Wednesday 14 August 2019

NB Power asks EUB to reconsider smart meters

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Subject: RE: Third Rate Design Stakeholder Meeting Methinks Dave Young
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my comments this morning N'esy Pas Mr Higgs?
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Subject: Re: Third Rate Design Stakeholder Meeting Methinks Dave Young
and his buddy John Herron should go figure why their CBC pals deleted
my comments this morning N'esy Pas Mr Higgs?

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/08/nb-power-asks-eub-to-reconsider-smart.html


Wednesday, 14 August 2019
NB Power asks EUB to reconsider smart meters

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies


David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others Methinks
every lawyer in NB knows that info was sourced from the PUBLIC RECORDS
of the EUB N'esy Pas?

 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/08/nb-power-asks-eub-to-reconsider-smart.html

#cdnpoli #nbpoli

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meter-application-eub-1.5156867



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/smart-meters-nb-power-energy-utilities-board-1.5245288#



NB Power asks EUB to reconsider smart meters


75 Comments last night and a lot less this morning Commenting is now
closed for this story.



David R. Amos
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Methinks its rather obvious why I made a comment within every thread N'esy Pas?





David R. Amos
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Methinks the crickets are continuing to tell me that nobody truly
cares about NB Power's secret deals involving AMI etc N'esy Pas?


 etc etc etc



https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies





Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks every lawyer in NB knows that info was sourced from the PUBLIC RECORDS of the EUB N'esy Pas? 

 https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/08/nb-power-asks-eub-to-reconsider-smart.html







 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meter-application-eub-1.5156867






Go Figure


Read all the comments here first

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/smart-meters-nb-power-1.4973785


NB Power launches PR campaign for revived smart meter plan

The utility plans to reintroduce its smart meter plan for approval later this year

Hadeel Ibrahim · CBC News · Posted: Jan 10, 2019 7:19 PM AT 




Then read the comments you could not see


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/nb-power-reviving-vexed-smart-meter.html 


Friday, 31 May 2019


NB Power reviving vexed smart meter plan less than a year after EUB rejection

https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies





Replying to and 48 others
Methinks Minister Mikey Holland's ears are burning right now or my name ain't "Just Dave" Anyone can Google "Harper and Bankers" if they don't get my jokes about the circus in Fredericton and Ottawa N'esy Pas? 


https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/nb-power-reviving-vexed-smart-meter.html






 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meter-application-eub-1.5156867




NB Power reviving vexed smart meter plan less than a year after EUB rejection


 

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Mark (Junkman) George
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Screwed enough money out of us to gamble $13 million, and now looking for more?


David Amos
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Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Methinks you can't say that I didn't warn you N'esy Pas?



http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/10/nb-power-payola-and-sneaky-kris-austin.html 

 

Wednesday, 18 October 2017


NB Power payola and sneaky Kris Austin and his buddies in PANB


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Subject: Automatic reply: EXT -  Re The news NB Power payola and a little Deja Vu about my indignation towards Gaëtan Thomas and Ed Barrett and their meeting with Kris Austin and PANB seven years ago
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:11:54 -0400
Subject: Re The news NB Power payola and a little Deja Vu about my indignation towards Gaëtan Thomas and Ed Barrett and their meeting with Kris Austin and PANB seven years ago
To: gathomas@nbpower.com, Jack.Keir@gnb.ca, brian.gallant@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca, oldmaison@yahoo.com, andre@jafaust.com, darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca, Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, nmoore nmoore@bellmedia.ca, jeremy.keefe@globalnews.ca, jennifer.warren@cibc.com,  Frank.McKenna@td.com,  len.hoyt@mcinnescooper.com, greg.byrne@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com, jfurey@nbpower.com, wharrison@nbpower.com

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-severance-david-hay-1.4357625


$1.7M in severance paid to former NB Power CEO David Hay

Hay did not file objection to having amount released

By Robert Jones, Posted: Oct 17, 2017 6:00 AM AT



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/smart-meters-nb-power-energy-utilities-board-1.5245288#



NB Power asks EUB to reconsider smart meters




75 Comments last night and a lot less this morning
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David R. Amos
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Methinks its rather obvious why I made a comment within every thread N'esy Pas?
















David R. Amos
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Methinks the crickets are continuing to tell me that nobody truly cares about NB Power's secret deals involving AMI etc N'esy Pas?


David R. Amos
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Reply to @David R. Amos: The Kings County Record June 22, 2004

Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

By Erin Hatfield

"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.

The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat.

Staying true to party platforms for the most part, candidates responded to questions about the gun registry, same sex marriage, the exodus of young people from the Maritimes and regulated gas prices. Herron and Moore were clear competitors,constantly challenging each other on their answers and criticizing eachothers’ party leaders. Hanratty flew under the radar, giving short, concise responses to the questions while Amos provided some food for thought and a bit of comic relief with quirky answers. "I was raised with a gun," Amos said in response to the question of thenational gun registry. "Nobody's getting mine and I'm not paying 10 cents for it."




David R. Amos

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Reply to @David R. Amos: Cutline – David Amos, independent candidate in Fundy, with some of his favourite possessions—motorcycles.

McKnight/KCR

The Unconventional Candidate

David Amos Isn’t Campaigning For Your Vote, But….

By Gisele McKnight

FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos.

The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada.

One has only to be at least 18, a Canadian citizen and not be in jail to meet Elections Canada requirements.

When it came time to launch his political crusade, Amos chose his favourite place to do so—Fundy.

Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians.

"I’ve become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

The journey that eventually led Amos to politics began in Sussex in 1987. He woke up one morning disillusioned with life and decided he needed to change his life.

"I lost my faith in mankind," he said. "People go through that sometimes in midlife."

So Amos, who’d lived in Sussex since 1973, closed his Four Corners motorcycle shop, paid his bills and hit the road with Annie, his 1952 Panhead motorcycle.

"Annie and I rode around for awhile (three years, to be exact) experiencing the milk of human kindness," he said. "This is how you renew your faith in mankind – you help anyone you can, you never ask for anything, but you take what they offer."


David R. Amos
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Reply to @David R. Amos: For those three years, they offered food, a place to sleep, odd jobs and conversation all over North America.

Since he and Annie stopped wandering, he has married, fathered a son and a daughter and become a house-husband – Mr. Mom, as he calls himself.

He also describes himself in far more colourful terms—a motorcyclist rather than a biker, a "fun-loving, free-thinking, pig-headed individual," a "pissed-off Maritimer" rather than an activist, a proud Canadian and a "wild colonial boy."

Ironically, the man who is running for office has never voted in his life.

"But I have no right to criticize unless I offer my name," he said. "It’s alright to ***** in the kitchen, but can you walk the walk?"

Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.

"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."

And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.

"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."



David R. Amos
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Reply to @David R. Amos: "What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.

Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.

"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."

Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.

"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"



David R. Amos
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Reply to @David R. Amos: Why block just part of this thread?
















David R. Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise


David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: Methinks Mr Higgs and Mr Holland are well aware that the long delayed 357 Matter within the EUB should be heard first N'esy Pas?














David R. Amos
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Transcript
New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board
IN THE MATTER OF an application by New Brunswick Power 7 Corporation for approval of the schedules of the rates for the fiscal year commencing April 1, 2018. held at the Delta Hotel, Saint John, New Brunswick, on February 9th 2018.

Page 601
VICE-CHAIRMAN: I was a bit surprised when I heard this morning and yesterday that you are entering into a contract at the end of February and is that with respect to the purchase of the smart meters?
MS. CLARK: That's correct.
VICE-CHAIRMAN: So how can you enter into a contract without the firm approval of this Board, if we are going to approve or not the AMI? How prudent is that?
MS. CLARK: So we are at the end stages of the contract in terms of just the final terms and conditions, but we have been very clear that we -- with the vendor -- and they recognize that, because we also have Nova Scotia Power, who is part of our consortium, who also needs Board approval. So should we not get -- this is conditional on EUB approval. So should we not get EUB approval, the contract would not proceed.



David R. Amos 
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Reply to @David R. Amos: Transcript continued

VICE-CHAIRMAN: Now there was discussion yesterday, I think it was with Mr. Stoll regarding time of use and time based pricing, and so I went through the evidence this morning, and in your main evidence, and I think one of the
Page 602
objective of having the AMI going forward to a time of use price structure -- rate structure. So am I understanding that correctly
MS. CLARK: That is correct. And in the evidence, we did answer an interrogatory on that and you will see that AMI is an enabler for time varying rates in the Energy Smart NB Plan. And we did have time varying rates included in our investment rationale. We took it out, because we couldn't -- we couldn't pinpoint without more detail as to what those time varying rates may be and the benefit of those, so we took them out of the investment rationale at this point in time, but certainly it's something that we are looking at in the future.



David R. Amos 
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Reply to @David R. Amos: Transcript continued

VICE-CHAIRMAN: So the fundamental question here is that the Board should heard -- or hear Matter 357 before approving the AMI? So if we don't approve time of use, that basically what will happen with your AMI, I mean it's -- if we don't approve the time of use, which we are going to hear next year, how can we proceed in approving the AMI before we look at the rate structure?
MS. CLARK: As we have talked about in our investment rationale, there are a number of other benefits to both the customer and to the utility over and above time varying rates that we believe are important for the
Page 603
utility and for the movement forward of our Energy Smart New Brunswick plan. Many of those benefits accrue to the customer. And many of those benefits accrue to the utility and ultimately the customer. So even if we were not to move in the direction of time varying rates, we believe that the investment rationale supports the AMI installation based on the other investment -- or based on the other benefits that it provides. 


Ben Haroldson
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Reply to @David R. Amos: Thank you. Too bad more NBers didn't have access to what is going on. Most shrug their shoulders and carry on. Keep on em.


David R. Amos 
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Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Methinks every lawyer in NB knows that info was sourced from the PUBLIC RECORDS of the EUB N'esy Pas?

















Roy Kirk
If NBP really wants to do this, start small. Put the meters on large industrial customers, charge them cost-recovery based time-of-use rates, and cut out their subsidies. That will give you the biggest bang for the buck in terms of reduced energy use.
Run that program for 2 terms of government. If it survives the political push back, then roll it out to commercial customers. Run that for two more terms of govt, then maybe apply it to residential customers.



David R. Amos  
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Dream on

















Dallas McQuarrie
So called 'smart meters'won't safe anybody a dime. Contrary to the nonsense being put forward by NB Power, smart meters will drive up public health costs. The increasing problems associated with electromagnetic radiation have been documented and more than 40 countries have halted the technology until the full health impacts are known. NB power is ignoring the obvious health problems, and it will be ratepayers who pick up the tab. Shame on NB Power for not being truthful, and shame on the CBC for not investigating the health damages from this technology that have been well documented. Indeed, Ontario health professionals and scientists are calling for a halt to the expansion of this technology - and here's a link to what those professionals are saying (I do wish the CBC would not blindly accept whatever codswallop NB power spouts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxXgGauTdy0  



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Dallas McQuarrie: Methinks I should ask you if you supported my friend Roger Richard and his concerns about Smart Meters during the last election while the Green Party fans attacked him N'esy Pas? 













ROB CLARK
Reality:
1.Real time reporting of energy consumption by smart meters will enable NBPower to activate time of day billing(customer paying higher rates in early morning and supper time slots)

2.Human meter readers will become unemployed.

3.All other reasons are window dressing......



David R. Amos
Reply to @ROB CLARK: Methinks you are not closely related to Madame Clark of NB Power or the "Al Clark" dude who attacked me yesterday N'esy Pas? 
















Ray Bungay
Maybe the board should also consider the health issues Smart Meters have been proven to case, One state in the US, Pennsylvania showed many health effects and some residents in Nova Scotia want them gone as well. Must be Mr Thomas’s last stand, such as:

Smart Meter Health Effects

In nearly every community around the world where wireless smart meters have been installed, a percentage of residents complain of health effects that started after installation. The residents often did not know that smart meters had been installed. The most common symptoms are:

Headaches
Insomnia
Fatigue
Tinnitus
Heart arrhythmia/palpitations
Decreased immune function
Irritability
Decreased cognitive function

The research certainly backs up the link between these symptoms and EMF pollution. However, there seems to be something in particular about a wireless smart grid and smart meter that is causing a significant decrease in human health. It is most likely the erratic, high intensity pulses that wireless smart meters create. Some meters pulse up to 190,000 times per day (essentially constant pulsing). These pulses travel nearly 2 miles and can conduct along all copper electrical wiring within a home and community. The pulses are then re-radiated into the living environment, which causes the above symptoms.

https://www.emfanalysis.com/smart-meter-health-effects/ 



Eric Plexe
Reply to @Ray Bungay: Can you cite a source that supports your claims?


David R. Amos
Reply to @Ray Bungay: True

David R. Amos
Reply to @Eric Plexe: Methinks you should talk to Roger Richard if you don't wish to download his evidence from the EUB N'esy Pas?
















Robert Buck
 Let me if I got this right. Spend 92 million and save 31 million. I will never get this government math.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Robert Buck: Methinks that is why they have hired lots of well paid consultants in order to convince us to ignore the obvious N'esy Pas?

















 
Junkman George 
Still no update on the snake oil we bought in Florida? I thought not.


Debi Mcdonald 
Reply to @Junkman George: There should be a full inquiry into that scheme and the higgs govt should be demanding full accountable updates.


David R. Amos
Reply to @Junkman George: Methinks you may enjoy a little Deja Vu N'esy Pas?

You said the following and I agreed

"The only thing "smart" would be to fire the total management of NB Hydro and find some folks with simple common sense to replace them."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/smart-meters-nb-power-1.4973785



NB Power asks EUB to reconsider smart meters

In new business plan, utility says smart meters will save ratepayers an additional $31 million


NB Power is asking for a second chance for smart meters and has submitted a new business plan to the Energy and Utilities Board to help make the case.

The utility's application asks for approval of the $92-million smart-meter project that was denied last year.

The EUB, which must approve the spending, previously said the cost of installing and operating the meters outweighed the benefit to the public.


But the utility has spent the last 12 months putting dollar figures on benefits that were not quantified in the previous application, said Lori Clark, NB Power's senior vice-president operations.
She said NB Power is saying the meters will save New Brunswick ratepayers $31 million more than previously calculated over the next 15 years, the lifespan of the meters.

The utility's original submission had the costs outweighing the benefits by around $1 million. But during the hearings in February 2018, NB Power changed its calculations to show the budget would break even over the life of the project.

The EUB was not convinced that would be the case.

"We've taken some time and used other consultants … that work in other jurisdictions to help quantify some of those benefits" Clark said.

The meters can calculate energy usage more accurately, transmit it wirelessly to the utility and provide real-time readings to the customers and NB Power, Clark said. She said 80 per cent of Canadian meters are smart.


Lori Clark, NB Power's senior vice-president of operations, says the utility considers smart meters essential. (NB Power/Submitted)

The $31 million in additional savings come from quicker restoration, since the utility won't have to rely on customers to report outages, alerts to the customer when their usage is high and remote connections and disconnections for renters.

"When we don't have to roll out trucks, [there is] obviously less CO2 that we're emitting as well," she said. "So it's good for the environment and good for our customers."

Some people opposed to the meters expressed health concerns because of the wireless capabilities of the meters, but the EUB was convinced there is no public-health risk.
Clark said approval of the project is "essential for us."

"It's really important that we get this fundamental building block in place so we can continue with the smart grid," she said.

When the EUB denied the first application, board members did not deter the utility from applying again but with a more persuasive business plan.

Proving a good business case


Public intervener Heather Black previously opposed NB Power's smart meter plan. She said this time around she will be scrutinizing the utility's business plan just as closely. However, she said the dollar figure on savings is a good sign.

"At first blush, having a proposal that NB Power says will have a net benefit of $31 million is a better proposal to submit to the board than one that says it will break even," she said.


Public intervener Heather Black previously opposed NB Power's smart meter application in an EUB hearing in Saint John. (CBC)

"But that proposal still has to be subjected to, you know, testing and evaluation and review by all the interveners and the board."

The EUB and NB Power will meet to set a schedule on Aug. 26, and the final oral hearing will be in January of next year, Black said.

"After the oral hearing, then the board takes its decision, which usually takes several weeks," Black said. "And so it will probably be the late winter before before the board comes to a decision."


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