David Raymond Amos Round 3: Re The Public Session on the evening of February 7th and my assistance to Roger Richard and Gerald Bourque as Intervenors in Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application

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Subject: RE: Re The Public Session on the evening of February 7th and
my assistance to Roger Richard and Gerald Bourque as Intervenors in
Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-rate-hearings-efficiency-nb-baseboard-heating-1.4532634

War on baseboard heating has eased since NB Power took over Efficiency NB

The utility maintains it has preserved the goals of the conservation organization it absorbed in 2015

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 13, 2018 7:48 AM AT |

NB Power has been criticized for not living up to the conservation standards held by Efficiency NB. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

Three years after absorbing the independent conservation agency Efficiency NB, NB Power insists it has been preserving the goals of the former organization

But critics have been challenging that claim at the ongoing rate hearing for the utility in Saint John.

"I don't think energy efficiency is a top priority for NB Power," said Daniel Leblanc, a smart meter opponent, during questioning about the utility's conservation programs on Monday.

"NB Power has many different priorities. Efficiency NB had one."

NB Power's smart meter plan labelled a 'money loser' during EUB grilling

Opting out smart meter program could cost NB Power customers

NB Power does offer several efficiency grants and incentives similar to those provided by the old Efficiency NB and is seeking approval to add more in April.

But one stark difference that has emerged over the past week is that NB Power's view of electric baseboard heating is significantly less hostile than Efficiency NB's used to be. And the former organization's aggressive effort to encourage consumers to switch away from electric heat has not survived the transition.

"That (Efficiency NB) mandate is a little bit different than ours," said Darren Murphy, NB Power's senior vice-president and chief financial officer, on Friday during questioning by Enbridge Gas lawyer Jeffery Callaghan about why the utility is not pursuing the same "off baseboard" policy long championed by Efficiency NB.

Enbridge Gas New Brunswick lawyer Jeffery Callaghan questions NB Power about why it abandoned Efficiency NB's fight against baseboard electric heaters. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

"Electric heat contributes really valuable revenue most of the months of the year. The notion of eliminating the electric heat altogether has the implications of reducing revenue all year long."

War on baseboard

That has been causing some frustration at the hearing among those who believe the utility has been subtly tailoring old Efficiency NB conservation programs to serve its own well being, not necessarily the public's.

Utility executives have made it clear they favour programs to push electric heat use to off-peak hours instead of having customers abandon electric heat altogether. Consequently, there are no longer grants for those who switch to other fuels.

Widespread electric baseboard heating among New Brunswick residential customers is the largest contributor to the huge swings in demand for electricity that causes NB Power a number of problems.
It's required to maintain a fleet of generators capable of servicing wintertime peak heating demand, even though some plants are expensive to operate and only needed a few weeks every year.

NB Power vice-president Darren Murphy explains the utility's decision not to continue Efficiency NB's long fight against baseboard electric heating. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

And since inefficient fossil-fuelled generators are typically used to meet the peak winter demand, baseboard heating also drives up the utility's greenhouse gas emissions.

Efficiency NB offered generous grants — up to $10,000 — for electric baseboard customers to install non-electric central heating systems. It was a move endorsed by the former Liberal government of Shawn Graham and its then energy minister Jack Keir.

"Electricity generation is the single largest source of greenhouse gas emissions in New Brunswick, and electric baseboard heating systems are the least efficient and least environmentally friendly heating option," said Keir back in 2008.

In 2011, an energy commission appointed by the former Progressive Conservative government of David Alward went further, calling for a ban on electric baseboard heating in new construction.

Efficiency New Brunswick folded into NB Power

NB Power wants customers to improve consumption habits

But since the Gallant government turned Efficiency NB over to NB Power to operate in 2015, the hostility to electric baseboard heating has softened considerably.

"We have got very cost effective generation," said Murphy.

"It's very, very specific times in the winter time when that isn't the case. The objectives of Efficiency New Brunswick clearly wasn't a mandate that said, 'You know, how do I balance those things.'"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearings-nb-power-smart-meters-1.4529640

Opting out smart meter program could cost NB Power customers

Power customers in British Columbia, Quebec have faced fees for refusing the installation of smart meters

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 10, 2018 8:00 AM AT |

NB Power Senior VP Operations Lori Clark speaks during the EUB hearings Friday in Saint John. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

NB Power customers who do not want a smart meter installed on their home could be facing a stiff fee for that decision, but so far the utility is not saying how much it might be.

"It will be based on the principles of cost causation, but we have not gotten into the detail of what that fee would be at this point," said NB Power Senior Vice President of Operations Lori Clark at Energy and Utilities Board hearings on Friday.

NB Power's smart meter plan labelled a 'money loser' during EUB grilling

NB Power's smart meter program among plans under microscope at EUB hearing

In other jurisdictions that have already adopted smart meters, customers not wanting to participate have faced hundreds of dollars in extra charges.

Thousands of pages of evidence on a number of issues, including smart meters, have been submitted for the 12-day hearing.

In British Columbia, power customers are charged a meter reading fee of $32.40 per month if they refuse a smart meter, or $20 per month if they accept a smart meter but insist its radio transmitter be turned off. That's a cost of between $240 and $388.80 per year for customers to opt out.

In Quebec, smart meters were installed beginning in 2012. Customers who refused the devices were initially charged $98 to opt out plus a meter reading fee of $17 per month. That was eventually cut by Quebec's energy board in 2014 to a $15 refusal fee and a $5 per month meter reading surcharge.
NB Power said it may be a year or more before it settles on its own fee.

"The opt out policy will be developed and implemented as part of the roll out. It will be one of the last things we do," said Clark.

Customers need to be on board

NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board seeking permission to spend $122.7 million to install 350,000 smart meters province wide.

Smart meter opponent Roger Richard, right, leads a group worried about human health problems caused by long term exposure to the devices. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

The meters are capable of transmitting consumption data of customers back to NB Power in real time, which the utility said will allow for a number of innovations in pricing and service.

The meters require near universal adoption by customers to maximize their financial benefit — like eliminating more than $20 million a year NB Power currently spends to read meters manually. The utility has said the switch will not succeed if too many customers opt out.

"We certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size without having the customer with us," said Clark.

On Thursday, Kent County resident Daniel LeBlanc, who along with Roger Richard, is opposing the introduction of smart meters for health reasons, predicted a cool reception for the technology in many parts of the province.

"If one were to ask most of the people in the rural areas, I'm not sure you would get a lot of takers for this infrastructure," said LeBlanc, who is concerned with the long-term effect microwave frequencies used by the meters to transmit data may have on human health.

That issue is before the EUB next week.

Haven't tested the waters

NB Power acknowledged it has not measured public opinion on adopting smart meters but is confident it can convince customers it is a good idea for them and the utility.

"People don't understand what the smart meter is," said Clark. "We need to educate our customers first to allow them to make an informed decision so that will be part of the roll out plan."

Clark noted that smart meters, helped by stiff opting out penalties, were eventually accepted by 98 per cent of customers in British Columbia and by 97.4 per cent of customers in Quebec.

"We will check and adjust along the way if there are issues with customer uptake," said Clark.

"This is very similar to what has been done in other jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges."

Ask yourselves why Dave Coon and his buddies did not intervene this time

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

Comments - Public Session - Carl Duivenvoorden 02/02/2018

From: Carl Duivenvoorden
To: NBEUB/CESPNB
Subject: Submission - Smart Meter hearings
Date: Friday, February 2, 2018 4:25:04 PM

2 February 2018
New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
P.O. Box 5001
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
Saint John, NB E2L 4Y9

Dear Board Members:

I’m writing to express support for the adoption and installation of smart power meters across New
Brunswick, for two main reasons: 1) to help New Brunswickers become energy-literate and learn how they can save on their energy bills; and 2) to enable and facilitate the adoption of future renewable energy and smart grid opportunities that will reinforce savings and help reduce emissions.

Energy literacy and savings

In 2009, Bob Gilligan, Vice President of Transmission and Distribution for GE Energy, famously said
“Today, most consumers live in a black hole when it comes to information about their energy consumption and costs.”

Unfortunately, I fear that remains largely true today. When it comes to power consumption, most people do not know the difference between a light bulb, a television and a baseboard heater. The reason? The only feedback we get is a power bill that arrives a month later, lumps all consumption together and focuses on dollars rather than kilowatt hours. It’s pretty difficult to take ownership of our energy reality and modify our consumption when we don’t have the tools to do so.

On the other hand, real-time or near to real-time feedback about our power consumption can be a
powerful tool for energy literacy and positive change. A number of years ago, I installed a Power Cost Monitor offered by Blueline Innovations at my home. One component strapped onto my power meter and registered our consumption in real-time. It sent this wirelessly to the other component, perched on the windowsill, which displayed it. The result? We very quickly learned our baseline power consumption, and saw how it fluctuated.

Around the same time, I got a WattsUp power meter and measured the power consumption of plug loads in my home. The result? We very quickly learned what items in our home consumed a little and what items consumed a lot. Both of the above tools improved our energy literacy, and gave us the information we needed to save.

True, smart meters don’t go quite that far – but they will offer consumers the ability to better monitor and learn more about their power consumption, thus building energy literacy. Energy literate consumers will be better equipped to understand and adapt to a changing energy reality as our world transitions from fossil fuels to renewables. Energy literate consumers will be more empowered to embrace energy efficiency and other energy and environmental solutions.

Gateway technology

To me, the far greater promise of smart meters lies in all the possibilities they enable: in linking energy demand, energy supply and energy prices; in managing grid loads; and in facilitating future technology. Power peaks are an unfortunate reality of our grid, and winter peaks tend to be the benchmark for how much total generating capacity we need. But even though a kilowatt hour of power at 8 AM in January is much more expensive to supply than a kilowatt hour at 2 PM in May, our current meter technology has no way of differentiating.

The result: consumers have zero incentive to reduce energy consumption during peak periods, and it may reasonably be expected that winter peaks will continue to rise largely independent of power prices. Higher peaks will in turn hasten the need for new generating capacity, which can be enormously expensive – and peaker plants tend to be even more expensive because sit idle much of the year. Smart meters, on the other hand, offer the possibility of better matching energy supply and demand and improving grid stability because they enable time-of-day pricing, where power rates at different times of the day or year better reflect the actual cost of supplying that power. Time-of-day pricing would give consumers a financial incentive to shift their time-insensitive power consumption out of peak periods. This would save them money, but, equally important, would fulfill a larger policy goal of deferring the need for new power generation or increased power imports.

As a NB homeowner, here’s how I believe time-of-day would impact me. I would do laundry in off-peak hours; my present washer already has a one-button process for delayed starting. I recently purchased a plug in hybrid electric vehicle, and I would charge it primarily during off peak hours; it already has a builtin system that just requires me to set it. I would make sure my hot water tank were big enough to meet a day’s needs for my family, and then have an electrician install a timer on it so it would reheat during offpeak hours. If I heated with baseboard heaters, I would install a thermal storage unit (not new technology; they’ve been in use for years in Nova Scotia and elsewhere) that would take some of my heating load out of the morning peak.

And as time went on, no doubt I would think of other ways to consume less during peak hours. Why?
Because I’d have a financial incentive. And if my utility didn’t have to worry about supplying a peak load every morning, it probably could defer new power generation projects for years – which would help keep my power rates lower too, and likely help reduce emissions.

I realize time-of-day rates have not yet been proposed for NB – but they are not even available to us as a policy option unless we install smart meters.

I know that time-of-day pricing has yielded less-than-expected results in other jurisdictions. That leads me to believe two things: 1) the price differential is probably not large enough to produce habit change; and 2) energy illiteracy is a tough barrier to overcome. Yet I am convinced price signals will yield the desired load shift over time; perhaps the greatest evidence of this lies in gasoline pricing, where a fraction of a penny difference per litre – a negligible amount for the average fill-up – will lead consumers to change where they buy gas. And perhaps we should take inspiration from Texas, where some energy suppliers offer power for free after hours and on weekends, to help lower their peaks.

Perhaps, also, we should take note of what is happening elsewhere in the world. According to NS
Power’s website, there are more than 65 million smart meters installed in the US and 11 million in
Canada, serving 70% of Canadians. The European Union aims to replace at least 80% of its power
meters with smart meters by 2020. All this would suggest we are already behind a large pack, and it’s
time for NB to get on board too.

I appreciate that it would be irresponsible to ignore financial considerations in the installation of smart meters, and I expect that this review process will be guided by due diligence. Yet I’d suggest that sometimes costs we are inclined to view as expenses might better be viewed as investments, and this might be one such instance. That’s even more critical in the face of our global climate crisis, which threatens to challenge many of our financial paradigms.

I hope these comments will be of value in your deliberations, and would welcome the opportunity for
follow up.

Yours sincerely,
Carl Duivenvoorden
Speaker - Writer - Sustainability Consultant
110 Mazerolle Settlement Road
Upper Kingsclear, NB, Canada E3E 1V5
Tel (506) 363 8117; (506) 476 9629 cell

Internet www.changeyourcorner.com

Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/FollowCarl

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"Life cycle assessment, the one sure measure of sustainability",
www.changeyourcorner.com/articles/153.php

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"You might want to rethink blaming China for climate change",
http://bit.ly/2hww40Z

"Maybe you can't change the whole world, but you can change your corner of it.
And when you change your corner of the world, you actually change the world."
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-surveys-customers-on-energy-use-1.1348301

NB Power surveys customers on energy use

Utility hopes to launch a smart grid pilot project within a year

CBC News · Posted: Jun 03, 2013 8:01 AM AT

NB Power is surveying its customers to find out more about their energy use policies. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian Press)

NB Power is surveying 22,000 households across the province asking them about their power use patterns as it prepares to make the transition to a new smart grid.

Smart grids offer customers more control over how they use electricity. A smart grid system would give customers incentives to use power at non-peak times, such as at night, when there is less demand.

So NB Power will be asking its customers questions, such as what kind of heating they use, the age of their appliances, whether they have air conditioning or if they have high-speed internet.

"It's to get a better handle on how energy is used and to kind of try to work with our customers to see how we can move some of their energy usage to off-peak times," said Brent Staeben, an official with the utility.

Staeben said the new smart grid will help cut back on costs and lessen the environmental impact by improving efficiency and decreasing fluctuations during peak hours.

He said that during peak times NB Power has to turn to fossil fuel-burning generators.

Staeben said NB Power would like to have a pilot project up and running in the next year.

The NB Power official said the survey will be useful because people are using more electricity but in different ways.

"It's being made up in devices really, in computers and tablets and BlackBerrys and phones and things like that and the charging of them all the time," he said.

"So while we may be more energy efficient, in some of the other appliances that we're purchasing, you know we're also adding to our load as we add more devices to our life."

Green Party Leader David Coon said it’s important for NB Power to get a better understanding of the energy consumption patterns of its customers.

But he said this survey fits into a broader issue of understanding the future power needs of the utility. The Green Party leader said he wants more information on the longer term goal.

"The problem is we are operating in the dark right now. NB Power hasn’t released its plan for what they want to do in the future, their integrated resource plan," he said.

"It is fundamentally important, it lays out what they intend to do in terms of influencing supply and demand of electricity over the coming years."

Smart grid skepticism

Some are skeptical about the need to move toward a smart grid.

Daniel Leblanc, a Moncton environmentalist, said the province doesn't need new gadgets.

"You first have to have smart policies to fill the grid in New Brunswick with renewable energy before you begin this theoretical exercise of saving the environment with smart grid technology," he said.

New Brunswick and Siemens Canada announced an agreement in July 2012 that would see the global technology company create a 10-year energy road map for the province.

Energy Minister Craig Leonard’s 2011 energy plan called for the use of smart grid technology.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-eub-hearing-smart-meters-1.4525673

NB Power's smart meter plan labelled a 'money loser' during EUB grilling

The utility estimated the total savings would fall short of the $122.7M price tag

Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Feb 08, 2018 6:00 AM AT |

NB Power executives faced tough questions on its smart meters project Wednesday in Saint John. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

A trio of NB Power executives were under pressure Wednesday to justify why the utility wants to invest more than $100 million to install smart meters with customers when its own accounting shows savings from the change will be less than the cost to implement it.

"Those projected costs are $122.7 million and the projected benefits are $121.4 million. Is that correct?" asked Christopher Stewart, a lawyer for J.D. Irving Ltd. during the opening day of NB Power's annual rate hearing.

"Yes. That's the life cycle costs of the project and the life cycle benefits of the project," responded NB Power senior vice president of operations Lori Clark.

"That's negative $1.3 million," observed Stewart. "It's a money loser."

NB Power's smart meter program among plans under microscope at EUB hearing

Clark, along with two other NB Power senior vice presidents, Keith Cronkhite and Darren Murphy, fielded initial questions about the utility's smart meter plans in front of the Energy and Utilities Board as part of a 12-day review of a number of issues.

Lori Clark, NB Power's vice president of operations, fielded questions about the cost and benefits of the smart meters plan. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

The board has the power to approve or reject NB Power projects that cost more than $50 million, including the smart meter project.

Greater benefits expected

The three vice presidents argued that smart meters are needed as a foundation for NB Power to implement a number of other modernization plans and suggested total financial benefits will likely be greater than the analysis it prepared for the hearing seemed to show.

The meters will connect directly to the utility's computers and track consumption in real time. That will open up opportunities to establish high and low rates during the day to try and steer electricity consumption to off-peak hours.

The meters also allow for homeowners to install their own generation, like solar panels, or invest in large battery storage units to load up on low-cost nighttime power and sell what they don't need back to the utility.

Smart meters became the focus on the first day of the annual rate hearing. (Ryan Pilon/CBC)

NB Power said the meters, and an aggressive new package of consumer energy conservation
initiatives, will help it soften expensive wintertime consumption peaks on its system and is the key to lowering costs and avoiding the construction of new power plants — advantages it did not fully detail in its proposal.

"We did not take into account all of the potential upside benefits. We were very conservative in the calculation of our benefits," said Clark. "There are a number of projects that are enabled by our Advanced Metering Infrastructure that haven't been identified in the business case."

Stewart responded: "You say you've taken a conservative approach but its the approach you've chosen to bring forward."

Christopher Stewart, a lawyer for J.D. Irving Ltd., described the smart meter plan as a "money loser." (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)

Recent complaints

Clark said the multiple recent complaints the utility has received from people surprised by the size of their January power bills show the value of smart meter.

But she assured Gerald Bourque, leader of New Brunswick's fledgling KISS N.B. Political Party and a hearing participant, that no one who objects to the device will be made to take one.

"When we are dealing with high bill complaints like we have been this last month, customers would actually be able to see their usage throughout the month and not be subject to receiving a final bill at the end of the month and being surprised by their consumption," she said.

"We will have an opt out policy."

Whether the meters pay for themselves or not, it is important the board not judge the proposal to buy them on that issue alone, Murphy said.

"It's more than just economics," he said. "It's about preparing for that future and modernizing the infrastructure."

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Subject: Re The Public Session on the evening of February 7th and my
assistance to Roger Richard and Gerald Bourque as Intervenors in
Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef

Energy & Utilities Board | Commission de l’énergie et des services
publics du N.-B.
15 Market Square, Suite 1400
Saint John, NB E2L 4Y9
506-643-7324 (direct)
506-658-2504 (reception)

Good Morning Ms. Mitchell

Pursuant to our conversation on Friday and seeing the other
communications from several other stakeholders and municipalities with
regards to the public session I I have reconsidered and thought it was
not fair to you to provide the documents I wished to be filed in the
375 Matter at the last minute.

Following the text of this message are true copies of an email from
Mr. Furey of NB Power dated January 31st and two emails from Wanda
Harrison,a VP of the top lawyer for NP Power and the lawyer Peter
Hyslop a former Public Intervenor acknowledging my emails before the
last motion hearing in the 357 Matter. Need I say that I was greatly
offended on October 31st when the former chairman of the NBEUB Mr
Gorman falsely claimed in the 375 Matter that my conduct during the
hearing of a motion in Matter 357 was confrontational and that my
arguments lacked any connection to the issues before the Board then
shut of the recording system so that my response could not be dully
recorded on the transcript?

I was also offended by the lack of due process in that the Board
failed to ask any of the other Intervenors their opinion of NB Power's
malevolent wish to have me barred from the hearings particularly in
light of the words of the lawyer Mr. Furey found within his January
31st email

"NB Power believes that would be a violation of principles of natural
justice related to the right to be heard."

Following the aforementioned emails are certain quotes from sourced
from the transcript of the Hearing on October 31st that support my
reasoning and actions. At the bottom of this email but before a true
copy of your email to me on February 2nd, are all the words I said at
the aforesaid hearing.

I have sent this email as soon as I could so this morning for you
to file today if you wish. I expect to be on the road shortly. However
several more emails will follow this one with regards to the Public
Session and my concerns about the 375 and other matters as soon as I
can compose them. I will give you a call to discuss this email as
soon as I am near a telephone.

In nutshell rather than attach all the files to this email I have
composed a list of documents from your records of the 336 and 357
Matters that I would like to be filed in the 375 Matter in their
entirety. It is my hope that it will be an easy task for you to
accomplish on no doubt very busy days before the hearing begins.

Thank You and Best of Regards
David Raymond Amos
902 800 0369

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De: "Furey, John" <JFurey@nbpower.com>

Objet: RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
Notice of Motion From NCFS

Date: 31 janvier 2018 14:40:02 UTC−4

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<Chris_R_31@hotmail.com>, "Black, Heather (OAG/CPG)"
<Heather.Black@gnb.ca>, NBP Regulatory <NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>,
"KissPartyofNB@gmail.com" <KissPartyofNB@gmail.com>,
"rrichard@nb.aibn.com" <rrichard@nb.aibn.com>, "Sollows, David
(ERD/DER)" <David.Sollows@gnb.ca>, "Gilles.volpe@enbridge.com"
<Gilles.volpe@enbridge.com>, "Paul.Volpe@enbridge.com"
<Paul.Volpe@enbridge.com>, "dave.lavigne@enbridge.com"
<dave.lavigne@enbridge.com>, Len Hoyt <Len.Hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com"
<jeffery.callaghan@mcinnescooper.com>, "rzarumba@ceadvisors.com"
<rzarumba@ceadvisors.com>, "bdavis@ceadvisors.com"
<bdavis@ceadvisors.com>, "toneill@ceadvisors.com"
<toneill@ceadvisors.com>, "hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com"
<hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com>, "cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com"
<cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com>, "Harrison, Wanda"
<WHarrison@nbpower.com>, "Russell, Stephen" <SRussell@nbpower.com>,
"Connelly Bosse, Natacha" <NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com>, "Lawton, John"
<John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>, "Desmond, Ellen" <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>,
"Dickie, Michael" <Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>, "Young, Dave"
<Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>, NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>,
"twoolf@synapse-energy.com" <twoolf@synapse-energy.com>,
"ktakahashi@synapse-energy.com" <ktakahashi@synapse-energy.com>,
"anapoleon@synapse-energy.com" <anapoleon@synapse-energy.com>,
"ahopkins@synapse-energy.com" <ahopkins@synapse-energy.com>,
"jmarusiak@synapse-energy.com" <jmarusiak@synapse-energy.com>,
"sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com" <sussexsharingclub@nb.aibn.com>,
"jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com" <jeff.garrett@sjenergy.com>,
"dan.dionne@perth-andover.com" <dan.dionne@perth-andover.com>,
"pierreroy@edmundston.ca" <pierreroy@edmundston.ca>,
"ray.robinson@sjenergy.com" <ray.robinson@sjenergy.com>,
"marta.kelly@sjenergy.com" <marta.kelly@sjenergy.com>,
"sstoll@airdberlis.com" <sstoll@airdberlis.com>,
"pzarnett@bdrenergy.com" <pzarnett@bdrenergy.com>
Cc: "rdk@indecon.com" <rdk@indecon.com>, "avitulli@indecon.com"
<avitulli@indecon.com>, "efinamore@valutechsolutions.com"
<efinamore@valutechsolutions.com>

Dear Ms. Mitchell,

NB Power requests that the Board decline to schedule a Motion’s Day
hearing with respect to the Motion of NCFS for interim relief.

This request has two bases. First, NB Power submits that the
authority of the Board to make an interim Order is necessarily linked
to the final disposition by the Board of the matter in issue. In this
case, an interim decision of a substantive nature, as is requested by
NCFS, would remain effective only until the Board issues a final
decision following completion of the Hearing scheduled to commence on
February 7, 2018. There is simply no value in the Board rendering
interim decisions on the matters raised by NCFS in circumstances in
which the Hearing is scheduled to commence in one week’s time. NB
Power believes that NCFS is in fact requesting a final decision on
these matters, in advance of the Hearing. NB Power believes that
would be a violation of principles of natural justice related to the
right to be heard.

In any circumstance, NB Power believes that if the Board is inclined
to hear a Motion of this nature it should be addressed as a
preliminary matter on the first day of the Hearing.

Regards,

John

John G. Furey
Senior Legal Counsel
New Brunswick Power Corporation
P.O. Box 2000
515 King Street
Fredericton, N.B.
E3B 4X1
Direct Line - 506-458-6970
Facsimile - 506-458-4319
JFurey@nbpower.com

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Harrison, Wanda" <WHarrison@nbpower.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 23:42:49 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: EXT - Perhaps Mr Gorman QC of the EUB and
the other lawyers will remember me now EH Ricky Doucet?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I will be out of the office until Monday, October 2nd . I will be
periodically checking emails.

Thank you

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter Hyslop <gphlaw@nb.aibn.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 08:29:26 -0300
Subject: RE: Perhaps Mr Gorman QC of the EUB and the other lawyers
will remember me now EH Ricky Doucet?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Please remove gphlaw@nb.aibn.com and gphlaw2@nb.aibn.com from your mailing list.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:43 PM
To: rgorman@nbeub.ca; Jack.Keir; sstoll@airdberlis.com; David.Coon;
rick.doucet; gphlaw@nb.aibn.com; jfurey@nbpower.com;
Dave.Young@nbeub.ca; John.Lawton@nbeub.ca; Robert. Jones; jonesr;
cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com; wharrison@nbpower.com;
ecdesmond@nbeub.ca; serge.rousselle; denis.landry2; heather.black
Cc: David Amos; len.hoyt; briangallant10; brian.gallant; blaine.higgs;
Dominic.Cardy; kelly
Subject: Perhaps Mr Gorman QC of the EUB and the other lawyers will
remember me now EH Ricky Doucet?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearing-nb-power-rate-design-smart-meters-1.4305685EUB

punts rate hearing as NB Power studies $122M smart meter plan

EUB agrees to suspend hearing so it can deal first with NB Power's
proposed $122M purchase of smart meters
By Robert Jones, Posted: Sep 26, 2017 6:00 AM AT

"The Board finds that the AMI (Advanced Metering Infrastructure)
application should precede the rate design hearing and therefore it is
in the public interest to grant an adjournment," ruled EUB chairman
Raymond Gorman in a brief hearing last week."

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Doucet, Rick (LEG)" <Rick.Doucet@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:07:58 +0000
Subject: RE: Final Docs
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Will get right on this.
Always look forward to your brilliant thoughts.
R

Hon.Rick Doucet
Legislative member for Charlotte-the isles
28 Mt.Pleasant Rd.
St.George, N.B. E5C 3K4

Phone / Téléphone : 506-755-4200
Fax / Télécopieur : 506-755-4207
E-mail / Courriel : rick.doucet@gnb.ca

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:21 AM
To: rgorman@nbeub.ca ; tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com ;
info@jackkeir.ca ; cjohnston@nbeub.ca ; edward.mclean@gmail.com ;
wmcgraw@nbeub.ca ; dbarnett@nbeub.ca ; stoner@nbeub.ca ;
radford1@nbnet.nb.ca ; cmorrison@nbeub.ca ; mcke2020@rogers.com
Cc: board@gov.ns.ca ; dhilloks@gov.ns.ca ; uarb.board@gov.ns.ca ;
mrodgerson@irac.pe.ca ; jbroderick@irac.pe.ca ; bmckenna@irac.pe.ca ;
robert.keating@state.ma.us ; paul.hibbard@state.ma.us ;
tim.woolf@state.ma.us ; laura.olton@state.ma.us
Subject: I heard Tom Young yipping about the price gas on the radio
this afternoon ask the Yankee why I died laughing

Have a look at the email he got last week then you tell me whose side
is he on EH Jacky Boy Keir?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Subject: The NDP in the "Place to Be" still has nothing to say or
write to me again during this election EH Pat Yvon?
To: dave_j_hackett@hotmail.com, alicefinnamore@ndp.ca,
cmckendy@nbnet.nb.ca, andrewgraham@ndp.ca, robmoir@ndp.ca,
jondcl@nbnet.nb.ca, jcbourqu@nbnet.nb.ca, gagnonjn@rogers.com,
ddavey@isn.net, b.pollard@islandtelecom.com, gladgardens@eastlink.ca,
louiselorefice@ndp.ca, mahon.austen@ns.sympatico.ca
Cc: pnphanratty@hotmail.com, yvongodin@ndp.ca

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Subject: I heard Ms. Klein was going to talk to Andrew Kyrstal on the
radio today perhaps somebody should study this email ASAP EH?
To: keisenstein@apbspeakers.com, debra@naomiklein.org,
andrew.krystal@atlanticradio.rogers.com, Dan Fitzgerald
<danf@danf.net>, georgebarron@ndp.ca, gladgardens@eastlink.ca,
mahon.austen@ns.sympatico.ca
Cc: webo@xplornet.com, "thibault. r" <thibault.r@parl.gc.ca>, "savage.
m" <savage.m@parl.gc.ca>

Before you doubt my integrity or opt to make fun of me as Andrew
Kyrstal did the last time I ran for a seat in Parliament perhaps you
should at least look at this webpage or download some of my documents.

http://qslspolitics.blogspot.com/2008/04/david-amos-nb-nwo-whistleblower-part-3.html

If you truly care about the war in Iraq perhaps you should read these
files first. then the email I sent to Harper last night

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3024834/FBI

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2619608/Upper-Canadians

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/Integrity-Yea-Right

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3870294/senators-obama-and-mccain-and-others

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3870274/politicians

September 25, 2008
7:00 p.m.
Atlantic Festival Theatre
Acadia University
Wolfville, Nova Scotia

September 26, 2008
7:00 p.m.
Ondaatje Hall, Scotiabank Auditorium
Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
Dalhousie University

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Subject: Fwd: For the record Mr Harper I use the proof of the RCMP
Commissioner's efforts to play dumb to prove that the rest of your
cohorts get my emails.
To: michel.lalande@bell.ca, agostino.russo@bell.ca,
mirko.bibic@bell.ca, Diane.Valade@bell.ca

From: <martine.turcotte@bell.ca>
Date: 2008/9/11
Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: For the record Mr Harper I use the

proof of the RCMP Commissioner's efforts to play dumb to prove that
the rest of your cohorts get my emails.

To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

Please note that I will be on holidays until October 6, 2008.
Veuillez noter que je serai en vacances jusqu'au 6 octobre 2008.

In my absence you may contact the following people for help. En mon
absence vous pouvez contacter les personnes suivantes:

Michel Lalande (michel.lalande@bell.ca; 514-391-8386)
Ago Russo (agostino.russo@bell.ca; 416-353-4138)
Mirko Bibic (mirko.bibic@bell.ca; 613-785-0615)
Diane Valade, my assistant (514-870-4638)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:45:44 -0300
Subject: For the record Mr Harper I use the proof of the RCMP
Commissioner's efforts to play dumb to prove that the rest of your
cohorts get my emails.
To: Harper.S@parl.gc.ca, ted.tax@justice.gc.ca, moore.r@parl.gc.ca,
dions1@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca, ndpnpd@nbnet.nb.ca,
Casey.B@parl.gc.ca, checkup@cbc.ca, zed.p@parl.gc.ca,
layton.j@parl.gc.ca, duffy@ctv.ca, w-five@ctv.ca, acampbell@ctv.ca,
tomp.young@atlanticradio.rogers.com, kelly.lamrock@gnb.ca,
thompson.g@parl.gc.ca, "t.j.burke@gnb.ca" <t.j.burke@gnb.ca>,
"wally.stiles@gnb.ca" <wally.stiles@gnb.ca>, MLA@carlurquhart.com,
ben.clements@massmail.state.ma.us, pcellucci@mccarter.com
Cc: webo@xplornet.com, danf@danf.net, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
injusticecoalition@hotmail.com, day.s@parl.gc.ca,
danny.copp@fredericton.ca, dan.bussieres@gnb.ca, zorroboy@live.com,
william.corbett@elections.ca, william.elliott@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
claude.richer@rcmp-grc.gc.ca, martine.turcotte@bell.ca,
Daniel.Conley@massmail.state.ma.us, Stoffer.P@parl.gc.ca,
McDonough.A@parl.gc.ca, Godin.Y@parl.gc.ca, smurphy@ctv.ca,
shawn.graham@gnb.ca, alltrue@nl.rogers.com, Matthews.B@parl.gc.ca,
bmosher@mosherchedore.ca, ATTYSIMS@aol.com, rosent@math.toronto.edu,
jeff.mockler@gnb.ca, newsonline@bbc.co.uk, Robert.Creedon@state.ma.us,
Brian.A.Joyce@state.ma.us, National@cbc.ca, porcupine007@gmail.com,
orakwa@paulcomm.ca, mary.chaput@psepc-sppcc.gc.ca

Well Mr. Harper I waited all day while that French loser Dion was in the
"Place to Be" to see if he wanted to make deal and help me impeach you. It
appears that merely saying my name is too much for Dion to do. As usual I
was ignored by the liberals but as you well know some ordinary folks whom
you seek another mandate from got back to me and found a chuckle or two in
the nonsense of it all. I will lay odds I can make more people laugh than
you can. People wanna see a circus so ya give them a circus. Maybe with a
little luck somebody who laughs too much will say my name at the wrong place
and time. I bet even nasty Mike Duffy and Rex Murphy had a chuckle or two
today in spite of themselves. i heard Jacky Boy Layton yapping alot today
about his stuff on Youtube while the CBC tortured him about Dizzy Lizzy
May. so I figured I might as well point to my own too and the recent one
made about me so you can all have a good laugh at my expense. Paul zed and
the Irvings ain't laughing too hard though EH?

10/31/2017 Pre-Hearing / Conférence préalable à l'audience

IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for
approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing
April 1, 2018.

held at the Delta Hotel Saint John, New Brunswick, on October 31, 2017.

Page 24

"CHAIRMAN: So before I get to the schedule, are there any other
matters that need to be dealt with prior to schedule? Mr. Furey?

MR. FUREY: The only other issue -- we don't have to deal with it now,
Mr. Chair -- is that we did file as well yesterday -- I filed later in
the afternoon a draft proposed confidentiality undertaking for this
proceeding, and the parties may not have had a full opportunity to
review it, but I pointed out the only changes that have been made from
that that was approved in Matter 336. And so if we were able to,
before the end of the day, have an understanding as to whether parties
accept that or if there is any objection to the changes that would be
helpful."

Page 54

"CHAIRMAN: Okay. With respect to the public day or days, it is the
intention of the Board to do this part of the session. We have had
some suggestions from many of the participants that it would be very
useful to hear from the public perhaps not just on the day of -- on a
hearing day but perhaps in advance, and we are currently looking at
whether or not we may be able to do one or more than one, and that
seems to be the week that works the best. So we will simply advise
when it is. I know that the applicant, for example, always wants to
be present and it may or may not work out for certain people within
the organization that feel it's important for them to be there, but
this is the week that we will be scheduling either one or two
sessions.
And at this point in time I'm not sure where it will be. I can tell
you that it will not be in Saint John. It will be somewhere else in
the province for sure."

Page 85

"CHAIRMAN: All right. I will now give the decision of the Board on
this matter.
Mr. Amos seeks intervenor status in Matter 375. NB Power objects to
his intervention claiming his conduct during the hearing of a motion
in Matter 357 was confrontational and that his arguments lacked any
connection to the issues before the Board. The Board agrees with that
assessment.
In the present matter, Mr. Amos was given ample opportunity to put
forward a case that would support a respectful and responsible
intervention. He failed to do so, rolling forward issues raised in
Matter 357 and not addressing the issue before us today.
Mr. Amos states that the interests he would bring before the Board
are those raised by Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard. The Board is
satisfied that those two intervenors can adequately represent those
issues. In addition, those issues will undoubtedly be addressed by
the Public Intervenor and others.
The Board finds on a balance of probability that Mr. Amos will not
participate in this matter in a respectful and responsible manner. As
a result, the Board will exercise its discretion and refuse intervenor
status to Mr. Amos. Intervention is encouraged but it must be
responsible.
Mr. Amos may participate in the public session which date will be
announced shortly. But again he is reminded that any presentation
must be done in a respectful and responsible manner.
Finally, Mr. Amos had indicated that he wished to assist his two
colleagues that are sitting with him today. And certainly the Board
has no issue with that at all. But Mr. Amos will have no status at
the hearing in terms of cross-examination or making any argument.
So that is the decision of this Panel with respect to the status of Mr. Amos.
Are there any other issues to deal with today? There being no other
issues, then we will adjourn."

Matter No. 0336

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=521

Transcripts
Date

01/24/2017 Public Session

12/06/2016 Motions Day

Other Relevant Documents

Submission for Public session - David Thompson presentation -
NB Power Rate Increase April 1 2017

NB Power Letter - Public Interest Hearing resolution 01/13/2017

Notice of Motion - Gregory Hickey - NBP(GH) IR-22 01/10/2017

Greg Hickey Interrogatory to NB Power - NBP(GH) IR-21 12/12/2016
Attachment to Greg Hickey Interrogatory to NB Power NBP(GH)
IR-21 - LIREPP Subsidy Spreadsheet Comments 12/12/2016

Attachment to Greg Hickey Interrogatory to NB Power NBP(GH)
IR-21 - NB Pwr LIREPP PPA Subsidy Costs (If you have
difficulty opening this file, please contact the Board at
(506) 658-2504 or by email at general@nbeub.ca. / Si vous
avez de la difficulté à ouvrir ce fichier, veuillez
communiquer avec la Commission au (506) 658-2504 ou par
courriel à general@cespnb.ca) 12/12/2016

Greg Hickey Interrogatory to NB Power - NBP(GH) IR-22 12/12/2016

Attachment to Greg Hickey Round 2 Interrogatory to NB Power
- NBP(GH) IR-22 - NB Gov't Environment Dept.; Twin Rivers
Paper Facility Profile 12/12/2016

Attachment to Greg Hickey Round 2 Interrogatory to NB Power
- NBP(GH) IR-22 - Twin Rivers mill description 12/12/2016

Greg Hickey Round 2 Interrogatory to NB Power - NBP(GH)
IR-23 12/12/2016

Attachment to Greg Hickey Round 2 Interrogatory to NB Power
- NBP(GH) IR-23 - Twin Rivers mill description

Notice of Motion - Gregory Hickey - NBP(GH) IR-18 12/02/2016

Attachment to Notice of Motion from G Hickey - NB Pwr
Posted Rates and LIREPP Discounts vs Time Profit Loss_01
(If you have difficulty opening this file, please contact the
Board at (506) 658-2504 or by email at general@nbeub.ca. /
Si vous avez de la difficulté à ouvrir ce fichier, veuillez
communiquer avec la Commission au (506) 658-2504 ou par
courriel à general@cespnb.ca) 12/02/2016

Notice of Motion - Gregory Hickey - NBP(GH) IR-14

Greg Hickey Interrogatory 20 to NB Power

Greg Hickey Interrogatory 19 to NB Power 11/10/2016

Greg Hickey IR 18 to NB Power 11/08/2016

Greg Hickey - NB Power Posted Rates and LIREPP Discounts vs
Time Profit & Loss (If you have difficulty opening this
file, please contact the Board at (506) 658-2504 or by email
at general@nbeub.ca. / Si vous avez de la difficulté à
ouvrir ce fichier, veuillez communiquer avec la Commission au
(506) 658-2504 ou par courriel à general@cespnb.ca) 11/08/2016

Greg Hickey Interrogatories to NB Power 11/07/2016

Greg Hickey - 2015 'SALBRYNB' NB-ISO_N E _DA & RT Hourly
Bid Data_01 (If you have difficulty opening this file, please
contact the Board at (506) 658-2504 or by email at
general@nbeub.ca. / Si vous avez de la difficulté à ouvrir
ce fichier, veuillez communiquer avec la Commission au (506)
658-2504 ou par courriel à general@cespnb.ca) 11/07/2016

Greg Hickey - NB Pwr Posted Rates and LIREPP Discounts vs
Time (If you have difficulty opening this file, please
contact the Board at (506) 658-2504 or by email at
general@nbeub.ca. / Si vous avez de la difficulté à ouvrir
ce fichier, veuillez communiquer avec la Commission au (506)
658-2504 ou par courriel à general@cespnb.ca) 11/07/2016

Greg Hickey - Sanity Check on Pt.Lepreau Deferral Account,
Appendix B, Table A Line Item 4_01 (If you have difficulty
opening this file, please contact the Board at (506) 658-2504
or by email at general@nbeub.ca. / Si vous avez de la
difficulté à ouvrir ce fichier, veuillez communiquer avec la
Commission au (506) 658-2504 ou par courriel à
general@cespnb.ca) 11/0

Green Party of New Brunswick Intervener Request 10/26/2016

Matter No. 0357

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=558

Decisions

06/30/2017 Ruling on Motion

Transcripts
Date
10/05/2017 Transcript - Motion Hearing
09/21/2017 Transcript - Motion Hearing
06/15/2017 Pre-Hearing

Exhibits

NBP1.01 NBP Notice of Application – NB Power 2017 Rate Design

NBP4.01 NBP Affidavit of Stephen Russell in support of NB
Power's Notice of Motion for Adjournment

NBP5.01 NBP Responses to EGNB Round One Interrogatories

NBP5.02 NBP Responses to JDI Round One Interrogatories

NBP5.03 NBP Responses to NBEUB Round One Interrogatories

NBP5.04 NBP Responses to PI Round One Interrogatories

NBP5.05 NBP Responses to UM Round One Interrogatories

NBP5.06 NBP Attachment NBP (EGNB) IR-01 CVs of J Todd and A
Frank - Elenchus

NBP5.07 NBP Attachment NBP (EGNB) IR-02 (Matter 336 Exhibit
5.11) Recommended Model

NBP5.08 NBP Attachment NBP (EGNB) IR-04 b) Hourly Demand data

NBP5.09 NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-02 d. and e.
Reconciliation Provincial Energy Requirements

NBP5.10 NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-18 b CEA June 22, 2007 report

NBP5.11C NBP Attachment NBP (EGNB) IR-04 a) i. Hourly Loss
Loads CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.12C NBP Attachment NBP (NBEUB) IR-06 Source data CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.13C NBP Attachment NBP (NBEUB) IR-09 GWh Confidential

NBP5.14C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) i. Acciona - 2008
01 30 Power Purchase Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.15C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) ii. AV Cell -
2012 08 10 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.16C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) iii. AV Nackawic -
2012 08 10 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.17C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) v. Canadian Hydro
Developers Inc. - 2007 01 18 Kent Hills CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.18C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) vi. Canadian Hydro
Developers Inc. - 2007 07 03 Kent Hills CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.19C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) vii. Canadian Hydro
Developers Inc. - 2009 12 16 Kent Hills Expansion
CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.20C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) viii. Canadian
Hydro Developers Inc. - 2013 10 31 Assignment CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.21C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) ix. Caribou Wind
Park LP 2007 12 14 (48MW) CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.22C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) x. Caribou Wind
Park LP 2007 12 14 (51MW) CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.23C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xi. Caribou Wind
Park LP - 2009 09 09 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.24C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xii. City of
Edmundston - 2012 04 16 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.25C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xiii. City of
Summerside - 2012 09 01 Energy Purchase Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.26C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xiv. City of
Summerside - 2014 10 07 Amending Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.27C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xv. City of
Summerside - 2015 02 13 Second Amendment CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.28C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xvi. COGERNO -
2012 06 18 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.29C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xvii. Evergreen
Wind Power LLC - 2011 03 01 PPA CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.30C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xviii. Evergreen
Wind Power LLC - 2011 09 06 First Amendment to PPA
CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.31C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xix. FRSWC - 2011
11 07 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.32C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxi. Hargrove Hydro
- 2014 12 01 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.33C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxvi. Irving PP
and St George LIREPP - 2012 06 28 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.34C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxvii. LaForge
Bioenvironmental Inc. - 2009 11 18 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.35C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxviii. LaForge
Bioenvironmental Inc. - 2014 07 31 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.36C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxix. Twin Rivers
Paper Company Inc. - 1995 05 16 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.37C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxx. Twin Rivers
Paper Company Inc. LIREPP - 2012 11 16 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.38C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxi. St. George -
2004 05 21 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.39C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxii. St. George
- 2009 07 01 Amending Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.40C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxiii. St. George
- 2009 03 16 Extension Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.41C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxiv. St. George
- 2005 02 10 Assignment and Consent Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.42C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxv. West Cape
Wind Energy - 2009 07 22 CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.43C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxvi. West Cape
Wind Energy - 2009 07 28 First Amendment CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.44C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxvii. West Cape
Wind Energy - 2009 08 13 Second Amendment CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.45C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxviii. West Cape
Wind Energy - 2014 07 14 Third Amendment CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.46C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xl. Woodland Pulp
LLC - 2016 07 01 Retail Electricity Supply CONFIDENTIAL
NBP5.47C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxxix. Woodland
Pulp LLC - 2016 02 22 Confidentiality Agreement CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.48C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-04 Fuel and PP monthly
CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.49C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-05 g) Export Sales CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.50C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-05 h) Export Margins CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.51C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-10 c Monthly forecast
generation CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.52C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-14 a PROMOD source data
CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.53C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-14 c Fuel cost info Confidential

NBP5.54C NBP Attachment NBP (NBEUB) IR-10 Costs CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.55C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) iv. Bayside Power
LP - 1999 06 29 CONFIDENTIAL (RESTRICTED)

NBP5.56C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxii. HQ EM Inc -
2001 04 06 Master Agreement CONFIDENTIAL (RESTRICTED)

NBP5.57C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxiii. HQ EM Inc
- 2012 06 21 Amendment to EEI CONFIDENTIAL (RESTRICTED)

NBP5.58C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxiv. HQ EM Inc -
2012 07 10 ESalesTrans Rights Agreement CONFIDENTIAL
(RESTRICTED)

NBP5.59C NBP NBP 5.60C - Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xxv.
HQ EM Inc - 2014 04 10 Transfer Agreement and ESTRA
CONFIDENTIAL (RESTRICTED)

NBP5.60C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-02 a and b PROMOD
Generation CONFIDENTIAL

NBP5.61C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-10 i PROMOD GWh and PP
CONFIDENTIAL

NBP6.01C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 a. ii. Matter 336
PROMOD Report CONFIDENTIAL Redacted

NBP6.02C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 a. i. Matter 336 –
PROMOD Report Confidential RESTRICTED

NBP6.03C NBP Attachment NBP (PI) IR-01 d) xx. Grandview -
2003 03 31 PPA CONFIDENTIAL (RESTRICTED)

NBP7.01 NBP Additional Information PI IR - 6c) (PI Motion 1)
NBP7.02 NBP Additional Information PI -09 b) (PI Motion 2)

NBP7.03 NBP Additional Information IR-10 f h and i (PI
Motions 3 and 4)

NBP8.01 NBP Review of NB Power's Rate Design - prepared by
Christensen Associates

Other Relevant Documents

NB Power cover email re PI Motion - additional information
filing 10/04/2017

Public Intervener email re withdrawal of Notice of Motion 10/04/2017
Board email re Motion Hearing 10/04/2017

David Amos email re Motion 10/04/2017

Board email re further information about Motion Hearing 10/04/2017

Public Intervener - Notice of Motion 10/03/2017

David Amos - Notice of Motion 10/03/2017

David Amos Submission - Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick
Barring Notice 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Mr. Amos Correspondence with Office
of the Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Correspondence with Public Service
Integrity Office, RCMP External Review Committee, US Senators,
Canadian Embassy and Attorney General 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Mr. Amos Correspondence with Judicial
Council of New Brunswick 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Federal Court of Appeal Registry
A-48-16 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Mr. Amos Correspondence March 24,
2006 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Mr. Amos Correspondence with
Fredericton Police Force 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Mr. Amos Correspondence to Lt
Generals in Charlottetown, Halifax, Edmonton and Victoria
09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Peter Hyslop Voicemail 2006 (If you
have difficulty opening this file, please contact the Board
at (506) 658-2504 or by email at general@nbeub.ca. / Si vous
avez de la difficulté à ouvrir ce fichier, veuillez
communiquer avec la Commission au (506) 658-2504 ou par
courriel à general@cespnb.ca) 09/19/2017

Utilities Municipal Submission - Cover Letter 09/19/2017

Utilities Municipal Submission - Commission des services
financiers et des services aux consommateurs v Emond and
Drapeau 09/19/2017

Utilities Municipal Submission - New Brunswick (Minister of
Social Development) v A (J) 09/19/2017

Utilities Municipal Submission - Prassad v Canada (Minister of
Employment And Immigration) 09/19/2017

Public Intervener Submission 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Cover Letter 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Correspondence - Stewart McKelvey et
al Jan 20 2006 Fredericton 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - NEB Service to David Raymond Amos 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - NEB List of Parties GH-1-2006 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Lawyers and journalists correspondence
09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Federal Court Docket T-1557-15 09/19/2017

David Amos Submission - Cover email to filing 09/19/2017

Utilities Municipal submission re NB Power Motion 09/18/2017

Board letter to NB Power 09/18/2017

Board Letter to Parties re Motion Hearing 09/14/2017

Revised Parties List - Révision de la liste des participants
09/14/2017

Letter from Carolanne M .Power - Withdraw of Intervener
Status 09/12/2017

Notice of Motion Filed by NB Power for Adjournment of the
Proceeding sine die effective November 1, 2017 09/12/2017

Affidavit of Stephen Russell sworn to on September 12, 2017
in support of NB Power's Notice of Motion for Adjournment of
the Proceeding sine die effective November 1, 2017 09/12/2017

Carolanne Power - Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

Utilities Municipal Cover Letter Letter to Board re UM
Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

Utilities Municipal Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

Utilities Municipal Attachment 1 to Submissions - 1986 canlii
4033 06/22/2017

Utilities Municipal Attachment 2 to Submissions - 2006 SCC 4
06/22/2017

Public Intervener Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

NB Power Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

J.D. Irving, Ltd. Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

David Amos Submissions on Motion 06/22/2017

Department of Energy and Resource Development - Observing
proceedings, not a party. 06/22/2017

YNVP Comments on Motion 06/19/2017

Board email - Parties can file written comments on motion /
Courriel de la Commission - les parties ont l'occasion de
déposer des commentaires écrits sur la motion 06/19/2017

Information for Pre-Hearing Conference June 15 / Information
pour la conférence préalable à l'audience le 15 juin
06/14/2017

York North Veneer Products letter re Motion of Peter Hyslop
Dated June 12, 2017 06/14/2017

Intervener Request - Utilities Municipal

PARTICIPANTS - Matter 375

IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power Corporation for
approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing
April 1, 2018.

held at the Delta Hotel Saint John, New Brunswick, on October 31, 2017.

BEFORE: Raymond Gorman, Q.C. - Chairman
Francois Beaulieu - Vice-Chairman
Michael Costello - Member

NB Energy and Utilities Board
- Counsel - Ms. Ellen Desmond, Q.C.
- Staff - John Lawton
..............................................................
CHAIRMAN: Good morning, everyone. This is a pre-hearing conference
of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board in connection with
Matter 375, which is a general rate application by New Brunswick Power
Corporation pursuant to section 1.03 of the Electricity Act and a
request for approval of a capital project consisting of the
procurement and deployment of advanced metering infrastructure,
usually known as AMI, in the amount of $122.7 million. We have
simultaneous translation available today. I believe the translation
devices have been placed at all of your seats and I am told that
channel 1 will provide English and channel 2 will provide French.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Essentiellement ce que le président

Indiquait c’est on est ici relativement en conférence

préalable et puis vous avez accès à une traduction

simultanée. La fréquence numéro 1 est pour les

anglophones e la fréquence numéro 2 est

pour les francophones. Et pus si vous désirez adressée le

tribunal dans la langue française, on vous demande de le

faire.

Merci.

CHAIRMAN: So at this time I will take the appearances from the
people who have indicated they wish to participate in this pre-hearing
conference. So first of all, the applicant, N.B. Power Corporation?
MR. FUREY: Good morning, Mr. Chair, John Furey for New Brunswick
Power Corporation. I am accompanied this morning at counsel table by
Stephen Russell.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Furey. David Amos? Mr. Amos, did you put
your microphone on?
MR. AMOS: Here.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Enbridge Gas New Brunswick?
MR. VOLPE: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Paul Volpe, Enbridge Gas New Brunswick.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Volpe. Gerald Bourque?
MR. BOURQUE: Gerald Bourque is here.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Bourque. J.D. Irving, Limited?
MR. STEWART: Christopher Stewart, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Stewart. New Clear Free Solutions?
MR. ROUSE: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Chris Rouse, for the record.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Rouse. Roger Richard?
MR. RICHARD: Oui, je suis Richard.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Sussex Sharing Club? Not here today.
Utilities Municipal?
MR. STOLL: Good morning, Mr. Chair. It is Mr. Stoll. With me is
Mr. Garrett and Ms. Kelly.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Stoll. Utilities Municipal? Sorry,
Public Intervenor?
MS. BLACK: Good morning, Mr. Chair, Heather Black.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Ms. Black. New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board?
MS. DESMOND: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Ellen Desmond and from Board
Staff, John Lawton.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Ms. Desmond. So today's pre-hearing
conference will deal with the normal issues that we deal with at
pre-hearing conferences, generally is the hearing schedule and
process. But as well we have requests for intervenor status from
eight different entities and we have an objection to one of those
requests for intervenor status and that is the status of Mr. Amos. So
I think that before we get into the schedule, I think it would be
useful to go through the requests for intervenor status. I am just
going to wait here a moment.
All right, i guess the sound system has been fixed. So we are on the
request for intervenor status. The Public Intervenor of course is
deemed to be a party pursuant to Section 49.3 of the EUB Act. And
then we have requests for intervenor status from David Amos, Enbridge
Gas New Brunswick, Gerald Bourque, J.D. Irving, Limited, New Clear
Free Solutions, Roger Richard, Sussex Sharing Club and Utilities
Municipal. And as I had indicated, the Board received a written
objection to the intervention of Mr. Amos.
So, Mr. Furey, do you have any issue with any of the other registered
participants today?
MR. FUREY: No, we don't, Mr. Chair, and the only additional comment
I would make around that is that we recognize that not every proposed
intervenor has necessarily complied perfectly with the provisions of
Rule 3.2.4, but those that have not that we don't object to, we have a
general understanding already of the issues that they would bring to
the proceeding.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. The Board has in fact reviewed the requests
that we have received for intervenor status. One of the -- one of the
issues that you raise with respect to Mr. Amos is that he has not
indicated in his form -- in his registration form the reason for his
intervention. And in reviewing them, I note that the only other form
where I see that is the form filled out by Mr. Bourque. So at this
stage I just want -- Mr. Bourque perhaps -- you know, you may not have
understood that on these intervenor requests that it's intended that
you would indicate why you want intervenor status, what issues you
would be raising at the hearing. Would you be able to provide that
information at this time? I appreciate it's not on your form.
MR. BOURQUE: Well I'm not very versed in all these procedures and I
was coming to learn what was going on, and I was -- if there is issues
that come up that I don't agree with, I certainly will speak on it,
but I don't have anything prepared ahead of time.
CHAIRMAN: So are you a customer of NB Power and what rate class --
if so, what rate class would you, you know, purport to represent at
this hearing?
MR. BOURQUE: I'm a customer of NB Power and I'm just a resident and -- yes.
CHAIRMAN: So is your intervention with respect to residential
customers or is it broader than that?
MR. BOURQUE: I'm basically representing myself and -- yes.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you.
MR. BOURQUE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN: So, Mr. Amos, before we get into the discussion with
respect to your status as intervenor, because there has been an
objection filed, again your intervenor request does not set out the
reasons for your request to be an intervenor. So just like I have put
those questions to Mr. Bourque, could you perhaps just expand upon the
rate class that perhaps you are a customer in and what perspective you
would bring to this hearing?
MR. AMOS: Mr. Gorman, I just became aware of this motion as I
entered this room. I'm just starting to read it now. I request time
to study it before I argue it. With that said, as I said in the last
hearing, residential class ratepayer, the reason I'm intervening in
this matter is because of my two friends here. Both have concerns
with these rate increases. My friend Roger in particular has to do
with the smart meters and Gerald with the expenses and the debts
incurred by NB Power. Both of these fellows are not familiar with how
court processes work and they asked me to help them with this matter.
I was done with you -- 357 and preparing to sue you, sir. I said I
will help them intervene because of his concerns about smart meters,
his concerns about the debts involving site meters and other things,
and my concerns about the severe lack of ethics of all the officers of
the court in this room. Mr. Furey is familiar with me when he worked
for the attorney General.
Now in the last hearing that I was at I was invited to a meeting in a
boardroom of Stewart McKelvey, the very people that appear to have
filed this motion, saying I don't know my business. At this meeting I
wasn't allowed to share what was said, although all the intervenors,
including Hugh Segal's associate, listened in --
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, if I could just interrupt for a moment --
MR. AMOS: It has to do with ratepayers --
CHAIRMAN: No, no. Excuse me, please.
MR. AMOS: -- and site --
CHAIRMAN: Please, Mr. Amos --
MR. AMOS: Your question is site meters, sir.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, could you just hold back your remarks for a moment.
MR. AMOS: I'm reading this motion. I'm much offended.
CHAIRMAN: Look, before we get to the motion, all I have asked you
is for you --
MR. AMOS: Site meters, sir.
CHAIRMAN: Sorry?
MR. AMOS: Site meters. $122 million and then the write-off of the
existing meters. I believe that's in the mandate of this, correct?
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So you are saying that you are intending to
intervene in this proceeding because of the --
MR. AMOS: I'm watching you, sir. You are at the end of your term
February 1st. Jack Keir appointed you ten years ago February 1st. I
wonder --
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, I'm --
MR. AMOS: -- who the next Chair is going to be.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, could you try to stay on topic here. The question --
MR. AMOS: I'm checking your integrity in helping my friends with
their concerns about the expenses of NB Power in site meters.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So, Mr. Amos, are you telling me that your
intervention would be around the advanced meter infrastructure? Is
that the reason that you want to intervene?
MR. AMOS: And the rate increase in and of itself is unnecessary.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR. AMOS: I have many reasons --
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Could I --
MR. AMOS: -- but I think it's a matter for another court after
reading this motion. They mentioned the Federal Court of Appeal. You
must be aware of me in the Federal Court, right?
CHAIRMAN: Sir, that's the matter --
MR. AMOS: Have you read this motion?
CHAIRMAN: -- that we are now discussing. Sir, that's not what we
are talking about right now.
MR. AMOS: Well that's what I'm talking about.
CHAIRMAN: I want to know the reason for your intervention and you
have said --
MR. AMOS: Site meters and this rate increase and the write down of
the current meters.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So you have indicated that you are here because
you want to assist --
MR. AMOS: Are you double-talking? That's exactly what I said.
It's on the record. I'm here because I take offence to the deal with
-- what is it, Siemens -- for 122 million and then the cost of
installing these meters so that the ratepayers will have to pay more
during certain times of the day when they use a dryer when Mr. Furey
decides it's not proper.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So --
MR. AMOS: He forgets who owns NB Power. We do. You too. We are
the ratepayers. As I said in the last hearing, you should protect
your own interest, Mr. Gorman.
CHAIRMAN: So, Mr. Amos, we are going to set aside the issue of
whether or not you will be an intervenor to give you an opportunity to
read that material. I understand that it would have been served
electronically on all parties, at least that's the rule. Mr. Furey,
can you --
MR. AMOS: I never saw it until this morning.
CHAIRMAN: Can you confirm that it would have been sent to an email
address provided by Mr. Amos?
MR. FUREY: That's correct, Mr. Chair. It was sent yesterday
morning to the distribution list in this proceeding including Mr.
Amos' email that he had provided.
CHAIRMAN: Okay.
MR. AMOS: I need to remind Mr. Furey that he used to work for the
Attorney General when I served NB Power in 2006. He and I spoke
personally in 2005.
CHAIRMAN: So, Mr. Amos, we are not going to hear that immediately.
The documentation -- I think most of it is documentation that you
previously filed, so I'm assuming that you are --
MR. AMOS: I'm glad to argue every single word that I filed in 357.
CHAIRMAN: So I'm assuming that you are familiar with that. It's the --
MR. AMOS: I'm very familiar with every word that I filed.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, if I gave you 20 minutes to read that, is that
enough time?
MR. AMOS: 20 minutes? Could you argue that document in 20 minutes?
Let me take 20 minutes to study it but I don't know what you guys are
talking about in the meantime I should pay attention to.
CHAIRMAN: So I think what we will do is we will set that aside for
a moment and we will move on to scheduling and we will come back to
that.
MR. AMOS: Because I want to pay attention to every word you are
saying this morning.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, we are going to set this issue aside for now,
then we are going to have a break and I'm going to give you an
opportunity to have a look at it. But my point is that the vast
majority of the material that was filed was material that came from
you. So I assume you are familiar with that part of it.
MR. AMOS: Let me back up. When I first introduced myself on a
pre-hearing for 357, I was opposing a former public intervenor wanting
to get on the gravy train again. I explained myself when I introduced
myself at that, that every lawyer in the room should know who I was,
including you. I sent you emails where I sent you emails ten years
ago. That said, I know who I am. I was there to oppose a former
public intervenor wanting to get paid by his own assistant. I opposed
that. I can speak on my behalf, Gerald can speak on his behalf, Roger
can speak on his behalf. Why should anybody be paid?
After that I was invited by NB Power, Mr. Furey, to a secret meeting
to discuss this. They wanted to pick my brains to see what my issues
were. And we couldn't disclose what was said in the room.
I clearly stated what my issues were, conflict of interest by law
firms. Good example. The people that filed this motion today, JDI,
Stewart McKelvey, are also employed by NB Power to litigate to collect
for Lepreau. That's conflict of interest. And then we have McInnes
and Cooper and then we have and then we have and then we have.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos --
MR. AMOS: So I asked all these questions in confidence. They said
it's a matter for the hearing. So then we go to have a hearing and
you cancel the hearing so I can't ask the questions. I said fine, we
will see you in another court. Then my friends asked me for my
assistance over this rate increase and site meters in particular and
the rate increase in general. I said fine, I will let you guys do the
talking and I will advise you because you are not familiar. Any time
that I decide to speak I will because I have a right to. But since
you people want to attack me, I'm all for it, but I need to study what
you are up to first.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. Mr. Amos, I'm going to cut you off there. So on
the request for intervenor status we are going to grant intervenor
status to Enbridge Gas New Brunswick, Gerald Bourque, J.D. Irving,
Limited, New Clear Free Solutions, Roger Richard, Sussex Sharing Club
and Utilities Municipal were the PIs already indicated as deemed to be
a party pursuant to Section 49.3 of the EUB Act. And, Mr. Amos, we
will set aside your request to be an intervenor until we have dealt
with other matters and we will come back to that a little bit later
and I will give you an opportunity to review the material that you
would not be familiar with.
MR. AMOS: I thank you for that.
CHAIRMAN: So before I get to the schedule, are there any other
matters that need to be dealt with prior to schedule? Mr. Furey?
MR. FUREY: The only other issue -- we don't have to deal with it
now, Mr. Chair -- is that we did file as well yesterday -- I filed
later in the afternoon a draft proposed confidentiality undertaking
for this proceeding, and the parties may not have had a full
opportunity to review it, but I pointed out the only changes that have
been made from that that was approved in Matter 336. And so if we
were able to, before the end of the day, have an understanding as to
whether parties accept that or if there is any objection to the
changes that would be helpful.

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MS. DESMOND: Yes, if I could just make two additional comments, Mr.
Chair. Certainly those dates I think are agreed to by the parties.
But I just noticed Mr. Furey did not comment on the public session
which is the week of December 11th. So I believe those dates are
still in play. And then secondly, there was some discussion, but no
agreement, on how the days would be used, whether AMI and final
arguments would take place before GRA or if the final arguments would
be at the end of those 12 days. So I just kind of throw that up for
consideration as well.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. With respect to the public day or days, it is the
intention of the Board to do this part of the session. We have had
some suggestions from many of the participants that it would be very
useful to hear from the public perhaps not just on the day of -- on a
hearing day but perhaps in advance, and we are currently looking at
whether or not we may be able to do one or more than one, and that
seems to be the week that works the best. So we will simply advise
when it is. I know that the applicant, for example, always wants to
be present and it may or may not work out for certain people within
the organization that feel it's important for them to be there, but
this is the week that we will be scheduling either one or two
sessions.
And at this point in time I'm not sure where it will be. I can tell
you that it will not be in Saint John. It will be somewhere else in
the province for sure.
The other thing is with respect to how we structure the hearing, I
don't think that we necessarily need to do that today. I think we
need to set the days aside. I think it would be -- I am going to
encourage the parties to see if in fact they can attempt to come up
with a schedule that works best for all concerned. We know that there
are experts that have been retained by a couple of the intervenors and
perhaps it will be by more than a couple of intervenors. And so to
try to schedule it so that again it minimizes costs I think would be
useful. So rather than establishing a date to do that, you know,
along the way, for example, there are motions days that don't get used
or just some other time, it doesn't need to be formal, but I think it
would be useful for parties to talk about that. We -- the intention
of the Board would be that we would start with the GRA and move on to
the capital project, you know, second, but, you know, if parties want
to do it differently then, you know, we need to hear that.
So just I guess going down the list of things that we need to talk
about, the confidentiality agreement has been circulated. Also there
was a three line explanation of the changes in this confidentiality
agreement from previous confidentiality agreements. So I don't know
if the parties have had enough time to consider the form of that
agreement or not or have any comments. So I will just go down through
the list. Mr. Amos, have you looked at the agreement?
MR. AMOS: Yes. I had just a -- I had a quick glance at it and I
had an issue with it in the 357 matter.
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. AMOS: And I sent an email to Mr. Furey, et cetera, and I said
don't give me anything that's confidential, and therefore I can't be
accused of disclosing something I shouldn't.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So --
MR. AMOS: He never answered me.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So your position really is you are not signing it
no matter what form it's in if it requires you to keep information --
MR. AMOS: This is a public hearing. This is a publicly owned
corporation billing the public, and if you don't want the public to
know something, then I don't want to know.
CHAIRMAN: I understand. So you don't have a position of the form
itself. You are not going to sign a confidentiality document.
MR. AMOS: I find the form offensive in and of itself.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. All right. Thank you. Mr. Volpe?
MR. VOLPE: No other comment, Mr. Chair. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Bourque?
MR. BOURQUE: I understand that these are public hearings and that
why is this information being kept from the public is my question.
CHAIRMAN: Well, Mr. Bourque, the issue here really is the form of
the confidentiality agreement. Legislation provides for information
that of a certain nature can be -- there can be a claim for
confidentiality. There can be challenges to those claims. But there
is a process. So the issue really is the form. Do you have any issue
with the form?
MR. BOURQUE: I'm not really sure on that.
CHAIRMAN: All right. Thank you. Mr. Stewart?
MR. STEWART: Mr. Chairman, to be honest, I haven't really had much
of an opportunity -- I know Mr. Furey sent that yesterday afternoon --
to have a look. So I did note in his email, you know, the difference,
but I'm really not in a position to say I'm fine with it at this
particular moment in time.
CHAIRMAN: So are you asking for some additional time to provide
comments to the Board or are you satisfied if the Board makes a
decision this morning?
MR. STEWART: I'm satisfied if the Board makes a decision.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Mr. Rouse?
MR. ROUSE: No comments.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Richard?
MR. RICHARD: Oui monsieur président. Mais je pense que je
n’ai pas reçu la formule moi aussi parce que j’ai trompé
en être poursuivi.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Mr. Stoll?
MR. STOLL: We are satisfied if the Board just makes a decision this morning.
CHAIRMAN: Ms. Black?
MR. BLACK: I have no issues with the form. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Ms. Desmond, Board staff don't need to sign
it anyway, do they?
MS. DESMOND: We don't, no, Mr. Chair, although I will just make one
comment and that is I think under our Rules of Procedure there is a
confidentiality undertaking pursuant to Rule 6.5. So I appreciate
this is perhaps a document we have used historically but it may be
something going forward the Board may want to turn its mind to whether
or not there is a standard undertaking that can be used for all
matters.
CHAIRMAN: That's an excellent idea and perhaps we might even do a
practice note or something with reference to that. Okay.
Well having heard from the parties this morning, the document that
has been put forward as the proposed confidentiality agreement in fact
will be the one that will be approved for use in this proceeding.
One other preliminary issue would be the exhibit list. We typically
mark the documents that have been filed up to the present time as
exhibits in this matter. Anybody have any objection to that? All
right. There being no objection then, the exhibit list that has been
circulated and for the benefit of the court reporter, that is a five
page document entitled, Exhibit List, and it starts with exhibit 1.01,
Notice of Application, and it goes right through to document 3.01,
Affidavit of Publishing, and each of those documents will become an
exhibit in this proceeding under the heading NBP 1.01, NBP 1.02, et
cetera. So I don't think, since nobody has any objections, it's
necessary to read out the entire list.
I also understand that -- I believe it's in the list here -- that the
affidavit -- just for the record, exhibit 3.01, the Affidavit of
Publishing has been filed verifying that in fact NB Power has complied
with the Board Order with respect to publishing a notification of this
matter.
So other than the issue relating to Mr. Amos' status as an
intervenor, are there any other issues that we need to deal with this
morning?
MR. FUREY: I don't believe so, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So turning then to the objection to Mr. Amos being
named as an intervenor or becoming an intervenor in this matter -- all
right. So, Mr. Furey, we have looked at your notice of objection to
the intervenor request and if I may attempt to summarize it, it really
relies on two grounds, and I think the first three paragraphs in your
notice of objection deal with Rule 3.2.2 of the Rules of Procedure
indicating the party must demonstrate a substantial interest in the
proceeding and an intent to participate actively and responsibly. And
so there is a responsibility there to show what their interest is.
The second part of your objection here deals with the requirement to
participate responsibly.
With respect to the first part of your objection, Mr. Amos this
morning clarified, you know, the basis of what his interest is in the
proceeding and essentially how that interest justified the granting of
intervenor status. Do you have anything further to say on that aspect
of it or is essentially most of the objection -- certainly by volume
here most of the objection seems to be on the contention here that
perhaps he may not participate responsibly.
MR. FUREY: Yes. That would be the focus of my submissions here this morning.
CHAIRMAN: And would you agree that Mr. Amos has in fact essentially
fulfilled the obligations of the first part of what had been your
objection?
MR. FUREY: I would.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So with respect to the duty to participate
responsibly, you filed documentation which has been provided to all
the parties and the Board of course has read it, as I'm sure others
have. Do you -- I guess it's your objection. So is there anything
that you want to highlight here or anything further you want to add?
MR. FUREY: Yes. If I might have a few minutes to do that, I would
appreciate it, Mr. Chair.
So I mean, I guess the starting point is what -- what is the
requirement -- what is the content of the requirement to participate
in a responsible fashion, and the rules don't -- don't give us any
further guidance on that. But I would suggest that the content of
that requirement is that it is an obligation of an intervenor to raise
issues that are relevant to the jurisdiction of the Board in the
proceeding and not issues that are extraneous or completely unrelated,
and to do so -- while recognizing that we are in an adversarial
process, to do so in a respectful and civil fashion. And our
submission is that the material on which we rely, which is all Mr.
Amos' -- either all of Mr. Amos' documents or the transcript of a
motion that was argued on October 5th of this year demonstrates I
would say quite clearly that Mr. Amos is not capable of that type of
reasonable participation in the process.
And generally, and I said this in paragraph 5 of the notice of the
objection -- generally a review of Mr. Amos' documents discloses a
pattern of behaviour that is confrontational in nature and is
characterized by unsubstantiated allegations of unethical or illegal
behaviour by various political figures, judges, lawyers, law
enforcement officials.
I think it's worth noting that Mr. Amos' own documents show that he
has, on at least one occasion and perhaps two, been banned or barred
from the grounds of the New Brunswick Legislative Assembly on the
basis of harassment of MLAs, officers and staff of the Legislative
Assembly. Having been so barred, he brought a complaint against the
members of the Fredericton City police force to the Police Commission,
that was subsequently dismissed, relating to their involvement in
barring him from the Legislative Assembly.
I am going to spend a little time, Mr. Chair, with respect to Mr.
Amos' complaint against Judge Henrik Tonning to the New Brunswick
Judicial Council, and that appears at appendix D of the objection.
And in particular two pages in, there is an affidavit that Mr. Amos
submitted in a provincial court case. And in that affidavit -- and
I'm going to very quickly move through this -- at paragraph 9 he first
deals with Prosecutor James McAvity and he indicates that Prosecutor
McAvity should have been questioned as to his malice and/or
competence. So he is questioning the malice and competence of the
Crown Prosecutor. He goes on to say he certainly would not wish the
likes of Ms. Gallagher defending his rights or interests before the
court. At paragraph 22 he states, it appears to me that not only are
the actions of David Lutz malicious, but they are fraudulent as well.
In my opinion he has no right to practice law for a fee but in fact he
should be in jail. And at paragraph 31 he speaks of a response he got
from the RCMP External Review Committee which he viewed was
predictable and unsatisfactory.
And just to go back to the beginning of that appendix, the initial
complaint on the first page of that appendix, at the end of the -- at
the end of the first -- second full paragraph, Mr. Amos makes it clear
in his complaint that he is referring to proceedings in order to cover
up the wrongful acts of the court and David Lutz. In the next
paragraph he points out that he is already complaining about Brad
Green and his conduct. Now at that time Brad Green would have been
Attorney General.
So I wanted to take a moment to point those out because that is the
pattern of Mr. Amos' involvement in legal proceedings. It is to
question the ethical or legal behaviour of virtually every lawyer or
decision maker involved in the proceeding. That is his pattern. It
continues. If you go to the next exhibit, or next appendix, Appendix
F, is a direction obviously from a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal to the Appeal Registry. Please advise the parties that Mr.
Amos has the right to submit a brief summary not to exceed five pages,
to explain the exact conflict that in his view arises in this matter
with any of the judges assigned to this appeal and to submit any
additional documents that are relevant to the issue.
So in an ongoing -- and this is dated June 8th 2017 -- in an ongoing
action or appeal in the Federal Court of Appeal, Mr. Amos is alleging
conflict of the judges assigned to the appeal. And that pattern
continues, I would submit, in the present -- in his appearances before
this Board. The final appendix, Appendix I, to the notice of
objection is a copy of the transcript of the hearing of Mr. Amos'
motion in Matter 357. And I think it's useful to remember that that
motion was a motion to deal with the timing of the hearing of Matter
357. The Board had previously granted NB Power's application or
motion to adjourn the proceeding on terms and Mr. Amos essentially
wanted that reheard. So not something that you would regard as a
contentious matter being the timing of the hearing.
But Mr. Amos' comments to the Board on that occasion again can only
be characterized as confrontational. I reviewed the transcript
several times before today. There is not really an argument in there
that was germane to the issue of the timing of the hearing. There was
a lot of extraneous material. And at the conclusion of his remarks,
and I have specifically placed this in the notice of objection, when
the Board Chair asked Mr. Amos if he had anything further to say, his
reply was essentially to suggest to the Board Chair, and I will read
what he said.
Yes. Can you think of one good reason why I don't sue you, Mr.
Gorman? You have my documents. Do you understand what are on file in
your Board? Do you not see where I am already in federal court suing
the Queen? Did I not properly introduce myself before you allowed me
to be an intervenor? Did I not explain my issues to this Board in no
uncertain terms on June 15th? And he is referring to an email that he
had sent to a number of parties on June 15th.
I think we can expect, and we have seen it again here this morning,
we can expect more of the same, arguments unrelated to the issue
before the Board presented in a confrontational manner, which will, I
would suggest to you, eventually turn to actions in other courts. The
pattern is that when Mr. Amos runs against a lawyer who acts against
him, runs against a decision-maker who doesn't agree with him, then
that issue is relitigated in other courts. And while I think the
standard here is simply one of is Mr. Amos likely to participate in a
reasonable fashion, I do think it's useful to compare the situation to
situations where courts have dealt with so-called vexatious litigants.
So I am not suggesting that that's the standard that be applied here
-- that's not the standard to be applied here. But I did submit to
the Board yesterday afternoon a copy of a decision of Mr. Justice
Morrison. It's a very recent decision in which he dealt with an issue
of determination of a vexatious litigant. And at page -- the page
numbering is a little weird in this document. I am looking at
paragraph 34 of the decision. It's on what's referred to as page 68,
but it's paragraph 34 of the decision. And Mr. Justice Morrison noted
that counsel on that hearing were unable to provide him with any New
Brunswick cases considering the concept of a vexatious litigant, but
they were able to refer him to an Ontario decision in Lang Michener
Lash Johnston v Fabian. And in that case, there is an outlining of
the factors to be considered in determining whether or not a party
meets the threshold of a vexatious litigant. And I won't go through
all of them, there are seven principles set out there, but (d) in my
view is of particular application here.
And Justice Henry said, it is a general characteristic of vexatious
proceedings that grounds and issues raised tend to be rolled forward
into subsequent actions and repeated and supplemented, often with
actions brought against the lawyers who have acted for or against the
litigant in earlier proceedings.
And that's precisely Mr. Amos' pattern in the documents that he,
himself, has disclosed to the Board. While he has here this morning
indicated to the Board that his interest revolves around issues of AMI
in particular, and the expenses and capital associated with the AMI, I
submit he is not capable of putting those positions forward in a
cogent, respectful, reasonable manner. His own history demonstrates
that and his conduct before this Board to date confirms it.
And so while we are reluctant to make a request of this nature -- I
mean, we have had many lay participants in my time before the Board.
Mr. Rouse is here with us again this year. I have never had any doubt
about the issue that Mr. Rouse wanted to talk about. He has always
been very clear. Mr. Hickey has been with us in the past. Mr. Smith,
on behalf of the Sussex Sharing Club is with us. I have no doubt as
to what the issue Mr. Smith wants to raise. All have -- while there
certainly have been some adversarial proceedings around those
interventions, all have proceeded in a respectful fashion. And so
while it is not a step that we like to take, my submission is that it
is in the public interest not to permit Mr. Amos to participate as an
intervenor. He will delay and frustrate this Board, and he will
harass the participants -- other participants in the proceeding. He
will cause unnecessary aggravation and probably expense. And so for
those reasons, Mr. Chair, we submit that he not be granted intervenor
status.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Furey. So, Mr. Amos, now you were
provided this morning with an hour to review Mr. Furey's documents
that he filed with the Board, and I think it was three or four pages
of documents. The balance of documents were ones that you had filed
in the past. So you have had an opportunity to review his submission?
MR. AMOS: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN: And you, of course, heard Mr. Furey's comments that he
has just concluded. So you know what the issue is that he raises?
MR. AMOS: I heard every word he said.
CHAIRMAN: Okay. So do you have a -- do you have some comments
about what he is asking for?
MR. AMOS: Yes, Mr. Gorman, I do. First off, I am grateful that he
filed my documents in this matter. However, he shouldn't cherry pick.
If he is going to file my documents, he should file all that he has
received. But dealing with the exhibits that he has filed, he has now
made a federal case out of a 2 percent rate hike. I remind Mr. Furey
that murder is a capital crime and when he worked for the Attorney
General of New Brunswick in 2004, who was Brad Green, his boss
received evidence of murder. Brad Green acknowledged it. He now sits
on the bench of the Court of Appeal.
Anyway, I had ran for Parliament in 2004, the 38th Parliament against
a member of your Board, John Herron. That was when it was the Public
Utilities Board. David Young, who worked for another Crown
Corporation, who is a senior advisor to your Board now, I believe got
fired because I complained of him, because he wouldn't allow me to
speak on the radio and give me equal time as my political opponents,
just like Mr. Furey doesn't want me to speak before the Board today,
even though I am a stakeholder in this hearing. He has no more
standing here than I do, other than he collects a big pay cheque that
my taxpayer funds are paying. But as an officer of the court, he is
obliged to uphold the law. He filed my documents in this matter. I
did not. He did. Then he says I am vexatious. I am surprised he
didn't call me frivolous as well. The Crown usually calls me that. I
understand the term, vexatious. He is the man who is vexatious.
In the 357 Matter, if we go first things first, there is a
transcript, which I have uploaded, you can review it or I can read it
to you. You asked me why I was intervening. Exhibit A of his
documents, I didn't know who Mr. Furey was. I had no idea what
lawyers or what was going on in 357, except on June 14th I heard on
the radio Mr. Hyslop had a motion before this Board in a pre-hearing
to be paid to help his assistant. I saw red. I remembered Mr. Hyslop
from the PUB. I remember Mr. Hyslop when I ran in Saint John Harbour,
while he run against Abe LeBlanc. I remember I was intervening in an
NEB hearing and arguing Cedric Haines of NB Power while he worked for
the Attorney General. I remember talking to him about murdered
Indians. That said, all I had issues with was Mr. Hyslop wanting paid
again. I had checked from CBC and some years he was paid like
$700,000. I had issues with him in 2006. David Young wouldn't let me
speak before the PUB Board even in a public hearing. So I had to send
a farmer. That said, I am asking Hyslop, you are the Public
Intervenor, what do you know of my concerns? I had concerns about the
refurbishment of Lepreau, Coleson Cove. If you go on Charles
LeBlanc's blog from April of 2006, you can even see I was dealing with
a lawyer named Richard Costello -- same last name as you, sir -- who
worked for McInnes Cooper, who was hired by Venezuela to check with
the PUB as to when a pipeline went from the Irving refinery to Coleson
Cove. I wanted to know about that too. So I talked to Mr. Costello.
The email between Mr. Costello and I is still in Charles LeBlanc's
blog from 2006.
While I was running for Parliament in Fredericton, and I doubt that
Mr. Furey voted for me, I was running against Andy Scott, Minister of
Indian Affairs and he worked for the Attorney General for Indian
Affairs. Now I went to high school with Andy Scott. Barb Baird used
to be Brad Green's boss. I went to high school with her too. Now I
don't know if you guys know who I am, but many people in this neck of
the woods do. My brother-in-law's law firm partner helped Peter
MacKay merge with Mr. Harper's party. When I sued Americans over
taxation and about improper tax accountants like KPMG, Grant Thornton,
ringing any bells? That was in 2002. I am glad he brought up the
Department of Homeland Security. Those are the guys that tried to
take me to Cuba in 2003 after I started winning lawsuits. You are
right, I sue people that don't do their job. Particularly, the people
that are well paid to act in our best interests. I file
whistle-blower forms with the U.S. tax man and they try to arrest me.
You are right, I sue them. A lawyer calls me a liar, well he better
check my work before he goes too far.
Anyway, NB Power, they have a mandate to uphold. It's a Crown
corporation. David Alward, 2013 comes out with a new Act. Got to
follow the Act, fellows. Now this hearing 357 was supposed to be
within three years. Now I don't know -- I don't pretend to know
something I don't. All I heard was Hyslop wanted on the gravy train.
I took issue with that. I email the guy that speaks for the Chairman
of the Board. I have spoke personally to Ed Barrett, personally. I
have spoken to Mr. Scott, his assistant. He has a very funny voice
mail. Mr. Scott loves hearing me speak on the radio and on
television. Mr. Scott was the guy I knew had the ear of the Chairman.
Now I served Derek Burney, who used to work with Mr. Mulroney, just
like his partner, Hugh Segal, right. I had served Derek Burney my
stuff after I ran for Parliament in 2006, got a signature. Why would
I do that? Because NB Power had hired Simpson Bartlett & Thatcher in
New York to sue Venezuela. Do you realize that Robert Mueller's
lawyer comes from Simpson Bartlett & Thatcher? Are you realizing
what's going on? Have you read the emails I sent you? He talks about
me in federal court on June 8th. You are right I was in federal
court, May 24th. Have you reviewed the documents I filed in federal
court since that time?
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, I am going to interrupt you for a moment.
MR. AMOS: Murder is a capital crime, sir.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, the issue that Mr. Furey raises --
MR. AMOS: Is that I am vexatious.
CHAIRMAN: Well he says that he is reluctant to make this objection,
but he -- in his view, he says you are not capable of putting
positions forward in a cogent manner. You are not --
MR. AMOS: Are you saying that?
CHAIRMAN: -- you are not speaking to the issue, which -- can I --
MR. AMOS: All right. Am I -- am I a person born and raised in this province?
CHAIRMAN: The issue here --
MR. AMOS: Did I run for Parliament five times?
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, it would be appreciated --
MR. AMOS: Are you aware of why I am barred? He brought it up.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, it would be appreciated if you would just
listen for a moment. So the issue here is whether or not you can
stick to the issues that have to be dealt with in this particular
matter, which is a general rate application. We are dealing with the
spending --
MR. AMOS: Have you read the filings in this matter?
CHAIRMAN: Sir, would you just wait till I finish, please?
MR. AMOS: No, I am arguing him and you. You are on his side
clearly. Now your Vice-Chair will probably have the job in February,
used to work for City Hall. Do you remember Mr. Nugent and I, sir?
CHAIRMAN: Sir, do you want to provide us with your --
MR. AMOS: You have many of my documents that he did not file. I
sent them to you by email. Do you remember receiving the emails from
me in 2007, sir?
CHAIRMAN: So one of the things that Mr. Furey says is --
MR. AMOS: Do you remember when Jack Keir appointed you? I
introduced myself to you then.
CHAIRMAN: Sir, excuse me, but one of the things he says is you are
not able to react in a --
MR. AMOS: You can't answer a question.
CHAIRMAN: -- in a respectful fashion and you are not paying
attention to the protocol here today.
MR. AMOS: All right. Let me ask you a question, sir?
CHAIRMAN: No, that's not what we are here for.
MR. AMOS: Have you understood one word I have said any time we have met?
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, do you have anything to add to the record with
respect to your respectful participation in this matter, in this
process? Mr. Furey says that you don't have the ability to stay on
topic.
MR. AMOS: Are you saying that?
CHAIRMAN: I am telling you what the argument is that has
been put forward.
MR. AMOS: I know what he said. I am asking you?
CHAIRMAN: And the argument that has been put forward is you don't
have the ability to --
MR. AMOS: I heard what he said. I told you that.
CHAIRMAN: -- stay on topic and to act in a respectful manner.
MR. AMOS: All right.
CHAIRMAN: Can you give me any information on that issue?
CHAIRMAN: You are the Chairman of the Board. This is not your
decision solely. There is a Vice-Chair and another man. One man is
an accountant and the other a lawyer. Now I don't know if the other
two fellows read my documents. I certainly hope that they did. The
man who is a chartered accountant should understand about Kevin Dancy
and I. He should certainly have understood what I am doing in federal
court. Now I thanked him for filing documents, but one interesting
document he brought up in particular was the man I went to college
with, Henrik Tonning. He is a personal friend of mine.
Now if he had read that entire affidavit, I had been summoned to the
court by a lawyer to file an affidavit. He failed to mention that.
But Henrik Tonning and I were once very good friends. That affidavit
that he just put in this matter no longer exists in provincial court.
That's fraud practiced against me by the court. Yes, I have contempt
against officers of the court that fail to uphold the law. Yes, I do
not hesitate in suing lawyers. I have sued more lawyers, and law
firms, and attorney generals than probably anyone else on the planet.
I am before the federal court right now and you guys will be mentioned
in my next lawsuit that will be filed by Christmas. Thank you for
making it a federal matter. That said my two friends have standing in
this matter as much as I do. You work for us.
I have my rights to my opinion and I don't have to suffer insults.
Ms. Harrison signed this document. I wonder if she has even read it,
but I consider it her insult. He is merely her lawyer. Now his name
is Furey. I served Brian Furey in Newfoundland. He was President of
the Law Society in Newfoundland. I served George Furey, he is Speaker
of the Senate. He is from Newfoundland. I know where this is going,
federal court. As I told you, you are not a court. And if you want
to argue my documents, we will argue before a judge that I do not have
a conflict of interest with.
Now I have a bone to pick with many judges in federal court and a lot
in the Court of Queen's Bench of New Brunswick, but not all. And not
every judge or every lawyer is a crook. Some of them are actually
friends of mine. Only problem I have with them is they think I can't
pull this off. That the system is just too powerful. Well could be.
Call me crazy if you wish, I can be as crazy as I want to be. How do
you explain my having FBI wiretap tapes of the mob and three weeks
after he mentioned about me being in federal court, the outgoing
Commissioner of the R.C.M.P. said beware of the mob. Bob Paulson said
that. And I am the guy with all the tapes. You got a huge ethical
dilemma, sir. You are an accountant. You don't. You do. You are
probably the next Chair.
You can do with me what you will. I will still advise my friends
about their concerns about this 2 percent rate hike and his concerns
about meters we don't need. They are ratepayers. They have the right
to their opinion and they have the right to have me for a friend and
take my counsel whether you want to argue me or not. Now he can
insult me. You haven't yet. I was grateful on the 14th when I
emailed Bob Scott. I didn't email Ms. Harrison. I emailed David
Young, who I knew, your senior advisor. And I emailed Bob Scott, the
guy who likes to make fun of me. Ed Barrett's spokesperson. I did
not think I could intervene in 357. The nice lady acting as Clerk
said what, would you like to intervene? I said what, can I? She said
well the hearings haven't started yet. It's up to the Board. It was
a surprise to me. I wasn't looking to intervene. And I said sure, I
would love to. I love to argue lawyers. It was Mr. Hyslop that was
my target. That said I come, I give the nice lady my intervenor form.
Mr. Furey sees no problem with me. He has a problem with my friend,
because he is a leader of a political party, but you guys have no
problem allowing David Coon to be an intervenor and he is a seated
MLA. That said, it is what it is. You guys allowed me to intervene
with exactly the same information verbatim that I did this time. It
was the same document. That said, you allowed me. I was grateful.
When I introduced myself, he more or less quoted me. Anyway I can --
you can review the transcript or I can read it into the record in this
matter, but I was grateful and I said -- well let me read it, I should
put it in the record then.
This is from the transcript of the 15th after you were done with my
friend, Mr. Bourque. Chairman -- this is page 7, line 21 of the
transcript, June 15th. Chairman. Thank you. I don't see anything
similar on Mr. Amos' intervenor request. So Mr. Amos, just to clarify
you -- clarify, you are also requesting to intervene personally on
behalf of an organization? That was your question. Page 8, line 1.
I am here in my own name, speaking on my own interests in this matter.
And most of the other intervenors and their lawyers know exactly who I
am and why I am here. And I emailed them -- I emailed Mr. Toner, Mr.
Hyslop. I emailed Bob Scott. I didn't know who Mr. Furey was from a
hole in the wall, right. Well, Mr. Amos, are you a ratepayer of NB
Power? Mr. Amos: I was born and raised in this province. I have
paid my share of power bills and taxes that support this Board and NB
Power. I have issues with NB Power and this Board.
And I was speaking mainly of John Herron, the guy I ran against in
2004, and David Young, your senior advisor. I didn't know you.
Didn't know the rest of you.
So your intervention though is in relation to the rate design
application? My interest in this matter, I stand and speak only for
myself. No Public Intervenor appointed by the Province or this Board
speaks for me. I speak for myself. Now the lady is the Public
Intervenor, she is with McInnes Cooper, same law firm as Richard
Costello. The same law firm as Len Hoyt, the guy that picked the
Cabinet. He is also the lawyer for Enbridge. I see a little conflict
of interest going there. I see NB Power hires Stewart McKelvey to
litigate over Lepreau problems and yet the same law firm is hired by
J.D. Irving to muscle this Board to get Mr. Irving wants. He brought
up Mr. Hickey. I have talked to Mr. Hickey for hours. Mr. Hickey has
some pretty serious issues.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, please hear me out. We have listened to you
now for 20 minutes or so, still haven't heard your response to how you
can participate in this proceeding in a respectful manner and stick to
the issues. The issue here really is whether or not you will stick to
the issues if you are granted intervenor status and whether or not you
will act in a respectful manner. I need to have your response to that
issue. Everything else you have talked about is off topic.
MR. AMOS: You just interrupted me, sir. Now I was respectful the
whole time any matter in this. Mr. Hyslop, you asked for submissions,
I gave submissions. You guys made the decision. Mr. Hyslop wasn't
allowed his pay cheque. Then I thought I was done. He and Mr.
Russell invited me to a hearing at a Stewart McKelvey boardroom to
talk to Mr. Todd about his report --
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, I am sorry, I am going to have to interrupt
again. You are not talking --
MR. AMOS: You are interrupting me because you don't want me on --
to put this on the record.
CHAIRMAN: -- you are not talking about --
MR. AMOS: I am trying to address your question.
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, I am directing you to talk about this -- the
issue before us --
MR. AMOS: I am telling you my answer.
CHAIRMAN: -- in this matter?
MR. AMOS: I am telling you my answer. I was invited to a hearing,
Chatham House Rule, so to speak, nothing leaves the room. Mr. Furey
and Mr. Russell -- Mr. Furey wanted me to talk to him before this
meeting. I saw NB Power on my websites downloading my documents. I
go to this hearing. I am saying to Mr. Russell, where is Mr. Furey?
He don't call. He don't write. I am not going to sign any disclosure
document, right. Don't allow me in the room if there is something you
think I am going to spill the beans on. I talked to Mr. Todd before
he came from Toronto. That said, they picked my brain at the hearing.
I say conflict of interest, McInnes Cooper, Stewart McKelvey, et
cetera, et cetera. I want to know things having to do with 20 percent
equity, where they arrived at that number, what the equity was? Now I
had many questions in confidence. Mr. Todd -- I am asking Mr. Russell
these questions -- Mr. Todd keeps interrupting me and says that's a
matter for a hearing. I said fine, I will ask the hearing -- I will
ask before a hearing. So then after that, Mr. Furey files a motion
kill the hearing.
CHAIRMAN: So, Mr. Amos, one --
MR. AMOS: Kill the hearing.
CHAIRMAN: -- Mr. Amos --
MR. AMOS: You are the guy who killed the hearing.
CHAIRMAN: -- Mr. Amos, one last time I am going to give you an
opportunity to address the issue of how you can participate in a
respectful and responsible manner. If you don't want to talk about
that topic, then we will take an adjournment and we will consider the
request that Mr. Furey has made.
MR. AMOS: Have I been disrespectful to this Board?
CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amos, can you stick to --
MR. AMOS: Have I been disrespectful to this Board?
CHAIRMAN: -- sir -- sir, can -- sir, would you -- you have
interrupted constantly and I would like you to --
MR. AMOS: All right.
CHAIRMAN: -- do you --
MR. AMOS: I will leave it in your hands.
CHAIRMAN: -- do you have anything --
MR. AMOS: You decide.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you. All right. We will take a brief recess.
(Recess)
CHAIRMAN: All right. I will now give the decision of the Board on
this matter.
Mr. Amos seeks intervenor status in Matter 375. NB Power objects to
his intervention claiming his conduct during the hearing of a motion
in Matter 357 was confrontational and that his arguments lacked any
connection to the issues before the Board. The Board agrees with that
assessment.
In the present matter, Mr. Amos was given ample opportunity to put
forward a case that would support a respectful and responsible
intervention. He failed to do so, rolling forward issues raised in
Matter 357 and not addressing the issue before us today.
Mr. Amos states that the interests he would bring before the Board
are those raised by Mr. Bourque and Mr. Richard. The Board is
satisfied that those two intervenors can adequately represent those
issues. In addition, those issues will undoubtedly be addressed by
the Public Intervenor and others.
The Board finds on a balance of probability that Mr. Amos will not
participate in this matter in a respectful and responsible manner. As
a result, the Board will exercise its discretion and refuse intervenor
status to Mr. Amos. Intervention is encouraged but it must be
responsible.
Mr. Amos may participate in the public session which date will be
announced shortly. But again he is reminded that any presentation
must be done in a respectful and responsible manner.
Finally, Mr. Amos had indicated that he wished to assist his two
colleagues that are sitting with him today. And certainly the Board
has no issue with that at all. But Mr. Amos will have no status at
the hearing in terms of cross-examination or making any argument.
So that is the decision of this Panel with respect to the status of Mr. Amos.
Are there any other issues to deal with today? There being no other
issues, then we will adjourn.
(Adjourned)

Certified to be a true
transcript of the proceedings
of this hearing as recorded
by me, to the best of my ability.

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Mitchell, Kathleen" <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 16:36:16 +0000
Subject: RE: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Good afternoon Mr. Amos,

Just to confirm, is this email (and attachments) what you would like
to have as your written submission for the public comments session?

Kathleen Mitchell
Chief Clerk | Greffière en chef

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Amos [mailto:motomaniac333@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:39 PM
To: dhebert@npcc.org; Furey, John <JFurey@nbpower.com>; Mitchell,
Kathleen <Kathleen.Mitchell@nbeub.ca>; Chris R
<Chris_R_31@hotmail.com>; KissPartyofNB@gmail.com;
rrichard@nb.aibn.com; david.sollows@gnb.ca; Gilles.volpe@enbridge.com;
Paul.Volpe@enbridge.com; dave.lavigne@enbridge.com; Hoyt, Len
<len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>; rzarumba@ceadvisors.com;
bdavis@ceadvisors.com; toneill@ceadvisors.com;
hanrahan.dion@jdirving.com; cstewart@stewartmckelvey.com; Cozzarini,
Lilia <LCozzarini@nbpower.com>; Harrison, Wanda
<WHarrison@nbpower.com>; Russell, Stephen <SRussell@nbpower.com>;
Connelly Bosse, Natacha <NConnellyBosse@nbpower.com>; NBP Regulatory
<NBPRegulatory@nbpower.com>; Lawton, John <John.Lawton@nbeub.ca>;
Desmond, Ellen <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>; Dickie, Michael
<Michael.Dickie@nbeub.ca>; Young, Dave <Dave.Young@nbeub.ca>;
NBEUB/CESPNB <General@nbeub.ca>; twoolf@synapse-energy.com;
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Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>; rick.doucet
<rick.doucet@gnb.ca>; premier <premier@gnb.ca>; brian.gallant
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Subject: Fwd: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:02:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Matter 375 - NB Power 2018-2019 General Rate Application
This should prove the sneaky Yankees such as Wilbur Ross that I know
how to read N'esy Pas Premier Gallant and and Bill Morneau?
To: publicaffairs@doc.gov, ecdesmond <ecdesmond@nbeub.ca>,
charles.berardescof@nerc.net, dhebertr@npcc.org, oig <oig@ftc.gov>,
premier <premier@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>,
"blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy"
<Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.ca>, "Robert.
Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre"
<darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>,
"Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, leader
<leader@greenparty.ca>, mcohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>, djtjr
<djtjr@trumporg.com>, president <president@whitehouse.gov>, David Amos
<david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
"rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "jeremy.keefe"
<jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca>, "David.Akin" <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>,
nmoore <nmoore@bellmedia.ca>, "Roger.L.Melanson"
<Roger.L.Melanson@gnb.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>, BrianThomasMacdonald
<BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, "jake.stewart"
<jake.stewart@gnb.ca>, "bruce.northrup" <bruce.northrup@gnb.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:50:50 -0400
Subject: Attn Hon.Rick Doucet Are you aware of what transpired at eh
NBEUB on Oct, 31, 2017 and these documents with regards the U.S
.Commerce Dept concerns about NB Power and its Large Industrial
Renewable Energy Purchase Program (LIREPP)?
To: "rick.doucet" <rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "Furey, John"
<jfurey@nbpower.com>, wharrison <wharrison@nbpower.com>, "David.Coon"
<David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
"Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, briangallant10
<briangallant10@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon" <Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>,
markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>, COCMoncton
<COCMoncton@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, tglynn <tglynn@stu.ca>, mhayes <mhayes@stu.ca>,
upriverwatch <upriverwatch@gmail.com>, "brian.gallant"
<brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "len.hoyt" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"gerry.lowe" <gerry.lowe@saintjohn.ca>, "mike.obrienfred"
<mike.obrienfred@gmail.com>, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Tim.RICHARDSON" <Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "Catherine.McKenna"
<Catherine.McKenna@parl.gc.ca>, ministre <ministre@ec.gc.ca>,
"Minister.Ministre" <Minister.Ministre@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>,
"minister.industry" <minister.industry@ic.gc.ca>, min
<min@dfo-mpo.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
livesey@rogers.com, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix"
<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "hon.melanie.joly" <hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>,
"hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, rrichard
<rrichard@nb.aibn.com>, Gerald Bourque <kisspartyofnb@gmail.com>,
"greg.a.hickey.p.eng" <greg.a.hickey.p.eng@gmail.com>, premier
<premier@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir"
<Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>

Hey Ricky

Remember me?

As Minister you must have been made aware of the submissions put
before the NBEUB Matter No 375 on October30th, 2017 by Ms. Harrison of
NB Power.

http://www.nbeub.ca/opt/M/browserecord.php?-action=browse&-recid=560

If not you are now. Correct?

Are you aware of all the malicious allegations against me by Mr. Furey
a former Assistant Attorney General of New Brunswick during a public
hearing the following day? If not the transcript of the aforesaid
hearing is hereto attached in order that you can never claim that you
and many others were not duly informed of my concerns of the malice
practiced against by a Crown Corp, as for this date. Correct?

With regards the other two document hereto attached and the text of
the forwarded emails, trust that I have been in contact with the U.S.
Commerce Dept. and many others about my concerns with NB Power for
quite some time.

Veritas Vincit
David Raymond Amos

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Doucet, Rick (LEG)" <Rick.Doucet@gnb.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:07:58 +0000
Subject: RE: Final Docs
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Will get right on this.
Always look forward to your brilliant thoughts.
R

Hon.Rick Doucet
Legislative member for Charlotte-the isles
28 Mt.Pleasant Rd.
St.George, N.B. E5C 3K4

Phone / Téléphone : 506-755-4200
Fax / Télécopieur : 506-755-4207
E-mail / Courriel : rick.doucet@gnb.ca

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:37:18 -0400
Subject: I just called about the next EUB pre hearing on Halloween
To: "greg.a.hickey.p.eng" <greg.a.hickey.p.eng@gmail.com>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>

Is this what you wanted me to notice?

8. New Brunswick Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program

The New Brunswick Department of Energy and Resource Development (DERD)
and New Brunswick Power (NB Power), a Crown corporation, administers
the Large Industrial Renewable Energy Purchase Program (LIREPP)
pursuant to the Electricity from Renewable Resources Regulation and
with authority under the Electricity Act. According to the GNB, the
program has two main objectives: (1) reach NB Power’s mandate to
supply 40 percent of its electricity from renewable sources by 2020 by
buying energy from large industrial customers; and (2) bring large
industrial enterprises’ net electricity costs in line with the average
cost of electricity in other provinces.

The LIREPP program is available to any large industrial company that
produces renewable energy and owns and operates a facility that has an
electrical energy requirement of not less than 50 GWh per year, that
obtains all or a portion of its electricity on a firm basis (vs.
interruptible basis) from NB Power, and that exports at least 50
percent of its primary products produced to another province or
territory within Canada or outside the country. There is no formal
application process. Despite LIREPP participation being available to
all large industrial users, the GNB has reported that there are a
small number of users of the program and that all companies
participating in LIREPP operate within the pulp and paper industry.

Under the LIREPP program, NB Power first determines the credit it
wants to give the large industrial customer, such as Irving; NB Power
then works backwards to build up to that credit through a series of
renewable energy power purchases and sales and additional credits.
This overall credit is known as “Net LIREPP” or the “Net LIREPP
adjustment,” and it appears on the participating customers’
electricity bill as a credit applicable to their total electricity
charges. Irving reported that it participated in the LIREPP program
and received a Net LIREPP credit on each of its monthly electricity
bills. Irving’s receipt of the LIREPP credit is recorded in its
accounting system as a rebate.

According to the GNB, DERD performs a calculation to determine the
Canadian average firm energy rate (in $/MWh) for the relevant
industries, and then calculates the difference between that rate and
the average firm energy rate in New Brunswick. This differential is
annually calculated as a percentage. This percentage, known as the
Target Reduction Percent, is the amount by which NB Power reduces the
total electricity costs for LIREPP participants. When the Target
Reduction Percent is multiplied by the LIREPP participant’s firm
energy usage it yields the Target Discount. The Target Discount is the
amount by which NB Power reduces the electricity bill of the LIREPP
participant.

We preliminarily determine that the LIREPP program provides a
financial contribution in the form of revenue foregone, as described
under section 771(5)(D)(ii) of the Act. We further preliminarily
determine that the Net LIREPP credits provided under the program
confer a benefit within the meaning of section 771(5)(E) of the Act
because Irving received a credit from the GNB to offset its
electricity costs. We also preliminary determine that this program is
de facto specific under section 775(5A)(D)(iii)(I) because the actual
recipients of the subsidy are limited in number.

Because this program provides benefits on a recurring basis, to
calculate the benefit from the electricity credits that Irving
received under the LIREPP program, we summed the total amount of
energy subsidies reported by Irving during the POR. We divided this
total by the appropriate sales denominator.On this basis we
preliminarily determine the countervailable subsidy for Irving to be
1.58 percent ad valorem.

---------- Original message ----------
From: "Greg H." <greg.a.hickey.p.eng@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 15:33:00 -0300
Subject: Re: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green
Meanies and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre
hearing on Halloween
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Just back home;...for y'r reading pleasure.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)" <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 16:06:42 +0000
Subject: RE: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green
Meanies and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre
hearing on Halloween
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
comments.

Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
électronique. Soyez assuré(e) que nous apprécions recevoir vos
commentaires.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Roger Richard <rrichard@nb.aibn.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:07:09 -0300
Subject: Re: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green
Meanies and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre
hearing on Halloween
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

Thanks David.
I was able to understand a bit better the argumentation.
Roger.

Le 15 oct. 2017 à 13:06, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> a écrit :

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:06:34 -0400
Subject: Yo David Coon A little light reading for you Green Meanies
and your Fake Left friends to enjoy before the next EUB pre hearing on
Halloween
To: "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>,
briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>, "Davidc.Coon"
<Davidc.Coon@gmail.com>, markandcaroline <markandcaroline@gmail.com>,
COCMoncton <COCMoncton@gmail.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>,
andre <andre@jafaust.com>, tglynn <tglynn@stu.ca>, mhayes
<mhayes@stu.ca>, upriverwatch <upriverwatch@gmail.com>,
"brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "rick.doucet"
<rick.doucet@gnb.ca>, "len.hoyt" <len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com>,
"gerry.lowe" <gerry.lowe@saintjohn.ca>, "mike.obrienfred"
<mike.obrienfred@gmail.com>, "dan. bussieres" <dan.bussieres@gnb.ca>,
"Tim.RICHARDSON" <Tim.RICHARDSON@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle"
<serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming" <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>,
jbosnitch <jbosnitch@gmail.com>, "Catherine.McKenna"
<Catherine.McKenna@parl.gc.ca>, ministre <ministre@ec.gc.ca>,
"Minister.Ministre" <Minister.Ministre@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>,
"minister.industry" <minister.industry@ic.gc.ca>, min
<min@dfo-mpo.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>, livesey
<livesey@rogers.com>, "Jacques.Poitras" <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>,
"darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>, "ht.lacroix"
<ht.lacroix@cbc.ca>, "hon.melanie.joly" <hon.melanie.joly@canada.ca>,
"hon.ralph.goodale" <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>, "Larry.Tremblay"
<Larry.Tremblay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>

Are the Irvings Canada's biggest corporate welfare bums?
By Bruce Livesey in News, Energy, Politics | March 30th 2017

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/03/30/news/are-irvings-canadas-biggest-corporate-welfare-bums

YUP

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/03/24/news/are-irvings-trying-censor-cbc-reporter-jacques-poitras

Are the Irvings trying to censor CBC reporter Jacques Poitras?
By Bruce Livesey in News, Energy, Politics | March 24th 2017

NOPE THEY ARE

However NB's Evil Empire cannot put a muzzle on mean old me N'esy Pas?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

Friday, 13 October 2017
WOW on Friday the 13th CBC informs us of Irving and their lawyers
ridiculous constitutional challenge

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-constitutional-challenge-pollution-1.4351993#vf-2325300010457

Irving constitutional challenge a threat to pollution rules 6-week
trial likely to unfold in 2018 CBC News Posted: Oct 13, 2017 6:30 AM
AT

69 Comments (The tally was at 72 comments before I refreshed the
page) Commenting is now closed for this story.

At least I got quite a few posted despite the evil moderators

David Raymond Amos
Content disabled.
David Raymond Amos
I must say I find it very interesting that the Irvings would employ
the local law firm of Cox & Palmer to take on the Feds with a
constitutional challenge and yet in the very same court the Empire
strikes using the fancy law firm McCarthy Tétrault from Upper Canada
to sue the Private Woodot Owners Association in Southern New
Brunswick. Go Figure.

Methinks something smells rotten in New Brunswick and its far more
than the wild life that the Empire has been killing for years.
Methinks the stink is coming from all the old farts called Queen's
Counsels and the politicians who took an oath to the same Queen. The
Irving Empire is the result of their malevolent actions but the
lawyers. banksters and the politicians assisting them are the true
source of all our woes

David Raymond Amos
Content disabled.
David Raymond Amos
Not thats more than merely interesting I get a "Content disabled"
notification from CBC the very instant I posted my last comment about
lawyers and politicians in this "News: item

David Raymond Amos
Content disabled.
David Raymond Amos
Yep the moderators no doubt changed shifts and your gatekeepers are
hard at work blocking me again for malicious reasons N'esy Pas Hubby
Lacriox and Minister Joly?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy

"The farms along the Saint John River system are more detrimental to
the rive as a whole We used to be able to drink clear water out of
Washademoak Lake and Grand Lake 35 years ago."

Farms along the river have been there long before your great
grandfather's time. The farmers did us no harm as they about the
business of feeding us.

Could the fact that we can't drink the water anymore be because of the
run off of all the crap NATO buried in Base Gagetown or the crap
sprayed on our forests and farms for the benefit of corporations such
as Monsanto and the Irving Empire?

"what comes out of that Mill is a hell of a lot cleaner today the it
was 60 years ago"

That ain't saying much in your buddy Irving's defense. I suspect it
would be a hell of a lot worse if it were not for the environmental
laws put in place over the same sixty years. Now the Irvings want to
argue the environmental laws etc with a Charter challenge because they
don't like having armed DFO people storm their offices or paying
fines? Yea Right not on my watch.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/j-d-irving-ltd-slams-environment-canada-over-armed-raid-1.756429

J.D. Irving Ltd. slams Environment Canada over armed raid

CBC News Posted: Nov 21, 2008 4:06 PM AT

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-pulp-and-paper-charged-1.3876409

Irving Pulp and Paper charged with dumping into St. John River Fines
could total millions if company is found guilty of dumping harmful
substance at Saint John mill By Connell Smith, CBC News Posted: Dec
01, 2016 1:32 PM AT

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
Methinks CBC, the Crown, the Conservation Council, the lawyers Helene
Beaulieu and George Cooper know how much the treehugger in me will
enjoy the Irving's Charter challenge

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Colin Seeley "A national public health organization says changes the
New Brunswick government made to the Office of the Chief Medical
Officer of Health don't make sense."

Notice that CBC did not offer a comment section in order for folks to
rebut this top bureaucrat's snobby nonsense?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/public-health-office-overhauled-1.4353800

Frank Knowles
Frank Knowles
@Randy Scott
This isn't a province. We live in the Irving Fiefdom. Only difference
is Feudal lords looked after their serfs, even if it was poorly.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Frank Knowles Methinks the correct term that describes the present
situation in New Brunswick is "Oligarchy"

However I like to call it OILgarchy" because that is what made old KC
so wealthy in the first place.

Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@Randy Scott you need to go to school so you can speak and articulate
yourself better

Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@David Raymond Amos "the correct term that describes the present
situation in New Brunswick " is Bankrupt

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Nope not by a long shot. I have been screaming for years
that we should just take all the pensioners money that John Sinclair
and his pals are playing with and pay off nearly all our debt to Frank
McKenna's Bankster buddies. Then honour our commitment to the retirees
out of general funds after that.

Is that too hard to understand? The Irving minion Blaine Higgs and the
union bosses etc whom he wined and dined thought so in 2013.

William Roberts
William Roberts
"A 2009 report by the Conservation Council of New Brunswick found that
lung cancer rates in Saint John were 40 to 50 per cent higher than in
Fredericton and Moncton."
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/06/13/news/turmoil-irving-oil

Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@William Roberts and your point is . What's the current number 35%
less still 49% more ..what are the current numbers .. 10 year old
garbage is still 10 year old garbage .

Just stinks more

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Wrong 10 year garbage hardly stinks at all Its the stuff
from yesterday created by our politicians that reeks to the high
heavens. Methinks we must get the garbage and the unethical
politicians out of the house soon before the province is condemned.

Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@William Roberts try typing English or French .. your not very good at either

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Methinks that is a classic ad hominem by an obvious
Irving pal who can't argue well.

Mark Murphy
Mark Murphy
@William Roberts and you cant spell worth a darn .. you grasp of the
English Language and grammar is poor . go back to school

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mark Murphy Methinks you two deserve each other

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos @Tim Trites "one that has caused ordinary Canadians
the most harm was granting business entities the status of people in
relation to the Constitution. they decided corporations should have
the same rights as people."

Methinks you hit the nail on the head. Politicians know that Irving
lawyers whom I call dumb and dumber ain't got a prayer of pulling this
nonsense off on behalf of their greedy client because it they did win
a lot of politicians would be run out of office.

However I have no doubt whatsoever that the lawyers will be happy to
argue this matter all the way to the Supreme Court and lose because
they will bill the Hell out of the Irvings for their oh so precious
time and legal expertise. Trust that I will love the circus.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Brian Beaton Good luck checking the books of private companies
controlled offshore

Mike Morton
Mike Morton
@James Lebreton

Bingo! Who better to specify a more effective test than Lynn McCarty,
the expert who happens to be on the payroll.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton Trust that I checked that very questionable lady out of the gate.

From her "CURRICULUM VITAE"

http://www.arnotresearch.com/images/LSMcCarty-CV-201207.pdf

"A Review of Air Quality in Saint John, New Brunswick for JD Irving
Ltd; Development of 14 Ontario air quality guidelines based on values
established by other agencies."

"Critical body residue validation for aquatic organisms exposed to
chemicals causing toxicity by baseline narcosis, a 3-year European
Chemical Industry Council"

"An Ecotoxicological Evaluation of a Whitewater Spill at the Fraser
Inc. Pulp Mill, Edmundston NB, for Stewart McKelvey Sterling Scales"

and on and on

Need I say HMMM??

Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Fred Brewer
" when the Alward government proposed to give even more crown land to
Irving for clear-cutting,"

I'm more under the impression that he was ordered and he obeyed, just
like when the current government fired the chief medical officer and
closed her department.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Rosco holt Methinks you are quite likely correct on both counts

Mike Morton
Mike Morton
@Rosco holt aka Captain Obvious

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton aka Sgt Furious

William Roberts
William Roberts
@Alex Forbes Irving grip on NB and the Maritimes in a nut shell.
Unvarnished reality!!

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/06/06/news/what-have-irvings-done-new-brunswick

William Roberts
William Roberts
@William Roberts
“What you have is a classic captured state situation, in which a
corporation essentially takes over making policy for government,” says
Bowser. “We saw this across Eastern Europe.”

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@William Roberts I have crossed paths with both Browser and Livesey
and do not trust either of them as far as I could throw them. In my
humble opinion they are part of the controlled opposition just like
your friend in the New Brunswick Conservation Council. I labelled them
as the Green Meanies and the NDP and the liberals as the Fake Left
long ago. At least the Conservatives do not fake right.

Trust that I love debating them all when I am allowed to and they have
the sand to take me on.

Here is a good example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@William Roberts Too Too Funny how you ignored my response to you

David Raymond Amos
"Content disabled."
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos With reference to the upcoming legal argument with
the Crown. Methinks I should inform the folks who truly care that New
Brunswick does not have a constitution. Hence we must rely on the
Federal Charter. With that fact in mind methinks the Irving's lawyers
may have filed their "Charter Challenge" in the wrong court. At least
this a law N'esy Pas?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7/FullText.html

Jurisdiction of Federal Court
Marginal note:Relief against the Crown
17 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act or any other Act of
Parliament, the Federal Court has concurrent original jurisdiction in
all cases in which relief is claimed against the Crown.

Marginal note:Cases
(2) Without restricting the generality of subsection (1), the Federal
Court has concurrent original jurisdiction, except as otherwise
provided, in all cases in which

(a) the land, goods or money of any person is in the possession of the Crown;

Be I be mistaken or not at least the Irving lawyers and the Crown
cannot deny that a layman is practicing the spirit of full disclosure.
Correct?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

David Raymond Amos
"Content disabled"
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos "Content disabled" ???

Oh My My perhaps the CBC bosses should read their email carefully
today N'esy Pas?

I caught the CBC gatekeepers napping again when they changed shifts N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos Yo CBC are you still blocking me?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos With reference to the upcoming legal argument with
the Crown. Methinks I should inform the folks who truly care that New
Brunswick does not have a constitution. Hence we must rely on the
Federal Charter. With that fact in mind methinks the Irving's lawyers
may have filed their "Charter Challenge" in the wrong court. At least
this a law N'esy Pas?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7/FullText.html

Jurisdiction of Federal Court
Marginal note:Relief against the Crown
17 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act or any other Act of
Parliament, the Federal Court has concurrent original jurisdiction in
all cases in which relief is claimed against the Crown.

Marginal note:Cases
(2) Without restricting the generality of subsection (1), the Federal
Court has concurrent original jurisdiction, except as otherwise
provided, in all cases in which

(a) the land, goods or money of any person is in the possession of the Crown;

Be I be mistaken or not at least the Irving lawyers and the Crown
cannot deny that a layman is practicing the spirit of full disclosure.
Correct?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

Mike Morton
Mike Morton
https://www.jdirving.com/jd-irving-sustainability-environment.aspx

I guess the above link is an exercise in creative writing. Irving's
moral compass only points towards money. I didn't see any reference to
this story in the Gleaner yesterday.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton Methinks you have shown us a perfect example of
"Doublespeak" a word George Orwell coined long before I was born.

In 2004 I had no doubt whatsoever Orwell's ghost and those of my those
of my Conservative forefathers agreed with me when I called the
Liberal control of the CBC and the Irving Empire's control of the
media in New Brunswick "Newspeak"

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Friday, 13 October 2017
WOW on Friday the 13th CBC informs us of Irving and their lawyers
ridiculous constitutional challenge

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/irving-constitutional-challenge-pollution-1.4351993#vf-2325300010457

Irving constitutional challenge a threat to pollution rules 6-week
trial likely to unfold in 2018 CBC News Posted: Oct 13, 2017 6:30 AM
AT

33 Comments At least one was "Content disabled."

David Raymond Amos
Methinks CBC, the Crown, the Conservation Council, the lawyers Helene
Beaulieu and George Cooper know how much the treehugger in me will
enjoy the Irving's Charter challenge

David Raymond Amos
"Content disabled."
@David Raymond Amos With reference to the upcoming legal argument with
the Crown. Methinks I should inform the folks who truly care that New
Brunswick does not have a constitution. Hence we must rely on the
Federal Charter. With that fact in mind methinks the Irving's lawyers
may have filed their "Charter Challenge" in the wrong court. At least
this a law N'esy Pas?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-7/FullText.html

Jurisdiction of Federal Court
Marginal note:Relief against the Crown
17 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act or any other Act of
Parliament, the Federal Court has concurrent original jurisdiction in
all cases in which relief is claimed against the Crown.

Marginal note:Cases
(2) Without restricting the generality of subsection (1), the Federal
Court has concurrent original jurisdiction, except as otherwise
provided, in all cases in which

(a) the land, goods or money of any person is in the possession of the Crown;

Be I be mistaken or not at least the Irving lawyers and the Crown
cannot deny that a layman is practicing the spirit of full disclosure.
Correct?

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

Mike Morton
https://www.jdirving.com/jd-irving-sustainability-environment.aspx

I guess the above link is an exercise in creative writing. Irving's
moral compass only points towards money. I didn't see any reference to
this story in the Gleaner yesterday.

David Raymond Amos
@Mike Morton Methinks you have shown us a perfect example of
"Doublespeak" a word George Orwell coined long before I was born.

In 2004 I had no doubt whatsoever Orwell's ghost and those of my those
of my Conservative forefathers agreed with me when I called the
Liberal control of the CBC and the Irving Empire's control of the
media in New Brunswick "Newspeak"

https://www.jdirving.com/jd-irving-sustainability-environment.aspx

Environment

Our promise to research, protect and continuously improve At J.D.
Irving, Limited (JDI) we are continually exploring innovative new ways
to lighten our environmental footprint.

Respecting the air, water, soil, forest ecosystem and local
communities, our mandate is to manage our operations so they produce
the highest quality products and services in an environmentally
sustainable and socially responsible manner.
J.D. Irving, Limited (JDI) is committed to:

Identifying and understanding our environmental impacts on the
air, water, soil, forest ecosystems and local communities
Investing in research to determine new and better ways to manage
our business, to address ecological concerns and to improve the use of
our resources
Educating our employees and contractors about environmental
concerns, responsibilities, and our own policies, encouraging them to
become environmental advocates
Best practices and building the skills of our team
Ongoing accountability through annual reporting and third party verification
Initiating and partnering in efforts to raise public awareness
Meeting or exceeding relevant environmental legislation and regulation
Continuous improvement as it relates to all of the above to reduce
our environmental footprint

Air
JDI's commitment to cleaner air starts with our forests and continues
throughout all of our operations.

Land
At JDI, we recognize that it is equally important to protect,
conserve, and give back to the land that sustains us.

Water
JDI recognizes water is a vital natural resource that's key to healthy
communities, balanced ecosystems, as well as to the preservation of
wildlife habitat.

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or former Lt Govs Ed Roberts and John Crosbie will explain
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Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File No T-1557-15 Justin
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To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

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From: "Ministre / Minister (EC)" ec.ministre-minister.ec@canada.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:49:23 +0000
Subject: RE: RE "Content disabled."At least CBC, their corporate media
pals, the Minister of Environment Catherine.McKenna and many lawyers
etc can't play dumb on Friday the 13th.
To: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com

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From: Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:17:52 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE "Content disabled."At least CBC, their
corporate media pals, the Minister of Environment Catherine.McKenna
and many lawyers etc can't play dumb on Friday the 13th.
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com

Thank you for writing the office of Karen Ludwig, Member of Parliament
for New Brunswick Southwest. Please know that we have received your
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Office of Karen Ludwig, M.P.
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karen.ludwig@parl.gc.ca

---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:17:27 -0400
Subject: Fwd: RE "Content disabled."At least CBC, their corporate
media pals, the Minister of Environment Catherine.McKenna and many
lawyers etc can't play dumb on Friday the 13th.
To: marine@conservationcouncil.ca, huntsman@huntsmanmarine.ca,
lsmccarty@rogers.com, Matt.DeCourcey@parl.gc.ca,
Alaina.Lockhart@parl.gc.ca, Ginette.PetitpasTaylor@parl.gc.ca,
Karen.Ludwig@parl.gc.ca, Wayne.Long@parl.gc.ca,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca,
MulcaT@parl.gc.ca, nathan.cullen@parl.gc.ca>, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/10/wow-on-friday-13th-cbc-informs-us-of.html

http://www.conservationcouncil.ca/en/about-us/staff/

Matt is the Fundy Baykeeper and Marine Conservation Director. Matt
works out of CCNB’s marine conservation office in St. Andrews and
aboard CCNB’s patrol vessel, the Fundy Baykeeper.

http://www.huntsmanmarine.ca/research-applied-science-services/aquatic-services/

Les Burridge
Les joined the Huntsman Aquatic Services team following an extended
career as a Research Scientist with the federal Fisheries & Oceans
Canada. His expertise is primarily focused on environmental toxicology
and his research is well recognized globally and is associated with
the effects of contaminants in the aquatic environment on invertebrate
and finfish species. His commercial research activities at the
Huntsman involve collection of data to support commercial regulatory
applications and risk analysis focused on contaminants in the aquatic
environment.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Huntsman-Marine-Science-Centre-Fundy-Discovery-Aquarium-139003032966964/about/?ref=page_internal

Huntsman Marine Science Centre
1 Lower Campus Road
St. Andrews, NB, Canada, E5B 2L7
Telephone: +1 (506) 529-1200
Email: huntsman@huntsmanmarine.ca

http://www.arnotresearch.com/images/LSMcCarty-CV-201207.pdf

Lynn Scott McCarty
Ecotoxicologist
1115 Quaker Trail
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada L3X 3E2
Citizenship:
Canadian
905 953-9342
lsmccarty@rogers.com

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