Thursday 4 October 2018

Quebec, N.B. elections show voters are open to something new

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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos 
Replying to and 49 others
"If a wave of anti-establishment voting is washing over the country, what impact could that have on next year's federal election?" DUHHH???

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2018/10/quebec-nb-elections-show-voters-are.html



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-quebec-nb-elections-1.4849287



Quebec, N.B. elections show voters are open to something new

New parties of both the left and right have made breakthroughs as old parties fall back



Éric Grenier · CBC News · Posted: Oct 04, 2018 4:00 AM ET



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David Amos
David Amos
"If a wave of anti-establishment voting is washing over the country, what impact could that have on next year's federal election?"

Is that a rhetorical question coming from CBC's all knowing Election Seer?





David Amos
David Amos
During the last Federal Election anti-establishment one candidate did not exist to CBC as usual

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276





David Amos
David Amos
Methinks CBC and many politicians are well aware I have been running in many election and familiar with this story that appeared in the Kings County Record June 22, 2004 N'esy Pas?

The Unconventional Candidate
By Gisele McKnight

"FUNDY—He has a pack of cigarettes in his shirt pocket, a chain on his wallet, a beard at least a foot long, 60 motorcycles and a cell phone that rings to the tune of "Yankee Doodle."

Meet the latest addition to the Fundy ballot—David Amos. The independent candidate lives in Milton, Massachusetts with his wife and two children, but his place of residence does not stop him from running for office in Canada."

"Amos, 52, is running for political office because of his dissatisfaction with politicians. "I've become aware of much corruption involving our two countries," he said. "The only way to fix corruption is in the political forum."

"What he's fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes' gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.

"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I'm death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window

NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico."


Shawn Pieterson
Shawn Pieterson
@David Amos
There are crazy, unhinged candidates in every election.
That's no big deal.

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn Pieterson Is that what you are saying of me?

Perhaps you should Google the following

David Amos Federal Court






Jason Davidson 
Andrew Farmer
If my riding had an Independent candidate with strong ethics, integrity and intelligence, with no strong religious affiliation I'd be all in.


Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Andrew Farmer Who is a wasted vote because they wont be able to do anything, you do realize how our system works right?

Andrew Farmer
Andrew Farmer
@Jim Moore

Yup, better to waste a vote but have some integrity and honour. You know what that is right?


David Amos
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David Amos
@Andrew Farmer Do you know of anyone who lives in Fundy Royal that thinks like you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

David Amos
David Amos
@Andrew Farmer Google

Fundy Royal Debate


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Moore I know exactly how the very corrupt system works. That is why I always run as an Independent. Laugh at me all you wish. At least I am a proud loser who has retained his common sense and sense of honour.






Jason Davidson 
Daryl McMurphy
Sometimes it is prudent to stay with the evil you know rather than take a chance on the absurd. Ontario is feeling the effects of electing the absurd, and Legault took just one day to start his goose step toward PQ style racism and hate.


Richard Mackay
Richard Mackay
@Daryl McMurphy Wow imagine where Quebec would be today on issues such as women working, women's education, Women's rights education in general separation of church and state, LGBTQ rights, etc... had that been the attitude during the Quiet revolution! Funny how back in the day we didn't see the Anglophone community upset when their little elite areas within Quebec provided Zero French services and in many cases refused outright to serve, hire, rent, etc... to the French speaking Quebecois as well as other minority groups!

Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Daryl McMurphy No Ontario voted Doug Ford in on mass and are behind him fully a few leftist complainers wont change anything, its time to face reality.

Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Richard Mackay Yea and now Quebec uses the Not withstanding Clause regularly to suppress anglophone rights, has Illegal language laws, doesn't provide services to anglophones in a majority of places even though 60% of Quebec is English as a first language, I don't see how its any better in your french utopia.

Richard Mackay
Richard Mackay
@Jim Moore Are you from Quebec? Do you know what it was like prior to the language laws? (Just to clarify I don't believe in it as it is presently)
Well I am from Quebec and well in my 50s and even I can remember the "no French" signs and the NO service, no rent, etc... to French Quebecois (as well as other non "English") in many "Anglo" towns and even in the heart of the Island of Montreal! Do you remember that at first all that was asked was to provide bilingual signs and French service? Do you remember the reaction of the English in Quebec? Well it was NO and then they seemed surprised when the laws became more draconian!

Richard Mackay
Richard Mackay
@Jim Moore How about this. Quebec starts offering the same level of English services as BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, PEI, Newfoundland and Labrador offer to the French. I'm sure that level of service would really please the Anglo community in Quebec!
Funny how when living in BC my Japanese wife had an easier time finding provincial and Vancouver city services in Japanese than I did getting services services in French!

Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Richard Mackay And now you have swung full circle and treat the anglophones the same way, how does that make you any better? You even use the not withstanding clause to ignore the charter and violate anglophones rights constantly.

Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Richard Mackay I find it really funny you are so offended that you got treated poorly in British Columbia when its the exact same way your government treats anglophones in Quebec

David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Mackay I am older than you and I remember things very differently

Richard Mackay
Richard Mackay
@Jim Moore As you can take a guess from My name My family is quite mixed Francophone, Anglophone, Allophone. My wife is neither French nor English nor is my brother in-law both immigrants! It is interesting how not once have either of them had any problems getting English services from the Montreal, Quebec city or the Quebec provincial governments, nor have any other non French family members!
But to this day getting French service outside Quebec, Good luck!
Quebec still treats the Non French way way way better than most or other provinces treat the French!
So how about this Fix the other provinces first then they and you can come back and tell Quebec how bad it is! If I got half the services in French as the English get in Quebec I would have been over the moon happy!










Carl Street
Carl Street
Liberals live in their own world, out of touch with voters ...


Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@Jordan F. Dorino The Liberals are the ones not Living in reality along with people who still support them, have you seen any recent elections, they have lost ALL of them and in most cases by extremely large margins

David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Moore You talk just like the lawyer Rob Moore. Methinks you must be related N'esy Pas?


Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@David Amos Hey truth hurts bud, the Libs are toast denial wont change it.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Moore As a Proud Independent I run against Canada's self described "Natural Governing Party" first and foremost.

In 2004 Harper's new Conservative Party were newbies to the ballot just like I was and they lost that election too. N'esy Pas?

(BTW I don't care if snobby Anglos take offense to my Chiac Trust that French folks who live around the Bay of Fundy understand the joke)



david mccaig
david mccaig
@Carl Street

Its the same old choice of electing teedledee or tweedledum.

Greg Gore (formerly Greggore)
Greg Gore (formerly Greggore)
@Carl Street - more like out of touch with the human race! or is that People Kind?

David Amos
David Amos
@david mccaig This article is about an election I just ran in. Although CBC denied that I existed on the ballot as usual other media did not. Furthermore I know for a fact there were no candidates named teedledee or tweedledum.



David Amos
David Amos
@david mccaig "Quote CBC headlines "Quebec, N.B. elections show voters are open to something new"

Well at least I ran in the election. What did you do?







Doug Crawford
Doug Crawford
Maybe Canadians are sick of the "new", and want a return to the old ? Certainly many are sick of the Laurentian elites and especially the Trudeau.


David Amos
David Amos
@Doug Crawford YUP



David Amos
David Amos
@david mccaig "Majority of Canadians last election proved that the ONLY political party and its leader they're SICK OF , was Stephen Harper and the REFORMACONS"

When I put my name on the ballot for the election of the 42nd Parliament your beloved NDP were the highest in the polls. Methinks they were bigtime losers too N'esy Pas?







Jason Davidson   
Taggert Watson
That's so funny, but not surprising, that you just happened to forget about the spanking the left wing establishment just took in Canada's largest Province.


David Amos
David Amos
@Taggert Watson Welcome to the Circus








Jason Davidson
Shawn Pieterson
And Canada will be open to something new federally.
Mr. Dressup was a great kids show, but it's not what you want as PM.


Mar Pell
Mar Pell
@Shawn Pieterson

I will take what we have now over an insurance salesman who hardly opens his mouth.

Look around at what is available for 2019 should make one easy to picki.

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Mar Pell

Mr. Scheer is an incredibly intelligent and well spoken man. He certainly doesn't shoot his mouth off like Justin, but thinks carefully and consistently makes wise decisions. Mr. Scheer will be our next Prime Minister and he will clean up Justin's mess.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson "Mr. Scheer is an incredibly intelligent and well spoken man"

Too Too Funny

David Amos
David Amos
@Shawn Pieterson Methinks you need a lesson on hard ball politicking I trust that you know that Mr Dressup's people are laughing at you N'esy Pas?

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Jason Davidson
Boy he certainly has you hook line and sinker, but then again sheep are easily led .......

Mary Bellows
Mary Bellows
@David Amos

So because he doesn't go "ummmmm errrrrr ahhhhhhhhh Don't question meummmmmmmm errrrrrrrrrrr ahhhhhhhhhhh because I ummmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhh errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr am the Liberal ahhhhhh ummmmmmmmm errrrrrrrrrrrrr King"

Means he is not well spoken or intelligent?

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@David Amos

Please share with my readers why you find that funny. I'm assuming you are suggesting Mr. Scheer is unintelligent/incompotent. If so, please share some insight and examples to educate us.

On the other hand, if you would like evidence that shows Justin is unintelligent/incompotent, please just ask and I would be more then happy to oblige. Just not sure how much time I have this morning. :)


David Amos
David Amos
@Mary Bellows Nope it because he failed to answer my lawsuit when he had the chance.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson "If so, please share some insight and examples to educate us"

Google "David Amos Federal Court" and start reading

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Mary Bellows
I'd get your keyboard checked seems some of your keys are sticking, looks like gibberish .........

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Steven Scott

How does have 'have me'? Please explain to my readers your implications of deception. Funny how the radical left throws insults with no substance.

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Mary Bellows

haha! I suppose that's a good start.

Mary Bellows
Mary Bellows
@Steven Scott

Yes most librl sheep are easily led by the promise of legal pot and free money to buy it.

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@David Amos

Not sure if any of us know about your secrete lawsuit David.


Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Steven Scott

Probably a very similar mechanical function you'd find in Justin's brain. :)

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson "Not sure if any of us know about your secrete lawsuit David."

Federal Court file # T-1557-15

BTW Whereas we are not friends its Mr Amos to you


Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@David Amos

Just gave it a cursory scan. First observation is that this was not Mr. Scheer's call. Second, this case never should have even gotten to where it did.

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@David Amos

All Canadian's are my friend David.

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Jason Davidson
You must think everyone waits for your posts, give us a brake "my readers" for a newbie you have high expectations that your readers hang on every word you say, conservatives they always have misguided priorities and totally fictitious fabricated fantasies, scheer is the brunt of the joke enjoyed by 70% of Canadians ..........

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Steven Scott

Steven, I'm sorry but you don't know who you are talking. I have thousands of readers and followers who enjoy reading my posts. Unfortunately my account has had to been refreshed several times over the past few years. But stick around and I'm sure you will become one of my followers :)

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@David Amos

Looks like you have spent your fair share taxpayer resources David. Good for you.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson "All Canadian's are my friend David."

Nay Not I


David Amos
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David Amos
@Jason Davidson "Just gave it a cursory scan. First observation is that this was not Mr. Scheer's call. Second, this case never should have even gotten to where it did."

Clearly you know nothing of litigation N'esy Pas? Methinks my question should be who is your lawyer?

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson "Just gave it a cursory scan. First observation is that this was not Mr. Scheer's call. Second, this case never should have even gotten to where it did."

Methinks you know nothing of litigation N'esy Pas?









Jason Davidson 
Jim Moore
No voters in Canada on mass are sick of the Liberals, They were Trounced in the three most populated provinces and by a large margin, the Liberals are out in fall 2019, its pretty obvious.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Moore Methinks even a few Independents may win next time N'esy Pas?

David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos I ran against a Conservative lawyer by the name of Rob Moore twice thus far. Are you related? Anyway in the 2004 election he won the seat for the first time next time in 2015 we both lost. Perhaps the third time in 2019 will be a charm for me.









Richard Dekkar
Richard Dekkar
The blue wave started in Ontario and is washing away red and orange stain and stench across the country.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Dekkar Methinks you should study the results of the Elections in BC and NB closer N'esy Pas?


Shane Christopher
Shane Christopher
@Richard Dekkar Blue waves come and go. Have you forgotten how Canadians turfed your beloved Harper a mere few years back?

Shane Christopher
Shane Christopher
@Brandon Earnest I love how people downvote facts

Wendy Suiter
Wendy Suiter
@Richard Dekkar I wouldn't count the Ontario election as a sign of anything. It was a vote AGAINST Wynne with not much alternative. Dougie isn't exactly impressing much since he's been in. That said, people could just as easily vote AGAINST the federal liberals but who they will vote for is not guaranteed. Harper is still pretty fresh in the memory. That new party is looking better all the time.

David Amos
David Amos
@Wendy Suiter Methinks that even CBC agrees that the People's Party is gonna steal a lot of thunder from the Conservatives and may help the liberals win a minority mandate in 2019 N'esy Pas?







Joe Talbot  
Peter Ray
It's not that we want something 'different'.

It that we want competence.

Somehow, the Liberals just don't get that virtue-signalling, divisive 'diversity', massive deficits, ignoring victims of crime, and pushing an unwanted and discriminatory feminist agenda is a major miss with voters.

One and gone in 2019.


David Amos
David Amos
@Peter Ray "It that we want competence."

Me Too








Bryan Danielson
Bryan Danielson
The Liberals successfully persuaded the masses that any party but them is a big evil monster hiding under your bed and it looks like those masses are finally growing up.


David Amos
David Amos 
@Bryan Danielson Methinks many folks would agree that Trudeau The Younger won a big mandate because he promised his beloved peoplekind who had had enough of Harper that there would be no more first past the post elections and a promise to legalize dope for the benefit many other folks who would not bother to vote for any other reason. Although the Liberals made good on one promise I bet that you agree that many of the folks who like to smoke dope won't bother to turn up at the polls again next year and the folks who were suckered by the electoral reform promise will vote for either the NDP or the Greens next time N'esy Pas?







Jason Davidson
 Ben Robinson
Yes, and it is about time.


David Amos
David Amos
@Ben Robinson YUP





Jim Moore 
Mary Bellows
WOW the post police are sure out this morning.


Taggert Watson
Taggert Watson
@Mary Bellows ...the successors to government block watchers from the old Warsaw Pact.

Go to dinner at your neighbor's, snitch on him in the morning to party officials and get loaf of stale bread.

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Mary Bellows
Better watch what you're typing then, you know the rules or do you think they don't apply to conservatives ........

Marcus Aetuis
Marcus Aetuis
@Mary Bellows
Yup, and the people's news service will actually ban you from posting for weeks if they don't agree with what you post.

Taggert Watson
Taggert Watson
@Steven Scott Questions is whether the rules apply to socialists.

The innocent stuff that get blocked leads me to think that the block watchers don't know or understand very much.

David Amos
David Amos
@Marcus Aetuis Methinks they will do more than that N'esy Pas?
  








Jason Davidson  
Jason Davidson
This is very good news for the Scheer government. I think voters are getting tired of the arrogance and incompetence of Justin and his cronies.


Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Jason Davidson
How could this be good news for scheer, conservatives never won a single seat in Quebec sounds like he lost big time and will lose even more seats with bernier running against him ........

Mary Bellows
Mary Bellows
@Steven Scott

Mainly it will take 78 seats away from your king. Meaning he will cry in the corner and be gone so we can have an adult running the country again.

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson Methinks you are fishing for an audience N'esy Pas?


Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Steven Scott

Google the relationship between the CAQ and Conservatives. The CAQ is the Conservative Party rebranded.

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@David Amos
Just another over opinionated conservative who thinks someone will listen, kids what do you do with them ........

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@David Amos

I think Mr. Amos wasted signficant Canadian tax payer resources with a begrudging legal process.

Jason Davidson
Jason Davidson
@Steven Scott
You see, its this kind of shallow name calling and radical left arrogance that will be Justin's downfall.

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Jason Davidson
That happened on the Federal side also when the reformers killed the conservative party, this means the conservatives are officially dead in Canada and Quebec which is a good thing wouldn't you say ..........


David Amos
FDavid Amos
@Steven Scott "kids what do you do with them ........"

Obviously I wish to debate them in a public forum financed by my fellow taxpayers

David Amos
David Amos
@Jason Davidson Libel people much?







Jason Davidson  
 Evan Guest
It's more simple than your analysis. Justin Trudeau's incompetence, arrogance, and mis guided idology is causing people to abandon Liberals everywhere in droves.

David Amos
David Amos
@Evan Guest True









Jason Davidson  
John Ng
Any way you slice it CBC, Canadians are just fed up with Trudeau's view of Canada. We love our borders protected, we love our Prime Minister focused on the need of ALL Canadians, we love the wealth provided by Alberta, by Ontario, we are tired of a government that its only credit is legalizing pot, wait until that comes, it will be another fiasco to add to their list.


Jane Beagle
Jane Beagle
@John Ng
Spot on John.

Jim Moore
Jim Moore
@John Ng A lot of Canadians are sick of CBC pushing their political agenda and propaganda and would love nothing more than to see their tax payer funding removed because they don't represent all Canadians objectively and haven't for a long time, that and if they want to bombard us with paid advertising then they don't need or tax dollars either. They can compete like the other media corporations.


David Amos
David Amos
@Jim Moore Imagine me agreeing with you?








Richard Dekkar
Bill Davis
They are----getting rid of Trudeau and anything liberal. Everywhere that is but the left coast loons in Vancouver and Vancouver Island.


Joe Talbot
Joe Talbot
@Bill Davis

There's pretty good logic behind that, the Right can get pretty disjointed too. Whatever the money says they'll do. If the Right in BC can find some integrity they'll get another shot.

David Amos
David Amos
@Joe Talbot "If the Right in BC can find some integrity they'll get another shot"

Dream on








Tony Trowel 
Tony Trowel
The liberal brand is tainted across our land. The "I-know-whats-best-for Canadians" social policies of Justin Trudeau are beginning to undermine the libbies. Soft on crime. Weak immigration policy. Carbon tax. Social license. This in combination with conflict of interest scandals and ethic violations.


Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Tony Trowel
Disgruntled conservatives always say that in fact so often nobody believes it anymore .......

Mark Burgoyne
Mark Burgoyne
@Tony Trowel So whats next? Conservative are still tainted by Harper. I can't see Jarmeet getting much support. looks like a minority on the way

Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@Mark Burgoyne
Jagmeet doesn't even have a seat so I don't expect much from them, bad choice for the NDP almost as bad as the conservatives .......

David Amos
David Amos
@Mark Burgoyne "looks like a minority on the way"

I concur

David Amos
David Amos
@Steven Scott Jagmeet went nowhere fast








Rachael Saunders 
Rachael Saunders
This is Canada's Brexit from the Trudeau Liberals.


David Amos
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David Amos
@Rachael Saunders Methinks the issues are apples and oranges but the liberals have the same sort of black eye from their own lies N'esy Pas?








Jason Davidson 
mo bennett
nope! voters are just pickin' the newbies simply to get away from the same old evil the tired old hacks have been serving up since confederation!


mo bennett
mo bennett
@Douglas Blake and the first one is a 4 letter word starting with F.

David Amos
David Amos
@mo bennett So you say EH?

David Amos
David Amos
@David Amos YO Mo did ya notice that CBC did not mention the fact that I ran in this election too?



mo bennett
mo bennett
@David Amos did you drop the messy paws thingy just for the election?













Joc McTavish 
Joc McTavish
Eric Grenier should try a new methodology for predicting elections instead of being a cheerleader for the Big Red Machine.


David Amos
David Amos
@Joc McTavish "Eric Grenier should try a new methodology"

Methinks he may after the next federal election N'esy Pas?








Nick Salva
Richard Dekkar
Canadians are rejecting the hyper taxed elite and union run nanny state and the finger wagging proselytizing that goes with it.


David Amos
David Amos
@Richard Dekkar Methinks Canadians are rejecting the old style of party politics in general N'esy Pas?









Jason Davidson

suz cloutier
imagine having the gov tell you you needed to keep your front door open and accessible to anyone who wanted to come into your home because they needed a place to stay and since you had a nice home you would be required to offer it to anyone who asked for it and take care of them for however long they requested it no questions asked and pay for all their share of groceries, electricity and water they consumed

how many of the liberals on here would do this

how many shady individuals would you get who would take advantage of this???

its essentially the same thing

why are we more protective of our homes but not of our country



Ron Vollans
Ron Vollans
@suz cloutier
A home is a long way from a country. Same as running a business is not anything like running a country.
David Amos
David Amos
@Ron Vollans I disagree




  




Jason Davidson
 Bob Smith
The age of the Liberals being the "natural governing party" in Canada is over.

We are sick of the fiscal mismanagement, the scandals, the identity politics and the Liberal core tenant that Canadians come second to other nations, and their economic migrants,

People want fiscal responsibility, transparency, smaller government, no more tax hikes, responsible legal immigration and the restoration of Western values.


Heath Tierney
Heath Tierney
@Bob Smith

Well, that precludes every single one of the current Federal parties.

David Amos
David Amos
@Heath Tierney YUP










Steve Davidson 
Bob Lashram
It's not that Canadians want something new, they just want some semblance of competence, honesty and integrity...and the liberals fail miserably on all counts...


Steve Davidson
Steve Davidson
@Bob Lashram Its just the progressive agenda all together, the Fed Liberals just represent the largest influence from nanny state provincial and city govs they are always telling us what is best for us either a
Carbon tax that does nothing, million dollar,bike paths that are used by 10 people a day or now they talk about free transit and a free living wage !who voted in these crackpots?Most of them did not run on these items,once in they think they can dictate how we should live driving up our costs and taxes enough already, and the silent majority has enough of these phonies.

David Amos
David Amos
@Bob Lashram So do all the other political parties










Joc McTavish 
Joc McTavish
Not really Eric. Canadians are just weary of the same old tired and worn out Liberal Party that dictates how people are going to live.


David Amos
David Amos
@Joc McTavish Canadians are just weary




  



Brandon Earnest
Colin Jackson
In other words, anybody but Liberals.


Brandon Earnest
Brandon Earnest
@Shane MacDonald Actually, the Quebec Liberals have traditionally been the centre-right party. Afterall, Jean Charest led the Liberals for the most time since 2002/2003, yet he was a federal Tory leader the decade prior. People forget the Quebec Liberals and BC Liberals aren't exactly related to the federal party or nor do these results have major significance. If anything, these recent elections help Trudeau at the federal level.

David Amos
David Amos
@Colin Jackson Or Conservatives or NDP or Greens









Mark Deckard 
Mark Deckard
Quebec, N.B. elections show voters are fed up with the Liberal Party brand.


David Amos
David Amos
@Mark Deckard Methinksmany would agree that the elections proved more than just that N'esy Pas?










Jason Davidson  
Elton Elm
In the mood for something different? Is that the CBCs way of saying the people are completely fed up with moralizing, free spending sunny ways?


Elton Elm
Elton Elm
@Dwight Williams Your personal attack is consistent with the behavior of the sunny ways team.

David Amos
David Amos
@Elton Elm Methinks he is confused N'esy Pas?









Micheal Knight 
Micheal Knight
Nope..people
Tired of Liberals that is it


Shane Christopher
Shane Christopher
@Micheal Knight Nope. People sick of Libs & Cons BOTH

David Amos
David Amos
@Shane Christopher YUP but don't forget the NDP and the Greens









Jason Davidson 
Kevin Moore
An overhaul in Canadian politics is long overdue.


David Amos
David Amos
@Kevin Moore Methinks there are a lot of fellas name Moore upset by this article this morning N'esy Pas?











Quebec, N.B. elections show voters are open to something new

New parties of both the left and right have made breakthroughs as old parties fall back


François Legault formed the Coalition Avenir Québec in 2011. He won a majority government in his third election as leader on Monday. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)


Voters in Canada appear to be in the mood for something a little different.

In two provincial elections in as many weeks, significant breakthroughs were made by parties formed so recently that, if they were voters themselves, they'd be too young to cast a ballot.

The older, established parties — the ones that have a history of governing — have taken a hit as a result. If a wave of anti-establishment voting is washing over the country, what impact could that have on next year's federal election?

In last week's provincial vote in New Brunswick, two small parties emerged as kingmakers. The People's Alliance — a conservative populist party — and the Greens each won three seats, enough to give them a lot of sway in a legislature otherwise made up of 22 Progressive Conservatives and 21 Liberals.

Both parties were contesting only their third elections and, between them, had only ever won a single seat in their previous two attempts. But 24.5 per cent of New Brunswickers cast a ballot for either the People's Alliance or the Greens — a remarkable result in a province that, with the exception of one election, has never elected more than one MLA at a time from outside the Liberal and PC parties in nearly a century.


In last week's provincial election in New Brunswick, and in his third election as leader, People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin finally won a seat, as did two other People's Alliance candidates. (CBC)
On Monday, Quebecers gave François Legault's centre-right Coalition Avenir Québec a majority government with 37.4 per cent of the vote. It was a historic result. The last time a party other than the Liberals or the Parti Québécois won an election in Quebec was in 1966.

But alongside the CAQ's decisive victory, a left-wing sovereignist party, Québec Solidaire, also made significant inroads. Formed in 2006, Québec Solidaire captured 16.1 per cent of the vote and elected 10 MNAs, pushing the PQ to fourth-party status in the National Assembly — a position the PQ hasn't held since it was a new party itself in 1970.

In Quebec, both the Liberals and the PQ received their lowest share of the vote in any election in their history. In New Brunswick, the combined score for the Liberals and PCs has only been lower once before — in 1991.

It all foreshadows what could be a period of considerable political disruption nationwide.

Something new on the left, something populist on the right


In New Brunswick and Quebec, political parties on the left were able to win new seats by offering to do politics differently.

Québec Solidaire was able to win seats from both the Liberals and PQ with a very left-wing platform.

One factor in the party's success undoubtedly was its co-spokesperson Manon Massé (the party has two 'leaders', one male and one female), who impressed in two French-language debates by keeping her cool while the other three leaders bickered. Clips of her rolling her eyes or bowing her head in frustration became instant social media memes among her supporters.


Party co-spokesperson Manon Massé has been credited with Québec Solidaire's breakthrough in Monday's provincial election. The party was founded in 2006. (Peter McCabe/Canadian Press )
The N.B. Greens capitalized on dissatisfaction with the two old-line parties, rather than any particular surge in environmental concerns in the province, to steal two seats away from the Liberals.

The B.C. Greens already hold the balance of power in British Columbia after last year's election.

Meanwhile, Ontario Green Leader Mike Schreiner won his seat in June's provincial vote — the first Green candidate to do so in the province's history — and the Greens in Prince Edward Island were leading in a recent poll.

If the federal Greens can also tap into voter dissatisfaction, they could make breakthroughs of their own next year. But Elizabeth May has been the leader of the party since 2006, making her the longest-serving leader of any provincial or federal party in the country. That might make it more difficult to present her and her party as the breath of fresh air voters were attracted to in New Brunswick and Quebec.


Last week, N.B. Green Leader David Coon led his party to three seats in its third election in the province. 
The New Democrats could move unabashedly leftwards to differentiate themselves from the federal Liberals and Conservatives and align themselves with the youthful and enthusiastic base of Québec Solidaire. But QS still did worse in Quebec than the NDP did in the province in the 2015 federal election — and it remains a sovereignist party, which is an obvious no-go area for the NDP.

The CAQ and People's Alliance ran successful populist campaigns, promising to break the old, sclerotic patterns of each province's politics — the sovereignist-federalist divide in Quebec, the Liberal-PC duopoly in New Brunswick. What their proposals might have lacked in detail or practicality (think of the CAQ's immigration policy or the People's Alliance position on bilingualism) was more than made up for in their emotional appeal.

More disruption to come in 2019?


It is this strain that has the most potential to disrupt the 2019 federal election. The New Democrats are struggling under Jagmeet Singh and, despite the party's name, the NDP is far from a 'new' party. The Greens are an established brand at the federal level and would be unlikely to have an enormous impact on the results, even if they steal away a few more seats. Three or four MPs in a House of Commons of 338 can only do so much.

But the People's Party formed by ex-Conservative MP Maxime Bernier could still cause some trouble. Though it has been dismissed by his former colleagues as an incoherent vanity project, new figures announced by Bernier this week suggest the party is off to a decent start.

In an email blast to his followers, the Quebec MP claimed the People's Party has signed up 20,500 members already. That isn't an insignificant amount. The federal NDP, whose membership rolls include those of its provincial affiliates, had only 40,000 members at the beginning of its 2017 leadership race.

The Conservatives had 100,000 members at the start of that year when they were in the midst of their own leadership contest.


People's Party Leader Maxime Bernier says he has raised $338,000 and signed up 20,500 members for his party. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)
Bernier also claims to have raised $338,000 in the five weeks since he left the Conservative Party — without being able to offer donors a tax credit. Extrapolated over a full year, it suggests the party could raise $3.5 million, putting it within range of the NDP and ahead of the Greens.

The People's Party still has a long way to go. Polls suggest that Bernier's appeal remains relatively limited, and there is no sign yet that a large number of people are reporting to pollsters their intention to vote for his party unprompted.

Local provincial politics played a decisive role in the success of these newer parties in the recent elections in Quebec and New Brunswick. But the results suggest that voters are ready and willing to abandon the old traditional parties in order to try something new.

There's an opportunity there. All that's left is for someone to grab it.

About the Author

 


Éric Grenier
Politics and polls
Éric Grenier is a senior writer and the CBC's polls analyst. He was the founder of ThreeHundredEight.com and has written for The Globe and Mail, Huffington Post Canada, The Hill Times, Le Devoir, and L’actualité.



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