RCMP victimized by $100,000 credit card cloning scam TOO TOO FUNNY INDEED

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Methinks that now would be the perfect time to remind the RCMP of Bob Paulson's last published words before he exited stage left N'esy Pas?


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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/rcmps-bob-paulson-sounds-alarm-on-organized-crime-in-exit-interview/article35507580/

RCMP’s Bob Paulson sounds alarm on organized crime in exit interview

David Raymond Amos‏ @DavidRayAmos
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Methinks the Banksters, the RCMP and Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger all know why I was laughing so hard I was choking on my coffee as I listened to CBC"s revelation this morning N'esy Pas?

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RCMP victimized by $100,000 credit card cloning scam

Fraudulent gas card used for months in Montreal area before crime detected

Elizabeth Thompson · CBC News · Posted: Nov 01, 2018 4:00 AM ET

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mo bennett

maybe we should get these guys to investigate adrienne clarkson and her gravy train.

David Amos

@mo bennett YO MO Methinks you should finally read my lawsuit N'esy Pas?

Mike Banton

@David Amos Just what the hell is "Nes'y Pas" it is spelled "Nes't Pas" ! If you are going to butcher a language, stick with English!

Mike Banton

@Mike Banton I'll EVEN Correct myself.. the actual expression spelling is

N'est-ce Pas... nessy pas!

Michael G. L. Geraldson

You just have to wonder what else has been compromised that hasn't been audited yet.

David Amos

@Michael G. L. Geraldson "Aaron Boles, vice-president communications for the Canadian Bankers Association, said new chip technology has resulted in a significant drop in the number of bank cards and credit cards being compromised by criminals."

Methinks the Banksters, the RCMP and Mr Prime ?inister Trudeau the Younger all know why I was laughing so hard I was choking on my coffee this morning N'esy Pas?

Gabriel Matte

Classic Union shop. If it's not my job then it's somebody elses job. And if there's nobody with that job description then guess what nobody will do it.

Seriously... 2 full years without an audit on staff credit cards??? Wow that is lazy.

Ralph Smyth

@Gabriel Matte
RCMP isn't yet unionized there genius, and even if it were, this is entirely on some out of scope manager/bean counter not doing their job.

David Amos

@Ralph Smyth "this is entirely on some out of scope manager/bean counter not doing their job."

Methinks the buck stops in the Commissioners Office I have no doubt whatsoever that this this is just one of the many reasons is why Bob Paulson got out while the getting was good last year Clearly the liberals knew everything. Why else would they slip this nonsense into the annual Public Accounts in Parliament instead of RCMP channels N'esy Pas?

Caren Roy

Now that's embarrassing!!

David Amos

@Caren Roy Nope Its incredibly comical

 
James Holden

Wow.
They should have caught the discrepancy far earlier.

David Amos

@James Holden Dream on

 
Jane Beagle

"Eventually when we audited the card we realized that the card had been defrauded and we opened an investigation."

Eventually being the key word. One full year before they audited the card...that seems unacceptable to me.

David Amos

@Jane Beagle Methinks everybody should ask why the delay EH?

  





Peter Boone

Cue old Ralph Goodale to tell us all that we have nothing to worry about yet again.

Pete Maurer

@Peter Boone
Ralph Goodale is pathetic

Aaron Morris

@Peter Boone

The police should just tell themselves that this is a civil matter and there's nothing they can do.

David Amos

@Peter Boone Methinks we should the old lawyer Goodale and his boss mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger what entity that is very powerful in Montreal has the where with all to run such a scam on the RCMP and get away with it N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Aaron Morris "The police should just tell themselves that this is a civil matter and there's nothing they can do."

Methinks a lot of Feds and Ralph Goodale above all know that is exactly what the RCMP told me in 2004 when I gave them many original wiretap tapes of the Mafia. That is just one of the may reasons why I sued the Queen in 2015 N'esy Pas?

Pete Maurer

Is it just me or does the RCMP seem to be rather incompetent.

Clayton Delaney

@Pete Maurer

It's just you.

 

Annie Moffatt

@Pete Maurer - It's you. This particular situation with the credit cards should have been picked up by the bank holding the card. That's been my experience and I can't figure out what happened here. It's not the RCMP, it's the bank.

David Amos

@Pete Maurer "Is it just me or does the RCMP seem to be rather incompetent"

Methinks everybody knows that I have been making it my business to prove that obvious fact since my former friends in the RCMP attacked me in 1982 N'esy Pas?

David Amos

@Annie Moffatt "It's not the RCMP, it's the bank."

ITS BOTH

  

 

Ivan Nozinski

The obvious question is: who was doing the monthly credit card reconciliation? If so, that person is incompetent, but perhaps no one was doing that job due to cut backs in personnel ?????

David Amos 

@David Amos Methinks that now would be the perfect time to remind the RCMP of Bob Paulson's last published words before he exited stage left N'esy Pas?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/rcmps-bob-paulson-sounds-alarm-on-organized-crime-in-exit-interview/article35507580/

"Without being a fear monger, we've got to have political leaders understand what organized crime is, how [the perpetrators] get their advantage, how they corrupt individuals and institutions, how they get their hooks into people."

Justin Thyme

Such an easy fix, too.

Every car has a computer terminal in it.

Every time the car is filled up, enter the details via the terminal into an app.

The bill comes in, reconcile the two immediately.

Except that the police union would probably object to the oversight

Lily O'Loughlin

@Justin Thyme
You can get a receipt at the gas station when you fill up, no need to have a computer terminal in the car.

Alex Sobieski

@Lily O'Loughlin

LOL - good point Lily. LOL @ JT talk about trying to confuse a simple situation. Believe it or not, expenses used to be tracked before computers...ha ha ha eyes roll. JT is obviously a young-en

James Conn Dean

@Alex Sobieski ...what part did you two miss of”every car has and has had a computer" for years now"

David Amos

@James Conn Dean Trust that I didn't

David Amos 

@James Conn Dean However not one of the RCMP vehicles the were torched in Kent County had a computer or even a spare tire Go Figure why they would not tell anything way back when the liberal Premier Gallant sat in opposition.

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Andrew Hebda (NS)

The problem was identified, rectified, and charges will follow. Is that not how a problem is to be dealt with?... and yet the majority of the posts are jeering and ridiculing the organization... Keep in mind, it could just as easily been anyone else.

This has to do with crime and criminals.... but somehow that is ignored for purposes of "cheap shots"

Michael MacKenzie

@Andrew Hebda (NS) Nonsense! Chip cards have been in use in Canada since 2008. Why on earth would the RCMP being still using antiquated technology in 2018? Despite what you state, it could not have been anyone else since virtually everyone in Canada uses a chip & PIN credit card.

Roy Nicholl

@Michael MacKenzie wrote:
"Why on earth would the RCMP be still using antiquated technology in 2018?"

The answer to that could be that their credit card is a "fleet" fuel card. Most, if not all, fleet fuel cards (issued by the petrol companies or third-party fleet companies) are not EMV cards and have no cryptographic protection making them relatively easy to "skim".

Pete Maurer

@Michael MacKenzie

It does depend on what type of credit card they use. Bank cards are chip yes but gasoline credit cards like Petro Canada are not. That said the RCMP should have been able to catch this much sooner. Poor monitoring and investigation skills

Clayton Delaney

@Michael MacKenzie As Roy Nicholl states - The majority corporations that use credit cards for gas purchases use fleet cards which - because of their nature and use - require a signature rather than a PIN.

Jim Palmer

@Andrew Hebda (NS)

"..... Keep in mind, it could just as easily been anyone else"

Ah, no; just about everyone else follows the basic 'Accounting 101' principle of matching 'invoice' to monthly 'statement' before payment.
The RCMP blew it (and our tax dollars along with it).

Michael MacKenzie

@Pete Maurer Thanks for the info.

Michael MacKenzie

@Roy Nicholl Thanks for the info.

Michael MacKenzie

@Clayton Delaney Thanks for the info.

David Amos

@Michael MacKenzie Way back in the 1980s when the RCMP and I were buddies they knew I owned a gas station which had what might have been the first key lock pump in Canada Research the fact that solved the problem of Fleet's being ripped off byway of VERY old tech.

RCMP’s Bob Paulson sounds alarm on organized crime in exit interview

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson poses for a portrait in a 1956 RCMP Ford highway patrol car June 28, 2017 in Ottawa. Dave Chan/The Globe and Mail 

Laura Stone

OTTAWA

Published June 29, 2017 Updated June 30, 2017

 

Canada's top cop – a police commander known for his hard stand on terrorism investigations – is heading for the exit gates saying that organized crime is the biggest threat facing Canadians.

While Bob Paulson, the exiting RCMP Commissioner, acknowledged the possibility of Islamic State-inspired attacks is now an ever-present reality in Canada, he said such national security risks are "significantly less" of a threat than organized crime.

"It's something that we're going to have to turn our minds to, and when I say we, I mean everybody," Mr. Paulson, who retires on Friday after 32 years in policing, said in an exclusive exit interview with The Globe and Mail.

Related: RCMP at a crossroads: Who will lead the charge in an age of sophisticated crime?

"Without being a fear monger, we've got to have political leaders understand what organized crime is, how [the perpetrators] get their advantage, how they corrupt individuals and institutions, how they get their hooks into people."

Mr. Paulson said the national police force has noticed a resurgence in outlaw motorcycle gangs, such as the Hells Angels, across Canada. Mr. Paulson himself is on the record saying he almost depleted the supply of federal detectives specializing in Mafia and biker-gang investigations to national-security squads following the 2014 slayings of Canadian soldiers near Parliament Hill in Ottawa and in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Que.

"National security gets Canadians worried, right? But I think, objectively, the risk is significantly less of impacting a Canadian than is organized crime in terms of … its corrupting potential in politics, its pervasiveness across all areas of commerce," he said.

While Mr. Paulson said Islamic State terrorism remains a "viable, inspiring movement," he said he had not been briefed on any "active threats" for Canada Day festivities on Parliament Hill.

His replacement has yet to be named. The Liberal government announced on Thursday that former ambassador and premier Frank McKenna will chair the selection committee and make recommendations to Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale. In the meantime, Daniel Dubeau, the force's most senior deputy commissioner, will become interim commissioner.

Mr. Paulson, who turns 59 in September, believes the next leader should be a Mountie.

"I think it should be a cop from inside the organization," he said. "But nobody's asking me."

Sitting in the atrium of the RCMP headquarters in Ottawa's southwest a few days before his retirement, Mr. Paulson appeared unafraid to speak to his mind about his 5 1/2 years as commissioner of the 30,000-person force.

"It's a soul-destroying job," he said.

Mr. Paulson discussed the challenges he faced at the helm of a force that he contends is unfairly politicized.

"A government is arguably vulnerable to our conduct. And so many people see paths to the government through the organization, and that makes it very difficult."

He also spoke about the deaths of three RCMP officers, murdered by gunman Justin Bourque in June, 2014, in Moncton.

The RCMP is facing four labour-code charges relating to the deaths of the officers, with one RCMP corporal telling the media last week that he considers Mr. Paulson "personally responsible for the deaths of my friends."

The criticism came after Mr. Paulson testified at the trial that RCMP management had concerns about the possible militarization of the force as it prepared to arm officers with high-powered carbine rifles.

"I am accountable for the death of those officers," Mr. Paulson said. "There's only one person responsible for their death. And he was charged and convicted of three counts of murder.

"I didn't kill these people."

Mr. Paulson said it's "speculative, at best" to suggest the officers would have survived if they'd been armed with high-powered carbine rifles. He said the real issue is community-based policing, going so far as to suggest that tragedy may have been averted had the officers in the Moncton detachment known their community better.

"We ought to have known who Bourque was; we ought to have known what he was doing; we ought to have been positioned to be able to intercede before he came out of his trailer," he said.

Mr. Paulson questioned whether the Mounties should be prosecuted under the Labour Code at all.

"I have views about … the public interest being served by this. But I mean, that's okay. We charge people all the time. I'm sure they feel the same way."

He also shared his opinion about the government's plan to legalize marijuana, calling it "very enlightened"; the Mike Duffy investigation, which he said created a "salutary effect" on the Senate; and The Globe's Unfounded investigation, which he said changes the approach to sexual-assault victims.

"The challenge for our investigators is to stop having judgment [of the victims]," Mr. Paulson said. "We don't care that you have strong feelings about how much risk someone exposed themselves to. That's not your job."

He said he supports the push for significant changes to the structure of the force, including better labour representation for members and the move to put trained civilians in key operational roles.

"Being a police officer, a basic police officer, it's not that complicated," Mr. Paulson said. "Being a successful part of a team that's doing police work, that's a little more complicated."

Calling it a privilege and honour to have served with the RCMP, Mr. Paulson said: "It's a great, great place. By and large, the people are extraordinary. They do extraordinary work."

He gave himself a mark of 70 per cent for what he set out to do but admits he's "come up short" on cultural change. "I say in fairness to everybody in the force – that's generational," he said. "So maybe I'd give myself 10 extra points there up to 80, because it started."

Mr. Paulson came into the job at what he calls a "terrible time" – the height of the so-called harassment scandal.

Last October, he made a historic apology – one he says he wrote himself – to thousands of female members for the way they were treated for decades by the national police force. He also announced a $100-million settlement for two class-action lawsuits.

"I was always, always committed to making it right. But not just by saying it. It took us two years to get our act together, to make sure we had a good understanding of the full scope and scale of what we were talking about," he said.

But he pushes back on some characterizations of the issue. "There was not a systemic problem of sexual harassment in the RCMP. There were some terrible, public, disgraceful, embarrassing cases, and lawsuits, and that's all true," he said.

When asked why it took until 2016 to make the apology, Mr. Paulson said, "You think it's easy getting $100-million out of the government?"

Mr. Paulson said he has met with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau a couple of times to discuss the challenges facing the force and what the government plans to do about it. He calls Mr. Trudeau "very impressive."

"I think you underestimate him at your peril," Mr. Paulson said.

He said the Prime Minister has shown himself to be a proponent of the force. "As he said to me once, 'You don't forget commissioner – you guys raised me,'" Mr. Paulson said, referring to Mr. Trudeau's upbringing as the son of a prime minister.

"I think this government has expressed pretty clearly that they want to be supportive of the RCMP, that they want the RCMP to succeed, and I take them at their word."

But Mr. Paulson himself won't be around to see it.

The father of four children – including a 31-year-old daughter who is a Crown prosecutor in British Columbia, and a three-year-old son – said it is time to make way for new blood in the organization.

"I think it needs a bounce," he said.

"I wish I was the fresh commissioner coming in now, with all the things that are in place."

With a report from Colin Freeze

RCMP victimized by $100,000 credit card cloning scam

Fraudulent gas card used for months in Montreal area before crime detected

Elizabeth Thompson · CBC News · Posted: Nov 01, 2018 4:00 AM ET

RCMP have changed their procedures after crooks cloned one of the force's gas credit cards. (CBC)

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police has changed the way it handles credit cards for gasoline purchases after it fell victim to organized criminals and the fraud went undetected for months.

By the time the RCMP realized one of its gas cards had been cloned, the crooks had racked up $104,555 in purchases.

The force may not be the only victim.

"The way that cloning works, it could be hundreds of people whose information was cloned also," said Sergeant Camille Habel, spokeswoman for the RCMP's Quebec division.

The credit card company absorbed $14,555 of the charges — the amount the force was able to identify within the period provided in its agreement with the company. It hopes to recover another $9,930.

However, the force admits it is unlikely to recover the remaining $80,070.

Habel said investigators have determined that the crime was the work of an organized group. They have identified suspects and are consulting Crown prosecutors on charges.

The revelation that the RCMP had been defrauded was included in the annual Public Accounts tabled recently in Parliament.

Habel said it all began in the summer of 2016.

RCMP Sgt. Camille Habel said hundreds of others could have been hit by the same criminals. (CBC)

"Sometime in the summer of 2016, one of the credit cards that the RCMP uses to purchase gas at gas stations was cloned. Eventually when we audited the card we realized that the card had been defrauded and we opened an investigation."

The cards require a driver's code but don't have chip technology.

Habel said the purchases — mostly gasoline — were made in the Greater Montreal area.

Unlike personal credit cards, the bills for the RCMP's gas acquisition cards don't go to individual officers. There's also no predictable pattern when it comes to how often a car or acquisition card will be used, which made it harder for the people who handle the bills to spot the fraudsters until the card was routinely audited.

"For sure there was a delay between the time the card was cloned and the suspects started using the card and when we discovered that it was actually happening."

While Habel would not say when exactly the RCMP discovered the gas card had been cloned, losses are usually supposed to be reported in the Public Accounts in the year they are detected. That would put the discovery somewhere between April 1, 2017 and March 31, 2018.

The crooks racked up $104,555 in gas purchases in the Greater Montreal area before the RCMP discovered the fraud. (Jonathan Hayward/Canadian Press)

Habel said the RCMP has already made changes to avoid falling victim to a similar scheme.

"We reviewed our auditing system and the details that we look for every month, so now we audit more often in a different way and we're also working with the credit card company to see if there are ways that fraudulent purchases like that can be spotted faster and quicker so if it falls on a month that we didn't audit that we would get a signal from the company telling us that there were some transactions that are different or that are not similar to what we usually do."

Aaron Boles, vice-president communications for the Canadian Bankers Association, said new chip technology has resulted in a significant drop in the number of bank cards and credit cards being compromised by criminals.

"Skimming a card and cloning the magnetic strip is no longer a widespread problem in the Canadian market since the implementation of chip and PIN," he said. "This type of occurrence is at an all-time low."

The Financial Consumer Agency of Canada said it received 106 complaints last year about credit card fraud.

Elizabeth Thompson can be reached at elizabeth.thompson@cbc.ca

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