Thursday 24 October 2024

Outgoing justice minister in contempt, says Court of Appeal

 

Outgoing justice minister in contempt, says Court of Appeal

'I have never seen anything like this,' said Justice Ernest Drapeau during hearing

The New Brunswick Court of Appeal chastised the outgoing minister of justice Tuesday, saying Ted Flemming was in contempt of court in a case concerning courthouses on the Acadian Peninsula.

In April, a Court of King's Bench justice ruled in favour of a group of Acadian Peninsula mayors and cancelled the closure of courthouses in Caraquet and Tracadie.

The Blaine Higgs government was asked to come up with a new plan that would take into account the impact of the closures on the francophone community in the that region.

The government appealed that decision and a hearing took place Tuesday afternoon.

Situation is 'striking,' judge says

Justice Ernest Drapeau said he was surprised to see that Flemming had still not complied with the April judgment or requested a stay, pending the appeal.

"In a case like this, without a suspension order, the minister is effectively in contempt of the decision," said Drapeau, speaking in French.

He described the situation as "striking."

"I have been a judge on the Court of Appeal for over 25 years, I have never seen anything like this," said Drapeau.

"We ... are faced with a situation where the New Brunswick justice minister wants an appeal heard, when he has failed to comply with the decision he wants to appeal."

Drapeau and the other appeal judges — Kathleen Quigg and Denise LeBlanc — decided to suspend the appeal hearing until the minister of justice either complies with the Court of King's Bench's decision or obtains a stay.

Drapeau noted that in Monday's election, Flemming lost his seat and his party was ousted from government.

He said the appeal could be irrelevant if the next justice minister decides to comply with the Court of King's Bench decision.

Drapeau clarified that the suspension of the appeal was not based on the merits of the case.

Caraquet mayor hopeful

The suspension was welcomed by the Acadian Peninsula Forum of Mayors.

"That might be a perfect opportunity," said the forum's president, Bernard Thériault, mayor of Caraquet.

Speaking to CBC, Thériault said Minister Flemming had been unwilling to meet with them.

An older bald man with glasses is standing in a room with a door behind him. Caraquet Mayor Bernard Thériault, part of a group of mayors who took the case to court, is hopeful a Holt government will reopen courthouses in Caraquet and Tracadie. (Mario Landry/Radio-Canada)

They're hopeful they'll get a chance to meet with a new Liberal minister before too long, he said.

"We want our tribunals back."

In a news release, the mayors said they ready are collaborate to propose innovative, useful solutions.

The region used to be home to the only unilingual francophone judicial unit in the province.

Since the courts closed three years ago, people from the Acadian Peninsula have had to travel to Bathurst for court, where they account for about 60 per cent of the caseload, said Thériault.

Probation agents, social services and RCMP investigations are also affected, he said, adding that a significant portion of Acadian Peninsula police officers are always tied up travelling to and from Bathurst for court.

The closures took place without any consultation to consider the impact on protection of linguistic minority rights, said Thériault. 

Despite being a Liberal supporter, Thériault said partisan politics has nothing to do with his position on this issue.

The mayors group will be just as aggressive with the Liberal government to get their courthouses back, he said.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Jennifer Sweet has been telling the stories of New Brunswickers for over 20 years. She is originally from Bathurst, got her journalism degree from Carleton University and is based in Fredericton. She can be reached at 451-4176 or jennifer.sweet@cbc.ca.

with files from Pascal Raiche-Nogue, Radio-Canada

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David Amos
Too Too Funny


David Amos
"Drapeau and the other appeal judges — Kathleen Quigg and Denise LeBlanc — decided to suspend the appeal hearing until the minister of justice either complies with the Court of King's Bench's decision or obtains a stay.

Drapeau noted that in Monday's election, Flemming lost his seat and his party was ousted from government.

He said the appeal could be irrelevant if the next justice minister decides to comply with the Court of King's Bench decision.

Drapeau clarified that the suspension of the appeal was not based on the merits of the case."

Need I say this gonna be fun to deal with?



David Amos
Flemming is no longer an elected MLA but he remains the Attorney General until November

Frank Loomer
Well, Ted Flemming is no longer an elected MLA, and closures reversed. End of problem.

David Amos
Nope
 
 
 
Fred Emmersen Turner 
the government should help people 
 
Rosco holt
Reply to Fred Emmersen Turner
Of course government should be there for all they are suppose to represent not just the few like is often the case. 
 
David Amos
Reply to Fred Emmersen Turner
Should is a big word 
 
 
 
Matt Steele 
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The St. Stephen , and Grand Manan , Court Houses were closed by Brian Gallant's Liberals in 2015 .Very typical of the contempt generally displayed by the Brian Gallant Liberal government to most of New Brunswick’s English population ,and anyone else that did not agree with Gallant and his advisors. Gallant's defeat after ONLY ONE TERM in office was a small bit of vindication.
 
MR Cain  
Reply to Matt Steele 
Between 1992 and 2015, 21 courthouses closed; cry me a river. 
 
Rosco holt 
Reply to Matt Steele 
What is the travel distance time between St.Stephan, Grand Manan and ST.john?

Caraquet to Bathurst is 1h 30 approx.. Tracadie to Bathurst more than 2H.

Ronald McCallum
Reply to Rosco holt
Since Matt Steele had not bother to responding, I googled the question, and the answer is 1 hour and 11 minutes.
 
David Amos
Reply to Ronald McCallum
Perhaps folks on Grand Manan may disagree
 
 
 
Vladamir Smirnoff  
And it begins…let’s rack up the credit card and create a new wedge issue.

It’s good to close court houses in the south but not in the north.

MR Cain  
Reply to Vladamir Smirnoff  
Higgs didn't care then, and doesn't care now. 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to Vladamir Smirnoff 
Holt hasn't even taken office yet , and it looks like she will be a ONE term wonder , just like Graham and Gallant .
 
Al Clark 
Reply to Matt Steele 
ah the great predictor. What happened monday night? ;-) 
 
David Amos
Reply to Al Clark  
Do tell why you didn't vote for me in order to do your part slaying the dragon 
 
 
 
Gregory Wulf 
Flemming should have first asked the good people of New Brunswick to commit fewer crimes.
 
David Amos
Reply to Gregory Wulf
If he did that his fellow lawyers would lose money  
 
 
Gregory Wulf  
Finite resources to service infinite demand.
 
 
Al Clark
Other than this and fixing a few trials for facebook docs what did he do exactly for the million we paid him????
 
 
Allan Marven
Well, what happens when you are in contemt of court? I know what the judge told me one time.  
 
 
 
Matt Steele
Strange how the Court was closed in St.Stephen by the Brian Gallant government which forced people to drive , or walk , to Saint John, and the decision was challenged in Court , and found to be lawful ; yet this ruling is saying just the opposite.....strange indeed .
 
Allan Marven
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Reply to Matt Steele
Matter of fact, Greenfield (the old Atcon) is doing work for GNB again, thanks to higgs
 
Allan Marven
Reply to Matt Steele
Tell me what that has to do with Susan Holt. Higgs had 7 years to deal with the Atcon 6 (Liberals), and did nothing.
 
Allan Marven
Reply to Allan Marven
Matter of fact, Greenfield (the old Atcon) is doing work for GNB again, thanks to higgs
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to Matt Steele
You are comparing and 🍎 🍎 🍎 and 🍊🍊🍊.
 
Jos Allaire
Reply to Matt Steele
Do you still speak for the majority, like when you stated that Higgs was going to win a big majority❓
 
MR Cain
Reply to Matt Steele
Nobody complained or brought it to court. Did Higgs reopen the St. Stephen court?
 
Al Clark
Reply to Matt Steele
And of course a whopping SIXTY percent of SJ cases are from St Stephen? No? How many?
 
Matt Steele
Reply to MR Cain
The decision by Brian Gallant in 2015 to close the St.Stephen Court House was challenged , and upheld by the Court .
 
MR Cain
Reply to Matt Steele
Reason being??

MR Cain
Reply to Matt Steele
So Higgs could have reopened it but he wanted to save money.
 
MR Cain
Reply to Allan Marven
and he could have reopened all the courthouses closed under Alward and Higgs.
 
David Amos
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Reply to Matt Steele
I caused quite a circus beginning in the Sussex Court in 2004 that will never be forgotten by our justice system 
 
 
 
Eugene Peabody
Flemming and Higgs were of a similar nature, they were sure their opinion was right and everyone else was wrong and they just ignored them.
 
Alison Jackson
Reply to Eugene Peabody
That, and they are extrememly anti-French
 
Matt Steele
Reply to Alison Jackson
Do you mean like when Brian Gallant's Liberals closed the Courthouse in St.Stephen in 2015......extremely anti English .

MR Cain
Reply to Matt Steele
Higgs reopened the court of course? or did he?
 
Al Clark
Reply to Matt Steele
You know this us vs them business is what got higgy canned the other night eh? Wonder why?
 
Matt Steele
Reply to Al Clark
You know this us vs them business is what got Brian Gallant canned after ONLY ONE TERM eh? Wonder why?

David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele
Don't forget the Sussex Courthouse
 
MR Cain
Reply to Matt Steele
Between 1992 and 2015, 21 courthouses closed; cry me a river
 
Al Clark
Reply to Matt Steele
Sorry, no us vs them with gallant. He wasn't focused on ONE thing. Ya no; starts with h, ends with e, has at in the middle?
 
David Sampson
Reply to Eugene Peabody
And they both were not interested in supporting the large Acadien population, sadly!



Loran Hayden
what would be the penalty for anyone else?

Jay Miller
Reply to Loran Hayden
voted it out of office - gone
 
Loran Hayden
Reply to Jay Miller
Generally for contempt of court it would be jail until you comply.
 
Dave Sellers
Reply to Loran Hayden
How can you comply if you are locked up?
 
Loran Hayden
Reply to Dave Sellers
You would be set free on promise to comply and then back in jail if you don't.
 
David Amos
Reply to Loran Hayden
Not true
Thats the reason I jumped bail in the USA and came home to run or Parliament again nearly 20 years ago
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
 
 

Me,Myself and I

 
Oct 27, 2015 
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Anyone remember mean old me after 20 very long years?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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