Thursday 29 August 2019

Ambrose disagrees with Scheer's assertion that Trudeau caved to Trump on NAFTA

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Ambrose disagrees with Scheer's assertion that Trudeau caved to Trump on NAFTA

Former Tory interim-leader says Canada made sacrifices to secure gains in NAFTA negotiation


Joan Bryden · The Canadian Press ·


Former Conservative interim Leader Rona Ambrose says that while Canada did make some concessions to get a NAFTA deal with the U.S. it also made some important gains. (Fred Chartrand/The Canadian Press)

The Conservatives' former leader doesn't agree with the current leader's assertion that Canada got taken to the cleaners by Donald Trump on the renegotiated NAFTA.

Rona Ambrose, who was interim Conservative leader after the party's 2015 election defeat, says Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did make some concessions to get a deal — particularly offering up some limited access to Canada's supply-managed dairy sector — but also made some important gains.

"I think at the end of the day, we came out doing well," she said in an interview Tuesday.


Andrew Scheer, who took over the Conservative helm from Ambrose in 2017, has called the new NAFTA a "historic humiliation" and has accused Trudeau of "capitulating" in the face of the mercurial U.S. president's threats to scrap NAFTA altogether if he didn't get a new continental trade deal favouring the United States.

Scheer raised the issue again Tuesday in a statement challenging Trudeau to take part in a leaders' debate on foreign policy scheduled for Oct. 1, less than three weeks before the Oct. 21 federal election.

"(Trudeau) has been incredibly weak on the world stage — backing down to Donald Trump on NAFTA, humiliating Canada and severely damaging relations with India and failing to stand up for Canada's interests in China," he said.
Scheer's assessment of the new NAFTA is not shared by Ambrose, who was a member of a panel Trudeau appointed to provide advice and help create a united multi-party front during the turbulent negotiations.

"I think even the most critical economic analysis shows that, in terms of any loss of GDP, it's a wash between the U.S. and Canada and Mexico gets hardest hit," she said.

One assessment by the C.D. Howe Institute found that all three countries will be worse off if the treaty is approved by their legislatures and comes into force: the U.S. economy will be 0.1 per cent smaller than it otherwise would have been, the Canadian economy 0.4 per cent smaller, and the Mexican economy 0.79 per cent smaller. The effects are primarily because of U.S. efforts to get more protections for its manufacturing sector, the analysis found.


"Yes, we gave up some access (in the dairy sector) but we have to remember what we got in return, which was Chapter 19 ... That was a big one for us, for Canada," Ambrose said.

Including labour, environmental standards


Chapter 19 lays out the trade agreement's dispute-resolution mechanism and is, in Ambrose's view, "the heart of the deal for Canada." Trump was determined to scrap it and allow American courts to judge trade disputes in future but the Trudeau government held firm that some kind of independent dispute-resolution system must be part of the deal.

"It wasn't an idle threat (from Trump)," said Ambrose. "They were extremely critical of Chapter 19 and I think right up to the last minute it was their intent to scrap it."

In addition, Ambrose said Canada scored success on having international labour standards and environmental principles entrenched in the deal.

Ambrose said Scheer's criticism of the dairy concession is consistent with his strong support for supply management. Dairy farmers were instrumental in his leadership victory over Maxime Bernier, who advocated dismantling supply management and has now left the Tories to found his own party.

'I'm not going to get sucked into the election'


Scheer, who has dubbed the new trade pact NAFTA 0.5, has also criticized the deal for extending patent protection for pharmaceuticals, which could drive up the cost of prescription drugs. He's also maintained the deal makes Canadian automakers less competitive and that it gives the U.S.
"unprecedented" say over Canadian negotiations with future potential trade partners.

"The prime minister had a once-in-a-generation opportunity to negotiate a better deal and he failed," Scheer told the House of Commons last May. "He gave Donald Trump everything the president wanted and more."

But Ambrose said she doesn't think Canada was outmanoeuvred by Trump.

"No. I think at the end of the day, there's three parties, everyone gained a little and everyone gave up a little. That's the nature of a negotiation."

Former Conservative cabinet minister James Moore, who also served on Trudeau's NAFTA advisory panel, refused to comment on Scheer's contention that Trudeau caved in to Trump.

"It's a fair question, it's a reasonable story but I'm not going to get sucked into the election," Moore said in an interview.


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Charles Knowlton
Well she's not running so she can speak the truth. Sheer won't. 


David Amos
Reply to @Charles Knowlton: Surprise Surprise Surprise  


David Amos
Reply to @Charles Knowlton: Methinks Ambrose can still recall these letter to me N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right 















Brent Grywinski
Ooops! That is not part of the Conservatives' narrative for the election, Ms. Ambrose. Andrew also forgot there were quite a few Conservatives working with Canada's delegation to get a new NAFTA deal done, Ms. Ambrose being one of them.  


David Amos
Reply to @Brent Grywinski: YUP  
















Jeffrey Wayne
Scheer cannot be trusted with the Climate or the Truth.

Good to know going into an election.


David Amos
Reply to @Jeffrey Wayne: Oh So True

















Steve Wilson
Good for Rona, I didn't think she would take a stand on this. I find myself pleasantly surprised by her integrity on this.  


David Amos
Reply to @steve wilson: Methinks the lady doth protest too muich N'esy Pas?

    
Scott McGregor
Reply to @David Amos: Are you not aware that it's n'est pas? 


Brent Grywinski
Yes, we should have given the Americans whatever they wanted to get a deal done. Isn't that what Mr. Harper said when discussions were going on? Just roll over for Trump?  

David Amos

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Reply to @Brent Grywinski: YUP

David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Oh My My

David Amos 
Reply to @Brent Grywinski: Methinks its very strange that one is not permitted to agree with you with a simple "YUP" N'esy Pas? 















 
Graham Greene
The person who 'should' be leading the CPC . . . . . .

Instead, they opted for the '13th round' pick . . .

Richard O'Mara 
Reply to @Graham Greene: Wasn't that 13th out of 13th???? …. the thrill of winning

David Amos  
Reply to @Richard O'Mara: Welcome to the Circus 














 
Graham Greene
May I be the first to toss her name into the hat . . .

Rona Ambrose for CPC leadership in 2020!!  

David Amos  
Reply to @Graham Greene: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on Ambrose ever coming back to parliament N'esy Pas?

Scott McGregor
Reply to @David Amos: Why do people end posts with the misspelled "N'esy Pas"?

Louren Organzo 
Reply to @Scott McGregor: Mute is a wonderful thing 

 
Graham MacNab
Reply to @Scott McGregor: Only him. Not sure why really. When he begins "Methinks"... it's ending up " N'esy Pas". Shrugs. Whatever floats a persons boat i say.

David Amos  
Reply to @Graham MacNab: I concur

David Amos   
Reply to @Louren Organzo: Methinks that button also works against you as well N'esy Pas?

Paul Pederson
Reply to @Scott McGregor: hit mute on it. Makes this site more enjoyable. 


















 
Glen Parrott
Doesn't get more surgical than that.

The past CPC leader, very highly respected within the party and an active participant in the NAFTA 2.0 negotiations....she comes right out and says Scheer is blowing smoke...his allegations are without merit.

It tells you EXACTLY the amount of credibility we should assign to the promises, accusations and policies of Andrew Scheer....ZERO.

Glen Parrott
Formerly known as The Bird

David Amos
Reply to @Glen Parrott: I concur kind sorta

Marcel Larocque
Reply to @David Amos:

I'm way, way ahead of you on that front. 
















 
Bud Vallee
Armchair quarterback. Can't imagine the mess we would have been in had Scheer been involved.

David Amos
Reply to @Bud Vallee: Nor I 














 
Aaron Jones
Oooooo that must be so embarrassing Scheer. Imagine what an embarrassment he will be if he is elected.

David Amos
Reply to @Aaron Jones: Methinks many shudder to think of who is worse Trudeau or Scheer N'esy Pas? 














 
Jeffrey Wayne
This is just another issue that destroys Scheers credibility.

Hard to believe he wants to be PM when he cannot even be honest to a point where his own party believes him.

Ambrose should have been the real candidate.

Al Kennedy
Reply to @Jeffrey Wayne:
"Ambrose was a member of a panel Prime Minister Justin Trudeau asked to provide advice and help create a united multi-party front during negotiations with the mercurial U.S. president" What do you think she would say?
Yes, Trudeau and I caved to Trump on NAFTA. But I agree with you on that she should have been the real candidate. Scheer is a dud.

David Amos
Reply to @Al Kennedy: Too Too Funny 














 
Norm Walters
It's about time Ambrose spoke up. Scheer has been making these comments for some time disrespecting the advice Ambrose provided on NAFTA. Good for her. The Conservatives have become too right wing for her balanced approach. Their loss

David Amos
Reply to @Norm Walters: Cry me a river 

 
Jeffrey Wayne
Scheer will say anything to get elected - regardless of the facts.

Reminds me of the orange fella to the south actually.

David Amos
Reply to @Jeffrey Wayne: I concur
 
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