My understanding of this hearing is that you have to report to Mr. Trudeau by December 1

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:12:27 +0000
Subject: RE: La revue de la semaine législative, 3 février 2018
Perhaps Mr Coon should review some things too
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 08:12:13 -0400
Subject: Re: La revue de la semaine législative, 3 février 2018
Perhaps Mr Coon should review some things too
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andre <andre@jafaust.com>, COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>,
"Matt.DeCourcey" <Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca>, 

 "Karen.Ludwig"<Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca>, "Alaina.Lockhart" <Alaina.Lockhart@parl.gc.ca>, "Ginette.PetitpasTaylor" <Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca>, 

 "blaine.higgs"<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
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 newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, "ed.pilkington" <ed.pilkington@guardian.co.uk>, "Ed.Doherty" <Ed.Doherty@gnb.ca>, 

"francis.scarpaleggia"<francis.scarpaleggia@parl.gc.ca>, 

"elizabeth.may"<elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>, cullen1 <cullen1@parl.gc.ca>,

 jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>
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djtjr <djtjr@trumporg.com>

Yo Davey Baby have you checked the sitemter on my Blog lately?

Seems I have the Russians for Fans EH?

Do ya think they will interfere in the next elction in the LIEbranos
"Place To Be"???

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/02/my-understanding-of-this-hearing-is.html

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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 12:50:40 +0000
Subject: RE: YO Bill Morneau Need I say that I got a great laugh listening to Terry Seguin
of CBC read the sneaky lady Margo Sheppard's message about the Bank Of Canada and
Trudeau The Elder's dirty deeds
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:50:31 -0400
Subject: YO Bill Morneau Need I say that I got a great laugh listening to Terry Seguin
of CBC read the sneaky lady Margo Sheppard's message about the Bank Of Canada and
Trudeau The Elder's dirty deeds
To: "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
 "Cathy.Rogers" <Cathy.Rogers@gnb.ca>, "terry.seguin" <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>,
 "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, "Matt.DeCourcey" <Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca>,
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Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "Erin.Weir" <Erin.Weir@parl.gc.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>,

news <news@kingscorecord.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, 

andre <andre@jafaust.com>, jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>

Everybody and his dog knows the sneaky Sheppard is a buddy of David
Coon and Chucky Leblanc. However what Seguin read about the Bank Of
Canada and Trudeau The Elder's dirty deeds is also well known but was
never admitted to by the Crown until today at least on a Crown
Corporation's airwaves N'esy Pas Matt DeCourcey?

https://mobile.twitter.com/margosheppard?lang=en

Margo Sheppard
@MargoSheppard
Fredericton, NB. Every debt must be repaid, whether by the borrower,
the lender or by everybody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4buzTP4jCI

Protesting in Fredericton the cancelling of Electoral Reform by Justin
Trudeau!!!
Charles Leblanc
Published on Feb 1, 2018
Protesting in Fredericton the cancelling of Electoral Reform by Justin
Trudeau!!!

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2018/02/my-understanding-of-this-hearing-is.html

Thursday, 1 February 2018
My understanding of this hearing is that you have to report to Mr.
Trudeau by December 1

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-electoral-reform-january-2018-1.4511902

A year later, Trudeau will only revisit electoral reform if pushed by other parties — something MPs don't buy

PM says proportional representation would divide MPs, be harmful to Canadians

By Elise von Scheel, CBC News Posted: Feb 01, 2018 11:53 AM ET


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David Amos

@Al Heywood "Canadians have lost trust in Justin Trudeau liberals"

FYI Many Canadians never trusted Trudeau The Younger or his fat cat liberal lawyer father either.

ME TOO

bill chagwich

YES FOLKS, I was elected to help you,but to my own interest electoral reform will not work for me or my voter base, therefore take my promise and kinda forget about it,

the honorable Justin Trudeau
better know as what I promise means nothing,just a election plot

bill chagwich

@bill chagwich we all know what this is all about,CAMPAIGNING on the middle class tax payers dime

Darryl McBride

@bill chagwich

Reinforcing, how can one have credibility with no ethics.

David Amos

@bill chagwich 

Friday, October 7, 2016 Friday, Oct. 7, 2016
Electoral Reform Meeting 39

The Chair:
Thank you very much.
Mr. David Amos, the floor is yours.

Mr. David Amos (As an Individual):
Mr. Chair, I ran for public office five times against your party. 

That said, I ran against Mr. DeCourcey's boss right here in  Fredericton in the election for the 39th Parliament. 

I was not aware of this committee meeting in Fredericton today  until I heard Mr. DeCourcey speaking on CBC this morning. I don't  pretend to know something I don't, but I'm a quick study. I thought I
had paid my dues to sit on the panel. I notified the clerks in a  timely fashion, but I received no response. At least I get another  minute and a half. 

The previous speaker answered the $64,000 question: 338. I can  name every premier in the country. Governor Maggie Hassan is my  governor in New Hampshire. The people there who sit in the house get  paid $100 a year plus per diem expenses. I think that's the way to run  a government. There are lots of seats in the house for a very small state. 

My understanding of this hearing is that you have to report to Mr.  Trudeau by December 1, because he said during the election that if he  were elected Prime Minister, the 42nd Parliament, which I also ran in,  would be the last first-past-the-post election. You don't have much  time, so my suggestion to the clerks today, which I published and sent  to the Prime Minister of Iceland and his Attorney General, was to do  what Iceland does. Just cut and paste their rules. They have no first  past the post. They have a pending election.

David Amos

@David Amos 

           A former friend of mine, Birgitta Jónsdóttir, founded a party there, for which there is no leader. It is the Pirate Party. It's high in the polls right now with no leader. That's interesting. I tweeted this. You folks said that you follow tweets, so you should have seen  what I tweeted before I came here this evening. 

          That said, as a Canadian, I propose something else. Number one, my understanding of the Constitution and what I read about law.... There was a constitutional expert named Edgar Schmidt who sued the government. He was the man who was supposed to vet bills for Peter MacKay to make sure they were constitutionally correct. He did not argue the charter. He argued Mr. Diefenbaker's Bill of Rights. 

           In 2002 I read a document filed by a former deputy minister of finance, Kevin Lynch, who later became Mr. Harper's clerk of the Privy Council. Now he's on an independent board of the Chinese oil company that bought Nexen. As deputy minister of finance, he reported to the  American Securities and Exchange Commission on behalf of the corporation known as Canada. It is a very interesting document that I saved and forwarded to you folks. It says that he was in a quandary about whether the charter was in effect.
(2005)

David Amos

@David Amos

The Chair:
Could it be in relation to a particular voting system?

Mr. David Amos:
According to Mr. Lynch, because of the failure of the Meech Lake and Charlottetown accords, he was in a quandary as to whether the charter was in effect. I know that the Supreme Court argues it on a daily basis. That charter, created by Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Chrétien, his attorney general at the time, gave me the right to run for public office and vote as a Canadian citizen. However, in the 1990s, Mr. Chrétien came out with a law, and because I am a permanent American resident, I can't vote. Yet the charter says I can.

The Chair:
That's a—

Mr. David Amos:
That said, that's been argued in court. In 2000, Mr. Chrétien came out with a law that said I couldn't vote. Right? He also took away my social insurance number.

The Chair:
I don't know about the case—

Mr. David Amos:
No, he did.

The Chair:
But I don't know about the case.

Mr. David Amos:
I did prove, after I argued with Elections Canada's lawyers in 2004.... You might have taken away my right to vote, but you can't stop me from running for public office, and I proved it five times.

The Chair:
Given that you're an experienced candidate—

Mr. David Amos:
Very experienced.

The Chair:
—does that experience provide you with a particular insight on the voting systems we're looking at?

Mr. David Amos:
In Mr. Trudeau's words, he has to come up with a plan and no more first past the post. My suggestion to you, in my contact today, is to cut and paste Iceland's rules.

David Amos

@David Amos 

The Chair:
What kind of system does Iceland have?

Mr. David Amos:
It's just what you need, just what Mr. Trudeau is ordering now. It's proportional elections.

The Chair:
Is it MMP, or is it just...?

Mr. David Amos:
I tweeted you the beginner's book for Iceland.

The Chair:
Okay, we'll look at Iceland.
We're just checking on the kind of system they have, but I appreciate the input, especially from a candidate, from somebody who has run many times.
But we do have—

Mr. David Amos:
I have two other points, because I don't think you can pull this off. I don't think it will happen.

The Chair:
Well, I'm hoping we do.

Mr. David Amos:
Here is my suggestion. You guys are going north.

The Chair:
Yes.

Mr. David Amos:
Look how parliamentarians are elected in the Northwest
Territories. There is no party, and I like that.

The Chair:
That's true. We were just up in Yellowknife, in fact, and we learned all about that. That's why it's good for us to be travelling the country.
But, sir, I—

Mr. David Amos:
I have one more suggestion.

The Chair:
One more.

Mr. David Amos:
Mr. Harper changed the Canada Elections Act and I still couldn't vote.

The Chair:
Yes, I was in the House when that happened.

 

David Amos 

@David Amos 

Mr. David Amos:

Anyway, that said, when you alter the Canada Elections Act, make it....
The biggest problem we have is, look at the vast majority of people who, like me, have never voted in their life. Apathy rules the day.

The Chair:
Except that you've put us on to an idea about Iceland—

Mr. David Amos:
Let me finish.
I suggest that you make voting mandatory, such as Australia does. Make it that if you don't vote, it costs you money, just like if you don't report to Statistics Canada.

The Chair:
Well, we're talking about that. That is part of our mandate, to look at mandatory voting and online voting.
You already had your last suggestion.
(2010)

Mr. David Amos:
Put in the line, “none of the above”, and if “none of the above” wins—

The Chair:
That's right, we've heard that, too.

Mr. David Amos:
Well, I haven't.

The Chair:
We've heard that in our testimony.

Mr. David Amos:
You and I will be talking again, trust me on that one, by way of writing.
You answered my emails, Ma'am.

The Chair:
Thank you very much, sir.
Now we'll hear from Julie Maitland.



Jack Richards

You mean not in Justin's best interest.

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David Amos

@Jack Richards Much to the chagrin of Madame May the Leader of the Green Party and Mr Cullen MP of the NDP and their buddy Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger" the statements I inserted within the "Most Liked" comment thread of "bill chagwich" immediately above this thread at this point in time were in posted in the public interest not theirs.

Clearly that conversation with the Chair occurred during one of the last hearings of the traveling Road Show called the ERRE Committee and was sourced verbatim from the parliamentary records..

Heres hoping the comment above stand the test of time within the CBC domain

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David Amos

@Jack Richards So much for the Integrity of the CBC the comment above was blocked in a heartbeat

David Amos

@Jack Richards Trust that CBC is certainly watching out for the best interests of their latest boss

Nick Poppell

Lost my vote. BC will show him the error of his ways...

David Amos

@Nick Poppell "BC will show him the error of his ways.."

I would not bet much on that happening.

Ed Jackson

If he wanted a ranked ballot system, why did he not run on a promise of a ranked ballot system? Instead of deceiving Canadians that other options were in play.

David Amos

Another liberal mantra, we will say what ever wins us the election, then renege after we win @Ed Jackson "If he wanted a ranked ballot system, why did he not run on a promise of a ranked ballot system?"

Trudeau "The Younger" is the leader of a federal political party. When was the last time you believed anything any of them ever claimed in order to get elected? 

James fisher

Another liberal mantra, we will say what ever wins us the election, then renege after we win.

 

David Amos

@James fisher Methinks Mr Harper and all other politicians behave in the same fashion N'esy Pas?

 
John Reekie

This one is a deal breaker for me. A big promise cynically broken. Clearly never was gonna happen. The current system favors the Liberals. Won't be fooled again.

Dan Nowak

@Richard O'Mara Unless your candidate won and is in government your vote did not matter. In government your MP is loyal to the party and is forced to act in it's best interest, not your so your vote still did not matter.

David Amos

@Dan Nowak Oh so true Sir

A year later, Trudeau will only revisit electoral reform if pushed by other parties — something MPs don't buy

PM says proportional representation would divide MPs, be harmful to Canadians

By Elise von Scheel, CBC News Posted: Feb 01, 2018 11:53 AM ET

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says his government's decision to drop electoral reform was in the best interest of Canadians a decision lambasted by politicians and Canadians alike, with opposition MPs labelling it a betrayal. (Marc Robichaud/CBC)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he has no plans to resurrect the Liberal campaign promise of electoral reform unless the other political parties agree to a system other than proportional representation.

Reforming Canada's electoral system was a foundational pillar of the Liberals' campaign platform in 2015, with Trudeau promising that election would be the last conducted under the first-past-the-post system.

The government struck a parliamentary committee, conducted town hall meetings and sent out a national survey on the issue.

Trudeau answers questions on electoral reform

00:00 02:16

Trudeau answers questions on electoral reform2:16

And then, one year ago, Trudeau sent a mandate letter to the new minister of democratic institutions informing her that electoral reform would not be one of her directives.

Trudeau said no clear choice had emerged for an alternative system of voting — and he didn't want to see Canada adopt proportional representation for the sake of change.

• Opposition accuses Trudeau of 'betrayal' as Liberals abandon promise of electoral reform

• How Trudeau lost his way on electoral reform

In an interview this week with CBC Radio's The House, Trudeau said proportional representation would divide Canadians as it would "exacerbate small differences in the electorate."

The 2017 decision was lambasted by politicians and Canadians alike, with opposition MPs labelling it a betrayal.

Trudeau's decision was "one of the most cynical displays of self-serving politics this government has yet to engage in," said Nathan Cullen, the NDP's democratic reform critic, at the time.

Not in Canada's best interest: PM

One year later, Trudeau still stands firm that dropping electoral reform from his government's to-do list was in the best interest of the country.

"Nobody supporting proportional representation was able to convince me it would be good for Canada," he said.

"I came to very clearly believe that a form of proportional representation would be harmful to Canada."

• With electoral reform off the table, minister defends first-past-the-post

• Trudeau's Liberals check their to-do list: 67 promises down, more than 200 still to go

Trudeau maintained that reform wouldn't be revived under his first mandate. But whether electoral change in another form makes a comeback in 2019 is up to Canadians, he said, and the other political parties.

"I will not move towards any form of proportional representation, but if people want to talk about a different system that might benefit Canadians, like a preferential ballot, I'd be open to that," he said.

Trudeau on canceling electoral reform

00:00 01:16

Trudeau on canceling electoral reform1:16

'A giant betrayal'

His comments were unsurprising to Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, who was on the parliamentary committee on electoral reform.

"I don't think the candidate Justin Trudeau when he made the promise had done his homework first, and I don't think the Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had done his homework when he broke the promise," she said Wednesday.

May expressed her frustration that the parliamentary committee has been putting new ideas on reform to the prime minister for months with no results.

She stands by the recommendation of the committee to have a referendum, she added, and let Canadians decide which voting system they want.

The broken promise needs to be put in the past, she said, and attention should shift to a concrete plan for putting a new system in place for 2023.

However, she's still stung by Trudeau's most recent comments.

"This was a giant betrayal and it breaks my heart."

Trudeau's 'mind made up all along'

While she remained optimistic there is a way forward, other members of the parliamentary committee said Trudeau's willingness to revisit the issue is hollow.

"He was never sincere about considering proportional representation," said Conservative Scott Reid, adding it was evident Trudeau had his "mind made up all along."

Ignoring the voices of Canadians is a slippery slope, Cullen cautioned in response to the prime minister's latest comments.

"I was stunned. There's a tone of arrogance in there," he said.

"He's entitled to his opinion but not his own facts, because the facts were clear."

Both Cullen and Reid agreed with May that a referendum would send a clear message from Canadians to Parliament Hill.

"Whether [electoral reform] would be harmful or not surely is better answered by Canadians themselves in a referendum," Reid said.

While Trudeau said he was open to feedback, he emphasized the topic wouldn't be looked at until after the next election.