos
Cc: David Amos
David, thanks for your phone call.
I don¹t think there is anything I can do to help you
Frank Addario
T. 1.416.649.5055
F. 1.866.714.1196
171 John Street, Suite 101
Toronto, ON M5T 1X3
www.addario.ca
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:52:02 -0400
Subject: I just called to speak to Mona and Nira and nobody picked up
the phone Please enjoy knowing some of what Adrian Papara and Emilie
Taman have known for a very long time
To: ottvan@greenparty.ca, mona@liberal.ca
Cc: David Amos
Nira Dookeran
ottvan@greenparty.ca
(613) 421-2300
Mona Fortier
mona@liberal.ca
613.216.2650
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 06:17:01 -0400
Subject: Trust that I am enjoying the nonsense such as CRA mandatory
fingerprinting CBC versus Trump, the latest Tempest in the Teapot
called M-103 and of course the right wing circuses of Brian Jean,
Jason Kenney, Christy Clarke and Kevin O'Leary et al
To: "hon.melanie.joly"
Iqra.Khalid@parl.gc.ca, lorne.gunter@sunmedia.ca,
irwincotler@rwchr.org, Ezra
faisal@ksmlaw.ca, "Peter.Edge"
John.Kelly@dhs.gov, "James.Comey"
michael@agpllp.ca, "david.cournoyer"
themayor
Cc: David Amos
Contact@stephaniekusie.ca, haley@liberal.ca, info@bobbenzen.ca
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-revenue-agency-tax-evasion-offshore-criminal-charges-border-1.3992715
CRA's new fingerprinting policy could create travel problems for
accused tax evaders
Tax agency calls mandatory fingerprinting 'a powerful deterrent'
By Dean Beeby, CBC News Posted: Feb 21, 2017 9:00 PM ET
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/02/21/m-103-could-morph-into-something-unrecognizable
M-103 could morph into something unrecognizable
By Lorne Gunter , Edmonton Sun Tuesday, February 21, 2017
http://ksmlaw.ca/lawyers/faisal-kutty/
Faisal Kutty
Barrister & Solicitor
80 Corporate Drive, Suite 302,
Toronto, ON,
M1H 3G5
Phone: (416) 289-9666 ex 28
Email: faisal@ksmlaw.ca
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-immigration-trump-1.3992271
Trump administration plans could lead to vast increase in deportations
Trump administration plans protections for law-abiding U.S. 'dreamer' migrants
The Associated Press Posted: Feb 21, 2017 12:01 PM ET
"Any immigrant who is in the country illegally and is charged or
convicted of any offence, or even suspected of a crime, will now be an
enforcement priority, according to Homeland Security Department memos
signed by Secretary John Kelly. That could include people arrested for
shoplifting or minor offences — or simply having crossed the border
illegally."
"The enforcement memos also call for the hiring of 5,000 new Border
Patrol agents and 10,000 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents,
but it's unclear how quickly that could take place. Currently, two of
every three applicants for Customs and Border Protection jobs fail
polygraph exams and there are about 2,000 vacancies."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-national-security-adviser-mcmaster-1.3991328
Trump names H.R. McMaster as national security adviser
Michael Flynn resigned from the position last week
Thomson Reuters Posted: Feb 20, 2017 3:18 PM ET
"U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that Lt.-Gen. Herbert
Raymond McMaster would be his new national security adviser, replacing
Michael Flynn, again turning to the U.S. military to play a central
role on his foreign policy team.
Trump also named Keith Kellogg, a retired army general who has been
serving as the acting national security adviser, as chief of staff to
the National Security Council. Speaking to reporters in West Palm
Beach, Fla., where he spent the weekend, Trump said John Bolton, a
former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, would serve the
administration in another capacity."
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.3991113/republican-bill-seeks-to-enforce-social-media-vetting-of-visa-applicants-1.3991119
Monday February 20, 2017
Republican bill seeks to enforce social media vetting of visa applicants
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-uk-us-crown-queen-1.3990696
Trump and the Crown: Brits unsettled over U.S. president getting royal treatment
Planned state visit subject of protest, U.K. Commons debate today
By Nahlah Ayed, CBC News Posted: Feb 20, 2017 5:00 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/last-night-in-sweden-trump-1.3990554
'What has he been smoking?': Swedes scratch heads at Trump's
suggestion of major incident
Trump mentioned 'last night in Sweden' as he alluded to terror
attacks, but no incidents reported
The Associated Press Posted: Feb 19, 2017 3:45 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/governor-general-sweden-nenshi-1.3989162
Calgary mayor joins Governor General on trip to Sweden
'I'm very interested in selling Calgary as the place for the knowledge economy'
CBC News Posted: Feb 17, 2017 4:11 PM MT
"I understand the government of Sweden is very interested in issues of
diversity and pluralism in cities and really wants to learn a bit from
the Canadian experience, so I'm very happy to share that with them,"
he said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/michael-flynn-nsa-resigns-trump-1.3981476
Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn quits over Russian contacts
Admits he gave 'incomplete information' to VP Pence about discussions
with Russian ambassador
The Associated Press Posted: Feb 13, 2017 11:14 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-fire-acting-attorney-general-sally-yates-1.3959289
Trump fires attorney general who told Justice Department not to defend
travel ban
Sally Yates 'betrayed' Department of Justice, White House says
The Associated Press Posted: Jan 30, 2017 9:53 PM ET
"Accusing her of betrayal and insubordination, U.S. President Donald
Trump on Monday fired Sally Yates, the acting attorney general of the
United States and a Democratic appointee, after she publicly
questioned the constitutionality of his controversial refugee and
immigration ban and refused to defend it in court."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-vanier-byelection-day-1.3990315
Federal Ottawa-Vanier byelection happening April 3
Byelection needed after longtime MP Mauril Bélanger died last year
CBC News Posted: Feb 19, 2017 10:50 AM ET
Nirmala Dookeran for the Green Party, a high school teacher and
community activist who ran for the party in the last federal election.
Mona Fortier for the Liberals, a businesswoman and Liberal
organizer who co-chaired Bélanger's last campaign.
Adrian Papara for the Conservatives, who has an MBA from uOttawa
and has been working as a director of operations for Alberta
Conservative MP Tom Kmiec.
Emilie Taman for the NDP, a lawyer who ran for the party in the
last federal election and has been critical of the City of Ottawa's
plans for a new central library.
http://www.michaelspratt.com/law-blog/emilie-taman
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:08:00 -0400
Subject: I repeat You never got back to me Mr Spratt WHY?
To: michael@agpllp.ca, "bob.paulson"
Cc: David Amos
"Jody.Wilson-Raybould.a1"
Michael Spratt
Criminal Defence Counsel
116 Lisgar St Ottawa, On K2P 0C2
613) 296-2561
michael@agpllp.ca
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mandatory-minimum-sentences-justice-1.3976205
Liberals looking to eliminate many mandatory minimum sentences,
justice minister says
Wilson-Raybould says mandatory minimums contribute to backlogs in
Canada's courts
By Alison Crawford, CBC News Posted: Feb 11, 2017 5:00 AM ET
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:53:45 -0400
Subject: You never got back to me Mr Spratt WHY?
To: emilietamanNDP@gmail.com, michael@agpllp.ca, stephen.toope@utoronto.ca
Cc: David Amos
Your Mother in Law has lots to say on CBC and so does her old pal Mr
Toope Ten years ago Toope claimed I wasn't Ms Arbour's problem because
I had not dissaeared YET. Well guess who is runng for a seat in
parliament again?
http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/fwd-yo-alward-your-number-one-fanboy-mr.html
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/much-ado-about-magna-carta-part-1-1.3109717
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/refugee-crisis-changes-the-tone-of-the-campaign-1.3212594/louise-arbour-says-military-not-the-answer-to-syrian-refugee-crisis-1.3213044
'Politics of fear' and Bill C-51Arbour had equally strong words for
the government's controversial anti-terror legislation, Bill C-51,
which was passed into law in June.
C-51 is now law: 5 things that change
C-51 sees charter challenge from civil liberties, press freedom advocates
'No prosperity without security,' says public safety minister
"You hear Canadians say, 'I don't care all that much, I don't have
anything to hide,'" Arbour said of the law that will result in more
personal information being shared between government departments under
the Security of Canada Information Sharing Act.
"Privacy is not there to protect bad people who have done bad things,"
said Arbour, whose daughter Emilie Taman is the NDP candidate for
Ottawa-Vanier.
"It's there to protect the scope for people to have their own
spiritual, personal, intellectual, political life without that being
exposed to the public if they don't want to."
Arbour expects constitutional challenges to the legislation, and said
she found the position of the Liberal Party — which voted for the bill
but vowed to repeal or amend parts of it — to be "enormously
disappointing."
"I think it was very hard to mobilize against something where people
didn't feel immediately threatened," she said. "And of course the
politics of fear, as usual, worked. The Liberals expressed some
misgivings but weren't prepared to go the distance and oppose it."
'Picking fights with the courts'The former Supreme Court justice also
discussed what she termed an "acrimonious" relationship between the
Supreme Court and the federal government.
The Conservatives have spent more than $4.7 million fighting 15 losing
court cases with the country's highest court, including more than $1
million on tough-on-crime measures.
"What I would like to see would be for the government to waive its
solicitor-client privilege with its own lawyers and release the
opinions that it received on the constitutionality of some of [their]
legislation," she said.
"I'd be very interested to know what kind of advice the government was
getting about the constitutionality of these laws," she added.
"I'm concerned the government is picking fights with the courts that,
if it had a better understanding of the role of the court and the
scope of constitutional protection in this country, it shouldn't be."
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:25:03 -0400
Subject: YO Jana Winter why not ask CBC or Birgitta Jónsdóttir or her
Prime Minister or your President Trump or his lawyer Mr Cohen
(646-853-0114) If I am one of "The real bad guys" in Canada they
seek???
To: janawinter@protonmail.com, Wendy.Olsen@usdoj.gov, "James.Comey"
krishnamurthyp@sec.gov, "Marc.Litt"
"PETER.MACKAY"
Cc: David Amos
oldmaison
postur@for.stjr.is, aih@cbc.ca, andre
"blaine.higgs"
"David.Coon"
http://qslspolitics.blogspot.ca/2009/03/david-amos-to-wendy-olsen-on.html
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:34:40 -0300
Subject: Fwd: USANYS-MADOFF AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM US
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SDNY
To: frank.pingue@thomsonreuters.com,
johanna.sigurdardottir@fel.stjr.is, postur@for.stjr.is, aih@cbc.ca,
Milliken.P@parl.gc.ca, sjs@althingi.is, emb.ottawa@mfa.is,
rmellish@pattersonlaw.ca, irisbirgisdottir@yahoo.ca,
grant.mccool@thomsonreuters.com, juan.lagorio@thomsonreuters.com,
"Robert. Jones" Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, marie@mariemorneau.com,
dfranklin@franklinlegal.com, egilla@althingi.is,
william.turner@exsultate.ca, klm@althingi.is, mail@fjr.stjr.is,
Edith.Cody-Rice@cbc.ca, wendy.williams@landsbanki.is,
cdhowe@cdhowe.org, desparois.sylviane@fcac.gc.ca, plee@stu.ca,
jonina.s.larusdottir@ivr.stjr.is, fyrirspurn@fme.is, audur@audur.is,
fme@fme.is, info@landsbanki.is, sedlabanki@sedlabanki.is, tif@tif.is
Cc: rfowlo@comcast.net, jmullen@townofmilton.org, webo@xplornet.com,
t.j.burke@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, Dan Fitzgerald danf@danf.net,
"spinks08@hotmail.com" spinks08@hotmail.com, gypsy-blog
gypsy-blog@hotmail.com, "nb. premier" nb.premier@gmail.com, nbpolitico
nbpolitico@gmail.com>, "bruce.fitch" bruce.fitch@gnb.ca, "bruce.alec"
bruce.alec@gmail.com
I know that the Yankee law enforcement people are either as dumb as
posts or pure evil. There appears to be few exceptions. The ethical
Ms. Olson is my favourite lady today. Does anyone speaking or acting
in the best interests of the decent folks in Iceland understand my
sincerity and her Integrity YET?
Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/investigators-border-canada-terrorists-mexico-1.3977502
'The real bad guys' are coming from Canada, not Mexico, Daily Beast
report alleges
Leaked FBI data from 2014-2016 suggests more 'suspected terrorists'
enter U.S. by way of Canada than Mexico
By Diana Swain, CBC News Posted: Feb 11, 2017 9:00 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/the-investigators-with-diana-swain-november-19-2016-1.3858630
The Investigators with Diana Swain - November 19, 2016
Air Date: Nov 18, 2016 6:44 PM ET
The Investigators with Diana Swain - November 19, 201622:24
Did the spread of fake news on social media play a role in electing
Donald Trump? Diana speaks with a BuzzFeed reporter who revealed a
group of Facebook employees are trying to combat misinformation. Plus,
behind-the-scenes on a collaboration between CBC News and the Toronto
Star about police powers in the digital age. Watch Sat 9:30 pm ET &
Sun 5:30 pm ET on CBC News Network.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/the-investigators-with-diana-swain-1.3818799
The Investigators with Diana Swain
Air Date: Oct 24, 2016 8:42 AM ET
Episode 2: The ethics and challenges of reporting on data dumps after
another release by Wikileaks hits the U.S. presidential campaign.
Plus, a CBC News investigation into solitary confinement
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/the-investigators-with-diana-swain-1.3806663
The Investigators with Diana Swain
Air Date: Oct 14, 2016 9:57 PM ET
Series premiere: How journalists got the scoop on Donald Trump, and
questions about the privacy of your medical information
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:51:14 -0400
Subject: RE FATCA, NAFTA & TPP etc ATTN President Donald J. Trump I
just got off the phone with your lawyer Mr Cohen (646-853-0114) Why
does he lie to me after all this time???
To: president
B.English@ministers.govt.nz, Malcolm.Turnbull.MP@aph.gov.au,
pminvites@pmc.gov.au, mayt@parliament.uk, press
fin.financepublic-financepublique.fin@canada.ca, newsroom
Cc: David Amos
elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca, "justin.ling@vice.com, elizabeththompson"
"Bill.Morneau"
stephen.kimber@ukings.ca, "steve.murphy"
"Jacques.Poitras"
---------- Original message ----------
From: Michael Cohen
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:15:14 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE FATCA ATTN Pierre-Luc.Dusseault I just
called and left a message for you
To: David Amos
Effective January 20, 2017, I have accepted the role as personal
counsel to President Donald J. Trump. All future emails should be
directed to mdcohen212@gmail.com and all future calls should be
directed to 646-853-0114.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Finance Public / Finance Publique (FIN)"
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:05:00 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo President Trump RE the Federal Court of Canada File No
T-1557-15 lets see how the media people do with news that is NOT FAKE
To: David Amos
The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
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comments.
Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "MAY, Theresa"
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:10:53 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Whereas the UKIP NEVER had any time to talk
to me about the financial industry now I have even less of my precious
time for them just like wannabe Consevative leaders who try to play
dumb
To: David Amos
This is the email account for The Rt Hon Theresa May MP's work as
Member of Parliament for Maidenhead. If you live in the Maidenhead
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:06:39 +0000
Subject: RE: Whereas the UKIP NEVER had any time to talk to me about
the financial industry now I have even less of my precious time for
them just like wannabe Consevative leaders who try to play dumb
To: David Amos
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "HAMMOND, Philip"
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:10:55 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Whereas the UKIP NEVER had any time to talk
to me about the financial industry now I have even less of my precious
time for them just like wannabe Consevative leaders who try to play
dumb
To: David Amos
Thank you for your email. This acknowledgement has been triggered
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not be disappointed or offended if you do not receive an immediate
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> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Póstur FOR
> >> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
> >> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
> >> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
> >> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
> >> to be..
> >> To: David Amos
> >>
> >> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
> >>
> >> Kveðja / Best regards
> >> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
> >>
> >>
> >> This is the docket
> >>
> >>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
> >>
> >> These are digital recordings of the last two hearings
> >>
> >> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
> >>
> >> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
> >>
> >> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again
> >>
> >> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
> >> Campaign, Rogers TV
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
> >>
> >>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
> >>
> >> Veritas Vincit
> >> David Raymond Amos
> >> 902 800 0369
> >>
> >>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From:
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>
> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
> are not.
>
> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>
> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>
> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>
> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>
> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>
> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
> alive
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>
> >>>>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1
> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir
>
> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice"
>
>
>
> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
> interesting though
>
> http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-newman/
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/media/story/2010/05/04/al-jazeera-english-launch.html
>
> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>
> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
> shy political animal
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> Enjoy Mr Weston
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-wikileaks.html
>
> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
> including a Canadian general.
>
> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/canada-and-united-states.html
>
> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
> into the US policy.
>
> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
> were deployed WMD.
>
> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>
> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
> George W Bush administration was onerous
>
> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>
> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>
> http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/ContactUSSOCOM.aspx
>
>
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norman-secrecy-investigation-1.4024459
DND leak investigation started under Tories, expanded under Liberals
Expert says where Liberals and secrets are concerned it's 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'
By Murray Brewster, CBC News Posted: Mar 15, 2017 5:00 AM ET
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, the vice-chief of defence staff,
was suspended from his duties but not relieved of command two months
ago. (CBC News)
The RCMP has been conducting a secret, wide-ranging
investigation for many months into a series of leaks involving
classified cabinet papers, decisions and other sensitive information — a
high-stakes probe that's not only targeted the country's second-highest
military commander, but additional unnamed suspects, CBC News has
learned.
Multiple sources tell CBC News the hunt for informants began under the former Conservative government, but gained a renewed intensity in November 2015 under the newly elected Liberals following at least three sensitive breaches that were splashed across the media.
Two of the leaks referenced cabinet documents or decisions concerning military shipbuilding, said the sources, who were granted anonymity by CBC News because of the sensitivity of the case.
The disclosures revealed underfunding and other problems with the government's multibillion-dollar national shipbuilding strategy and "infuriated" and embarrassed not only the government, but proponents of the strategy within the bureaucracy.
The RCMP have questioned suspects in both Ottawa and on the West Coast, the sources said.
The leaks provide a bit of a peek behind the curtain to the back-room war that's been raging over the shipbuilding strategy as the military grows more impatient waiting for the delivery of promised warships.
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, Canada's vice-chief of defence staff, was suspended from his duties but not relieved of command two months ago. He apparently came to the attention of the Mounties after investigators examined email traffic that referenced him.
His lawyer, Marie Henein, who also represented former CBC Radio host
Jian Ghomeshi during his sex assault trial, issued a statement on Feb.
23 saying it would be a "profound disservice" if Norman was to be the
casualty of "bureaucratic crossfire."
His legal issues began on Jan. 9, when he was questioned at length by investigators in his home. He was suspended by the military four days later and news of the extraordinary step was leaked to the media.
Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Jonathan Vance appointed the head of the navy as the acting vice-chief. But in a sign there will be no swift resolution for Norman, Vance recently tweeted that he plans to shuffle another flag officer into the job on a temporary basis, beginning at the end of May.
Norman's electronics, including home computer and tablet, were seized
under a search warrant that has been sealed for national security
purposes.
Both National Defence and the Liberal government, whose members campaigned in 2015 as the antidote to the secrecy of Stephen Harper's Conservatives, have steadfastly refused to explain why Norman has been removed and have not even publicly acknowledged an investigation is underway.
In an extraordinary move a few weeks ago, RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson refused to answer a Senate committee's question about the case.
The most politically sensitive and damaging of the November 2015 leaks led to stories about the Liberal government's temporary halt to the planned lease of a converted cargo ship for the navy, a program known as Project Resolve. Both CBC News and The Canadian Press reported that story and the CBC's sources say the government believed it made them look foolish.
It was followed days later by another CBC News story that quoted from briefing material prepared for newly minted Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan and Public Works Minister Judy Foote that warned shipbuilding program costs were out of control and the government needed a four-point plan to address the problem.
The third disclosure to raise the hackles of the government that
month involved details about the military's plan to house Syrian
refugees and how much it was going to cost. Both Postmedia and The
Canadian Press obtained separate leaks on that file.
The RCMP probe, which sources say is being carried out by the sensitive investigations unit, is focused almost exclusively on disclosures of so-called classified information to the media and the defence industry, and apparently does not involve suspected corruption.
Computers at National Defence were monitored remotely in order to track incoming and outgoing contacts some in the department were having with outsiders, the sources said.
The RCMP did not answer requests for comment.
Anger and embarrassment about the leaks appears to have more to do with politics and bureaucratic ineptness than national security, said one expert.
"There are pressures to keep things closed that come both from the civil service and the politicians," said Michael Byers, a University of British Columbia defence policy expert who has written a number of studies critical of Canada's military procurement.
There were "procurements that have actually failed because of incompetence within the bureaucracies," he said, referring to examples such as navy supply ships and logistics trucks.
"So in that kind of situation, civil servants will want to cover up their mistakes or potential mistakes by casting this veil of secrecy over top of them. At the same time, responsibility for those mistakes actually rests with the political masters."
There is a trend towards the over-classification of information, he said.
The public works minister said Canadians won't know the price tag of the warships until the government signs the contract in 2019. The same goes for the purchase of 18 Boeing Super Hornet jet fighters to help the air force meet its obligations while the government shops for a permanent replacement for the aging fleet of CF-18s.
Those figures are now treated as confidential and releasing them could be considered a violation of cabinet secrecy.
Byers says that's a disservice to the public.
Another expert says what's more alarming is the Liberals have become more clandestine than the Conservatives in some key areas — contrary to what they promised on the campaign trail.
"Right now, it's a little bit of meet the new boss, same as the old boss," said Mike Larsen, a criminology instructor at Kwantlen Polytechnic University in Surrey, B.C., and co-author of Brokering Access: Power, Politics, and Freedom of Information Process in Canada.
Last fall, the Liberals introduced an unprecedented gag order to prevent 235 Canadian military personnel and federal workers from ever talking about the fighter jet replacement program.
They have also refused to roll back changes instituted under the Conservatives that affect how access to information legislation deals with cabinet secrets. The effect of the tweaking of federal Treasury Board regulations in 2013 is that more documents requested by the public can be deemed "cabinet confidence."
"If we look back in 10 years' time we'll have a better sense of this, but it wouldn't surprise to see that secrecy deepened and intensified and became more entrenched and more of a matter of policy under the Liberal regime," said Larsen. "Precisely because they're dealing with issues around transparency at a time when they're also expanding the entire security apparatus."
Former RCMP commissioner Bill Elliott rejects the notion some information is being withheld to avoid government embarrassment.
He said during his time as commissioner from 2007 to 2011, he witnessed times when it would have been politically expedient to release something, but it didn't happen because there are sound public policy reasons why government officials are legally and ethically bound to respect the confidentiality of information.
But there are limits, he says, and officials need to exercise
judgment and discretion when deciding whether there's a greater public
interest served by releasing information.
"You have to have a good reason to keep information secret," he said. "And the reason for keeping information secret isn't because it's embarrassing information — or even if it is in a so-called secret document that is marked secret.
"You have to look beyond the secret label to the actual contents of the document and make a decision on whether or not that information can and should be released."
Multiple sources tell CBC News the hunt for informants began under the former Conservative government, but gained a renewed intensity in November 2015 under the newly elected Liberals following at least three sensitive breaches that were splashed across the media.
Two of the leaks referenced cabinet documents or decisions concerning military shipbuilding, said the sources, who were granted anonymity by CBC News because of the sensitivity of the case.
The disclosures revealed underfunding and other problems with the government's multibillion-dollar national shipbuilding strategy and "infuriated" and embarrassed not only the government, but proponents of the strategy within the bureaucracy.
The RCMP have questioned suspects in both Ottawa and on the West Coast, the sources said.
RCMP silence
The leaks provide a bit of a peek behind the curtain to the back-room war that's been raging over the shipbuilding strategy as the military grows more impatient waiting for the delivery of promised warships.
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, Canada's vice-chief of defence staff, was suspended from his duties but not relieved of command two months ago. He apparently came to the attention of the Mounties after investigators examined email traffic that referenced him.
Norman's lawyer, Marie Henein, says it would
be a 'profound disservice' if Norman was to be the casualty of
'bureaucratic crossfire.'
His legal issues began on Jan. 9, when he was questioned at length by investigators in his home. He was suspended by the military four days later and news of the extraordinary step was leaked to the media.
Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Jonathan Vance appointed the head of the navy as the acting vice-chief. But in a sign there will be no swift resolution for Norman, Vance recently tweeted that he plans to shuffle another flag officer into the job on a temporary basis, beginning at the end of May.
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson hasn't spoken
publicly about the leak investigation, refusing even to answer a Senate
committee's question about the probe. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
Both National Defence and the Liberal government, whose members campaigned in 2015 as the antidote to the secrecy of Stephen Harper's Conservatives, have steadfastly refused to explain why Norman has been removed and have not even publicly acknowledged an investigation is underway.
In an extraordinary move a few weeks ago, RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson refused to answer a Senate committee's question about the case.
Shipbuilding and Syrian leaks
The most politically sensitive and damaging of the November 2015 leaks led to stories about the Liberal government's temporary halt to the planned lease of a converted cargo ship for the navy, a program known as Project Resolve. Both CBC News and The Canadian Press reported that story and the CBC's sources say the government believed it made them look foolish.
It was followed days later by another CBC News story that quoted from briefing material prepared for newly minted Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan and Public Works Minister Judy Foote that warned shipbuilding program costs were out of control and the government needed a four-point plan to address the problem.
The federal government plans to lease a naval
supply ship from Federal Fleet Services Inc. as a stop-gap measure to
replace its now retired replenishment ships, including HMCS Protecteur,
pictured here. (Marco Garcia/Associated Press)
The RCMP probe, which sources say is being carried out by the sensitive investigations unit, is focused almost exclusively on disclosures of so-called classified information to the media and the defence industry, and apparently does not involve suspected corruption.
Computers at National Defence were monitored remotely in order to track incoming and outgoing contacts some in the department were having with outsiders, the sources said.
The RCMP did not answer requests for comment.
The secrecy reflex
Anger and embarrassment about the leaks appears to have more to do with politics and bureaucratic ineptness than national security, said one expert.
"There are pressures to keep things closed that come both from the civil service and the politicians," said Michael Byers, a University of British Columbia defence policy expert who has written a number of studies critical of Canada's military procurement.
There were "procurements that have actually failed because of incompetence within the bureaucracies," he said, referring to examples such as navy supply ships and logistics trucks.
"So in that kind of situation, civil servants will want to cover up their mistakes or potential mistakes by casting this veil of secrecy over top of them. At the same time, responsibility for those mistakes actually rests with the political masters."
There is a trend towards the over-classification of information, he said.
'Right now, it's a little bit of meet the new boss, same as the old boss.' - Mike Larsen, co-author of Brokering Access: Power, Politics, and Freedom of Information Process in CanadaOne example he cites in shipbuilding is the Liberal government's refusal to release cost estimates for the multibillion-dollar frigate replacement program.
The public works minister said Canadians won't know the price tag of the warships until the government signs the contract in 2019. The same goes for the purchase of 18 Boeing Super Hornet jet fighters to help the air force meet its obligations while the government shops for a permanent replacement for the aging fleet of CF-18s.
Those figures are now treated as confidential and releasing them could be considered a violation of cabinet secrecy.
Byers says that's a disservice to the public.
Liberals and secrecy
Another expert says what's more alarming is the Liberals have become more clandestine than the Conservatives in some key areas — contrary to what they promised on the campaign trail.
"Right now, it's a little bit of meet the new boss, same as the old boss," said Mike Larsen, a criminology instructor at Kwantlen Polytechnic University in Surrey, B.C., and co-author of Brokering Access: Power, Politics, and Freedom of Information Process in Canada.
Last fall, the Liberals introduced an unprecedented gag order to prevent 235 Canadian military personnel and federal workers from ever talking about the fighter jet replacement program.
They have also refused to roll back changes instituted under the Conservatives that affect how access to information legislation deals with cabinet secrets. The effect of the tweaking of federal Treasury Board regulations in 2013 is that more documents requested by the public can be deemed "cabinet confidence."
"If we look back in 10 years' time we'll have a better sense of this, but it wouldn't surprise to see that secrecy deepened and intensified and became more entrenched and more of a matter of policy under the Liberal regime," said Larsen. "Precisely because they're dealing with issues around transparency at a time when they're also expanding the entire security apparatus."
Exercising judgment with secrets
Former RCMP commissioner Bill Elliott rejects the notion some information is being withheld to avoid government embarrassment.
He said during his time as commissioner from 2007 to 2011, he witnessed times when it would have been politically expedient to release something, but it didn't happen because there are sound public policy reasons why government officials are legally and ethically bound to respect the confidentiality of information.
Former RCMP commissioner Bill Elliott says
there are sound public policy reasons why government officials are
legally and ethically bound to respect the confidentiality of
information, but there are also limits and room for discretion.
(Canadian Press)
"You have to have a good reason to keep information secret," he said. "And the reason for keeping information secret isn't because it's embarrassing information — or even if it is in a so-called secret document that is marked secret.
"You have to look beyond the secret label to the actual contents of the document and make a decision on whether or not that information can and should be released."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norman-suspension-vance-1.3989468
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman owed the 'decency' of silence while system works: Vance
Chief of defence staff and suspended deputy chief are life-long friends
By Murray Brewster, CBC News Posted: Feb 18, 2017 5:00 AM ET
Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, the country's second-highest
military commander, was temporarily relieved of his duties Jan. 13,
The country's top military commander delivered a heartfelt
appeal for privacy and an end to the speculation surrounding the fate of
his deputy.
Gen. Jonathan Vance, speaking to reporters Friday, said the extraordinary situation involving Vice-Admiral Mark Norman requires him to maintain a dignified silence.
He once again refused to explain why he ordered Norman suspended a month ago and cited his duty to protect the privacy of the vice chief of defence staff, one of the most senior, sensitive positions in the federal government.
"That was one of the hardest days of my career," Vance said following a speech to the annual meeting of the Conference of Defence Associations Institute in Ottawa.
"I have known Admiral Norman my entire life. And to have my vice-chief leave, because I had to do it,"
Vance said. "I had to do it. But to have him leave was a bad day for me; a bad day for all of us, but sometimes, the right thing to do hurts. In this case, it was the right thing to do. And the man is owed the decency of silence until you know the facts."
Most of what the public has learned about Norman's circumstance has been garnered through leaks.
He is — according to multiple sources — being investigated by the RCMP, something the federal police force has refused to confirm, or deny, even to Parliament.
A senate committee put the question directly to RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, who declined to give any information.
"I cannot give you an update," Paulson told committee chair Senator Daniel Lang on Feb. 6. "I think if you had a question about his duty status those are properly placed before the military."
But the senate committee wasn't asking about Norman's duty status. The military had made that clear from the outset, saying the admiral was relieved of his responsibilities but not stripped of his office.
The question was about whether or not Norman was under investigation and it is the RCMP that has the responsibility to look into alleged breaches of national security.
Sources have said the investigation by the Mounties apparently involves classified information leaks related to shipbuilding.
To whom and for what purpose is not clear.
The federal government is in the midst of recapitalizing the navy with planned multi-billion programs to replace the country's patrol frigates and military supply ships.
This week it extended the deadline for submissions in the competition to design the next generation of warships.
The fact the public has been kept in the dark, relying on leaks to learn about potential leaks of classified information, has troubled the opposition and vexed Vance.
"It is a situation that makes none of us happy at all," Vance said. "I'm not happy, nor is he. It is a difficult situation for all of us. I owe the guy, the decent thing to do, and in this case, it's to let the system that's happening now happen.
"The decent thing to do for Admiral Norman is to let what's happening happen, and not speculate and not try to find sources that may not have all of the information."
The problem is, the RCMP has been known to sometimes take years to conduct national security investigations, leaving potential suspects in limbo throughout that time.
Gen. Jonathan Vance, speaking to reporters Friday, said the extraordinary situation involving Vice-Admiral Mark Norman requires him to maintain a dignified silence.
He once again refused to explain why he ordered Norman suspended a month ago and cited his duty to protect the privacy of the vice chief of defence staff, one of the most senior, sensitive positions in the federal government.
"That was one of the hardest days of my career," Vance said following a speech to the annual meeting of the Conference of Defence Associations Institute in Ottawa.
"I have known Admiral Norman my entire life. And to have my vice-chief leave, because I had to do it,"
Vance said. "I had to do it. But to have him leave was a bad day for me; a bad day for all of us, but sometimes, the right thing to do hurts. In this case, it was the right thing to do. And the man is owed the decency of silence until you know the facts."
- 'Almost impossible' to trace defence leaks: former CSIS head
- Prior leaks on RCMP's radar before vice-admiral's removal
- Suspended vice-admiral being investigated for alleged leaks
Most of what the public has learned about Norman's circumstance has been garnered through leaks.
He is — according to multiple sources — being investigated by the RCMP, something the federal police force has refused to confirm, or deny, even to Parliament.
A senate committee put the question directly to RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, who declined to give any information.
"I cannot give you an update," Paulson told committee chair Senator Daniel Lang on Feb. 6. "I think if you had a question about his duty status those are properly placed before the military."
But the senate committee wasn't asking about Norman's duty status. The military had made that clear from the outset, saying the admiral was relieved of his responsibilities but not stripped of his office.
The question was about whether or not Norman was under investigation and it is the RCMP that has the responsibility to look into alleged breaches of national security.
Sources have said the investigation by the Mounties apparently involves classified information leaks related to shipbuilding.
To whom and for what purpose is not clear.
A difficult situation
The federal government is in the midst of recapitalizing the navy with planned multi-billion programs to replace the country's patrol frigates and military supply ships.
This week it extended the deadline for submissions in the competition to design the next generation of warships.
The fact the public has been kept in the dark, relying on leaks to learn about potential leaks of classified information, has troubled the opposition and vexed Vance.
"It is a situation that makes none of us happy at all," Vance said. "I'm not happy, nor is he. It is a difficult situation for all of us. I owe the guy, the decent thing to do, and in this case, it's to let the system that's happening now happen.
"The decent thing to do for Admiral Norman is to let what's happening happen, and not speculate and not try to find sources that may not have all of the information."
The problem is, the RCMP has been known to sometimes take years to conduct national security investigations, leaving potential suspects in limbo throughout that time.
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