Thursday 15 August 2019

A Prime Minister's Office drunk on its own arrogance


https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-wednesday-edition-1.5246796/snc-lavalin-report-vindicates-jody-wilson-raybould-says-political-scientist-1.5246798 



SNC-Lavalin report vindicates Jody Wilson-Raybould, says political scientist

David Moscrop says nobody comes off as 'deeply nefarious' in the ethics commissioner's report 



The ethics commissioner's report completely vindicates former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould, says a political science professor — but it still doesn't give us any clear heroes and villains in the SNC-Lavalin affair.

In a report released on Wednesday, Mario Dion found Prime Minister Justin Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act in 2018 when he tried to pressure then-justice minister Wilson-Raybould to overrule a federal prosecutor's decision to send Quebec-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin to trial on corruption charges.

Trudeau told reporters that while he accepts the report and takes full responsibility for what happened, he disagrees with some of Dion's conclusions.




David Moscrop, a political scientist and postdoctoral fellow at the University of Ottawa, says Dion makes a strong case against Trudeau, but there's still no "smoking gun."

Here is part of his conversation with As It Happens guest host Nil Köksal.

We've all been poring through the 63 pages of the ethics commissioner's report. But in a nutshell for our listeners, break down the key points.

There's a couple of things that stand out as new and remarkable, and one of them is that in the course of his investigation the ethics commissioner, Mr. Dion, had a hard time getting access to all of the documents that he needed to carry out the investigation.

That's a significant problem. I think that's an indictment of the system to some extent.

But the broader, more interesting takeaway is that this is the first time the entire affair has been laid out in one place in comprehensive detail. And it is ultimately a narrative that backs up Jody Wilson-Raybould's story, that she was pressured consistently and inappropriately to intervene.





Politics News
Trudeau says "the buck stops with the Prime Minister"



 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke to reporters in Niagara on the Lake on Wednesday 1:07


She's just released a statement on her Facebook page using the word "vindication." It's a word that some other analysts have used as we waited for her response. What do you make of what she said in response?

Jody Wilson-Raybould
15 hours ago
Please see the statement from the Hon. Jody Wilson-Raybould, M.P. for Vancouver Granville on the release of the Trudeau II Report of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner.
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It's a word I have been using all day. It's a word that kept rolling across my mind as I read through the report earlier today. It reads like a vindication of everything that she has said publicly after February [and] everything that she had been concerned about in the events that led up to February.



He makes the distinction, Dion does, that just trying to influence the decision of another person — speaking to the attorney general — doesn't violate the Code, this Section 9. But that trying to promote the interests, private interests of another person, that's the key here. 

He lays out three instances ... in which there was undue or inappropriate pressure placed on Jody Wilson-Raybould as attorney general. To me, that is not quite, I think, what you call a smoking gun, but certainly a persuasive case made that there had been a contravention of Section 9.

Take us through those points. 

The first was Michael Wernick, who was then head of the Privy Council, bringing up SNC-Lavalin's impending board meeting and mentioning economic consequences.

And of course then the others were [Trudeau] mentioning the federal election and mentioning the Quebec election.


Ethics commissioner Mario Dion released a report Wednesday concluding that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act in the SNC-Lavalin Affair. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)


That was a line from the Liberals repeatedly — there are 9,000 jobs to be protected in Quebec, that those would be lost if SNC-Lavalin faced a corruption trial. We heard the prime minister hint at that again. He is sticking to that argument.

I think one of the interesting challenges in this whole affair is that we want a caricature of people. Observers like when it's black and white or when there's a villain and a hero.

I think the truth is, reading through this report, looking back on the committee testimony, reading reports that were released in stories in February and March, what you see as human beings in the middle of a political system who are acting for a whole bunch of different reasons — some of them you would say were perfectly consistent with their roles and with the Conflict of Interest Act, and some that weren't. And what Mr. Dion has highlighted in this report are the ones that weren't.

At the end of the day. we'd like for things to be clean and direct and simple, but I don't think anyone is deeply nefarious in any of this. Misguided, definitely. Part of a toxic political culture, no doubt. But it certainly comes off as slightly more complicated than you might think.


Politics News
Singh says Trudeau cannot be Prime Minister



 NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says that Trudeau's history of ethics violations should not be re-elected as Prime Minister. 1:15


But Canadians are trying to make up their minds, right? Ten weeks before an election. So the timing of all this is critical. It could work for or against Mr. Trudeau and the Liberals. What do you make of the timing?

My working hypothesis is that this was deemed as a priority and something that was in the public interest to release sooner rather than later.

Although I can't imagine that the thought hadn't crossed someone's mind in the ethics office that after a certain point, as we approach the election, it gets politically pretty dicey to release it.

We don't want a Comey letter in Canada, right? So if this came out in October, it would have been a massive problem.



Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer spoke to reporters in Regina on Wednesday

Could this sway or decide the election in your view?

My sense is that it's certainly going to do the Liberals no favours. It's going to make what was already a very difficult task getting re-elected even more difficult. It's going to confirm a lot of what people already believe.

I don't know how many minds are going to get changed because of this. I suspect most people sort of made up their mind about SNC back in the spring and early summer, and I don't imagine much is going to change.
But it's going to distract quite a bit. So there's going to be things that the Liberals want to talk about that they no longer get to talk about, or get to talk about far less.

It's also going to motivate opponents. We've already seen the energy coming from Jagmeet Singh and Andrew Scheer already today. It's going to motivate them going forward.

Written by Sheena Goodyear with files from John Paul Tasker and The Canadian Press. Interview produced by Jeanne Armstrong. Q&A has been edited for length and clarity.



135 Comments


David R. Amos
Methinks David Moscrop does not know the whole story but CBC certainly does N'esy Pas? 



https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies





Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks posting a comment on this news item would go unnoticed just like a fart in a blizzard N'esy Pas?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-snc-ethics-commissioner-violated-code-1.5246551





'I take responsibility,' Trudeau says in wake of damning report on SNC-Lavalin ethics violation

Ethics commissioner Mario Dion says Trudeau inappropriately tried to influence Jody Wilson-Raybould








John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Aug 14, 2019 11:15 AM ET



17913 Comments






Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks the obvious answer is YUP N'esy Pas? 


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-prime-ministers-office-drunk-on-its.html




https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-snclavalin-polls-1.5247244




Is Trudeau in for another hit in the polls because of the SNC-Lavalin ethics report?




3905 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.





Jean Leman
If you vote for Justin now, then you should question your own ethics, integrity and IQ.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Jean Leman: I never voted for him in the first place. Methinks my ethics, integrity and IQ tell me to only vote for myself but thats just common sense anyway N'esy Pas?


















Jim Johnson
CBC is already starting to down play the SNC scandal.

 
David R. Amos
Reply to @Jim Johnson: Methinks that par for the course in this wicked game N'esy Pas?
















David R. Amos
Methinks many folks would agree it was very interesting and no coincidence that while Trudeau was in Fredericton yesterday trying to buy the election with taxpayer funds that no doubt one of his minions posted this comment about my lawsuit within this forum N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/supreme-court-justices-snc-lavalin-dion-1.5247331

Darren MacDonald Reply to @David R. Amos: What does this mean?
"The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that amendment could not cure them"



















Bob Smith
My vote is conservative hands down!! When Harper was in power there was government stability, good relations with the provinces, and there was financial turmoil in the world and Harper managed to spare Canada from it. Also the debt load improved and the Canadian dollar reached par with the American dollar which is a great sign as Canada becoming a great place to invest. Now we have Trudeau - His government has been investigated 5 times with the ethics commisioner, with 2 convictions to Trudeau himself which has never happened!! Relations are bad with the provinces with record debt levels in a very good world economy with a tanked Canadian dollar. Now we are on the cusp of a recession and Trudeau has done a terrible job of preparing Canada!! There is simply no good news with Trudeau and the Liberals and we the voter are going to pay dearly for the liberal mistakes made over the past 4 years!! 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Bob Smith: Cry me a river


Bob Smith
Reply to @David R. Amos: If you are a voter you should be crying!! I am guessing you are employed by Trudeau!


David R. Amos
Reply to @Bob Smith: Methinks if you were to check my work you would see that a lot folks know that I ran against them all 6 times thus far and that I am preparing to do so again N'esy Pas? 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Bob Smith: Google Fundy Royal Debate
















Lewis Harvey
I voted for the Liberal candidate last election. In October I will not be doing the same. I am not impressed with Conservative carbon-friendly agenda agenda. So I guess that leaves me a choice between Elizabeth May's Green Party and the NDP. Either one would be a big improvement on the Liberals which it appears remain firmly entrenched in their corrupt old ways.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Lewis Harvey: Methinks there are other political parties besides the ones you mentioned and there are also many Independents such as the tag team of Jody and Jane N'esy Pas?


















Robert Morris
It would be a mistake to assume that liberal voters would turn to the conservatives in light of the SNC affair.......at the end of the day a great many voters do not want a rerun of the harper agenda.......the conservatives had 4 years to fix their agenda and did absolutely nothing.....there is also the added problem that the conservatives are running without a credible plan to reduce carbon emissions.....this suggests that they put the interests of big oil companies ahead of the environment.....


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Robert Morris: Who says they have to turn to the Conservatives?



















James Fisher
If you have to ask what ethics are, you are a liberal!


David R. Amos 
Reply to @James fisher: or a lawyer



















Cameron SMith
Junior has nothing to worry about.
Conduct a poll of Quebec voters.
They are quite used to crime bosses.



David R. Amos  
Reply to @Cameron SMith: True



















Randy A. Selkirk
Trudeau is done ! Not as advertised !


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Randy A. Selkirk: Methinks considering his opposition and the fact that it two months before the Fat Lady sings about the accuracy of pollsters it would not be wise to bet the farm on your opinion N'esy Pas?

















David R. Amos
Methinks only the Privy Council and I know why Mr Dion's Report is far from complete However anyone can Google certain names and mine to read simple truths for themselves before polling day N'esy Pas?



Norman McLellan
One can only hope that the Canadian public sees this guy as who he really is, a boy of privilege who feels a need to protect "friends" and the Liberals do take a hit.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Norman McLellan: I hope some folks read my comments found immediately below this one and ask their MPs some questions before polling day


















Laine Smith
Lots of Liberals here suggesting JWR, a long time lawyer wasn't up to the job of AG... While at the same time suggesting that the snowboarder with no career before age 36 is a capable Prime Minister.
Your logic seems flimsy.



Eugene Packet
Reply to @Laine Smith: it is true. Raybold left an innocent man in prison for 18 months while his file sat on her desk.

Richard Lane 
Reply to @Laine Smith: Everyone loved JWR.....until she proved herself to be much more than just a "quota-filling" symbol for Justin Trudeau. After she stood up to Trudeau, the talking points to criticize her were sent out from the PMO to the folks whom Katie Telford keeps on her rolodex in case of emergencies just like this. You can also be sure that Gerry had some input.

David R. Amos 
Reply to @Eugene Packet: Good Point

David R. Amos 
Reply to @Eugene Packet: Methinks everybody knows Raybould had her minions argue me in Federal Court for years even though she knew the truth of the matter BEFORE she was sworn in as Attorney General N'esy Pas? 

Scott Brennand
Reply to @Eugene Packet: I think he was out of prison a year or two before the liberals won in 2015. He waited 18 months for an exoneration, but yours is a better story for sure.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Scott Brennand: Methinks this is a better story Justin Trudeau or anyone else can Google the following then scroll down to read statement 83 N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos versus the Crown Federal Court File No. T-1557-15














David R. Amos
Methinks it strange that after many thousands of comments within CBC since the Dion Report surfaced now all I hear is crickets N'esy Pas?

 
David R. Amos 
Methinks the question is "Is Trudeau in for another hit in the polls because of the SNC-Lavalin ethics report?"

The obvious answer is YUP N'esy Pas? 



Richard Lane
Reply to @David R. Amos: He won't apologize because he is trying to appear as though he is standing up for jobs in Quebec; and that is where the chances of another majority lay. He doesn't care about jobs out west (200,000 of them lost) because the people out West can see Trudeau for the empty suit he is; and they don't vote for him. Corruption in Quebec is par for the course; they have accepted it as the consequences they must endure if the payola from the rest of Canada is to keep rolling in to pay for their daycare and other programs they can't afford on their own.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks the strange part of all this is that everybody knows I defended Trudeau The Younger's reputation in the lawsuit I filed in Federal Court against the Crown when Harper was the Prime Minister and Scheer was the Speaker N'esy Pas?



















Chris Chris
No. Risk the Cons pose with increased suffering to poor & vulnerable, & risk to enviro is much greater than risk Libs pose w/different subjective opinion on SNC issue. More importantly Libs are open to listening & making changes as we saw w/response to Court findings on trans mountain pipeline, while Cons are not, they don't gave climate plan, they work for big oil & have ties to far right Rebel Media & refuse to kick out bigots like Cooper as they promised to. I'm voting Liberal to keep our mist vulnerable safe.


Deganawidah Ayenwatha
Reply to @Chris Chris: There is no 'subjective opinion' on the SNC issue. The ethics commissioner is appointed by the PM but is the independent investigator. The finding was very clear - read it. This is a disgusting PM who tried to get a sweetheart deal for a company that donated to and lobbied the PM. He attempted to obstruct justice by pressuring the independent Attorney Journal to reverse a decision already made by the DPP.


Deganawidah Ayenwatha
Reply to @Deganawidah Ayenwatha: General not Journal - typo - sorry

David R. Amos 
Reply to @Deganawidah Ayenwatha: Methinks folks should ask me about what went down between the lawyer Mario Dion and I that caused him to quit as Commissioner on Public Sector Integrity which caused Harper to force the appointment of another lawyer to replace him (Joe Friday) Trust that many political pundits recall that went down not long before Harper had his lawyer buddy David Johnston drop the writ in 2015 N'esy Pas?


Richard Lane
Reply to @Chris Chris: The Liberal Party relies upon idiocy such as yours. And they know that their behaviour will not make a difference to people like you.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Richard lane: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger will never dare to deny that I have a signed letter from a lawyer speaking for the Commissioner on Public Sector Integrity in 2008 who now works for the current Attorney General because I filed it in the Public Record of my 2015 lawsuit against the Crown N'esy Pas?


James Bilodeau
Reply to @David R. Amos: Methinks you talk to much and think too highly of yourself, whoever the hell you Gerald Bu tts.

















Kirby Harris
Just looked to see what Wikipedia has about SNC-Lavalin and they are a mega company with lots of legal issues since 2001 and a public relations nightmare for previous governments.SNC-Lavalin is one of those manipulating forces behind the political scenes. Prime Minister Trudeau is in the clear compared to SNC.


Diego Odorizzi
Reply to @kirby harris: ...Trudeau is tied to the hip of SNC
Patricia Deronde 
Reply to @Diego Odorizzi: Is that your opinion or a fact. Be careful what you say.
Diego Odorizzi
Reply to @Patricia deronde: ..that’s my opinion....with good reason
Richard Lane
Reply to @kirby harris: SNC will try to bribe and corrupt any politician they deal with. They just find it much easier to do with the kind of people who join the Liberal party. In the Liberals...they have a group of folks who think as they do; the end justifies the means. And at the end of the day, it is their own personal enrichment that most Liberals are looking for. They fired the only two who actually stood for something.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Diego Odorizzi: I concur


















Gustav Labadie
all the kings pollsters and media pens
couldn't help Justin sway voter intents



Patricia Deronde 
Reply to @Gustav Labadie: and the Jason Kenney RCMP investigation is about the same thing? Isn't he the one that conservatives say will be the next leader of their party? Interesting


David R. Amos
Reply to @Gustav Labadie: Heres Hoping That Many Folks Wholeheartedly Agree With You Sir


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Patricia deronde: Methinks desperate liberals do post desperate things N'esy Pas?


















Jasbir Narwal
Andrew and Jagmeet are hopeless.


Diego Odorizzi 
Reply to @Jasbir Narwal: ..and Trudeau is less than hopeless
Richard Lane
Reply to @Jasbir Narwal: Yep...they should have picked Max.
David R. Amos 
Reply to @Jasbir Narwal: Yup
David R. Amos 
Reply to @Richard lane: Nope
















Bob Lyall
If the RCMP opens an investigation it will be time for JT to fall on his sword. 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Bob Lyall: Dream on 
















Jacob Hobart
Nope JT fan club doesn't care about ethics breaches.... 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Jacob Hobart: Methinks that is blatantly obvious but the real problem is the other political parties are no better N'esy Pas?
















Dave C-i
cbc should be objective and non-partisan in reporting - their polls have a record of being biased & slanted - that tell you something?


Norman McLellan
Reply to @Dave C-i: The CBC has been like this for years and every time there is a Liberal government in Ottawa they become the mouthpiece for them.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Norman McLellan: Oh So True


















Garth Peter
Liberals are finished in October. In my opinion no one with any honesty morals of ethics would vote for them. Funny the MPs are not asking for his resignation, maybe next week they will


Stephen Smith
Reply to @Garth Peter: People voted Jason Kenney in even though he's under investigation by the RCMP so does that tell you people have any honest morals or ethics? 


Alex Stock
Reply to @Stephen Smith: Not every conservative in Canada lives in Alberta. 


Stephen Smith
Reply to @Alex Stock: That's true but Alberta is touted as the Conservative Heartland of Canada so the majority of the Voters here have very little care for ethics and morals based on the types they have elected here considering all the scandals that hit the UCP in the election. 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Stephen Smith: I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir



















Chris Halford
To summarise the column. "I have no idea whether or not the Liberals will be impacted by this report. Let's see what the next polls say."


Dave Johnson
Reply to @Chris Halford: would not AS love that, does not have to debate any real issues.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Chris Halford: Methinks many would agree thats it in a nutshell N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Dave Johnson: Methinks everybody knows how much I love to debate N'esy Pas?

If you don't just Google Fundy Royal Debate


















Bob Joe
Meh, this was something we knew 7 months ago and it was hardly a big deal then with the so called 'ethics violation'. Asking the AG for a DPA in order to save Canadian jobs, thousands of them is commendable. This is just cons blowing smoke over nothing as usual.

Cons should just get wash their rear ends and get ready for October for the biggest wooping in history. 



Dave C-i
Reply to @Bob Joe: bs


Ken Sonnenberg
Reply to @Bob Joe: Pull your head out of your rear end and do some real political research. Not using socialist bias would maybe open your eyes.
David R. Amos 
Reply to @Dave C-i: I concur
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ken Sonnenberg: Methinks you should do the same N'esy Pas?

Try reading a certain comment section published just before Trudeau won his first mandate Google Fundy Royal CBC and this link should pop up

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276




















Stephen Green
The LPC supporters are circling the wagons as a result of Trudeau's failures and weakly trying to come up with feeble support for the obvious naughty stuff Trudeau has caused.


David R. Amos
Reply to @Stephen Green: Methinks we can never deny that they are Team Players and they have played this wicked game before many times N'esy Pas?





















Ted King
I see the usual LPC cheerleaders are here with the B Team story instead of the A Team story that is leading elsewhere here.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Ted King: Methinks that is par for the course in this wicked game N'esy Pas?

















Al Gribbin
If Thomas Mulcair was leader of the NDP, they would be a shoe-in for the next government. As things stand, there is no good option. None of the 3 main parties deserve to govern.


David R. Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Al Gribbin: Yea Right Methinks you forgot how much that sneaky ex liberal lawyer blew it last time N'esy Pas?



















Derrick Davy
Danny Tanker you have it all wrong, no women will vote for Trudeau after firing 2 of the best cabinet ministers he had for no reason. Actually JWR was trying to protect him from himself, now look whats happened to him, found Guilty a second time from the ethics commissioner. And a RCMP investigation!


David R. Amos
Reply to @Derrick Davy: Methinks everybody knows that there are a lot of ladies who strongly disagree with you N'esy Pas?


















Will Morgan
Canadians want a leader with social, scientific and economic policies that reflect the times we live in and not the 1800s.

Too late for the Cons this election but they would be wise to be planning their next leadership voting system that doesn't favour the far right Base.



Alex Stock
Reply to @will morgan: To be fair, the liberals do have their own slice of anti-science policy.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Alex Stock: YUP


















Ray Boychuk
Something something SNC.....boring.


Dave Johnson
Reply to @Ray Boychuk: old hat .
David R. Amos
Reply to @Dave Johnson: Not really


















Holley Hardin
Just for giggles I answered a telephone poll one time….the questions were so leading that I eventually got mad and said " no I do not support your Liberals" and hung up....
Probably put me down as undecided...



Ray Boychuk
Reply to @Holley Hardin:

Andy called me many times asking if he can count on me for my vote. I told him he was path etic and to stop calling.
Vladimir Smejkal
Reply to @Holley Hardin:
Gee, I had similar experience with a Con peddler and told him to go to hell...
 
David R. Amos
Content disabled 
Reply to @Ray Boychuk: Methinks everybody knows why Andy don't call or write me and why I do get numerous emails from the liberals because some Conservative Troll sent my info to them N'esy Pas?


















Vladimir Smejkal
Bet Andy isn't looking forward to the debates...
Regardless, Andy is a decent family man with no political and economic vision and no real prospect of ever gaining credibility as a national leader. Young Trudeau, inexperienced and a bit naive as he was at the beginning of his mandate, has been able to show Canadians that he can lead the country successfully, albeit with a few stumbles. I am quite sure that now, with a bit more experience, he'll be ready for his second, this time minority, term...



David R. Amos
Reply to @Vladimir Smejkal: Methinks if Harper's lawyer buddy David Johnston allowed their old pal Maxime Bernier to debate if would be quite a circus No doubt that lawyer would rule the roost much to the chagrin of the other lawyers on the stage N'esy Pas?



















Jerry Kleiner
Its quite amusing that when the ethics commission comes out in its report, our PM is saying "I made mistakes" When the issue was actually playing itself out, he claimed that he did nothing wrong and didnt know about the phone call.
Frankly and unfortunately, Trudeau has not been a good PM in so many areas and he really has a very hard time telling the truth.
Basically, we have a choice to try Scheer or go with a proven failure. I am going with Scheer this time and truly regret voting for Mr. Trudeau last time



David R. Amos
Reply to @jerry kleiner: Methinks you should ask Mr Scheer why I sued the Queen when he was the Speaker N'esy Pas?
  

David Mccaig
Reply to @jerry kleiner:
IF Andrew Scheer and the cons are as attactive to the Canadian voter as they claim, they should be ROCKETING AHEAD AT THE POLLS, but they're not, because Andrew Scheer is about as inspiring as and UNDERTAKER, which is what Canada would need if the cons ran the economy 



David R. Amos
Reply to @david mccaig: Methinks the question is "Is Trudeau in for another hit in the polls because of the SNC-Lavalin ethics report?"

The obvious answer is YUP N'esy Pas? 

 

Larry Langer
Reply to @jerry kleiner: Only a fool would vote against the mighty Justin


Adam Radcliffe
Reply to @jerry kleiner: With Schneer, you get Ford, Trump and Harper in the deal. Too scarey. Economically Conservative times are bad times with prorogues and all kinds of dramas all the time, prefer sunny times and a strong economy as under Trudeau. Doubt if you voted for Trudeau last time.

David R. Amos
Reply to @Larry Langer: Yea Right

David R. Amos
Reply to @Adam Radcliffe: Yea Right to you too
















George Jefferson
When I got home from work yesterday and read the Ethics story I instantly flipped to the BBC and it was the 2nd top story. If we vote this clown in we will be the laughing stock of the world and rightly so. 


David R. Amos
Reply to @George Jefferson: Welcome to the Circus  


John Dirlik
Reply to @Neil Turv:

You are right that Trudeau is a disappointment. But Harper was a disaster. And Scheer would be both.



David R. Amos
Reply to @John Dirlik: True










Stephen David
Trudeau's sunny ways are over in October.....yesterday sealed the deal.


Robert Redson
Reply to @Stephen David:
An incompetent Justice Minister was raised to godlike status by a sustained Con attack. She really did need to seek advice on the matter of a company losing the employment of thousands for the common act of bribing officials in Lybia.



David R. Amos
Reply to @Robert Redson: YUP 
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Stephen David: Methinks many political pundits would agree it seems like an eternity before the Fat Lady sings in October N'esy Pas?















David Kirby
It really does not matter. This latest twist simply confirms what we know about Trudeau and how he will be remembered 


David R. Amos
Reply to @david kirby: Methinks its not over until the Fat Lady sings two months from now N'esy Pas? 


Adam Radcliffe
Reply to @david mccaig: Don't worry David you would get many more likes if comments weren't packed with Russians.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Adam Radcliffe: True

















Rob Preston
I must say the picture says it all. Trudeau,s minions will back anything he does. But the rest of Canadians are sick of the arrogant lack of respect. Good bye and Good riddance.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Rob Preston: Methinks if they elect Harper 2.0 they will have similar regrets in short order N'esy Pas? (Perhaps folks should read my lawsuit before they disagree)


Peter Ray 
Reply to @David R. Amos:

Does it contain words with more than two syllables?


David R. Amos
Reply to @Peter Ray: YUP Federal Court File No T-1557-15
















Jaysen Blake
Not if CBC and other Trudeau funded media companies have anything to do with it.


Lloyd Jones
Reply to @Jaysen Blake:
Every government and their supporters (especially Conservative ones) likes to whine about the CBC because it tells the truth about them when they screw up or are caught doing the wrong thing. Harper had his time with the Duffy affair. Right now it's Trudeau's turn. I don't see the CBC painting lipstick on the SNC-Lavalin pig.



David R. Amos
Reply to @Lloyd Jones: Yea Right















Claire Hope
Sounds more serious than the 2 years of calling the conservative names over 1 glass of orange juice


Rowan Carster
Reply to @Claire Hope: Now that and if Harper ate or pocketed a wafer in wafergate are scandals and important issues, according to Libs this is not important.


David R. Amos
Reply to @Rowan Carster: Methinks everybody knows Harper pocketed the wafer N'esy Pas? 


Gerard Groenewegen 
Reply to @Jacob Schmeel: Not just Harper but Chretien, Mulroney and Trudeau the Elder. Each one had challenges during their time as PMs but it wasn't them personally. They had tight control of their govt, were on top of major files, worked very hard and generally everyone knew they were the Boss. Trudeau the Younger, not so much. 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Gerard Groenewegen: Methinks Trudeau the Younger should feel flattered that you and I employ the same expressions about his Clan N'esy Pas?













John Chester
If people can't see this PM is the biggest lair in government today and needs to be removed then there is no hope for these people or Canada. 


Nicolas Krinis
Reply to @John Chester: There is no hope for Canada. The most divisive, ethically challenged PM in our history.


James Holden
Reply to @Nicolas Krinis:
No. Harper still holds that title by a wide margin. Mulroney is second.



David R. Amos
Reply to @James Holden: Methinks many would agree that Sir John A. Macdonald is the all time champ in that regard N'esy Pas?


David Mccaig
Reply to @John Chester:
HOW CAN YOU TRUST these cons who STILL DENY CLIMATE CHANGE.



David R. Amos 
Reply to @david mccaig: Methinks wise folks should ask how can anyone trust a politician who claims that more taxes will fix climate change N'esy Pas?
















Garry Walton
All ethical Canadians want a Prime Minister that tells the truth.


Larry LeBlanc
Reply to @Garry Walton: Name one that ever has....


David R. Amos
Reply to @Larry LeBlanc: R.B. Bennett 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Garry Walton: Methinks they want the same from a used car salesman but if they have lick of common sense and decent memory then they would know not to expect the truth from such people N'esy Pas?














Peter Vanderkellin
The BIG hit at the polls comes in October - when selfie goes back to teaching drama part time.


Patrick Morris
Reply to @Peter Vanderkellin: At least he had a real job. Look at Scheer's, Ford's and Kenney's resumés: nothing but political pork.


David R. Amos
Reply to @patrick morris: True


Wal Wiseman
Reply to @Peter Vanderkellin: can he be trusted to do that?


David R. Amos 
Reply to @wal wiseman: Methinks at least we can always rely on the PM to make many excellent selfies before polling day N'esy Pas?











Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
Jody Wilson-Raybould thinks she is above the law Trudeau and his lawyers cannot deny that Bill Pentney's fellow judges used Rule 55 against me illegally in October of 2017 after JWR appointed her Deputy Minister to the Federal Court EH?





https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/ethics-report-1.5247595




A Prime Minister's Office drunk on its own arrogance: Robyn Urback




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Rob Burr
Why is it Trudeau will apologize tor things that happened in the past, even events before Confederation which he had nothing to do with but he can't apologize for things he does? He is the most arrogant PM ever, confirming he thinks he is above the law.


David R. Amos
Reply to @Rob Burr: Methinks Jody Wilson-Raybould thinks she is above the law as well. Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger and his lawyers cannot deny that Bill Pentney's fellow judges used Rule 55 against me illegally in October of 2017 after JWR had appointed her Deputy Minister to the Bench In Federal Court N'esy Pas?


Fred Sook
Reply to @David R. Amos:Mr. N'esy Pas is out of his mom's basement again.


Douglas Westover 
Reply to @Fred Sook: Methinks... I just pmsl :) 
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Louren Organzo Methinks the old Sook missed one N'esy Pas?
















Terry Mann
The mans arrogance has no bounds. Doesn't deserve to represent the people of Canada.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Terry Mann: Nor do any of the party leaders


Ra Shawn-Ell 
Reply to @David R. Amos: Voting has always been about holding your nose and picking the least terrible one 
 

James Holden
Reply to @Ra Shawn-Ell:
"Voting has always been about holding your nose and picking the least terrible one"
And to keep the worst one out, Canadians will re elect the Liberals.















Rod Begin
Trudeau has no ethics and has stated falsehoods numerous times, good article Robin!


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Rod Begin: Methinks the real question is does Robin have an understanding of ethics N'esy Pas?

Fred Sook
Reply to @David R. Amos: That's number two, N'esy Pas.


Douglas Westover 
Reply to @Fred Sook: You are killin' me !!!


Louren Organzo
Reply to @Fred Sook: Okay Fred but you are in danger of being muted for the same reason DRA was muted months ago ... its annoying no matter who does it.


Fred Sook
Reply to @Louren Organzo: N'esy Pas? 
 

Louren Organzo
Reply to @Fred Sook: Okay, you win, mute it is 


James Holden
Reply to @David R. Amos:
Conservatives left ethics in the rear view mirror when they were consumed by Reform.
They are still far worse than the present Government.



David R. Amos 
Reply to @James Holden: I agree

















Steve Saunders
this is the first honest article from the cbc since this all began.


Cameron David 
Reply to @Steve Saunders: Robyn must feel very isolated at the CBC... every other journalist wearing red shirts on casual friday.


Rich Reist 
Reply to @Steve Saunders: this is an opinion piece, not a news article.


David R. Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Steve Saunders: Methinks CBC still needs to learn how to tell the whole truth N'esy Pas?


Steve Saunders 
Reply to @Rich Reist: it's the first honest opinion then.


Fred Sook
Content disabled
Reply to @David R. Amos: Number three, N'esy Pas.


Douglas Westover 
Reply to @Fred Sook: Bravo !!


David R. Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Fred Sook: Methinks I should have no doubt that you are kin to the latest Lt Gov on the Rock N'esy Pas?  


Jake Devries
Content disabled
Reply to @Fred Sook: It is annoying, n'est pas?? lol












Kent Worthy
 I woke up this morning fully expecting to see a headline that said PM Trudeau resigns.

Apparently, he doesn't understand doing right from wrong.



David R. Amos
Reply to @Kent Worthy: Surely you jest


Alexei Jovi 
Reply to @David R. Amos: Surely you need to stop being a LEECH from the maritimes 
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Alexei Jovi: Methinks you should come on down and run against me and tell me off during the debates N'esy Pas? 
















Roger Walliams
and the very sad thing is that his disciples will still vote for him in october. sad


David R. Amos 
Reply to @roger walliams: Methinks that par for the course N'esy Pas?

Fred Sook
Reply to @David R. Amos: Number four, N'esy Pas.


Douglas Westover
Reply to @Fred Sook: :) 















Mark Axworthy
Trudeau has lost the moral authority to govern.


George Perry
Reply to @Mark Axworthy: One can not lose something one has never had.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @George Perry: Oh So True











 


Rob Burr
I hope the RCMP really take a deep look into this and not just sluff it off as nothing happened.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Rob Burr: Dream on

Alexei Jovi 
Reply to @David R. Amos: Awww an angry Maritimer that wants FREE MONEY and only wants IRVING and government to be the only employer 


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Alexei Jovi: Methinks it blatantly obvious to all that you don't know who I am N'esy Pas? 










Dave
Yet the Liberal panel decided there was nothing to investigate?

Come on Canada. Wake up.



David R. Amos  
Reply to @Dave: Methinks the awful truth is nobody cares N'esy Pas? 
 

Michael Dome
Reply to @David R. Amos: 17000 post in one article about snc... 'no one cares' lol












Peter Vanderkellin
I know we can't say the "L" word here - but its quite obvious that selfie was "L"ing six months ago.

He's no leader, and deserves to be tossed to the curb come October.

 
David R. Amos  
Reply to @Peter Vanderkellin: Methinks many would agree that nobody is telling the truth N'esy Pas?


Fred Sook 
Content Disabled
Reply to @David R. Amos: Number five, N'esy Pas.


Douglas Westover  
Reply to @Fred Sook: :* 


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Douglas Westover: Methinks you are talking to a ghost N'esy Pas? 













 
Daniel Leroux
Comes from a station in society where money trumps morals and ethics.


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Daniel Leroux: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger and all his political foes know the Golden Rule is "He With the Gold Makes the Rules" N'esy Pas?


Fred Sook  
Reply to @David R. Amos: Number six, N'esy Pas.


Douglas Westover 
Reply to @Fred Sook: LMAO


Fred Sook  
Reply to @Douglas Westover: Yes. He is. N'esy Pas?
 

















Peter Vanderkellin
The headline says: "He L'd" (we aren't allowed to use the "L" word here, no matter HOW true it is)

He L'd, not just once, but over and over and over again.

Selfie deserves to be cast to the curb come october.



David R. Amos  
Reply to @Peter Vanderkellin: Methinks all the party leaders need to fess up before October N'esy Pas?

Fred Sook 
Reply to @David R. Amos: Number seven, N'esy Pas.


Douglas Westover
Reply to @Fred Sook: Thank you. You just made my week :)


Fred Sook  
Reply to @Douglas Westover: You are most welcome. N'esy Pas? 












 










Stephen David
A well written and accurate article....nailed it perfectly.

 
David R. Amos  
Reply to @Stephen David: I disagree Methinks many would agree that what is far more important is the things the lady is not telling N'esy Pas? 

Fred Sook  
Reply to @David R. Amos: Number eight, N'esy Pas.










https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-snclavalin-polls-1.5247244

Is Trudeau in for another hit in the polls because of the SNC-Lavalin ethics report?

Liberal support dropped 7 points after controversy broke, and has yet to fully recover



With little more than two months to go before Canadians head to the polls, the Liberals might have thought the SNC-Lavalin affair was behind them.

So much for that.

When the story initially broke in February, the impact on the Liberals' electoral fortunes was significant — an impact the party hadn't quite recovered from even before Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion published his damning findings yesterday.


Dion found Prime Minister Justin Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by trying to influence then-justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould and get her to overrule a decision to not grant a deferred prosecution agreement to the large Quebec-based engineering firm.

It's an open question whether the Liberals will take another hit in the polls now that the SNC-Lavalin affair has made its way back into the news. It's also an open question whether they could survive another blow like that one.

In early February, before polls started registering the impact of the story first reported by the Globe and Mail, the Liberals enjoyed a four-point lead over the Conservatives. The CBC's Canada Poll Tracker estimated that the Liberals were still in a good position to win another majority government, even if reduced in size, and that they had a four-in-five chance of winning the most seats.

About three months later — after the fallout from the story, including the expulsion from caucus of former cabinet ministers Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, had largely settled — support for the Liberals had cratered by seven to eight points. The Conservatives moved ahead with a six- to seven-point lead in the polls nationwide, enough to have them knocking on the door of a majority government of their own.
Trudeau might have suffered more of a blow than the Liberal Party itself. Polls by Abacus Data found that 44 per cent of Canadians had a positive impression of the prime minister at the end of 2018. By April, that had plummeted by 12 points to just 32 per cent.

Similarly, approval ratings polls at the end of 2018 and in early 2019 put Trudeau's numbers somewhere in the mid-to-high 30s. By the end of the spring, those scores had fallen to around 30 per cent, with twice as many Canadians saying they disapproved of the prime minister as those who said they approved of him.



Liberal numbers have been trending up


The comeback has been slow — but it appeared to have hit a tipping point over the last few weeks.

On Aug. 12, the Poll Tracker put the gap between the Conservatives and the Liberals at just a single point. Leads of about six points in Ontario and 11 points in Quebec helped propel the Liberals ahead of the Conservatives in the seat projection for the first time since February.

Approval ratings had returned to the mid-30s, and a series of polls put Trudeau ahead of Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer as the person more Canadians want to see as prime minister.

The corner, it seemed, had finally been turned for the Liberals.

But will it be turned again?


Trudeau walks in Niagara-on-the-Lake Wednesday. His Liberals fell seven points behind the Conservatives in national polls in the wake of the SNC-Lavalin affair but after six months had narrowed the gap to just one point, according to the CBC's Canada Poll Tracker. (Peter Power/The Canadian Press)


It's possible that Canadians' views of the SNC-Lavalin affair are already formed and that the conclusions of the ethics commissioner won't change anything — on the one hand, confirming the opinions of those who had long ago decided Trudeau had done wrong and, on the other, failing to shift the views of those who feel the prime minister acted appropriately in the face of potential job losses.

But it's also possible the report will chip away at the benefit of the doubt some of Trudeau's supporters have been willing to give him, particularly those who have returned to the Liberals over the last few months.

SNC-Lavalin affair's resonance faded


As the spring turned into summer, voters' minds had turned away from the SNC-Lavalin affair. In March, the Angus Reid Institute found 15 per cent of Canadians listing "ethics and accountability" as one of their top two issues facing Canada. The polling firm's latest sounding put that share down to just eight per cent.

Of course, both scores put the issue well behind others like the economy, taxes, health care and the environment — issues that are more likely to be voters' focus when they finally cast their ballots two months from now.
It did take the Liberals some six months to regain about half of the support they lost in the wake of the SNC-Lavalin affair, but election campaigns have a way of shortening the time required to shift public opinion.

In the coming weeks, the polls will reveal if the Liberals will once again have some catching up to do. Even if the blow is as bad as it was in the spring, they might have enough time to absorb it. The campaign has yet to begin and, yes, campaigns actually do matter.

But instead of launching that campaign with a little optimism and a bit of momentum after a tough six months, the Liberals might now find themselves back just where they started.

About the Author



Éric Grenier
Politics and polls
Éric Grenier is a senior writer and the CBC's polls analyst. He was the founder of ThreeHundredEight.com and has written for The Globe and Mail, Huffington Post Canada, The Hill Times, Le Devoir, and L’actualité.

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