METHINKS THAT THE FRENCH DUDE JEAN-CLAUDE D'AMOURS AND HIS BOSS THE WANNABE CONTINUE TO PREMIER BRIAN GALLANT OR ANY OTHER LIEBRANO WILL EVER ADMIT READING IT N'ESY PAS?
https://www.telegraphjournal.com/daily-gleaner/story/100728009/tj-letters-oct-1?source=story-related
Be thankful for People's
Alliance
Brian Gallant has said some harsh things about Kris Austin and the People’s Alliance. He should be thanking them. They defeated three Tory MLAs and took enough of what would have otherwise been Tory votes to get a Liberal MLA elected in Saint John and get a Liberal MLA re-elected in Carleton County.
If the Alliance had not been involved in this election there would have been a PC majority government with 27 seats.
I made the mistake of voting for the Alliance this time, but never again. It is back to the PCs for me in the next election.
We now have those in favour of proportional representation demanding that system be adopted here. I am totally opposed to such a system. Every election from now on would be a mess like this one. There would be coalition after coalition and never a stable government.
The worst result of the election was two more Green MLAs, when one was too many.
Moses Fleming
Keswick Ridge
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-former-cor-mla-vote-splitting-election-1.4832078
Former CoR MLA warns vote-splitting won't win election
'I've been through the mill. I know it doesn't work'
Max
White has seen this movie before — and he says it doesn't have a happy
ending for conservative-leaning rural voters fed up with the Liberals.
White, one of eight MLAs elected with the Confederation of Regions, or CoR party, in 1991, is campaigning hard for the Progressive Conservatives, warning voters that supporting the People's Alliance will mean splitting the vote and electing Liberals.
"We have to change from within … [with] a party that can win an election," he said. "That was what I learned in my four years there. So that's why I came back to the Conservative Party."
White is campaigning for Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton Progressive Conservative candidate Mary Wilson, one of many PC candidates warning voters not to cast ballots for the Alliance.
Twenty-seven
years ago, he ran for CoR on a platform similar to the Alliance's —
tackling bilingualism, shaking up the two-party system and giving angry
voters a real voice.
"It didn't work," White said. "And I tell the people today, 'I've been through the mill. I know it doesn't work. I know we've got to work from within.'"
He said people motivated by a particular issue stand a better chance voting for a party that can win an election, then working inside that organization to nudge policy in the direction they want.
Polling trends have shown growing support for the Alliance, a party created in 2010, and the PCs have been warning more openly of vote splits.
Earlier this week, PC leader Blaine Higgs made a series of promises on car registrations and taxes that were similar to Alliance promises — but said only his party is in a position to implement them.
"Why would we take a chance on splitting the vote and having another four years of Brian Gallant?" he said. "Because that is the real risk for New Brunswick."
To try to head off an Alliance split, Wilson is going door-to-door armed with a chart showing the 2014 election results in four ridings where the combined Alliance-PC vote would have defeated the Liberals.
Winning those four seats would have meant a PC government.
"I can show people this chart, in black and white," she said. "The numbers don't lie."
She's also bringing White on some of her door-knocking blitzes, so that he can tell voters from experience what happens when the vote splits.
CoR won eight seats in 1991, and 21 per cent of the vote, on an anti-establishment message. But in many traditionally PC ridings, it split the vote and helped Liberals win.
Alliance leader Kris Austin is pushing back at the vote-split scare.
"What a bunch of nonsense," Austin said in a Facebook video posted Wednesday night. "This is a lot of desperation mixed with a little bit of arrogance."
Austin disputes the idea that the Alliance would take most of its support from the PCs. He pointed out one recent poll showed his party's support growing by about the same amount that the Liberals' was dropping.
Max White, one of eight Confederation of Regions MLAs elected in 1991, said vote- splitting doesn't work. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
The
PC message "is based on people believing that someone who has
traditionally voted Conservative or Liberal is going to vote a certain
way somewhere else," he said.
But Wilson said her chart, and White's testimonial, is helping her.
"There were some people who were looking to go this route," she said. "But once we showed them the numbers and they understood, we won them back."
Wilson's Alliance opponent, Craig Rector, is the son of another former CoR MLA, the late Ab Rector. Craig Rector refused an interview request from CBC News.
The PCs aren't the only party fretting about vote-splitting next Monday. Pressed by reporters Thursday about minority-government scenarios, Liberal Leader Brian Gallant appealed to Green and NDP supporters on Thursday to vote for his party.
"People should ask themselves if there is any sort of vote-splitting, are they contributing to any potential of Blaine Higgs and the Conservatives sneaking up the middle and forming government?" he said.
"Progressives in the province should ask themselves if that's what they want for the next four years."
The Liberal leader made the comment after Higgs opened the door to co-operating with the Alliance if the PCs win a minority.
Gallant said if his party forms only a minority government, it would only co-operate with parties "that share our values," saying that ruled out the PCs and the Alliance.
"We'd be ready to listen to the other parties and work with them in a majority or minority government situation," he said.
CoR collapsed after two years of bitter infighting over the party leadership and the loss of all its seats in the 1995 election.
Many members who had been PC supporters before 1991 returned to the party, including White.
He now says CoR was unrealistic about its galvanizing issue — bilingualism — and the Alliance is repeating the same mistake.
"I think it's going to come back to haunt them a little bit," he said. "We cannot change a bilingual province. It's not going to happen because it's in the Constitution. They can have the idea that 'maybe if we get in, we can change it.' No. You can't change it."
Kris
Austin, People's Alliance Party leader and candidate for the
Fredericton-Grand Lake riding said the vote-split scare is a bunch of
nonsense. (Catherine Harrop/CBC)
White
said Alliance supporters who want to change bilingual hiring practices
for government jobs would accomplish more if they supported a party like
the PCs that has a chance of taking power. Even Higgs, a former CoR
supporter, realized that, he said.
"If you were going to completely change the structure in this province and have 25 or 28 Alliance people, then you could make changes," he said.
Austin maintains that there could be a minority government and in that scenario, two or three Alliance MLAs could demand changes in return for supporting the party in power.
He also insists the changes he wants to make, such as eliminating the official languages commissioner position and dual bus systems for English and French schools, don't require changes to the Constitution.
White, one of eight MLAs elected with the Confederation of Regions, or CoR party, in 1991, is campaigning hard for the Progressive Conservatives, warning voters that supporting the People's Alliance will mean splitting the vote and electing Liberals.
"We have to change from within … [with] a party that can win an election," he said. "That was what I learned in my four years there. So that's why I came back to the Conservative Party."
White is campaigning for Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton Progressive Conservative candidate Mary Wilson, one of many PC candidates warning voters not to cast ballots for the Alliance.
"It didn't work," White said. "And I tell the people today, 'I've been through the mill. I know it doesn't work. I know we've got to work from within.'"
He said people motivated by a particular issue stand a better chance voting for a party that can win an election, then working inside that organization to nudge policy in the direction they want.
Polling trends have shown growing support for the Alliance, a party created in 2010, and the PCs have been warning more openly of vote splits.
Earlier this week, PC leader Blaine Higgs made a series of promises on car registrations and taxes that were similar to Alliance promises — but said only his party is in a position to implement them.
"Why would we take a chance on splitting the vote and having another four years of Brian Gallant?" he said. "Because that is the real risk for New Brunswick."
Candidate using chart to show splits
To try to head off an Alliance split, Wilson is going door-to-door armed with a chart showing the 2014 election results in four ridings where the combined Alliance-PC vote would have defeated the Liberals.
Winning those four seats would have meant a PC government.
"I can show people this chart, in black and white," she said. "The numbers don't lie."
She's also bringing White on some of her door-knocking blitzes, so that he can tell voters from experience what happens when the vote splits.
CoR won eight seats in 1991, and 21 per cent of the vote, on an anti-establishment message. But in many traditionally PC ridings, it split the vote and helped Liberals win.
Austin rejects CoR comparison
Alliance leader Kris Austin is pushing back at the vote-split scare.
"What a bunch of nonsense," Austin said in a Facebook video posted Wednesday night. "This is a lot of desperation mixed with a little bit of arrogance."
Austin disputes the idea that the Alliance would take most of its support from the PCs. He pointed out one recent poll showed his party's support growing by about the same amount that the Liberals' was dropping.
But Wilson said her chart, and White's testimonial, is helping her.
"There were some people who were looking to go this route," she said. "But once we showed them the numbers and they understood, we won them back."
Wilson's Alliance opponent, Craig Rector, is the son of another former CoR MLA, the late Ab Rector. Craig Rector refused an interview request from CBC News.
Gallant talks about splits too
The PCs aren't the only party fretting about vote-splitting next Monday. Pressed by reporters Thursday about minority-government scenarios, Liberal Leader Brian Gallant appealed to Green and NDP supporters on Thursday to vote for his party.
"People should ask themselves if there is any sort of vote-splitting, are they contributing to any potential of Blaine Higgs and the Conservatives sneaking up the middle and forming government?" he said.
"Progressives in the province should ask themselves if that's what they want for the next four years."
Gallant said if his party forms only a minority government, it would only co-operate with parties "that share our values," saying that ruled out the PCs and the Alliance.
"We'd be ready to listen to the other parties and work with them in a majority or minority government situation," he said.
CoR, Alliance 'unrealistic'
CoR collapsed after two years of bitter infighting over the party leadership and the loss of all its seats in the 1995 election.
Many members who had been PC supporters before 1991 returned to the party, including White.
He now says CoR was unrealistic about its galvanizing issue — bilingualism — and the Alliance is repeating the same mistake.
"I think it's going to come back to haunt them a little bit," he said. "We cannot change a bilingual province. It's not going to happen because it's in the Constitution. They can have the idea that 'maybe if we get in, we can change it.' No. You can't change it."
Alliance can't win, White says
"If you were going to completely change the structure in this province and have 25 or 28 Alliance people, then you could make changes," he said.
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Austin maintains that there could be a minority government and in that scenario, two or three Alliance MLAs could demand changes in return for supporting the party in power.
He also insists the changes he wants to make, such as eliminating the official languages commissioner position and dual bus systems for English and French schools, don't require changes to the Constitution.
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Get the latest election updates delivered right to your inbox with The 506er. Subscribe here. And then let us know what you think by emailing us: the506er@cbc.caThat said do tell. Did anybody but mean old me notice that neither Chucky Crybaby Leblanc or his pal Krissy Austin mentioned the Circus on the CBC radio and the supporting article that closed its comment section this morning as they yapped on YouTube today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_WlsXUhrZs
Leader of the New Brunswick People's Alliance Kris Austin interviewed by Blogger!!!
Published on Oct 6, 2018
Yet New Brunswick's infamous welfare bum feels free to tell his fellow Acadians to shut up in two official languages?
TOO TOO FUNNY INDEED
Blogger NOW remembers why he dislikes Acadians Society of New Brunswick!!!!
Check out when the game CBC and the liberals and Conservatives played against the PANB first started or simply scroll down
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pc-party-people-s-alliance-explain-candidates-social-media-posts-1.4776783
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/peoples-alliance-new-brunswick-election-kris-austin-1.4804233
https://twitter.com/DavidRayAmos/with_replies
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-ex-fed-liebrano-jean-claude-damours.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cbc-new-brunswick-political-panel-podcast-1.4851465
MLAs urge broader discussion on divisive language issues
Liberals, PC, Green MLAs say bilingualism should be examined but not used to divide province's residents
CBC News · Posted: Oct 05, 2018 5:00 AM AT
Comments(After the smiling bastards edited a lot out)
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
All these people know why I sued the Crown in 2015 and why my name was on the ballot again in this election
Marc Martin
@David Amos Not realy....
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Shelley Brown
CBC you should be ashamed of
yourself for constantly spreading anti bilingualism propoganda. No party
that ran was anti language (well maybe the Liberals were working againt
uniligual persons) but definitely not PANB. Anyone can eead their
platform. I dont understand how anyone can say Kris Austin that he
stated that he wants to end bilingualism, it is the opposite! This smear campagn should be illegal. CBC needs to either stop
publishing fake news or should see the inside of a court room for this
slander. No one cares if anyone speaks anything! We need a prosperous
NB. CBC YOU ARE CAUSING DIVIDE IN YOUR BIASED SLANDEROUS REPORTING
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David Amos
David Amos
@Shelley Brown YUP
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Stephen Long
Stephen Long
@Shelley Brown Totally agree.
The propaganda the CBC is spewing sounds like something out of 1984 or
East Germany. I don't trust New Brunswicker's to read this stuff with a
critical eye unfortunately which is why they can get away with it.
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John Price
John Price
@Shelley Brown A party who
only talks about all the problems bilingualism has caused in the
province for the last 4-6 years as their main talking point, in every
press release, in every interview - and you're surprised people think
they're anti-bilingualism? Get a grip.
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Jeff LeBlanc
Where's all the Marc Martin posts? This thread would be right up his alley.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc Methinks he knows that I am waiting to pounce N'esy Pas?
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Jeff LeBlanc
Jeff LeBlanc
@David Amos careful he might take your post and paste it and point out that you are wrong like he always does lol
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David Amos
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc A little Deja Vu for you Just because I made no comments it does not follow that I did not read it
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-job-affidavit-1.4821817
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-job-affidavit-1.4821817
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David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos FYI I ran against
the liberal Ian Smyth during this election. I too heard the gossip
about Higgs and Gallant possibly joining forces long ago. I nearly died
laughing when I saw the BS about it during the debates. Gallant should
have just admitted it out of the gate and made Higgs look like the dummy
for not joining him. Now neither of them look credible.
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Marc Martin
Marc Martin
@Jeff LeBlanc I just saw it...im here :)
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David Amos
David Amos
@Marc Martin Way ahead of you
Buford Wilson
OB is destroying NB.
Tim Raworth
@Buford Wilson Yet you support the PC's? They wont do anything to rock the boat. Robert Gauvin will see to that.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Buffoon Wilson, supporting the wrong party... then again..
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David Amos
@Tim Raworth "Robert Gauvin will see to that."
Robert Gauvin? He don't call and he don't write. Methinks he don't love me N'esy Pas?
Robert Gauvin? He don't call and he don't write. Methinks he don't love me N'esy Pas?
e don't call and he don't write. Methinks he don't love me N'esy Pas?
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David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "supporting the wrong party... then again."
Methinks you people should agree that there are lots of Buffoons within the CBC comment sections N'esy Pas?
Here is a good example you two should recall.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-job-affidavit-1.4821817
Remember while I was running against your buddy Ian Smyth in Fundy you and your buddy Martin were covering up for Gallant's BS about hiring Higgs? Well I never said a word in CBC about the Higgs versus Gallant crap but said just enough around Sussex. to see that Ian Smyth lost
Methinks you people should agree that there are lots of Buffoons within the CBC comment sections N'esy Pas?
Here is a good example you two should recall.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-job-affidavit-1.4821817
Remember while I was running against your buddy Ian Smyth in Fundy you and your buddy Martin were covering up for Gallant's BS about hiring Higgs? Well I never said a word in CBC about the Higgs versus Gallant crap but said just enough around Sussex. to see that Ian Smyth lost
Graham McCormack
@Buford Wilson No it isn't. Having to pay for two parallel systems is.
John Price
@Buford Wilson And then people wonder why no one wants to work with the COR ver. 2.0.?
John Price
@Graham McCormack So,
magically, you believe all our financial systems will be solved the
moment we have one school system and one healthcare system? Really?
People actually believe this malarkey?
Gil Murray
Bilingualism as a concept is
not causing the problem. There is no excuse for wasting 40+ years in
failed implementation.. This has nothing to do with duality. If
bilingualism were a success there would be no need to waste resources by
administering the same program twice and people would be hired on
skills and qualifications required to actually do the work.
Entrenched views are creating the divide because of fear on both sides and an elitism that has grown from the failed implementation. Those whose children have succeeded in learning French for whatever reason and those who have the questionable advantage of living in predominant English culture (TV, internet, etc) clearly are benefiting from the failed implementation. That is the divide.
Entrenched views are creating the divide because of fear on both sides and an elitism that has grown from the failed implementation. Those whose children have succeeded in learning French for whatever reason and those who have the questionable advantage of living in predominant English culture (TV, internet, etc) clearly are benefiting from the failed implementation. That is the divide.
Randy McNally
@Gil Murray Yes 40 years was a
great run for an experiment that has obviously failed the vast majority
of New Brunswickers. Thanks to the University of Moncton, spineless
politicians, and the media the only clear success has been the
advancement of the French language, French culture, and individual
francophone prosperity at the direct expense expense of the unilingual
population French, English, and immigrant.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Randy McNally; this immigrant seems to be doing quite good, indeed!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/syrian-refugee-yasser-al-asmi-moncton-university-1.4724951
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/syrian-refugee-yasser-al-asmi-moncton-university-1.4724951
Tim Locke
@Gil Murray
It would surely have been considered a success if upon implementation, the schools were set up to enure everyone graduating knew enough of both languages to get any job requiring both languages.
I do not think it is too late to fix this error but it will take time to see the results. Perhaps the province could help by offering free language classes for anyone who wants to learn.
It would surely have been considered a success if upon implementation, the schools were set up to enure everyone graduating knew enough of both languages to get any job requiring both languages.
I do not think it is too late to fix this error but it will take time to see the results. Perhaps the province could help by offering free language classes for anyone who wants to learn.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Tim Locke, this is where the failure lies, without a doubt.
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks you already know what I thin of your opinion N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
@Marguerite Deschamps
Oh Wow. One individual success story in 50 years. Surely that is worth the billions we have spent on OB.
Oh Wow. One individual success story in 50 years. Surely that is worth the billions we have spent on OB.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer A little Deja Vu for you two
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449
@David Amos, Yup! And the feeling is mutual.
Jake Quinlan
@Marguerite Deschamps The
francophones don't want bilingual schools, too afraid of assimilation??
Or else wouldn't our wise politicians of yesteryear set this thing up as
Tim Locke above suggested?
Luc Aubé
@Tim Locke. the free course
has been offered by our Prime Minister but the Anglophone that voted for
the CORservative and PANB had completed shot there ears off.
John Price
@Gil Murray said: "...people would be hired on skills and qualifications required to actually do the work."
On what planet is language not a skill which employers can benefit from?
It's like saying , we should totally get over this whole needing a law degree thing to provide legal advice. you can't give advice without the degree, just like you can't serve a client in their language if you don't speak it... SMH
On what planet is language not a skill which employers can benefit from?
It's like saying , we should totally get over this whole needing a law degree thing to provide legal advice. you can't give advice without the degree, just like you can't serve a client in their language if you don't speak it... SMH
John Price
@Gil Murray The "divide" is
that some people are willing to put the time and effort required to
learn a 2nd language and some feel "entitled" to all the benefits
without putting in any of the work. That's the divide.
John Price
@David Amos Methinks, you think you're much more important and intelligent than you actually are Mr. 54 votes.
John Price
@Fred Brewer One success
story? Plus, I think you're probably a bit confused... The article was
about immigrant success, but now you're arguing about all the money
spent on OB. You realize those aren't the same, right?
If you're looking for a success story about OB, do you think the new TD center being built in Moncton would have come to Moncton without its bilingual capabilities?
If you're looking for a success story about OB, do you think the new TD center being built in Moncton would have come to Moncton without its bilingual capabilities?
John Price
@Jake Quinlan "too afraid of
assimilation"?!? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if 7
kids are English (with parents like you for example), and 3 kids are
French - geez, I wonder what language would be spoken most often at
these bilingual schools?
Jake Quinlan
So no bilingual schools?
Dan Lee
Wow.....PA rep did not show up.......aint that a fact......oh but we are not againts the french
Tim Raworth
@Dan Lee The Libs, Cons And
Greens are just putting on a show for English NB and a lot of people
will fall for it. At the end of the day they wont change anything. Don't
rock the boat. You can see on You Tube, a video from CBC political
panel of Higgs being asked why they wont merge the two health care
systems into on bilingual system and he said it could be done and
probably should be done but they wont because of "political reasons"
This is the kind of politicians we elect.
Norman Albert Snr
@Dan Lee That would make the
PA whipping boy of the next campaign coming to you real soon. a chance
to acquire some much needed brown points from the 3 on 1 gang. The NDP
was not there either, but then their day has come and gone so no points
to score there. Mr. **** has deeply disappointed me in many ways since
the election. The others I expected no less. they need those 47,000 vote
for their next attempt. The more this becomes THE political focus the
more I see hope for a PA government. Both linguistic communities will
benefit on service where warranted.
stephen blunston
@Tim Raworth this is the
problem week politicians looking out for nothing but there bloated
salaries benefits and pensions , it sure is not for the NB people
David Amos
@Tim Raworth "This is the kind of politicians we elect."
Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" claim we get the governments we deserve and Higgs and his cohorts will never oppose them for "political reasons"
Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" claim we get the governments we deserve and Higgs and his cohorts will never oppose them for "political reasons"
Michael G. L. Geraldson
Fix the economy, give people some hope and a future and the rest will fix itself.
Randy McNally
@Michael G. L. Geraldson But
you just can't say "fix the economy" without saying how. Part of the
problem is that people whose patience has expired on this official
bilingualism/ duality business because of the enormous costs. are in
direct opposition to the francophone elite who are saying that official
bilingualism actually makes money for the province. (lacking details of
course)
Norman Albert Snr
@Michael G. L. Geraldson Too
busy fighting over the false narratives and agendas of the few to work
on the environment or real prosperity. Let's drive those workers and
consumers of goods out of the province. No one wants to be part of a
family always fighting among themselves.
Norman Albert Snr
@Randy McNally Well , as they
point out, TD would not be here. Wait we paid TD to come here. Frank
knows a handout when he sees one.
Gil Murray
@Michael G. L. Geraldson
Sorry but you are using a very simple statement as a solution to every issue in NB. I don't buy that. How do you fix an economy when young people are leaving and you are left with seniors requiring help? How do you expand competition when you have a single player monopolizing industry? How do you free up wealth for investment when you are taxing at unprecedented rates and those who truly benefit evade the system?
Sorry but you are using a very simple statement as a solution to every issue in NB. I don't buy that. How do you fix an economy when young people are leaving and you are left with seniors requiring help? How do you expand competition when you have a single player monopolizing industry? How do you free up wealth for investment when you are taxing at unprecedented rates and those who truly benefit evade the system?
Dan Armitage
@Gil Murray All true Gil but
we need to Strat don't we? Don't give up the province can move forward
the election has shown we want real and good change.
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr Please enjoy my letter to Franky and Bernie many moons ago
Page 16
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Page 16
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Stephen Long
@Gil Murray Absolutely. The
tories and the libs both use bilingualism as an abstraction to keep us
all fighting among ourselves so they can carry on giving away all our
money to their corporate friends and dipping in their own corrupt hands
into the pot whilst at the same time decimating this province. If
bilingualism wasn't a thing, something else would be.
John Price
@Randy McNally "...in direct
opposition to the francophone elite who are saying that official
bilingualism actually makes money for the province. (lacking details of
course)"
So clearly you have all the details and evidence to prove all the incredible costs of bilingualism and showing how much they outweigh the benefits? I'll wait.
So clearly you have all the details and evidence to prove all the incredible costs of bilingualism and showing how much they outweigh the benefits? I'll wait.
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr What don't
people understand? The province made a tiny contribution as compared
to the millions already invested in the renovation project alone - not
to mention the millions in property tax revenues, the millions of income
tax collected from the 1000 employees, and the millions collected when
these people buy homes, shop at the mall, etc. Pretty simple math if
you ask me.
John Price
@David Amos I would bet no more than 54 people would read this letter - hahaha
Dianne MacPherson
@John Price
Nasty piece of work.....you are !!!!!
Nasty piece of work.....you are !!!!!
Norman Albert Snr
How much are these bias
policies costing the tax payers of NB regardless of language spoken?
Champagne on a beer budget. For over 50 years we have been using this as
a dividing stick but know one will come up with hard facts or the cost
of doing everything twice.
Robert L. Brown
@Norman Albert Snr the dividing stick was brought to us by the liberals more than 50 years ago
Norman Albert Snr
@Robert L. Brown It primary
use now is diversion by division. Let's buy some time and votes with
language and S8888 the rest. "Oh look pandas"
David Amos
@Robert L. Brown YUP
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr So,
magically, you believe all our financial systems will be solved the
moment we have one school system and one healthcare system? Really?
People actually believe this malarkey?
Another part of the magic formula is that we'll magically need 1/2 the hospitals, 1/2 the doctors, teachers, nurses, 1/2 the buses, 1/2 the public service if we could only get rid of all the duplication right?
It would be so funny if only you didn't actually believe this.
Another part of the magic formula is that we'll magically need 1/2 the hospitals, 1/2 the doctors, teachers, nurses, 1/2 the buses, 1/2 the public service if we could only get rid of all the duplication right?
It would be so funny if only you didn't actually believe this.
Dianne MacPherson
@David Amos
There is an 'arrow' for "yup" !!!!
There is an 'arrow' for "yup" !!!!
Edwin Kelley
All parties should be
involved in this discussion. It seems as though close to 50,000 New
Brunswickers are being falsely labeled as bigots and being ignored.
This is why we have the current political situation. The big two parties
have learned nothing from the last election. 8% of the population is
listed as unilingual french and concentrated in a few areas , 30% are
listed as primary french, and 70% listed as primary english yet there
seems to be no compromise for the 30%, it's all or nothing. I haven't
heard of anyone calling for someone's rights to be taken away,which
seems to be fear mongering. Lets ignore the radicals on both sides of
this debate and get on with trying to have a meaningful discussion.
Everyone wants access to "The Best" healthcare and education in whatever
language,duality is not providing that,it's only splitting the
resources of a have not province and threatening lives with things like
sub standard ambulance coverage. Teach conversational french to all
english students and forget the french immersion,it's not working.
Norman Albert Snr
@Edwin Kelley Time for a
regional government not a bilingual government. When your first
qualification to a position is the language you speak the only out come
is division.
I spoke with a Federal employee who said he was the only one in his office who was bilingual and in 5 years had only been called on twice ,as Choice not necessity, to deal with a client. He would have better use for 4 other languages.
I spoke with a Federal employee who said he was the only one in his office who was bilingual and in 5 years had only been called on twice ,as Choice not necessity, to deal with a client. He would have better use for 4 other languages.
Natalie Pugh
@Edwin Kelley Close to 50 000 is just the start and with all that has been happening since September 24 that number is growing.
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Natalie Pugh Methinks the
PANB was not wise to ignore the invite but methinks the other political
parties just embarrassed themselves and October 23rd is still two weeks
away N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Natalie Pugh Methinks you would have enjoyed my reply Hence it was blocked N'esy Pas?
FNorman Albert Snr
@Natalie Pugh Second lowest
showing in NB history because people actually believed the propaganda
that voting for other then the Lib/PC even showing up was a waste og
time. Now they have proof of other possibilities. PA now has political
credibility. Something to stand on beside the two corporate junkies.
John Price
@Edwin Kelley All parties were invited to this discussion (if you read the article), and the PANB didn't come - wonder why?
And judging by the tone of your post, your starting point is basically why do we need to worry about 8% or 30% for that matter - don't they understand we're the majority and we're being ignored? And then you wonder why people think you're anti-French? SMH
And judging by the tone of your post, your starting point is basically why do we need to worry about 8% or 30% for that matter - don't they understand we're the majority and we're being ignored? And then you wonder why people think you're anti-French? SMH
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr So,
basically according to Norman Sr. here, all francophones who are in
government jobs and are bilingual, probably lack all qualifications for
being in said jobs. Again, you wonder why people don't COR ver. 2.0 in
power?
John Price
@Natalie Pugh Haha - yup,
just the start.... I'm sure you'll make lots of inroads in Edmundston,
Tracadie, Bouctouche or St. John for that matter.... Haha.
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr They won 2
seats in the middle of the province where there are a majority of
anglophones who feel left out - and you think that gives them
credibility? SMH
Tim Astle
@John Price I was curious
about them not being involved since they've never turned down an
opportunity before. Apparently they were only contacted through email
and the request was lost in a mess of media inquiries since the
election.
Norman Albert Snr
Two people divide by one
childish and false claim. The tower of Babel comes to mind. Just another
political foot ball to distract us from the real problems.
Saint John has the lowest incomes, highest poverty rate and the highest taxes in Canada and we are focused on language rights. Also the most beneficial corporate and industrial tax policies in the country.
Saint John has the lowest incomes, highest poverty rate and the highest taxes in Canada and we are focused on language rights. Also the most beneficial corporate and industrial tax policies in the country.
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr "Just another political foot ball to distract us from the real problems. "
YUP
YUP
Norman Albert Snr
CBC must be really
disappointed this did not turn out to be a 3 on one tag team against PA.
As I recall they did the same to COR by painting them with the "ONE
POLICY" banner causing them to implode.
Marie Blythe
@Norman Albert Snr The PA is
doing a good job of this by themselves with their lack of openness and
willingness to discuss the issues. As mentioned, the PA was asked to
join this panel and they did not respond.
David Amos
@Norman Albert Snr I am no
fan of Austin and never was However methinks PANB should have stood up
to their opponents and cleared the air in a PUBLIC fashion Trust that
all the political animals know that they would not have to ask me twice
to debate them N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
@Marie Blythe It would have been a gong show with everyone else yelling over each other to drown him out.
On the other hand it would have revealed the true nuts.
On the other hand it would have revealed the true nuts.
Norman Albert Snr
@Marie Blythe everything
Austin might have said would have been repeated out of context and
painted PA as a one issue and bias collection of bigots and anti ????
what ever they could brand it as. better to avoid the gang up mentality
and conflict as to confront the false narratives.
For those of us who believe no other proof is required. For those who do not NONE will do. There is a better way!!!
For those of us who believe no other proof is required. For those who do not NONE will do. There is a better way!!!
Norman Albert Snr
@Marie Blythe If the English
stand up for their rights they are branded BIGOTS or worse, but if the
French demand more of their fair share of the pie they a considered
cultural heroes. No one is giving answers on costs. Costs we cannot
afford. Just answer the D** question and be prepared to justify your
response.
Tim Astle
@Marie Blythe I was curious
about them not being involved since they've never turned down an
opportunity before. Apparently they were only contacted through email
and the request was lost in a mess of media inquiries since the
election.
Marc Martin
@Marie Blythe Exactly...well said
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr The law
says that French and English people are EQUAL under the law. But their
asking for more than their fair share?
See, if people understood that approaching things from "you have too much, I need to take something back from you" is not the way to start a conversation with anyone, about any topic, we might make some progress on issues.
See, if people understood that approaching things from "you have too much, I need to take something back from you" is not the way to start a conversation with anyone, about any topic, we might make some progress on issues.
John Price
@Norman Albert Snr As for
PANB, if the "one policy" label fits, where it proudly... That's all
they've been talking about for 5 years now - you reap what you sow...
Craig O'Donnell
I didn't vote PA for my own
reasons, but I understand there was nothing about ending bilingualism in
their platform. Even the suggestion that bilingual services are not
being delivered in the most efficient and cost effective matter in a
province that simply can't afford waste is taken as an attack on
francophones. Can any of you really and truthfully say there can't be
improvements made? This province is more linguistically divided than
ever. Perhaps it's just time to throw our hands in the air, give up, and
form 2 distinct provinces out of 1 New Brunswick.
Tim Locke
@Craig O'Donnell
Forming two provinces is not the solution.
Forming two provinces is not the solution.
Natalie Pugh
@Tim Locke I would not be an
option because there are too few francophones to be able to sustain
their own and the lifestyle many have acquired. Tax dollar's from ALL
NB citizens is needed to maintain such lifestyles and privilegs.
David Amos
@Craig O'Donnell Methinks it
has always been the liberal party driving a wedge between the folks of
New Brunswick for their political benefit N'esy Pas?
Their words not mine
"D'Amours said bilingualism is a positive for New Brunswick, and misunderstanding of the Official Languages Act should be cleared up through open discussion — something that Cardy said the past Liberal government has avoided."
Their words not mine
"D'Amours said bilingualism is a positive for New Brunswick, and misunderstanding of the Official Languages Act should be cleared up through open discussion — something that Cardy said the past Liberal government has avoided."
Luc Aubé
@Craig O'Donnell Here's an
idea. Just by moving the borders. Use the Renous Highway and Route
126 down to Route 940. The North and East goes to Québec and South and
West go down to Nova Scotia. As for Anglophone from Bathurst and
Miramichi, you can start negotiating with the CAQ. On the way down to
Nova Scotia, you can bring the NB Power and its debt. Anglophone
(CORservative???), you are the one that block that sale to Hydro Quebec.
This would have help the NB and NB Power debts.
Voilà Problem solved.
Voilà Problem solved.
John Price
@Craig O'Donnell As long as
the discussion doesn't start with the thought of having to remove a
right from someone, I'm sure many people (including me) would be
perfectly fine having a discussion on how bilingualism could be
improved.
Luc Aubé
@John Price I agree to not
remove rights. The only way is to ADD a second language which in the
case would be FRENCH. The prime minister Gallant offered you
anglophone FREE courses to do so. That starts with you Mr Higgs and Mr
Austin. Show by examples like Mr Hatfield, Mr McKenna and other well
respected party leaders did. Use this an advantage. It never to late
to learn it.
Marc Martin
@Craig O'Donnell Sure, you can have everything south of Moncton.
Marc Martin
@Luc Aubé well said.
stephen blunston
yup I agree proud to be from
NB and like bilingualism as a rule I do not agree with having to run 2
separate systems for it though this is a big waste taxpayer money. and I
never heard anyplace in election anti bilingualism but a lot about
ending duality running 2 separate systems . if we are all the same and
all together not separated would make this province so much stronger not
more money to help all
David Amos
@stephen blunston I agree
Luc Aubé
@stephen blunston Look a
little bit further than your nose and see WHY we have two separate
systems. Bilingual system means ENGLISH system. The only way that a
bilingual system will work is that you anglophone get out of there silly
excuse and go learn FRENCH. Anglophone need to take French as a plus
like European do.
Look at that, I can converse in English as in French. Kudos to me.
Look at that, I can converse in English as in French. Kudos to me.
Dianne MacPherson
@David Amos
There's an 'arrow' for "I agree" !!!!!
There's an 'arrow' for "I agree" !!!!!
Mario Doucet
Young people are leaving the
province in droves because they don't want to deal with the bilingualism
issue. Equal opportunity no loner exists for the English.
reginald churchill
@Mario Doucet ---very true
David Amos
@reginald churchill YUP
Rosco holt
@Mario Doucet
BS, there's no job opportunity in their field when/ if they've graduated from university or college.
Businesses want people with experience. No one wants to give young people the chance to gain experience, that's why they move. They don't come back when they compare salaries they've made elsewhere and what they would make here.
BS, there's no job opportunity in their field when/ if they've graduated from university or college.
Businesses want people with experience. No one wants to give young people the chance to gain experience, that's why they move. They don't come back when they compare salaries they've made elsewhere and what they would make here.
Shawn McShane
@Rosco holt They don't come
back when they compare salaries they've made elsewhere and what they
would make here. That is true as well but you have to look at the high
property taxes business must pay, the income taxes we all pay and the
residential property taxes.
John Price
@Mario Doucet They're leaving the province because:
a) People are anti-everything (fracking, pipelines, selling NB power, etc.).
b) We have no industry here other than Irvings.
c) There are no jobs.
You don't think French people are leaving the province too for the same reasons as above?
a) People are anti-everything (fracking, pipelines, selling NB power, etc.).
b) We have no industry here other than Irvings.
c) There are no jobs.
You don't think French people are leaving the province too for the same reasons as above?
Marc Martin
@Mario Doucet If the only
ambition of the young English population is to have one of the 2000
provincial public servant job, you have a bigger problem.
Gil Murray
@Marc Martin Did you just say "2000" pps jobs?? Showing your ignorance of the public service again. Keep it up.
Dianne MacPherson
@Gil Murray
And the correct number would be...?????
And the correct number would be...?????
cheryl wright
the only thing that is not
dividing this province in language issues is PANB. cbc loves to run
stories that show them as being anti-francophone, sanb loves to sling
insults and all others wont play with them because of how they are
potrayed not how they are. if you actually listen to mr Austin you would
see that. instead you here the likes of mr melanson and the mayor of
cap pele who just spew hatred and venomous words. I hope the next
election mr Austin wins premiere and then we can truly see what this
province can do when we stand together and not expect extras and special
treatments on both sides
David Amos
@cheryl wright "sanb loves to sling insults"
True
True
David Amos
@David Amos Methinks a lot of folks can recall my war of words with a SANB spindoctor N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449
Marc Martin
@cheryl wright Fact PANB = CoR
reginald churchill
But many Alliance supporters
have formed this "us-versus-them mentality," Cardy said. talk about
putting in someone else's mouth, typical politician . very insulting to
all supporters of the peoples alliances
reginald churchill
@reginald churchill -----please insert ''words'' after ''putting''
David Amos
@reginald churchill Methinks
every political animal in New Brunswick knows that I can tell some very
interesting stories about Mr Cardy and his cohorts N'esy Pas?
Graham McCormack
@reginald churchill I've
talked with Kris Austin and I believe what he says but there are some of
their supporters who are anti-French.
But I would think you would find anti-French and anti-English supporters in all parties.
But I would think you would find anti-French and anti-English supporters in all parties.
Shawn McShane
In other news but not
reported here: Michel Bastarache, the last New Brunswicker to represent
the province on the country’s highest court, said in Ottawa that the
People’s Alliance, now with three seats inside the provincial
legislature is trying to abolish bilingualism. Michel Bastarache called
on the feds not to hire unilingual speakers, even if they’re provided
years of language training after being given a job.
That is your divider hammering home the true wedge in this place and Canada wide.
That is your divider hammering home the true wedge in this place and Canada wide.
reginald churchill
@Shawn McShane ----agreed
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill, I agree;
but with Michel Bastarache. Why should my tax dollars fund their
language training while on the job while others have to do their work
when the success rate has been next to zero?
reginald churchill
@Marguerite Deschamps ------why should my tax dollars fund the sanb
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald churchill, I am
more than willing to fund language training outside the public work
place, such as in the education curriculum or through adult training.
Then when proficient enough in both official languages, they can apply
for jobs designated as bilingual.
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps Really?
So you agree that unilingual French speakers should not be hired and
should be fired after they have the job and are learning English?
Shouldn't it be the best candidate for the job with the best
credentials? Otherwise we have people with the worst
credentials/experience getting the job just because they can speak
French and English. That narrows the IQ pool. You don't get the best
and the brightest you get allooo/bonjour.
reginald churchill
@Marguerite Deschamps ------I know there is a proficiency test for the English to become bilingual is there one for the French
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Shawn McShane FYI Many years ago I spoke to Michel Bastarache personally about his client the Catholic Church.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bastarache-bathurst-insurance-sexual-abuse-1.3349571
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/church-future-sexual-abuse-lawsuits-1.4402875
Now we are butting heads over the RCMP cover up.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-sex-harassment-class-action-1.3937704
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bastarache-bathurst-insurance-sexual-abuse-1.3349571
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/church-future-sexual-abuse-lawsuits-1.4402875
Now we are butting heads over the RCMP cover up.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-sex-harassment-class-action-1.3937704
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill; yes there is!
reginald churchill
@Marguerite Deschamps
-----well it doesn't seem to work very good . sometimes it's very hard
to understand francophones in a bilingual position
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill, totally false. I heard them every day.
Marguerite Deschamps
@reginald Churchill; and they are sure way better than Blaine Higgs and le Crisse d'Austie de COR are in French!
Shawn McShane
@Marguerite Deschamps I
couldn't understand the lady at the Shediac Alcool and she couldn't
understand me. I was looking for Pimms number 1.
I even said Pimms numéro un she seemed mad at me!
I even said Pimms numéro un she seemed mad at me!
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "I am more than willing to fund language training outside the public work place"
Where do you liberals get all the money to write so many cheques?
Where do you liberals get all the money to write so many cheques?
David Amos
@Shawn McShane "In other news but not reported here:"
Whereas my reply was blocked methinks you should merely Google the following and figure out what I was trying to tell you N'esy Pas?
Michel Bastarache David Amos
Whereas my reply was blocked methinks you should merely Google the following and figure out what I was trying to tell you N'esy Pas?
Michel Bastarache David Amos
Natalie Pugh
@reginald churchill Best Answer I've heard since September 24!!
Graham McCormack
@Marguerite Deschamps said "But I have yet to meet a francophone who got a job who was not already bilingual."
Define bilingual.
Define bilingual.
Luc Aubé
@David Amos simple just need
one cheque for one teacher. U de M has classes that can hold 250
person. This is not the point stop finding excuse and go learn french.
David Amos
@Luc Aubé Naw all the
politicians know that I am to busy suing the Crown for being illegally
barred from parliamentary properties for political reasons FYI Everybody
knows the barring notice is in one language only and was never
published in the Royal Gazette.
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane Michael is right about PANB.
David Amos
@Marc Martin We have been waiting for you
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill Why should my tax dollar fund the jazz fesitval in Fredericton?
Marc Martin
@Shawn McShane French is a credential.
Marc Martin
@reginald churchill yes there is.
Gil Murray
@Marguerite Deschamps You,
and another frequent poster here, could not be more mistaken. I was an
HR consultant in one of the largest departments in government and we
only tested anglophones
Jack Forester
Can anything save NB?
Maybe...maybe not, but here is a McLeans article from 2016 that pretty
much nutshells, and sums up what all is wrong here...and it's more than
just language issues. The solutions to the problems we have here are
matters up for debate, but this article (at least to me) is pretty much a
to-do list we all need to work on, or else we are all going down the
drain. Please check it out. https://www.macleans.ca/economy/can-anything-save-new-brunswick/
David Amos
@Jack Forester I said my two
bits worth about what you are concerned about on Rogers TV (The own
Macleans too) last month during this election but CBC failed to report
it as usual
Marguerite Deschamps
Why do you ultra right wing
conservatives and anti-French always denigrate CBS news? It gives you a
free forum in order to spread all your misinformation.
Marguerite Deschamps
Have a good day!
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "Why do you ultra right wing conservatives and anti-French always denigrate CBS news?"
Methinks the Yankees in CBS news don't care about us I have no doubt whatsoever they believe New Brunswick is just another town in New Jersey or Georgia N'esy Pas?
Methinks the Yankees in CBS news don't care about us I have no doubt whatsoever they believe New Brunswick is just another town in New Jersey or Georgia N'esy Pas?
Billy Hachey
@Marguerite Deschamps Hello Pot - meet kettle
David Amos
@Billy Hachey At least the Kettle knows how to read in French N'esy Pas?
The former president of the New Brunswick Acadian Society may end up taking a run at provincial politics after-all.
Earlier this month the New Brunswick Liberal party refused Kevin Arseneau's candidacy for the riding of Kent North.
Since then the Acadie-Nouvelle Reports the Progressive Conservatives, Green Party, and NDP have all requested meetings with the Rogersville Farmer.
Arseneau says dozens of calls have been coming in from those offering him encouragement and funding.
Arseneau expects an announcement concerning his political future will be made in the next few weeks.
(with files from the Acadie-Nouvelle)
David Amos
@Billy Hachey Methinks after
listening to his double talk today nobody should be surprised if Kevin
Arseneau becomes the next Speaker. That way he won't be allowed to talk
politics anymore. The liberals helped the Conservatives do it when they
replaced Bev Harrison with Tanker Malley years ago but it backfired.
Perhaps the Liberal/NDP/Conservative lawyer Lamrock has learned
something since then N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bev-harrison-speaker-new-brunswick-legislature-1.4846333
"So speakers are in a pressure cooker, because they keep their party affiliation but they're technically neutral."
For all the headaches, there are incentives that come along with the post.
An extra $52,614 is added on top of the MLA salary, along with an extra few thousand in allowances. And the speaker can choose to drive a government car".
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/liberal-opposition-aims-to-sink-tanker-1.606614
"The opposition Liberals have introduced a non-confidence motion aimed at firing the Speaker of the New Brunswick legislature.
Malley quit the Tories in February to sit as an Independent, but then rejoined the party two weeks after being named Speaker, and one week after he cast the tie-breaking vote on the government's budget.
Liberal House Leader Kelly Lamrock said Malley's decision to go back to the Progressive Conservatives raises the possibility that the Speaker is trading his tie-breaking vote for government cash.
"When somebody assumes that job [of Speaker] and all the independence, and yes, the salary and the perks that come with it, they're supposed to move beyond the scope of influence. That's how it was supposed to work," Lamrock said."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/bev-harrison-speaker-new-brunswick-legislature-1.4846333
"So speakers are in a pressure cooker, because they keep their party affiliation but they're technically neutral."
For all the headaches, there are incentives that come along with the post.
An extra $52,614 is added on top of the MLA salary, along with an extra few thousand in allowances. And the speaker can choose to drive a government car".
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/liberal-opposition-aims-to-sink-tanker-1.606614
"The opposition Liberals have introduced a non-confidence motion aimed at firing the Speaker of the New Brunswick legislature.
Malley quit the Tories in February to sit as an Independent, but then rejoined the party two weeks after being named Speaker, and one week after he cast the tie-breaking vote on the government's budget.
Liberal House Leader Kelly Lamrock said Malley's decision to go back to the Progressive Conservatives raises the possibility that the Speaker is trading his tie-breaking vote for government cash.
"When somebody assumes that job [of Speaker] and all the independence, and yes, the salary and the perks that come with it, they're supposed to move beyond the scope of influence. That's how it was supposed to work," Lamrock said."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449
Bob Smith
The paramedic issue is one
where common sense needs to apply over language politics. I don't care
whether a person lives in Tracadie, Riverview, or anywhere else..if a
person requires an ambulance for an urgent health matter, he or she
needs that care first, not sympathy afterwards because politicians
demand the paramedics need to be bilingual. We have tech today that can
bridge the language gap..use it and set aside the language wars.
David Amos
@Bob Smith I agree
Marc Martin
@Bob Smith common sense would be to have at least one per ambulance that is bilingual.
David Amos
@Marc Martin How do you Quebecers define common sense?
Marc Martin
@David Amos Assuming im from Quebec because im French...
David Amos
@Marc Martin Nope because you are not familiar with New Brunswick and what you posted earlier about where your kin live.
Marc Martin
@David Amos Your assuming again, i have 6 generation to back me up what about you?
David Amos
@Marc Martin One Forefather
was Daniel Keith (buried in Fundy) was a Kings Ranger in 1776 and Adam
Amos (buried near Amos Point) took on the Crown over taxation and
politicking in 1798
David Amos
@Marc Martin In nutshell around Southern New Brunswick almost everybody knows who I am and nobody has heard of you.
Bob Smith
@Marc Martin Last time I
checked, medication and instruments used to keep a person alive have no
language needed. If a person was counting on emergency care to stay
alive, no one should EVER have the power to say "No, sorry. No bilingual
paramedics on duty right now. Please stay alive until we can get one."
Roland Godin
@Bob Smith
Case closed, I can be served in la langue officielle de mon choix whenever and wherever, on with your headsets...et voilà.
Case closed, I can be served in la langue officielle de mon choix whenever and wherever, on with your headsets...et voilà.
John Price
@Bob Smith Sorry buddy, can't
help you....the app on my phone doesn't seem to be working, sorry.
Sounds like an awesome solution... SMH
John Price
@David Amos Haha, yup, I'm sure everyone knows you with all 54 of your votes! That's just the greatest phrase ever!
John Price
@Bob Smith under the
brilliant plan proposed by all of you, plus the PANB, the phrase would
actually be: "Just a sec, the app on my phone isn't working, I'll figure
out what's wrong with you at some point..."
brenda bryanton
One thing has been made very
clear in the last couple of weeks. The SANB dictates to so called
people's parties in this province. NB is run by a dictatorship of the
few.
To have a petition signed by RED parties votes of the northern areas in NB, to the PC's to "WARN" them not engage in any discussion with the PANB. No one called these fanatics by their true name: Bigots. Yes, that is what they are.
Wow, Pandora's box is wide open and the bigots are overflowing.
To have a petition signed by RED parties votes of the northern areas in NB, to the PC's to "WARN" them not engage in any discussion with the PANB. No one called these fanatics by their true name: Bigots. Yes, that is what they are.
Wow, Pandora's box is wide open and the bigots are overflowing.
David Amos
@brenda bryanton "NB is run by a dictatorship of the few. "
BINGO
BINGO
Marc Martin
@brenda bryanton Dont be so bad about your kind.
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Marc Martin How can you talk of common sense when you don't make sense?
Marc Martin
@David Amos Saying that knows he will never get elected is still trying after 30 years...
Content disabled.
David Amos
@Marc Martin I see CBC is editing my comments for your benefit N'esy Pas?
John Price
One only has to look at the
comment section of any CBC article remotely relating to language, and
see all the COR ver. 2.0 (the new & improved party) supporters
comments to understand why people are not in support of such a party.
Squawk and squawk for 5-6 years about all the ills bilingualism (or new
and improved "duality") is causing, and then be surprised that people
think you're against language rights....how shocking!
David Amos
@John Price Methinks the
liberals used the COR versus PANB in an effort to split the right wing
vote but it backfired bigtime and divided the province on French versus
English lines. The desperate politicians are still blaming the PANB for
the animosity that both the Liberals and the Conservatives provoked and
promoted during the election. Well most folks ain't dumb and they voted
6 other party members to take a seat the house. Now the politicians
are trying to make a deal with the Greens yet have no idea what to do
with the PANB which is causing the electorate to be even more
disgusted. This is all rather obvious byway of the comments that CBC is
allowing to be published N'esy Pas?
John Price
@David Amos If Mr. 54 can't
see this election was a "none of the above" election, I'm not sure what
you're missing. If any party was the least bit smart, they'd replace
their leaders, come up with new platforms and be ready for the next
election...
Allan J Whitney
Just about everybody has a voice activated translation tool in their phone.
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David Amos
David Amos
@Allan J Whitney Shhh thats supposed to be a secret
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David Amos
@David Amos why on earth would CBC block that comment?
John Price
@Allan J Whitney So you'd be
fine with a paramedic, doctors and nurses all French - using apps to try
to communicate with you? I wouldn't.
David Amos
@John Price When was the last time an MLA tried to communicate with you after an election in any language?
Lou Bell
Turning the backs on New
Brunswick's qualified paramedics and attempting to recruit from Quebec
IS a problem , solely because they need to be bilingual !!
Roland Godin
@Lou Bell
Interesting, recruiting from Québec for competencies in les deux langues officielles...eh!/voilà.
Interesting, recruiting from Québec for competencies in les deux langues officielles...eh!/voilà.
Luc Aubé
@Lou Bell Don’t make it an
language issue. I think the problem with Ambulance NB is more a
rentention and a fair compensation and recognition than a language
issue. I think when dealing with a health issue it only fair for the
patient to be served in HIS own language, if I suffer from an heart
issue, I don’t need an paramedic to check if I have a broken ankle.
There’s absolutely need to have some sort of confidence and this can
only be done in the patient language. And this goes for both
languages. This is why the government has a mandate to make certain
that at least one paramedic be bilingual per ambulance trough ALL
province.
Why is this a government and party issue. Isn’t Ambulance NB run by MedaVie / Blue Cross? Go cry to Medavie and not the government.
Why is this a government and party issue. Isn’t Ambulance NB run by MedaVie / Blue Cross? Go cry to Medavie and not the government.
David Amos
@Luc Aubé "Go cry to Medavie and not the government"
Who gave them the contract?
Who gave them the contract?
Lou Bell
Asw an example , when i go in to Service New Brunswick , and the first thing I'm asked is " French or English " and I reply English , why am I spoken to in French when my number is called ? Are all these positions required to be bilingual ? If so , what't the purpose of the 1st person I see? I have no problem with say 5 or 6 English , 2 or 3 French , and a coup;e of bilingual employees, but there is no reason they all need to be bilingual ! In French predominant ares , more French speaking , less English. Not too hard to figure out , BUT SOMEONE doesn't want it that way ! And that's NOT the way it's happening now .
Lou Bell
Methinks there's something a
little more sinister with the Ambulance N.B. problem , and it's not
about which political stripe it is , but maybe a little more culture
leaning what with Bernard Lord running the show . I suspect cost was
not at the top of the list .
@Lou Bell Methinks a wiseguy
once explained that everything is political and its always about the
money so it best just to follow the money N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Same rant over and over; nothing new to read here!
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David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps Methinks its best just to skip over your rants N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/grenier-nb-advance-polls-1.4850648
N.B. Liberals began election day with a head start — then they lost it
Liberals led after 2 days of advance voting before losing key seats on election day
Alex Munter
Another liberal government takes a fall.
Scheer is the next PM even though the guy is invisible, he’s better than what we have now
Scheer is the next PM even though the guy is invisible, he’s better than what we have now
David Amos
@Alex Munter "Scheer is the next PM"
I would not bet the farm on it if I were you.
Methinks Scheer's old buddy Maxime is far from invisible N'esy Pas?
I would not bet the farm on it if I were you.
Methinks Scheer's old buddy Maxime is far from invisible N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-and-francophone-groups-1.4840449
Kris Austin defends himself, as Acadian voices against People's Alliance multiply
Language rights groups suspicious of Austin's 'common sense' approach, but Austin says they misunderstand
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David Amos
Perhaps the liberals will explain this file someday soon
https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER
etc etc etc
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/09/bob-rae-says-minority-rule-is-all-about.html
MLAs urge broader discussion on divisive language issues
Liberals, PC, Green MLAs say bilingualism should be examined but not used to divide province's residents
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A broad but even-handed discussion of bilingualism in New Brunswick is needed to address the persistently divisive topic of language, according to MLAs from three of the four parties represented in the legislative assembly.
The issue bubbled up again during the provincial election campaign with the rise of the People's Alliance, a party that won its first three seats and wants to restructure bilingualism and duality legislation.
That's drawn criticism from other parties and deep concern among New Brunswickers, especially in the francophone community. It's one of the main reasons the Liberals and Progressive Conservatives, two parties clamouring for support to form government, are not interested in dealing with the Alliance.
"It's understandable," said Dominic Cardy, the PC candidate elected in Fredericton West-Hanwell.
But many Alliance supporters have formed this "us-versus-them mentality," Cardy said
The People's Alliance was asked to join the panel but did not send a representative.
Cardy said he encountered frustration on the campaign trail, remembering one man who couldn't get a job in the laundry at the Dr. Everett Chalmers Hospital. He also cited poor French immersion scores and said structural improvements can be made in the system.
J.C. D'Amours, a former MP and now he MLA for Edmundston-Madawaska Centre, said frustration with the system isn't a one-way street, and francophones miss out on jobs because they are unilingual.
"It's happening everywhere," he said.
D'Amours said bilingualism is a positive for New Brunswick, and misunderstanding of the Official Languages Act should be cleared up through open discussion — something that Cardy said the past Liberal government has avoided.
He said many rural New Brunswickers have been abandoned by government, and jobs are scarce in regions in dire need of economic help, but pointing the finger at bilingualism as the culprit "doesn't make sense."
Cardy said an understanding needs to be reached so the province can work in concert to fix the real problem facing New Brunswick: provincial finances.
"We've got to move past this cultural divide to unite the province around a common message from what we want from our government so that we can have these discussions in five, 10, 15 years' time," he said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-blaine-higgs-election-1.4845121
'I have a duty': Brian Gallant won't try for People's Alliance deal
Premier says he's 'not going to work with just anybody' to stay in power
It's
been one week since the New Brunswick election, and the province still
doesn't know what the next government will look like.
But one matter remains pretty clear.
Liberal Premier Brian Gallant, who got fewer seats than the Progressive Conservatives, will not enter into a formal agreement with the People's Alliance, a decision that could throw a wrench into his party winning a confidence vote in the house.
"I have a duty and a responsibility, in my opinion, to see if I can gain the confidence of the house by also ensuring we're respecting our fundamental values."
Premier Brian Gallant and PC Leader Blaine Higgs have been wrangling over who will govern New Brunswick since the PCs won 22 seats to the Liberals' 21 last Monday in a legislature that requires 25 for a majority.
But one matter remains pretty clear.
Liberal Premier Brian Gallant, who got fewer seats than the Progressive Conservatives, will not enter into a formal agreement with the People's Alliance, a decision that could throw a wrench into his party winning a confidence vote in the house.
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"I have a duty and a responsibility, in my opinion, to see if I can gain the confidence of the house by also ensuring we're respecting our fundamental values."
Premier Brian Gallant and PC Leader Blaine Higgs have been wrangling over who will govern New Brunswick since the PCs won 22 seats to the Liberals' 21 last Monday in a legislature that requires 25 for a majority.
Information Morning - Fredericton
Premier Brian Gallant
Host Terry Seguin speaks with Premier Brian Gallant about his quest to continue to govern the province in a minority situtation. 17:00
Gallant is going after the Green Party for support, and the People's Alliance has said it would support the PCs on a bill-by-bill basis if PC Leader Blaine Higgs is given the chance to govern. Higgs has said he doesn't want to make deals with any party if he eventually becomes premier.
Gallant described Monday's election as a "rude awakening" for the PCs and Liberals, and voters sent a message to government that it has to consider different perspectives and do a better job at listening to the challenges families are facing across the province.
"If winning an election means that you have somebody who is going to form government, no one did," Gallant said during an interview with Information Morning Fredericton.
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People's Alliance partnership a no go
During the election, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin called for a merger of francophone and anglophone health authorities, an end to language duality in school busing, and the elimination of the official languages commissioner.
CBC News
Brian Gallant on party alliances and forming government
Brian Gallant says he
doubts the alleged deal between the Progressive Conservatives and
People's Alliance has the support of the Conservative caucus, and says
his party will not compromise on principles to stay in power. 0:49
Gallant suggested the Liberals could respond to some of the concerns of Alliance supporters without sacrificing Liberal principles.
"People voted for them because they and their families face challenges," Gallant said. "We should not be distracted by our disagreement on what has caused those challenges.
"We should focus on helping the families that are struggling to get ahead to overcome the very real challenges before them."
Going green
By process of elimination, Gallant said, the Liberals are willing to work with the Green Party in a more formal way because the two parties have more in common. Gallant said he feels the Greens feel the same way about Liberals, who can probably come up with a program that is "progressive."
Green Party Leader David Coon has spoken with both Higgs and Gallant to discuss the election results and plans to meet with both party leaders this week.
Meanwhile, the legislature is expected to open on Oct. 23 at the latest, and the Liberals will find out of they have received the confidence of the house.
CBC News
No party has a majority. So what happens next?
New Brunswickers have elected the first legislature since 1920 where no party has a majority. What happens next?! 2:14
New Brunswick hasn't had a minority government since the 1920s, but Gallant suggested New Brunswickers could take solace in the fact challenging configurations in the legislature have occurred in other parts of the country, and the party with the most seats hasn't always been the one to govern.
After the most recent B.C. election, the Greens took their three seats and sided with the NDP in order to have a one-seat advantage over the Liberals.
"I think I have a responsibility to try and keep a progressive government here in the province, and if that's not the case I will certainly accept that," Gallant said.
With files from Information Morning Fredericton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/francophones-election-people-s-alliance-1.4838221
Francophones concerned about rise in People's Alliance support
'It doesn't feel like New Brunswick. It doesn't feel like Canada at all'
Some francophone New Brunswickers are feeling uneasy about the provincial election results.
Three candidates from the People's Alliance of New Brunswick party have been elected — in Fredericton-Grand Lake, Fredericton-York and Miramichi.
The People's Alliance is in favour of things like ending duality for school busing, loosening bilingual requirements for paramedics, and eliminating the office of the commissioner of official languages.
Some say the increase in support for the party represents a rise in anti-French sentiment.
He said he was made to feel like an unwelcome stranger during a recent trip to the provincial capital.
"I've been to Fredericton last week," Cyr said.
"I've been to Winners to shop for my clothes. And I was just talking to one of my friends. And an old lady came to me and touched my elbows and she said, 'Hey, here we speak only English. We don't speak French.' I was like, 'Wow, OK.'
"I don't know. I don't know where we're going ... I don't know at all.
"It's not like home. It doesn't feel like New Brunswick. It doesn't feel like Canada at all."
The
newly elected People's Alliance MLA for Miramichi, Michelle Conroy,
said her party wants to bring bilingualism 'back to where it's meant to
be.' (Radio-Canada)
Chantal Martin of Edmundston said she worries the province is becoming increasingly divided along language lines.
Virtually all of the predominantly francophone ridings voted Liberal or Green, while predominantly anglophone ridings voted Tory or People's Alliance.
"It sure feels like the French voted for a Liberal government and the English the opposite. And it's a little bit frightening because we are afraid that if the Conservative government makes an alliance with the Alliance party, well, it's not going to be good for the French people," said Martin.
The newly elected People's Alliance MLA for Miramichi, Michelle Conroy, said her party is not against any culture but suggested language rights have gone too far.
"It's about bringing bilingualism back to where it's meant to be and where we started to. It's meant to be as a bilingual province."
"Official bilingualism was the consolation prize during the high tension of the late '60s," said Ali Chiasson, the group's executive director.
"It's a social contract, and this has the musings of going back to a very grey time … you can only stretch the social fabric so much … sometime it tears," he said.
Three candidates from the People's Alliance of New Brunswick party have been elected — in Fredericton-Grand Lake, Fredericton-York and Miramichi.
The People's Alliance is in favour of things like ending duality for school busing, loosening bilingual requirements for paramedics, and eliminating the office of the commissioner of official languages.
Some say the increase in support for the party represents a rise in anti-French sentiment.
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He said he was made to feel like an unwelcome stranger during a recent trip to the provincial capital.
"I've been to Fredericton last week," Cyr said.
"I've been to Winners to shop for my clothes. And I was just talking to one of my friends. And an old lady came to me and touched my elbows and she said, 'Hey, here we speak only English. We don't speak French.' I was like, 'Wow, OK.'
"I don't know. I don't know where we're going ... I don't know at all.
"It's not like home. It doesn't feel like New Brunswick. It doesn't feel like Canada at all."
Virtually all of the predominantly francophone ridings voted Liberal or Green, while predominantly anglophone ridings voted Tory or People's Alliance.
"It sure feels like the French voted for a Liberal government and the English the opposite. And it's a little bit frightening because we are afraid that if the Conservative government makes an alliance with the Alliance party, well, it's not going to be good for the French people," said Martin.
The newly elected People's Alliance MLA for Miramichi, Michelle Conroy, said her party is not against any culture but suggested language rights have gone too far.
"It's about bringing bilingualism back to where it's meant to be and where we started to. It's meant to be as a bilingual province."
You can only stretch the social fabric so much ... sometime it tears.- Ali Chiasson , executive director, Acadian Society of New BrunswickThe prospect of any reduction in French-language services is unacceptable to the Acadian Society of New Brunswick.
"Official bilingualism was the consolation prize during the high tension of the late '60s," said Ali Chiasson, the group's executive director.
"It's a social contract, and this has the musings of going back to a very grey time … you can only stretch the social fabric so much … sometime it tears," he said.
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N.B. Liberals began election day with a head start — then they lost it
Liberals led after 2 days of advance voting before losing key seats on election day
Brian Gallant's Liberals started
election day with a head start when New Brunswickers headed to the polls
on Sept. 24. His party had won the most votes and was leading in the
most seats after two days of advance voting had completed.
But by the end of election day, inroads made by the Greens — and to a lesser extent the People's Alliance and New Democrats — turned his two-seat edge into a one-seat deficit.
According
to data published by Elections New Brunswick and analyzed by CBC News,
the Liberals took 41.1 per cent of ballots cast in the advance voting
that occurred on Sept. 15 and 17, compared with 33.4 per cent for the
Progressive Conservatives under Blaine Higgs, 11.1 per cent for the
People's Alliance, 9.6 per cent for the Greens and 4.2 per cent for the
New Democrats.
This translated into the Liberals ending the two days of advance voting with a lead in 24 seats, one short of the 25 needed to form a majority government. The PCs led in 22 seats, the People's Alliance in two and the Greens in just one — that of leader David Coon.
The Liberals also won the most votes cast on election day, but their share of that vote fell by 4.3 points to 36.8 per cent. The PCs took 31.5 per cent of the votes cast on Sept. 24, representing a drop of 1.9 points.
The three smaller parties all took more of the votes cast on election day than they did in the advance polls, with Kris Austin's People's Alliance taking 13 per cent, the Greens 12.6 per cent and the New Democrats 5.3 per cent.
Both
the People's Alliance and the NDP saw modest increases in their popular
vote share — 1.9 and 1.1 points, respectively. The Greens, however,
jumped three points.
That made the difference in Memramcook-Tantramar and Kent North. The Greens trailed the Liberals in both ridings in the advance voting, but won enough of the vote on election day to move ahead and win the seats.
The Liberals also lost Riverview and Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton to the PCs on Sept. 24, after starting the day with the lead.
Saint John-Harbour, however, flipped from the PCs to the Liberals on election day.
Strong results in the advance voting saved the PCs in two ridings — Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou and in Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin. The Liberals won more votes in the former and the People's Alliance in the latter on election day, but the lead the PCs built in the advance voting was wide enough to keep them ahead when the counting was over.
Those victories ensured that Higgs came out of the night with one more seat than Gallant.
That wasn't the case in Fredericton-York, however. The People's Alliance won enough votes on election day to erase the lead the PCs had there in the advance polls.
A number of factors could have contributed to the shift in the results between the advance polls and election day.
Parties put a lot of effort into getting their supporters to cast their ballots early in order to lock those votes in. The Liberals and PCs would have had more resources to do that than either the People's Alliance or Greens.
Public opinion polls also suggested that the two smaller parties had made significant gains in support over the last week of the campaign, while the Liberals and PCs fell back.
And voters who were on the fence between the older parties and the two upstarts might have been waiting until election day to finally make up their mind.
Some of the trends between the advance polls and election day voting were the same as in 2014's provincial election.
The Liberals won 46.5 per cent of the vote in the advance polls that year before their vote dropped to 41.9 per cent on election day. The Greens increased their vote share by 2.7 points to 7.1 per cent on election day in 2014, while the New Democrats increased theirs by 1.6 points to 13.3 per cent.
But the PCs and People's Alliance went in different directions on election day in 2014. The PCs saw their support increase by 0.5 percentage points to 34.7 per cent, while the People's Alliance vote fell by 0.3 points to 2.1 per cent.
This means the voting patterns identified in 2018 were in some degree unique to this campaign.
And with such a close result, those patterns suggest the last days of the campaign might have made all the difference.
But by the end of election day, inroads made by the Greens — and to a lesser extent the People's Alliance and New Democrats — turned his two-seat edge into a one-seat deficit.
This translated into the Liberals ending the two days of advance voting with a lead in 24 seats, one short of the 25 needed to form a majority government. The PCs led in 22 seats, the People's Alliance in two and the Greens in just one — that of leader David Coon.
The Liberals also won the most votes cast on election day, but their share of that vote fell by 4.3 points to 36.8 per cent. The PCs took 31.5 per cent of the votes cast on Sept. 24, representing a drop of 1.9 points.
The three smaller parties all took more of the votes cast on election day than they did in the advance polls, with Kris Austin's People's Alliance taking 13 per cent, the Greens 12.6 per cent and the New Democrats 5.3 per cent.
That made the difference in Memramcook-Tantramar and Kent North. The Greens trailed the Liberals in both ridings in the advance voting, but won enough of the vote on election day to move ahead and win the seats.
The Liberals also lost Riverview and Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton to the PCs on Sept. 24, after starting the day with the lead.
Saint John-Harbour, however, flipped from the PCs to the Liberals on election day.
Strong results in the advance voting saved the PCs in two ridings — Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou and in Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin. The Liberals won more votes in the former and the People's Alliance in the latter on election day, but the lead the PCs built in the advance voting was wide enough to keep them ahead when the counting was over.
Those victories ensured that Higgs came out of the night with one more seat than Gallant.
How it may have happened
That wasn't the case in Fredericton-York, however. The People's Alliance won enough votes on election day to erase the lead the PCs had there in the advance polls.
A number of factors could have contributed to the shift in the results between the advance polls and election day.
Parties put a lot of effort into getting their supporters to cast their ballots early in order to lock those votes in. The Liberals and PCs would have had more resources to do that than either the People's Alliance or Greens.
Public opinion polls also suggested that the two smaller parties had made significant gains in support over the last week of the campaign, while the Liberals and PCs fell back.
And voters who were on the fence between the older parties and the two upstarts might have been waiting until election day to finally make up their mind.
Different pattern than in 2014
Some of the trends between the advance polls and election day voting were the same as in 2014's provincial election.
The Liberals won 46.5 per cent of the vote in the advance polls that year before their vote dropped to 41.9 per cent on election day. The Greens increased their vote share by 2.7 points to 7.1 per cent on election day in 2014, while the New Democrats increased theirs by 1.6 points to 13.3 per cent.
But the PCs and People's Alliance went in different directions on election day in 2014. The PCs saw their support increase by 0.5 percentage points to 34.7 per cent, while the People's Alliance vote fell by 0.3 points to 2.1 per cent.
This means the voting patterns identified in 2018 were in some degree unique to this campaign.
And with such a close result, those patterns suggest the last days of the campaign might have made all the difference.
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After years on the fringe, People's Alliance ready to take next step
The party is polling at new heights, but its positions are not without controversy
Kris Austin and his upstart People's Alliance party may be having their moment.
The party, which has never managed to elect a single MLA since Austin founded it in 2010, appears to have its best chance yet for a breakthrough in the current provincial election campaign.
It's ticking up in polling, and Austin got good reviews Wednesday at a service club meeting of 90 retired men from the Fredericton area.
"I'm not in his riding, but we could do a lot worse than having people like him in there. He should be a good representative for wherever he's running."
Popularity rise
Austin is on the ballot in Fredericton-Grand Lake, a riding he came within 26 votes of winning in the 2014 election. He created the People's Alliance in 2010 after failing to win the Progressive Conservative nomination in the former riding of Grand Lake-Gagetown.
His message is a mixture of economic conservatism, rural populism and opposition to some aspects of official bilingualism and language duality.
That would be a huge improvement from its 2.1 per cent of the vote in 2014. The party had just 1.2 per cent four years before that.
"It is poised to make some gains, at least in the popular vote," said CBC poll analyst Eric Grenier. "The question is whether they can win a seat."
Austin said he senses an opportunity for his party.
"Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I think we're at the tipping point where people are getting the reality that the Liberal and Conservative parties govern the same way," Austin told CBC News.
"That opens the door wide to a third option, and we're hearing more and more people are opening up to that third option."
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Stance on bilingualism
Austin spoke to the men-only Fredericton Golden Club for about 30 minutes Wednesday morning, explaining Alliance policies on senior care, nursing homes and what he calls "the current way bilingualism is implemented in New Brunswick."
He said he supports the delivery of government services in both English and French, but said the law needs to be applied with "common sense."
He repeated his proposal that Ambulance New Brunswick, which has faced a shortage of bilingual paramedics, should be allowed to use a special translation phone system in areas of the province where there isn't as much demand.
Don Stevenson, a Fredericton resident who grew up in Edmundston, said he believes "very, very strongly" in official bilingualism but agrees with Austin that "there have to be some practical limitations on the application of the principle."
Misleading positions
Austin didn't mention some of his other positions, such as merging the province's two health authorities and eliminating the position of commissioner of official languages. And some of his other statements on the language issue were misleading or incomplete.He said a labour arbitrator had come to the same conclusions he had about Ambulance New Brunswick using a translation phone line in some areas of the province.
What he didn't mention is that the province is challenging the arbitration decision in court because it's at odds with court rulings on how Ambulance New Brunswick must provide bilingual service.
In fact, the Liberal government abandoned a court case on dual buses in 2016 and said district education councils could decide for themselves whether to share buses. District officials said at the time that would not be as simple as it sounded.
But in the absence of those details, many of the Golden Club members suggested Austin might get their vote if he were their local candidate.
"The policies that he put forth are something that I would certainly agree with," said Alan McFadden, who lives in New Maryland-Sunbury.
"I'm not in his riding, so I guess it wouldn't make much difference as far as my vote."
McFadden said he's "sort of on the fence right at the moment" about whether to vote for the local Alliance candidate or Progressive Conservative incumbent Jeff Carr.
Austin said that's the challenge he has to confront between now and Sept. 24.
"I've always said if we can win the people over with the party message, then the second part of that is winning the people over with the local candidate," he said.
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Matt Steele
It is 2018 folks , and
electronic translation services are being used world wide . Lets get
with the times and start using translation technology like every other
province does . Bilingualism is no longer needed to provide govt.
services ; technology will do it for us .
Bernard McIntyre
@Matt Steele. I agree 100%. There are . more than 2 languages being spoken in this Province
Rosco holt
@Matt Steele
I've seen allot of translated documents and allot of them didn't convey the same message after translation. Your idea is flawed.
I've seen allot of translated documents and allot of them didn't convey the same message after translation. Your idea is flawed.
Jeff LeBlanc
French is a choice, not a
necessity. And if for you it is a necessity I feel sorry for you for
being stuck in your bubble. It's a big world, go out and expand your
horizons. It's 2018 after all.
Rosella Melanson
@Jeff LeBlanc Parlant de l'expérience du monde que je connais et moi itou, l'anglais n'est pas un choix. C'est imposé.
Sirius Brown
@Jeff LeBlanc - It is not
really a choice for communities and people who only speak only French in
their daily lives. The French peoples of New Brunswick have a
protected status within our constitution. Instead of finding ways to
deprive them of their constitutional rights, perhaps we can work with
them to preserve where we can and maybe they would be willing to work
with us on areas where duality makes little sense. We are trying to
argue a point that was lost years ago. Let's move on to a more
productive discussion instead of wasting our time and energy rearguing
lost arguments.
Philippe Theriault
@Jeff LeBlanc
Your statement is rich. Firstly, it is a big world - you should heed your own advice and expand your horizons (since it's 2018 and all). Have you ever travelled to a non-English speaking country?? FYI Canada is a bilingual country - sort of like Switzerland where they have 4 official languages - here (as with Switzerland) French is not a "choice" as you state - it's a "right".
Your statement is rich. Firstly, it is a big world - you should heed your own advice and expand your horizons (since it's 2018 and all). Have you ever travelled to a non-English speaking country?? FYI Canada is a bilingual country - sort of like Switzerland where they have 4 official languages - here (as with Switzerland) French is not a "choice" as you state - it's a "right".
Billy Hachey
@Philippe Theriault I didn't
realize this article was about an election for the country or
Switzerland? thought it was about New Brunswick where the taxed to death
residents with a huge debt are sick of paying for a failed experiment,
but then again you live and vote here right? Or just cruise CBC articles
defending a language from the center of the universe.....
Jeff LeBlanc
@Rosella Melanson this is an English website Rosella. We live in North America, speak the language.
Jeff LeBlanc
@Sirius Brown the french
peoples should not have protected status as per the constitution, that
is what I am trying to say. If a language needs protection so bad ask
yourself why. It's because less and less people speak it because it's
just not that important of a language in the global scheme of things .
it's something like the 19th most spoken language in the world, maybe
lower I forget. Time to get a politician who has the stones to rip up
that piece of paper and tell the vocal minority that enough is enough.
This is North America, we speak English, deal with it or get left
behind.
Jeff LeBlanc
@Philippe Theriault French
is only a "right" because the government says so. In reality the
government should have zero business legislating language, you wanna
learn french, do so on your own. Same for Chinese or Arabic or Russian
or any language. And yes I have travelled all over north and central
america, has zero to do with the fact our government caters to vocal
minorities time and time again. This is North America, learn the
language already!
Jeff LeBlanc
@Philippe Theriault we are not a bilingual country
Sirius Brown
@Jeff LeBlanc - Regardless of how you feel on the matter, they do have a constitutional
right. There is very little a provincial Premiere can do to change the
status quo. If they do try and infringe on the linguistic rights of the
French peoples, they will have to make a legal case, one that is
legally defensible in the courts. Where all past attempts have failed.
As such, I ask, why reargue the same old arguments? it is virtually
guaranteed the attempt will fail. It is far better to accept reality
and work with the system.
Jeff LeBlanc
@Sirius Brown...the problem
is the vocal minority of Francophones have shown time and time again
they are not willing to work with us to find sensible solutions. I say
"us" because even though I am Acadian, I do not consider myself part of
the problem. The problem being those who want their French and want it
at all costs, regardless of what the majority thinks. There are way too
many people in NB who feel that way and until we change that mindset
this province will continue to spin it's wheels and be a little have not
place.
Evelyn Gaudreau
@Jeff LeBlanc I really don't think the constitution of this country will be changed to match your preferences. Get real!
Evelyn Gaudreau
@Jeff LeBlanc this is the equivalent of "speak white", a bit xenophobic perhaps.
Evelyn Gaudreau
@Jeff LeBlanc been a long time you read a paper?
Ron Nowlan
@Jeff LeBlanc Very accurate observation. I speak both because I chose to, NOT because I had to.
Ron Nowlan
@Ron Nowlan I like your non
violent comments Jeff. As for other's comment-I do not read newspapers
that are owned by big corporations! I use my own judgemental powers.
Ron Nowlan
@Jeff LeBlanc Another great
comment Jeff! I am half Acadian and I wonder if people who fail to
understand the cost to taxpayers would try to force their English
speaking doctors to speak French?
Its tough enough to get doctors to come to NB without adding yet another "screen" to eliminate some from wanting to practice here.
Its tough enough to get doctors to come to NB without adding yet another "screen" to eliminate some from wanting to practice here.
Jason Inness
If we keep voting the same
way, we will keep getting the same results. Just look at promises that
have been made so far. You would swear that we had no provincial debt
and a huge surplus.
Time to vote for something new. Vote People's Alliance.
Time to vote for something new. Vote People's Alliance.
stephen blunston
well I do agree with not
running to separate systems for everything, can still be bilingual and
not run separate systems and maybe with both languages being together
more people will become fluent in it and the saving of not running dual
systems would be large as well
Jason Inness
Not sure what a "French"
riding is, but the People's Alliance is running candidates in every
region, and in enough ridings to form a government (and they are not
done yet).
The People's Alliance has plenty of common sense solutions. Check them out for yourself...
www.peoplesalliance.ca
The People's Alliance has plenty of common sense solutions. Check them out for yourself...
www.peoplesalliance.ca
Cam Randal
Listening to the leaders of
the two main parties and their outrageous promises should encourage a
few people to vote for the PA or Green Party, but most likely not
enough votes to elect MLAs. Hopefully, David **** can hang on to his
riding and Kris Austin can win his. At least there would be two MLAs
from the non-traditional parties.
Marc Martin
I guess PANB will gather the vote CoR did a few years ago then dies out in a few years.
John Haigh
@Marc Martin What a well crafted comment. No Google Translate for you!
Marc Martin
@John Haigh
Je peut écrire en francais si tu veut et tu pourrais utiliser ton Google :)
Je peut écrire en francais si tu veut et tu pourrais utiliser ton Google :)
Marc Martin
@John Haigh
You see John you are giving a good reason why we need to keep the bilingual Services across NB.
You see John you are giving a good reason why we need to keep the bilingual Services across NB.
Al Bekirkey
@Marc Martin do you care what accent they use or is that protected as well
Archie Levesque
@Marc Martin This is part of the issue.
This site is bi-lingual. The french CBC site is uni-lingual.
This site is bi-lingual. The french CBC site is uni-lingual.
Bernard McIntyre
@Marc Martin. Bilingual services not dual servicses.
Al Bekirkey
@Marc Martin @Marc Martin
@Marc écrivez-le en chinois si vous voulez, siri peut egalement répondre
à l'accent et langue de votre choix
Al Bekirkey
@Marc Martin written is way easier to translate then spoken if using computer aids
Philippe Theriault
@Archie Levesque how is this site bilingual??
Jeff LeBlanc
@Philippe Theriault it isn't its ENGLISH
Lou Bell
Much of the bilingual demands for government employees is solely about jobs , NOT SERVICES ! At many Service New Brunswick customers are greeted by a bilingual person , given a number , and serviced by an employee when their number is called . Therefore , every employee DOESN'T need to be bilingual. If 30 % of their customers request service in French , they need 30 % bilingual employees. Same with calls received by phone . Too much of trying to come up with " alternate facts " as to reason why most jobs should be bilingual .
John Jones
Fairly easy to win over
ninety retried anglophone males with their platform. It is a new world
out there and the Alliance party has no hope of electing more than one
candidate.
Samual Johnston
just sucks that this party
might give the liberals the push over the top..... it happened to the
liberals when the Conservatives got in.....the votes that went green
did the liberals in - but I guess this is democracy in action. --
another few decades and there might be a change
Aaron Allison
A house divided can not
Stand, The Liberals and PANB are keeping the house DIVIDED. How many
French ridings are PANB running in????
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pc-party-people-s-alliance-explain-candidates-social-media-posts-1.4776783
PC party calls on People's Alliance leader to explain candidates' social media posts
Kris Austin has distanced himself from some of the posts and comments
The
Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick's leader, Blaine Higgs,
says the leader of the People's Alliance party needs to explain
comments made by some Alliance candidates on social media.
Higgs says he'd like to hear from Kris Austin on posts dealing with issues such as bilingualism and gay pride—posts that have attracted criticism online in the weeks leading up to the provincial election campaign.
"If candidates are running that have made statements that are, let's say, of concern to people, there'd be an obligation for him to explain it, and an obligation from the candidates themselves to explain it," Higgs said in an interview.
"If
something surfaces and this is a current candidate we're talking about,
I don't think you can ignore that. I don't think you can walk away from
that. I think you have to address it. Has the attitude changed? Has the
opinion changed?"
While he's distancing himself from some of the comments, Austin says he can't be expected to check every past statement his candidates have made on social media.
"It would be impossible to go through every Facebook account back two or three years to find out what everybody said at that point," he said.
The spat between the two leaders comes weeks before an election campaign in which a strong Alliance vote could jeopardize the PC party's chances of defeating the Liberal government of Premier Brian Gallant.
In the last election, the combination of the PC and Alliance vote would have been enough to prevent Liberal victories in three ridings and give the Tories a narrow majority government.
Kelly Lamrock, who is advising the PC party, posted a series of tweets last month demanding Austin explain whether comments by Alliance candidates represent party policy.
"Kris says 'oh no, I don't mean that,' but he never quite tells you what he thinks of his candidates, and it struck me as unfair," Lamrock said. "It bothered me."
One
candidate, Paul Seelye in Saint John Lancaster, said on Facebook last
year that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau "stands in gay parades while the
Bible is pushed aside." He also reposted criticisms of official
bilingualism.
Another Alliance candidate, Terry Collette in Miramichi Bay-Neguac, has posted conspiracy theories about 9/11, Atlantis, and a supposed cover-up of life on Mars. He has also shared material claiming that Israel controls the terrorist group ISIS.
People's
Alliance candidate, Terry Collette in Miramichi Bay-Neguac, has posted
conspiracy theories about 9/11, Atlantis, and a supposed cover-up of
life on Mars. (CBC)
A member of the Alliance board, Claire Dykeman,
asked on Facebook last year whether the Liberals were"hoping to get rid
of more English" when they decided to cover Mifegymiso, the so-called
"abortion pill," under Medicare.
Austin called that statement "completely unacceptable. It doesn't reflect the party's policies or issues. To me it's just a ridiculous statement."
But on the comments by candidates, Austin said Lamrock and other critics are "fishing for something.
Do we go to every candidate last year, two years ago, to see what everybody posted at that time? I'm not sure what to respond to that."
On Seelye's comments, Austin said some Alliance candidates were planning to take part in gay pride events this summer.
He also repeated his long-standing position that the Alliance would not repeal the Official Languages Act but might "amend" it.
Austin said Higgs himself, who was involved with the Confederation of Regions party more than 30 years ago, probably made "crazy statements" at the time.
The scrutiny for the Alliance comes as Austin pushes for a breakthrough in this year's election. He came within 26 votes of winning the riding of Fredericton-Grand Lake, losing to PC Pam Lynch.
Austin has been pushing the message that electing one or more Alliance MLAs could give the party the balance of power if no one wins a majority on Sept. 24.
Lamrock says that puts even more onus on Austin to be clear about whether candidates are speaking for the party or themselves.
Austin said the pressure is a sign that the Tories are worried they're losing support to the Alliance.
"There's an obvious connection there," he said. "We're gaining steam, we're gaining momentum. Two or three years ago, the PCs and the Liberals didn't have any concern with us, and now all of a sudden we're enemy number one."
Kelly
Lamrock, a PC Party adviser, has been posting tweets demanding Austin
explain whether comments by Alliance candidates represent party policy. (CBC)
Austin said the party's positions on key issues will be laid out in detail in its election platform.
"The platform we put out will be balanced," Austin added. "It'll be a common-sense balanced way to govern. Some people have more extreme views than us but it's not what we're saying as a party."
Higgs says he'd like to hear from Kris Austin on posts dealing with issues such as bilingualism and gay pride—posts that have attracted criticism online in the weeks leading up to the provincial election campaign.
"If candidates are running that have made statements that are, let's say, of concern to people, there'd be an obligation for him to explain it, and an obligation from the candidates themselves to explain it," Higgs said in an interview.
While he's distancing himself from some of the comments, Austin says he can't be expected to check every past statement his candidates have made on social media.
"It would be impossible to go through every Facebook account back two or three years to find out what everybody said at that point," he said.
The spat between the two leaders comes weeks before an election campaign in which a strong Alliance vote could jeopardize the PC party's chances of defeating the Liberal government of Premier Brian Gallant.
In the last election, the combination of the PC and Alliance vote would have been enough to prevent Liberal victories in three ridings and give the Tories a narrow majority government.
Tweets demand answers
Kelly Lamrock, who is advising the PC party, posted a series of tweets last month demanding Austin explain whether comments by Alliance candidates represent party policy.
"Kris says 'oh no, I don't mean that,' but he never quite tells you what he thinks of his candidates, and it struck me as unfair," Lamrock said. "It bothered me."
People's
Alliance candidate Paul Seelye in Saint John Lancaster, said on
Facebook last year that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau “stands in gay
parades while the Bible is pushed aside.” He also reposted criticisms of
official bilingualism. (CBC)Lamrock said some of
the posts came to his attention via an anonymous Twitter account, "PANB
Watch," which posts screen images of the Facebook posts.
Another Alliance candidate, Terry Collette in Miramichi Bay-Neguac, has posted conspiracy theories about 9/11, Atlantis, and a supposed cover-up of life on Mars. He has also shared material claiming that Israel controls the terrorist group ISIS.
Collette could not be reached
for comment Tuesday, but Seelye told CBC News he has "nothing against
gays. Their lifestyle is their lifestyle." He said he objects to gay
pride participants being "so scantily clad. What does that have to do
with being gay?"
Austin called that statement "completely unacceptable. It doesn't reflect the party's policies or issues. To me it's just a ridiculous statement."
Austin not sure how to respond
But on the comments by candidates, Austin said Lamrock and other critics are "fishing for something.
Do we go to every candidate last year, two years ago, to see what everybody posted at that time? I'm not sure what to respond to that."
On Seelye's comments, Austin said some Alliance candidates were planning to take part in gay pride events this summer.
He also repeated his long-standing position that the Alliance would not repeal the Official Languages Act but might "amend" it.
Austin said Higgs himself, who was involved with the Confederation of Regions party more than 30 years ago, probably made "crazy statements" at the time.
The scrutiny for the Alliance comes as Austin pushes for a breakthrough in this year's election. He came within 26 votes of winning the riding of Fredericton-Grand Lake, losing to PC Pam Lynch.
Austin has been pushing the message that electing one or more Alliance MLAs could give the party the balance of power if no one wins a majority on Sept. 24.
Lamrock says that puts even more onus on Austin to be clear about whether candidates are speaking for the party or themselves.
Tories worried, claims Austin
Austin said the pressure is a sign that the Tories are worried they're losing support to the Alliance.
"There's an obvious connection there," he said. "We're gaining steam, we're gaining momentum. Two or three years ago, the PCs and the Liberals didn't have any concern with us, and now all of a sudden we're enemy number one."
Lamrock
said he doesn't know who's running the anonymous "PANB Watch" Twitter
account that is digging up old Facebook posts by Alliance candidates,
but he said it's "probably a PC supporter somewhere."
"The platform we put out will be balanced," Austin added. "It'll be a common-sense balanced way to govern. Some people have more extreme views than us but it's not what we're saying as a party."
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/people-s-alliance-defeat-liberals-miramichi-1.4837492
People's Alliance avoids spotlight as Austin discusses strategy
Two of three newly elected Alliance MLAs refused interviews Tuesday
The
People's Alliance have gone quiet in order to regroup and figure out
what to do with their newfound power after winning three seats in
Monday's provincial election.
Michelle Conroy, the MLA-elect for the Miramichi riding spoke to CBC and Radio-Canada on Monday morning after party leader Kris Austin began refusing interviews and before Austin asked his other newly-elected MLA, Rick DeSaulniers of Fredericton-York, not to talk to media.
"We have to meet," DeSaulniers said after refusing an interview. He said the party will meet sometime this week.
Conroy said she can't offer any predictions about what deals the party will make and with whom, but she said it may be more difficult to work with the Liberal and Green parties.
"We hear that the Greens and the Liberals are not willing to work with us, so we feel the voice of the people and what they want and they're looking for some change and we're hoping to work as a team," she said.
On Tuesday, Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau gave Premier Brian Gallant permission to continue governing, and the Liberals have until the end of the year to try to win the confidence of the legislature by gaining the majority of the house.
The majority threshold is 25 seats, but neither Liberals or Tories elected enough seats — 21 and 22, respectively.
Michelle Conroy won Miramichi for the People's Alliance. (Michelle Conroy/Facebook)
So
now eyes are on the Green Party and the People's Alliance — both with
three seats — to discuss what alliances they may strike.
Conroy said she will discuss next steps with Austin, who won Fredericton-Grand Lake.
"We're a new party at this and we're going to go in as a team and we have a lot of things to discuss and that will all come in the next few weeks," she said.
During the election, Austin campaigned on the concept of allowing his fellow MLAs to vote freely, unencumbered by party lines.
He also campaigned on tax reform, ending language duality in healthcare and bussing, and ending corporate handouts.
Conroy said her "common sense" platform helped her defeat Liberal incumbent Bill Fraser, the transportation minister. Conroy, who beat Fraser by 963 votes, said she has a lot of respect for him.
"He was the first one that came into the office," she said. "I know what's he's done and what he is capable of and I have the utmost respect for him."
Two other People's Alliance candidates came close to winning ridings in the region.
Bill Fraser, the transportation minister in the Liberal government, lost his seat. (Shane Fowler/CBC)
PANB candidate Terry Collette came second to Liberal incumbent Lisa Harris in Miramichi Bay-Neguac.
Art O'Donnell narrowly lost Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin to Progressive Conservative incumbent Jake Stewart.
Conroy said the language wasn't the only issue voters in Miramichi were concerned about
"The voters in Miramichi are ready for a change," she said. "They are tired of the red and blue."
She said the party's position on language has been misrepresented as being opposed to bilingualism in government services.
"We're just looking for fairness and equality for all of New Brunswickers and any culture," she said.
Conroy said she expects the People's Alliance to play a role in the government, which Premier Brian Gallant said he will continue to lead despite coming up with fewer seats than the Progressive Conservatives.
"It looks like it's going to be a bit complicated," Conroy said. "The people in my riding voted for a change and I believe some of that change starts with a team approach to making New Brunswick better."
Michelle Conroy, the MLA-elect for the Miramichi riding spoke to CBC and Radio-Canada on Monday morning after party leader Kris Austin began refusing interviews and before Austin asked his other newly-elected MLA, Rick DeSaulniers of Fredericton-York, not to talk to media.
"We have to meet," DeSaulniers said after refusing an interview. He said the party will meet sometime this week.
Conroy said she can't offer any predictions about what deals the party will make and with whom, but she said it may be more difficult to work with the Liberal and Green parties.
"We hear that the Greens and the Liberals are not willing to work with us, so we feel the voice of the people and what they want and they're looking for some change and we're hoping to work as a team," she said.
On Tuesday, Lt.-Gov. Jocelyne Roy Vienneau gave Premier Brian Gallant permission to continue governing, and the Liberals have until the end of the year to try to win the confidence of the legislature by gaining the majority of the house.
The majority threshold is 25 seats, but neither Liberals or Tories elected enough seats — 21 and 22, respectively.
Conroy said she will discuss next steps with Austin, who won Fredericton-Grand Lake.
"We're a new party at this and we're going to go in as a team and we have a lot of things to discuss and that will all come in the next few weeks," she said.
During the election, Austin campaigned on the concept of allowing his fellow MLAs to vote freely, unencumbered by party lines.
He also campaigned on tax reform, ending language duality in healthcare and bussing, and ending corporate handouts.
Conroy's win
Conroy said her "common sense" platform helped her defeat Liberal incumbent Bill Fraser, the transportation minister. Conroy, who beat Fraser by 963 votes, said she has a lot of respect for him.
"He was the first one that came into the office," she said. "I know what's he's done and what he is capable of and I have the utmost respect for him."
Two other People's Alliance candidates came close to winning ridings in the region.
Art O'Donnell narrowly lost Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin to Progressive Conservative incumbent Jake Stewart.
Language not the only issue
Conroy said the language wasn't the only issue voters in Miramichi were concerned about
"The voters in Miramichi are ready for a change," she said. "They are tired of the red and blue."
She said the party's position on language has been misrepresented as being opposed to bilingualism in government services.
Conroy said she expects the People's Alliance to play a role in the government, which Premier Brian Gallant said he will continue to lead despite coming up with fewer seats than the Progressive Conservatives.
"It looks like it's going to be a bit complicated," Conroy said. "The people in my riding voted for a change and I believe some of that change starts with a team approach to making New Brunswick better."
With files from Information Morning Moncton
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How can Edmundston Mayor Cyrille Simard help the Political situation in Fredericton????
https://www.telegraphjournal.com/daily-gleaner/story/100731268/edmundston-cyrille-simard-provincial-government-david-coon?source=story-rotator
Can this man end N.B.'s political stalemate?
BOBBY THERRIEN Info Weekend
Edmundston Mayor Cyrille Simard has been asked to help find an answer to New Brunswick's political conundrum.
"[Green Party Leader David] Coon contacted me to ask if I could share my experience as an independent consultant since I have experience working in similar situations," Simard told Info Weekend on Wednesday.
"I will assist with the communication between the various stakeholders, facilitate exchanges between the concerned parties and support the negotiation process."
Green Party spokesperson Shannon Carmont confirmed Coon approached Simard because he's a "respected personality" with experience negotiating with government.
Since the Sept. 24 election, which gave no party a majority of seats - and added three People's Alliance candidates and two more Greens to the political mix - what comes next has been an ongoing question.
Liberal Leader Brian Gallant has the right to test the confidence of the Legislative Assembly, and says he will, but doesn't have enough seats within the party to produce a majority.
The Progressive Conservatives won one more seat than the Liberals, but also don't have the required 25 that constitutes a majority.
That's sparked plenty of backroom talks between the four parties, and Simard - who says he agreed to join in for the good of the province - being added to the mix.
Frédérick Dion, executive director of the Association of Francophone Municipalities of New Brunswick (AFMNB), said he considers Simard's arrival as good news. Dion said he believes people will see Simard as a non-partisan player.
"In my opinion, he will be of great help because of his knowledge and his strong interest in politics,” Dion said. “I do not doubt for a second the impartiality of Cyrille Simard."
According to Dion, Simard's diplomatic skills will also be essential when the parties at at the negotiating table.
"I believe these qualities have been his strength as mayor of Edmundston, and as a political enthusiast he is a keen observer. I find it refreshing that a political party has gone further than its own network in Fredericton to find someone who can bring a new perspective to the issue."
Mount Allison University political scientist Mario Levesque said he doesn't know Simard, but believes he's done a good job representing Edmundston on important files, including the now-shuttered Energy East project.
"We see that he has an interest in moving the province forward and I think it inspires people's confidence,” Levesque said
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