David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks some folks are beginning to understand why I call the actions of our questionable governments merely a circus N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/04/higgs-floats-idea-of-moving-courthouse.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-courthouse-centennial-building-1.5098463
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David R. Amos
Methinks some folks are beginning to understand why I call the actions of our questionable governments merely a circus N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: Gee All I hear is crickets
Matt Steele
Sounds like a good idea as the Centennial Building is already sitting empty , so why build a new building when the govt. already owns the Centennial Building . Although the Centennial Building looks to be a very large building just for a Courthouse . N.B. only has around a 750, 000 people ; and one of the oldest populations in Canada . Does a Province this small really need these huge Courthouses ?
Marc Martin
Reply to @Matt
Steele: You do realize that the renovation plan for the centennial
building was cancelled by Higgs right ? Loose the blue glasses...
David R. Amos
Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks in return you should tell your SANB buddy to quit chugging the Red Kool Aid N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
Reply to @David R. Amos: Someone yanked you chain again Davis ?
David R. Amos
Marc Martin
Reply to @David R. Amos: Someone yanked you chain again Davis ?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: YOU
Evan Day
So was the Premier not do his homework when this project was cancelled? At that time, he seemed to suggest that there was no need for a new court house - now all of a sudden he understands that there is? If this idea goes ahead, I can't wait to see how much it's going to cost. There's no way that stopping the first project, undoing part of that work, paying the associated penalties, redoing the designs to now put the court in the remaining building, and actually carrying out the redesign will cost less than if the initial project had just proceeded as planned. No. Way.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Evan Day:
Methinks Mr Higgs did not secure a government mandate based on common
sense. It was the PANB that supports him that goes on an on about that
N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Methinks Mr Higgs forgot about the asbestos N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @David R. Amos: Been all cleared out . Where ye been ?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Clearly not in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
BTW when the Centennial Building was first opened my Father has a corner
office on the fifth floor Do you recall what his job was and who my
Mother married after he died?
Murry Brown
Reply to @David R. Amos: ... That only gets into your lungs when you breathe... As long as you hold your breath you'll be fine.
Murry Brown
Reply to @David R. Amos: ... That only gets into your lungs when you breathe... As long as you hold your breath you'll be fine.
Al Clark
Maybe hired shawn G or bernie L as consultants??
David R. Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks he has had Bernie in his corner all along N'esy Pas?
Trevis L. Kingston
Instead
of new buildings to accommodate court proceedings that are backlogged
because of 9 to 5 workdays... I would suggest Night Courts to facilitate
expediency to justice.
Many New Brunswickers work "shift work"... why not Judges and lawyers as well?
By using courts 24/6... justice will not only be seen to be done... but quicker as well.
And by utilizing court spaces in a "shift" manner... less NEW courtroom buildings will be needed.
Violent and criminal cases in the day... other less demanding cases at night.
Many New Brunswickers work "shift work"... why not Judges and lawyers as well?
By using courts 24/6... justice will not only be seen to be done... but quicker as well.
And by utilizing court spaces in a "shift" manner... less NEW courtroom buildings will be needed.
Violent and criminal cases in the day... other less demanding cases at night.
Rosco holt
Reply to @James Vander:
And yet Higgs hired his Irving colleagues has consultants. Too bad that belt tightening doesn't apply to political appointments.
And yet Higgs hired his Irving colleagues has consultants. Too bad that belt tightening doesn't apply to political appointments.
Harold Benson
Reply to @Rosco holt: He knows most of the voters are numified.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Harold Benson: "He knows most of the voters are numified"
Methinks Sam should have told you that everybody knows that . N'esy Pas?
Higgs floats idea of moving courthouse into vacant Centennial Building
Idea comes just months after government scrapped $76M Centennial refurbishment and plans for new courthouse
Premier Blaine Higgs is floating a new
fix for Fredericton's aging courthouse: moving it into the vacant
Centennial Building a few blocks away.
The hints come four months after Higgs's government scrapped a $76 million plan to refurbish the building to house government offices and build a brand-new courthouse attached to it.
Higgs now says the empty Centennial structure itself could house the courthouse, which would give the courts a much-needed new home while avoiding the cost of new construction.
"Can [Centennial] be used as a courthouse, as opposed to building a whole new building?" he said in a recent interview with CBC News.
In December the new Progressive Conservative government cancelled several major infrastructure projects worth more than $200 million in a bid to reduce spending and long-term debt.
In
a speech in Saint John on April 5, Higgs described discussions with
officials about the two-pronged project announced by the previous
Liberal government in 2017.
"We're building a new building behind the building, the Centennial Building. Why would we do that?"
The Centennial Building "is 150,000 square feet," Higgs said. "Well, how big does this [courthouse] need to be? About 150,000 square feet. Well, there's a start."
The
Justice Building on Queen Street used to be a teachers college but now
houses provincial court, the Court of Queen's Bench and Court of Appeal. (CBC)
He
told the luncheon crowd that the province did not need more office
space for government but that officials had gone "back to the drawing
board" with Justice Department officials "to talk about what is needed
in a courthouse."
The Fredericton courthouse, built in 1930, houses local provincial court and Court of Queen's Bench courtrooms as well as the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.
It lacks secure separate entrances to keep the public, accused persons and judges away from each other — a hallmark of modern justice buildings, including recently built courthouses in Saint John and Moncton.
The Court of Appeal also lacks simultaneous translation facilities.
Former Court of Queen's Bench Chief Justice David Smith said when he retired in March that the building needs replacing.
"I don't think there's any doubt about that."
One wing of the Centennial Building had already been demolished to make room for the new building when the PCs took power last fall. The decision to cancel the project left a large, unsightly vacant site in the heart of Fredericton.
The organization representing lawyers in the province says it's encouraged by Higgs's comments and by meetings with Justice Minister Andrea Anderson-Mason.
"We've have some very productive discussions and we're optimistic that a solution will be found fairly shortly," said Justin Robichaud, president of the Canadian Bar Association's New Brunswick chapter.
"Everyone who has visited the current Fredericton courthouse agrees that the current situation isn't viable and that a new location is required," he said.
"Whether it's the model approved by the former government or whether there are other options that would be viable is something that's still up for discussion."
The Department of Transportation and Infrastructure did not have any immediate comment on Higgs's remarks or how long it would take for a decision on using the Centennial Building. There is no funding in this year's capital budget for the work.
The hints come four months after Higgs's government scrapped a $76 million plan to refurbish the building to house government offices and build a brand-new courthouse attached to it.
Higgs now says the empty Centennial structure itself could house the courthouse, which would give the courts a much-needed new home while avoiding the cost of new construction.
"Can [Centennial] be used as a courthouse, as opposed to building a whole new building?" he said in a recent interview with CBC News.
In December the new Progressive Conservative government cancelled several major infrastructure projects worth more than $200 million in a bid to reduce spending and long-term debt.
"We're building a new building behind the building, the Centennial Building. Why would we do that?"
The Centennial Building "is 150,000 square feet," Higgs said. "Well, how big does this [courthouse] need to be? About 150,000 square feet. Well, there's a start."
The Fredericton courthouse, built in 1930, houses local provincial court and Court of Queen's Bench courtrooms as well as the New Brunswick Court of Appeal.
It lacks secure separate entrances to keep the public, accused persons and judges away from each other — a hallmark of modern justice buildings, including recently built courthouses in Saint John and Moncton.
The Court of Appeal also lacks simultaneous translation facilities.
Former Court of Queen's Bench Chief Justice David Smith said when he retired in March that the building needs replacing.
"I don't think there's any doubt about that."
One wing of the Centennial Building had already been demolished to make room for the new building when the PCs took power last fall. The decision to cancel the project left a large, unsightly vacant site in the heart of Fredericton.
Lawyers group encouraged
The organization representing lawyers in the province says it's encouraged by Higgs's comments and by meetings with Justice Minister Andrea Anderson-Mason.
"We've have some very productive discussions and we're optimistic that a solution will be found fairly shortly," said Justin Robichaud, president of the Canadian Bar Association's New Brunswick chapter.
"Everyone who has visited the current Fredericton courthouse agrees that the current situation isn't viable and that a new location is required," he said.
"Whether it's the model approved by the former government or whether there are other options that would be viable is something that's still up for discussion."
The Department of Transportation and Infrastructure did not have any immediate comment on Higgs's remarks or how long it would take for a decision on using the Centennial Building. There is no funding in this year's capital budget for the work.
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