David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks that is easily the funniest video Chucky Leblanc published in YouTube yesterday
about New Brunswick and hardly anyone has watched it yet N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/httpstwitter_22.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxeQdOnN2qc
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
"Its not over til the Fat Lady Sings" ??? Methinks it kinda comical that that your blogging buddy Chucky Leblanc and his sneaky "It Guy" Andre Faust often use my expressions N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/httpstwitter_22.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxeQdOnN2qc
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
You nd your old buddies in the Propaganda Machines of @JustinTrudeau & @BrianGallantNB et al want folks to share your words so I put your blog at the bottom of mine Methinks the fools in @TheManateeMag may get snicker N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/straight-pride-flag-1.4872572
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Valentina Tereshkova "When have heterosexuals been discriminated against?"
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Methinks many lawyers know my wife and I were in Massachusetts in 2002 N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/httpstwitter_22.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/straight-pride-flag-1.4872572
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks that Trudeau The Younger's beloved peoplekind don't seem to understand that what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/httpstwitter_22.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/straight-pride-flag-1.4872572
New Brunswick village angers residents with 'straight pride' flag
'To put up a straight pride flag is almost like putting up a swastika,' says Minto woman
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 22, 2018 12:34 PM AT
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David Amos
Methinks folk should listen to CBC N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/maritime-noon/episode/15618349
Straight Flag in Chipman, Underwater Seal Encounter, Phone In: Paint Expert Jim White
Oct 22, 2018
The village of Chipman, N.B. has raised a straight pride flag. Why some people wanted it flown and why others want it pulled down. A photojournalist talks about his underwater encounter with a friendly seal. And paint expert Jim white takes calls.
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/maritime-noon/episode/15618349
Straight Flag in Chipman, Underwater Seal Encounter, Phone In: Paint Expert Jim White
Oct 22, 2018
The village of Chipman, N.B. has raised a straight pride flag. Why some people wanted it flown and why others want it pulled down. A photojournalist talks about his underwater encounter with a friendly seal. And paint expert Jim white takes calls.
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David Amos
Methinks the editing in this comment section is truly astounding N'esy Pas?
Marc Martin
We now live in a society that
does not tolerate anything anymore. Even tough the right to free speech
is in the Charter, people do not respect these rights anymore. Maybe
its time we started being a communist country, I mean we have a Charter
that no one wants to respect anymore.
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you should intervene in my legal matters then cry me a river N'esy Pas?
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Jim Dandee
Apparently some folks are deeply offended by heterosexuals.
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stephen blunston
stephen blunston
@Jim Dandee and don't try
flying an English flag either in NB for some reason it not allowed but
you know the Acadian flag is allowed .. if good for some of population
the rest should also have that right
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Peter Hill
Peter Hill
@Jim Dandee
looks like that is because some heterosexuals seem to be offensive.
looks like that is because some heterosexuals seem to be offensive.
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Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@stephen blunston
*and don't try flying an English flag either in NB for some reason it not allowed *
Who said its not allowed ? The thing is you don't want to raise an English one you want the Acadian one to be lowered that's a totally different thing.
*and don't try flying an English flag either in NB for some reason it not allowed *
Who said its not allowed ? The thing is you don't want to raise an English one you want the Acadian one to be lowered that's a totally different thing.
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Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
@Jim Dandee
And a white pride flag isn’t offensive?
Come on!
And a white pride flag isn’t offensive?
Come on!
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Gregory James (Political Junkie)
Gregory James (Political Junkie)
@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
Isn't a white pride flag. Is a straight pride flag.
Nothing racist about it. There are straight Asians, Blacks and Natives too.
Isn't a white pride flag. Is a straight pride flag.
Nothing racist about it. There are straight Asians, Blacks and Natives too.
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stephen blunston
stephen blunston
@Marc Martin I don't mind the
Acadian flag at all I did have an issue with not being allowed to fly
the anglaphone one , well at least in this city it wasn't allowed
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Art Rowe
Art Rowe
@Jim Dandee
Seems like you can only display an object showing pride in something as long as it isn't mainstream. Any and all deviations from that can show their flags etc, but not the general ordinary folks.
Seems like you can only display an object showing pride in something as long as it isn't mainstream. Any and all deviations from that can show their flags etc, but not the general ordinary folks.
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Jay Lockie
Jay Lockie
@Peter Hill - "looks like that is because some heterosexuals seem to be offensive."
It's not the heterosexuals having pride parades where some actually have sex right in the street, something that the other 364 days is considered a criminal act. I've even seen pics of it happening in front of children. But hey, to he** with those children, product of the hetero-patriarchy or some other nonsense.
It's not the heterosexuals having pride parades where some actually have sex right in the street, something that the other 364 days is considered a criminal act. I've even seen pics of it happening in front of children. But hey, to he** with those children, product of the hetero-patriarchy or some other nonsense.
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Kent Moodie
Kent Moodie
@Jim Dandee
Heterosexuals are expected to accept other groups but it's funny when its reversed....who's the stereotypical groups now?!
Heterosexuals are expected to accept other groups but it's funny when its reversed....who's the stereotypical groups now?!
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Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
@Jay Lockie
PROOF? Or is that just mor made up righ tist nonsense?
PROOF? Or is that just mor made up righ tist nonsense?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Dandee Methinks that
Trudeau The Younger's beloved peoplekind don't seem to understand that
what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander N'esy Pas?
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Eddie Brock
Eddie Brock
@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy) "And a white pride flag isn’t offensive?"
Why is it that all but white people can organize around their own ethnic self-interest?
Why are only minority identarian groups allowed to celebrate their identity?
Why is it that all but white people can organize around their own ethnic self-interest?
Why are only minority identarian groups allowed to celebrate their identity?
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James Fitzgibbon
James Fitzgibbon
@Jim Dandee
Apparently bigotry is not dead. Yet.
Apparently bigotry is not dead. Yet.
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Neil Turv
Neil Turv
@Jason Tremblay (JasonDiggy)
At best I think it's anecdotal, more likely fabrication, but certainly not the majority behavior at pride parades.
At best I think it's anecdotal, more likely fabrication, but certainly not the majority behavior at pride parades.
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Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Jim Dandee Why do we need to
flaunt who we are? Are we that insecure? I don't think we need all this
fan fair and in your face declaration. Just be who you are. Live and
let live. Life is not about rainbows and dark clouds........ unless you
need all that drama.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Who said its
not allowed ? The thing is you don't want to raise an English one you
want the Acadian one to be lowered that's a totally different thing"
Methinks you have a bad habit of twisting another dude's words N'esy Pas?
Methinks you have a bad habit of twisting another dude's words N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@stephen blunston "if good for some of population the rest should also have that right"
I wholeheartedly agree
I wholeheartedly agree
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Daryl McMurphy
'To put up a straight pride flag is almost like putting up a swastika,' says Minto woman
I find this statement to be BS. What is the difference between flying a straight flag and gay flag? Are the gay now telling the straights that they don't have the same rights as the gays. We're gay so we can fly our group colors and do what ever we want because were special, but don't you dare fly yours if we don't like them? Please, give me a break.
I find this statement to be BS. What is the difference between flying a straight flag and gay flag? Are the gay now telling the straights that they don't have the same rights as the gays. We're gay so we can fly our group colors and do what ever we want because were special, but don't you dare fly yours if we don't like them? Please, give me a break.
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Kathy Hennessy
Kathy Hennessy
@Daryl McMurphy The key
difference (other than the fact that every day in history has been
straight pride day because straight people have never been persecuted or
abused or ridiculed over their orientation) - is that the rainbow flag
represents total inclusion and diversity while the "straight pride" flag
is quite literally black and white, and discounts the point of the
other. One is supportive, one is restrictive.
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David Amos
@Daryl McMurphy "I find this statement to be BS. What is the difference between flying a straight flag and gay flag?"
Me Too
Me Too
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David Amos
David Amos
@Kathy Hennessy "because straight people have never been persecuted or abused or ridiculed over their orientation"
I beg to differ
I beg to differ
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Terry Bollea
Nothing wrong with that flag.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Terry Bollea I agree
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Steve Timmins
When you go looking to be
offended, guess what happens. You'll find something. People need to quit
worrying about what others think
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David Amos
David Amos
@Steve Timmins YUP
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Jim Redmond
I see absolutely nothing wrong with a straight pride flag or event.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Redmond Nor I
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herbert marcuse
how does straight pride equate with a swastika?????
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David Amos
David Amos
@herbert marcuse It doesn't
Jian Balcar
I do not see anything wrong
with "straight pride flag". If one group of people can have their
parades and asking for acceptance and fair treatment....these same
people should offer the same courtesy to others who may happen to be
straight
Valentina Tereshkova
@Jian Balcar When have heterosexuals been discriminated against?
stephen blunston
@Valentina Tereshkova cant have flags or parades is 2
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David Amos
@Valentina Tereshkova "When have heterosexuals been discriminated against?"
My wife and I were abused big time by Gay and lesbian judges and lawyers operating within the justice system of Massachusetts in 2002. That why I sued so many Yankees. Methinks every politician in New Brunswick knew the score by 2004 nobody dares to deny that the proof of what I say is true can be found within the records of many courts in Canada and the USA to this very day N'esy Pas?
My wife and I were abused big time by Gay and lesbian judges and lawyers operating within the justice system of Massachusetts in 2002. That why I sued so many Yankees. Methinks every politician in New Brunswick knew the score by 2004 nobody dares to deny that the proof of what I say is true can be found within the records of many courts in Canada and the USA to this very day N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@Valentina Tereshkova "When have heterosexuals been discriminated against?"
Methinks many lawyers know my wife and I were in Massachusetts in 2002 N'esy Pas?
Methinks many lawyers know my wife and I were in Massachusetts in 2002 N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@stephen blunston "cant have flags or parades is 2"
YUP
David Amos
@david mccaig So You Say
Ken MacDonald
Funny thing about freedom of expression, it runs both ways.
David Amos
@Ken MacDonald "Funny thing about freedom of expression, it runs both ways"
Methinks is should in a purportedly "Just Democracy" N'esy Pas?.
Methinks is should in a purportedly "Just Democracy" N'esy Pas?.
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David Amos
@Phillip Smirnoff "it SHOULD run both ways, but in reality, it does not."
Methinks the proof of the pudding can be found within this article and its comment section N'esy Pas?
Methinks the proof of the pudding can be found within this article and its comment section N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks the proof of the pudding cannot be offensive to anyone N'esy Pas?
Jim Palmer
@Ken MacDonald
"Bishop told CBC News he went to the mayor about two months ago and asked to fly the flag. He said, Sure we represent all groups of people, ..... "
"..... the flag, which was taken down after almost a full day, ....."
Apparently not.
"Bishop told CBC News he went to the mayor about two months ago and asked to fly the flag. He said, Sure we represent all groups of people, ..... "
"..... the flag, which was taken down after almost a full day, ....."
Apparently not.
David Amos
@Jim Palmer Go Figure
Tim O'Day
I'm offended that other people are offended by a Straight Pride flag.
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David Amos
@Tim O'Day "I'm offended that other people are offended by a Straight Pride flag"
Me Too.
Me Too.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Tim O'Day Methinks its an offense to agree with you N'esy Pas?
Norman Albert Snr
@Ed Norton Why not?
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr Exactly
Bob Lashram
So it's ok for gay pride, but not straight pride? What hypocracy...What a double standard...
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David Amos
@Bob Lashram YUP
Michael Quinn
@Bob Lashram Not a double
standard. LGBTQ+ people need support for being LGBTQ+; straight people
don't need support for being straight.
David Amos
@Michael Quinn I disagree
Jim Palmer
@Bob Lashram
It appears that there is no such thing as a 'pendulum' that comes to rest anywhere near the 'middle' any more.
Sad.
It appears that there is no such thing as a 'pendulum' that comes to rest anywhere near the 'middle' any more.
Sad.
David Amos
@Jim Palmer Don't take badly Democracy is a myth
Welcome to the Circus Its for real
Welcome to the Circus Its for real
Dee Jones
Nothing wrong with it, it is
freedom of expression, just like other flags and other groups. These
people need to find something to do.
Johnathan Wilcox
@Dee Jones I could help with that.
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David Amos
@Dee Jones Methinks they found it N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Johnathan Wilcox Methinks that you were blocked if you made a suggestion on how to help N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
David Amos
@Dee Jones Methinks freedom of expression does not extend to merely agreeing with you and other folks of like mind N'esy Pas?
Travis Ladwin
@Dee Jones
Yeah? By that argument, should towns be able to fly flags for white supremacy as well? Why should a town be able to fly a flag representative of exclusion?
Yeah? By that argument, should towns be able to fly flags for white supremacy as well? Why should a town be able to fly a flag representative of exclusion?
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David Amos
@Travis Ladwin Its a Straight
Pride Flag not an "exclusion" one. It if were then methinks the Gay
Pride flag should be looked upon in the same fashion N'esy Pas?
Maddy Timpf
Once again.... if you
disagree with Leftwing ideology your Opinion is "incorrect" and you must
be punished.. You shall not have your own "pride" or thoughts and it
will not be tolerated.
You must now be shamed and pay a price with protestors at your front door screaming awful things at you.
You must now be shamed and pay a price with protestors at your front door screaming awful things at you.
Scott Jason
@Maddy Timpf Being gay is left-wing ideology?
Chris Bergen
@Maddy Timpf - Equal rights is a left wing ideology? As a consistent Conservative voter I find that surprising.
Peter Hill
@Maddy Timpf
Glad that you agree that racism and bigotry are right wing ideology.
Glad that you agree that racism and bigotry are right wing ideology.
Dan Peters
@Maddy Timpf
Enough with the left-right crap. It's a straight pride flag. Not a right wing flag.
Enough with the left-right crap. It's a straight pride flag. Not a right wing flag.
colin smith
@Maddy Timpf
This has nothing to do with left wing ideology. Absolutely nothing. It's Hate. I'm not pointing the figure at those who put the up. I'm pointing at those who hate the people who put the flag up.
I'm not left wing person. I'm more liberal, not as in the party but in an in the concept. I value freedom. The far left and far right hate freedom. They want to rule you and put you in box.
This has nothing to do with left wing ideology. Absolutely nothing. It's Hate. I'm not pointing the figure at those who put the up. I'm pointing at those who hate the people who put the flag up.
I'm not left wing person. I'm more liberal, not as in the party but in an in the concept. I value freedom. The far left and far right hate freedom. They want to rule you and put you in box.
colin smith
@Peter Hill
They are far right wing ideology as is far the left. The far left is just racist and bigoted.
If you want example you need look no further than the Soviet Union. The left is as bad as the right on the extremes. But then at the extreme the left and the right are the same.
In one of my political classes the prof mark dot on the boars. He called the center. Then drew a line to the right curving to point opposite the dot forming half a circle. Then did the same with the left completing the circle. So the farther you go right the the closer to the left you get. Same with the left. They overlap and similarities start to out number the differences.
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David Amos
David Amos
@colin smith "This has
nothing to do with left wing ideology. Absolutely nothing. It's Hate.
I'm not pointing the figure at those who put the up. I'm pointing at
those who hate the people who put the flag up.
I'm not left wing person. I'm more liberal, not as in the party but in an in the concept. I value freedom. The far left and far right hate freedom. They want to rule you and put you in box."
Well Put Sir and well worthy of repeating
I'm not left wing person. I'm more liberal, not as in the party but in an in the concept. I value freedom. The far left and far right hate freedom. They want to rule you and put you in box."
Well Put Sir and well worthy of repeating
Carl Juneau
@Maddy Timpf -- Are you suggesting that your opinion is always correct, and shouldn't be challenged? Who made you Pope?
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David Amos
@Carl Juneau "Who made you Pope?"
FYI Methinks a lot of folks know I sued one of the dudes who picked a couple of Popes N'esy Pas?
FYI Methinks a lot of folks know I sued one of the dudes who picked a couple of Popes N'esy Pas?
Jason Chen
What?? Straight people not allowed to pride?
Jay Lockie
@Mike Unsern - "There is no stigma attached to being straight"
DON'T CARE. I'm straight and proud of it. That doesn't require some past oppression. That just has to BE. And for you to tell me that I can't have pride in that makes YOU the oppressor of today.
DON'T CARE. I'm straight and proud of it. That doesn't require some past oppression. That just has to BE. And for you to tell me that I can't have pride in that makes YOU the oppressor of today.
David Amos
@Jay Lockie "I'm straight and proud of it."
Me Too
Me Too
Edward Andrews
@David Amos is that #metoo now?
Gordon Johnson
Going through life un-offended by others is not a Charter right.
David Amos
@Gordon Johnson "Going through life un-offended by others is not a Charter right."
Oh So True
Oh So True
Jeremy Denton
“Gay Pride was not born of a
need to celebrate being gay, but our right to exist without persecution.
So instead of wondering why there isn’t a Straight Pride movement, be
thankful you don’t need one.”
Terry Viceroy
@Jeremy Denton
we are all equally covered under the constitution...
we are all equally covered under the constitution...
Kat Burd
@Charles Dunning - Not being allowed to express our own pride?
David Amos
@Terry Viceroy "we are all equally covered under the constitution..."
Dream On
Dream On
David Amos
@Kat Burd "Not being allowed to express our own pride?"
Good Question
Good Question
Jim McAlpine
@Jeremy Denton - well exactly. People defending the straight pride flag are ridiculous with their false equivalency statements.
David Amos
@Jim McAlpine I disagree
Blair Mitchell Carpenter
The the LGBT community can
fly their rainbow flags wherever they want but the hetero community is
not allowed? Sounds like a double standard to me.
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David Amos
@Blair Mitchell Carpenter "Sounds like a double standard to me."
Methinks that is because it is N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is because it is N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Blair Mitchell Carpenter "Sounds like a double standard to me."
Methinks that is because it is N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is because it is N'esy Pas?
Dean Lenglet
Apparently only certain people have the right to free speech.
David Amos
@Dean Lenglet "Apparently only certain people have the right to free speech."
Methinks that is abundantly clear among peoplekind However mankind don't count for much these days with Trudeau the Younger and his Sunny Ways N'esy Pas?
Methinks that is abundantly clear among peoplekind However mankind don't count for much these days with Trudeau the Younger and his Sunny Ways N'esy Pas?
Chris Deist
This is great, let the wail
and khash their teeth. I am sick of everything normal being made bad.
Its just like the anti whites, oh white is bad but everyone else
good...too bad.
Jay Lockie
@Lily O'Loughlin - power yadda yadda something something......
David Amos
@Jay Lockie LMAO
Jose Lopez
A recent study found d over
80% of Americans are fed up with political correctness. The most
supportive of PC culture is whites and bIacks.
I suspect Canadians are just as fed up as our friends south of the border.
I suspect Canadians are just as fed up as our friends south of the border.
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David Amos
@Jose Lopez "I suspect Canadians are just as fed up as our friends south of the border."
Methinks that folks should know that you don't for all Canadians. most of my politcl foes know I am a Proud Father of 2 Yankees much to the chagrin of Mr Trump and his many minions N'esy Pas?
Methinks that folks should know that you don't for all Canadians. most of my politcl foes know I am a Proud Father of 2 Yankees much to the chagrin of Mr Trump and his many minions N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Jose Lopez Methinks you should agree that it was too bad my reply was deleted this morning N"esy Pas?
albert franken
We've turned into a nation of overly-sensitized complainers. The race is on to see who can be offended the fastest and deepest.
David Amos
@albert franken "We've turned into a nation of overly-sensitized complainers."
I wholeheartedly agree
I wholeheartedly agree
Stan Brown
Good for them, I see nothing wrong with that in our all inclusive country!
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David Amos
@Luke Bridge "I think you might be missing the point..."
Methinks the same could be said of you N'esy Pas?
Methinks the same could be said of you N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Stan Brown I concur
Tony Schut
What's the big deal? It's not as though they want a parade.
David Amos
@Tony Schut Now there is an idea
Hugh MacDonald
Pride is not the exclusive property of any individual or group in our society.
David Amos
@Hugh MacDonald I agree
John Smith
Diversity is our strength. Just don't dare to have a different opinion you bigot.
John Nelson
@John Smith Any opinion that disagrees with yours is. At least in your mind.
David Amos
@John Nelson Methinks Mr Smith was being felicitous N'esy Pas?
Mitzi-Lynne Morgan
LGBTQ fly their flag so why
can the straight people not fly theirs? Flying the rainbow doesn't put
out the message that straight people are not welcome, any more than the
straight flag says that LGBTQ people are not welcome. People are so
quick to take offence.
Joe Smith
@Mitzi-Lynne Morgan
But consider the history of that flag. It comes from right wing Americans. What's next, flying the confederate flag in Minto to celebrate the Dukes of Hazzard?
But consider the history of that flag. It comes from right wing Americans. What's next, flying the confederate flag in Minto to celebrate the Dukes of Hazzard?
David Amos
@Joe Smith "What's next, flying the confederate flag in Minto to celebrate the Dukes of Hazzard?"
Why not?
Why not?
Richard Dover
Comparing this to a swastika demonstrates an intense misunderstanding of history.
David Amos
@Richard Dover Oh So True
Tricia Reed
When have STRAIGHT people ever needed support ????? This is ridiculous
David Amos
@Tricia Reed "When have STRAIGHT people ever needed support ?????"
Methinks today is perfect day to begin N'esy Pas?
Methinks today is perfect day to begin N'esy Pas?
Hamish lawrence
If a straight pride flag is anti-gay doesn't it mean that a gay pride flag is anti-straight?
David Amos
@Hamish lawrence Good question
Sam Steel
I LOVE it!!! I want one
Tom Simpson
@Sam Steel
The flag? Seriously? Man.. the internet is toxic...
The flag? Seriously? Man.. the internet is toxic...
Chris Bergen
@Sam Steel - No one cares what you want.
Sam Steel
@Chris Bergen yes you do
Chris Bergen
@Sam Steel - Couldn't care less. LOL
The feeble minded are of little interest to me outside of entertainment.
The feeble minded are of little interest to me outside of entertainment.
Sam Steel
@Chris Bergen go to yo ur sa fe spa ce
Chris Bergen
@Sam Steel - Already in it, as are you. It's called Canada.
Lily O'Loughlin
@Sam Steel
Yeah, you would.
Yeah, you would.
Chris Deist
@Chris Bergen Yes you do care otherwise you would not comment.
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David Amos
@Chris Deist True
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David Amos
@Chris Deist Methinks somebody should care enough to ask why so many comments went "Poof" N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Sam Steel Me Too
Are you Kidding me?
What is wrong with being proud to be straight?
Not very inclusive is it?
What is wrong with being proud to be straight?
Not very inclusive is it?
David Amos
@Jim Lauzon "Not very inclusive is it?"
Nope
Nope
Jeannie Carter
To me the the Gay Pride flag
says "Wer'e here and you can't ignore us anymore or treat us like we
should hide in shame, invisible and afraid." The straight pride flag
says "Go back in your closet because I am insecure and uncomfortable
with any thing that threatens the establishment of which I greatly
benefit from."
Marc Martin
@Jeannie Carter
For me its imply means they have a right to speak also.
For me its imply means they have a right to speak also.
Byron Linley
@Jeannie Carter
Your interpretation is wrong - in both cases.
In the first it is a case of "we can do what we want, demand what want, because it is politically correct to do so.
In the second it is " we are just as proud to be what we are and have no problem with what you are"
Your interpretation is wrong - in both cases.
In the first it is a case of "we can do what we want, demand what want, because it is politically correct to do so.
In the second it is " we are just as proud to be what we are and have no problem with what you are"
David Amos
@Jeannie Carter So you say
Jonathan Lemon
I support People Pride. We're all unique and wonderful.
stephen blunston
@Jonathan Lemon agree
David Amos
@stephen blunston How many of your comments have gone "Poof" ?
New Brunswick village angers residents with 'straight pride' flag
'To put up a straight pride flag is almost like putting up a swastika,' says Minto woman
· CBC News · Posted: Oct 22, 2018 12:34 PM AT
When Margaret Clark first saw pictures
on Facebook of the "straight pride" flag waving in the central New
Brunswick village of Chipman, she felt as if she'd been kicked in the
stomach.
"It's just like they created a time machine and they put us back 10 years," said Clark, who lives in Minto, about 50 kilometres east of Fredericton.
A little farther east of Minto, people had raised the straight pride flag next to the Chipman Marina, in the heart of the village.
The flag has since been taken down, on Monday afternoon, after being it up for almost 24 hours.
The flag of black and white horizontal lines promoting heterosexuality was raised by some conservative groups in the U.S. in response to gay pride events.
"To put up a straight pride flag is almost like putting up a swastika," Clark said. "It's scary in this day and age — it's 2018."
In Grade 11, the teen was bullied so much that he moved to Prince Edward Island, where he finished high school. Clark said her son came out to her about two years later.
Today, he lives in Munich, Germany, with his husband and works as a client manager at Louis Vuitton. He has never returned to Minto, near Grand Lake.
"It crushes my heart, because I love my son just as much as they love their kids," she said of the people who put up the flag.
Although she feels most people in the area support the LGBTQ community, Clark said there are a few who don't.
"It represents hatred …. 'We're going to show them that us white, straight people are better,'" she said of the flag-raisers.
Justin Fudge is gay and has lived in Chipman for more than eight years.
On Sunday, he felt personally attacked by the straight pride flag that was raised in the community.
"We've push so hard to get the Pride flag raised in this little village, with a very small LGBTQ community and all of a sudden this atrocity is waving in the wind," said the local hair stylist.
As a sign of protest, he drove around the community with a giant Pride flag that he attached to the antenna of his car.
Now, he hopes council will apologize for putting the flag up in the first place.
"I want to make it known that I wasn't putting up with that today," he said.
When Lyle Robichaud first heard about the flag, the former Minto resident thought someone had written a satirical article, which was rapidly being shared online.
Then he realized what he was hearing was far from satire.
"All it says to anybody in the LGBTQ in the Grand Lake area, is you're not welcome here."
Robichaud says he has gay friends who work both as paramedics and in the public sector in the Grand Lake area.
"It's a great big middle finger to them [LGBTQ community], as far as I'm concerned," he said. "The village has effectively shot themselves in the foot."
"I have never seen an act of hate this big in our village or in any of our neighbouring communities," he said.
Both Minto and Chipman are in a conservative provincial riding that recently sent the leader of the third-party People's Alliance to the legislature.
The flag's appearance in the village was the work of Glenn Bishop and 11 others, who met over the past few months to find ways to show support for straight people.
Bishop described the flag as an international sign of man and woman.
"We
are not against the gay pride people at all," he said. "I'm not against
gay people; anybody's sexual preference is their choice."
Bishop said he went to the mayor about two months ago and asked to fly the flag.
"He said, 'Sure we represent all groups of people,' and I agree with that," said Bishop.
Bishop said "the gay pride people" represent about five per cent of the population in the area, and straight people make up about 95 per cent.
According to Bishop, about 50 people attended the flag raising Sunday afternoon. Mayor Carson Atkinson was among them.
"He made a speech just implying we are an international town, we represent all groups of people, which we do," Bishop said.
"I don't understand. We never made no squawk when they flew their flag."
Council "recognizes, accepts and respects the rights of individuals," the speech said. "To date your council has unanimously voted to accept a flag provided by the LGBTQ community and today, we are accepting a flag provided by the straight community.
"For all of us in the community, we are reminded that we must celebrate the many elements in our community which bring us together."
CBC News has asked to speak to the mayor and is waiting for a response.
Although he has seen a lot of negative reaction on Facebook, Bishop said he expects other communities will start flying the flag.
"It's only a small percentage of them who are not happy about it and most of them are either people who … are either gay or if they have children who are gay," he said.
"That's why we're getting a little bit of negative response from this."
The flag was set to fly until Saturday, and Bishop was hoping the flag would be raised every year.
"There's no hate involved here," he said. "I'm not against gay people. I have many gay friends. I'm not against the gay people."
"It's just like they created a time machine and they put us back 10 years," said Clark, who lives in Minto, about 50 kilometres east of Fredericton.
A little farther east of Minto, people had raised the straight pride flag next to the Chipman Marina, in the heart of the village.
The flag has since been taken down, on Monday afternoon, after being it up for almost 24 hours.
The flag of black and white horizontal lines promoting heterosexuality was raised by some conservative groups in the U.S. in response to gay pride events.
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"To put up a straight pride flag is almost like putting up a swastika," Clark said. "It's scary in this day and age — it's 2018."
It crushes my heart, because I love my son just as much as they love their kids.- Margaret Clark, Minto residentClark called the flag a "symbol of hatred" and said it reminded her of when her son Chad Kelly, 34, was teased at Minto High School for being gay. In high school, he was even punched in the face for being gay and came home with a black eye.
In Grade 11, the teen was bullied so much that he moved to Prince Edward Island, where he finished high school. Clark said her son came out to her about two years later.
Today, he lives in Munich, Germany, with his husband and works as a client manager at Louis Vuitton. He has never returned to Minto, near Grand Lake.
Although she feels most people in the area support the LGBTQ community, Clark said there are a few who don't.
"It represents hatred …. 'We're going to show them that us white, straight people are better,'" she said of the flag-raisers.
'Atrocity waving in the wind'
Justin Fudge is gay and has lived in Chipman for more than eight years.
On Sunday, he felt personally attacked by the straight pride flag that was raised in the community.
"We've push so hard to get the Pride flag raised in this little village, with a very small LGBTQ community and all of a sudden this atrocity is waving in the wind," said the local hair stylist.
Now, he hopes council will apologize for putting the flag up in the first place.
"I want to make it known that I wasn't putting up with that today," he said.
Far from satire
When Lyle Robichaud first heard about the flag, the former Minto resident thought someone had written a satirical article, which was rapidly being shared online.
Then he realized what he was hearing was far from satire.
It's a great big middle finger to them [ LGBTQ community] as far as I'm concerned.- Lyle Robichaud , former Minto resident"It's disgusting, it's sickening that the neighbour of my community has that up," said Robichaud.
"All it says to anybody in the LGBTQ in the Grand Lake area, is you're not welcome here."
Robichaud says he has gay friends who work both as paramedics and in the public sector in the Grand Lake area.
"It's a great big middle finger to them [LGBTQ community], as far as I'm concerned," he said. "The village has effectively shot themselves in the foot."
"I have never seen an act of hate this big in our village or in any of our neighbouring communities," he said.
'Not against gay pride people'
Both Minto and Chipman are in a conservative provincial riding that recently sent the leader of the third-party People's Alliance to the legislature.
The flag's appearance in the village was the work of Glenn Bishop and 11 others, who met over the past few months to find ways to show support for straight people.
Bishop described the flag as an international sign of man and woman.
Bishop said he went to the mayor about two months ago and asked to fly the flag.
"He said, 'Sure we represent all groups of people,' and I agree with that," said Bishop.
Bishop said "the gay pride people" represent about five per cent of the population in the area, and straight people make up about 95 per cent.
'An international town'
According to Bishop, about 50 people attended the flag raising Sunday afternoon. Mayor Carson Atkinson was among them.
"He made a speech just implying we are an international town, we represent all groups of people, which we do," Bishop said.
"I don't understand. We never made no squawk when they flew their flag."
I'm not against gay people, I have many gay friends.- Glenn Bishop, Chipman residentOn Monday morning, the Village of Chipman shared the mayor's speech on Facebook. The village took the post down about 30 minutes later.
Council "recognizes, accepts and respects the rights of individuals," the speech said. "To date your council has unanimously voted to accept a flag provided by the LGBTQ community and today, we are accepting a flag provided by the straight community.
"For all of us in the community, we are reminded that we must celebrate the many elements in our community which bring us together."
CBC News has asked to speak to the mayor and is waiting for a response.
'No hate involved'
Although he has seen a lot of negative reaction on Facebook, Bishop said he expects other communities will start flying the flag.
"It's only a small percentage of them who are not happy about it and most of them are either people who … are either gay or if they have children who are gay," he said.
"That's why we're getting a little bit of negative response from this."
The flag was set to fly until Saturday, and Bishop was hoping the flag would be raised every year.
"There's no hate involved here," he said. "I'm not against gay people. I have many gay friends. I'm not against the gay people."
Updated
New Brunswick village removes 'straight pride' flag amid backlash
Black-and-white flag flew over small community for roughly one day
Residents in a central New Brunswick village are seeking an apology from officials who allowed a "straight pride" flag to be raised in the centre of town.
The appearance of the flag, which was taken down after almost a full day, was met with outrage from some residents, but the man who helped raise it says it wasn't meant to hurt the LBGT community of Chipman, a village of some 1,100 people, about 60 kilometres east of Fredericton.
"We are not against the gay pride people at all," Bishop said. "I'm not against gay people; anybody's sexual preference is their choice."
"He said, 'Sure we represent all groups of people,' and I agree with that," said Bishop.
The flag — which depicts interlinked male and female symbols on a background of black and white horizontal lines — has been raised by some conservative groups in the U.S. in response to gay pride events.
Less than half an hour after it was taken down, Bishop arrived and asked "Who took down my flag?"
Others said he didn't understand how the flag makes light of the struggle of being gay or non-binary.
"You're against them by putting the flag up," area resident Mat Miller told Bishop.
"There's no such thing as straight pride."
Miller said he's happy to see the flag is down, but he still expects an apology from the mayor and council.
Mayor Carson Atkinson has not yet responded to a request for comment from CBC News.
'Privilege and anti-minorities'
The village council said Sunday's flag raising was meant as a show of support to "all groups in our municipality and to respect everyone's right to freedom of speech."
"No harm or hate was intended in any way as we pride ourselves on Chipman being a diverse and vibrant community," the council said in a statement.
"This flag distraction is a lesson for us and for other rural communities such as our own."
The unanimous decision to raise the flag followed the village's first raising of an LGBT pride flag in June, the council said.
Council said the backlash included "personal attacks and threats" against councillors.
'It's scary in this day'
When Margaret Clark first saw pictures on Facebook of the flag waving in the heart of the village, she said she felt as if she'd been kicked in the stomach.
"It's just like they created a time machine and they put us back 10 years," said Clark, who lives in nearby Minto.
"To put up a straight pride flag is almost like putting up a swastika. It's scary in this day and age — it's 2018."
It crushes my heart, because I love my son just as much as they love their kids.- Margaret Clark, Minto residentClark called the flag a "symbol of hatred" and said it reminded her of when her son Chad Kelly, 34, was teased at Minto High School for being gay. In high school, he was even punched in the face for being gay and came home with a black eye.
In Grade 11, the teen was bullied so much that he moved to Prince Edward Island, where he finished high school. Clark said her son came out to her about two years later.
Today, he lives in Munich, Germany, with his husband and works as a client manager at Louis Vuitton. He has never returned to Minto, near Grand Lake.
Although she feels most people in the area support the LGBT community, Clark said there are a few who don't.
"It represents hatred …. 'We're going to show them that us white, straight people are better,'" she said of the flag-raisers.
'Atrocity waving in the wind'
Justin Fudge is gay and has lived in Chipman for more than eight years.
On Sunday, he felt personally attacked by the straight pride flag that was raised in the community.
"We've push so hard to get the Pride flag raised in this little village, with a very
small LGBTQ community, and all of a sudden this atrocity is waving in the wind," said the local hair stylist.
As a sign of protest, he drove around the community with a giant Pride flag that he attached to the antenna of his car.
Now, he hopes council will apologize for putting the flag up in the first place.
"I want to make it known that I wasn't putting up with that today," he said.
With files from Hadeel Ibrahim
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
https://duncanmatheson.ca/blog/a-straight-pride-flag-ya-gotta-be-kidding-me?platform=hootsuite
The answer of course, is that we don’t need one. For gays, it is an
acknowledgement of what they had to go through to gain some basic
rights, rights that the rest of us take for granted. But it’s even more
basic than that. When I think back to my school days and how tough life
was for the few gay people we were aware of, it’s pretty understandable
they would feel a need to recognize the bullying and persecution they
went through. It’s not about celebrating being gay, it’s about
acknowledging the achievement of some hard earned rights. And it is
about telling especially young gay people that they should not be
ashamed of their sexuality. Gay pride is a way to send a message that
they are not alone, that gays are here, that they plan to stay here, and
there is nothing wrong with that. I say power to them
https://duncanmatheson.ca/blog/a-straight-pride-flag-ya-gotta-be-kidding-me?platform=hootsuite
Straight Pride flag? Chipman, ya gotta be kidding me.
When I was a child, I remember asking my mother – “How come there is Mother’s Day and Father’s Day but no Kid’s Day?” She responded, “Every day is kid’s day”.
Flash ahead a whole bunch of years and my daughter, when she was younger, asked me a similar question – How come they talk about Black Lives Matter? Don’t all lives matter? A perfectly logical question, but it gave me the opportunity to get into that conversation, explaining that Black Lives Matter is a reaction to the difficulty and danger that goes with growing up black in America. To minimize that by countering with All Lives Matter simply shows either an ignorance of white privilege or a purposeful indifference.
And now we have Chipman. Who even knew there is a Straight Pride flag? Who, on God’s green earth decided we need that?
A lot of people have registered their disgust, and apparently the Chipman Village Council either saw where they were wrong to fly the damned thing, or the pressure got to them. Either way they took it down.
But while there has been a groundswell of opposition on social media and elsewhere, there are also a lot of voices, echoing my innocent childhood question and my daughter’s (I hasten to add when she was younger) wondering where the acknowledgement for our pride was. In this case, if there’s a gay pride flag, why not a straight pride flag?
As I saw in one of those memes, if you are straight you shouldn’t be put out because you don’t have the equivalent of a gay pride parade or flag, you should simply be grateful you don’t need them.
Or as my mother would probably say if she were still with us “Every day is straight pride day. Now stop being so stupid.”
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