Tuesday 5 March 2019

J. D. Irving Ltd. recruiting immigrants for work in village of Chipman

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Methinks everybody is HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY again ce soir Yet some Anglos are  still upset by my Chiac while CBC is doing a lot of editing as usual N'esy Pas?


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J. D. Irving Ltd. recruiting immigrants for work in village of Chipman



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David Amos
David Amos
Methinks everybody is HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY again ce soir Yet some Anglos seem upset by my Chiac N'esy Pas?


 The whole thread that this comment was posted within was deleted before I could save it so I posted the last comment above and quit for the night


David Amos
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David Amos
 @Shawn McShane Methinks many folk must remember how much I enjoyed this news right after I ran in the election of the 38th Parliament N'esy Pas?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/cocaine-found-hidden-on-csl-vessel/article655127/

Cocaine found hidden on CSL vessel
Tu Thanh Ha
Published July 2, 2004
Updated April 21, 2018

"To all the awkwardness that his shipping empire has brought Prime Minister Paul Martin, add the embarrassment of being a drug mule.

The day after his re-election this week, Canadian customs agents discovered a stash of cocaine hidden at the bottom of a Canada Steamship Lines coal carrier, one named after Mr. Martin's wife.

Drug smugglers apparently used underwater divers to plant the drug without the knowledge of the crew of the bulk cargo ship Sheila Ann during a stop in Venezuela.

The 83 kilograms of cocaine was discovered in a routine inspection after the ship arrived in Sydney, N.S.

"This is the first time that this type of incident has happened on one of our ships," said Martine Malka, CSL's director of corporate communications.

"Naturally, the company has zero tolerance for drugs. We'll take steps to make sure this won't happen again."

She said the packages must have been concealed while the Sheila Ann was at its last port of call before Sydney: Maracaibo, Venezuela, where it picked up a load of low-sulfur coal.

No charges are expected against the crew or the shipping company. The vessel was allowed to leave Sydney.

"This is not uncommon for a legit company to be exploited by organized crime when it comes to the movement of contraband," said Michel Proulx, a spokesman for the Canada Border Services Agency."










Violet Wills 
Violet Wills
hire local why go out this province or country there are people who need jobs right here


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Violet Wills If you read the story you would see there are none available . Either haven't the skills or just don't want to work .

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Lou Bell I simply do not believe that.

Christopher J Cusack
Christopher J Cusack
@Lou Bell MANY locals apply but never even get a callback.

Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@daryl doucette ever been to Chipman? The word "skill" does not apply to their citizens. Might as well be in the middle of Trump country.

Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@Jeff LeBlanc
not true...lynchings were banned some time ago.

Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@Christopher J Cusack
you need to leave a number to get a callback

David Amos
David Amos
@daryl doucette "I simply do not believe that." 

Nor I


David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc I double dog dare you to come to Chipman and say that

Jim Cyr
Jim Cyr
@Lou Bell true, Lou.....so what ails NB society?? Thousands of unemployed.....with no skills??

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Lewis Taylor You can pay me now or you can pay me later but my advice to you is that you are too obvious. You don't give a whit for the people of this province. What is your vested interest?

Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@Shawn McShame
I prefer not to pay you anymore. what is your interest in NB? easy question...hard answers...question yourself before questioning others.
your advice to me??? not interested.

David Amos
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor "you need to leave a number to get a callback"

I have a number you will find it a the bottom of my lawsuits check Federal Court File No T-1557-15 byway of Google



Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos
feeling lonely? Quesy pal?









Lou Bell 
daryl doucette
Why am I having a hard time believing that they cant find local people to make 60 to 80 thousand dollars a year? And how " skilled" do they have to be to work in the mill or drive the trucks? I'm sure your average joe/joline could be trained quickly for this type of work.....what would REALLY be interesting is to see how much tax payers money has been given to the Irvings bring in these so called " skilled" migrants , and to set up housing, etc. And lets see their " T4" slip at the end of the year, I highly doubt there will be any $80,000 dollar ones....


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

*Why am I having a hard time believing that they cant find local people to make 60 to 80 thousand dollars a year?*

No jobs at a JDI sawmill pays over 70 000 and that is if you a millwright, an electrician or a foreman lol.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Marc Martin well well well methinks we agree on something n'est pas?

Clive Gibbons
Clive Gibbons
@daryl doucette The guy they sucker on signing on the bottom line for a $700000 harvester gets to bring home "potentially" $60k for his salary (he's on call 24/7 to care and tender to said machine).

No way a grunt gets that much. The operator is in it for $18/hr, till he quits. Not if, when. There is a reason they are brining immigrants.

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@Marc Martin They are just importing slave labor.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@daryl doucette

That's what most workers feel when they work under Irving in Mills.

David Amos
David Amos
@daryl doucette "well well well methinks we agree on something n'est pas?"

Methinks it is not wise to confer with that sneaky SANB dude N'esy Pas?

daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@David Amos heh heh good point

Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos
the PANB guy is from Chipman, nesy pas??

David Amos
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor C'est Vrai

Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@daryl doucette Far easier to control those from afar. "Keep your mouth sh** or your on your way home again and you won't be coming back"
There are 1000s in Canada that are qualified or trainable.












Lou Bell 
Lou Bell
Are these NEW jobs , or replacements for retirees ? I expect the latter .


Clive Gibbons
Clive Gibbons
@Lou Bell

They are replacements for the ones who have had enough of the Empire's "do more then we'll cut the rate" tactics.

David Amos
David Amos
@Clive Gibbons I suspect so












Lou Bell 
daryl doucette
What is a Labour Market Impact Assessment?

A Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) is a document that an employer in Canada may need to get before hiring a foreign worker.

A positive LMIA will show that there is a need for a foreign worker to fill the job. It will also show that no Canadian worker is available to do the job. A positive LMIA is sometimes called a confirmation letter.

If the employer needs an LMIA, they must apply for one.

Once an employer gets the LMIA, the worker can apply for a work permit.

To apply for a work permit, a worker needs:
•a job offer letter,
•a contract,
•a copy of the LMIA, and
•the LMIA number.


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@daryl doucette Trudeau Liberals got rid of those "Pesky Labour Market Impact Assessments" that slow things down.

-John McCallum (former minister of immigration)

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane You mean John McCallum the former Minister of Defense who assisted the Yankees in their war on Iraq and the same sneaky former bankster beancounter who just got fired from the job of speaking for us in China

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@David Amos Yes, that creep.











Lou Bell 
Peter demerchant
Great to see chipman grow...... but this is nothing more than the typical smoke and mirror jdi propaganda dept. at work. Wonder how much this is costing the tax payer, I guarantee more than its costing slippery Jim.


Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@Peter demerchant
Right...open minds can do wonders.

David Amos
David Amos
@Peter demerchant YUP

David Amos
David Amos
@Lewis Taylor Methinks I should feel honoured by the fact that my words enter your closed mind N'esy Pas?


Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos
Better closed than a lunatic.







 


Lou Bell 
Robert Brannen
It appears that JDI wants to have skilled employees, but is not interested in investing in human capital here in New Brunswick.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen Go Figure












Lou Bell 
Robert Brannen
There are truck drivers in Alberta that may be willing to move to where the jobs are, so I have heard.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen I heard that too











Lou Bell 
cheryl wright
my husband who has been in the construction industry most of his life, who is more than capable of being a general labourer, and has ran many heavy duty machines was declined not even a month ago from this place without any indication as to why. so no... lets upgrade your skills, or start you at the bottom and work your way up.. no keep it local and keep nb'ers here... I guess JDI needed to have the feds pay for the wages and give them an avenue to boost revenues on the kent homes side of the equation. this makes me absolutely sick that good men and women are going without in this province or family being divided while their loved ones go out west and our major employer does this. shame on you !!


daryl doucette
daryl doucette
@cheryl wright They are going to pay these people just enough to cover their rent ( in the mini homes Irving built and the province paid for probably) and have a few bucks left over for groceries....a WIN WIN for you know who...

David Amos
David Amos
@cheryl wright I agree with your very justifiable disgust

David Amos
David Amos
@daryl doucette "a WIN WIN for you know who"

The Irving Clan as usual











Lou Bell 
Jeff LeBlanc
Oh that's going to fly real well in Chipman which would be Trump country if NB was the 51st state.



David Amos
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David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc Methinks its interesting that CBC posts your comments but blocks my replies N'esy Pas?










Lou Bell
Paul Bourgoin
I wonder if these foreign workers are what is called Government subsidized workers. Many New Brunswick workers, our own children are out west willing to come back home if they had jobs..


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin Many folks need to pay attention to this nonsense ASAP











Lou Bell 
Mark (Junkman) George
Too bad Irving seems reluctant to train folks from NB to fill these jobs? OH! Right, can't get government subsidies that way.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Mark (Junkman) George

the problem is no one wants to :

- Work for the Irving, your work on a production line and they absolutely care for their employees for them you are just a number.
- Work in Chipman ? well no French will wantto work their for sure, they are reknown to hate everything French.

David Amos
David Amos
@Mark (Junkman) George YUP

Jim Cyr
Jim Cyr
@Marc Martin then I guess French people really don't want to work?? Bizarre reasoning on your part

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@Marc Martin You obviously have no clue about Chipman . If you did you would realize Chipman has many French families who have been there for many, many decades, going back to the coal mines. Without the mill ,there would be NO CHIPMAN as it is virtually the only employer in Chipman , and it employs a lot of people from Minto and the surrounding areas ! And you want to talk about production lines , what's your take on the 2 fish processing plants that burned to the ground in the last couple of months ?? How many SEASONAL WORKERS have been affected ? And who subsidizes them ?????????????

David Amos
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David Amos
@Jim Cyr "Bizarre reasoning on your part"

Nope Methinks it is about par for the course for that SANB dude N'esy Pas?












David Amos
David Amos
Methinks many New Brunswickers should be greatly offended by the strange claim that we do not have the skilled labour to fill these positions N'esy Pas?


Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor
@David Amos
Being last in just about every category including education would point to the fact that we certainly do not have the skilled labour to fill the positions.
Also when will you learn to spell that ridiculous saying of yours? it proves my previous point.

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@David Amos They should be really offended because there are so many unemployed that want no part of these jobs ! Companies have been bringing in outside workers for years , especially truck drivers ! Check your newspapers or news channels !

Cory Kamermans
Cory Kamermans
@David Amos Its N'est Pas. And what is with you and that anyway? You're catch phrase?

Cory Kamermans
Cory Kamermans
@Cory Kamermans *your*

David Amos
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David Amos
@Cory Kamermans Oh My My Methinks everybody is HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY ce soir yet upset by my Chiac as usual Tis a small wonder why nobody votes for me N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell "Check your newspapers or news channels !"

Methinks everybody knows why I ignore the Irving newsrags and I that I am obviously commenting a Crown Corp's "News" channel N'esy Pas?










Lou Bell 
M Joan Leuty
I do understand that the mill jobs are now high tech and there may not be New Brunswick residents currently able to fill those positions, but truck drivers? Really?
Even if there are not truck drivers available in New Brunswick, there are truckers and heavy equipment operators in Atlantic Canada who used to work in the oil patch who can be available.
Where has the company been advertising?


Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@M Joan Leuty Trucking Companies throughout NB and the Maritimes have been recruiting people from outside Canada for many years now ! Where've you been ??

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Lou Bell On the frickin highway where they don't bother to clean the ice from the trucks? where they tailgate and speed like losers? where they ride the rumble strips till they wake up?

David Amos
David Amos
@M Joan Leuty Welcome to the Circus











Lou Bell 
 Rosco holt
Cheap labor paid in part by the taxpayers.


David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt YUP











Lou Bell 
Jim Cyr
What's truly pathetic is that the Chipman area (and NB in general) can't fill these jobs with locals. Have to bring in people from other countries! NB unemployment is typically around EIGHT percent.....so what gives?? This "feel good" story is exactly the opposite: it's one more piece of evidence that NB is sick to its core. (By the way, I will expect the many crazed Irving haters to weigh in, saying how awful it is that Irving is doing this. Of course, that will be painful for them to do, because almost all Liberals and Greens also hold as a core value "open borders" and unfettered immigration....)


Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@Jim Cyr
The foreign workers programs is being abused and this story feels like an abuse of that system. They've most likely turned down qualified Canadian workers.

Why should we be happy for a business that gets a subsidized workforce.

David Amos
David Amos
@Rosco holt I agree












Lou Bell 
Lou Bell
For those complaining about NB having workers with the skills to take these jobs, perhaps the SUBSIDIZED SEASONAL workers of the 2 fish processing plants that were destroyed by fire should apply if you're so concerned !

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Lou Bell Have you seen people with lobster claw hands? They would love a job driving the JDI truck/millwork/equipment that pays 60, 70, 80 thousand dollars a year. Get real.





J. D. Irving Ltd. recruiting immigrants for work in village of Chipman

New residents are coming from Ukraine, Latvia, and Brazil


The Grand Lake Timber Mill is the largest employer in the village of Chipman. (Shane Fowler/CBC)


For the first time in years, the population of Chipman hasn't declined.

Councillors say it held steady last year because of an influx of skilled workers recruited by J.D. Irving Ltd. from around the globe for its local forestry operations in the Chipman area.

"For the first time in many, many years the population has stayed the same," said Deputy Mayor Keith West.




Eighteen new residents have already moved to the rural community, and a new subdivision is being built to accommodate newcomers.
In coming years, West expects dozens more to be added to the village's current population of about 1,000.

He says they're coming from Ukraine, Latvia, Finland, and Brazil. 

Deputy Mayor Keith West says the rural community is experiencing a housing shortage. (Shane Fowler/CBC)

"Right now we have about 10 new families from abroad," said Paul Klassen, co-ordinator of Chipman's newcomer settlement program.

According to Klassen and West, workers will be operating in three different capacities for JDI: driving logging trucks, working with logging operations, or working in the Grand Lake Timber in Chipman.

"These are not minimum wage jobs," West said. "These are good-paying jobs. These people are making 60, 70, 80 thousand dollars a year."


CBC News
New Chipman residents are coming from Ukraine, Latvia, and Brazil

 Many foreign workers will move to southern New Brunswick in the next year or two, to fill forestry jobs with JD Irving Ltd. 1:02
"So in a small town like Chipman that's big money."

West said it's his understanding that JDI is bringing in as many as 3,000 workers from outside of New Brunswick over the next three years to fill positions in southern New Brunswick because the company cannot find employees locally.

"Most of these jobs are skilled labour," he said. "And the people who say they would work, they don't have the skills and the company needs skilled labour. Working in a sawmill isn't like it was 50 years ago. You know, it's all skilled labour."


The J.D. Irving-owned Grand Lake Timber Mill has been expanding while the company recruits workers to fill positions. (Shane Fowler/CBC) 
CBC News requested an interview with someone from JDI to speak on the specifics of the positions being filled and recruitment, but no interview was provided.

According to an email from JDI spokesperson Mary Keith, 17 workers and families are expected to move to the community next year as part of the company's plan to fill 7,500 jobs by 2021.

Keith also said the company established a director of immigration as of last year and is forecasting 400 immigrants for Canadian operations over the next three years.

The workers are coming through the Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program, a federal program for employers looking to recruit internationally for jobs they have been unable to fill locally.

Construction underway


In Chipman, so many workers and their families are expected that a new subdivision is being built.
Chipman Housing Authority Inc. was created in August 2018 and lists Mayor Carson Atkinson and JDI woodlands division vice-president Jason Limongelli as two of its directors.

According to West, incoming workers can't afford to buy a home and there are few spaces for rent.


JDI has been recruiting workers from abroad to fill positions in trucking, logging and mill operations. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
"So, we've created a non-profit housing authority and putting in mini-homes and renting them to the immigrants on a temporary basis until they can get their permanent residency and get their own place."

Built on eight acres of village land, the subdivision will host 25 mini-homes, with two expansions already planned.

The mini-homes are being built by Kent Homes, which is a division of JDI.

Atkinson said Limongelli was not a part of the tendering process that resulted in Chipman Housing Authority Inc.'s purchase of mini-homes from the Irving-owned company.


Construction on Chipman's new subdivision is expected to be completed this summer with two expansions planned for the near future. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Mary Keith said Limongelli recused himself.

"He did not see any of the bids," she said in an email.

"We had four tenders, open tenders, and all that stuff and we took the lowest tender," Atkinson said. "And it turned out to be Irving."

"This was a public tender so we had to take the lowest tender anyway. But then they threw in some bonuses."

Atkinson said the bonuses include air-conditioning, with ductless heating and cooling systems, and the models are more esthetically pleasing.

Atkinson said he was not yet able to provide documents of the tender process or its results.

Nor was he able to disclose the amount the housing authority has received from the province.

"I don't think I'm at liberty to talk about the amount," he said. "But it's not enough to complete what we want and that is why we are approaching different banks."


The Chipman housing authority, run by the village mayor and a J.D. Irving executive, is working to build a subdivision on village land to house workers. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
But he said anyone questioning the relationship between the village and the company shouldn't worry.
"We are supportive of any group that comes in and offers us any kind of partnership that doesn't cost the village money and is a long-term benefit to the community," said Atkinson.

"Why wouldn't we? That's what's done in every other community across the world."

So far, the subdivision has five mini-homes, two of which already have immigrant workers and their families living in them.

Language barriers  


For those helping newcomers settle into life in rural New Brunswick, the biggest challenge has been language.

"New Brunswick is quite well set up for providing French as a second language in small communities, but not really English," said Klassen. "So, we were kind of a test case."

Klassen said JDI has required that workers they bring in speak rudimentary English for work. But their families often do not speak any English and finding teachers to help them learn has been a struggle.


Paul Klassen, co-ordinator of Chipman's newcomer settlement program, says the biggest challenges bringing in so many foreign workers have been housing and language training. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
Many of those moving from Latvia and Ukraine speak Russian. For months, the community has been attempting to set up classes for families to learn or improve their English, but three weeks ago, Klassen said, the instructor quit, leaving them in a bind.

"We are currently working with the provincial government to provide training for these families that are coming in," said Klassen.

"We're going to see how that expands and who exactly will be funding all of the training, but at least we have a commitment now to get something up and running."

Respite for a 'dying' community 


To hear it from those involved in the project, the incoming workforce is a godsend for a community in dire need of new blood.

"It's going to make all the difference," said Klassen. "Because it was another village that was just dying. And now this influx of people and work is going to turn it around."

In her email to CBC News, Keith said it is an "amazing story about a small rural community coming together to welcome newcomers."

In a later email, she wrote: "Our priority is to keep New Brunswicker's home and bring them home. However, understanding NB demographic challenges, immigration – make N.B. home – is also part of the strategy."


Deputy mayor Keith West says the jobs that JDI is looking to fill are logging, trucking, and mill working positions. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
The workers are seen as saviours by West, giving hope to a area that in recent years had begun to lose services, including its only bank. Many were starting to fear the village's elementary school and high school were next.

"When I went to school here, there were 500 kids in each school," said West. "There's barely under 100 kids in each school today. So, every kid that goes into that school is going to help save our schools. And it's imperative that we keep that."

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Shane Fowler has been a CBC journalist based in Fredericton since 2013. 


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