Liberal MPs on ethics committee vote down opposition motion for Mario Dion to testify on Trudeau
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David R. Amos Methinks
the liberals and the conservatives should review the letter and the
emails I got Mr Dion's predecessor Madame Dawson in 2016/17 N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos Methinks I like this liberal's style so should many other folks N'esy Pas?
"Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith broke ranks with his party and voted
with opposition MPs to call Dion before the committee — not, he said,
because he thought Dion had more to tell, but because he wanted to
challenge the commissioner's findings, which he called "flawed."
"I would like the commissioner to sit right there to answer how he got
this so completely, completely wrong," Erskine-Smith said."
Paddie Ferraro
Reply to @David R.
Amos: Ya quite the stand up guy. He’s almost as narcissistic as our
feckless leader. He was going to challenge Dion and save the day.
Would have loved to of seen this and have Mr. Dion and Conservatives
bring much to light.
Alan
Humphreys
Reply to @David R.
Amos: -Ah yes, Erskine-Smith could safely play the token Liberal
favouring the opposition motion because he knew his fellow Liberals
would not allow the truth to come out. Not even to question Dion about
how much he had "got this so completely, completely wrong," Hypocrisy,
thy name is Liberal.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Paddie Ferraro: Methinks everybody knows why I would have loved the circus N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Alan
Humphreys: Do you know about what went down between Mr Dion and I in
2014? Methinks all the parliamentarians do N'esy Pas?
Kendra
Smith
Reply to @David R.
Amos: That's a grandstanding statement to make when you know the guy
can't defend himself and you know the rest of your Liberal buddies won't
let that happen. It's akin to Justin's reiterations of conversations
with JWR to the public, even though she continuously says that's not how
it happened. They did the same for the Justice Committee, only that
time the used an MP from Edmonton who has a snowball's chance down below
of getting re-elected to take a stand to the press.
Sean Adams
Reply to @David R.
Amos: Actual that could be taken as a slanderous comment and if I were
Dion would slap him with a defamation suit.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Kendra
Smith: Methinks you should ask yourself why i sued the Crown in 2015
while Harper was the PM or why I ran for public office six time thus far
N'esy Pas?
David Smith
Reply to @David R. Amos: No, no one knows or cares who you are.
Bill Wilson
Reply to @David R.
Amos: You are joking right? You think Dion's report was inaccurate? The
clear evidence says it was completely accurate, but there is more dirt
that Dion was never able to see.
Paddie Ferraro
Reply to @David R. Amos: You ran for public office...suspect that didn’t work out so well...how far did you run?
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Smith: Methinks you do Why else would you insult me N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Bill
Wilson: Methinks you should Google my name and that of Jody Wilson
Raybould in order to see how inaccurate it truly is N'esy Pas?
David Smith
Reply to @David R.
Amos: Youthinks wrong. People with inflated senses of self worth
generally think others value them as much as they value themselves.
They, like you are wrong.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Paddie Ferraro:Methinks I went farther than you ever will N'esy Pas?
Paddie Ferraro
Reply to @David R. Amos: Okay...”run” with that.
Thomas Wright liberal transparency
Mike Johnson
Reply to @Thomas Wright: liberal transparency actually means "smoke screen"
David R. Amos
Reply to @Thomas
Wright: Methinks everybody knows that was a myth before Mr Prime
Minister Trudeau the Younger won his first mandate. In my humble opinion
the awful truth is the liberals won because Mr Selfie courted the
ladies and LBGT for support, the strategic vote people who believed his
claims about electoral reform and campaigned for him, a lot of folks who
never vote went to the polls last time because he promised to legalize
dope and most importantly many folks within his beloved peoplekind had
had enough of Mulcair and Harper and their malicious nonsense N'esy Pas?
Don Cameron If this truly was a 'nothing burger', the Liberals wouldn't hesitate to hold it up to the light of day.
Fastest way to make the scandal go away.
They are doing the opposite.
David R. Amos Reply to @Don Cameron: Surprise Surprise Surprise
David R. Amos
Reply to @Don Cameron: Methinks "nothing burgers" can cause a lot of indigestion with political pundits N'esy Pas?
Pam Sutton The 9000 job loss was fictional.
David R. Amos Reply to @Pam Sutton: YUP
Ross Culbert Reply
to @Carson Brook: Do these fictional independent experts and scholars
even know what a firm is? The work doesn't go anywhere. The engineers
jump ship to a more reputable company. Another firm buys up what is
left of this pathetic entity for pennies on the dollar. The VPs all
rake in millions for running the company into the ground and are never
heard from again and the new firm scraps the crud off and disinfects the
leftovers.
Who knows. Maybe they actually can move their head offices. Perhaps South Africa will take them.
We don't need this stain in Canada any longer.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ross Culbert: Methinks you understand the wicked game all too well N'esy Pas/
Jane Beagle Let me ruin the 'surprise'...It's a Liberal majority committee, so no.
David R. Amos Reply to @Jane Beagle:There was not surprise Methinks it is not rocket science Its political science 101 N'esy Pas?
Ross
Culbert
Reply to @david mccaig: October is fast approaching. This isn't done yet. The truth will be dug out.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ross
Culbert: Methinks the fat lady sings in October about the election but
no truths will be leaked out because everybody belongs to the Privy
Council N'esy Pas?
Steve Vaughan Surely
this is a rhetorical question. The liberals will shut this down, just
like they do with everything that will expose their corruption.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Steve Vaughan: Nope There will be no testimony to prove any corruption
Bob Gillies There is no reason to have any faith in government as long as Trudeau liberals are in control.
David R. Amos Reply to @Bob Gillies: Methinks there is no reason to have any faith in any government N'esy Pas?
Mark Jean
Reply to @Bob
Gillies: I am an experienced investigator and before I come to a
conclusion to this affair, I have a few points that I need to know:
Why are there are 3 former Supreme Court judges involved in this and why they don't seem to have a problem with this?
Scheer met with SNC (as did Harper), why does Scheer refuse to answer any questions related to this?
How come Scheer will not make a statement on his plans to deal with SNC?
Ross Culbert
Reply to @Mark Jean: Experience investigator LOL. Oh that's just silly after reading your post.
Bob Gillies
Reply to @Mark Jean:
1) The 3 FORMER Supreme Court Justices are no longer independent and 2 were under contract to represent SNC L.
2) Lobbying is NOT the issue. It is actions taken as a result of that
lobbying that is important. It is right in the EC report that Harper
rebuffed SNC L's advances, Sheer is not in government so could take no
action and in fact didn't.
3) Scheer has said many times he would leave the issue of SNC L in the hands of the DPP.....as it should be.
Bob Gillies
Reply to @Ross Culbert:
You would think an "experienced investigator" would have read the actual report. Obviously the poster didn't.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Bob Gillies: Methinks Mr Culbert prefers to insult folks and definitely doesn't like to argue facts N'esy Pas?
Randy A. Selkirk Bad political theatre being taught by an ethically challenged drama teacher !
George Bath Reply to @Randy A. Selkirk: well pancake boy hasn't much to say as usual
Kendra Smith
Reply to @george bath: Your Spud is a Dud, admit it.
David R. Amos
Reply
to @Randy A. Selkirk: We should not expect anything more from the
liberals than we did from the conservatives. Does anyone recall the
hearings in early 2015 when Harper forced the appointment of the lawyer
Joe Friday to replace the lawyer Mario Dion when he suddenly quit his
fancy job with the Commission on Public Sector Integrity? Methinks not
N'esy Pas?
Ross
Culbert
Reply to @Kendra Smith: Spud is a Dud I like it. Good one.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ross
Culbert: Methinks nobody should be surprised by your reply to Madame
Smith Perhaps you should say hey to Mr Scheer for me N'esy Pas?
Jamie Gillis How
sad the Trudeau Liberals are. How can they feel good about themselves,
or the people that support them? This is a complete disgrace"
David R. Amos
Reply to @Jamie Gillis: Methinks it is just more of the same old same old at the circus N'esy Pas?
Steve Vaughan Elizabeth May just said she thinks Trudeau should resign.
David R. Amos Reply
to @Steve Vaughan: Methinks we all should be shocked that that lawyer
shows so little respect towards Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger
N'esy Pas?
Ross
Culbert
Reply to @Steve
Vaughan: Well it's about time she spoke up. Finally getting her
priorities right. Country before power. She's been too quiet on this
serious issue for too long.
Ross
Culbert
Reply to @David R. Amos: Gees Dave, why do you spend so much time in court when you hate them so much?
Just a glutton for punishment N'est Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ross
Culbert: Methinks every lawyer, cop and politician with two clues
between their understand why I go to court and run for public office
N'esy Pas?
Karen O'Connor Still claiming that this was about jobs is just nothing but sad deflection.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Karen O'Connor: Relax and enjoy the circus
Simon Kung The Liberal Party is ethically unfit to govern.
ArtMuler Reply to @Simon Kung:
...and the Conservative Party is morally unfit to govern
Vote Green!
Spencer Yu Reply
to @ArtMuler: Anyone who votes for a small party like the Green Party
is just wasting their vote. In Canadian history, all prime ministers
have come from only the Liberal and Conservative parties (and their
predecessors). What makes you think that this time will be different?
Ross Culbert
Reply to @Spencer Yu: I agree with Art. I'm voting PPC. The main parties disgust me.
David R. Amos Reply
to @Ross Culbert: Methinks many people agree with you but will never
vote for the PPC for exactly the same reason N'esy Pas?
Sam Uekel That's Liberal 'transparency' for you. What a joke.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Sam Uekel:
Methinks everybody knows that was a myth before Mr Prime Minister
Trudeau the Younger on his first mandate. In my humble opinion the awful
truth is the liberals won because Mr selfie courted the ladies and
LBGT for support, the strategic vote people who believed his claims
about electoral reform and campaigned for him, a lot of folks who never
vote went to the polls last time because he promised to legalize dope
and most importantly many folks within his beloved peoplekind had had
enough of Mulcair and Harper and their malicious nonsense N'ess Pas?
Liberal MPs on ethics committee vote down opposition motion for Mario Dion to testify on Trudeau
Conservative MP Lisa Raitt's motion to demand CBC reporter hand over recordings defeated by committee vote
Conflict
of interest and ethics commissioner Mario Dion will not be appearing
before the House of Commons ethics committee after Liberal MPs voted
down a motion to hear him testify. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
The Liberal majority on the House of
Commons ethics committee has voted down an opposition motion to call
Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion to testify about
his report concluding that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau violated the
Conflict of Interest Act over the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Liberal MP
Steven MacKinnon said he and the other Liberal MPs sitting on the
committee today voted down the motion because, following Dion's
report and hours of testimony on the scandal over a five-week period,
there was nothing new to add to their understanding of the SNC-Lavalin
affair.
"The opposition's claim to simply wanting the facts is
contradicted by the fact that what they seek is found in the
commissioner's report," MacKinnon said.
"The
only conclusion that I, and members of this committee, can come to is
that the opposition seeks to prolong this process for reasons of
politics, reasons of partisan games, and it is for that reason … that we
will be opposing this motion."
Liberal MP Nathaniel
Erskine-Smith broke ranks with his party and voted with opposition MPs
to call Dion before the committee — not, he said, because he thought
Dion had more to tell, but because he wanted to challenge the
commissioner's findings, which he called "flawed."
"I would like
the commissioner to sit right there to answer how he got this so
completely, completely wrong," Erskine-Smith said.
Dion
had said that he would be happy to appear before the committee to
discuss his report.
Despite Erskine-Smith's vote, the Liberals' majority
on the committee saw to it that the motion to call Dion was defeated 5
to 4.
The commissioner's report, released last week, found that
Trudeau improperly pressured then-justice minister and attorney general
Jody Wilson-Raybould to give Quebec engineering giant SNC-Lavalin a
deferred prosecution deal to allow the firm to avoid a looming
corruption trial.
The company is accused of paying almost $50
million in bribes to Libyan officials between 2001 and 2011 and of
defrauding Libyan organizations of almost $130 million.
Dion must respond to Trudeau: Raitt
Conservative
Deputy Leader Lisa Raitt told the committee that, after months of
Liberals saying Dion should be trusted to carry out his investigation of
Trudeau, the ethics commissioner should be trusted to testify before
the committee.
Raitt said she wanted Dion to respond to two of
Trudeau's statements — that his government fully cooperated with Dion's
investigation and that Trudeau does not accept the conclusion that the
prime minister should have no contact at all with the attorney general
on pending decisions.
"It is owed to all of these comments that
the ethics commissioner does have the ability to come in and be able to
respond to the two things the prime minister has said on this report,"
she said.
Former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould @Puglaas tells @VassyKapelos she still believes nothing illegal happened in the SNC-Lavalin affair. #cdnpoli
Raitt also quoted interviews Wilson-Raybould and former health minister Jane Phillpott gave to CBC News Network's Power & Politics
host Vassy Kapelos. Raitt cited instances where the former Liberal
cabinet ministers suggested there was more to the SNC-Lavalin story that
needed to be heard as part of her argument for calling Dion before the
committee.
Conservative MP Peter Kent said Dion's investigation
was incomplete because he was prevented, by the clerk of the privy
council, from reviewing evidence that the clerk declared was covered
by cabinet confidence.
Kent said that because Dion's inquiry was
unable to review all evidence, MPs on the committee needed to be
briefed by the commissioner himself.
Other motions defeated
NDP
MP Charlie Angus introduced another motion asking the committee to also
call Trudeau, Finance Minister Bill Morneau and PMO adviser Ben Chin to
testify about SNC-Lavalin. The vote was defeated 6 to 3,
with Erskine-Smith siding with his party.
Bob
Zimmer, chair of the House of Commons committee on access to
information, privacy and ethics, waits to begin the committee meeting on
Wednesday. (Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press)
Angus
warned that the SNC-Lavalin affair was a "stench that hangs over
Canada's international reputation" and argued Dion's appearance was
being shut down because the Liberals don't want bad press so close to a
federal election.
"All corporations must have a respect for the
rule of law and the prime minister must have respect for the rule of
law, and what we've seen here, and what we're seeing today is that they
don't have a respect for the rule of law," Angus said. "Its about
helping the rich and powerful, and that is the corrosive power of the
one per cent. And that is what has to be called out."
“I think I have mixed emotions,” @janephilpott tells @VassyKapelos about the ethics commissioners’ findings. “My overwhelming emotion in this, is sadness that all of this had to take place from the very beginning.” Full interview coming up tonight at 5pm ET. #cdnpoli
Raitt also brought up the recently-published book Promise and Peril: Justin Trudeau in Power (HarperCollins)
by CBC senior writer Aaron Wherry. Citing passages in the book where
Trudeau discusses meeting with Wilson-Raybould, Raitt put forth a motion
asking that all recordings and notes made of the interview be turned
over to the committee to determine if Trudeau broke cabinet confidence
in speaking to Wherry.
Raitt also wanted Wherry to appear and testify before the committee.
The vote failed 8 to 2, with Angus and Erskine-Smith saying that the motion violated freedom of the press.
A 'resignation offence'
Kent,
a former journalist, voted in favour of hauling Wherry and his research
before the committee and expressed disappointment over Liberal MPs on
the committee voting against Dion's appearance.
"Our Liberal
colleagues had the chance to do the right thing and shine a little light
on (the) SNC corruption scandal by inviting the ethics commissioner to
develop a little context for that scathing report he table last week.
Instead, they joined the prime minister in attempting this cover up," he
said.
"They are complicit in his attempted obstruction of justice."
Raitt said
Trudeau should not be permitted to say he disagrees with Dion's
report without the commissioner being given a chance to respond.
Green
Party Leader Elizabeth May said Trudeau committed a "resignation
offence" by pressuring Wilson-Raybould but she said she would leave it
to the prime minister to decide whether he should resign.
"I
think today's vote at our committee meeting was sadly predictable,"
said May. "I suppose they felt one hour of Mr. Dion on national
television would harm their election chances."
Returning to court
If
SNC-Lavalin is found guilty of the charges, it will be banned from
bidding on federal government contracts for a period of 10 years.
A
deferred prosecution deal essentially would have put the charges on
hold, as long as SNC-Lavalin met a number of predetermined conditions.
Wilson-Raybould,
who accused officials in the Prime Minister's Office of applying
pressure in an effort to get her to grant the deal, did not overrule the
director of public prosecutions' decision requiring the firm to answer
the charges against it in court.
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