David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Methinks many folks would agree that Pamela Ross and her Council of
Canadian buddies are professional protesters supported by the NDP and
the unions N'esy Pas?
'Break out the signs': Shale gas foes take to the streets again
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David Amos
Methinks many folks would
agree that Pamela Ross, and her Council of Canadian buddies are
professional protesters supported by the NDP and the unions N'esy Pas?
Nancy Alcox
@David Amos Professional Protester? What does that even mean? Qu’est-ce que tu dis?
Buford Wilson
(Good call David).
David Amos
@Nancy Alcox Methinks if CBC didn't' block me so much I could N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Buford Wilson Name one call that was false
David Amos
@Nancy Alcox Methinks whereas
Dominic Cardy and his lawyer buddy Kelly Lamrock are no longer NDP
dudes and now support fracking perhaps they can explain the Council of
Canadians to you N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
Bo Maz
Lou Bell
Grace Morris
Arthur John
Samual Johnston
1. If we don't receive a decent royally why let anyone have any of our resources?
2. Potash mining is not coming back to town in the foreseeable future so why bother at all other that the fact that Hiiggs' old bosses the Irving Clan want cheap gas for their operations?
3. Whereas the price of natural gas is so low how much royalty could we get even if they finally agreed to pay a fair percentage? Furthermore what does Corridor plan to do with their waste water that nobody wants in their backyard?
4. Why doesn't the Irving Clan buy what they need elsewhere and bring it the fancy LNG facility that they have had a huge property tax break on forever and a day while they billed their dumb Repsol pals bigtime N'esy Pas?
Jeff LeBlanc
shane colpitts
Marc Martin
David Peters
David Stairs
Craig O'Donnell
Dave Corbin
Marguerite Deschamps
@David Amos, we call those political hoars. Yet they voted for Cardy.
David Peters
@David Amos
...and foreign entities who dont want our resources on the market.
http://blog.friendsofscience.org/2018/10/12/an-open-letter-to-the-minister-of-finance-on-the-matter-of-changes-to-the-charities-act/amp/
...and foreign entities who dont want our resources on the market.
http://blog.friendsofscience.org/2018/10/12/an-open-letter-to-the-minister-of-finance-on-the-matter-of-changes-to-the-charities-act/amp/
Marc Martin
@David Amos
Davis your on rampage today !!!
Davis your on rampage today !!!
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you are
after your hero Gallnt quit as your local leader Everybody knows I
commented last night today I am merely responding to other folks as I
enjoy the Circus N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps "we call those political hoars. Yet they voted for Cardy."
Who is "WE' ???
Who is "WE' ???
Fred Brewer
You can carve my words in stone. If Higgs brings fracking back he will have fracked himself out of a job come next election.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer I would not bet the farm on it
Bo Maz
The anti-workforce are out with their signs again... Higgs was voted in to start fracking and fracking we will go..
David Amos
@Bo Maz Methinks you have no idea how much work fracking will generate N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Why not just use signs that say " If you're lookin' for a job , move away " ?
David Amos
@Lou Bell Methinks thinks you
should put a note at the bottom of the sign that says "Would the last
Anglophone leaving please bring the provincial flag and allow the
Acadian flag to continue to wave over the Legislature to bye bye to us
all." The French folks can speak to each other in the lingo of their
choosing and continue to pay taxes to support duality in case we decide
to come back for vacations or to retire N'esy Pas?
Grace Morris
Did everyone in favour of
this idea miss the warning from the UN suggesting that we have 12 years
to try to turn things around?
"The Human Fingerprint on Greenhouse Gases
Greenhouse gases occur naturally and are essential to the survival of humans and millions of other living things, by keeping some of the sun’s warmth from reflecting back into space and making Earth livable. A century and a half of industrialization, including clear-felling forests and certain farming methods, has driven up quantities of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. As populations, economies and standards of living grow, so does the cumulative level of greenhouse gases (GHGs) emissions.
There are some basic well-established scientific links:
The concentration of GHGs in the earth’s atmosphere is directly linked to the average global temperature on Earth;
The concentration has been rising steadily, and mean global temperatures along with it, since the time of the Industrial Revolution;
The most abundant GHG, carbon dioxide (CO2), is the product of burning fossil fuels."
http://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/« less
"The Human Fingerprint on Greenhouse Gases
Greenhouse gases occur naturally and are essential to the survival of humans and millions of other living things, by keeping some of the sun’s warmth from reflecting back into space and making Earth livable. A century and a half of industrialization, including clear-felling forests and certain farming methods, has driven up quantities of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. As populations, economies and standards of living grow, so does the cumulative level of greenhouse gases (GHGs) emissions.
There are some basic well-established scientific links:
The concentration of GHGs in the earth’s atmosphere is directly linked to the average global temperature on Earth;
The concentration has been rising steadily, and mean global temperatures along with it, since the time of the Industrial Revolution;
The most abundant GHG, carbon dioxide (CO2), is the product of burning fossil fuels."
http://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/« less
David Amos
@Grace Morris Methinks if we quite mowing down our forests it would take care of all the CO2 we create for a joke N'esy Pas?
Arthur John
Several wells in New
Brunswick have already been fractured, where are the environmental
disasters described by the alarmist posts of protesters.
Fred Brewer
@Arthur John
Hmmm. Let's see. I have never fallen down a set of stairs, therefore this could never happen to me. Yep, that's pretty sound logic.
Hmmm. Let's see. I have never fallen down a set of stairs, therefore this could never happen to me. Yep, that's pretty sound logic.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Hmmm better safe
than sorry. Does your home have stairs? If so has David Suzuki and
Bruce Northrup offered an opinion about the shape they are in? Best call
Frank McKenna a ask which insurance company his bank controls offers
the best deals on home insurance in case somebody like me who has fallen
down stairs drops in and takes a tumble N'esy Pas?
Samual Johnston
There is lots of info on both
sides of the fracking argument but it has been going on on other areas
for so long there must be millions and millions of contaminated wells
out there if we are to believe how bad it is. Are all the governments
in Canada the USA and around the world holding back all of this
information from the public? Are all the news networks in on this and
hiding the facts from us? what is going on? Is it really death to the
world or can it be done safely?
David Amos
@Samual Johnston Methinks the Irving Clan Northrup, Higgs, Corridor know the fracking issue is really simple to me.
1. If we don't receive a decent royally why let anyone have any of our resources?
2. Potash mining is not coming back to town in the foreseeable future so why bother at all other that the fact that Hiiggs' old bosses the Irving Clan want cheap gas for their operations?
3. Whereas the price of natural gas is so low how much royalty could we get even if they finally agreed to pay a fair percentage? Furthermore what does Corridor plan to do with their waste water that nobody wants in their backyard?
4. Why doesn't the Irving Clan buy what they need elsewhere and bring it the fancy LNG facility that they have had a huge property tax break on forever and a day while they billed their dumb Repsol pals bigtime N'esy Pas?
Jeff LeBlanc
Fracking can go frack off. We
should be promoting tourism more and base the economy around that, or
at least more of the economy. It's not like the poor folks will be any
better off when the rich are getting richer from shale gas revenues. Not
like they plan on sharing with the rest of us.
Samual Johnston
@Jeff LeBlanc not sure about fracking but I know tourism is not going to save this province
Jeff LeBlanc
@Samual Johnston never said
it would and with all due respect what you "know" means nothing because
you are not in a position of power to do anything about it even if you
did "know" what would fix this province
David Amos
@Jeff LeBlanc I suppose you can?
shane colpitts
When people start protesting
at the refinery, papermills, nuclear pants, and the forestery sector.
Stop driving cars turn off the electricity because coal is bad then we
can talk about how "bad" fracking is. I know we can live like its the
1600's. Wonder why the rest Canada thinks were a bunch of hill billy's?
we are indeed ANTI everything
David Amos
@shane colpitts Methinks
everybody knows that I am a very Proud Hillbilly In fact Franky Boy
McKenna as our man in Washington in 2005 knew what many lawyers north
and south of the 49th already knew. It was that the Yankees called my
Clan "The Milton Hillbillys" for many years. Franky and his buddy Billy
Clinton thought it was funny and so did I for obvious reasons N'esy
Pas?
Marc Martin
Why is this news ? The NBers are anti-everything.
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you dudes from Quebec are are anti-everything too N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
@David Amos Marc supports
the " defeated , one trick pony ". And he made 3 grammar mistakes while
telling me he was superior to me in my English . A good example of what
our government is hiring these days ! One trick ponies !
David Peters
Ever wonder how these professional protesters are funded? Follow the money....
http://blog.friendsofscience.org/2018/10/12/an-open-letter-to-the-minister-of-finance-on-the-matter-of-changes-to-the-charities-act/amp/
http://blog.friendsofscience.org/2018/10/12/an-open-letter-to-the-minister-of-finance-on-the-matter-of-changes-to-the-charities-act/amp/
David Amos
@David Peters Trust that I researched them in 2004.
David Amos
@David Peters Methinks a lot
of folks and Trudeau The Younger in particular still recall when Harper
called them Eco Terrorists and sent the Tax Man after them N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-trudeau-travel-aug10-1.3185742
"Harper has already conflated peaceful protests with eco-terrorism"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-trudeau-travel-aug10-1.3185742
"Harper has already conflated peaceful protests with eco-terrorism"
David Stairs
the fear mongerers are
getting a quick start to mislead the public...I just wish they had first
hand experience around the industry before being able to protest on
something most do not have a clue about..but then again,that seems to be
the way in New Brunswick..cut off your nose to spite your face...the
technology being used today is a far cry from what was used 50 years ago
..which is what their facts are based on...it's a good thing NASA
didn't set up shop here..we'd still be in the warehouse..
Marc Martin
@David Stairs
Your going to go against who you voted for ? Interesting.
Your going to go against who you voted for ? Interesting.
Roy Kirk
@David Stairs
" .I just wish they had first hand experience around the industry before being able to protest on something . . ."
The authoritarian's lament.
" .I just wish they had first hand experience around the industry before being able to protest on something . . ."
The authoritarian's lament.
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you are twisting the facts again N'esy Pas?
Craig O'Donnell
I do not understand the
objection to allowing the practice in areas where people would allow it
and welcome the economic spin-off of even the exploration phase. If a
majority in Fredericton North say "no, we don't want it", then why
should any of them be opposed to it taking place in Penobsquis?
The so-called "Council of Canadians" (a grandiose name for a self-appointed environmental group getting who knows what for funding and from who) is taking a sweeping across the board view on this when in areas, it is simply none of their business.
The so-called "Council of Canadians" (a grandiose name for a self-appointed environmental group getting who knows what for funding and from who) is taking a sweeping across the board view on this when in areas, it is simply none of their business.
Shawn McShane
@Craig O'Donnell Community of
Penobsquis divided over fracking. Chamber of Commerce is remaining
neutral. So do we have a referendum in every area they want to frack?
Who pays for that?
Marc Martin
@Craig O'Donnell
This is awesome watching 2 PANB voters debating against what they voted for....Popcorn time !!!
This is awesome watching 2 PANB voters debating against what they voted for....Popcorn time !!!
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks everybody knows your agenda N'esy Pas?
Dave Corbin
Still waiting for the Tories catastrophic drug care plan promised the last time they held office.
David Peters
@Dave Corbin
Where's the money going to come from?
Where's the money going to come from?
David Amos
@David Peters Methinks everybody knows Ottawa is where most of our money goes some of it should come back now and then.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/premiers-health-friday-1.4754762
"Premiers call for 'voluntary' pharmacare program funded by Ottawa"
Not everyone forgot that Gallant really upset the other provinces when he was the first to buckle to Trudeau over Health Care N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/brian-gallant-justin-trudeau-health-funding-1.3909603
"Bilateral deal for health-care funding shatters united front among provinces after talks break down"
@David Amos
Great post!
Can you imagine those two birds in charge of all healthcare spending?!
Verifies the libertarian view that gov't run healthcare is not the solution, but the problem. Politics, politicians and unions should be kept as far from healthcare and education as possible.
Great post!
Can you imagine those two birds in charge of all healthcare spending?!
Verifies the libertarian view that gov't run healthcare is not the solution, but the problem. Politics, politicians and unions should be kept as far from healthcare and education as possible.
Wayne Mac Arthur
The shale gas protest lasted
as long as the cameras rolled. Three min later the signs were folded and
put away,awaiting the next photo op. These people who do not need or do
not want jobs are seeing our children exported to places where thry can
find progress and a future.
David Amos
@Wayne Mac Arthur "The shale gas protest lasted as long as the cameras rolled."
Methinks that standard operating procedure for Pam Ross and her COC buddies N'esy Pas?
Methinks that standard operating procedure for Pam Ross and her COC buddies N'esy Pas?
Buford Wilson
Tens of thousands of wells have been fracked in Alberta, the USA and around the world over the past 75 years.
It poses no risk whatever to the environment.
It poses no risk whatever to the environment.
Jim Johnston
@Buford Wilson I have a life
long friend here in NB who has dealt with hazmat for over 30 years.
He's seen and dealt with a lot dangerous stuff if not used, handled and
disposed of properly. He has seen and dealt with the chemicals used in
fracking and is categorically opposed to any fracking in NB, or
anywhere. And he believes that any one else would too, if fracking
companies were forced to list all the chemicals they put into the ground
which they currently hide by stating "competitive advantage"
Fred Brewer
@Buford Wilson
"It poses no risk whatever to the environment."
So of course you have already offered your back yard for a frack site, right?
"It poses no risk whatever to the environment."
So of course you have already offered your back yard for a frack site, right?
Marguerite Deschamps
@Fred Brewer, Buffoon Wilson; it's all in the name.
Marguerite Deschamps
@Fred Brewer, he would even offer his front yard!
Shawn McShane
@Buford Wilson Alberta research shows fracking fluids cause 'significant' harm to fish
It's long been known that chemicals used in fracking are environmentally toxic. "If we do have a spill, what are the concerns they have to worry about?" Alberta has experienced more than 2,500 such spills between 2011 and 2014.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-research-shows-fracking-fluids-cause-significant-harm-to-fish-1.3950539
It's long been known that chemicals used in fracking are environmentally toxic. "If we do have a spill, what are the concerns they have to worry about?" Alberta has experienced more than 2,500 such spills between 2011 and 2014.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-research-shows-fracking-fluids-cause-significant-harm-to-fish-1.3950539
David Stairs
@Shawn McShane this is all in
the way that these incidences are now reported..it's like when Allen
Rock changed the definition on gun crimes...the numbers
skyrocketed..read the reports but also read how they changed to rules to
get their numbers..agin..misleading the public...did you now that
spilling 2 gallons of gasoline at a gas bar has to be reported the same
as a tractor trailor load in the ditch...just less publicity..
Marc Martin
@Marguerite Deschamps
PANB leader must not know what to do now, his voters already are fighting each others !! Popcorn time !!!
PANB leader must not know what to do now, his voters already are fighting each others !! Popcorn time !!!
David Amos
@Marc Martin Methinks you are the one who is confused now that your beloved local liberal leader quit N'esy Pas?
David Amos
@Marguerite Deschamps I repeat cry me a river
Fred Brewer
So where are the plebiscite results? Show me the social license.
David Amos
@Fred Brewer Trust that nobody cares
Harold Benson
Thanks to first nations leading the way on this issue.
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David Amos
@Harold Benson Wrong again Sam Methinks it is rather obvious that its you sneaky COC people as usual N'esy Pas?
@Harold Benson
David Amos
@Harold Benson Thanks for proving my point
Harold Benson
Why is it that people think we need to trash the earth in order to create jobs?
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks Sam should explain his new ID first N'esy Pas?
Paul Bourgoin
@Harold Benson
It is not about trashing the earth or the environment it is about making the RICH RICHER! What a legacy this HIGGS government is deciding to leave our children!
It is not about trashing the earth or the environment it is about making the RICH RICHER! What a legacy this HIGGS government is deciding to leave our children!
David Amos
@Paul Bourgoin I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir
Steve Murray
Same tired old ideas and
rhetoric from a tired old party. Nothing has changed and Fracking is
still environmental and economic suicide. Collapse the government
already and we'll all vote Green. This game of musical chairs with
Liberals and Conservatives every four years is simply not working.
Ian Scott
@Steve Murray and your solution to energy is what, other than complain?
Harold Benson
@Ian Scott You burning NG ?
David Amos
@Harold Benson No doubt you are
David Amos
@Harold Benson Methinks
ySam's computer is powered by some electrons generated by burning
natural gas at Grandview Cogeneration and Plant Bayside Power N'esy Pas?
Steve Murray
@Ian Scott My solution for
lack of a better word is to elect a government that will at least
attempt to move towards renewable energy. I don't know if you have
noticed but mother earth is at a tipping point...she's burning up
Scotty! We need monumental change now. Rise out of the dark ages.
Rosco holt
@Ian Scott
Tidal generation on the bay of Fundy, if only the government didn't give away all the prime tidal real estate to the Empire.
Tidal generation on the bay of Fundy, if only the government didn't give away all the prime tidal real estate to the Empire.
Marc Martin
@Steve Murray
PANB members fighting !! Popcorn time !!!
PANB members fighting !! Popcorn time !!!
David Amos
@Marc Martin methinks you enjoy the Circus as much as I but for all the wrong reasons N'esy Pas?
'Break out the signs': Shale gas foes take to the streets again
Protesters say they're better organized than the last time the province allowed fracking
About
two dozen anti-shale gas protesters waved signs to the beat of a drum
on Thursday outside a Moncton hotel, site of a meeting to discuss
natural gas supplies in the Maritimes.
The Progressive Conservatives, who took charge in the province last Friday, have said efforts will be made to lift a ban on fracking by the end of the year in communities that are open to shale gas.
"We all share the same aquifer," Pamela Ross, chair of the Council of Canadians chapter in Moncton, said as she carried a "No shale gas" protest sign.
Hopefully, this will be the last time that I have to do this kind of protest.- Kenneth Francis, Kopit LodgeProtesters are watching every move of the new government to see how far the reopened issue of fracking will go, Ross said.
"This is just a small showing for now, if push comes to shove, when it comes down to it, we'll be back on the highway, whether it's in Penobsquis or Kent County or anywhere else in this province, people are against it."
Ross said many of the dozens of signs used in the protest are from 2013, when protesters gathered in Rexton to rally against SWN Resources, a shale gas exploration company.
Kenneth Francis was there during the protests of 2013, and he travelled to Moncton from his Elsipogtog home to protest again on Thursday. Francis represents Kopit Lodge, a grassroots Mi'kmaq water preservation and wildlife conservation group based in Elsipogtog.
"Hopefully, this will be the last time that I have to do this kind of protest, because when SWN left, we started to organize but to fight in the boardrooms, and if not in the boardrooms, in the courtroom.
"We don't want to see a repeat of the craziness that happened."
Francis said the First Nation has filed an aboriginal title claim in court.
Inside the hotel and in the conference room, Ray Ritcey, CEO of the Maritime Energy Association, said he respects the rights of protesters but fracking operations in New Brunswick are not a topic of discussion at the meeting.
"We're really trying to find short, mid-term solutions to a gas supply gap that exists today and is only going to increase by Dec. 31 of this year."
Ritcey said he's in favour of lifting the moratorium in New Brunswick, but it would be a long-term solution to bolster natural gas supplies.
When the former Liberal government imposed the moratorium, it said five conditions had to be met before it was lifted: a community approval to extract shale gas; reliable data on health, environmental and water impacts; a plan to dispose of wastewater; proper Indigenous consultations, and a proper structure for the province to collect royalty payments.
Francis said proper consultations have not been done with indigenous communities, adding, "They have no consent from First Nations."
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