Quebec's election result was bad for Trudeau, good for almost everyone else

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos 

Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others

Methinks John A. MacDonald's Scottish Forefathers warned us to never trust a Campbell long ago N'esy Pas?


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/quebecs-election-result-was-bad-for.html


#TrudeauMustGo #nbpoli #cdnpoli #TrumpKnew



https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.4846987/it-s-a-bit-cheeky-for-conservatives-to-say-they-could-have-negotiated-a-better-trade-deal-kim-campbell-1.4846992

It's 'a bit cheeky' for Conservatives to say they could have negotiated a better trade deal: Kim Campbell

Former PM says Canada avoided 'a disastrous threat to our economy' from Donald Trump in reaching USMCA deal

CBC Radio · October 2

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will morgan

Funny Andy criticizing Trudeau for giving the Americans the same amount of access to the Canadian dairy market as negotiated by Harper under TPP.

David Amos

@will morgan Welcome to the Circus

Google the following a laugh along with me

trump cohen david amos nafta fatca tpp

Jim conor

Just goes to show that there is still some honest Progressive Conservatives out there. Today's Cons are just a faded memory of what they once were.

David Amos 

@Jim conor "Today's Cons are just a faded memory of what they once were."

John A. MacDonald's Scottish Forefathers warned us to never trust a Campbell long ago.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/02/12/Macdonald-clan-remembers-300-year-old-massacre/1392697870800/

Methinks the ghosts of the old lawyers and former PMs such as MacDonald, Bennett and Diefenbaker have to thank the lawyers such as Campbell, Mulroney, Charest, Lord, MacKay, Mosher and their many cohorts for the demise of their political party and the rise of the Harper government that served the Yankees well N'esy Pas?








 
Robert Morris

Wuh-duh......real cons bad mouthing reform cons......

David Amos

@Robert Morris Methinks its too too funny N'esy Pas?

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David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos 

Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others

Methinks it would awful comical if anyone Nanos talks to has read my Tweets this morning and then spoke about on a live microphone N'esy Pas?


http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/quebecs-election-result-was-bad-for.html

#TrudeauMustGo #nbpoli #cdnpoli #TrumpKnew


 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/legault-quebec-sheer-trudeau-1.4848074

 

Quebec's election result was bad for Trudeau, good for almost everyone else

The prime minister is running short of friends at the provincial level

Chris Hall · CBC News · Posted: Oct 03, 2018 4:00 AM ET

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Dean Melanson

One term trudeau ...... your time is almost at an end goofy .... too bad the same didn't happen to old man pierre ....

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David Amos

@Dean Melanson I concur

Ernie Zimmerman

The trudeau liberals do not have a chance in 2019. There will be many happy Canadian people when trudeau is gone.

Reid Fleming

@Richard Sharp The same pollsters who showed CAQ and the Quebec Liberals “neck and neck” in the hours leading up to the election?

Richard Sharp

@Ernie Zimmerman The Libs are ahead in Quebec by 42% to 15% to 15% for the Cons and NDP according to Nanos just yesterday, and as far ahead in the Atlantic provinces What world do you live in? Is it dreamy?

Don Cameron

@Richard Sharp said,
"What world do you live in? Is it dreamy?"

I've never been able to understand why you decry people's opinions as "slurs and smears", then turn around and insult them?

Is it not possible to state an opinion without some backhanded insult? Frankly, I think the insult detracts from your p os t.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp "The Libs are ahead in Quebec by 42% to 15% to 15% for the Cons and NDP according to Nanos just yesterday, and as far ahead in the Atlantic provinces."

Do ya think anyone Nanos talks to has read my Tweets this morning?

Neil Turv

@david mccaig

Yesterday you were ranting about how the Conservatives and CAQ were nothing alike.

Now CBC has a whole article about similarities and instead of simply admitting you were incorrect(like a grown up) you are calling journalists dumb, and basing everything you think about Legault on things he said 20-30 years ago.

Here's a small piece of information that may help you in the future.

Mature intelligent adults, can change their minds, they can also admit they were wrong, and when people disagree with them it doesn't automatically equal a conspiracy or lack of intelligence.

Richard Sharp

@Ernie Zimmerman

Trying agai9n to respond to your unsubstantiated claim with FACTS:

The Libs are way ahead in Quebec by 42% to 15% to 15% for the Cons and NDP according to Nanos just yesterday, and as far ahead in the Atlantic provinces.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp I responded

Richard Sharp

@Reid Fleming

I believe Nanos predicted a CAQ majority with 85% probability.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp I take issue about what you say about my fellow Maritmers

Richard Sharp

@Don Cameron

I proved Ernie lived in a dream world with facts (yesterday's poll results). His claim was unsupported, mine was.

Richard Ade

@Ernie Zimmerman Hopefully Bernier is able to either become PM with a majority or minority government or hold the balance of power via a coalition or become the official opposition. So far at the federal level, he is the only one that has addressed most of the issues that are of concern to me a fair amount of people I know.

david mccaig

@Richard Sharp

Yes NANOS polls prove at minimum 48% of Canadians want NO PART of these modern day radical right wingers. The best they can muster a little over 30% in support is about the same that Donald Trump gets in the States.

David Amos

@Richard Sharp Methinks that whereas you cannot debate you merely brag about your fellow liberals and your support of them N'esy Pas?

Sam Philip

@Ernie Zimmerman
He had his chance and blew it on open border policy, more refugees, cannabis, pride parades and selfies. He proved to be a real globalist working for Soros.

David Spring

@Ernie Zimmerman

Keep counting your chickens before they hatch Conservatives; Provincial politics don't make much difference at the Federal level, but keep telling yourself that.

Neil Turv

@Sam Philip

I think as far as crazy billionaire conspiracy theories go, Soros and the Koch bros cancel each other out, so it's a wash.

David Amos

@Neil Turv Methinks many would agree that what you call "crazy billionaire conspiracy theories" compound the problem of understanding that it is no theory but an irrefutable fact N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Sam Philip Methinks it was awful comical when Harper got in hot water for pointing that fact out in April N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-tweet-congratulations-orban-1.4613152

However it was in more hilarious when Iggy's boss got out of Dodge in May EH?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/soros-foundation-leaving-budapest-1.4663260

Neil Turv

@David Amos

I would disagree, any time I see Soros or Koch in a comment I just assume that the commenter has nothing of value to say so they deflect with some vague accusation against the billionaire of their choice.

Dax Randall

@Ernie Zimmerman

Hope you like surprises.

David Amos 

@Neil Turv FYI In November of 2003 It was Michael Ratner one of the lawyers working for Soros within Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) who tipped me off about the Yankee Attorney Ashcroft's meeting with Wayne Easter. Rest assured all the political animals know that I called Easter's office and read him and the RCMP and the FBI the riot act while they were having the big Pow Wow about what to do Arar and I before Elliot Spitzer testified about Putnam Investment (Now owned by Power Corp).

Check the dates on pages 1, 2 and 13

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right

Troy Mann

@Ernie Zimmerman

Rehashing your 2015 slogans eh. Remember you were preaching Harper would clobber Trudeau yet Trudeau won a strong mandate.

Only thing that will change in 2019 is your slogan will be 'can't wait till 2023' lol

James Holden

@Ernie Zimmerman

Sure, it's a done deal.
No need to get the Con Base out to vote.

Richard Sharp

@Ernie Zimmerman

Trudeau is preferred by Canadians as PM by almost two to one over Scheer and by six or seven to one over Singh (Nanos, yesterday).

David Amos

@Troy Mann Wanna bet?

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David Amos

@Richard Sharp Are you dating someone in Nanos or just answer all their calls?

James Holden

@Richard Sharp

The censors don't seem to like truthful statements tonight.

Dave MacDonald

@Richard Sharp that from the same outfit that said the Quebec election would be close .

Dave MacDonald

@Richard Sharp Forum gives Tories 6 point lead over Libs and they were the most accurate in predicting NB and Quebec elections .

 

Marko Novak

Trudeau was already running out of friends. He just hadn't caught on to that yet.

Ontario... Check
Quebec... Check

Next... Canada.

Neil Gregory

@Marko Novak

Trudeau II lost a lot of friends when he decided that he didn't have to keep his election promises.

Marko Novak

@Gerard Rosen

Predictable. If you disagree with Trudeau's (and yours apparently) version of utopia, you get called any number of *ist, *phobe, and just generally insulted. Throwing out derogatory remarks at your opponents as you lose shows that your ideology had no real substance anyway.

James Holden

@Neil Gregory

That pissed me off too but not enough to push me into the arms of Sheer = Harper without the charisma.

John Gerrits

@Neil Gregory All politicians break election promises,we expect that and forgive it.Trudeau's problems with the majority runs much,much deeper than a few broken promises

David Amos

@Marko Novak Methinks many folks would agree that knuckling under to Trump and his deadline before the Yankee mid term election was history took the cake and secured Trudeau The Younger's place in history as a one term Prime Minister N'esy Pas?

Richard Sharp

@Marko Novak

In handing Trump a near nothing burger, Trudeau proved his worth negotiating for Canada, holding strong. Trudeau gets along with all premiers, no matter their party. Haven't you noticed?

Dave MacDonald

@Richard Sharp Steel and aluminum workers say Trudeau sold them out and dairy farmers say Justin betrayed them .Nothing burger indeed !

David Amos

@Richard Sharp "Haven't you noticed?"

I noticed you are afraid to argue me

Darren MacDonald

@Marko Novak Provincial relations are at an all time low.

David Amos

@Darren MacDonald YUP

David Amos

@Dave MacDonald "Nothing burger indeed !"

Methinks its a liberal's favourite meal N'esy Pas?

 

John Smythe

Bye bye liberals. Quebec and Ontario have spoken.

Gerard Rosen

@John Smythe
Canada is a very large and diverse nation. Two provinces does not a country make.

John Smythe

@Gerard Rosen

Really? Where do most of the seats come from? What provinces are mostly responsible for electoral outcomes?

Andrew Stat

@John Smythe Provincial governments don't mean the federal governments will be that same. Quebec and Ontario had Liberal governments the entire time Harper was in power. So to imply that is the case is just foolish

Peter While

@Gerard Rosen

Two provinces does not a country make ... but Ontario and Quebec pretty much speak for the future (or lack thereof) of the Liberal Party.

David Amos

@Peter While YUP

David Amos

@Andrew Stat "Quebec and Ontario had Liberal governments the entire time Harper was in power. "

Good point

Methinks it is a distinct possibly that Trudeau The Younger could win a minority mandate next year. If so we shall see how his sunny ways compares to Harper's hard ball politicking then N'esy Pas?

 

John Ng

Canada is hurting under Trudeau, borderless, exodus of PRIVATE capital investments, priorities put on non Canadians, and now a new NAFTA where Canada has agreed to ask the US's permission to engage free trade with any other countries but USMCA, what?

Gerard Rosen

@John Ng
All 3 countries are expected to notify the others when seeking trade deals eleswhere.
Not just limited to Canada.
Please do some research.

Rob Lehtisaari

@John Ng

Your analysis lacks basis in fact, but all the same your entitled to your opinion.

Non-market nation is not every nation for example, and our economy is still doing the best it has in 42 years...the amount of time we have records/statistics to compares such.

Layton Bennett

@John Ng
I guess you hated hearing about LNG Canada's investment announcement yesterday. Sorta throws a wrench in your narrative.

James Holden

@John Ng

Try facts instead of partisan rhetoric.

David Sampson

@John Ng

Must again intervene to address some of your talking points:

We have the longest undefended border in the world so not sure what you really want to say when you raise " borderless";

Private capital has actually significantly increased over the past 2 years so your smear is unfounded;

" Priorities put on new Canadians", what in heavens name are you desperately trying to state?';

The new agreement ( which I assume as a good Canadian you applaud ) does not require Canada to obtain the "permission" from anyone to engage in free trade, it merely sets out conditions for notice to be provided ( by all parties by the way ) when they enter into new agreements. This is necessary to ensure new agreements, with new partners, do not impact, negatively, on the mutually beneficial agreement of this agreement.

I know you dislike the current government with a mad passion but don't make stuff up!

Byron Whitford

@Rob Lehtisaari

"our economy is still doing the best it has in 42 years"

Not even close to the truth. We were doing far better during the Internet and digital communications boom in the 90s.

Jay Henryk

@David Sampson You are wasting your time. The people on this site aren’t interested in facts.

David Amos

@Jay Henryk True

Neil Turv

@David Sampson

The literal interpretation of the free trade clause is as you describe.

But John's hyperbole and ranting aside, the intent in my opinion is closer to what others are more pessimistically saying. I'm ok with most of the USMCA, but I don't delude my self for a second that the clause regarding free trade with non market countries is anything more than strong arm tactics from the US to dissuade talks with China.

If Canada or Mexico objected tot he US doing it, do you honestly think they'd listen? If so I'd like you to review any ruling against them by NAFTA or the WTO in recent memory.

Pat Smith

@Layton Bennett "LNG Canada's investment announcement"
Yeah, owned completely by foreign companies. They will extract our resources, process it and take out of Canada. Likely using their own workers as well (as Chinese companies are wont to do).

David Amos

@Pat Smith I agree

David Amos 

@Neil Turv Some Deja Vu for you

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/topic/the-canada-us-free-trade-agreement

Mulroney like most political animals know that like the wannabe PM Mr Turner I was against NAFTA out of the gate and never changed my mind.

Methinks many politicians are familiar with this story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?

The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight

"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."

"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."

  

Rory Gallagher

Justins diversity dome is slowly crumbling.

 

David Amos

@Rory Gallagher Methinks Justin's diversity dome is a matter for peoplekind to resolve by the end of next year N'esy Pas?

 

William Ben

The LPC brand is done, it went way too left and frightened most centrists, MSM went to far left with them. The internet is where many go to get rational balanced debate on the many, many out of bounds topics that the left leaning narrative and ideology refuses to discuss. Hence a jump to th right it’s a lesson in reaping what you sow. To have inclusion is to have debate, not one side claiming they are 100% correct all the time, in contradiction to the facts eh Justin.

Mark Edmonson

@William Ben It's also why the polls are misleading.
Tell them you vote liberal and you will be okay.

Mark Edmonson

@Mark Edmonson Job security and such.

Rob Preston

@William Ben So true William. Remember you are suppose to think as they tell you. Not on your own.

Travis Ladwin

@William Ben

There is no truly unbiased media content no matter where you look for it, you must simply dive under the surface and question everything. JT's politics are a popularity contest; me me me which is pretty disgraceful, but flopping over to the CPC is as predictable as can be.

Peter While

@William Ben

All around the world, "progressive" parties are being removed from power.

"Progressives" have lost the traditional concerns of the left (the poor, marginalized and the blue collar worker) and instead have lost their minds, pulling down statues, inventing pronouns and preventing free speech.

Average voters just aren't interested in social justice extremism.

Ron Paul

@Mark Edmonson If everyone is convinced the liberals are going to win by a landslide they won't turn out to vote for their own party. It's not a coincidence that inaccurate polling always favours the liberals.

David Amos

@Ron Paul ""It's not a coincidence that inaccurate polling always favours the liberals."

I agree

Dionne Albert

@William Ben

They went too far right in BC. They bought that ridiculous pipeline, for which we will all be paying for some time. Christmas came early for Kinder Morgan and its shareholders.

David Amos

@Peter While "Average voters just aren't interested in social justice extremism."

Oh So True

David Amos

@Travis Ladwin "There is no truly unbiased media content no matter where you look for it, you must simply dive under the surface and question everything"

I wholeheartedly agree Sir.

 

Jim Clark

Canadians have had enough of trudeau and are fighting back.

Chris Halford

@Richard Andrews

Trudeau has been in power for almost three years and Ford just got elected so it's more like 7 years overlap with Harper, not 10.

David Amos

@Chris Halford "Both will repent soon enough given the jerks they elected."

Dream on

  

Evan Guest

The Liberal brand is past its "best before date".

David Amos

@Evan Guest YUP

 

Ralph Eddy

Go CAQ get err done make Quebec great again it will be good for everyone.

Andrew Stat

@Ralph Eddy The economy is already booming. Lets hope the CAQ don't mess it up....

Gary Norton

@Andrew Stat Yes, just think how could Canada could do if we actually did something!

Scott Stephens

@Andrew Stat you know justin added almost 100B debt in three year right.

Andrew Stat

@Scott Stephens Nice, making up stats again. Good job!

John Gerrits

@Andrew Stat As valid as making up liberal facts

David Amos

@Andrew Stat Well then how much did he add to the debt?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/grenier-quebec-election-polls-1.4844227

Ahead of Quebec's election, polls indicate François Legault's CAQ is close to winning a majority

CAQ holds narrow lead over incumbent Liberals, but edge among francophones could be decisive

Éric Grenier · CBC News · Posted: Sep 30, 2018 4:00 AM ET

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David Amos

@Jonathan Murphy I agree to a point.

Methinks I would like to see the outcome in this election in Quebec and the federal one next year yield minority governments with polling results just like what the folks in New Brunswick were treated to last week. Maybe then we would finally get the governments we deserve N'esy Pas?

steve martin

The Exorcism of liberals province by province is sure fun to watch

David Amos

@steve martin Welcome to the Circus

  

ralph jacobs

I think the present Liberal government has turned a lot of Canadians off the Liberal party.

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David Amos

@ralph jacobs Methinks Harper 2.0 and his old buddy Maxime love to read such things posted in CBC. However its rather strange that your comment was not disabled N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@ralph jacobs I agree

  

Rob Preston

Get rid of the liberals Quebec and be proud again.

David Amos

@Rob Preston Who said they were not?

 

Roger Jerome

Trudeau owns liberal failure

David Amos

@Roger Jerome Nope Methinks his puppet masters do After all he is just following their orders N'esy Pas?

  

David Kane

The only one who truly loves Trudeau , is Trudeau ,...….seems the votes lately show that , but the media tries to spin everyone loves the narcissist

David Amos

@David Kane "everyone loves the narcissist"

Of course just the dude many Yankees call "The Donald"

Bill Bohrd

@David Kane It's looks like spinning is a con's pastime. The article is about François Legault's CAQ, and everybody talks about Trudeau and Liberals.

David Amos

@Bill Bohrd Methinks the election results will have an effect on the future of Trudeau and Liberals CBC seems to agree N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/political-twists-mean-the-quebec-election-is-now-too-close-to-call-1.4841383

Ernie Zimmerman

Soon to be another liberal party gone in Canada. The trudeau liberal government is next. Goodbye liberals.

steve curtis

@Ernie Zimmerman
Can't be soon enough!

Ernie Zimmerman

@steve curtis
I agree.

David Amos

@Ernie Zimmerman Me Too

  

Terry R Avante

Bye bye liberals. Coast to coast there is a cleansing taking place. The feds will be next. The root of division in Canada, the party that attends trade demanding gender equality as 73% of our export is for goods and services not values. The party that has its face in every facet of Canadian’s lives. How much tax dollars are now being funnelled into Quebec in an effort to prop up the liberal party there? Time for a federal cleansing.

Ken Douglas

@Terry R Avante
Yes, a year and a half ago the BC Liberals were toppled after taking a $5M bribe to approve the TMX expansion. Not $5M to the province, $5M to the party.....the party so far right they almost fell off.

David Amos

@Ken Douglas Methinks a liberal or a conservative by any other name would smell as corrupt N'esy Pas?

Dave MacDonald

This is historic.The most left wing province in Canada is about to elect a right wing government .

David Amos

@Dave MacDonald Methinks that is a telling thing N'esy Pas?

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.4846987/it-s-a-bit-cheeky-for-conservatives-to-say-they-could-have-negotiated-a-better-trade-deal-kim-campbell-1.4846992

It's 'a bit cheeky' for Conservatives to say they could have negotiated a better trade deal: Kim Campbell

Former PM says Canada avoided 'a disastrous threat to our economy' from Donald Trump in reaching USMCA deal

CBC Radio · October 2

Former Canadian prime minister Kim Campbell says the new North American free trade deal is a success. (Jonathan Hayward/Canadian Press)


The Conservatives should stop criticizing how the Liberals negotiated the new North American trade agreement, and instead trumpet their contribution in striking the deal, says former Canadian prime minister Kim Campbell.

In reacting to the new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said "Canada has failed to achieve progress on key issues, while giving ground to the U.S."

But Campbell, who served in Brian Mulroney's cabinet during the original NAFTA negotiations, says Canada "managed to fend off what could have been a disastrous threat to our economy" from U.S. President Donald Trump.

• AS IT HAPPENS: As USMCA replaces NAFTA, writer mourns a good acronym

She spoke to As It Happens host Carol Off. Here is part of their conversation.

Was this week's signing of this new trade deal a little bit of déjà vu?

Personally, I gave a sigh of relief because, you know, things could have been much worse and we're dealing in kind of uncharted territory here with this new president.

So what is really different, though, from NAFTA? Because what's being criticized is that, well, "What did we really get?"

The economy is very different now from what it was 25 years ago when NAFTA was negotiated. So I think it's not unreasonable to say that there should have been some discussion about the modern digital economy and intellectual properties, all of those issues. And I think those were dealt with, and I don't think we lost too much.

Of course the big to-do will be over the question of access to our dairy, to our supply-managed industries. But the interesting thing is that the percentages are very small — just a tweak more than had already been negotiated in the TPP.

And also, the American dairy market is now open to us. So there was a bit of reciprocity there. That could be kind of interesting.

• What we know about the new USMCA trade deal

• Buried behind the cows and cars: key changes in NAFTA 2.0

What do you make of the kind of heavy criticisms from Andrew Scheer and his fellow Conservatives about this deal?

I think that it's a bit cheeky for the Conservative leader to suggest that his party could have done better.

[Former Conservative industry minister] James Moore and [former Conservative interim leader] Rona Ambrose were part of the advisory committee. You know, this was not a single-party negotiating strategy.

To the extent that we've managed to dodge the bullet, I think all parties should take credit for it and not nit-pick.

CBC News

Scheer on the USMCA

00:00 03:09

Opposition Leader Andrew Scheer criticizes the US, Mexico, Canada Agreement on free trade negotiated by the Liberal government. 3:09

I want ask you a question about [being] a female politician at the time, in the '90s ... and how bruising it often was for women in politics. It was a real boys' club that was negotiating that deal: both FTA and NAFTA. What did you make of [Foreign Affairs Minister] Chrystia Freeland and her style?

It just seemed to me that she's very professional.

The interesting thing about Chrystia Freeland is that she had the trade portfolio before she went into foreign affairs, so she had that period of time where she probably had a chance to really get her head around these issues.

The fact that the prime minister asked her to lead the process is not surprising.

Campbell said it's no surprise Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, left, assigned and Minister of Foreign Affairs Chrystia Freeland, right, to negotiate the deal. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Would it have been surprising for a woman to be leading the negotiations back in the '90s or the '80s?

[Former PC cabinet minister and senator] Pat Carney would like you to think that she played an important role in the negotiation and probably did, and thinks that sexism resulted in her being expunged from the record.

That's right. She was shut out, wasn't she, of the whole historical record of that?

I wish I could say I didn't think there's any sexism in that interpretation but, you know, I think there is and I think that she did a great and a professional job.

If I were the Conservatives, rather than getting my teeth into the government's ankles, I would get Rona Ambrose and James Moore talking about the process and the role that they played because it was a multi-party exercise, and very good people from the Conservative Party were key to the process.

• 'Death by a thousand cuts': Canadian dairy farmer disappointed by USMCA deal

• Why milk and cheese won't be cheaper under the new trade deal

On other occasions, you might get some traction from saying, "We would have done better." But I don't think anybody's going to believe that given the nature of the American leadership at the moment.

I think we should say, you know, good on us that we we really managed to fend off what could have been a disastrous threat to our economy by someone whose understanding of trade is not, you know, the most current thinking.

Do you really think that Donald Trump was serious that he was going to tear up NAFTA?

I think it was a real risk. And who knows what would have set it off?

Our people — without not being who we are, you know, without becoming toadies — they stood up for Canadian values. And some people thought they stood up for them too much. But they did, and lived to tell the tale.

Written by Sheena Goodyear. Produced by Jeanne Armstrong. Q&A has been edited for length and clarity.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/legault-quebec-sheer-trudeau-1.4848074

Quebec's election result was bad for Trudeau, good for almost everyone else

The prime minister is running short of friends at the provincial level

Chris Hall · CBC News · Posted: Oct 03, 2018 4:00 AM ET

The loss of Liberal premiers has become a trend since Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took power just three years ago. (Chris Young/Canadian Press)

François Legault hadn't even delivered his victory speech after Monday's Quebec election when he received a congratulatory phone call from Ottawa. It was federal Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer on the line — and he wanted to be the first.

​Legault's Coalition Avenir Québec party doesn't have formal ties to Scheer's party. Conservatives still might have the most to gain from Legault's triumph.

Both parties support lower taxes. Both want tighter controls on immigration and are willing to play identity politics for electoral gain. Both would share the view that the new North American trade agreement negotiated this week did no favours for dairy farmers.

Friends in Quebec City

Scheer also would know that a number of federal Conservatives in the province ran for the CAQ, or are working behind the scenes for it — and that Legault's party won convincingly in parts of the province that the Conservatives are targeting in the run-up to the next federal election.

"They won't necessarily be door-knocking with us next year but we will be working with the CAQ because they are more closely aligned with us than the Liberals," a senior Conservative aide said Tuesday.

Conservative leader Andrew Scheer arrives with Richard Martel, who won the federal byelection in the riding of Chicoutimi-Le Fjord, before question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on June 20, 2018. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)

He said the federal Conservative party, which holds a dozen seats in Quebec, believes it can build on its recent byelection success in Chicoutimi-Le Fjord by capturing other seats in the Saguenay region. He also sees opportunities along the north shore of the St. Lawrence and Montreal's south shore, areas that went solidly CAQ this week.

Scheer might see a future partner in Legault, but he wasn't the only one trying to get him on the phone. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also was quick to offer congratulations. As a PM and a fellow Quebecer, Trudeau is just as interested in knowing Legault's priorities — and just as content to work with an incoming premier who won't hold a referendum on sovereignty.

"There are a lot of conversations to be had," Trudeau told reporters Tuesday during a visit to British Columbia. "I'm sure we will have disagreements from time to time, but we will do so in a constructive way that serves the citizens who have entrusted us with responsibilities."

Those disagreements won't take long to develop.

Legault already is hinting he'll follow the lead of Ontario Premier Doug Ford and use the notwithstanding clause in the Charter of Rights to enforce his plan to ban public servants from wearing visible religious symbols.

He wants to cut the number of immigrants in Quebec by 20 per cent and threatened during the campaign to expel those who don't learn French within three years — even though the province has no such power.

• François Legault would invoke notwithstanding clause to ban hijabs from civil service

• Analysis
  François Legault's CAQ swept to power by suburbs, rural regions and francophones

• Quebec elects CAQ majority government, Liberals see historic losses

Liberal MPs, especially those from regions where CAQ candidates picked up seats from the provincial Liberals, spoke Tuesday about their willingness to work cooperatively on issues of shared interest.

"It's a new day in our region, of course," said Gatineau Liberal MP Steve MacKinnon. CAQ candidates won three of the five seats in his region, but MacKinnon said he's not worried about a 'change' vote carrying over into next year's federal campaign.

"I think people make their political decisions on the basis of jurisdiction. There's a long tradition of that in Quebec. And I think people will decide on the issues and I look forward to presenting our views … in 2019."

Even so, the loss of Liberal premiers has become a trend since Trudeau took power just three years ago.

In four provinces — B.C., Ontario, New Brunswick and now Quebec — the prime minister has lost key allies on signature files. Whatever alliances existed on health care, climate change, energy and immigration are now gone, fractured along regional and party lines.

But the impact of the Quebec election goes beyond the fact that voters elected a party other than the Liberals or the Parti Quebecois for the first time in half a century.

Quebec Solidaire's Manon Massé speaks to her supporters in Montreal after the Quebec election in the Quebec provincial election Monday, October 1, 2018. (Peter McCabe/Canadian Press)

Quebecers also gave the left-leaning Quebec Solidaire 10 seats — triple the number it had going in — while relegating the PQ to fourth place, a result that stripped the party of René Lévesque of official status in the National Assembly.

Eight of those new QS seats overlap ridings represented federally by the NDP. One of them is Rosemont La Petite-Patrie, home of NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice.

"That's good news for us. There's a strong feeling, especially among young voters, for progressive, forward-looking values," Boulerice said.

"That's good news for us. It's not a guarantee, for sure, but it's a start because we are pushing the same environmental and social issues."

This is no minor point. Polls suggest federal New Democrats are losing ground to the Liberals. They need to rebuild support, they need volunteers. They know the party's federal 16 seats in the province are up for grabs. Liberals and Conservatives are circling.

Courting the youth vote

Young voters, in particular, played a big role in Trudeau's election victory three years ago. Retaining their support may not be a must for the Liberals in Quebec, but it surely will be important.

Veering hard to the left on these issues doesn't only help the NDP distinguish itself from the Liberals. It also provides an incentive for people who care about progressive values to work for NDP candidates.

The political landscape in Quebec has changed. The CAQ's victory offers an opening to the Conservatives, while the growth of Quebec Solidaire holds out a lifeline to the NDP. And Justin Trudeau has lost another Liberal ally in a provincial capital.

It all makes the run up to the next federal election in Canada's second largest province even less predictable than before.

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National Affairs Editor

Chris Hall is the CBC's National Affairs Editor and host of The House on CBC Radio, based in the Parliamentary Bureau in Ottawa. He began his reporting career with the Ottawa Citizen, before moving to CBC Radio in 1992, where he worked as a national radio reporter in Toronto, Halifax and St. John's. He returned to Ottawa and the Hill in 1998.

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Ahead of Quebec's election, polls indicate François Legault's CAQ is close to winning a majority

CAQ holds narrow lead over incumbent Liberals, but edge among francophones could be decisive

Éric Grenier · CBC News · Posted: Sep 30, 2018 4:00 AM ET | 

Coalition Avenir Québec Leader François Legault is on track to win the most seats in Monday's provincial election. (Ryan Remiorz/Canadian Press)

When Quebec's election campaign began 38 days ago, Coalition Avenir Québec Leader François Legault was the favourite to win a majority government. A few gaffes and ill-defined policy proposals later, Legault's odds of securing that majority have dropped to no better than a coin-toss.

But if he has a little luck on his side, the ingredients are there for the centre-right CAQ to reach the 63-seat mark necessary to control Quebec's National Assembly — despite his party enjoying the support of less than one-in-three Quebecers.

• Quebec Poll Tracker: CAQ inches ahead, majority now a coin flip

• Analysis
  A eulogy for Quebec's often strange and sometimes silly election campaign

The CBC Quebec Poll Tracker, an aggregation of all publicly released polling data, suggests that the CAQ sits at 31.8 per cent support. That puts it narrowly ahead of Philippe Couillard's Liberals, who have 30.1 per cent support.

(The Poll Tracker will be updated on Sunday should any polls be published. Check back here for the latest numbers.)

That's a much narrower margin than the eight-point lead the CAQ held over the Liberals early in the campaign. But it isn't Couillard nor Jean-François Lisée and the Parti Québécois, which stands at 18.8 per cent support, who have been most responsible for the CAQ's slide in the polls.

Instead, Manon Massé's left-wing Québec Solidaire has had the momentum over the last few weeks.

The party, which captured just 7.6 per cent of the vote in the 2014 provincial election, is now averaging 16.3 per cent in the polls.

Despite the small gap between the CAQ and the Liberals, there is little polling uncertainty in where the parties stand. The three most recent polls of the campaign, published by Ipsos/La Presse-Global News, Mainstreet Research/Groupe Capitale Médias, and Léger/Le Journal de Montréal this past week, differ by no more than two points between any of the parties.

• How to watch the Quebec election results

That indicates the stability there has been in the numbers. The CAQ has registered between 29 and 32 per cent support in nine consecutive polls, though the latest results all suggest a modest rebound at the expense of the PQ. The last six polls have put the Liberals between 29 and 31 per cent.
There are still, however, a lot of unknowns going into Monday's election.

CAQ majority?

The Poll Tracker suggests there is a 50 per cent chance that the CAQ will win at least the 63 seats required to form a majority government.

Their range of seats runs from 48 to 81, a wide band suggesting plenty of close contests throughout the province — some of them involving all four major parties.

The Liberals are estimated to have about a one-in-12 chance of winning the most seats, a result of their historically low support among francophones. The party is projected to win between 29 and 55 seats — well short of the majority threshold. But there is enough overlap with the CAQ that the Liberals could emerge with more seats, particularly if their support is underestimated in the polls.

The Parti Québécois is at risk of losing official party status in the National Assembly, which requires at least 12 seats or 20 per cent of the popular vote. The polls suggest the party may fall short of the latter, while the projection model puts them at 11 seats. However, they are involved in many tight races — trailing the CAQ by five points or less in seven ridings according to the Poll Tracker — so a small bump at the ballot box could make a big difference.

Parti Québécois Leader Jean-François Lisée is running third place in the polls. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)

As for Québec Solidaire, which held only three seats at dissolution, the party could double or even triple its representation in the National Assembly. The model awards the party nine seats — as many as six on the island of Montreal, its traditional base of support, but also one in Quebec City and two in the rest of the province — but sees a potential for even more upsets if the party's momentum continues through to Monday.

But QS could easily fall short of this target, as the party is strongest among young voters, who historically have a low turnout rate.

Legault holds decisive lead among francophones

No party in Quebec has won a majority government with less than 38 per cent of the vote, making the coin-toss odds for a CAQ victory at under 32 per cent a historical anomaly.

But the CAQ has a number of decisive advantages over its rivals. The most important is its support among francophones, estimated to be 37 per cent by the Poll Tracker. That gives the CAQ a 14-point lead over the PQ, which sits at just 23 per cent support. Québec Solidaire is tied with the Liberals at 19 per cent.

Québec Solidaire co-spokesperson Manon Massé could lead her party to a breakthrough off the island of Montreal. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)

Francophones make up about two-thirds or more of the population in 100 of Quebec's 125 ridings, so the CAQ's wide lead among this demographic gives them a key edge in their potential seat count.

Regionally, it translates into commanding leads in the Quebec City region and the suburbs around the island of Montreal, and in the rest of the province outside of the two major urban centres.

Only in Montreal do the Liberals hold a lead, thanks to their dominance among non-francophones. The CAQ is about 30 points behind the Liberals on the island, suggesting they may struggle to win their first seat there. But there is little additional ground in Montreal for the Liberals to gain.

Majority, minority, red or blue?

Put together, the numbers suggest that the CAQ is very likely to win the most seats and has a good chance of squeaking by with a majority government. Those chances will improve if the Parti Québécois, floundering in the final week, continues to bleed support to the CAQ.

The CAQ would also benefit even if the PQ loses voters to QS instead, as the CAQ and QS are not competing for many ridings, whereas the CAQ and the PQ are.

Quebec Liberal Leader Philippe Couillard hasn't been able to make significant gains for his party in this campaign. (Jacques Boissinot/Canadian Press)

But all is not lost for the Liberals. They have a historical tendency to out-perform their polls. That may not happen in this election — particularly since the possibility of a referendum on Quebec independence, an issue that has helped drive undecided voters to the Liberals, has been taken off the table by the PQ. But in 2012, the Liberals were on track for a third-place showing. Instead, they emerged just four seats and less than one percentage point short of the Parti Québécois.

That was a different campaign, however, with three parties splitting the vote between them almost equally. That is not the case in 2018, with the PQ on track for its worst showing and QS changing the electoral landscape in the province.

The margin between the CAQ and the Liberals looks close. It could end up that way on Monday. But there is very good reason to believe that Legault, after failing to deliver in his last two campaigns as leader, is finally on track to win.

Join us tonight at 6 p.m. ET for a live election Q&A with our political and polling experts Jonathan Montpetit and Éric Grenier on our Facebook page.  

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Éric Grenier

Politics and polls

Éric Grenier is a senior writer and the CBC's polls analyst. He was the founder of ThreeHundredEight.com and has written for The Globe and Mail, Huffington Post Canada, The Hill Times, Le Devoir, and L’actualité.

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Methinks the LIEbranos and their nasty spin doctors within CBC are expecting a similar outcome to the election in Quebec tomorrow as the results in New Brunswick last week N'esy Pas?

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Political twists mean the Quebec election is now too close to call

CBC Radio · September 28

Liberal leader Philippe Couillard, left to right, PQ leader Jean-François Lisée, CAQ leader Francois Legault and Quebec Solidaire leader Manon Massé shake hands before their English debate Monday, September 17, 2018 in Montreal, Que. (THE CANADIAN PRESS)

The outcome of Quebec's Oct. 1 election is still far from certain.

About six weeks ago, polls showed Liberal Premier Philippe Couillard was destined to lose to François Legault, leader of the Coalition Avenir Québec. But the tide has turned during the campaign.

• CBC NEWS: Quebec Votes Poll Tracker
• Where Quebec's parties stand on the issues that matter most to you

The Liberals and the CAQ are now neck-and-neck. If either wins a minority of seats, the other parties in contention will hold the balance of power: the Parti Québecois, led by Jean-François Lisée or Québec Solidaire, co-founded by Manon Massé.

The PQ used to be one of the two leading parties in the province, but it has lost significant ground during this election.

"That is the party that is self-destroying in front of our eyes, that is the true drama of what's going on here," journalist and filmmaker Francine Pelletier told The Sunday Edition's host Michael Enright.
"Will the Parti Québecois be, essentially, a shadow of itself as of October second?"

Lise Ravary, a columnist for The Montreal Gazette and Le Journal de Montréal, has covered many provincial elections, but none quite like this one.

Weeks ago, CAQ Leader Francois Legault had a significant lead in the polls. But the tide has turned during the campaign. (THE CANADIAN PRESS)

"We have four parties competing and all four of them, in one way or another, are contenders," she said.

According to Pelletier, the usual tension of federalism versus separatism has been replaced with a left-right split in this election, with two parties on either side of the divide.

"If you compare the CAQ with the Liberals, there's hardly any difference. Even though François Legault is more to the right of Philippe Couillard, he is no Donald Trump, he's not even a Doug Ford," she said. "The one question this election poses is 'Whither the left?'"

• Vote Compass: Compare your views to the Quebec party platforms

Immigration and identity politics were not as dominant an issue during the campaign as many expected they would be. The CAQ advocated for reduced immigration levels, compulsory courses in French and a mandatory Quebec "values test" for newcomers.

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"But it wasn't the emotional issue we lived through when we went through the 'reasonable accommodation' debate," said Ravary. (In 2008, two commissioners in Quebec held months of public hearings on the impact of religious accommodation on Quebec's identity and values.)

Both women predict the CAQ will win the upcoming election. Ravary forecasts a majority government, while Pelletier believes the party will have a minority of seats and will have to form a coalition.

Click 'listen' above to hear the interview.