Saturday 19 October 2024

Riverview residents ask for bigger RCMP presence in town

 


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Riverview residents say more police presence needed

Moncton, NB, Canada / 91.9 The Bend
Tara Clow   clow.tara@radioabl.ca
Riverview residents say more police presence needed

Codiac RCMP Insp. Jonathan White and Supt. Benoit Jolette. Image: Video capture from Town of Riverview website

Numerous residents came out to speak to RCMP at a community forum held in Riverview.

One of the common themes from residents was a lack of police presence.

Resident Jean-Paul Doiron claimed it took officers 90 minutes to respond to their call one night

“A couple of weeks ago, my spouse was home alone. Somebody was knocking on the windows. I left Caledonia Park, drove to Point Park, drove around the neighbourhood for about an hour, then I went all back to work before I met a cop car.” Doiron told Codiac RCMP Supt. Benoit Jolette.

“You see them go up and down Hillsborough Road, cover the other roads, like the main drag. You don’t see them in the subdivisions.”

Jolette said there are roughly 45,000 calls for service for all three communities.

“I totally agree with you that we can do better. Riverview is not the only issue. It’s three communities, because there are thousands of streets in all three communities, and we need to do better to have that visual presence to be going on these streets,” he said.

“But there are times when you’re in bed, watching the hockey game, doing the dishes where we’re driving by. We can’t be on every street, 24 hours a day, guaranteed, but we can always do better in that.”

Resident Samuel Acker also raised his concerns. He says their home has been broken into twice since 1996, but he feels there needs to be more officers patrolling the town.

“I’ll see a cop driving on the square, either Trites, Whitepine, Pine Glen or Coverdale, but that’s all you see them. You don’t see them anywhere on the side streets. We know that criminals are not going to try to do stuff on the Main Streets because everybody drives by,” said Acker.

“We really need enforcement in the suburbs, where they know they can hide places with woodlines behind them. I think everyone is asking for it, but we’re not seeing any results.”

Other issues raised during the two-hour community forum held on Thursday night included drug use, feeling unsafe and unprotected and speeding on town streets.

Some residents stated they just don’t feel safe in their homes or communities anymore.

Another startling statistic brought forth during the forum was the number of injury collisions and fatalities.

According to the statistics from Codiac RCMP, there were 69 in 2023, and that has risen to 97 in 2024, between the months of January and September.

“It seems that every day there’s a report of a fatal collision in New Brunswick, not necessarily in our area. So that could be attributed to plenty of things, distracted driving, individuals who are driving too quickly or not obeying traffic signals,” said Jolette.

“I believe that residents of Riverview that is a serious concern. People are driving too fast and dangerously in our neighbourhoods. It’s the same thing in all three communities.”

The superintendent also told each resident who got up to speak that he would follow up on each of their stories and investigate them further.

He also stressed the need for residents to report any incidents of crime to the RCMP.

If you missed the Town of Riverview RCMP community forum, you can view it on the town’s website.



 
 
 

Saturday 19 October 2024

Riverview residents ask for bigger RCMP presence in town

 
 
 
 

Riverview residents ask for bigger RCMP presence in town

About 100 people attended town-hall meeting with Codiac RCMP following proposed budget increase

Samuel Acker has had two break-ins at his house in Riverview — costing him money, electronics and even his mother's wedding ring.

With the town's growing population, there's a growing need for more officers to patrol the community, he said.

At a town-hall meeting Thursday night, Acker raised his concerns to the RCMP, requesting more street patrols and follow-up calls in the community of more than 21,000 people that sits across the Petitcodiac River from Moncton 

"I think they need to have a couple of people that — all their job is — is to follow-up with people on things ... we have seniors getting older, they're getting more scared of the community and if no one's talking with them, no one's communicating with them, they're all going to move away."

Acker was one of about 100 residents who gathered to raise safety concerns and have a Q&A with the police.

The most common concern raised was that there aren't enough officers and the RCMP is often busy answering calls in Moncton or Dieppe. Residents said they need officers who will remain in Riverview to attend calls.

"There's not enough policing presence in Riverview, I don't think we are seeing them enough in the suburbs," Acker said.  

Several people sitting on red chairs. About 100 residents filled the Riverview council chambers to attend a Q&A with the Codiac Regional RCMP and Mayor Andrew LeBlanc. (Rhythm Rathi/CBC)

He said the police are visible on the town's main streets but he would like to see more patrolling in his residential neighbourhood.

"I think people are going to the suburbs off the main streets stealing, breaking-in, doing all the crime."

Acker said his family has installed several cameras and an alarm system on their property, which gives them a sense of security.

Other residents attending the meeting spoke about speeding vehicles, loud mufflers, drug dealing, slashed tires and vehicle thefts.

A white man in a police uniform, has no hair, wears glasses. Codiac Regional RCMP Supt. Benoit Jolette says Riverview is part of one of the fastest-growing regions in Canada, which has meant '75 per cent more calls for service in the last eight to 10 years.' (Rhythm Rathi/CBC)

RCMP Supt. Benoit Jolette, who was at the meeting requested by town council, said statistics comparing criminal activity in 2023 to the first nine months of 2024 don't show much of an increase in Riverview, but there still are three months to go in the year.

However, growth in population in the entire Greater-Moncton Area has increased the number of calls to police overall, he said. 

And when the RCMP had a similar community consultation in Moncton in 2022, residents echoed similar concerns about crime.

"What we have seen is the issues that first started occurring on a much rapid pace in Moncton have spilled over into Dieppe and Riverview," Jolette said.   

Jolette pointed out that Riverview is part of one of the fastest-growing regions in Canada, which has meant "75 per cent more calls for service in the last eight to 10 years," in Moncton, Riverview and Dieppe.

"That's astronomical — going from 30,000 calls for service per year, to nearly 45,000," he said.

The Moncton region was ranked second on the list of fastest-growing metro populations in Canada, according to a Statistics Canada report published earlier this year.

The region, which includes Dieppe, Riverview and surrounding areas, had a population of 178,971 as of July 1, 2023 — a 6.1 per cent increase from 2022.

The Town of Riverview had a two per cent population increase, according to that report.

To keep up with this increase in the region, the RCMP has drafted a proposal for an increased budget for 2025, along with a three-year plan for the Codiac region.

The proposed $59-million budget is a 29 per cent increase from 2024, with a target of adding 46 additional police officers over the next three years, including a traffic unit.

Three white men sitting next to each other. Two on the left in police uniforms and one the right in a blue suit. RCMP Supt. Benoit Jolette with Insp. Jonathan White (left) at the town hall Q&A with Riverview Mayor Andrew LeBlanc. (Rhythm Rathi/CBC)

It was approved by the Codiac Regional Policing Authority and presented to the Town of Riverview on Thursday.

Jolette said the RCMP has had "non-existent growth" since 2008, which now brings them to a "tipping point."

"Municipal councils and residents need to make serious decisions for the future of safety, security in the Codiac area."

He said the budget will be presented to Moncton and Dieppe councils in the coming weeks.

Meanwhile, Jolette advised residents to report crime to the RCMP, instead of taking it to social media. He also encouraged residents to continue taking precautions to safeguard their properties.

Riverview Mayor Andrew LeBlanc said the town is waiting on "a workload analysis from the RCMP," to have a better understanding of where the resources are going.

"From a strategic planning perspective, we have some tough decisions to make as a tri-community on what we are going to invest in the growth of the police force," said LeBlanc.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Rhythm Rathi

Reporter, CBC New Brunswick

Rhythm Rathi is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick in Moncton. He was born and raised in India and attended journalism school in Ontario. Send him your story tips at rhythm.rathi@cbc.ca

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21 Comments
 
 
 
David Amos

The RCMP in the area had lots of resources for "Operation Jekyll" after they falsely arrested me in 2008
 
 
 

David Amos
"Riverview Mayor Andrew LeBlanc said the town is waiting on "a workload analysis from the RCMP," to have a better understanding of where the resources are going."

Yea Right and I am still waiting or email responses from his town


David Amos
"Meanwhile, Jolette advised residents to report crime to the RCMP, instead of taking it to social media."

Why not? Its far more effective


David Amos
Methinks the folks should have listened to me about my concerns with the RCMP when I first appeared on their ballots n 2004 However when I sued the Queen in 2015 at least the RCMP and their lawyers quit laughing N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
David Webb
I don't know where they are hiding. Traffic infractions are rampant in the area. I only venture into town once per week for shopping needs and the infractions I see are endless. An unmarked vehicle and an officer would pay for itself, if the revenue goes to the municipality.

David Amos

Reply to David Webb
Cry me a river

 
 
Bill Hanley
The RCMP have been failing the greater Moncton area ever since the provincial liberals forced them on Moncton.

David Amos
Reply to Bill Hanley
C'est Vrai

 
 
kelly sherrard
I was told a few years ago by an RCMP Superintendant that there are 3 cars covering Moncton, Riverview and Dieppe area. The rest are out on the highway. One would have to question whether having a municipal police force to cover this area would be better served than having the RCMP continue.
 
MR Cain
Reply to kelly sherrard
The municipal force was disbanded because of corruption.
 
Bill Hanley
Reply to MR Cain
Nice try. The municipal force was disbanded by the provincial liberals because the government wanted the RCMP in place for the francophonie summit.
 
MR Cain
Reply to Bill Hanley
Another opinion.

David Amos

Reply to Bill Hanley
The town clowns were VERY corrupt but the RCMP are far worse

David Amos
Reply to Bill Hanley
Nope

David Amos
Reply to kelly sherrard
Of course

 
 
Bob Smith
When patrol routes are so well known to the criminal element that wires can be removed with impunity from a Moncton bridge light late at night, the problem is not just with number of RCMP officers available.

David Amos
Reply to Bob Smith
Interesting


 
Lorelei Stott
my right to enjoy local trails has long been taken away with vagrants, no cops ever in sight, not to mention my bike stolen, all to say it is not more RCMP needed it is dealing with offenders that is needed

David Amos
Reply to Lorelei Stott
Yup


 
Jake Newman
time to move away from the RCMP

MR Cain
Reply to Jake Newman
Moncton had a police force; what would you suggest now? Maybe promote vigilantes?
 
David Amos
Reply to Jake Newman
Yup


 
Loran Hayden
They want it but they don't want to pay for it.

David Amos
Reply to Loran Hayden
True
 
 

 

Friday 4 October 2024

Major spending hike for Codiac RCMP proposed, adding 17 officers

 

Major spending hike for Codiac RCMP proposed, adding 17 officers

Codiac Regional Policing Authority's proposed budget still needs municipal approval

A major increase in spending and staffing has been proposed for the Codiac Regional RCMP. 

The Codiac Regional Policing Authority, the civilian board overseeing the force, unanimously voted Thursday evening to support a $59 million budget for 2025. That's a 29 per cent budget increase from this year.

It includes adding 17 more police officers and five civilian support staff.

The budget would need to be approved by councils in Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview, the communities policed by Codiac RCMP, later this year.

"We've had significant increase in population in our community," Don Moore, chair of the policing authority board, told Information Morning Moncton on Friday. "That alone — we haven't kept up with the policing needs."

The Moncton metro region had one of Canada's fastest growing populations, Statistics Canada reported earlier this year.

The policing authority is funded by the three municipalities with a formula accounting for population and calls to police. Moncton's share in 2025 would be 70.8 per cent, with Dieppe at 18.5 and Riverview at 10.7.

Moncton Mayor Dawn Arnold said city council has yet to review all of the details.

"I fully acknowledge that we have a growing community, but it does seem enormous at first blush," Arnold said of her initial reaction to the budget increase.

Dieppe Mayor Yvon Lapierre and Riverview Mayor Andrew LeBlanc did not provide interviews.

The budget proposal, if approved, would be the largest single-year increase in police staffing. 

It would increase th budgeted number of regular officers from 156 this year to 173. 

Moore said the board is also recommending more increases in future years. Fifteen officers are proposed to be added in 2026, followed by 14 more in 2027 to bring the force to 202 members.

Information Morning - Moncton 11:26 
Codiac Regional Policing Authority asking for a significant budget increase for 2025
Don Moore is the chair of the Codiac Regional Policing Authority.

The numbers followed a police workload review by PwC, formerly PricewaterhouseCoopers, an auditing and consulting firm.

Moore declined to share the full report with CBC, citing "a significant security aspect." 

Arnold wants to see the report.

"I believe in data, and that's why we want the full workload analysis to see what we're dealing with here," Arnold said.

Moore said the increase should help address concerns residents have voiced about the visibility of police.

"With 46 additional police officers over the next three years, I would tend to think that that would increase that visibility that would help people understand that they have a role in our community, that we can be more safe and secure," Moore said.

Traffic unit proposed in 2026

Ten of the officers proposed for 2026 would be to re-establish a traffic unit, something some Moncton councillors requested.

Overall, the budget forecasts spending $13,436,019 more than this year when accounting for a previous deficit.

The new police and civilian staff account for $2.7 million of that, while salary increases for unionized Mounties account for $1 million. 

The largest portion, at $3 million, is tied to the lease of the new police station on Albert Street, set to open next year. Under a 2019 agreement, Dieppe and Riverview will pay rent to help cover Moncton's cost to construct the $57-million building.

The next largest share, at $2.3 million, is for RCMP division administration, which covers various costs provided through the J Division headquarters in Fredericton. 

The budget includes just over half a million dollars for body cameras for Codiac RCMP. The cameras are expected to be deployed nationally by the end of 2025.

There is $125,000 earmarked for an executive director position, a full-time staff role recommended in a police service review last year.

Money to begin paying policing authority board members, another recommendation of the review, is also in this budget. Members of the three municipal councils appointed to the board would not be paid.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Shane Magee

Reporter

Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.

 
 
 
61 Comments
 
 
David Amos

Its pleasant to see that most of my comments were eventually allowed excepting of course the most important one of all but I trust that the RCMP have read it  
 

David Amos 
I wonder if Don Moore recalls talking to me about this years ago He never answered my emails 
 
 
David Amos
Methinks the RCMP in Moncton should quit making false allegations against me on the phone on behalf of one of their former members who is also running in this election and return my calls and answer my emails N'esy Pas? 
 
 

Loran Hayden
Dude in the picture looks kinda shifty-eyed to me.
 
David Amos 
Reply to Loran Hayden
Windows to the soul 
 
Felix Mitchell
Reply to Loran Hayden
Votes ndp
 
David Amos 
Reply to Felix Mitchell
That is supposed to be a secret 
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to Loran Hayden 
He is actually one very smart dude..
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to Felix Mitchell
Actually at one time he was a big time PC



Daniel Franklin  
And then what happens when we get 17 new RCMP and crime does not go down? 

David Amos 
Reply to Daniel Franklin 
We lose 
 
 
 
June Arnott  
CBC, ask them about this comment, re-establish a traffic unit. So they now admit it is a free for all when driving! We all know its true! Sickening the accidents happening 
 
David Amos 
Reply to June Arnott 
Good luck with that request I suspect there will be a lot of "journalists" employed by the Crown out of a job in short order 
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbc-mandate-review-1.7341700

 
 
Hugh MacDonald
The RCMP have reported they are having trouble recruiting, and small communities across the country say they are suffering as a result.

Where does Codiac expect to find an additional 17 RCMP officers?

David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
Edmonton has been getting them from the UK for years

Hugh MacDonald
Reply to David Amos
If so, then why is the RCMP reporting recruiting difficulties?

David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
Because the shine is off the pony and other cops are better paid.

David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
BTW The RCMP and I have been at odds since 1982
 
Hugh MacDonald
Reply to David Amos
You say "Edmonton has been getting them from the UK for years"

Who is "them"? They can't be RCMP officers because Edmonton has it's own force.

Where's your proof to what you say?

David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
Perhaps you should read my lawsuit

Federal Court File No T-1557-15

Hugh MacDonald
Reply to David Amos
Who cares about your lawsuit. Edmonton's recruiting of U.K. officers for their police force has nothing to do with RCMP recruiting difficulties and officer shortages across the country. 
 
David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
It was Edmonton's U.K. officers who tried to arrest me in 2014 and their boss at the time was a former Deputy Commissioner of the RCMP 
 
David Amos 
Reply to David Amos
 
David Amos 
Reply to David Amos
Hugh MacDonald
Reply to David Amos
This has nothing to do with the current recruiting problems the RCMP are having and filling positions across the country where they are policing.

End of conversation.

David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald
Nope 
 
David Amos

Reply to Hugh MacDonald
I was falsely arrested and charged in Moncton in 1988 by the local town clowns on the advice of the RCMP before the RCMP took over their jobs I was exonerated after I embarrassed the Crown at trial
 
David Amos
Reply to Hugh MacDonald 
"Who cares about your lawsuit."

I call them Trudeau The Younger and Higgy amongst many others

David Amos 
Reply to David Amos
Several of my replies are still "Pending approval"  
 
 
 
Andre Kornhauser
More staffing, big deal. Offenders get bail not jail, rinse and repeat.

David Amos

Reply to Andre Kornhauser
Others are never allowed bail and sit in jail for years awaiting trial



Jack Bell
"Moncton's share in 2025 would be 70.8 per cent, with Dieppe at 18.5 and Riverview at 10.7.

It would increase th budgeted number of regular officers from 156 this year to 173. "

.... uh huh... since Riverview pays for 10.7% of the police budget, shouldn't we have 10.7% of the staff patrolling out streets?

So, we should have just over 18 police...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

You can go months without seeing 1.

James Risdon
Reply to Jack Bell
No.

You don't provide policing solely on the basis of who pays for it the most. If that were the case, the rich would be very safe and the poor live in crime-infested ghettos.

You police based also on the need due the population density and the number of crimes being committed. You allocate police where they are needed.

A sprawling estate might well pay a bigger share of property taxes but if only three people live there behind a big wall with security cameras and their own private guards and never see anything remotely looking like a criminal, then it doesn't make sense to constantly send a police car there.

Instead, you take that police car and have it patrol a part of the city that suffers more from crime.

Jack Bell

Reply to James Risdon
"You police based also on the need due the population density and the number of crimes being committed."

So... why pay 10.7% if we only need and get 1% of the resources?

James Risdon
Reply to Jack Bell
When municipalities collect taxes to pay for services, they do so through property taxes. Those property taxes are calculated based on the municipality's mil rate and also the province's assessed value for the property.

So, if you live in a sparsely-populated but affluent neighbourhood, your property will be worth more and you'll pay more in property taxes than other people since you're all subject to the same mil rate.

It might not be "fair" but it's a commonly-accepted practice in Canada where the general consensus is that the rich should pay a higher proportion in taxes.

MR Cain
Reply to Jack Bell
People pay insurance and never get to use it.

David Amos
Reply to Jack Bell
Good question



Matt Steele

" Money to begin paying policing authority board members, another recommendation of the review, is also in this budget. Members of the three municipal councils appointed to the board would not be paid. "

Of course there will be more money to PAY the Board Members ; that will strike real fear into the hearts of criminals . All that money , and there won't be any decrease in crime , but there will be lots of traffic tickets issued as that is the low hanging fruit , and takes very little effort .

David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele
True



Holley Hardin
Another unforeseen consequence of our increased population plan...

Loran Hayden
Reply to Holley Hardin
Immigrants are far less likely to turn criminal than the locals.

David Amos
Reply to Loran Hayden
I disagree



Jack Straw
This is not going to reduce crime. I am glad I do not live in Moncton and have to pay for this waste of money.

Loran Hayden
Reply to Jack Straw
it's the only city in NB worth living in

James Risdon
Reply to Jack Straw
How do you figure that arresting more criminals and locking them away in jail will fail to reduce crime?

Loran Hayden
Reply to Jack Straw
more policing doesn't reduce crime - social programs do

James Risdon

Reply to Loran Hayden
Nonsense. When you arrest a drug dealer or rapist or murderer and lock him or her away in jail, you eliminate their ability to commit crimes while they are in jail.

Policing works.

James Risdon
Reply to Loran Hayden
Would you want the government to take criminals out of jail and dump them on your street?

James Risdon
Reply to Loran Hayden
Well, let's be clear: Bathurst is the best place.

Come to Bathurst - NB the best!!!

David Amos

Reply to Loran Hayden
Wow

David Amos
Reply to James Risdon
Need I say I happy to be where I am for rather obvious reasons? 
 
 
 

RCMP bust 8 N.B. family members on 57 weapons, drug charges

 
 
 

Christopher Tingley of 'Operation Jekyll' sues RCMP, Crown and Attorney General

Tingley was held in custody for about 16 months before being released on bail

A Riverglade resident is suing RCMP officers, Crown prosecutors and the Attorney General of Canada, alleging they abused the court process and investigated him in the absence of reasonable and probable grounds.

Christopher Tingley and seven of his family members were arrested on Dec. 11, 2008, as part of an RCMP investigation called 'Operation Jekyll,'.

That day, 130 RCMP members from across the Maritimes stormed eight different locations in the village of Salisbury.

They arrested Tingley and his family on 57 charges, including conspiracy to trafficking cocaine, OxyContin, marijuana, contraband tobacco and firearms. They were also charged with being members of an organized crime group. 

Christopher Tingley was 25 years old at the time of the arrest, according to Alison Menard, a lawyer involved in the case. He was held in custody for about 16 months before being released on bail.

In 2011, a Moncton judge acquitted Tingley and three members of his family when the Crown prosecutor called no evidence.

The year before, charges were dropped against three other Tingleys. One member of the family pleaded guilty to trafficking drugs.

Alleged abuse of court system

That was the end of the case, until Jan. 18 of this year, when Tingley sued RCMP officers Staff Sgt. Mark Janes, Sgt. Jean (Chico) Belliveau and officer Deborah Craig.

He is also suing Crown prosecutors Michel Bertrand, Kathryn Gregory, Nicole Poirier, and Gabriel Bourgeois, as well as the Attorney General of Canada.

In the statement of claim filed at the Court of Queen's Bench Tingley says the prosecution's decision to call no evidence against him was "an abuse of the court system."

Alison Menard is a lawyer who was involved with the Tingley case. She said Christopher Tingley spent about 16 months in jail. (Tori Weldon/CBC)

Tingley alleges the prosecutors', RCMP officers' and attorney general's conduct was "fueled by malice."

In part, the statement of claim reads, "the defendants commenced and continued the investigation and prosecution of the Plaintiff in the absence of reasonable and probable grounds."

Alleged organized crime group

The day after the arrests in 2008, RCMP Staff Sgt. Robert Power alleged the accused were connected to a network that was expanding into other areas of the province.

He said, "this particular organized crime group, like other organized crime groups, have tentacles that reach out from their home locale."

It took the RCMP a year to build their case, involving officers from across the province. Ultimately, the case lead to one conviction: Kevin Tingley was convicted of drug trafficking and was sentenced to 42 months in jail.

Christopher Tingley is now suing the group for damages, including loss of income, loss of financial credit, defamation and legal fees.

Statements of defence responding to the allegations in Tingley's statement of claim have not been filed yet.

CBC News is waiting for responses from the RCMP and the Attorney General of Canada.

A notice of intent to defend has been filed on behalf of Crown prosecutors on Feb 28.

On August 23, a motion to have the allegations struck will be heard in Moncton.

E.J. Mockler, who is representing Tingley, could not be reached for comment.

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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: "McGrath, Stephen T" <Stephen.McGrath@novascotia.ca
>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 12:40:22 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Automatic reply: Does anyone recall the email entitled "So
>>>>> Stephen McGrath if not you then just exactly who sent me this latest
>>>>> email from your office?"
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your message, however I am no longer at the Department of
>>>>> Justice, and this email account is not being monitored.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please contact Kim Fleming at Kim.Fleming@novascotia.ca (phone
>>>>> 902-424-4023), or Vicky Zinck at Victoria.Zinck@novascotia.ca (phone
>>>>> 902-424-4390). Kim and Vicky will be able to redirect you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>>>>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Amos,
>>>>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
>>>>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>>>>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
>>>>> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
>>>>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
>>>>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
>>>>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Department of Justice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:16:38 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Attn Laura Lee Langley, Karen Hudson and Joanne Munro I just
>>>>> called all three of your offices to inform you of my next lawsuit
>>>>> against Nova Scotia
>>>>> To: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca, Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca,
>>>>> Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>>>>> Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/exec_council/NSDeputies.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/exec_council/LLLangley-bio.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura Lee Langley
>>>>> 1700 Granville Street, 5th Floor
>>>>> One Government Place
>>>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1X5
>>>>> Phone: (902) 424-8940
>>>>> Fax: (902) 424-0667
>>>>> Email: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/just/deputy.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> Karen Hudson Q.C.
>>>>> 1690 Hollis Street, 7th Floor
>>>>> Joseph Howe Building
>>>>> Halifax, NS B3J 3J9
>>>>> Phone: (902) 424-4223
>>>>> Fax: (902) 424-0510
>>>>> Email: Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> https://novascotia.ca/sns/ceo.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> Joanne Munro:
>>>>> 1505 Barrington Street, 14-South
>>>>> Maritime Centre
>>>>> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5
>>>>> Phone: (902) 424-4089
>>>>> Fax: (902) 424-5510
>>>>> Email: Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I
>>>>> suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown
>>>>> Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached
>>>>> to you and your Premier etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Veritas Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Day Sir
>>>>>
>>>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>>>
>>>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>>>>
>>>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>>>
>>>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>>>
>>>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>>>
>>>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: 20151223
>>>>>
>>>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>>>
>>>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>>>
>>>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>>>
>>>>> BETWEEN:
>>>>>
>>>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>>>
>>>>> Plaintiff
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>>>
>>>>> Defendant
>>>>>
>>>>> ORDER
>>>>>
>>>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>>>
>>>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>>>> in its entirety.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>>>>> he stated:
>>>>>
>>>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>>>> Police.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>>>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>>>
>>>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>>>> Judge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>>>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>>>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>>>
>>>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>>>> most
>>>>>
>>>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>>>>
>>>>> 83 The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>>>> allow Barry Winters to publish tlhe following words three times over
>>>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>>>
>>>>> January 13, 2015
>>>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>>>
>>>>> December 8, 2014
>>>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>>>
>>>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vertias Vincit
>>>>> David Raymond Amos
>>>>> 902 800 0369
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>>>
>>>>> January 30, 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>>>
>>>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>>>> Minister of Health
>>>>>
>>>>> CM/cb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/FedsUsTreasuryDeptRcmpEtc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>>> United States Senate
>>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>>> raised in the attached letter. Mr. Amos has represented to me that
>>>>> these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes. I believe Mr. Amos has been in
>>>>> contact
>>>>> with you about this previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>>>
 
 

Caledonia Region detachment

 
461 Pine Glen Rd
P.O. Box 716
Riverview NB E1B 4T8

Telephone: 506-387-2222

 

---------- Original message ---------
From: Moore, Rob - M.P. <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 3:59 PM
Subject: Automatic reply: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


*This is an automated response*

 

Thank you for contacting the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P. office. We appreciate the time you took to get in touch with our office.

 

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If your question or concern is time sensitive, please call our office: 506-832-4200.

 

Again, we thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns.

 

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---------- Original message ---------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: <james@jsmklaw.ca>, <info@ezrainstitute.ca>, <info@libertycoalitioncanada.com>
Cc: blaine.higgs <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, Mark.Blakely <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <brian.boucher@greenpartynb.ca>, art <art@streetchurch.ca>, fin.minfinance-financemin.fin <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>, Jason Lavigne <jason@yellowhead.vote>, <info@votefaytene.ca>, kris.austin <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, <AWaugh@postmedia.com>, Jacques.Poitras <Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, <Steve.Outhouse@gnb.ca>, rob.moore <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>, John.Williamson <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>




---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: National Police Federation <communications@npf-fpn.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 3:05 PM
Subject: Reminder – Take part in this Election! / Rappel - Participez à cette élection!
To: <David.Raymond.Amos333@gmail.com>


Hello David

There are only
three days left until Election Day in New Brunswick, and with public safety being an important issue this election, we want to remind you of the importance of your vote and participation. Voting not only allows you to voice your opinions on vital policing issues but also enables you to help shape the future of public safety in this province.


Election Day is this coming Monday, October 21, 2024. Now is the time to make your voice heard!  


Important Details

  • Election Day: Monday, October 21, 2024

  • Hours: 10 a.m. to 8 p.m.  

  • Location: Visit Elections NB’s webpage to find your local poll information

  • ID: Remember to bring your voter card or ID (if you’re NOT registered) to the poll


Before heading to the polls, familiarize yourself with the parties and candidates. Our election campaign website has a lot of helpful information, like key public safety issues, the NPF’s priorities for investments in the NB RCMP, and responses from political parties to a questionnaire seeking their plans to tackle public safety in New Brunswick.


Every vote counts! By casting your ballot, you are having an impact on the future direction of this province, as well as public safety policy. Encourage your friends, family, and other Members to participate as well for a safer New Brunswick.


Thank you for all your support over the last several weeks, together we can strengthen our NB RCMP.


The Our New Brunswick RCMP Team

Bonjour David


Il ne reste que trois jours avant le jour des élections au Nouveau-Brunswick, et comme la sécurité publique est un enjeu important dans le cadre d ces élections, nous voulons vous rappeler l'importance de votre vote et de votre participation. Le vote vous permet non seulement d'exprimer votre opinion sur des enjeux policiers essentielles, mais aussi de contribuer à façonner l'avenir de la sécurité publique dans cette province.  


Le jour de l'élection est le lundi 21 octobre 2024. C'est le moment de faire entendre votre voix!  


Détails importants

  • Jour de l’élection: Lundi le 21 octobre, 2024 

  • Horaire: 10 h 00 à 20 h 00  

  • Lieu du scrutin: Visitez la page Web d'Élections NB pour trouver les renseignements sur le bureau de vote de votre localité. 

  • Pièce d’identité: N'oubliez pas d'apporter votre carte d'électeur ou une pièce d'identité (si vous n'êtes PAS inscrit) au bureau de vote.  


Avant de vous rendre aux urnes, familiarisez-vous avec les partis et les candidats. Notre
site Web de campagne électorale contient beaucoup d'informations utiles, comme les questions clés en matière de sécurité publique, les priorités de la FPN en matière d’investissements dans la GRC du Nouveau-Brunswick, et les réponses des partis politiques à un questionnaire demandant leurs plans pour traiter la question de la sécurité publique dans la province.


Chaque vote compte! En déposant votre bulletin de vote, vous avez un impact sur la direction de notre province, ainsi que sur la politique de sécurité publique. Encouragez vos amis, votre famille et les autres membres à participer également pour un Nouveau-Brunswick plus sécuritaire.  


Merci de votre soutien au cours des dernières semaines. Ensemble, nous pouvons renforcer la GRC au Nouveau-Brunswick.


L’équipe de Notre GRC au Nouveau-Brunswick


On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:42 AM David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Faytene Grasseschi / PCNB - Hampton-Fundy-St. Martins 2024 Candidate <info@votefaytene.ca>
Date: Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>


David,

I just tried to call you back.  My apologies again that we had to keep the call short today due to an appointment. Thank you for your care, kindness and defence of me.  I do appreciate it.

Please know how much we respect you.

Faytene

On Aug 6, 2024, at 8:01 PM, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:


---------- Original message ---------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 8:01 PM
Subject: Fwd: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: Ross.Wetmore <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>, <connielarson.nbliberal@gmail.com>, <DonMonahan@hotmail.com>
Cc: <blaine.higgs@pcnb.ca>, <info@pcnb.ca>, <Rob.weir.riverview@gmail.com>, <davemonctoncentre@gmail.com>, <michelmorinpcnb49@gmail.com>, <marcandrerosspcnb47@gmail.com>, <vote4chippin@outlook.com>, <info@votefaytene.ca>

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 7:46 PM
Subject: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: Daniel.J.Allain <Daniel.J.Allain@gnb.ca>, jeff.carr <Jeff.Carr@gnb.ca>, Richard.Ames <Richard.Ames@gnb.ca>, kathy.bockus <Kathy.Bockus@gnb.ca>, Gary.Crossman <Gary.Crossman@gnb.ca>, Bill.Hogan <Bill.Hogan@gnb.ca>, Bill.Oliver <Bill.Oliver@gnb.ca>, mary.wilson <mary.wilson@gnb.ca>, Ryan.Cullins <Ryan.Cullins@gnb.ca>, Mike.Dawson <Mike.Dawson@gnb.ca>, bruce.fitch <bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>, Arlene.Dunn <Arlene.Dunn@gnb.ca>, hugh.flemming <Hugh.Flemming@gnb.ca>, jill.green <Jill.Green@gnb.ca>, Holland, Mike (LEG) <mike.holland@gnb.ca>, Trevor.Holder <Trevor.Holder@gnb.ca>, Margaret.Johnson <Margaret.Johnson@gnb.ca>, Glen.Savoie <Glen.Savoie@gnb.ca>, Tammy.Scott-Wallace <Tammy.Scott-Wallace@gnb.ca>, Rejean.A.Savoie <Rejean.A.Savoie@gnb.ca>, Dorothy.Shephard <Dorothy.Shephard@gnb.ca>, ernie.steeves <Ernie.Steeves@gnb.ca>, Greg.Turner <Greg.Turner@gnb.ca>, sherry.wilson <Sherry.Wilson@gnb.ca>
Cc: blaine.higgs <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, <Steve.Outhouse@gnb.ca>, BrianThomasMacdonald <BrianThomasMacdonald@gmail.com>, Richard.Bragdon <Richard.Bragdon@parl.gc.ca>, John.Williamson <John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, rob.moore <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>


 

---------- Original message ---------
From: Chrystia Freeland <Chrystia.Freeland@fin.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 10:23 AM
Subject: Automatic reply: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your comments.

Le ministère des Finances Canada accuse réception de votre courriel. Nous vous assurons que vos commentaires sont les bienvenus.



---------- Original message ---------
From: Ministerial Correspondence Unit - Justice Canada <mcu@justice.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 10:23 AM
Subject: Automatic Reply
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>

Thank you for writing to the Honourable Arif Virani, Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada.

Due to the volume of correspondence addressed to the Minister, please note that there may be a delay in processing your email. Rest assured that your message will be carefully reviewed.

We do not respond to correspondence that contains offensive language.

-------------------

Merci d'avoir écrit à l'honorable Arif Virani, ministre de la Justice et procureur général du Canada.

En raison du volume de correspondance adressée au ministre, veuillez prendre note qu'il pourrait y avoir un retard dans le traitement de votre courriel. Nous tenons à vous assurer que votre message sera lu avec soin.

Nous ne répondons pas à la correspondance contenant un langage offensant.

 

---------- Original message ---------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 10:22 AM
Subject: RE Calls from Moncton RCMP (506 856 8139) about ‘PJ’ Andreetti and I
To: <Eric.Rousselle@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, <rcmpnb.grcnb@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, blaine.higgs <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, kris.austin <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, fin.minfinance-financemin.fin <fin.minfinance-financemin.fin@canada.ca>, washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>

Contact information

Sgt. Eric Rousselle
Codiac Regional RCMP
506-857-2400
rcmpnb.grcnb@rcmp-grc.gc.ca


Blaine Higgs

 
---------- Original message ---------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: In his final words as Canada’s chief of defence staff, Gen. Wayne Eyre said ‘evil walks this earth'
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With HST promise, Higgs seeks a campaign about choices, not change

PC leader’s tax cut pledge was just one of many options to make life more affordable

 
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jul 25, 2024 6:00 AM ADT
 
 
Blaine Higgs HST reduction announcement Last week, Premier Blaine Higgs, as leader of the Progressive Conservatives, announced he would reduce the provincial portion of the HST if elected again. (Alix Villeneuve/Radio-Canada)

New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs's promise to lower the provincial portion of the harmonized sales tax is a politically potent move and a callback to a similar Conservative commitment almost two decades ago.

The HST is the most visible of taxes. It's itemized on sales receipts we look at every day — as former prime minister Stephen Harper pointed out in 2005, when he launched his election campaign with a promise to cut the federal portion of the tax.

"This tax cut is one you will see every time you shop," Harper said.

"It is a tax cut you will experience, a tax cut that no politician will be able to take away without you noticing." 

That promise helped Harper win the election, putting an end to more than 12 years of Liberal rule in Ottawa.

WATCH | The CBC's Jacques Poitras on Higgs's tax-cut pledge:
 

The political potency of PC leader’s HST promise

In a move that echoes Stephen Harper’s 2005 campaign, Blaine Higgs promises a sales-tax reduction of two percentage points if he’s re-elected.

Higgs is hoping his commitment, made at a campaign-style Progressive Conservative Party event last week, will have the same galvanizing effect provincially.

The opposition Liberals are making "change" the theme of their lead-up to the campaign, hoping voters are fed up with inflation, health-care wait times, overstuffed classrooms and six years of PC administration. 

Stephen Harper    In this CBC archival photo from 2005, then-candidate for prime minister Stephen Harper promised to cut the federal portion of the HST. (CBC)

The Tories are countering that by making the October election about a choice.

"This fall, New Brunswickers will have a choice to make, and the choices will be very different," Higgs said at last week's announcement.

"Do you want more money in your bank account? Do you want to make life more affordable?"

Of course, the choice Higgs is offering is the one he is choosing to offer voters. But there are others.

His opponent, Liberal Leader Susan Holt, has promised to take the HST off power bills.

It would save people some money, reducing tax revenue by $90 million compared to the hundreds of millions the HST reduction would cost the government.

Blaine Higgs Higgs is making choice a theme of his campaign as leader of the Progressive Conservatives. (Alix Villeneuve/Radio-Canada)

Holt says her proposal would leave the government room to spend more on health, education and other priorities.

"We've proposed things that we know we can do while continuing to be fiscally responsible," she said last week.

Last year the federal government took the HST off new rental apartment construction, hoping to boost the housing supply and stabilize the cost of rent.

It urged provincial governments to match the move. Nova Scotia did. New Brunswick did not.

There are other potential provincial tax cuts that might do more to help people who need it the most. 

The HST doesn't apply to basic groceries and to rent, so lower-income voters, who buy fewer big-ticket items and pay less HST overall, will save less from the cut.

Single New Brunswickers earning less than $21,343 pay no provincial income tax. The government could raise that threshold, exempting more people and leaving more money in their pockets.

But that wouldn't benefit all New Brunswickers, as an HST cut would.

Another choice the PCs have made is the timing of the reduction.

The government has recorded $2.4 billion in budget surpluses over the last four years.

Higgs told reporters last week that the HST reduction, once fully implemented, will deprive the provincial treasury of $450 million a year.

He said that until recently, his government couldn't be sure the big surpluses that make that reduction affordable — surpluses fuelled by unprecedented population growth — would last.

"We didn't have confidence in where it was going to land," the PC leader told reporters.

Now, he says, the windfall looks secure and predictable enough to reduce the HST.

But that will likely limit the government's ability to spend money to keep up with the very population growth providing the government with more revenue.

Last November's capital budget, for example, included just $10.2 million to start work on four new schools and two expansions of existing schools — far less than what's required to provide classroom space for the thousands of new students enrolling.

"It isn't going to completely meet all of next year's needs, in terms of new space," Education Minister Bill Hogan admitted at the time.

"It's impossible to do it all."

A lower HST rate — and $450 million less in revenue each year — would make it even more difficult.

Higgs said last week that building more new schools will be necessary but, because he won't run deficits, that may make other expenses impossible.

"Some things we can't avoid," he said. 

"There will be 'must-do's, and there will be 'nice-to-do's, and it will be very important for us to prioritize going forward how we manage that."

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Jacques Poitras

Provincial Affairs reporter

Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books about New Brunswick politics and history.

 
 
 
378 Comments
 
 
David Amos 
Methinks the spin doctors on both sides of the fence had quite a hoedown today N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
David Amos
Political parties must now disclose costs of N.B. election promises

2018 act requires disclosures within 90 days of an election

Sam Farley · CBC News · Posted: Jul 25, 2024 5:14 PM ADT

Too Too Funny

 
David Amos 
Stay tuned There will be more to follow 
 
 
David Amos 
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Methinks the spin doctors on both sides of the fence are having quite a hay day today N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos 
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"Do you want more money in your bank account? Do you want to make life more affordable?"

Duhhh???  

 
David Amos
"This fall, New Brunswickers will have a choice to make, and the choices will be very different,"
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos 
C'est Vrai
 
David Amos
Reply to David Amos
Its kind of obvious with so many of Higgy's old buddies quitting   
 
Deborah Reddon 
Reply to David Amos 
It's odd that Higgs is using the word 'choice' to express his campaign. It's the very thing he doesn't want citizens to have. Higgs does not believe citizens should have choice with whom they fall in love with.
 
 
 
David Amos
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Higgy said "This fall, New Brunswickers will have a choice to make, and the choices will be very different,"

C'est Vrai

 
 
David Amos
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Couldn't get "the boss" take on it JP? Better call Al and Aaron
 
Al Clark  
Reply to David Amos
Al and aaron(?) would need to call dave. He's got all the #s in his massive archive ;-)
 
 
 
Don Corey   
I suppose there was nothing but praise here for free spending Gallant when he jacked up the tax by 2% in 2016.
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey  
It was a well mixed crowd
 
David Amos
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Reply to Don Corey   
Go to the very first comments if you seek enlightenment or simply a little chuckle

David Amos
Reply to Don Corey
Stay tuned There will be more to follow
 
 
 
Don Corey  
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Liberals love to tax and spend. Any type of tax cut is simply beyond their comprehension abilities.
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey 
Susan Holt, has promised to take the HST off power bills. 
 
 
 
Don Corey  
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It’s always entertaining to read one of these anti-Higgs articles from Liberal Poitras.

It’s a feeble effort at best, trying to put a negative spin on the Higgs’ promise to reduce the 2% provincial portion of the HST that free spending Gallant dumped on us in 2016.

It’s actually a great move that everyone will benefit from. 

Yes, the middle class (that Trudeau has completely forgotten) will benefit a bit more, but why shouldn’t they?


 
 
Matt Steele  
Current Liberal leader Susan Holt was a special advisor to Brian Gallant's Liberals , and we all know how that worked out for N.B. taxpayers. Those that fail to learn from past history are doomed to repeat it .
 
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele   
Are we doomed to read your repeats?
 
 
 
Matt Steele  
Thank you for the tax cut Premier Higgs as I prefer to spend my money on what I need, rather than have government spend my money on what I don't need . The Conservatives and the Liberals are offering two opposing platforms . Premier Higgs and the Conservatives are offering less wasteful spending , lower taxes , and less government control and interference in the lives of N.B. families . Susan Holt is offering the opposite with massive government spending , more endless taxes , and total government control over N.B.ers , and the lives of their children . Their platforms are plain to see ; and N.B.ers will have the opportunity to choose this fall . Thank you Premier Higgs for your service to our province , most N.B.ers appreciate it !
 
Max Ruby
Reply to Matt Steele  
Terrible CBC wow
 
David Amos 
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Reply to Matt Steele   
Was that a cut and paste of an earlier comment? 
 
David Amos
Reply to Max Ruby 
Ditto
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman 
Vote for me and I might take 1% off the HST in a year or so seems to be Higgs' message.
 
Don Corey  
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Read the article. It’s a promise, not a “might”, and it’s 2% over 2 years. That sure beats a federal plan that loves to spread whatever they do over 10 or 20 years, and actually think people believe them.
 
David Amos
Reply to Don Corey  
Political Science 101 When things are going poorly promise a tax cut if elected
 
 
 
James Risdon
Here's a thought: Just axe the tax completely. Get rid of the HST.

Don't just nibble away at it. Remove it entirely.

And, while you're at it, also axe the carbon tax.

Without carbon taxes and the HST, New Brunswickers would get at least a bit of relief from the insane cost of living these days.

House and car prices have skyrocketed. Even eating in a formerly-cheap fast-food restaurant is now a luxury. Vacations? Forget them. In addition to the high cost of gas and diesel, everything else has become prohibitively expensive.

When I first moved to New Brunswick a couple of decades ago, gasoline was 65 cents a litre. It's now almost three times as expensive. THREE times!!!

The size of my paycheque hasn't tripled in that time.

Has yours?

David Amos
Reply to James Risdon
Dream on

MR Cain
Reply to James Risdon
I make money with the rebate as do 8 of 10 Canadians, and pollution from vehicles has fallen, so we can keep the price on pollution. 

Walter Vrbetic 
Reply to James Risdon
65 cents a litre for gas three decades ago...

1994 price of a barrel of oil was under $18...

Its about $80 today.

Walter Vrbetic 
Reply to James Risdon  
Oil 2004 about $40... so about half of todays.  
 
Mario-Pierre Gaudreau
Reply to James Risdon 
This makes absolutely no sense, at all. Taxes fund services, without which our system would crumble and fail. You think people have a hard time now? Imagine if they had to pay their own medical expenses? You want roads to drive on, or are you cool with dirt trails for highways? Homeschool all children or pay for private education? Are you rich? Because it isn't saving 15% tax and a few pennies at the pump that is going to allow me to pay for everything the government provides for my family and I.

We live under a government, keyword here is Govern. We pay taxes so we can reap the benefits of living in an actual society, this isn't feudalism. Taxes aren't the problem, corporate greed is.

Also, minimum wage was $5 three decades ago, it's $15 today. Triple.

Max Ruby
Reply to James Risdon   
My property tax has more tripled.
 
James Risdon
Reply to MR Cain
If you want more energy-efficient or electric vehicles, then buy them at the more expensive price.

There's no reason why I should pay carbon taxes so the government can subsidize those who make electric vehicles just so you can buy one more cheaply and virtue signal to the rest of us.

James Risdon
Reply to Mario-Pierre Gaudreau
It makes a great deal of sense. Taxes are inflationary. They add to the cost of goods and services.

But you do put forth a very valid idea. Taxes do pay for services. And some would have to be cut with less tax revenue.

I put forth a list of things that could be cut but that was vetoed by the powers that be who, apparently, want to keep their taxpayer-funded salaries and are perfectly willing to stifle discourse on a matter of public discourse to make that happen. 

James Risdon
Reply to MR Cain 
What do you do for a living and what is your level of income?
 
James Risdon
Reply to Walter Vrbetic
Which means we should encourage the Canadian oil industry to produce far more oil, green light pipelines, and do everything we can to make the most of our natural resources.
 
James Risdon
Reply to Max Ruby
Ask not what your country can do for you .... 
 
 
 
Gary Webber
Choice is clear don't vote for Higgs

Mike Van Fleet

Reply to Gary Webber
"Those who sip from the trough will be upset."

GM

David Amos
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Nay not I

Gordon MacFarlane.
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
😁
 
MR Cain
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more. 
 


Gordon MacFarlane

Another poster, thanks MVF, noted we are paying $100,000,000,000.00...Every year just to service public debt.

We all know this fun fact but most don't really seem to understand what it means

To spend one million dollars at a thousand dollars a day...it would take close to three years

To spend one billion dollars, at the same rate of a thousand dollars a day...

It would take close to three thousand years

One hundred billion dollars x three thousand years per billion....

And that is just debt servicing!

Fiscal madness that must be reigned in

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to Gordon MacFarlane
BTW, who can take a guess at what $1.00 in new public debt yields in value?

The answer is just $0.58.

Just 60 years ago it was $3.00, if I remember correctly.

The law of diminishing returns.

Bob Leeson
Reply to Gordon MacFarlane
I took advantage of it and decided to buy some of that debt in order to make extra money.

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to Bob Leeson
I invest in bank stocks and not because I favour fractional reserve banking or the debt based monetary system we find ourselves trapped in.

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to Bob Leeson
I invest in bank stocks and not because I favour fractional reserve banking or the debt based monetary system we find ourselves in.

Bob Leeson
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
I own bank stocks too. But for leveraging Canada's public debt, there are several ETFs backed by government securities to choose from. It was basically a defensive strategy, as I'm starting to get up there in age ;)

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to Bob Leeson
As long as the taxpayer back stops the banks, which, again, I do not believe in, I will continue to invest in them.
 
David Amos
Reply to Bob Leeson
We all own Bank Stocks
 
Bob Leeson
Reply to David Amos
Indirectly, through other funds like the CPP. However I hold 3 bank stocks directy.

Fun fact, some of that interest the government pays on its debt not only goes to me through the ETFs I own, but also the CPP since they also invest in government debt instruments.

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to Bob Leeson
Fun fact, by running a deficit, public debt, they are paying those service charges. It's like using your credit card to pay the interest on it. What eventually happens?

Bob Leeson

Reply to Mike Van Fleet
If I'm the recipient, I suppose I don't mind. Selfish choice I know, but money is money.

David Amos
Reply to Bob Leeson
Do you know why I came home and ran for Parliament in 2004?

Bob Leeson
Reply to David Amos
Err... to take part as an institutional investor in one of the BoC's bond auctions? I suppose you don't need to run for parliament to do that though.

David Amos

Reply to Bob Leeson
Review of Current Investigations and Regulatory Actions Regarding the

Mutual Fund Industry

Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003 Time: 02:00 PM

Topic

The Committee will meet in OPEN SESSION to conduct the second in a

series of hearings on the “Review of Current Investigations and

Regulatory Actions Regarding the Mutual Fund Industry.”

Witnesses

Witness Panel 1

Mr. Stephen M. Cutler

Director - Division of Enforcement

Securities and Exchange Commission

Cutler - November 20, 2003

Mr. Robert Glauber

Chairman and CEO

National Association of Securities Dealers

Glauber - November 20, 2003

Eliot Spitzer

Attorney General

State of New York

Spitzer - November 20, 2003

Bob Leeson

Reply to David Amos
Well great. I was never a fan of mutual funds. Too many fees.

David Amos
Reply to Bob Leeson
Why did I cause that hearing?

Bob Leeson
Reply to David Amos
No idea. Did you? In any case, I'm unsure of the relevance to profiting off government securities such as bonds, treasuries, GICs, etc.

David Amos
Reply to Bob Leeson
Everybody knows



Kyle Woodman
What tax cut? 1% in 2025 and another 1% in 2026 is the proposal no? If it was really a tax cut why doesn't Higgs just do 2% right now. He can you know. He's trying to quid pro quo himself some votes.

Le Wier
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Higgs is trying to get the small business owners votes.

Ed Franks
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Harpers government worked their way to a majority government by cutting the GST tax.

Kyle Woodman
Reply to Le Wier
I don't understand that. I am a small business owner. HST is a write off on business expenses.

Le Wier
Reply to Kyle Woodman
The story last week said the small business owners were happy with the tax cut, because people could get out and shop more.

Mario-Pierre Gaudreau

Reply to Le Wier
That's 2 dollars on every 100. Will that really motivate people to spend that much more? I don't think so.
 
Le Wier
Reply to Mario-Pierre Gaudreau
I agree 👍 
 
Ed Franks
Reply to Le Wier
Small business does not care what their customers pay in taxes. Business only collects and remits the tax money.

Ed Franks
Reply to Le Wier
Makes sense thanks Le Wier

David Amos
Reply to Le Wier
Do you believe everything you read?

Le Wier
Reply to David Amos
No. I don’t. Last week’s story about the cut to provincial sales tax didn’t convince me more people will be going shopping because of it.

Le Wier
Reply to Ed Franks
I agree, but they do care if they have fewer customers.
 
Don Corey
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Gallant jacked up the rate by 2% in 2016. No phase in….just “suck it up”. I suppose you were much more pleased with that approach.

BTW, a tax cut is a tax cut, period; be it phased in or immediate. 

 

Kyle Woodman
Blaine Higgs is a flim flam artist.

Mike Van Fleet

Reply to Kyle Woodman
Why?

Kyle Woodman
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Because he treats the electorate like rubes.

Mike Van Fleet

Reply to Kyle Woodman
Examples?

Mike Van Fleet

Reply to Kyle Woodman
So, you're just making the whole thing up. Why would you do that?

David Amos
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Ask the pensioners and the Crown lawyers why they sued Higgy

Kyle Woodman
Reply to David Amos
Thanks David.

David Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
Never forget why I sued 3 US Treasury Agents in 2002

Kyle Woodman
Reply to David Amos
I never forget anything you do.

David Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
Thanks back at ya

MR Cain
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Saving a thousand dollars with a 2% cut over 2 years in HST. If you believe that...



Mike Van Fleet

Who can take a guess at what $1.00 in new public debt yields?

BTW, I just found this out last night.

David Amos
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Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Better yet Why do you think I sued 3 US Treasury Agents in 2002?



Gordon MacFarlane
Those who sip from the trough will be upset.

Those who pay for the trough will be pleased

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to Gordon MacFarlane
I'm going to use that one.

Classic!

Gordon MacFarlane
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Please do.

Cheers Mike

John Montgomery
Reply to Gordon MacFarlane
Which of those people are fixing healthcare?

Matt Steele
Reply to Gordon MacFarlane
Truer words have never been spoken , and 100 percent correct .

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to John Montgomery
Healthcare, in its current form, may not be fixable.

John Montgomery
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Maybe not, but it would be nice if someone tried.

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to John Montgomery
I could fix it in ten years.

Pass balance budget laws

No more public debt is allowed

Revamped tax code of one page

Most important, end this private sector bureaucracy that is devouring the private sector.

John Montgomery
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
As long as I don't lose services that I use in the name of perusing your policy, I think that's a great idea.

Gordon MacFarlane
Reply to Matt Steele
Thanks Matt, I appreciate it

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to John Montgomery
We'll all have to suffer for a few years. It's happening right now but for the opposite reasons called over $100 billion/year to service the federal and provincial public debt.

John Montgomery

Reply to Mike Van Fleet
I'm fine with that too, as long as people suffer proportionate to their wealth.

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to John Montgomery
So, you are suggesting the gov confiscate the wealth of those richer than you?

John Montgomery
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
I'm suggesting everyone pay as they are able. I have a summer residence that is coming to me in my inheritance and I will need to pay more tax on it now, but I don't mind because I know people with smaller residences are paying less and people with bigger residences are paying more. That's the way it should be.

David Amos
Reply to Gordon MacFarlane
Surely you jest

David Amos
Reply to Mike Van Fleet
Will we see your name on a ballot this year?

Mike Van Fleet
Reply to David Amos
Nope, I'm retired. But, any politician could and should take this advice. It cuts to the root of a lot of problems.

David Amos
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Reply to Mike Van Fleet
BTW I asked you a far more important question and somebody flagged it
 
 
 
Mike Van Fleet 
Higgs, you've missed a golden opportunity to actually pay off the provinces debt really quickly and introduce balance budget laws.

What a shame.

David Amos
Reply to Mike Van Fleet  
Higgy missed that boat when he was Alward's Finance Minister
 
Ronald Miller 
Reply to Mike Van Fleet    
Your crystal ball appears to be a cloudy.
 
Mike Van Fleet 
Reply to Ronald Miller 
$12 billion in debt and over $600 million/year just to service it.

$600,000,000 a year.

Mike Van Fleet 
Reply to David Amos
I thought his name was Higgs.
 
Ralph Skavinsky
Reply to David Amos 
David Higgs was Finance guy, not Premier. I'm sure he had a plan, but his hands were tied.
 
David Amos
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Reply to Ralph Skavinsky 
Nope I explained my position on TV and in a debate when I ran against Higgy et al in 2018
 
 
 
Guy Newhere  
I think it's safe to say this whole left side, right side narrow minded politics thing isn't working out for anyone 
 
David Amos
Reply to Guy Newhere 
Amen
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Guy Newhere
I just want to elect someone that demonstrates some willingness to help people with more than just token offers that really will make little difference for them.
 
 
 
Matt Steele  
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Susan Holts was a special advisor to Brian Gallant's Liberals , and we all know how that worked out for N.B. taxpayers. History repeating itself .
 
David Amos
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Perhaps its time for lunch and a nap an let Lou take over for awhile    
 
 
 
Matt Steele
N.B.ers will have a choice this fall as the Conservatives and the Liberals are offering two opposing platforms . Premier Higgs and the Conservatives are offering less wasteful spending , lower taxes , and less government control and interference in the lives of N.B. families . Susan Holt is offering the opposite with massive government spending , more endless taxes , and total government control over N.B.ers , and the lives of their children . Their platforms are plain to see ; and N.B.ers will choose .
 
David Amos
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You are on quite a roll today eh?
 
 
 
kelly sherrard   
They will decrease the tax 2% and soon be taxing something else 5% so we are no further ahead but keep sliding further and further into the pit. The gov't needs to shake their heads and realize that its just a matter of time to find out what is the next thing they will be taxing in this province, the air we breathe?
 
Matt Steele
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Reply to kelly sherrard   
The FEDERAL government has doubled the size of the NATIONAL debt in just nine years . The FEDERAL debt was less than 600 billion NINE years ago , now it is 1.2 TRILLION , and rapidly increasing .
 
Bob Leeson
Reply to Matt Steele  
A pandemic will do that it seems. Luckily I don't have to cut my own hair anymore thanks to the support the feds gave to barber and salon businesses and their employees to keep the service sector viable during provincial lockdowns.
 
David Amos
Reply to Matt Steele  
You cannot say that I did not warn you  
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Matt Steele
I'd rather have a government that goes into debt helping people than a government that pays debt and does nothing for no one, if not cutting services and making life harder for many. 
 
Ronald Miller    
Reply to John Montgomery 
Tell me what services have improved under JT and his massive over spending? What improved under Gallant? 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to John Montgomery
So you think that the massive population explosion created by FEDERAL government policies over the past NINE years , and that has caused a severe housing shortage while forcing many out of their homes due to huge rent increases across Canada is helping Canadians ?
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Matt Steele 
Affordable housing initiatives have been cut by every PM in the last 30 years. I don't personally agree with immigration, no. But because the only reason Trudeau does it is so Tim Hortons can find employees that will work for minimum wage. I thought you would be all for anything good for business.  
 
Cathy Watson 
Reply to Matt Steele 
This is a PROVINCIAL election, though, ISN'T it?
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Ronald Miller
- He saved the police everywhere millions by legalizing pot

- He got dental for poor kids

- He increased health payments to the provinces

- He made daycare more affordable

- Canada had the second lowest inflation in the G7 behind Japan. So if Trudeau had anything to do with inflation at all, then he protected us from the worst of it.

I know there are more but I can't think of them right now.

John Montgomery
Reply to Cathy Watson  Conservatives tend to deflect a lot. 
 
Ed Franks  
Reply to John Montgomery 
I’d rather a government that improves opportunities for Canadians instead of going into debt and making life harder for many.
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Ed Franks  
It takes money to make opportunities.
 
Ed Franks  
Reply to John Montgomery 
Yes it does, that is called investing in the future and since it is investing than we should see a return on this investment. Borrowing money for day to day living is not a investment and will eventually end.
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Ed Franks  
Ok so how is Higgs investing for the future? Since paying debt isn't investing either.
 
Ed Franks  
Reply to John Montgomery 
Paying off debt is the first step to a great life. The second step is investing. You can do both at once but i like to pay off the debt and then invest. You know in case you lose a loved one or a job or get sick.
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Ed Franks  
Nah, I'm not a big gambler. Buying a house and a car was enough gambling for me. 


 
Matt Steele 
The Conservatives and the Liberals are offering two opposing platforms . Premier Higgs and the Conservatives are offering less wasteful spending , lower taxes , and less government control and interference in the lives of N.B. families . Susan Holt is offering the opposite with massive government spending , more endless taxes , and total government control over N.B.ers , and the lives of their children . Their platforms are plain to see ; and N.B.ers will have the opportunity to choose this fall . 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Matt Steele 
You mean wasteful spending like the travel nurse fiasco? 
 
David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
Good question 
 
Bob Leeson
Reply to Matt Steele 
I suppose the good news is that when families lose their homes under the conservatives in NB, they can save $4 on a $200 tent at Canadian Tire. They'll be smiling all the way to the bank, I'm sure.  The 
 
Matt Steele
Reply to Kyle Woodman 
Travel Nurse situation was an emergency situation , and the French Health Authority chose to use Travel Nurses to cover for staff shortages . Premier Higgs was not aware of , nor did he approve the cost of the Travel Nurses .
 
Bob Leeson
Reply to Matt Steele  
So the premiers office had no knowledge of travel nurses and the $174 million expenditure line-item? Is that even possible in a comparatively small province like NB?
 
Matt Steele
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Reply to Bob Leeson
The housing shortage across ALL of Canada was created by the current FEDERAL government , and their policies which created a MASSIVE population surge across the nation which Canada has never had to endure before . The provinces had nothing to do with this population explosion , or the lack of housing that it created . It was the FEDERAL government that caused it , and they continue to do so . 
 
Bob Leeson
Reply to Matt Steele 
What does that have to do with travel nurses? Are you suggesting that people moving to New Brunswick were responsible for letting the premier's office know about the travel nurses and expenditure? 
 
John Montgomery
Reply to Matt Steele
Higgs saved all kinds of money on maintenance payments, yet I don't see any difference around me.
 
Alison Jackson 
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Reply to Matt Steele
You boss...Mr Higgs you mean. 
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Matt Steele 
"Premier Higgs was not aware of" hahahahahaha. Do you really believe half the stuff you write?
 
Jim Lake  
Reply to Matt Steele  
Susan Holt is not offering “massive government spending”, nor “endless taxes” nor total government control … one should read the policies and platforms before spouting inaccuracies and misinformation.
 
Kyle Woodman
Reply to Jim Lake  
The truth is just an afterthought for Matt Steele.
 
David Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
C'est Vrai 

David Amos
Reply to Kyle Woodman
LOL
 
MR Cain 
Reply to Bob Leeson 
Mary Wilson, Minister of Economic Development and Small Business and Minister responsible for Opportunities NB, had to sign off on allowing soul source contract. Of course, Higgs knew. 
 
Jim Lake  
Reply to Matt Steele 
Susan Holt is not offering “massive government spending”, nor is she proposing “endless taxes” and not sure what policy you’re thinking about mentioning “total government control” … one should read the policies and platforms before spouting inaccuracies and misinformation. 
 
Jim Lake  
Reply to Matt Steele  
It is apparent you’re not following any of Susan Holt’s policies or comments … she is not offering “massive government spending”, nor is she proposing “endless taxes” and not sure what policy you’re thinking about mentioning “total government control” … one should read the policies and platforms before spouting inaccuracies and misinformation.  
 
 
 
Kyle Woodman
Higgs is grasping at straws. He isn't a leader and has no real ideas.
 
David Amos
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Reply to Kyle Woodman
Everybody knows and nobody cares
 
Kyle Woodman
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We shall see. 
 
 
 
Jos Allaire      
I didn't trust Higgs from day one. Once a COR always a COR❗I recall folks saying that he had changed. He never did.
 
David Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire 
Oh So True
 
 
 
Jos Allaire   
Trying to get elected with this is not going to cut it. Higgs is toast❗
 
David Amos
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Reply to Jos Allaire 
IMHO Cardy played him like fiddle 
 
 
 
Guy Newhere  
Elections these days are like trying to decide where you want to be punched ,there really isn't a good choice just one that hurts less
 
David Amos
Reply to Guy Newhere 
Well put 
 
Don Corey  
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Yet another predictable article from Liberal Poitras.

I suppose there was nothing but praise here for free spending Gallant when he hiked the GST by 2% in 2016

 
 
 

Political parties must now disclose costs of N.B. election promises

2018 act requires disclosures within 90 days of an election

 
Sam Farley · CBC News · Posted: Jul 25, 2024 5:14 PM ADT
 
 
A man walking into a building with yellow Vote Here signs New Brunswickers are now within 90 days of voting day, which means political parties are now required to disclose estimated costs for campaign promises. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)

As New Brunswick's fall election inches closer, political parties have now passed the 90-days-before-the-vote threshold.

And that means stricter disclosure rules are now in place.

From now until the election, scheduled for Oct. 21, political parties must file a disclosure statement with Elections N.B. indicating the estimated cost for every campaign commitment made. 

"The intent was, of course, to provide transparency to the electors, to voters of what the costs of commitments being made during an election campaign would mean to them at the end of the day as taxpayers," said Paul Harpelle, director of communications with Elections N.B. in an interview with CBC's Shift radio program.

Harpelle said there are three options parties can choose to provide on the disclosure forms: a cost estimate, a maximum cost estimate, or they can check a box that says no estimate has been provided.

"We ourselves have no control in validating whether or not the costing that they provide is sound," Harpelle said, but added that rival political parties can provide accountability by checking the numbers themselves. 

Harpelle said the goal is to "make sure that they've actually filed and that they've checked all the correct boxes in these different disclosure statements."

Paul Harpelle Paul Harpelle, spokesperson for Elections N.B., said the agency doesn't validate the estimated costs as true. (Submitted by Paul Harpelle)

All of these cost disclosures will be available publicly on the Elections N.B. website, under the "Political Financing" tab. As of Thursday, none of the six registered parties in New Brunswick have provided any disclosures.

When asked if Blaine Higgs's recent promise to reduce the HST if elected would need to be outlined in a cost estimate disclosure, Harpelle said not technically, since it was made on July 18, just days outside the 90-day window.

But if the party states the promise again within the 90-day window, this "will have to be followed by a disclosure statement," Harpelle said.

On Thursday, now within 90 days of the election, a post on X, formerly Twitter, by the Progressive Conservative Party promised the same commitment again.

"In this election, there is only one Party who will cut the HST. The choice couldn't be more clear to make life more affordable," the post states.

Included in the post is a photo of Blaine Higgs as leader of the Progressive Conservative Party under the words "will cut HST" next to side-by-side photos of Liberal Leader Susan Holt and Green Leader David Coon under the words "won't cut HST."

Financial estimates for political promises are due by Sept 19, the day the writs of election are issued, Harpelle said.

Most commitments made between Sept. 19 and election day require a disclosure to be filed to Elections N.B. on the same day they are made, he said.

Blaine Higgs HST reduction announcement Last week, Premier Blaine Higgs, as leader of the Progressive Conservatives, announced he would reduce the provincial portion of HST if elected again. This promise does not require a cost estimate because it was just outside the 90-day time period. (Alix Villeneuve/Radio-Canada)

There's an exception for commitments made by a party leader, which have a three-day window for estimates to be filed. This is to account for commitments made during a debate or leader's speech, Harpelle said.

Once the forms are filed, the supervisor of political financing has two days to examine the forms to make sure they are correct. If there are any errors or omissions, the chief electoral officer will reach out to the party to ask for a fix.

"If there are issues where they do not comply, then there are some consequences," Harpelle said.

A party could be prohibited from advertising for the rest of the election or be issued an administrative penalty, he said.

Harpelle said Elections N.B. held a training session for party officials earlier this year to go over the Transparency in Elections Commitment Act, which was proclaimed in 2018 and includes the financial disclosure requirement. 

This would only be the second New Brunswick election to fall under the disclosure requirement, since the 2020 election was called early. Unscheduled elections like that do not require financial disclosures to be filed for commitments.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Sam Farley

Journalist

Sam Farley is a Fredericton-based reporter at CBC New Brunswick. Originally from Boston, he is a journalism graduate of the University of King's College in Halifax. He can be reached at sam.farley@cbc.ca

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20 Comments
 
 
David Amos 
Methinks this is what Yankees call a nothing burger N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
William Murdoch 
This story is just too funny. 
 
David Amos
Reply to William Murdoch
Ditto
 
 
 

Expensive promises for N.B.'s October election are piling up. But will they be honoured?

Long history of parties sidestepping commitments after winning won't happen this year, they insist.

 
Robert Jones · CBC News · Posted: Aug 06, 2024 6:00 AM ADT
 
 
Blaine Higgs HST reduction announcement Blaine Higgs is promising Progressive Conservatives will reduce the provincial portion of the HST if elected again. The party says big money promises from previous elections that were not honoured will not be repeated this year. (Alix Villeneuve/Radio-Canada)

A history in New Brunswick of expensive campaign promises not being honoured once an election is finished will not be repeated this year, provincial political parties are insisting.

Heidi Cyr, a senior communications adviser and press secretary to Blaine Higgs, said voters can count on the premier to honour a $450-million commitment he made last month to lower the provincial sales tax rate by two percentage points over two years if he is re-elected in October.

"New Brunswickers can trust that thanks to strong fiscal management, including paying down our debt, we are now able to phase-in a 2% cut to the HST," said Cyr in an email about the promise.

"New Brunswickers will be able to see this tax cut roll out on a clear schedule."

WATCH | CBC Explains: Promises, promises:
 

Why N.B. election promises can't always be trusted

New Brunswick political parties have a long history of making expensive election commitments and then wiggling out of them once in office. As pricey promises pile up again in advance of October’s general election, parties insist it won't happen this time.

It is a firm commitment from Progressive Conservatives, but New Brunswick political parties have a long history of sidestepping expensive and what appeared to be equally firm commitments made to voters during previous elections.

Higgs himself entered public life in 2010 and one of his first tasks after being appointed finance minister by then premier David Alward was to wriggle out of a pricey election property tax promise Alward had made to seniors weeks earlier. 

Fort Howe apartment building Progressive Conservatives promised in the 2018 election to 'eliminate' provincial property taxes on apartment buildings once government finances improved. They didn't. The Fort Howe apartment building in Saint John was among hundreds issued provincial property tax bills this year. It was charged $63,000, about $412 per apartment. (Robert Jones/CBC)

Higgs said the promise, which involved permanently freezing the assessed value of houses belonging to anyone over the age of 65 for as long as they owned and lived in their home, was a poor idea and too expensive.

Instead, Higgs concocted a much cheaper scheme where seniors could defer paying tax increases until they died or moved. 

Legislation was passed to allow the province to place liens on participating seniors' homes so it could collect unpaid taxes, plus interest, later.  

The substitute plan was not well received, and only a fraction of eligible seniors have ever signed on to it.

"The property tax commitment in the platform, I realize that what we did, did not meet the expectations of what people thought they were going to get," Higgs explained at a public meeting in 2011 about why the promise was not honoured as written.

"In 10 years time, it would have cost the province $173 million."

During his own period as party leader, Higgs has also made the decision to walk away from expensive campaign promises.

In the 2018 election under Higgs, PCs made a commitment to "eliminate" provincial property taxes on apartment buildings as government finances improved.

David Alward and Blaine Higgs Blaine Higgs entered public life in 2010. As former premier David Alward's minister of finance, one of his first moves was to kill a pricey tax promise Alward made to seniors in the 2010 election. (CBC)

The party promoted the idea as a benefit to tenants and although government finances did improve dramatically, provincial property taxes on apartment buildings remain.

This year, the provincial government is still collecting, in most cases, between $350 and $600 in property tax per apartment unit in New Brunswick for itself on top of what local governments charge.   

On some buildings that represents no tax reduction at all.  

A request to interview a government representative about what happened to the property tax promise was not granted, but in her email, Cyr blamed the failure on the COVID-19 pandemic and the need to  "re-prioritize the use of all fiscal resources." 

New Brunswick did cut tax rates on apartment buildings by half in 2023 but rapidly rising property assessment valuations on the same properties at the same time offset much of those changes.

Despite the size of the commitment to eliminate all provincial property taxes on apartment buildings, which PCs estimated to be worth $90 million in 2018, Higgs has rarely mentioned it.

In July in Moncton as he announced his new promise to cut the HST, Higgs appeared to suggest he had not made any unfunded election commitments in 2018, let alone ones he didn't keep.

"Consistently we have seen governments announce tax cuts or announce spending programs before they could actually afford them," said Higgs.    

"I didn't do that in 2018."

In an interview, New Brunswick Liberal Leader Susan Holt said that history will "absolutely" undermine Higgs's credibility with voters on whether he can be trusted to honour a significant promise this year like cutting the HST.

Shawn Graham Former New Brunswick premier Shawn Graham narrowly won New Brunswick's 2006 provincial election. However, a promise he made to voters to rebate HST amounts on heating costs to help secure that win was broken almost immediately. (CBC)

"They remember well that this premier promised to eliminate those taxes on rentals, the double tax, and then did not deliver on that promise," said Holt.

"So there's a lot of skepticism that the premier's HST promise is for election purposes and that they won't follow through on the whole thing."

Liberals are proposing their own sales tax cut this year. They have a $100-million plan to drop the provincial portion of the HST on residential electricity prices but have their own history of not honouring all election commitments.

In the 2006 election, Liberals made a similar promise to the public to rebate the HST on home heating costs, but after winning the election quickly reneged.

A woman with light hair and glasses stares as she is asked a question in a hallway. New Brunswick Liberal Leader Susan Holt is promising there will be no post-election backpedaling on commitments by her party this year if it wins office in October. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

"We will not be moving forward with the previously announced rebate," said new Liberal finance minister, Victor Boudreau, in December 2006, just two months after his party took office.

Like Progressive Conservatives, Holt says whatever has happened in the past there will be no flip-flopping on election promises after the election this year.

"If we put something in a platform and we promise to New Brunswickers that we will do it, then we have to do it," said Holt.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Robert Jones

Reporter

Robert Jones has been a reporter and producer with CBC New Brunswick since 1990. His investigative reports on petroleum pricing in New Brunswick won several regional and national awards and led to the adoption of price regulation in 2006.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
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Mayor's Office

Andrew J. LeBlanc is currently serving his first term as Mayor of Riverview.

His worship is the head of the Town Council and along with seven
Council members sets various policy directions for the Town
administration to implement.

The Mayor acts as the liaison between the CAO and Council and works
closely with staff to promote Riverview as a Great Place to Grow.

Former Mayors:

    Ann Seamans - 2012 - 2021
    Clarence Sweetland - 2004 - 2012
    Bruce Fitch - 1998 - 2004
    Dean G. Johnston  - 1992 - 1995
    W. David Richardson - 1986 - 1992, 1995 - 1998
    David M. Cudmore - 1983 - 1986
    Ralph E. Caseley - 1977 - 1983
    Harold B. Findlay - August 1973 - 1977


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Sunday, 9 July 2023

50 years on, Riverview has grown from just 3 houses to largest town in
New Brunswick

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/riverview-city-town-growth-rural-1.6900281

50 years on, Riverview has grown from just 3 houses to largest town in
New Brunswick
Residents value small-town feel, but Riverview also has big-city challenges

CBC News · Posted: Jul 09, 2023 9:00 AM ADT


A black and white aerial shot of a field with houses next to a river
and bridge. A few more than three houses can be seen in this undated
photo of Riverview, with the old Gunningsville Bridge at the top left.
(Submitted by Town of Riverview Archives)

Phillip Dobson was born in a town with three houses.

That town is now home to 20,000 people and is bigger than four cities
in New Brunswick.

Phillip Dobson is celebrating Riverview's 50th anniversary by
remembering the impact his father, Byron Dobson, had on the town.
Byron was a property developer responsible for much of the area's
growth after the Second World War.

"Everybody thought he was crazy," Phillip Dobson said. "Why would
anybody cross the bridge to live in Riverview when they could live in
Moncton?"

man in sunny room, smiling at camera. Phillip Dobson says his father,
who helped build the town, would be 'astounded' to see it today.
(Khalil Akhtar/CBC)

The answer may lie in the difference between the two. Riverview only
officially became a town in July of 1973, and it has no plans to
become a city. Although neighbour to two of the province's largest
cities — Moncton and Dieppe — the town's identity is rooted in that
four-letter word.

"We like the fact that we're a town because it contributes to that
closeness that we have as a community," said Mayor Andrew LeBlanc.
"We're quite happy to continue to be the largest town in New
Brunswick."'

Phillip Dobson lived in the old farmhouse his dad built for himself a
few decades before Riverview became Riverview. The house is now in the
heart of town, surrounded by homes, schools, shops and parks.

A grainy black and white photo of an old house.   An old photo of the
house where Byron Dobson lived with his parents. The image is from A
History of Riverview - A Bicentennial Project (1984), a project of the
Riverview Bicentennial Committee and the Riverview Historical
Association, with the support of the Riverview mayor and council,
according to Mareika Dow, spokesperson for the municipality.
(Submitted by the Town of Riverview)

Phillip said his father would be "astounded" to see the town as it is right now.

"I think this exceeds his expectations," he said.

LeBlanc has lived in Riverview for the last 30 years. He said lots has
changed, especially the number of buildings and commercial
development, but some things are still the same.

"We've been able to maintain that really close-knit feeling, that
community atmosphere, that feeling of supporting one another," he
said.

Man at podium Riverview Mayor Andrew LeBlanc says the town can grow
and still remain a tight-knit community. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)

LeBlanc said the town is no exception when it comes to serious issues,
such as homelessness and the housing crises sweeping across the
country, which is why some growth is necessary, despite some pushback
to any development.

"Not all growth. It's smart growth," he said. "And making sure that
the growth fits to the vision of the town and in what we need."
Everything changes except desire to stay the same

Dobson said resistance to development is also nothing new. He
remembers making a presentation about a condo development he was
working on in the '80s and people booing and throwing things at him.

"It was on TV and my daughter, who was in school in British Columbia,
saw me on television with stuff flying past me," he said.

But Dobson said as much as change is scary, he's learned in his 80
years that nothing stays the same. And change is sometimes important
to make communities healthier.

"How long can we just keep building houses ... [that are] so
separated." he said. "We have a problem with carbon in the air. We
have to do something about it."
Information Morning - Moncton 8:36
Riverview turning 50

​Within a generation, Riverview has grown to become one of the largest
municipalities in the province. As the town marks its 50th
anniversary, Khalil Akhtar sat down with Phillip Dobson, whose father
helped transform the place across the river from Moncton.

LeBlanc said despite all the growth, the town has still managed to
keep its identity. To do this, he said it takes everyone agreeing that
community matters most — green spaces, youth and social clubs and
accepting each other's differences.

"Welcoming to newcomers and new cultures, new diverse backgrounds, the
LGBTQ community," he said. "We're trying to be a welcoming community
for everybody and whether we're a town or a city, we can achieve that
goal and we have been achieving that goal."

With files from Khalil Akhtar
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39 Comments



David Amos
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Deja Vu Anyone??

Is your neighbour in a different federal riding? This is why

‘It's a bit like Rubik's Cube,’ says retired professor who helped
reshape New Brunswick ridings in 2012

Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Oct 19, 2019 8:00 AM ADT

At an intersection along Whitepine Road in Riverview, drivers are
besieged by election campaign signs, far more than your average
high-traffic corner.

That's because the road marks the border between two federal ridings —
Moncton-Rivervew-Dieppe to the north, Fundy Royal to the south. The
boundary cuts Riverview almost in two, and Mayor Ann Seamans says it
can be confusing for residents come election time.



David Amos
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I wonder how many folks in Riverview ever voted for me




danny rugg
The mindset of the vocal minority. Oppose what you fear. First it was
the no brainer removing the big dam in the river, one dam left to go,
but build a park around it first. They have little retail , not retail
friendly, just houses. But hey, look at the crowd swelling to oppose
the next apartment building to put people who want to live there and
pay taxes. There should be organized bus tours to Dieppe to show the
stuck in the mud folks all the nice things they have over there, like
government offices and jobs, a downtown and new car dealerships and
lodgings. Maybe another generation and better education and Riverview
might get with the program. The MLAS they pick ain't helping much,all
they have to excell in is hanging at the local bar and fishing to get
elected.


Alison Jackson
Reply to danny rugg
Umm...Riverview is residental town. Thats what they want to be, why
are you scolding all of us? None of us want it to be a sprawing
metroploitan area.


Ronald Miller
Reply to danny rugg
Many years of Lib gov'ts have certainly thrown a lot of money Dieppe's
way, go figure.


Jos Allaire
Reply to Ronald Miller
That's what you get for always voting the same way even if a blue
lampshade was the candidate.


Ronald Miller
Reply to Jos Allaire
I have voted for 4 different parties in my time because I vote based
on performance and not what SANB tells me to do.





Ken Dwight
"Although neighbour to two of the province's largest cities — Moncton
and Dieppe —

-

Dieppe is not one of the two largest cities in NB. Saint John and
Fredericton both dwarf Dieppe.

Michel Forgeron
Reply to Ken Dwight
The article says "...neighbour ro two of the province's largetst
cities..." This relates to the neighbouring cities, are you saying
Riverview is a neighbour of Saint John and Fredericton?


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Michel Forgeron
Try a different rabbit hole if you wish to split a hare


claude bourgeois
Reply to Ken Dwight
two of...not the two,


Alison Jackson
Reply to claude bourgeois
Yes "two of the " would suggest Dieppe is pretty much as large as
Moncton. It isn't, not even close.





Raymond Leger
Riverview is "Greater Moncton".


Bob Smith
Reply to Raymond Leger
No, it's not. Dieppe and Riverview are separate from the land of Arnold.


David Amos
Reply to Raymond Leger
So you say



Jos Allaire
Some previous posts touched on the subject without actually pointing
out the real reason. If Riverview becomes a city, it will have to
provide bilingual services as is required by law.


David Amos
Reply to Jos Allaire
C'est Vrai


Michael Cain
Reply to Jos Allaire
I think it depends on how many of the minority, like 20%.


Jos Allaire
Reply to Michael Cain
What you think is not the law. All New Nouveau-Brunswick cities must
have their by-laws in both official languages and provide bilingual
services.


Michael Cain
Reply to Jos Allaire
This is a town. There is also a 20% rule.


Jos Allaire
Reply to Michael Cain
 It is a town and this is why it will remain a town for the reason
that I stated.

35(1)A municipality whose official language minority population
represents at least 20% of its total population is required to adopt
and publish its by-laws in both official languages.

35(2)A city is required to adopt and publish its by-laws in both
official languages irrespective of the percentage required under
subsection (1).

35(3)A municipality or city to which subsection (1) or (2) applies
that adopts a new by-law or amends an existing by-law after December
31, 2002, shall do so in both official languages.

35(4)Except in the case of a by-law referred to in subsection (3), a
municipality or city to which subsection (1) or (2) applies, other
than Moncton, shall adopt and publish its by-laws in both official
languages on or before December 31, 2005.

35(5)Subsection (3) applies, with the necessary modifications, to the
minutes of council proceedings.

Steve Gordon
Reply to Jos Allaire
If that is the case, it is an excellent reason to stay a town.


Jos Allaire
Reply to Steve Gordon
Yet, they don't dare to say it.


Noel Sherwood
Reply to Steve Gordon
agreed


Noel Sherwood
Reply to Jos Allaire
that is because people will call them anti french instead of wanting
their own community. the language politics in this province is
ridicules





Bob Smith
Riverview is pro residential but has had a long standing aversion to
all things business. Oh, and I've lived in Riverview since mid
seventies. It's been a lot bigger than three houses. As far as
amalgamation goes, Riverview doesn't want it and neither does Dieppe
for language reasons primarily. Riverview is, well, an odd place to
grow.


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Bob Smith
Did you ever vote for me?


David Amos
Reply to Bob Smith
Yup





claude bourgeois
Dieppe and Riverview are really Moncton whether you like it or not.


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to claude bourgeois
Nay not so


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to claude bourgeois
Nobody cares




Raymond Leger
That's the first place that should've been amalgamated with the City
of Moncton.


William Peters
Reply to Raymond Leger
Not on cultural grounds. The Petitcodiac river separates the diverse
SE of NB from the COR regions. Gunningsville had an English speaking
identity, and it for long had that cachet. It has functioned as a
bedroom community to Moncton for Albert County which is about as
different, culturally speaking, as it could be to Westmoreland county.
I do think that this sort of division actually still matters to the
current political establishment we have.


Raymond Leger
Reply to William Peters
There are many communities that have culturally speaking differences
that were recently forced to amalgamate.


David Amos
Reply to William Peters
Oh so true


Terry Halverson
Reply to Raymond Leger
Forced being the main word there. I much prefer to be in the town of Riverview.


Bob Smith
Reply to Raymond Leger
So bring that up when next you visit Dieppe. See how that goes.


Raymond Leger
Reply to Terry Halverson
There are a lot of people in towns and villages who would have
preferred not to be forced to amalgamate with another entity.


Raymond Leger
Reply to Bob Smith
Maybe getting rid of the name "Moncton" would help. Definitely not a
name that people of Acadian descent like to be reminded of.


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Raymond Leger
Cry me a river


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to Raymond Leger
Oh My


Bob Smith
Reply to Raymond Leger
Ok. I vote for Steevesville. The Steeves family helped found Moncton.


Raymond Leger
Reply to Bob Smith
That would be better




Zoe Richmond
"The green green grass of Home." What an awesome village Riverview was
and now town. Thank you for the memories!


David Amos
Reply to Zoe Richmond
My Father is buried under the green green grass of Riverview




June Arnott
Lets hope that new building units will actually be affordable to help
the homeless! Riverview is not what it was even twenty years ago. The
crime goes unanswered too!


David Amos
Content Deactivated
Reply to June Arnott
Take it up with the RCMP


Ken Dwight
Reply to June Arnott
What crime? You seem obsessed with crime, you mention it like the area
was Chicago



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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/federal-riding-boundaries-electora-disctrict-readjustment-1.5325518

Is your neighbour in a different federal riding? This is why
‘It's a bit like Rubik's Cube,’ says retired professor who helped
reshape New Brunswick ridings in 2012

Colin McPhail · CBC News · Posted: Oct 19, 2019 8:00 AM AT



The next time riding boundaries shift could be after the 2021 census,
but does that mean you and your neighbour might end up in different
ridings? (Mike Heenan/CBC)

At an intersection along Whitepine Road in Riverview, drivers are
besieged by election campaign signs, far more than your average
high-traffic corner.

That's because the road marks the border between two federal ridings —
Moncton-Rivervew-Dieppe to the north, Fundy Royal to the south. The
boundary cuts Riverview almost in two, and Mayor Ann Seamans says it
can be confusing for residents come election time.

Multiple residents on Brewster Street, one street south of Whitepine,
told CBC News they should be included in the riding with neighbouring
Moncton. They say their interests are not as closely aligned with
Fundy Royal communities like Sussex and Quispamsis.

Seamans made a similar point in 2012 when officials readjusted the
boundaries and opted to maintain the border through Riverview. Seven
years later, the two-term mayor said she was speaking up for her
residents, but she doesn't think the split has negatively affected the
municipality.

It's better to have two MPs in your corner than one, she said.

It's not the only boundary in New Brunswick's 10 federal electoral
districts that may raise an eyebrow.


The latest boundary for the Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe federal riding.
(Elections Canada)

Dieppe has a chunk of the city belonging to Beauséjour. Rothesay and
Quispamsis, two communities that share several municipal services, are
in different federal ridings. Rural villages south of Grand Lake, like
Gagetown and Cambridge-Narrows, are tied to the Fundy Isles riding.

There are many communities along every boundary that would seem to be
a more appropriate fit in the adjacent riding, but the line has to be
drawn somewhere. And it's not an easy task for those charged with the
duty.

Elections Canada describes the independent commissions that redraw the
lines as "high-wire balancing acts" — a fair comparison, according to
Patrick Malcolmson.

The retired political science professor was appointed to the
three-member commission that readjusted the boundaries in 2012. He
described the process and what it was like to walk that high wire.
How are federal ridings reshaped?
The Constitution requires that federal electoral districts be reviewed
after each decennial census.
Redistribution, as it's called, is led by independent commissions
established in each province.

A commission is permitted to tweak boundaries but not the number of
ridings. For New Brunswick, that means keeping it at 10. The
commission makes its recommendations, accepts feedback during public
hearings and delivers a report to the chief electoral officer.


The current map of federal ridings in New Brunswick. (Elections Canada)

House members can object to the recommendations in the report. The
commission must consider any objection but is not compelled to make
any changes. A final report is submitted to the Speaker of the House.
Once the speaker tables it, the commission's decisions are final.

Reflecting on the framework, Malcolmson said the Canadian system is
probably "one of the best systems, at least at the federal level, that
exists." He said typically people with legal or academic backgrounds
are appointed to the non-partisan commissions.

"You find that, you know, basically the commissions are made up of
people who have a lot of expertise and have no political axe to
grind," he said.

They seek to improve representation, he said, not to manipulate
constituency boundaries for political purposes, the gerrymandering
often seen in the United States.
What criteria are used to adjust boundaries?
Each commission is given an "electoral quota," the number of residents
permitted in a single district. It's essentially the province's
population divided by number of ridings.

Commissions must draw the boundaries to be "as close as reasonably
possible" to the electoral quota. In New Brunswick, the number during
the most recent redistribution in 2012 was 75,117.

But they have some wiggle room.

    It's a bit like Rubik's Cube, you know, because if you do that you
have to change the boundaries somewhere else.​​​​

    - Patrick Malcolmson

The riding population has to remain within a 25 per cent margin on
either side of the quota.
That's almost a 40,000-person window to work with in New Brunswick.

But it's still a tricky task, given the continuing migration to urban
centres and depopulation of rural New Brunswick. Because of the
population shift, the 2012 commission faced a crucial fork in the road
early on in its work.

One option was adding surrounding population to urban centres and
making more urban ridings — two each for the Moncton, Saint John and
Fredericton areas — reducing the number of mixed or rural districts to
four. The other option was to take a bit from urban centres and add to
the other districts.
Commissioners opted for the latter.

"It's nice to sort of say, 'Well, we should have two ridings for each
[region] of the major cities,'" Malcolmson said, "but I think you'd
have quite a groundswell of discontent from people who live outside
the cities that now they're really not going to have a voice. And I
think they already feel that they don't have a voice."

The Riverview/Fundy Royal issue began with a proposal to put all of
Dieppe in the Beauséjour riding, leaving Moncton and Riverview as one.
But residents of Dieppe objected. So to meet the population quota,
parts of Riverview and Moncton were moved into adjacent ridings
instead.
"I think we were sort of caught on two sides and, ultimately, made
what we thought was the best decision," he said.

"It's a bit like Rubik's Cube, you know, because if you do that you
have to change the boundaries somewhere else."
What else is taken into account?
Commissions also need to consider manageable geographic sizes for the
districts and communities of interest.

A community of interest is a key idea in shaping the boundaries in
order to enhance representation.

The notion is open to interpretation, but Elections Canada calls it a
"counterweight" to the cold, hard math of divvying up things by
population.


The 2012 redistribution commission changed the name of the Saint John
riding to Saint John-Rothesay to better reflect the geography.
(Elections Canada)

"Strict population equality may well mean the splintering of otherwise
natural communities," that share municipal boundaries, economic
interests as well as social, racial, religious or linguistic
characteristics.

On multiple instances, francophone groups in the province challenged
boundary adjustments out of concern it would diminish francophone
representation.

The Federal Court made history in 2004 by halting a boundary change
that sought to move some Acadie-Bathurst residents into the
predominantly anglophone Miramichi riding.

The New Brunswick commission tasked with the 2002 redistribution also
proposed having every First Nation vote in the Miramichi riding, even
though only three were in the geographic area. The idea was to boost
Indigenous representation, but the plan was met with heavy opposition
and eventually scrapped.

During the 2012 redistribution, the commission decided to roll
Belledune into Acadie-Bathurst. The village, which is located between
Campbellton and Bathurst, was previously part of the Miramichi riding
"for no apparent reason," the commission wrote.
What's next?
The next decennial census is scheduled for 2021, meaning another
boundary readjustment will soon be upon us.

"I would imagine the trend towards, you know, greater urbanization in
the province has continued and there's a sort of process of rural
depopulation happening," Malcolmson said.

"At some point, whether it's this time or next time, you're going to
reach the tipping point and there's going to have to be a more
substantial redistribution than there was.

"The commission will have to look pretty, pretty hard at redrawing
those boundaries, and that will not be a walk in the park."


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David Amos
Methinks everybody knows that I am running again in Fundy Royal again
but like lots of folks I can't vote there because I live just across
the line as well N'esy Pas?





Kelly Alder
Wish sackville Nb could be put in a different federal riding. Now we
are lumped in with the majority of francophone communities and
basically will be liberals til end of time federally. Haven’t seen
domitwit Leblanc in 20 years. Doesn’t even need to campaign to win.


Oscar Acosta
Reply to @Kelly Alder: Hopefully Laura shakes things up



David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Kelly Alder: I feel your pain I was born in Sackville and
raised in Dorchester until 1967. When Little Louie centralized the
government my Father who was the County Administrator for Westmorland
County Dad lost his job and had to take the job offered in Fat Fred
City as the Supervisor of Taxation for the Province. He provided
faithful and ethical service to the the folks in NB until he died way
too young. Trust that it was a job my Father hated but he did enjoy
forcing the Irving Clan to pay their property taxes. Later my Mother
married the former Chief Electoral officer and a very Proud CoR Party
member just like Premier Higgs once was.

Furthermore my Brother in Law's law firm partner is Brian Mosher. As
the VP of the PC Party for the Maritimes Mosher assisted Petey Crybaby
MacKay in merging with Harper's Party Methinks it should be a small
wonder to R.B. Bennett's ghost as to why my Father's wild child has
run for public office 7 times N'esy Pas?






Natalie Pugh
Federal riding boundaries are one thing but the way they determined
polling stations is completely ridiculous. My advanced polling station
was 36 km north of my residence but there was an advanced station 2km
south of us. Residences 1 km to 4 km north of us were designated to
the advanced station 2 km south of us! Great way to encourage people
to vote Elections Canada!!


David Amos
Reply to @Natalie Pugh: I was not allowed to vote from 2000 until this
year even though my name has been on 7 ballots from 2004 til now Go
Figure





Vernon A McPhee
I think the premise that the commission is trying to balance the
rural/urban divide is just a smokescreen. The only actual challenges
mentioned was to ensure that the Francophone representation is kept
artificially high enough.


David Amos
Reply to @Vernon A McPhee: I concur




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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 12:26:21 +0000
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 12:26:11 +0000
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 09:26:08 -0300
Subject: Methinks it was interesting that CBC shut down the comment
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On 9/17/22, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2022/09/25-more-codiac-rcmp-officers-18-support.html
>
> Saturday, 17 September 2022
> 25 more Codiac RCMP officers, 18 support staff could cost more than $10M
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/codiac-rcmp-policing-board-meeting-1.6584864
>
>
> 25 more Codiac RCMP officers, 18 support staff could cost more than $10M
> Plan would represent 25 per cent increase in Moncton-region policing budget
>
> Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Sep 16, 2022 7:00 AM AT
>
>
> The Codiac Regional Policing Authority is looking to add more than two
> dozen Codiac RCMP officers to police Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview,
> though the plan requires budget approval by the communities. (Shane
> Magee/CBC)
>
> Twenty five more Codiac Regional RCMP officers and 18 support staff
> could cost more than $10 million annually, a steep price that has an
> oversight board looking at spreading the hiring out over several
> years.
>
> The recommendation to add staff was adopted into the Codiac Regional
> Policing Authority's plans in a unanimous vote without any public
> debate by its board members.
>
> Implementing the hiring still requires approval by councils in
> Moncton, Dieppe and Riverview.
>
> No costs were given during the meeting, which ended early after the
> board chair called for security because an advocate for defunding
> police spoke longer than the five minutes allowed for public speeches.
>
> Don Moore, chair of the Codiac Regional Policing Authority board, says
> the cost to hire 25 more officers and 18 more civilians could top $10
> million per year if implemented. (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Don Moore, the board chair, offered the figure to reporters after the
> meeting.
>
> "Our desire is that we get full implementation of these resources for
> 2023," Moore told reporters.
>
> "However, we've been asked by the three municipalities if we could
> lessen the financial pain to the three municipalities by having either
> a three or five year plan."
>
> The recommendation followed consultations with 80 groups or
> individuals that began last year, concluding more officers were needed
> to address concerns about police visibility and public safety in the
> region.
>
>     25 more RCMP officers recommended for Moncton region to address
> public safety concerns
>
>     RCMP will have regular presence in Moncton-area high schools this year
>
> The recommendation, presented behind closed doors to councils last
> month, would significantly increase the existing 147-member force. The
> plan called for 10 more members of a community policing unit that
> already has six officers, 10 officers to revive the area's disbanded
> traffic unit, and five focused on drug and property crimes.
>
> The 18 civilian staff would be on top of 79 existing positions that
> include administrative staff and employees at the operational
> communications centre taking calls from the public and talking to
> officers.
>
> The plan's estimated cost would represent a 25 per cent increase over
> the 2022 budget of $39 million. That budget is paid for by the three
> communities. Moore said public presentations to councils in those
> communities are expected in October.
>
> Courtney Pyrke of Saint John says there's a concern that if Moncton
> adds more officers the same will happen in other New Brunswick
> communities. (Shane Magee/CBC)
>
> Courtney Pyrke of Saint John says it doesn't make sense to be spending
> more money on police instead of other services.
>
> Pyrke in an interview said they are concerned that if Moncton adds
> officers, the same could happen in Saint John and elsewhere in the
> province.
>
> Pyrke's speech to the board was cut off after going over a five minute
> time limit, one of several speakers critical of policing services or
> plans to put officers in the region's six high schools that were cut
> off or told to leave the meeting.
>
> Saly Davis was told to leave after saying a board member's question
> about integration of immigrants was racist. Davis walked out calling
> Moore a "white supremacist."
>
> Moore asked a commissionaire to intervene when Hafsah Mohammad went
> over the time and said she'd be prohibited from speaking at future
> meetings.
>
>     Group calling for defunding police seeks role with board
> overseeing Codiac RCMP
>
>     Moncton council won't sanction councillor for Facebook posts
> attacking activist
>
> Pyrke said people felt ignored.
>
> "I think that the reason why perhaps it got a little bit hostile is
> that it's a topic that a lot of people really care about and they
> don't feel like they're being heard," Pyrke told reporters.
>
> "For me personally, I'm from Saint John, so maybe my voice isn't
> necessarily that important in Moncton, but the folks who are here who
> are from Moncton, they felt as though that they're not being heard."
>
> Moore later told reporters that he was following the board's meeting
> procedures that include time limits for public comments and it wasn't
> personal.
>
> He said during consultations that led to the recommendation for more
> officers, none of the groups had advocated for reduced spending on
> police.
> ABOUT THE AUTHOR
> Shane Magee
>
> Reporter
>
> Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC. He can be reached at
> shane.magee@cbc.ca.
>
>     Follow Shane Magee on Twitter
>
> CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
>
>
>
> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/09/ndp-apologizes-for-saint-john.html
>
>
> Wednesday, 16 September 2020
> NDP apologizes for Saint John candidate's 'profane remarks' directed
> at other politicians
>
> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
>
>
>
>
> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
>
> Content disabled
>
> Methinks it would be a good day to remind folks of the ERRE Committee
> coming to Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
>
> https://openparliament.ca/committees/electoral-reform/42-1/39/david-amos-1/
>
>
>  #cdnpoli #nbpoli
>
>
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ndp-courtney-pyrke-profane-remarks-higgs-long-1.5726796
>
>
>
>
>
> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Replying to @DavidRayAmos  @alllibertynews and 49 others
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>                                        Methinks many political animals
> understand why I enjoy encountering a critic with what appears to be a
> real name as per the rules of a public forum we are all paying for
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> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/09/ndp-apologizes-for-saint-john.html
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ndp-courtney-pyrke-profane-remarks-higgs-long-1.5726796
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> NDP apologizes for Saint John candidate's 'profane remarks' directed
> at other politicians
> Courtney Pyrke could face discplinary action for tweets aimed at
> Blaine Higgs, Wayne Long
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> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Sep 16, 2020 6:46 PM AT
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> Courtney Pyrke, NDP candidate for Saint John Harbour, could face
> disciplinary action from her party over tweets directed at Blaine
> Higgs and Wayne Long. (Submitted by Courtney Pyrke)
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> The interim leader of the New Brunswick NDP is condemning
> election-night comments by one of the party's candidates and says he
> is looking at "disciplinary action."
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> Mackenzie Thomason apologized for what he called "wholly unnecessary
> and profane remarks" by Courtney Pyrke aimed at Saint John-Rothesay
> Liberal MP Wayne Long and Premier Blaine Higgs.
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> At 9:57 on election night, Pyrke, the NDP candidate in Saint John
> Harbour, tweeted a photo of a bottle of wine next to a paper cup with
> the words "F--- Blaine Higgs."
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> Later that night Pyrke tweeted a crude anatomical pun about Long's
> name while comparing him to an NDP MP who represented the federal
> riding where they used to live in Hamilton, Ont.
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> Interim NDP Leader Mackenzie Thomason described the comments as
> 'wholly unnecessary and profane.' (CBC News)
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> In a press release, Thomason condemned the "outbursts" and said they
> didn't reflect NDP values and were made without his consent.
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> "We have our differences, we have our passions, but when you attack
> personally, and use comments such as that on a personal level, that's
> something that contravenes the political process, contravenes good
> will and it's not promoting dialogue," he said in an interview.
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> Thomason said such behaviour would not be tolerated and the party was
> "exploring disciplinary action for these and other remarks," but he
> said he wasn't aware of the details of the NDP's internal process,
> which he said would be confidential.
> Candidate at odds with party officials
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> Pyrke, who identifies as non-binary and uses the pronouns they and
> them, said the criticism was "fair" but the party had not contacted
> them to discuss the tweets before issuing the press release. They
> learned of the statement from CBC News.
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> Pyrke also said the party was upset about Pyrke's questioning of how
> party officials were controlling Thomason's schedule and how they were
> "running the show", instead of the interim leader himself.
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> "I had basically been shut down and told I didn't understand," Pyrke said.
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> "Every time I asked these types of questions, they treated it as if I
> was attacking them, and that I wasn't being understanding, and that I
> was new so I don't get it."
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>     Online activist seizes the spotlight with police critique
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> Thomason said a "very professional" team of people came forward to
> help the NDP campaign and "it was made very clear to the candidates
> that this was what was going on, and it seemed to not sit well with
> certain candidates.
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> "Differences arise and differences are okay. We have to have those
> conversations, but they have to be respectful."
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> Pyrke would not commit to staying involved with the NDP. "This is not
> the party that I support from my home town in Hamilton."
> Long surprised by apology
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> Long said he was surprised by Thomason's apology "but I was happy to
> see it. I don't think personal attacks of that nature have a place in
> politics."
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> Saint John MP Wayne Long says personal attacks of that nature don't
> belong in politics. (CBC)
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> On Monday, Pyrke finished fourth in Saint John Harbour, a one-time NDP
> bastion, with 5.9 per cent of the vote.
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> That's the lowest total for the NDP in the riding since it was created
> before the 1995 election.
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> However, that result far exceeded the NDP's province-wide 1.6 per cent
> share of the popular vote and the 1.3 per cent Thomason received in
> Fredericton North.
> About the Author
> Jacques Poitras
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> Provincial Affairs reporter
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> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC
> political podcast Spin Reduxit.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Methinks it would be a good day to remind folks of the ERRE Committee
> coming to Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
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> https://openparliament.ca/committees/electoral-reform/42-1/39/david-amos-1/
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> David Amos
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> BINGO
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> David Amos
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> Methinks they don't understand the circus N'esy Pas?
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> Andrew Purdy
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> Reply to @David Amos: Your a broken record, nes pas?
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Andrew Purdy: Methinks many political animals understand why
> I enjoy encountering a critic with what appears to be a real name as
> per the rules of a public forum we are all paying for N'esy Pas?
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> Matt Astell
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>                  I don't see a problem with it any more than any of
> the other hypocrites out there being hypocritical. Now if they
> actually had any sort of chance of being elected, that's a different
> matte
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> David Amos
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>             Reply to @Matt Astell: Methinks that their political
> opponents being hypocritical is just another thing the other
> hypocrites fail to appreciate N'esy Pas?
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> Matt Astell
> Reply to @David Amos: Oh, probably. I have no doubt that most of the
> people slagging them for making those comments would be rushing off to
> like them if it was made by someone of their political persuasion.
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> Rick Randall
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> It's is a good thing that "it" killed its own career. It already is a
> frightening sight on a billboard but you should see the ones that have
> tomatoes smashed on them. It looks like something out of a horror
> movie. "It" has been removed. I can now sleep better knowing that "It"
> isn't going to jump out of my closet in the middle of the night with a
> perverse blood thirst.
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> Allen Boboo
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> Reply to @Rick Randall: Didn't Steven King write a book titled "IT"
> about evil clowns?
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>  David Amos
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> Reply to @Allen Boboo: Methinks some folks are beginning to understand
> why I called this nonsense a circus N'esy Pas?
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> Terry Tibbs
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>              If a speck of dust breaks wind in the forest does anyone
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> David Amos
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>         Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks many people would wonder how
> that was possible and whether or not it is a sign of new life in our
> nearly dead forests N'esy Pas?
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>  Terry Tibbs
>  Reply to @David Amos:
> I would have to say the significance is about equal.
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> Buford Wilson
> Mackenzie is right to reprimand her.
> Courtney ought to be ashamed of herself.
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> James Risdon
> Reply to @Buford Wilson: In all fairness, the NDP leader should be
> ashamed of the election results himself.
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> Talon World Order
> Reply to @Buford Wilson: oh dear, you didn't use proper pronouns!
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @James Risdon: I disagree The young man stated his opinions
> very well . Its not his fault not many people in his riding agreed
> with him
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @James Risdon: BTW You should not deny that the young man got
> more votes that you and I did in the last provincial election Correct?
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> Ben Haroldson
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> Nbers are too set in their political ways. Nothing will ever change
> around here. It's gotta be an ego problem.
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> Al Borland
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> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: What?
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> James Risdon
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> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: Well, you can't improve on perfection. ;-)
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @James Risdon: So says a former Irving spin doctor
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> James Risdon
> Here's a simple test: If you had a party at your house, would you
> invite the type of people the NDP has recruited to run as candidates
> to attend your soiree?
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> If not, ask yourself why you would vote for someone you wouldn't want
> in your home.
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks anyone with two clues between their
> ears would not attend your soiree N'esy Pas?
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> James Risdon
>  Northern New Brunswick should just secede from the rest of the
> province. We're already bigger than the entire province of Prince
> Edward Island. We should just declare ourselves our own province.
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> Acadia.
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> We already have a flag, a national anthem, an official language. All
> we need is the territory.
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> Corrie Weatherfield
> Reply to @James Risdon: and maybe the money provided by other parts of
> the province ???
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> Ian Scott
> Reply to @James Risdon: by by.
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> James Risdon
> Reply to @Ian Scott: You all drop by now, you hear?
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Ian Scott: I second that emotion
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> James Risdon
> Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Thanks. Don't mind if we do.
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> Lou Bell
> Reply to @James Risdon: Haiti North !!
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> Lou Bell
> Reply to @Lou Bell: Haiti would approve ! They'd be promoted to the
> second poorest country in the world . Both Francophone by the way .
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> Ray Oliver
> Reply to @James Risdon: you have my vote on that one!!!
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> Theo Laviyne
> Reply to @Corrie Weatherfield: Thats true we don't pay taxes up here lol.
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> Terry Tibbs
> Reply to @James Risdon:
> Brains, you forgot brains.
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> Luke Coughlan
> Reply to @James Risdon: Yeah..we've been hoping you would for 100
> years kinda. Make sure to bring your EI rolls with ya
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> Marc Martin
> Reply to @James Risdon: k.......
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> Fred Brewer
> Reply to @James Risdon: Excellent idea!
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Lou Bell: You prove that to be a fact on a daily basis
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> Reply to @Lou Bell: Roland Michaud had it right. Higgs bring us back
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> Friday, 31 July 2020
> Online activist seizes the spotlight with police critique
> https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
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> David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
> Methinks the RCMP should have informed the Saint John politicians and
> their cops about I handle my concerns about their lack of Integrity
> within Twitter etc a long time ago N'esy Pas?
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> https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/07/online-activist-seizes-spotlight-with.html
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-caitlin-grogan-online-activist-spotlight-1.5669341
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> Online activist seizes the spotlight with police critique
> 'It's made a change and I'm not going to apologize for that part'
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> Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jul 31, 2020 6:00 AM AT
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> Caitlin Grogan said she wasn't looking for attention when she
> criticized the Saint John Police in a tweet in June. (Jacques
> Poitras/CBC)
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> Caitlin Grogan says she wasn't looking for attention in early June
> when she dropped an f-bomb on the Saint John Police force.
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> But that's what she got: attention for her, and for her cause.
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> That single phrase in a single tweet, "f--- the @saintjohnpolice,"
> made her the most prominent of several new voices forcing themselves
> into political debates in the city around policing, transit and other
> issues.
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> "I don't necessarily feel like I belong in the spotlight," she says.
> "I haven't done anything of incredible importance. I'm just a person
> in the community."
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> On the other hand, in the last eight weeks, "I've had more contact
> with politicians than I have had in my entire life."
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> cait
> @thecaitdiaries
> so, the saint john police doesn’t recommend charges for 80% of sexual
> assault reports? and that’s like... acceptable?
> 7:18 PM · Jun 18, 2020
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> The Saint John police reacted to her tweet by blocking her, but
> quickly unblocked her.
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> Since then Grogan has deployed the f-word at least one other time and
> has told people to "shut up," though she says that was registering
> disapproval, not trying to silence them.
> MP deletes Twitter after debate
> She has also got under the skin of some politicians, most notably
> Saint John-Rothesay Liberal MP Wayne Long.
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> After a heated online discussion about a photo showing Long on a boat
> with some friends, one of them holding a beer, the second-term MP
> deleted his Twitter account.
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> "Advocacy is important. Waking people up to listen to your message is
> important," says Long, a prolific social-media user himself.
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> With a single tweet, Caitlin Grogan put herself at the centre of a
> political moment in Saint John. She's part of a burst of online
> activism that politicians have been unable to ignore. 4:53
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> "But when it leaves issues-based discussion, and turns to personal
> attacks that's when I think it's counterproductive. And to be
> perfectly frank, it's destructive."
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> After Long made similar comments on CBC's Information Morning Saint
> John last week, Grogan tweeted, "Imagine being the most ineffective MP
> in history and trying to pick a fight with your most annoying
> constituent."
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> Other Saint John politicians haven't pushed back. Coun. David Hickey
> says social media is "not necessarily the most productive place" to
> take on politicians, but he says the swirl of debate has been healthy.
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> Saint John MP Wayne Long deleted his Twitter account after a heated
> debate with Caitin Grogan over a photo. (CBC)
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> "It's also creating a bigger conversation around what insightful and
> meaningful engagement means with the community and with community
> partners."
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> In a way, it's a story as old as politics, now being told in
> 140-character bursts on smart phones.
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> Young activists push for change. Establishment figures get uncomfortable.
> Approach criticized
> It raises age-old questions: is it better to criticize from the
> outside or try to work from inside the system? When is it time to stop
> asking nicely?
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> "The only reason anyone is paying attention to this right now is
> because I swore one time at the police," Grogan says. "It's made a
> change and I'm not going to apologize for that part."
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> Grogan says the criticism of her approach, that she's too "angry" and
> needs to smile more, is rarely levelled at male activists, and
> besides, it's just the "persona" people see online.
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> "I get [called] angry a lot, which is really surprising, because
> people who know me personally [know] that is so not me."
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> Except she is angry, she says in the next breath, about the number of
> sexual assault cases labelled "unfounded," for example.
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> "I think you have to be angry," she says. "I think if you're not angry
> you're not paying enough attention to what's happening."
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> Grogan has a lighter side. She tweeted at Mayor Don Darling that the
> city should buy Theodore the Tugboat, which Halifax officials put up
> for sale this summer.
> Changes needed
> But it's making change that drives her, and that's where it's harder
> to measure her impact.
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> She mentions that the email addresses for members of the Saint John
> Board of Police Commissioners are now listed online, and that the
> Kennebecasis Regional Police Force plans to pilot a civilian sexual
> assault review process.
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> Grogan used the provincial right-to-information law to get a breakdown
> of the different reasons the city police cited for not laying charges
> after sexual assault complaints.
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> Those are tiny steps that raise other eternal political questions: how
> fast is fast enough when it comes to change? How rapidly can it happen
> without triggering a backlash and endangering progress?
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> "I'm like the instant gratification generation," Grogan says. "'We
> want change and we want it now.'"
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> Saint John city Coun. David Hickey said the debate has been healthy
> and is creating a bigger conversation around what insightful and
> meaningful engagement means. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
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> She recognizes that's not always realistic. She says it was unfair for
> another Twitter user to slam Saint John Mayor Don Darling for not
> defunding the police immediately.
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> "But at the same time …  while it may take years for the Saint John
> city council to substantially cut the police force budget, it would
> not take them years to at least acknowledge that that's something they
> want to look at or will look at."
> Not interested in politics
> Of course, Twitter isn't real life. It's not as widely used as other
> social media platforms, and it can be an echo chamber for politicians,
> activists and journalists.
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> Real decisions happen in real life.
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> "I had a lot of people reach out to me and ask if I was going to put
> my name forward to the police board or if I was going to run in the
> next municipal election," Grogan says.
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> "Both of those are resounding no's. That's not the way I want to make
> a difference right now. When you're working from the inside you have a
> lot more power but you also have a lot more rules that are put upon
> you."
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> Other like-minded activists are taking the plunge, though.
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> Courtney Pyrke, a board member of the new activist group Flip Saint
> John, recently applied for a vacant spot on the police board and
> several other municipal bodies.
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> "When Don Darling and Wayne Long and those politicians said, 'Why
> don't you do something?' I looked up what positions were open and I
> put my name forward because I think they have a point," Pyrke said.
> Progressive activism
> Flip Saint John was formed by a group of progressive activists who
> found each other online and decided to work together.
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> The group recently tweeted that it wants to avoid online bullying and
> was working on a code of conduct for its board members.
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> "We want to take these, as people would describe it, 'angry voices' or
> 'angry people online,' and turn that into something more productive,"
> Pyrke said, adding, "I didn't see an issue with how Cait expressed her
> concerns or the things that she was recognizing."
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> While she's not interested in being on the police commission board or
> running for municipal politics, Grogan is learning more about how
> government works. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
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> Darling says the debate sparked by Grogan, Flip Saint John and Black
> Lives Matter has prompted an "uptick" in the applications for vacant
> spots on the police board.
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> "So I am confident at the end of this we'll have a stronger police
> commission when we're done," he says.
>
> Grogan, meanwhile, says she has gained a more detailed understanding
> of how government institutions work.
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> "Today I'm going to sit through a growth committee meeting and learn
> about an affordable housing strategy for the city," she says. "Prior
> to all of this I wouldn't have known that the city was even looking to
> create an affordable housing strategy."
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> Despite Grogan's better appreciation of how slow-moving governments
> can be, and despite the blowback, "I would say things seem more
> possible" than they were before that first tweet, she says.
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> "It's shown that there is sort of a new type of politics coming, some
> new engagement. Young people are 'aging up' to the age now that
> they're able to vote and get involved, and there is that generational
> change."
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> About the Author
> Jacques Poitras
> Provincial Affairs reporter
> Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
> Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC
> political podcast Spin Reduxit.
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> David Amos
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> Methinks the RCMP should have informed the Saint John politicians and
> their cops about I handle my concerns about their lack of Integrity
> within Twitter etc a long time ago N'esy Pas?
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> Ray Oliver
> Call me Darlin we will blow the whistle together.. LOL. Yeah. I'm a bad
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> David Amos
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> Methinks CBC, Wayne Long, the Saint John Cops and the RCMP should
> admit that when it comes politicking withinTwitter the little lady
> does not hold a candle to mean old me N'esy Pas?
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> Dan Stewart
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> Reply to @David Amos: Any CBC articles about you lately Dave?
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> David Peters
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> Reply to @Dan Stewart:
> All this article is about is an f bomb dropping...in the meantime, our
> regions small and medium-sized businesses are reporting that their
> businesses are quickly becoming unsustainable.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Dan Stewart: Methinks you should ask yourself why there
> NEVER has been N'esy Pas?
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> Dan Stewart
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> Reply to @David Amos: I am pretty sure I know why
> Dave... You, maybe not so much.....
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> Harvey York
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> Reply to @Dan Stewart: we all know why
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Harvey York: Methinks it follows that you dudes also know
> why it is illegal that they didn't N'esy Pas?
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> Dan Stewart
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> Reply to @David Peters: I agree that it is in fact more about the
> expletive used than anything else and that's actually a sad commentary
> on much social media these days.
> Our economic woes while always a struggle here have most certainly
> suffered because of the world wide pandemic.. But that's not what this
> article is about.
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> SarahRose Werner
> A tweet that does nothing but drop the F-bomb on a group or individual
> is not activism. It's just complaining. By reacting so strongly to
> this particular complaint, politicians have encouraged more of the
> same. If you want to make change, first learn how things work.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Methinks you think the young lady doth
> protest too much N'esy Pas?
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> Matt Steele
> Yep , certainly sounds like a product of the N.B. School System .
> Sounds like someone who would throw a hissy fit by cursing and
> swearing at a teacher , then threaten the teacher with a false
> allegation if they can't get their way . Society teaches them well .
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Matt Steele: Methinks you and I were schooled by the same
> system So who are you to judge the young lady's actions merely because
> the corporate media and the politicians noticed her words and not
> yours N'esy Pas?
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> Aloysius McGillicuddy
> Calling someone the "most ineffective MP in history" is not activism.
> It is Trumpism. Back in the day, people used to write "letters to the
> editor". The editor would decide what was reasonable enough to print.
> Now anyone with a smart phone gets the mic. And they often have no
> expertise. So if 80% is not acceptable, what is? 81%? 85%? There was
> no discussion of the results of the access to information and why
> there were not charges. Should people be tried without evidence?
> Should we spend time on trials where there is zero chance of
> conviction and clog up our legal system even more? This kind of
> twitter "activism" is just not constructive, its just yet another
> loudmouth getting attention.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Aloysius McGillicuddy: Methinks you should know that much to
> the chagrin of many a cop I used to consume your Menthol Mint
> concoction by the gallon N'esy Pas?
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> James Risdon
> Ever think that maybe a lot of cases actually are unfounded or do not
> have sufficient evidence to move forward? Ever think that maybe the
> police are actually doing their jobs?
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @James Risdon: Methinks its time for your nap and have sweet
> dreams about KISS Party days N'esy Pas?
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> Steve Ryan
> Reply to @James Risdon:
> You want her to think? No, people like her don't think, they just tweet.
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> James Risdon
> Reply to @Steve Ryan: Well, maybe she's capable of deep thought but
> was simply expressing a quick reaction at the time. I don't know her
> so I can't say.
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> Mac Isaac
> In previous generations the norm for entry into politics was to become
> involved in some sort of community organization; then that involvement
> matured to that of community leadership and then on to elected office.
> Like most people my age, we WANT younger people to be engaged in their
> communities. Maybe this method of engaging through social media is as
> good a method as how it was formerly done but one thing I do know is
> either way requires a good foundation and education on the issues and
> the practicalities of your methodologies. Such blanket statements as
> "f--- @saintjohn police" needs some reflection on how effective such
> antagonism can be to the goal of improving/changing those things you
> want improved/changed. Such statements will most certainly make you
> visible but, at some point, you will need cooperation from some of the
> very people you've alienated.
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Mac Isaac: Methinks Trudeau the Younger broke that mold N'esy
> Pas?
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> Why would you give the CBC access to frame your story? You don't have
> to want to run for office to point out the obvious, or serve as a
> necessary vehicle of catharsis when police get out of hand, or
> criticize what is manifestly stupid about politics, government and its
> different departments.
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> You don't need to do those things because nobody put guns to the heads
> of the people currently working these jobs. They took high profile
> jobs that attract criticism. That's on them.
>
> Cute though. The tactic, I mean. Oh dear what have I done..
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Justin Gunther: What have you done?
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> Jake Newman
> why doesn't she put her name forth for the police commission, why
> doesn't she become a police officer---oh wait easier to criticize
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> Winston Gray
> Reply to @Jake Newman: says the guy commenting on a CBC article about
> how easy it is to “do something”
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> Ronald Parker
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> Reply to @Jake Newman: As you just proved, it is easy to criticize.
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> Justin Gunther
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Ronald Parker: Much easier to have blue wall task forces
> than public inquiries as well.
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> Terry Saxton
> Reply to @Jake Newman: so to criticize you have to be a policeman,
> commissioner ,can’t do it as an ordinary citizen, what country are you
> from?
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Jake Newman: What is it you do that is so special?
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> SarahRose Werner
> Reply to @Jake Newman: Given that Grogan is only now gaining "a more
> detailed understanding of how government institutions work," I'm glad
> to hear that she doesn't plan to join the police commission at this
> time. She's not ready.
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> Larry Larson
> Time to replace the Saint John force with cops who want to do the work!
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Larry Larson: Dream On
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> Larry Larson
> Reply to @David Amos: Hey! Les rêves sont bons!
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> Douglas James
> Long is quoted as saying: "But when (social media) leaves issues-based
> discussion, and turns to personal attacks that's when I think it's
> counterproductive. And to be perfectly frank, it's destructive."
>
> When I raised an issue about the census snooping into private lives,
> this MP sat on the sidelines and gleefully watched live as his
> principal assistant tried to publicly humiliate me on social media.
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> Wayne Long is a hypocrite.
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> Tom Simmons
> Reply to @Douglas James: of course he is, it's part of being a liberal.
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> Winston Gray
> Reply to @Tom Simmons: better than a Crookservative
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> Tom Simmons
> Reply to @Winston Gray: In Canada, LIB / Cons are two sides of the
> same coin. We don't have real conservative party here.
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> Winston Gray
> Reply to @Tom Simmons: is that a veiled way of saying that the
> conservative values you hold dear are so heinous that no party
> represents those values? Good to know.
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> Tom Simmons
> Reply to @Winston Gray: No I'm saying both the Liberal Party...and the
> Conservative Party (both are left of center, liberal are farther left)
> are one and the same. Really look at the platforms, it's the same.
>
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> Dan Stewart:
> Reply to @Tom Simmons: Not having "a real Conservitve party here" Is
> this government's saving grace. Now if the Federal party could figure
> that out we would all be in a better place.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Douglas James: "Wayne Long is a hypocrite"
> Methinks many would agree that he is worse than that N''esy Pas?
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> David Peters
> Reply to @Tom Simmons:
> The only party that offers a different platform, that's reasonable
> imo, is the libertarian party.
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> Aloysius McGillicuddy
> Reply to @Douglas James: A census does not snoop. It collects data
> that can be turned into information so that we have more effective
> public policy. So anti-"snoopers" are misguided and supporting
> ideological rather than scientific public policy. This is ruining the
> country. There's many protections of data anonymity in the collection
> of census data.
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> Ian Scott
> Its one thing to sit and type nasties to people on a screen, its
> another to come out in the community and say things face to face or in
> a committee when maybe not everyone shares your ideas and to get your
> point across pleasantly and with statistics and reality to back you
> up.
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> James Smythe
> Reply to @Ian Scott: Have you ever tried to schedule a face to face
> meeting with a politician, especially one higher up the food chain?
> It’s near impossible. There’s almost no accountability anymore. I
> commend this young lady for taking a free app and making her voice
> heard. Is it sad that’s what it’s come to? Of course, but the burden
> of arriving here does not rest solely on her shoulders.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Ian Scott: Methinks Mr Long and his cop buddies must admit
> that I am not afraid of running for public office and suing the Crown
> as well N'esy Pas?
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> Al Clark
> Reply to @David Amos: You couldn't run 30 feet for a doughnut! ;-)
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> Al Clark
> Reply to @David Amos: To sue you have to fill out a form and pay a
> fee. Emails don't count.
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> The be nice approach NEVER works.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Ben Haroldson: I know that to be a FACT OF LIFE
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> David Peters
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> Reply to @Ben Haroldson:
> It does with nice, reasonable ppl, but many of those simply leave here.
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> Gil Murray
> Lots of people like attention. Activist and politician - same coin
> different side.
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> Ken Dwight
> Reply to @Gil Murray: Or people commenting on social media boards. We
> post comments because we want the attention, so what's the difference?
>
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Ken Dwight: Methinks the big difference is I comment on
> social media boards in order to support my litigation N'esy Pas?
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> Michael G. L. Geraldson
> Never underestimate the power of social media, or a woman's wrath!
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> David Amos
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> Reply to @Michael G. L. Geraldson: Oh So True
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> Matt Steele
> Ms. Grogan , like everyone else , has an opinion , but very little
> will change . Sadly , N.B. is one of the poorest provinces in Canada ,
> with one of the lowest ranked education systems , highest unemployment
> rates , oldest populations , and nepotism in govt. hiring that is out
> of control ; .and other than the population getting even older , I
> have not seen any of these things change in the last 40 years . Ms.
> Grogan is young and idealistic , but as she gets older , she will
> learn what the reality really is in N.B. ; and then she must accept
> that she can stay , or she can go....and many folks who want to be
> successful have chosen to leave N.B.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Matt Steele: How should we regard your constant opinions?
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> Chris Merriam
> Yeah, she's a real hero.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Chris Merriam: If you say so
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> Chris Merriam
> Reply to @David Amos: Time for you to go to bed, little guy. I think
> you've had enough internet for today.
>
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> Harvey York
> Reply to @Chris Merriam: it's the end of the month. Needs to go cash
> his cheque and refill his meds.
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Chris Merriam: Methinks its interesting that two RCMP shills
> followed me to a far more important story today that has been long
> delayed in closing much to the chagrin of Mr Long et al N'esy Pas?
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> David Peters
> This is sort of interesting, but, what about the letter the local
> hotel association sent to city council on Monday night? A 5% occupancy
> rate? What have we allowed a few authoritarian's to do to our economy?
>
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> Winston Gray
> Reply to @David Peters: the only authoritarianism in this country is
> being committed by the UCP in Alberta.
>
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> David Amos
> Content disabled
> Reply to @Winston Gray: Yea Right
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> David Peters
> Reply to @Winston Gray:
> What's an example of ucp policy that's authoritarian?
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