David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks the plot has thickened nicely further proving the Liberals were very foolish not to settle with me on December 14th, 2015 The fact our Master of War McCallum is a player is rather ironic N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/03/justice-canada-studied-trumps-comments.html
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-huawei-comments-justice-canada-1.5072345
Justice Canada studied Trump's comments on Huawei extradition, documents show
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Andrew Hebda (NS)
In the US, it is all about trade and money. It always has been. The more powerful the lobby group, the more intense the pressure on foreign government... If that approach was used in other countries (and it occasionally is) it is called Abuse of Power. Under this President, the US is not friend of Canada
David R. Amos
Reply to @Andrew Hebda (NS): "Under this President, the US is not friend of Canada"
Methinks the Ghost of Louis Riel would appreciate my informing you that the USA was never a friend to Canada N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Sharp: "The security concerns are another red herring."
Methinks amazing things never cease You actually posted the truth for a change N'esy Pas?
Steven Arsenault
Reply to @David R. Amos:
You did get how annoying that is eh? I seek to rattle as well sometimes but this is just something else...... we used to call it like nails on a chalk board.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Steven Arsenault: Trust that I don't care what rattles your chains
Methinks the plot has thickened nicely further proving the Liberals were very foolish not to settle with me on December 14th, 2015 The fact our Master of War McCallum is a player is rather ironic N'esy Pas?
David Sampson
The actions by China, in apparent retaliation, amount to bullying which is offensive in every form. It’s now a contest who poses the greater risk to Canada, China or Trump!
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Sampson: "It’s now a contest who poses the greater risk to Canada, China or Trump!"
David R. Amos
Reply to @Richard Sharp: "We perhaps should have forewarned her not to get on the plane to Vancouver."
Methinks many would agree that would have been a major faux pas N'esy Pas?
Steven Arsenault
Reply to @David R. Amos:
Seek help.
Stu Wozniak
Reply to @Steven Arsenault: Hethinks not needed.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Stu Wozniak: True
Methinks a wise dude must abide as he reads your two bits worth N'esy Pas?
Neil Gregory
The fact that Trump has stated that he is willing to interfere is the Judicial process means that she will NOT get a fair trial, and the, extradition, should therefore be cancelled.
Robert Paul
Reply to @Neil Gregory: I agree 100% Let her go, Trudeau!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Robert Paul: Me Too
Don King
Trump and the US. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Don King: Exactly
Gilles Lafreniere
Canada is used as a pawn in the commercial war that the US wages at it's chinese opponent. Canada should get out of this position by refusing to extradite this person and by sending her back to China.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Gilles Lafreniere: Methinks "The Powers that Be" and Meng's lawyers know that I have saying that for some time now and putting it in writing as well N'ey Pas?
Claire Bensen
Absolutely a no win situation for Canada
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Claire Bensen: Methinks everybody but Trudeau The Younger and his minions knew that out of the gate and he fired the former Master of War McCallum for stating the obvious N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Content disabledReply to @David R. Amos: Methinks some folks may find it strange that comment was erased after standing for so many hours N'esy Pas?
John Sollows
We cannot avoid buying American nor Chinese, but we can boycott when we have a choice.
in the long run, that is how we will reduce our vulnerability to both these bullies.
David R. Amos
Reply to @John Sollows: "We cannot avoid buying American nor Chinese, but we can boycott when we have a choice."
I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Linus Smythson
China- We are not going to play by the rules.
US- We are not going to play by the rules.
Canada- Let's see here, the rule book says.....
David R. Amos
Reply to @Linus Smythson: Well put
Arthur Robeson
Another incompetent fiasco by the Trudeau government.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Arthur Robeson: "Another incompetent fiasco by the Trudeau government."
YUP
Stefan Pozzi
But Justin Trudeau says Canada is a rule of law country where political interference doesn't influence decisions whether to prosecute or not.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Stefan Pozzi: Methinks if that were remotely true then Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger would not have allowed his former Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould and her many minions to attack my lawsuit that I filed when Harper had his job (Federal Court File No T-1557-15) N'esy Pas?
Justice Canada studied Trump's comments on Huawei extradition, documents show
U.S. president told Reuters he's willing to intervene in case to further interests with China
U.S. President Donald Trump's comment
about his willingness to intervene in the court case against a Huawei
executive was part of the Canadian Justice Department's legal analysis
of the extradition case against Meng Wanzhou.
The analysis, under the heading 'President Trump's statement to Reuters that he may intervene in the extradition,' is part of a legal synopsis for the Department of Justice obtained by CBC News through an access to information request.
CBC News requested all government legal analyses of available options in the case against Meng, who was arrested by Canadian authorities in Vancouver on December 1 at the request of the United States.
American authorities accuse Meng of bank fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy as part of their larger legal case against telecommunications giant Huawei.
In an exclusive interview with Reuters on December 11, Trump was asked if he would be willing to intervene in the case.
"Whatever's good for this country, I would do," he said.
"If I think it's good for what will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made, which is a very important thing, what's good for national security, I would certainly intervene if I thought it was necessary."
That comment infuriated official Ottawa; Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland personally raised her frustration over Trump's statement with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
China has tried to pressure the Canadian government to intervene, demanding that Meng be released immediately.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has argued repeatedly that Canada is a rule of law country and that there will be no political interference in the case.
Trudeau fired his ambassador to China, John McCallum, after he twice waded into the legal saga publicly. McCallum argued that Meng has a strong case to fight extradition and pointed to President Trump's comments as evidence.
Of the 123 pages in the document, only six were not fully redacted.
The section on Trump's remark is partly redacted and includes comments by U.S. Assistant Attorney General John Demers, who testified on Capitol Hill the day after the Reuters interview was published.
"Asst. A.G. Demers testified that if Ms. Meng is extradited to the U.S., the criminal case will proceed," the document reads.
"He further testified, 'We [the U.S. Dept. of Justice] follow the facts and we vindicate violations of U.S. law. That's what we're doing when we bring those cases, and I think it's very important for other countries to understand that we are not a tool of trade when we bring the cases.'"
Vancouver-based immigration lawyer Richard Kurland said he is not surprised to see Trump's comments included in the federal analysis, given their shocking nature.
"Presidents don't discuss active extradition cases, period," he told CBC News.
"If President Trump thought it important enough to raise the Canadian extradition case in the context of American-China trade negotiations, saying he may intervene if it assists China, that's telling. And it's been captured now in writing, in a high-level government document.
"The defence counsel may well have the improper purpose-abusive process defence to strike down, shut down, this Huawei extradition case quickly."
The document goes on to outline basic facts about how the extradition process works and when a minister can intervene, and lists some statistics.
Since 2008, it says, Canada has extradited 577 people to the United States and just 100 people to all other countries combined.
According to the analysis, 21 of those extradited were Chinese nationals; nine of those Chinese nationals were sent to the U.S.
"The Minister must refuse extradition if it would be unjust or oppressive or if the request was made for an improper purpose (e.g. on grounds of race, religion, nationality, ethnic origin, political opinion etc.)," the document states.
The document also confirms Canadian ministers have stepped in to stop the extradition of individuals in the past.
"Since 1993 (the earliest date for which we have statistics), the Minister of Justice has discharged persons sought for extradition in 13 cases," the document says.
Although the document does not provide case specifics, it says that "of those 13 cases, 10 were extradition requests from the United States.
"This is the only power under the Act which is expressly exercisable only by the minister."
Two
Canadians — former diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael
Spavor — were detained in December by Beijing and remain in custody —
actions widely seen as retaliation for Meng's arrest.
Although neither man has been charged, Chinese officials allege both were involved in espionage.
China also recently banned the purchase of canola seed from certain Canadian exporters, claiming the product is tainted.
Ottawa says there is no science to back up that claim and is looking at sending a high-level delegation from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency to China to try to resolve the issue.
While there is no direct evidence the canola ban is related to the diplomatic dispute, at least one company involved says it believes it was targeted due to diplomatic tensions.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesThe analysis, under the heading 'President Trump's statement to Reuters that he may intervene in the extradition,' is part of a legal synopsis for the Department of Justice obtained by CBC News through an access to information request.
CBC News requested all government legal analyses of available options in the case against Meng, who was arrested by Canadian authorities in Vancouver on December 1 at the request of the United States.
American authorities accuse Meng of bank fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy as part of their larger legal case against telecommunications giant Huawei.
"Whatever's good for this country, I would do," he said.
"If I think it's good for what will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made, which is a very important thing, what's good for national security, I would certainly intervene if I thought it was necessary."
That comment infuriated official Ottawa; Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland personally raised her frustration over Trump's statement with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has argued repeatedly that Canada is a rule of law country and that there will be no political interference in the case.
Trudeau fired his ambassador to China, John McCallum, after he twice waded into the legal saga publicly. McCallum argued that Meng has a strong case to fight extradition and pointed to President Trump's comments as evidence.
Of the 123 pages in the document, only six were not fully redacted.
The section on Trump's remark is partly redacted and includes comments by U.S. Assistant Attorney General John Demers, who testified on Capitol Hill the day after the Reuters interview was published.
"Asst. A.G. Demers testified that if Ms. Meng is extradited to the U.S., the criminal case will proceed," the document reads.
"He further testified, 'We [the U.S. Dept. of Justice] follow the facts and we vindicate violations of U.S. law. That's what we're doing when we bring those cases, and I think it's very important for other countries to understand that we are not a tool of trade when we bring the cases.'"
An argument for shutting down Meng's case?
Vancouver-based immigration lawyer Richard Kurland said he is not surprised to see Trump's comments included in the federal analysis, given their shocking nature.
"Presidents don't discuss active extradition cases, period," he told CBC News.
"If President Trump thought it important enough to raise the Canadian extradition case in the context of American-China trade negotiations, saying he may intervene if it assists China, that's telling. And it's been captured now in writing, in a high-level government document.
"The defence counsel may well have the improper purpose-abusive process defence to strike down, shut down, this Huawei extradition case quickly."
The document goes on to outline basic facts about how the extradition process works and when a minister can intervene, and lists some statistics.
Since 2008, it says, Canada has extradited 577 people to the United States and just 100 people to all other countries combined.
According to the analysis, 21 of those extradited were Chinese nationals; nine of those Chinese nationals were sent to the U.S.
"The Minister must refuse extradition if it would be unjust or oppressive or if the request was made for an improper purpose (e.g. on grounds of race, religion, nationality, ethnic origin, political opinion etc.)," the document states.
The document also confirms Canadian ministers have stepped in to stop the extradition of individuals in the past.
"Since 1993 (the earliest date for which we have statistics), the Minister of Justice has discharged persons sought for extradition in 13 cases," the document says.
Although the document does not provide case specifics, it says that "of those 13 cases, 10 were extradition requests from the United States.
"This is the only power under the Act which is expressly exercisable only by the minister."
Although neither man has been charged, Chinese officials allege both were involved in espionage.
China also recently banned the purchase of canola seed from certain Canadian exporters, claiming the product is tainted.
Ottawa says there is no science to back up that claim and is looking at sending a high-level delegation from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency to China to try to resolve the issue.
While there is no direct evidence the canola ban is related to the diplomatic dispute, at least one company involved says it believes it was targeted due to diplomatic tensions.
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