---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:09:32 -0400
Subject: RE Communication to the Court
To: "Morneault, Michel"
Cc: David Amos
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Morneault, Michel"
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 18:52:45 +0000
Subject: Communication to the Court
To: David Amos
Good day Mr. Amos,
It has been brought to my attention that you are trying to reach a
judicial member of the Federal Court by way of telephone.
I just want to give you a friendly reminder that all communication to
a judge should be brought in writing by way of letter address to the
Registry office of your choice.
Feel free to ask or call if you have any questions.
Thank you kindly
Michel G. Morneault
Registry Officer / Agent du greffe
Courts Administration Service
Service administratif des tribunaux judiciaires
Fredericton, NB/N.-B.
(t) 506-452-2014 (f)506-452-3584
Michel G. Morneault
Registry Officer / Agent du greffe
Courts Administration Service
Service administratif des tribunaux judiciaires
Fredericton, NB/N.-B.
(t) 506-452-2014 (f)506-452-3584
Good Day to you as well Mr Morneault
Thank you for letting me know of what has come to your attention.
Pease excuse a minor political rant but after all the Crown cannot
deny that my lawsuit is about the Governor General, my political
opponents and their appointees not acting within the scope of their
employment and deliberately acting wrongfully against me.
I am more than willing to explain my actions this morning in writing
to the Registry Office. In return and in the spirit of full
disclosure, I ask that you file a true copy of this entire response
into the public record of the Federal Court of Appeal File no.A-18-16.
Please find below are two emails I sent earlier today and two
documents that were attachments to my second email The documents
attached speak for themselves and one of the documents is already in
the FCA file and was discussed by Justice Southcott and I during the
public hearing of my matter on January 11th, 2016.
I presume the judicial member of the Federal Court you are referring
to is the Honourable Joseph T. Robertson because he is it only person
possibly of Federal Court that I contacted today. However I only left
a voicemail with Robertson early this morning before I sent him two
emails fairly early as well, Basically just in case somebody was
ethical I was giving Robertson and many others some food for thought
before I file my next lawsuit against the Her Majesty the Queen.
However Robertson and his cohorts in the Court of the Queens Bench had
ignored my concerns since 2004. The document from the New Brunswick
judicial Council is in the file of the Federal Court as well and
Justice Bell made note of it during the hearing on December 14, 2015.
If you scroll down through the emails I sent Robertson and others
today it could have been anyone of a number of other people who got
the same email as Robertson who may have some sort of issue with my
actions today but not one of them are a judge of Federal Court or any
other. Therefore Robertson is my best guess as to whom you are
referring to.
For the public record I deliberately called Robertson's office before
the Law School of UNB was open for business this morning and left only
a voicemail of which I stand by every word. I suspect the people of
UNB are all on March break anyway. Thus UNB probably does have not
many employees on the job considering that fact there was bad weather
outside as well. Only one friend who saw the news about KPMG and the
judges of Federal Court and a Mayor of Montreal who is also in the
news called me today. The others I called and talked to in Ottwa and
elswhere will no doubt deny that I ever talked them.
Robertson never called me back in fact nobody employed by UNB has ever
called me back except their sercurity boss or one of his minions
talking like cops and trying to accuse me of things I did not do.
However the security boss of UNB is just like his buddy the former Sgt
at Arms Dan Bussieres. He will not confirm or deny that he is an ex
member of the RCMP nor will he discuss why I am barred from UNB. It a
small wonder to me that the Commissioner of the RCMP is also quiting
with all the lawsuits against the them that are rolling in.lately.
Whereas Robertson is employed by UNB to lecture folks on the law, its
kinda obvious he is no longer a judge. UNB is supported by taxpayer
funds so who is Justin Trudeau or Brian Gallant anyone else to say
that I cannot talk to Robertson or anyone else at UNB? If it was
Robertson who complained of me, please ask him what was so offensive
about a voicemail and couple of emails from a poor man who pays way
too many taxes on his gas, tobacco and other goods to keep the lights
on in his fancy office at UNB. This no joke particularly in light of
the fact. The Federal court acted like lightning to accommodate
Justice Camp and his lawyer while the Crown can't get past a motion to
strike after a year and a half of calling me frivolous and vexatious.
Then there is the big spotlight that the Crown Corp commonly known as
CBC has shown the world how other Federal Court Judges feel free to
party hardy with the likes of KPMG and its fellow well-heeled tax
evaders.
Furthermore I do not know if you are aware or whether you read my
latest filing or not but I have been barred from the UNB Campus since
June of 2006. That was about 5 months after I ran in Fredericton in
the election of the 39th Parliament and the Harper government won its
first mandate. So for nearly 11 eleven years I can only send emails
and letters to the UNB campus while its employees just like all the
other employees in every legislative property in Canada have continued
to laugh at me or ignore me or call the cops on me while inviting me
to sue the Crown. This seems like just another one of those days that
makes me regret not suing them ten years ago.
All that said I don't believe Robertson is a judicial member of the
Federal Court so perhaps it was somebody else complaining of me. If
so, trust that I called nobody else in the Federal Court system not
even its lawyers. If it was Robertson who claimed of me tell him I
would dearly love to see his pay stubs from Federal Court. Federal
Court records appear to affirm my reasoning that Robertson is retired
and that he acted as a judicial member of Federal Courts for Justice
Camp's matter only
.
http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-201-17&select_court=All
"Written directions received from the Court: Chief Justice Crampton
dated 17-FEB-2017 directing that To avoid any questions that might be
raised if a sitting member of the Federal Court were to hear Justice
Camp's application for judicial review of the Canadian Judicial
Council's rejection of his request for an opportunity to make oral
submissions to the Council, I have requested retired Justice Joseph
Robertson to act as a deputy judge of this Court to hear that
application. Justice Robertson has agreed to act in that capacity.
This request was made under subsection 10 (1.1) of the Federal Courts
Act, and an Order-in-Council P.C. 2003 1779, dated November 6, 2003
(the OIC), pursuant to which the Governor-in-Council approved that the
Chief Justice of the Federal Court may request any judge of a
superior, county or district court in Canada and any person who has
held office as such as a judge, to act as a deputy judge of the
Federal Court. Pursuant to the OIC, the Govenor in Council also placed
a limit of 15 persons who may act in the capacity of Deputy Judge of
the Federal Court. There currently is only one other person who is
acting in the capacity of Deputy judge of the Federal Court. For your
information, retired Justice Robertson was a member of the New
Brunswick Court of Appeal from July 2000 to September 2014, and a
member of the Federal Court of Appeal from May 1992 to July 2000. I
can confirm that he is under the age of 75. To ensure that justice is
both done and is seen to be done in an independent and impartial
manner: 1. Justice Camp will continue not to participate in any
proceedings before the Court, other than in connection with the
application that he has filed, and any other proceedings to which he
may be a party. 2. Justice Camp will not occupy his office or attend
at the Court. 3. Justice Camp will not have any contact with the
members of the Court. I have appointed Prothonotary Aylen to assist
Justice Robertson with interlocutory matters that may arise in
connection with Justice Camp's application. placed on file on
17-FEB-2017"
Best Regards
David Raymond Amos
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:18:47 -0400
Subject: ATTN Hon Joseph T Robertson I just called and left a
voicemail I truly hope that you get back to me ASAP
To: Joseph.Robertson@unb.ca, jrw
nbrooks@osgoode.yorku.ca, "mark.vespucci" ,
"Diane.Lebouthillier"
Cc: David Amos
Hon Joseph T Robertson
Jurist-in-Residence
Law, Faculty of
1 506 451 6919
Ludlow Hall, 105
UNB Fredericton Campus
Joseph.Robertson@unb.ca
Need I say that I found it interesting that you were appointed on
polling day for the Election of the 42nd Parliament? I wonder if you
recall my name on the ballot in Fredericton in 2006 when Harper won
his first mandate?
http://blogs.unb.ca/newsroom/2015/10/19/title/
University of New Brunswick appoints retired Court of Appeal Justice
Joseph Robertson to law faculty
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)"
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 11:53:02 +0000
Subject: RE: Norman Sabourin, executive director of the Canadian
Judicial Council launches 'Potential misconduct' probe but only after
his associates in the Crown Corp CBC exposes hiis pals???
To: David Amos
Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
assured that your email will be reviewed.
Nous vous remercions d’avoir communiqué avec le premier ministre du
Nouveau-Brunswick. Soyez assuré(e) que votre courriel sera examiné.
---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur FOR
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 11:57:18 +0000
Subject: Re: Norman Sabourin, executive director of the Canadian
Judicial Council launches 'Potential misconduct' probe but only after
his associates in the Crown Corp CBC exposes hiis pals???
To: David Amos
Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 07:52:50 -0400
Subject: Norman Sabourin, executive director of the Canadian Judicial
Council launches 'Potential misconduct' probe but only after his
associates in the Crown Corp CBC exposes hiis pals???
To: "Norman.Sabourin"
"harvey.cashore"
"heather.bradley"
Munroe
"serge.rousselle"
"Gerald.Butts"
"David.Coon"
"blaine.higgs"
Cc: David Amos
Methinks Mr Norman Sabourin, his buddy Marc A. Giroux, Deputy Commissioner
Federal Judicial Affairs Canada and their cohorts really should be
preparing to argue mean old me in Federal Court N'esy Pas Mr Prime
Minister Trudeau "The Younger" ???
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/03/memorandum-of-fact-and-law-of.html
Wednesday, 8 March 2017
MEMORANDUM OF FACT AND LAW OF THE RESPONDENT ON CROSS-APPEAL
http://www.fja-cmf.gc.ca/home-accueil/index-eng.html
Welcome to the Website of the Office of the Commissioner for Federal
Judicial Affairs Canada
The Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs reports directly to the
Minister of Justice. The Office of the Commissioner was established in
1978 to safeguard the independence of the judiciary and provide
federally appointed judges with administrative services independent of
the Department of Justice.
Duties and responsibilities include:
administering Part I of the Judges Act, which deals with
eligibility for appointment, retirement age, and salaries of federally
appointed judges;
preparing a budget and providing services and staff to the
Canadian Judicial Council;
providing support to the Independent Advisory Committee for
Supreme Court of Canada Judicial Appointments;
managing the Judicial Appointments Secretariat, which administers
17 advisory committees responsible for evaluating candidates for
federal judicial appointments;
managing the Federal Courts Reports Section, which is responsible
for selecting and publishing Federal Court of Appeal and Federal Court
decisions in both official languages;
administering a judicial intranet called JUDICOM, which provides
judges with email, a secure and restricted communication system, and a
virtual library;
providing language training to judges in both official languages;
coordinating initiatives related to the Canadian judiciary's role
in international cooperation.
In order to carry out these activities and provide services to
approximately 1,100 active judges and 850 retired judges and their
survivors in Canada, the Commissioner is assisted by the Deputy
Commissioner, seven Directors and, at present, 70 other staff members.
This Web site is designed to inform all Canadians about FJA's role and
activities in judicial affairs in Canada. We welcome any requests for
information and any comments or suggestions. Please do not hesitate to
Contact Us.
Enjoy your visit to our site!
Marc A. Giroux, Deputy Commissioner
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:13:47 -0400
Subject: Hey Frank you got it wrong I was offering to help your client
Justice Robin Camp BTW say Hey to Marie Henein, Alan Gold and the
ghost of Eddy Greensan for me for me
To: faddario@addario.ca, "Norman.Sabourin"
Cc: David Amos
---------- Original message ----------
From: Frank Addario
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:34:05 +0000
Subject: Re: A-48-16 scanned documents Hey Frank I just called from
902 800 0369 Enjoy the attachment
To: David Amos
Cc: David Amos
David, thanks for your phone call.
I don¹t think there is anything I can do to help you
Frank Addario
T. 1.416.649.5055
F. 1.866.714.1196
171 John Street, Suite 101
Toronto, ON M5T 1X3
www.addario.ca
http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2016/09/re-justice-camp-malicious-nonsense.html
Wednesday, 7 September 2016
RE Justice Camp malicious nonsense versus the RCMP, Peter MacKay
Federal Court, the Canadian Judicial Council and its cover up of the
Monumental Newfy sexual abuse issues
---------- Original message ----------
From: William Brooks
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:21:58 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE Justice Camp malicious nonsense versus
the RCMP, Peter MacKay Federal Court, the Canadian Judicial Council
and its cover up of the Monumental Newfy sexual abuse issues
To: David Amos
My term as Commissioner ended on August 14, 2016. Marc Giroux, Deputy
Commissioner, will be acting as Commissioner. He may be contacted at
613-947-1875 or at
marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca.
If you wish to contact me personally, I may be reached at
wm.brooks@sympatico.ca
__________________________________________________________
Mon mandat de commissaire a pris fin le 14 août 2016. Le
sous-commissaire Marc Giroux agira donc comme commissaire. Vous pouvez
communiquer avec lui au 613-947-1875 ou à
marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca
Vous pouvez communiquer avec moi à titre personnel à
wm.brooks@sympatico.ca.
Bill Brooks
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:21:36 -0400
Subject: RE Justice Camp malicious nonsense versus the RCMP, Peter
MacKay Federal Court, the Canadian Judicial Council and its cover up
of the Monumental Newfy sexual abuse issues
To: nicole.ireland@cbc.ca, meghan.grant@cbc.ca, awoolley@ucalgary.ca,
koshan@ucalgary.ca, elaine.craig@dal.ca, elyn.downie@dal.ca,
"Kathleen.Ganley"
gopublic
Cc: David Amos
"william.brooks"
Judge Robin Camp's rape remarks led to appeal before Peter MacKay promoted him
Judge asked woman in sex assault case why she didn't just keep her
knees together
By Alison Crawford, CBC News Posted: Nov 18, 2015 5:00 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/judge-robin-camp-knees-together-1.3322867
Robin Camp, who berated sex assault complainant, says counselling will
make him a better judge
Federal Court justice will fight to keep his job at judicial council
hearing in September
By Alison Crawford, CBC News Posted: Jul 04, 2016 12:40 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/judge-sex-assault-robin-camp-1.3663552
Judge Robin Camp's 'insensitive, rude' comments not grounds for
dismissal: lawyer
Inquiry will determine if Camp has been remediated or should be
removed from office
By Meghan Grant, CBC News Posted: Sep 06, 2016 1:57 PM MT
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/robin-camp-judge-inquiry-calgary-1.3750135
FRANK ADDARIO
Phone 1.416.649.5055
faddario@addario.ca
https://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/inquiries/goudge/pws/pdf/03/Frank_Addario_CLA.pdf
http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/mariitime-and-yankee-arseholes.html
July 31st, 2005
Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin,
C/o Norman Sabourin General Counsel and
Andrew Grant and Renée Maria Tremblay
Canadian Judicial Council
150 Metcalfe Street,
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0W8
Shirley Heafey Chair of Commission
for Public Complaints against the RCMP
P.O. Box 3423 Station "D"
Ottawa, ON K1P 6L4
RE: Rampant Public Corruption
Hey,
Pursuant to my recent phone calls to Norman Sabourin and various
underlings of Shirley Heafey within the Commission for Public
Complaints against the RCMP over the years plus my many faxes and
emails please find enclosed exactly the same material received by
every Attorney General in Canada over the past year. The CD which is a
copy of a police surveillance wiretap tape # 139 is served upon you as
officers of the court in order that it may be properly investigated.
As you can see I have enclosed a copy of a letter sent to the latest
Attorney General Mr. Wally Opal in BC. Perhaps he should take a little
trip to Surrey and ask your office some hard questions. Perhaps the
ghost of my fellow Independent politician, Chuck Cadman may wish to
answer few questions now as well. Hard telling not knowing.
I will not bother you with the details of what I am sending to
you byway of the certified US Mail because I will be serving identical
material to many other Canadian Authorities in hand and tell them I
gave this stuff to you first and enclose a copy of this letter. All
that is important to me right now is that I secure proof that this
mail was sent before I make my way back home to the Maritimes. However
I will say I am also enclosing a great deal more material than what
Allan Rock had received in the UN. Some of it is in fact the same
material the two maritime lawyers, Rob Moore and Franky Boy McKenna in
particular received, while I was up home running for Parliament last
year. Things have changed greatly in the past year so I have also
included a few recent items to spice thing up for you. I am tired of
trying to convince people employed in law enforcement to uphold the
law. So all I will say for now is deal will your own conscience and be
careful how you respond to this letter. If you do not respond. Rest
assured I will do my best to sue you some day. Ignorance is no excuse
to the law or me.
Veritas Vincit
David R. Amos
153 Alvin Ave
Milton, MA. 02186
Label/Receipt Number: ED71 7170 484U S
Detailed Results:
Delivered Abroad, August 11, 2005, 6:49 am, CANADA
Out of Foreign Customs, August 08, 2005, 2:37 pm, CANADA
Into Foreign Customs, August 04, 2005, 1:52 pm, CANADA
Arrived Abroad, August 04, 2005, 1:52 pm, CANADA
International Dispatch, August 03, 2005, 8:32 am, KENNEDY AMC
Enroute, August 03, 2005, 8:30 am, JAMAICA, NY 11499
Acceptance, August 02, 2005, 10:40 am, QUINCY, MA 02169
"Heafey, Shirley" HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: "Heafey, Shirley"HeafeyS@cpc-cpp.gc.ca
Sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:10:00 -0400
To: "David Amos" motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Just so you know
Just so you know, there was no message attached to the e-mail sent to
me. SO, in fact, I don't know what you think I should now know. Try again.
SH
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/judge-removal-canadian-judicial-council-1.3314962
Robin Camp case: What does it take to remove a judge from the bench?
Only two federally appointed judges recommended for dismissal since 1971
By Nicole Ireland, CBC News Posted: Nov 12, 2015 5:00 AM ET
The case of a judge who asked a woman, "Why couldn't you just keep
your knees together?" during an Alberta sexual assault trial is
raising questions about what kind of behaviour warrants removing a
justice from the bench.
Judge under review for berating sex assault complainant
Read the complaint against Justice Robin Camp
Only two judges have been recommended for removal by the Canadian
Judicial Council — a group of federally appointed judges tasked with
investigating complaints about their peers — since it was created in
1971.
Trevor Farrow
Trevor Farrow, associate dean at Osgoode Hall Law School in Toronto,
says it's 'a good thing' that judges don't lightly recommend
dismissing their peers. (Osgoode Hall Law School)
In both cases, the judges resigned before the recommendations made it
to Parliament, which ultimately decides whether or not to dismiss a
Canadian judge.
On Monday, the judicial council announced it was reviewing the conduct
of Robin Camp while he was an Alberta provincial court judge in 2014,
when he presided over a case involving a 19-year-old woman who alleged
she was sexually assaulted by a Calgary man during a house party.
According to the complaint that prompted the review, in addition to
the "keep your knees together" comment, Camp asked during the trial,
"Why didn't you just sink your bottom down into the basin so he
couldn't penetrate you?" (The woman alleged she was sexually assaulted
over a sink).
"At numerous points during the proceeding, Justice Camp was dismissive
of, if not contemptuous towards, the substantive law of sexual assault
and the rules of evidence," the complaint said. "In particular, he
showed disregard, if not disdain, for the rape shield provisions under
the Criminal Code, the legal definition of consent to sexual touching,
and the Criminal Code provision and case law regarding the doctrine of
recent complaint.
"His articulated disrespect for these legal rules was, in some
instances, combined with a refusal to apply them."
The Canadian Judicial Council must decide whether the complaint
against Camp, now a Federal Court judge, has merit and, if so, whether
it warrants the establishment of a review panel that could call a
public inquiry.
In the last four decades, the judicial council has ordered public
inquiries for 11 complaints against judges. Two of those inquiries are
still ongoing. In some cases, the judge resigned before the inquiry
was complete. For example, the late Judge Robert Flahiff was convicted
in 1999 for laundering money for a drug dealer back in the 1980s,
before he became a judge. He resigned before the judicial council
finished its inquiry.
Former Quebec judge convicted of money laundering dies
Convicted Quebec judge resigns
In other cases, the council recommended that the judges involved not
be removed from the bench — even if there had been inappropriate
conduct.
"It's not a fait accompli that if you have engaged in some kind of
misconduct you should be removed from office," said Norman Sabourin,
the Canadian Judicial Council's executive director, in an interview
with CBC News on Tuesday. "Assessing the gravity of a misconduct is a
difficult exercise."
Media placeholder
Canadian Judicial Council exec on review of judge's behaviour7:06
The overarching question in making that determination, the council
said, is whether the judge has the required confidence of the public
to continue to preside in court.
So when has the council recommended that a judge be removed? Here are
the two cases in which that happened. The details come from documents
available on the Canadian Judicial Council's website:
Paul Cosgrove, Ontario Superior Court
On April 22, 2004, Ontario's attorney general at the time, Michael
Bryant, asked the council to consider whether Judge Paul Cosgrove
should be removed from office based on his conduct in the murder trial
of Julia Yvonne Elliott.
The attorney general said Cosgrove had ordered an "unwarranted stay"
of proceedings.
Ontario judge resigns over misconduct
"The proceedings tarnished the administration of justice and turned
into an exercise of vilifying the state built on irrelevant,
inappropriate and harmful findings," Bryant wrote. "The proceedings
trivialized the charter and deprived society and the victim's family
of any semblance of justice."
The attorney general's complaint alleged that Cosgrove had
demonstrated similar behaviour in other court cases, citing Court of
Appeal findings that the judge had "reduced the proceedings to a
'procedural nightmare' for the Crown" and shown a "suspicious attitude
toward the government that caused him to misapprehend some of the
evidence before him."
On March 30, 2009, after a public inquiry, the Canadian Judicial
Council recommended that Cosgrove be removed from office. The judge
resigned the following month.
Jean Bienvenue, Superior Court of Quebec
In December 1995, the then attorneys general of Quebec and Canada,
Paul Bégin and Allan Rock, asked the Canadian Judicial Council for a
public inquiry into the conduct of Judge Jean Bienvenue during the
trial of Tracy Théberge, who was convicted of second-degree murder in
death of her husband.
According to the inquiry report, Bienvenue made offensive comments
about Jewish victims of the Holocaust and about women while sentencing
the accused.
"It is said that when women ascend the scale of virtues, they reach
higher than men, and I have always believed this. And it is also said,
and this too I believe, that when they decide to degrade themselves,
they sink to depths to which even the vilest man could not sink,"
Bienvenue said.
The judge also said: "At the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp in
Poland, which I once visited horror-stricken, even the Nazis did not
eliminate millions of Jews in a painful or bloody manner. They died in
the gas chambers, without suffering."
During the inquiry, Bienvenue argued that he had not meant to be
offensive and that he had met with the Canadian Jewish Congress. He
also issued a statement apologizing to women offended by his remarks.
On June 25, 1996, four out of five members of the Canadian Judicial
Council committee recommended that Bienvenue be removed from office.
They wrote, "We believe that if Mr. Justice Bienvenue were to preside
over a case, a reasonable and informed person... would have a
reasonable apprehension that the judge would not execute his office
with the objectivity, impartiality and independence that the public is
entitled to expect from a judge."
Bienvenue resigned before the recommendation went to Parliament.
What does the low number of removals mean?
The rarity of judges removing their peers from the bench is a
reflection of the value Canada places on an independent judiciary,
said Trevor Farrow, a professor and associate dean at Osgoode Hall Law
School in Toronto.
"Judges don't recommend removal lightly," he said. "That's a good
thing when you're balancing the requirement that judges have the
courage and independence to make tough choices in often really
challenging circumstances that involve vulnerable people."
At the same time, Farrow said, it's important that the Canadian
Judicial Council has "the power to recommend sanctions, including
removal if warranted, to maintain the public's trust and confidence."
With files from Kathleen Harris, Alison Crawford and The Canadian Press
https://www.mcgill.ca/law/about/staff
Robert Leckey
Dean, Faculty of Law
Old Chancellor Day Hall
3644 Peel Street Room 15
Montreal, Quebec
Canada H3A 1W9
514-398-6604 [Office]
dean.law@mcgill.ca
http://lawjournal.mcgill.ca/en/text/96
The Politics of Judicial Appointments, part I
Posted on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:00:00 +0000
The federal government has been criticized for allegedly picking
judges based on political considerations and in a non-transparent
manner. In the first part of a two-part episode on the federal
judicial appointment process, we look into the scope of the
government’s discretion in naming judges and the role that ideology or
partisanship might play in the process. We speak with Sean Fine,
justice reporter at the Globe and Mail; Professor Robert Leckey of
McGill’s Faculty of Law; and David Gourdeau, a former commissioner for
federal judicial affairs.
The Politics of Judicial Appointments, part II
Posted on Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:30:00 +0000
The former federal government has been criticized for allegedly
picking judges based on political considerations and in a
non-transparent manner. In the second part of a two-part episode on
the federal judicial appointment process, we look into whether the
current process needs to be reformed and, if it does, how. We speak
with Leonid Sirota, J.S.D. Candidate at the New York University School
of Law and Professor Rosemary Cairns Way from the University of
Ottawa’s Faculty of Law.
Lawyers We Can Trust? The Good Character and Mental Fitness Requirements
Posted on Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:00:00 +0000
Every law society in Canada requires that prospective lawyers satisfy
some version of the requirements of good character and mental fitness.
In this episode, we discuss the meaning, purpose and effectiveness of
these requirements with Professor Alice Woolley of the University of
Calgary’s Faculty of Law and Mr. Raj Anand, a partner at WeirFoulds
LLP and bencher of the Law Society of Upper Canada.
http://globalnews.ca/news/2612649/looming-inquiry-into-federal-judge-exposes-flaws-with-canadas-judicial-appointment-process/
"When a lawyer or provincial judge applies for a job to one of those
courts an application is filled out. That application goes to the
Office of the Commissioner of Federal Judicial Affairs. Consider this
the administrative arm of the appointment process.
The Office of the Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs does an
initial screening, ensuring the person meets the statutory
requirements. Then the applications gets passed onto the provincial
committee — the Judicial Advisory Committee (JAC).
JACs are supposed to do a thorough vetting of a candidate; this means
evaluating competency and fitness for the bench, checking references,
and calling various members of the legal community.
If the applicant is a lawyer the committee members can then either say
on the application “recommend” or “unable to recommend.” The
application then gets sent to the Justice Minister’s office.
But if the applicant is a provincial court judge things are different.
JACs cannot “recommend” or “not recommend” those candidates. When the
candidate is a provincial court judge, the JAC can only comment on a
candidate’s suitability for the bench. Those applications are
automatically forwarded to the Justice Minister."
WATCH: Former Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs David Gourdeau
explains the appointment process
For the record I had a long talk with David Gourdeau in the fall of
2005 before the writ was dropped for the election of the 39th
Parlaiment. I liked the guy and apparentely harper did not because he
did not keep his job as Commissioner after I sent him the document I
promised. I have never been able to speak to Gourdeau since
then.However David Gourdeau obviously does speak to "Journalists" and
law students. Ne'sy Pas Dominic Leblanc and Prime Ministe Trudeau
"The Younger"???
http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/qrtrl-fnncl-rprt-20150930/index-en.aspx
On September 14, 2015, Mr. Michael Sousa joined Public Safety as the
Executive Director and Senior General Counsel of Legal Services.
Approved by:
Original signed by
François Guimont, Deputy Minister
Public Safety Canada
Ottawa (Canada)
November 18, 2015
Michael Sousa
Executive Director & Senior General Counsel
Public Safety Canada
Legal Services
269 Laurier Ave. W.
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0P8
Phone: 613-991-9375
Fax: 613-990-8307
Email: Michael.Sousa@ps-sp.gc.ca
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/judges-probe-potential-misconduct-1.4013170
'Potential misconduct' probe launched into judges after CBC revelations
Tax court justice seen on video attending KPMG-linked party
By Harvey Cashore, Kimberly Ivany, Nicole McCormick, Gillian Findlay,
CBC News Posted: Mar 07, 2017 6:23 PM ET
The body that oversees federally appointed judges in Canada has
launched an investigation into three judges after revelations on CBC's
the fifth estate and Radio-Canada's Enquête last week.
The Canadian Judicial Council began the review following the
documentaries that showed two judges attending evening social events
during a KPMG-sponsored tax conference in Madrid last fall. A third
judge, the chief justice of the Tax Court of Canada, was revealed
making a speech in which he promoted drinking alcohol with the tax
industry.
"I decided that it was important to initiate a review of the
situation," Norman Sabourin, executive director of the council, said
Tuesday, citing "potential conflict of interest."
Norman Sabourin
Norman Sabourin, executive director of the Canadian Judicial Council,
says he 'decided that it was important to initiate a review of the
situation.' (CBC)
In an exclusive interview, Sabourin told the fifth estate that he
launched two investigations after watching the CBC coverage. A further
investigation into a third judge was launched after a complaint was
received from the public.
The judges under review are Eugene Rossiter, chief justice of the Tax
Court of Canada; Randall Bocock, a Tax Court of Canada judge in
Vancouver; and Denis Pelletier, a judge with the Federal Court of
Appeal, which hears appeals of tax court cases.
the fifth estate called and emailed the Tax Court of Canada and the
Federal Court of Appeal for comment on the investigation. By Tuesday
evening, CBC received no response.
Watch "The Untouchables" on CBC's the fifth estate
Tax court judge attended party hsoted by law firm linked to KPMG
Wealthy Canadians exposed in KPMG offshore tax 'sham'
"I think in the public interest and for the judge's own interest, it's
good for the council to shed light on the situation, to review the
issue and to come to a decision as to whether or not there is a
potential misconduct there," Sabourin said. "I think the public
expects things will be reviewed diligently."
For tips on this story, email investigations@cbc.ca or phone
Harvey Cashore at 416-526-4704
Is there a conflict of interest?
Sabourin told CBC News he has already informed the three judges of the
review process, described by the council as an initial
"investigation."
That investigation, which could take up to two months, could end there
or, if unresolved, the matter could be referred to a special review
panel.
KPMG offshore tax dodge a 'facade' designed to hide money, ex-client says
KPMG offshore 'sham deceived tax authorities, CRA alleges
Sabourin cautioned there are "benefits" in judges attending
educational tax conferences. The judicial council itself signed off on
the Madrid conference. He said concerns relate to the judges attending
evening social events.
"I think now we delve into the area of potential conflict of interest.
And again, I can't comment on specific cases, and that's why we need
to do a review in this particular instance to find out all the facts,
to find out if there is a possibility of a conflict of interest."
Eugene RossiterTax Court of Canada
Chief Justice Eugene Rossiter of the Tax Court of Canada addressed
industry accountants and academics at a tax conference in Calgary last
November. (Tax Court of Canada)
At a recent tax conference in Calgary, Rossiter defended the practice
of judges on his tax court drinking alcohol at evening social events
with tax industry officials.
"We will have coffee and we will have pizza and we will have wine and
lots of it," he said before hundreds of accountants, lawyers and other
members of the tax industry from across Canada.
Sabourin declined to comment on those remarks, except to say that
chief justices in particular have a duty to "set ethical aspirations."
"Chief justices of course are considered to be role models. They are
the members of the Canadian Judicial Council. They set the ethical
aspirations for judges collectively."
He said there can be occasions when judges and lawyers get together
for drinks without there being anything inappropriate.
'Good exchanges can take place'
"If the wine at some point is paid by the bar, the next day is paid by
the bench, these are normal gatherings where good exchanges can take
place."
At an international tax conference in Madrid last fall, CBC cameras
captured one of Rossiter's judges, Randall Bocock, attending an
evening soiree on a rooftop terrace sponsored by a law firm linked to
KPMG.
Justice Randall Bocock
Justice Randall Bocock travelled to Madrid last year to attend
conference put on by the International Fiscal Association. (CBC)
Bocock is the case management judge in a KPMG-related file involving a
tax dodge the accounting firm set up in the Isle of Man. The Canada
Revenue Agency alleges in court documents that scheme is a "sham" that
"intended to deceive" the federal treasury.
The law firm hosting the Madrid party, Dentons, is named in those
court documents as allegedly signing off on the KPMG tax dodge before
it was sold to wealthy Canadians.
Bocock is currently the case management judge in the Vancouver tax
court case and will likely not be the judge presiding over the actual
trial. No trial date has been set.
Dennis Pelletier
Federal Court of Appeal Judge Denis Pelletier is seen exiting Madrid’s
Prado Museum. (CBC)
Pelletier was also at the KPMG-sponsored conference. CBC footage shows
him attending a social event at the Prado Museum.
Pelletier initially denied attending any of the conference's evening
social events. The Federal Court of Appeal later clarified that there
had been a "miscommunication" and that he did in fact attend.
For tips on this story, email investigations@cbc.ca or phone
Harvey Cashore at 416-526-4704
---------- Original message ----------
From: Green Party of Canada | Parti vert du Canada
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 13:53:00 +0000
Subject: Re: ATTN Hon Joseph T Robertson Please view attached
documents FYI President Trump's lawyers and everybody else knows that
you can find a great deal more on file in the Federal Court in
Fredericton
To: David Amos
-- Please reply above this line --
---------- Original message ----------
From: Póstur FOR
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:51:17 +0000
Subject: Re: ATTN Hon Joseph T Robertson Please view attached
documents FYI President Trump's lawyers and everybody else knows that
you can find a great deal more on file in the Federal Court in
Fredericton
To: David Amos
Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
Kveðja / Best regards
Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 09:46:20 -0400
Subject: ATTN Hon Joseph T Robertson Please view attached documents
FYI President Trump's lawyers and everybody else knows that you can
find a great deal more on file in the Federal Court in Fredericton
To: Joseph.Robertson@unb.ca, jrw
nbrooks@osgoode.yorku.ca, "mark.vespucci" ,
"Diane.Lebouthillier"
president
Cc: David Amos
davies"
Hon Joseph T Robertson
Jurist-in-Residence
Law, Faculty of
1 506 451 6919
Ludlow Hall, 105
UNB Fredericton Campus
Joseph.Robertson@unb.ca
---------- Original message ----------
From: Michael Cohen
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called and left a message for you
To: David Amos
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Finance Public / Finance Publique (FIN)"
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:05:00 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo President Trump RE the Federal Court of Canada File No
T-1557-15 lets see how the media people do with news that is NOT FAKE
To: David Amos
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> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Póstur FOR
> >> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 22:05:47 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: Hey Premier Gallant please inform the questionable
> >> parliamentarian Birigtta Jonsdottir that although NB is a small "Have
> >> Not" province at least we have twice the population of Iceland and
> >> that not all of us are as dumb as she and her Prime Minister pretends
> >> to be..
> >> To: David Amos
> >>
> >> Erindi þitt hefur verið móttekið / Your request has been received
> >>
> >> Kveðja / Best regards
> >> Forsætisráðuneytið / Prime Minister's Office
> >>
> >>
> >> This is the docket
> >>
> >>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
> >>
> >> These are digital recordings of the last two hearings
> >>
> >> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
> >>
> >> Jan 11th https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
> >>
> >> This me running for a seat in Parliament again while CBC denies it again
> >>
> >> Fundy Royal, New Brunswick Debate – Federal Elections 2015 - The Local
> >> Campaign, Rogers TV
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE
> >>
> >>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276
> >>
> >> Veritas Vincit
> >> David Raymond Amos
> >> 902 800 0369
> >>
> >>
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From:
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>
>
> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
> essential for the security and tranquility of the developed world. An
> ISIS “caliphate,” in the Middle East, no matter how small, is a clear
> and present danger to the entire world. This “occupied state,”
> or“failed state” will prosecute an unending Islamic inspired war of
> terror against not only the “western world,” but Arab states
> “moderate” or not, as well. The security, safety, and tranquility of
> Canada and Canadians are just at risk now with the emergence of an
> ISIS“caliphate” no matter how large or small, as it was with the
> Taliban and Al Quaeda “marriage” in Afghanistan.
>
> One of the everlasting “legacies” of the “Trudeau the Elder’s dynasty
> was Canada and successive Liberal governments cowering behind the
> amerkan’s nuclear and conventional military shield, at the same time
> denigrating, insulting them, opposing them, and at the same time
> self-aggrandizing ourselves as “peace keepers,” and progenitors of
> “world peace.” Canada failed. The United States of Amerka, NATO, the
> G7 and or G20 will no longer permit that sort of sanctimonious
> behavior from Canada or its government any longer. And Prime Minister
> Stephen Harper, Foreign Minister John Baird , and Cabinet are fully
> cognizant of that reality. Even if some editorial boards, and pundits
> are not.
>
> Justin, Trudeau “the younger” is reprising the time “honoured” liberal
> mantra, and tradition of expecting the amerkans or the rest of the
> world to do “the heavy lifting.” Justin Trudeau and his “butt buddy”
> David Amos are telling Canadians that we can guarantee our security
> and safety by expecting other nations to fight for us. That Canada can
> and should attempt to guarantee Canadians safety by providing
> “humanitarian aid” somewhere, and call a sitting US president a “war
> criminal.” This morning Australia announced they too, were sending
> tactical aircraft to eliminate the menace of an ISIS “caliphate.”
>
> In one sense Prime Minister Harper is every bit the scoundrel Trudeau
> “the elder” and Jean ‘the crook” Chretien was. Just As Trudeau, and
> successive Liberal governments delighted in diminishing,
> marginalizing, under funding Canadian Forces, and sending Canadian
> military men and women to die with inadequate kit and modern
> equipment; so too is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada’s F-18s are
> antiquated, poorly equipped, and ought to have been replaced five
> years ago. But alas, there won’t be single RCAF fighter jock that
> won’t go, or won’t want to go, to make Canada safe or safer.
>
> My Grandfather served this country. My father served this country. My
> Uncle served this country. And I have served this country. Justin
> Trudeau has not served Canada in any way. Thomas Mulcair has not
> served this country in any way. Liberals and so called social
> democrats haven’t served this country in any way. David Amos, and
> other drooling fools have not served this great nation in any way. Yet
> these fools are more than prepared to ensure their, our safety to
> other nations, and then criticize them for doing so.
>
> Canada must again, now, “do our bit” to guarantee our own security,
> and tranquility, but also that of the world. Canada has never before
> shirked its responsibility to its citizens and that of the world.
>
> Prime Minister Harper will not permit this country to do so now
>
> From: dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:17:17 -0400
> Subject: RE: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and
> the War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still
> alive
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> This is to confirm that the Minister of National Defence has received
> your email and it will be reviewed in due course. Please do not reply
> to this message: it is an automatic acknowledgement.
>
> >>>>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:55:30 -0300
> Subject: Re Greg Weston, The CBC , Wikileaks, USSOCOM, Canada and the
> War in Iraq (I just called SOCOM and let them know I was still alive
> To: DECPR@forces.gc.ca, Public.Affairs@socom.mil,
> Raymonde.Cleroux@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, john.adams@cse-cst.gc.ca,
> william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, stoffp1
> dnd_mdn@forces.gc.ca, media@drdc-rddc.gc.ca, information@forces.gc.ca,
> milner@unb.ca, charters@unb.ca, lwindsor@unb.ca,
> sarah.weir@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca, birgir
>
> susan@blueskystrategygroup.com, Don@blueskystrategygroup.com,
> eugene@blueskystrategygroup.com, americas@aljazeera.net
> Cc: "Edith. Cody-Rice"
>
>
>
> I talked to Don Newman earlier this week before the beancounters David
> Dodge and Don Drummond now of Queen's gave their spin about Canada's
> Health Care system yesterday and Sheila Fraser yapped on and on on
> CAPAC during her last days in office as if she were oh so ethical.. To
> be fair to him I just called Greg Weston (613-288-6938) I suggested
> that he should at least Google SOUCOM and David Amos It would be wise
> if he check ALL of CBC's sources before he publishes something else
> about the DND EH Don Newman? Lets just say that the fact that your
> old CBC buddy, Tony Burman is now in charge of Al Jazeera English
> never impressed me. The fact that he set up a Canadian office is
> interesting though
>
> http://www.blueskystrategygroup.com/index.php/team/don-newman/
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/media/story/2010/05/04/al-jazeera-english-launch.html
>
> Anyone can call me back and stress test my integrity after they read
> this simple pdf file. BTW what you Blue Sky dudes pubished about
> Potash Corp and BHP is truly funny. Perhaps Stevey Boy Harper or Brad
> Wall will fill ya in if you are to shy to call mean old me.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right
>
> The Governor General, the PMO and the PCO offices know that I am not a
> shy political animal
>
> Veritas Vincit
> David Raymond Amos
> 902 800 0369
>
> Enjoy Mr Weston
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-wikileaks.html
>
> "But Lang, defence minister McCallum's chief of staff, says military
> brass were not entirely forthcoming on the issue. For instance, he
> says, even McCallum initially didn't know those soldiers were helping
> to plan the invasion of Iraq up to the highest levels of command,
> including a Canadian general.
>
> That general is Walt Natynczyk, now Canada's chief of defence staff,
> who eight months after the invasion became deputy commander of 35,000
> U.S. soldiers and other allied forces in Iraq. Lang says Natynczyk was
> also part of the team of mainly senior U.S. military brass that helped
> prepare for the invasion from a mobile command in Kuwait."
>
> http://baconfat53.blogspot.com/2010/06/canada-and-united-states.html
>
> "I remember years ago when the debate was on in Canada, about there
> being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Our American 'friends"
> demanded that Canada join into "the Coalition of the Willing. American
> "veterans" and sportscasters loudly denounced Canada for NOT buying
> into the US policy.
>
> At the time I was serving as a planner at NDHQ and with 24 other of my
> colleagues we went to Tampa SOUCOM HQ to be involved in the planning
> in the planning stages of the op....and to report to NDHQ, that would
> report to the PMO upon the merits of the proposed operation. There was
> never at anytime an existing target list of verified sites where there
> were deployed WMD.
>
> Coalition assets were more than sufficient for the initial strike and
> invasion phase but even at that point in the planning, we were
> concerned about the number of "boots on the ground" for the occupation
> (and end game) stage of an operation in Iraq. We were also concerned
> about the American plans for occupation plans of Iraq because they at
> that stage included no contingency for a handing over of civil
> authority to a vetted Iraqi government and bureaucracy.
>
> There was no detailed plan for Iraq being "liberated" and returned to
> its people...nor a thought to an eventual exit plan. This was contrary
> to the lessons of Vietnam but also to current military thought, that
> folks like Colin Powell and "Stuffy" Leighton and others elucidated
> upon. "What's the mission" how long is the mission, what conditions
> are to met before US troop can redeploy? Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> and the PMO were even at the very preliminary planning stages wary of
> Canadian involvement in an Iraq operation....History would prove them
> correct. The political pressure being applied on the PMO from the
> George W Bush administration was onerous
>
> American military assets were extremely overstretched, and Canadian
> military assets even more so It was proposed by the PMO that Canadian
> naval platforms would deploy to assist in naval quarantine operations
> in the Gulf and that Canadian army assets would deploy in Afghanistan
> thus permitting US army assets to redeploy for an Iraqi
> operation....The PMO thought that "compromise would save Canadian
> lives and liberal political capital.. and the priority of which
> ....not necessarily in that order. "
>
> You can bet that I called these sneaky Yankees again today EH John
> Adams? of the CSE within the DND?
>
> http://www.socom.mil/SOCOMHome/Pages/ContactUSSOCOM.aspx
>
>
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