Tuesday 16 October 2018

Methinks Bud Bird is partaking a day early because he is having quite a pipe dream today N'esy Pas?

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Methinks Bud Bird is partaking a day early because he is having quite a pipe dream today N'esy Pas?







https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bud-bird-grand-coalition-1.4864674




Brian Gallant, Blaine Higgs urged to form a grand coalition to govern New Brunswick

Bud Bird, an ex-mayor and cabinet minister, says a Liberal-PC coalition is a 'historic opportunity'





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David Amos
David Amos
Methinks everybody should thank Bud Bird for the greatest chuckle of the day N'esy Pas?




David Amos 
David Amos
I suspect that most of my political opponents must have noticed that I tried to reply to every comment in CBC recently if the article pertained to the recent provincial election in New New Brunswick.

Whereas I have run in both the federal and provincial elections recently after suing the Crown in Federal Court, I figured my fellow citizens were entitled to stress test my integrity before I file some more lawsuits, continue my arguement with many lawyers before the EUB, run in the next federal election and possibly another provincial election in the near future.

Most folks ignored my replies just like they ignore most politicians and I truly understand. They are entitled to their opinions and not required to respond to someone they don't like. However I made it a point to read what every one of them wrote and responded on topic. I am grateful for the responses I did get even from the politcal pundits who are on their agenda.

I have no idea why CBC made so much of Bud Bird's opinion but I enjoyed this article the most of all. Methinks everybody knows why I am looking forward to more CBC articles about the Circus in the New Brunswicl Legislature N'esy Pas?






R0bert Wilson 
Lou Bell
Gallant has the full backing of the " backroom Acadian Party ".


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Bigtime







R0bert Wilson  
Lou Bell
Bud Bird implying the passing off some control to the smaller parties would be like passing it off to " the lowest common denominator " ! Ha !! N.B. has had itself controlled and passed off to the " lowest common denominator " for decades. Perhaps he should look in the mirror as he was highly a part of it for years .


David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks the ghosts of many of our Forefathers are happy that you see the irony and humour in this article as well N'esy Pas?







R0bert Wilson  
John O'Brien
Bud Bird must be totally senile now. A coalition of PC's and Liberals , especially one involving Gallant, would be like asking left-hand drivers and right-hand drivers to find a compromise.By definition, their policies and principles exclude co-operation.


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@John O'Brien A coalition of PCs and Liberals would be like asking Irving to pay his pollution fine to an Irving-controlled salmon group...oh wait the Crown prosecution is recommending this:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/wild-atlantic-salmon-cooke-aquaculture-jd-irving-ltd-conservation-stocking-1.4865176


David Amos
David Amos
@John O'Brien I concur








R0bert Wilson  
Jeff Smith
Most people voted against the liberals. It would be a betrayal to join forces with them when other options are open. For example the PC's and PA, with a PC speaker.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff Smith Methinks if Higgs hooked up with Austin his French Lieutenant Gauvin would remain true to his word and quit the PC caucus immediately and become the King Maker and possibly the Ring Master of the this Circus on the 23rd N'esy Pas?

Lou Bell
Lou Bell
@David Amos Perhaps the seat in St. John could be enticed to roll over to the P.C.'s. He did after all indicate his mandate is the city first. Toss him a few crumbs , and perhaps he would flip . The guy on the north shore , as expected , is another of those heard but " unseen " members of the old Acadian party that never really folded. Still active , just hidden behind the scenes and controlling .

David Amos
David Amos
@Lou Bell I wholeheartledy agree








Buford Wilson  
Buford Wilson
It's time for Brian to get out of the way. So Blaine can start the rebuilding.

The people of New/Nouveau-Brunswick have spoken.


Robert Brannen
Robert Brannen 
@Buford Wilson

Before Higgs can select a Cabinet and get them sworn in, a speaker must be named.
As an earlier CBC story explains:

"Choosing a Speaker is the first order of business when the legislature begins a new session ...
'If the legislative assembly fails to elect a Speaker, then the only way that the impasse can be broken is through early dissolution and another election,' said parliamentary expert James Bowden. 'That's the most likely scenario.'

With everyone refusing to stand for the position of Speaker, we will be back at the polls by Christmas.


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen "With everyone refusing to stand for the position of Speaker, we will be back at the polls by Christmas"

Methinks we may be treated to what the Yankees call an "October Surprise" on the 23rd N'esy Pas?








R0bert Wilson 
Ken Stephens
These parties exist to oppose one another. The chances of this ever happening are zero. Old Bud has gone senile it seems. This does give us an opportunity to break a little from the old guard and that's exciting.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ken Stephens I agree








Colin Seeley 
Craig Delaney
Hard to imagine a compromise unless Gallant is willing to fight Trudeau's Carbon Tax. Higgs already has a map to a majority.


David Amos
David Amos
@Craig Delaney Methinks many folks are looking forward to the 23rd to see who the Speaker will be N'esy Pas?
  
   






Colin Seeley 
Erin MacRuaidh
The more logical solution would be a PC and PA coalition.

The Speaker of the Assembly would be the tie breaker.


David Amos
David Amos
@Erin MacRuaidh The PC and PA coalition.ain't never gonna happen unless the French Lieutenant quits then becomes the Speaker








Scott Homeney 
Scott Homeney
Each one of these two gentlemen only garnered 1/3 of the votes from the people for their respective parties. So however is in charge will only have 1/3 of the provinces support. Neither one is capable of leading this province.


David Amos
David Amos
@Scott Homeney I agree








Colin Seeley 
June Arnott
They can rip us all off together!


David Amos
David Amos
@June Arnott Nope They don't trust each other










Andy Davis 
Andy Davis
Cons don't participate, they negate, attack, downplay and are only good for attacking opponents. Con governments throughout history have always failed miserably. Good luck New Brunswickers.


David Amos
David Amos
@Andy Davis Methinks to be fair the same can be said of the Liberals as well N'esy Pas?









Norman Albert Snr
Rex Harris
Just call a election so the Conservatives can take control and stop the nonsense.


David Amos
David Amos
@Rex Harris Methinks that both HIggs and Gallant can't deny that if you get your wish the PANB and the Greens could win even more seats N'esy Pas?


David Banks
David Banks
@Ronald McCallum None of that can happen until a Speaker is chosen.

David Amos
David Amos
@David Banks I remember you










Norman Albert Snr
David Stairs
do not forget that Bud Bird works for Irving...no surprise here in the way he thinks....


David Amos
David Amos
@David Stairs Methinks that nobody is surprised but it sure makes for great entertainment N'esy Pas?








Norman Albert Snr
Colin Seeley
Great idea.

Higgs for Premier.

Gallant for Deputy.

No more borrowing money.

If not agreeable then Call an election.


David Amos
David Amos
@Colin Seeley Yea Right


Colin Seeley
Colin Seeley
@David Amos

Only one of the entitled would disagree.

Amalgamate. Consolidate. Rationalize.

Keep at it till’ the budget gets $ 1 billion cash surplus annually.

Only then should govt start to spend.

David Amos
David Amos
@Colin Seeley Methinks all the political party leaders know that I am entitled to visit parliamentary properties, to be free of police harassment, my property returned, my drivers licence renewed, a health care card and my old age pension. However thus far I only have one Hence I sued the Crown N'esy Pas?






  
Norman Albert Snr
Jason Inness
So the motivation in proposing this arrangement is to stop smaller parties from gaining support. That would be incredibly cynical to have the two old parties try to hold onto their monopoly of government (besides personalities, these two parties govern pretty much the same). It is up to the voters, not backroom boys, which people represent them.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Inness "It is up to the voters, not backroom boys, which people represent them."

We are on the same page Sir.

David Amos
David Amos 
@David Amos Methinks before October 23rd is upon us I should remind many politicians and the folks who vote in New Brunswick that this story  appeared in the Kings County Record on June 22, 2004 I have run for public office 5 more times since then including this election. Clearly nothing has changed N'esy Pas?

The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight

"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his
wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone
that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The
independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and
two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from
running for office in Canada."

"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his
dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much
corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix
corruption is in the political forum."

"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood,
the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to
name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing,
farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm
death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it
(NAFTA) out the window

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an
easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."







Norman Albert Snr
Chuck Steeves
There is such a difference of not just values but principles between these two party leaders. Sometimes we need to proceed regardless of 'liking' each other, but this situation is far more than that. The core principles from stretching the truth to honest & open, throwing key ministers under the bus to collaborating and building with people, inciting divisiveness to working hard for understanding are miles apart. Then consider values that umbrella running deficits to providing value for tax dollars, lack of management skills to proven executive in private and political sectors, political end spending to prioritized costing, and on and on it goes.


Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Chuck Steeves It all smoke and mirrors Chuck. When you come right down to it they are all cut from the same cloth. What ever it takes to get into power and stay there.

David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr YUP







Ric Ferriby 
Ric Ferriby
it worked for Angela Merkel and gave Germany political and economic stability governing from the middle where the majority of Canadians are, or is it the case that Canadians still expect the priority to be partisan politics and partisan games instead of governing in the national or in this case the province's and people's interest. NB has that opportunity.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ric Ferriby Methinks many would agree with me in that Angela Merkel is one of the sneakiest politicians on the planet N'esy Pas?








Layton Bennett  
Layton Bennett
Gallant will table a Throne Speech in the next few weeks, it will not pass. Higgs will table a Throne Speech in the spring and it will not pass. We will be back at the polls next summer.


David Amos
David Amos
@Layton Bennett Methinks many agree that the Fat Lady may be singing at this Circus before Xmasstime N'esy Pas?


Layton Bennett
Layton Bennett
@David Amos
Only if Higgs has a Throne Speech ready to go. I suspect he doesn't. Once Gallant goes down in the House, Higgs will want to hold detailed discussions with the PA and Greens, select a Cabinet and get them sworn in. Then write and present a Throne Speech. It's possible the Throne Speech passes, but he gets defeated on the budget. Both of those are considered confidence votes.
This is the way it plays out in any Westminster Parliamentary system, in a minority situation, but New Brunswick hasn't seen a minority provincial government in generations, so a lot of people are freaking out and just let it play out. We'll be voting again soon, enough.

David Amos
David Amos 
 @Layton Bennett Methinks the Greens will maintain their stance and not make a deal with anyone particularly Higgs. Everybody knows if Higgs even talks to the PANB his French Lieutenant Gauvin will bail on him immediately and the PC party will fall apart. Hence i believe Higgs has his Throne Speech written Then after Gallants rolls the dice and possibly loses on November 2nd or so then Higgs will make a stab at getting the mandate and likely lose as well. The real question is who will go for the brass ring and become the Speaker next week? If nobody does there will be an election immediately N'esy Pas?


Robert Brannen
Robert Brannen
@Layton Bennett

Before Higgs can select a Cabinet and get them sworn in, a speaker must be named. And, therein lies the rub.

As an earlier CBC story explains:

"Choosing a Speaker is the first order of business when the legislature begins a new session ... following an election in which no party won a majority.
But the legislature's standing rules say none of that (a throne speech, a vote of confidence in the government) can happen until a Speaker is chosen. 'It takes precedence over all other business,' say the rules adopted in 1994.
'If the legislative assembly fails to elect a Speaker, then the only way that the impasse can be broken is through early dissolution and another election,' said parliamentary expert James Bowden. 'That's the most likely scenario.'

With everyone refusing to stand for the position of Speaker, we will be back at the polls by Christmas

David Amos
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David Amos
@Robert Brannen "therein lies the rub"

Methinks somebody appreciates the Old Bard as much as I N'esy Pas?


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen "therein lies the rub"

Hmmm I have read that before









Darryl Smith  
Robert Tuckett-Reddy
Perhaps its time to go back to the people and end the stalemate???


David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Tuckett-Reddy I concur








Richard Riel  
Richard Riel
Politicians appreciating each other, riding the wave. Relegate them to last party status.since neither one won nothing.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Riel ????










Matt Steele 
Matt Steele
Bud Bird , holy smokes , I have not heard that name since I was a kid . I wonder what Gallant promised Bird to make that wild suggestion.......Gallant must be getting more desperate by the day if he thinks that Bud Bird has any type of influence over anyone ?


David Amos
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David Amos
@Matt Steele Methinks you NDP dudes need a better memory or Google people before you comment N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/enbridge-gas-considers-lawsuit-layoffs-1.1137673


David Amos
David Amos
@Matt Steele Methinks even the NDP must recall Bud Bird attacking his buddy David Alward in 21012 N'esy Pas?









Darryl Smith  
Troy Murray
Good old Bud is on the bud (legal soon)


David Amos
David Amos
@Troy Murray Methinks some folks look to the past instead of tomorrow N'esy Pas?

Whereas the old Mayor when I was in High School then UNB Fat Fred City was singing the praises of the Irving and McCain Clans today I started humming Bud The Spud a great song which came out when Bud Bird was first elected and Wally Bird was the Lieutenant Governor. .







Alex Forbes 
Alex Forbes
This would only prove what I already believe: that there is no fundamental difference between the "mainstream" parties.


David Amos
David Amos
@Alex Forbes I agree







Donald LeBlanc 
Donald LeBlanc
Respectfully disagree with Mr. Bird. Mr. Gallant had his chance to gain the respect of the electorate over the last four years and clearly has not. Too many instances of not listening to the will of the people, ramped up secrecy, questionable deals, loss of democracy, in my opinion. He did not receive the popular vote majority as he likes to say. The opposition parties did, the popular vote and 28 seats. Time to let these parties govern and perhaps we will get to the highest common denominator.


David Amos
David Amos
@Donald LeBlanc "Respectfully disagree with Mr. Bird"

Me Too But without the respect








keith rodgers 
keith rodgers
Worked great in Italy and Greece....


David Amos
David Amos
@keith rodgers Methinks many would agree that Italy and Greece are not very good examples of well run democracies N'esy Pas?








Darryl Smith 
Darryl Smith
So to all those in favour of this idea please explain to us how this would work? Let’s take Fracking as an issue! Liberals ran the energy companies out of the province, Higgs was looking to get rid of the ban and allow some development. Sounds like diametrically opposed Positions. How would they make any headway on that issue? Gallant was promising so much we were looking at two more years of deficits, conservatives ran against how are they ever going to table a budget? Liberals for carbon tax PC against, who bends on this one?

Let’s face it for those claiming both parties are the same you are just wrong. They most definitely are not, nor have they ever been the same. Those crying about the status quo are merely stumping for the Greens or the PANB


David Amos
David Amos
@Darryl Smith Well Put Sir



Marc Martin
Marc Martin 
@Darryl Smith

*Liberals ran the energy companies out of the province*

Actually the protesters did, there is to many anti-everything in NB.

*Higgs was looking to get rid of the ban and allow some development. *

The same Higgs who signed that monstrous contract for our forest ? The same Higgs who was working for the Irvings ?

*Let’s face it for those claiming both parties are the same you are just wrong*

Yeah your right...they are not the same Libs are pro middle class while Cons are pro big industries tax cuts...







Richard Riel 
Richard Riel
Same salaries same perks same pensions who would think they are thinking about their salaries before their constituents.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Riel I do



Richard Riel 
Richard Riel
Let's reinvent a two seat seats


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Richard Riel

*Let's reinvent a two seat seats*

This is funny ha ha

David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everything is funny to Little Lord HA Ha N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks CBC really likes you N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Come one Davis, don't be so mad you did win your American election.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin You didn't have to reply it already went "Poof"

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

You should see what the remove from me...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin I can only imagine considering all the nasty stuff they allow to be published

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Nasty ? How's that Davis ?



Richard Riel 
Richard Riel
Either way wow what a load of salaries perks and pensions for those seat warmers. Who is going to pay for those guys.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Riel Me and you and the legion of other poor saps who are overtaxed and do not work for the government in order to feed at its trough..








Darryl Smith 
Andrew Jackson
Silly idea. The Conservatives won, they should form government.


David Amos
David Amos
@Andrew Jackson Nobody won









Darryl Smith  
Bernard McIntyre
Bud Bird using the to company's of McCain and Irving just shows how much he's out of touch with reality. 1st The McCain's didn't even make it through the1st generation before the were fighting which end up with both brothers going their separate ways. 2nd The Irving's have been fighting for years for control of the business. So the concept of these two men Gallant and Higgs forming a coalition makes no sense. They have hardly talk to each other since the election so the chances that they would form a government are pretty slime if not at all.


David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre "Bud Bird using the to company's of McCain and Irving just shows how much he's out of touch with reality."

I believe it is proof of just how well connected Bud Bird is to the people who oversee the politicians









Michael Ufford 
Marc Martin
Maybe after lighting one tomorrow they will want to work together....


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Leave it to a liberal bureaucrat to suggest that party leaders smoke some dope N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Leave it to a Trump voter to assume anything...

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Funny how the radical people haven't said any thing about how the Liberal party wants to work with the PANB party by doing an overhaul of N.B Ambulance which should have been done before the election anyway.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everybody knows that I could vote for any Yankee because I am a Canadian How quick overpaid liberal bureaucrats forget everything except when to and where to buy cannabis N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

That's a rumor, it would be their death if they would work with the Anti-French party of NB.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Actually I don't even know where the cannabis stores are ? Do you ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin I don't care i don't smoke dope remember?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. So I guess the Telegraph Journal writes rumors and false news. Ok Mr. Trump.

David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre Methinks it is what the Telegraph Journal does not write that truly matters N'esy Pas?


Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@David Amos. Well yes I can agree with you on that with some articles.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

*So I guess the Telegraph Journal writes rumors and false news. Ok Mr. Trump.*

I have no idea what your talking about...


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

*I don't care i don't smoke dope remember?*

And how would I remember that ? its not like I personally know you N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks even a liberal bureaucrat could not forget the comments he made today in another comment section N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "I have no idea what your talking about..."

Finally a liberal bureaucrat shows a little ethics

David Amos
David Amos
@Bernard McIntyre "Well yes I can agree with you on that with some articles."

Do you know why I sued the Crown?

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. I don't know you came to that conclusion but then again I have said before, you only read what your mind seems to want to read.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

What is a liberal bureaucrat to you ? I think you may not know the right definition of this N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "What is a liberal bureaucrat to you ?"

YOU are the perfect example so look in the mirror.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

That's the thing I am not a Liberal bureaucrat....You need to google the definition...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you need to Google me if you truly believe I am a Yankee N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "That's the thing I am not a Liberal bureaucrat"

Methinks everybody knows that you already admitted you are a bureaucrat who votes for liberals N'es Pas?



Rosco holt
Rosco holt
@David Amos
"@Marc Martin Leave it to a liberal bureaucrat to suggest that party leaders smoke some dope N'esy Pas?"

Most of them already do, when you base it on some of their decisions/ actions.









Michael Ufford 
Jonas Smith
With Higgs as Premier and Brian resigning his seat, sure. There's no room in Nb Politics for Gallant, he's too "my way or the highway"


David Amos
David Amos
@Jonas Smith Methinks many folk have heard that "my way or the highway" rhetoric for ALL the party leader N'esy Pas?








Michael Ufford 
Shawn McShane
30 per cent of NBer voters did not vote Liberal or Conservative. Experts said that was groundbreaking, that the people have spoken, that the big winners were the third parties, no more status quo etc.

A grand coalition or a double-cross means the same thing to that 30 per cent. Libs only got 37.8 per cent.


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks it is a double double-cross N'esy Pas?









Michael Ufford 
Michael Ufford
Although Germany continued its "Grand Coalition" after the last, inconclusive election, it was not what most Germans wanted. It took six months of unsuccessful negotiations trying to come up with a better alternative. The young social democrats almost vetoed another arrangement with the conservatives and it enraged and energized the populists who are almost certain to gain even more seats in the next election, which may be sooner than later. Importing European election practices (like PR) to Canada is said to make Canadian governments more collegial. But it's not our style and it's not even the European's style because their elections and coalitions are just as ruthless and Machiavellian as ours.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1577709182538721/?multi_permalinks=1914901198819516&notif_id=1539704567473209&notif_t=group_activity


David Amos
David Amos
@Michael Ufford Who cares about Grand Coalitions in Germany? Methinks I live in New Brunswick My political foes know that I know for fact our politicians are just ruthless or as you say "Machiavellian" as anywhere else N'esy Pas?









 Michael durant 
Michael durant
There is very little separating these two mainstream parties anyway. Its been our experience for at least the last four decades both these parties follow the same political ideology and very little changes in this province. A coalition of the two is just another way of expressing little change.


Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@Michael durant They both serve the same master and it ain't us wee folk.

David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr Oh So True






Norman Albert Snr 
Robert Brannen
Recent polling shows that the people of New Brunswick have the following preferences for a blended government:

Liberal-Green 52 %,
Progressive Conservative-Green 48 %,
Progressive Conservative-Peoples Alliance 41 %,
Liberal-Peoples Alliance 34 %.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Robert Brannen Methinks you and Bud Bird may be sharing the same pipe or maybe not N'esy Pas?

https://www.wikiart.org/en/rene-magritte/the-treachery-of-images-this-is-not-a-pipe-1948


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Robert Brannen

*Progressive Conservative-Peoples Alliance 41 %,
Liberal-Peoples Alliance 34 %.*

PANB wish this would happen, but it will never happen, it would be the death to either the Libs or Cons.

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Marc Martin The PC/Lib grand coalition would be the death of those two parties

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane

Actually why not just have another election ?


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Exactly



Robert Brannen
Robert Brannen
@Marc Martin

Because, in spite of Blaine Higgs obvious ignorance of such, the Lieutenant-Governor must follow protocol before a new election can be called.










 Norman Albert Snr 
Roland Godin
It would be a tsunami political shift, from the narcissistic emotional intelligent muscle brawn side of the brain colour painting by numbers politics; to the intellectual cognitive rational side, with insight and discernment, needed to legislate.


David Amos
David Amos
@Roland Godin Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?


Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@David Amos why do you end every one of your comments with that?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jeff LeBlanc

I think that is bothering you N'esy Pas ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc I use Chiac to upset snobs and liberal bureaucrats such as little Lord Ha Ha


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

It does not bother me at all, I think its actually funny since *N'esy Pas* sounds like an English person trying to speak French.

Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@David Amos well thank you for an honest reply I appreciate that

David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc Is there any other kind of answer worth reading?


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "N'esy Pas* sounds like an English person trying to speak French."

Methinks that is because that is exactly what it is N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "Methinks you thinks too much don't you thinks ?"

Methinks anyone can guess at what my reply was N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Chiac is English ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope it is Chiac. Methinks that you don't even now where the Bay of Fundy is let alone ever been down here N'esy Pas?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

It does not matter what your reply is, most of what you say does not make any sense.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks that is because you don't understand plain English N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I actually went there 2 time this summer, but I make sure to speak English only so that I don't get thrown tomatoes by the Anti-French crowd that lives there.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I understand English well, just not yours....










Norman Albert Snr 
Nicholas Dippler
The Irvings have spoken.


David Amos
David Amos
@Nicholas Dippler YUP


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Davis stop liking your own comments....

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin I just "liked" myself now


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

I'm pretty sure you always like yourself...

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks its pretty easy for anyone to verify N'esy Pas?


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Verify that you like yourself ?

David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin DUHHH????



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Ehhh ?










 Dave Peters 
Dave Peters
I believe that this reporter is more interested in the status quo than moving us forward. Do the election results even matter to you Monsieur Poitras. This province obviously wants change, perhaps your articles could reflect this once in awhile. Both leaders have indicated to Mr. Bird not a chance of coalition. Was this article to ask them to re-consider??


David Amos
David Amos
@Dave Peters Methinks you should prepare for the next election N'esy Pas/


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Dave Peters

The majority of the province do not want PANB...

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Or the Liberals with the result of this election.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Well 38% did vote for them, looks like a majority for me.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. See that's your problem 38% out of 100% is not a majority. Your math seems to be quite off.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

It is when its an election.



Dave Peters
Dave Peters
@Marc Martin Perhaps you can inform us of why? 48K voters said they wanted change. I think those 48K votes will increase if an election is called, it's just a matter of how much. They (PANB) are the only party to increase their popular vote significantly. It will happen again. The current narrative you are a proponent of will not hold water over the long term.

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. News to me the liberal's came in 2nd with 21 seats PC's22 seats. So I guess 38% doesn't win a majority.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Dave Peters

*48K voters said they wanted change*

And 150 000 voters wanted status-quo are you ignoring these voters mr PANB representative ?

*It will happen again. *

The CoR party said that a few years ago.. Different name same agenda.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

They still didn't lose tough :)

Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Give it time, the liberals will lose.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Yeah probably...but so will the Cons :) ... I predict another election.


David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin "I predict another election"

Methinks that is not rocket science Your hero Gallant knows the real question is when and who will get the blame for it N'esy Pas?



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Again, your making no sense....









 Dwight Williams 
Dwight Williams
You have to understand the significance of a coalition like this. The two entrenched neoliberal parties comprise two opposing organizations whose existence has been justified mainly by the need to fight one another. For two entrenched power centres whose main objective has always been to get power and keep it from the other organization, to agree to share it instead, is a big thing.

This is fundamentally different that one of these entrenched powers agreeing to partner short-term with a fringe party. And maybe that's why the partisans here hate it so much.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dwight Williams Methinks the PANB would have a hay day that would last four years if Bud Bird got his wish N'esy Pas?









 Norman Albert Snr 
Shawn McShane
In Europe "grand coalitions" are formed to keep the smaller parties out of government. As smaller parties gain electoral support the traditional governments lose their majorities. Traditional parties like the PCs and LIbs which have historically alternated in government join forces to remain in power. It is all about holding onto power. It isn't about democracy.


David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane "It isn't about democracy."

Methinks everybody knows democracy and justice are myths promoted by politicians, journalists and Hollywood No doubt Leonard Cohen's ghost agrees N'esy Pas?








 Norman Albert Snr 
Al Marsden
People want good government and do not care about politicians playing childish games, jockeying for position and uncertainty.
If these guys can't grow up and do what is best for the province then have another election and toss them all out and start over.


David Amos
David Amos
@Al Marsden "toss them all out and start over."

Methinks many folks would agree that is the best part of of your comment N'esy Pas?








Dwight Williams  
Dwight Williams
Can you imagine this happening in the USA?

I find this a very encouraging sign for the health of our democracy.


David Amos
David Amos
@Dwight Williams Methinks you must know that most folks consider this a joke N'esy Pas?









Mark Deckard 
Mark Deckard
Someone should tell Bird that marijuana is only legal in NB starting on October 17th. What a pipe dream!


David Amos
David Amos
@Mark Deckard Well Put Sir







 Norman Albert Snr 
William Edwards
Really no diff between PC and Libs, they both stink.


David Amos
David Amos
@William Edwards Oh So True








Norman Albert Snr 
Aaron Allison
I have been saying this since the election was over. It's a smart move



Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Aaron Allison It is a desperate move.

Aaron Allison
Aaron Allison
@Shawn McShane It better than working with the Green or the Anti French Party.

Therese Benoit
Therese Benoit
@Aaron Allison getting rid of duality is not anti french. stop listening to the bs and read their platform. im french and i voted panb to save taxes and to try to get common sense back in nb govt

herbie harris
herbie harris
@Therese Benoit Well there you go the only French vote for the panb has been revealed... Your Christmas dinner with family should be fun...


reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Aaron Allison and I wouldn't want the Conservatives working with Liberal and the anti English Acadian Party

David Amos
David Amos
@reginald churchill Methinks about half the folks in the province agree with you N'esy Pas?



Natalie Pugh
Natalie Pugh
@Aaron Allison You are out of line and fear mongering once again. There is not Anti-French party!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Aaron Allison

*It better than working with the Green or the Anti French Party.*

So true !!

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Therese Benoit

*im french and i voted panb*

You have voted to have your French language rights removed good for you !! What are you going to vote for next ? Slavery ?

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill

*Conservatives working with Liberal and the anti English Acadian Party*

There is an anti-English party ? Why weren't they on the ballot ?


reginald churchill
reginald churchill
@Marc Martin my mistake it should have read society instead of party

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill

That's too bad after what ive been reading here the past few weeks, I think I would have voted for them in the future.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Natalie Pugh

* You are out of line and fear mongering once again. There is not Anti-French party!*

Yes there is they are called PANB.


Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@David Amos

Methinks you thinks too much don't you thinks ?



Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Can you not read. Theresa Benoit said she voted to save tax money and put some common sense back to government in which you seem to lack of.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Some people are getting touchy !! 98% of PANB platform is anti-French, so she voted anti-French.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Marc Martin "Methinks you thinks too much don't you thinks ?"

Methinks it beats being a mindless liberal bureaucrat N'esy Pas?


Bernard McIntyre
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Only a person with your reasons would come up with stupid conclusion like that.

Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Bernard McIntyre

Don't be so mad Bernard...








 Norman Albert Snr 
Jake Quinlan
If you are of the mind that these two parties are 2 sides of the same coin and you wanted neither, then this does not serve you. This would give the 2 3rd parties a hell of a lot of question period time, might be good as they may not hold much back with those questions - would put both parties records on trial at same time.

The legislation coming out of the meat grinder that is the 2 big parties being forced to compromise, may not be a bad thing either, get sort o middle of the road governance that has balanced approach to things.

Interesting politics to say the least in this place.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jake Quinlan "Interesting politics to say the least in this place."

Welcome to the Circus








 Norman Albert Snr 
John Valcourt
I think this would be a good idea. Imagine if you could, our provincial politicians putting New Brunswick first, ahead of their own agendas. What a thought.


Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@John Valcourt Liberal/Tory same ol story. What a thought.

Dan Lee
Dan Lee
@John Valcourt
Ithink its a great idea.................

Shawn McShane
Shawn McShane
@Dan Lee Of course you think it is a great idea to keep the Libs in power.

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn McShane YUP








Shawn McShane 
Shawn McShane
Do another election instead of the above two headed abomination. Remember both parties refused to appoint a speaker. When CBC Jacques Poitras asked the PC and Liberal members if any of them would be willing to be speaker all said no and sounded snooty (radio). Roy-Vienneau could swear in a PC government led by Higgs "and see whether the Assembly would be willing to elect a Speaker under him."

There are precedents: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-no-speaker-election-1.4860366


Robert Brannen
Robert Brannen
@Shawn McShane

Jacques Poitras says that option would also likely fail as it did in 1908 in Newfoundland.

David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen Methinks I should be fair and reveal to you that not everybody who runs for public office cares what Jacques Poitras has to say about anything N'esy Pas?



Robert Brannen
Robert Brannen
@David Amos

I'm just pointing out that history shows that Shawn McShane's proposed solution has already been proven to not work. Is it not so?



David Amos
David Amos
@Robert Brannen Methinks that there are 3 stooges who may go for the Speaker's Chair. Flemming claimed that he was joking but I doubt it Then there is the French lieutenants of the Greens and the PCs Both of them could grab the brass ring as well N'esy Pas?









Shawn McShane 
Donna Beardy
Liberals should learn to lose with some dignity like Philippe Couillard did. They have a lot of losses coming their way in the next year.


David Amos
David Amos
@Donna Beardy True



Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Donna Beardy

Not at all, Maxime Bernier just stole most of Andrew Sheers Conservative seats in Quebec, Liberals will be elected another year.








 Shawn McShane 
cheryl wright
for starters Higgs and most of all Gallant will not allow this to happen.. there is too much animosity between the two and really.. why spend all the money and go to the polls if they just form a government anyways


David Amos
David Amos
@cheryl wright Methinks this article should go in the entertainment section N'esy Pas?









 Shawn McShane 
Donna Beardy
PC-Liberal alliance?
Naw….Gallant should just go away


John Price
John Price
@Donna Beardy Naw, they should all go away. That's what the voters wanted - they didn't feel any party earned their trust for a majority, so the leaders of both major parties should go, and new platforms developed.

David Amos
David Amos
@John Price I agree








 Murray Brown
Murray Brown
Sorry Bud... You are an elder statesman and you were a good politician, but that's the sort of idea that somebody who isn't in the game can say... But it is highly unlikely that Higgs and Gallant will never come together to form a coalition. Higgs needs to the PA party and viola... We have a government. If not, then we go to the polls and have a do over.


David Amos
David Amos
@Murray Brown "Sorry Bud... You are an elder statesman and you were a good politician,"

Methinks you don't know the said Bud Bird I know N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bud-bird-compares-alward-government-to-venezuela-1.1135802







Al Bekirkey 
Al Bekirkey
the greens and panb have just succeeded by the looks of this article they finally have to come out in the open and show they are the same with different colored jackets just to keep the trough open for the usual feeders


David Amos
David Amos
@Al Bekirkey "the greens and panb have just succeeded by the looks of this article they finally have to come out in the open and show they are the same with different colored jackets "

Methinks you and Bud Bird need to put down your pipes study the matter far closer N'esy Pas?







John Price
Paul Bourgoin
The Conservatives and Liberals teaming up together in the Legislature is contrary to the why of an elected government. This proposal or move is a power struggle to shut the door to the other three parties who would control nine seats but would be silenced !! Elections are for the People of New Brunswick not the Politicians and their Backers!!


John Price
John Price
@Paul Bourgoin Since the combined Liberal and Conservatives MP, that would represent almost 90% of the population...and this would be a bad thing?

David Amos
David Amos
@John Price "and this would be a bad thing?"

Yes

Methinks everybody knows only the Irving Clan would benefit from such a coalition N'esy Pas?









Brian Robertson 
Brian Robertson
Our left-wing broadcaster is tossing out yet another case to keep the Liberals in power.

I guess it's the price you pay for the backhander Liberals feed the media.


David Amos
David Amos
@Brian Robertson I agree









John Price
Paul Bourgoin
This coalition appears to contradict the purpose of an election and renders public voting a useless practice !!! What is a Democracy?


David Amos
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin What is a Democracy?

A Myth


Norman Albert Snr
Norman Albert Snr
@David Amos silly david. Democracy does not exist. Vote and hope the rest is left to chance. a roll of the dice. When was the last time you were even asked about important issues at hand. Like who should be taxed and how much? What do we do with OUR RESOURCES? What is worth going into debt for? And what PPP is valid, Viable and acceptable? What government incomes are Justifiable?

David Amos
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr "When was the last time you were even asked about important issues at hand"

In September while I was running in this election









John Price 
Therese Benoit
Wouldnt it be grand if both parties could see past their agenda's and put the people of NB first for a change! We all have conservative and liberal ideas but at the end of the day, we want what is best for us! I doubt either leader can put the citizens of NB ahead of their party line, but it would be nice if they did, for a change!


David Amos
David Amos
@Therese Benoit Dream on





Brian Gallant, Blaine Higgs urged to form a grand coalition to govern New Brunswick

Bud Bird, an ex-mayor and cabinet minister, says a Liberal-PC coalition is a 'historic opportunity'


Liberal Premier Brian Gallant and Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs spoke for the first time since the election on Oct. 11, when they encountered each other at an orientation session for MLAs. Bud Bird, a longtime politician, has suggested Gallant and Higgs form a grand coalition. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)



An elder statesman of New Brunswick politics is pushing a bold idea to resolve the political standoff in the legislature: a coalition government between the Liberal and Progressive Conservative parties.

Bud Bird, a former Fredericton mayor, PC provincial cabinet minister and MP, made the proposal in a letter to Liberal Premier Brian Gallant and Progressive Conservative Leader Blaine Higgs.

"There can be no doubt of the strength and direction that would be inherent in the principles of a coalition between Liberal and Conservative parties working together in common cause for the future of New Brunswick," he said.

In an interview, Bird said Gallant and Higgs could work as co-premiers, heading a cabinet of ministers drawn in equal numbers from the Liberal and PC caucuses.
He believes a coalition of the two traditional mainstream parties is the best way out of the impasse created by the Sept. 24 election, which saw no party capture a majority of seats.

The PCs won 22 and the Liberals 21, with the Greens and the People's Alliance winning three seats each.

The Liberals hope to hold on to power by winning a confidence vote in the legislature in the coming months, even though neither of the smaller parties has committed to voting for them.

A 'historic opportunity' proposed


Bird said a better solution would be a Liberal-PC — or PC-Liberal — agreement. He wrote in his letter that it represents a "historic opportunity" for a new approach to politics.

Relying on the smaller parties would mean "we will end up governing to the lowest common denominator, as opposed to the highest common strength," he said.

A Liberal-PC government would hold a commanding majority of 43 out of 49 seats in the legislature.


Gallant has indicated he will try to win the confidence of the legislature. (James West/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
Without such a deal, Bird said, another election is inevitable soon, and he believes the two smaller parties will gain more seats and make the province even harder to govern.

Such "grand coalitions" between two large, rival parties are common in European politics but almost unheard of in Canada. One of the few examples when this country came close was the federal Union government, made up of Conservatives and Liberals, during the First World War.

But Bird said many other organizations have been run well with two people at the top, including McCain Foods and J.D. Irving Ltd.
Bird sent the letter quietly on Oct. 2 and had not planned to make it public until he was contacted by CBC News.

He said in an interview that both Higgs and Gallant turned down the idea, Higgs through an intermediary and Gallant in a phone call to him directly.

"In both cases the message was that it would be impossible to get together, that feelings were so deep as a result of political conflicts over the past several years that this just would not work," he said.

Even so, "I do think it's a wonderful opportunity and I've not been dissuaded. But I don't think it's likely. I know there are all kinds of political obstacles and so on, but none that could not be surpassed if all the people involved put their minds to it."

Bad blood between leaders


The bad blood between the Liberal and PC leaders has been on public display since election night, when Gallant announced he would rely on parliamentary precedents to convene the new legislature and try to win a confidence vote with the support of at least one smaller party.

Higgs has complained that Gallant should have called him to concede when the results showed the PCs winning more seats.

"I guess I would have expected to get a call from him on election night because that's how the system works, but I didn't," Higgs said last week.


Higgs has said he expected Gallant to concede the election to him after the PCs won 22 seats and the Liberals won 21 seats on Sept. 24. (Andrew Vaughan/Canadian Press)
Gallant in turn has accused Higgs of ignoring the parliamentary rules that let the Liberals try to govern.
"He's tried to tell New Brunswickers he's the premier-elect, which is just not the case. So obviously it puts all of us in a very difficult situation."

The two men spoke for the first time since the election on Oct. 11, when they encountered each other at an orientation session for MLAs.

"We haven't talked much directly," Higgs told Gallant.

The premier ignored the remark and congratulated the PC leader for winning his Quispamsis seat on Sept. 24.
Bird suggested the two men "get together in a closed room, with or without the lieutenant-governor, and talk seriously about this. … I know at first glance it will raise hackles all over the place."

But he said Gallant and Higgs would "set a tone" that's different from the political climate throughout North America and go down in history as statesmen willing to rise above their partisan interests.

"If they reflect on the model and the example they would be setting, I think their marks in New Brunswick history would become indelible," he said.

About the Author

 


Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political podcast Spin Reduxit.

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