David Raymond Amos@DavidRayAmos
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Methinks throughout this long hot summer for politicians north and
south of the 49th the crooked corporate media dudes are gonna have a
hard time keeping up with the ethical people in social media N'esy Pas?
Brunswick News blocked from publishing leaked document, agrees to binding consent order
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David Amos Methinks anyone with two clues between their ears would find the following truly ridiculous N'esy Pas?
"Friday's court filings took place mere hours before Brunswick News's
flagship newspaper, the Telegraph-Journal, won the Michener Award, the
top Canadian prize for public-service journalism.
At the award ceremony Friday night, Metcalfe said without journalism,
"secrecy would be rampant. Truth, trust, transparency would be scant."
Heather Michon
Reply to @David Amos: Irving owns the Telegraph Journal.
Johnny
Horton
Reply to @Heather Michon:
Then feel free to start your own media and newspaper company, we live in Canada, where you can do whatever you want,
David Amos
Reply to @Heather Michon: Everybody knows
Harold Benson
Reply to @Johnny
Horton: So I can start selling milk, eggs, bedding plants, chicken and
all that stuff under the corporate welfare program known as supply
management for whatever price I want? I don't think so. So in that
regard, corporations have MORE rights that a human being.
David Amos "In
its application to the court, the government said it wanted publication
blocked "to prevent damage to the legitimate public interest … and to
the private interests of commercial entities."
Yea Right
Ray Bungay
Reply to @David Amos:
And people wonder why I have a total mis-trust of governments and
politicians. They can do and say what they want but the free press and
media can not! Really sad I think!
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Ray Bungay:
I don’t see you publicly stating your finances and taxes. I don’t see why any business should have to.
Ronald Parker
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Maybe the one that reap from NBers should.
Heather Michon
Reply to @David Amos: And to keep the public from finding out what's really going on.
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Heather Michon:
Who cares? I’ve got s roof over my head and food on the table. Everyone
else can do whatever they want, it is a free country after all.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Bungay: Methinks many would agree that a free press is a myth N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Seulement "in this place" no?
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Nope
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Pardonnez. ESPECIALEMENT "in this place"!
Greg Smith New Brunswick is controlled by Mr. Irving, and Blaine is just the latest puppet. He should have his strings cut over this.
Johnny
Horton Reply to @Greg Smith:
Did you even read the story! Higgs STOPPED Irving from publishing,
Joe Campbell
Reply to @Johnny
Horton: I am sure Irving went to Mr.Higgs to tell him what was going to
be published and to put a stop to it. This way the Irving's do not look
like the bag guys for not running the story.
Greg Smith
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Yes of course I read it. This information should've been published, that's my point.
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Greg Smith:
Why? By Canadian law a business is an entity, just like a person and is
entitled to the same rights, you don’t need to reveal your proprietary
information, then business shouldn’t have to either, by our LAWS.
Greg Smith
Reply to @Johnny
Horton: I’ll just wait for you to explain why crown corporations like NB
Power(ie: taxpayer owned) should be exempted from reporting to the
public. All public corporations post their financial results at least
annually, but often quarterly. You’re confusing laws that apply to
private citizens with those that apply to public companies. This being
said, the province publishes gross wages earned by all NB physicians,
who in most cases own their private practices. In this case it’s because
they bill through Medicare; also taxpayer funded. All I’m stating is
there needs to be consistency in the reporting standards. At the moment
there is not.
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith: NB Power is not audited
Greg Smith
Reply to @David Amos: Except by the AG every regime change.
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith:
Nope the AG has no funding to do such a thing. Methinks the lady doth
protest too much in light of the fact that she knows the awful truth of
it all and never mentions it. I bet many politicians would agree in
private that she is just protecting her own job security N'esy Pas?
Greg Smith I
must admit I don't fully understand the ramifications of this leak and
newspaper story; however, I do find it interesting that the paper
publishing the story is owned by the Irving Group. Higgs has done a
great job of bobbing and weaving so far and I hope he can continue;
however, something bothers me about secrecy especially when it comes to
"taxes".
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Greg Miller:
I agree in regards to secrecy and taxes. So how much do you pay in taxes?
Joe Campbell
Reply to @Johnny Horton: To much, my last pay the government took 33%. That does not include my CPP or EI.
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Miller: "I must admit I don't fully understand the ramifications of this leak and newspaper story"
Methinks many would agree that its an effort to make Higgs and the
Irving Clan appear to be at odds and yet both are ethical N'esy Pas?
Joe Campbell Of course, transparency at it's best!
David Amos
Reply to @Joe
Campbell: Methinks they trying to make it appear that way but its just
another smoke and mirror show at the circus N'esy Pas?
Bobby Burke Notice
the Fredericton Police are investigating the 'theft' of papers! ...
Will they be investigating the loss of more billions of dollars, the
government needs just to pay the "Interest" on the debt?
David Amos
Reply to @Bobby Burke: Methinks the Fredericton police should investigate why they stole my Harley N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: ....and sent the swat team in on Chucky the helmet scofflaw?
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks Mr Higgs and his Minister of Justice can take up that issue with their buddy Chucky N'esy Pas?
Bobby Burke I'll bet the News(?) Papers are chomping at the bit, to run with this story!
David Amos
Reply to @Bobby Burke: Methinks doth jest just enough N'esy Pas?
JJ Carrier I smell Jamie Irving on this, not Jim Irving...
Bobby Burke
Reply to @JJ Carrier:
I think there is enough 'Smell' around here that it could be the whole
family, & who knows how many there are now. Just like the Royal
family, when another one is born, it's just another mouth to feed, &
they don't eat bread & molasses.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Bobby Burke: more like caviar!
JJ Carrier
Reply to @Bobby
Burke: Jamie has dropped the ball on the whole BNI operation...Methinks
you should Google for the CBC stories dating back to the late 2000s on
his mental hernias in relation to the company...Jim is just a
figurehead, while Jamie has ruined all the community newspapers under
his control...In the words of NFL Films, he thinks he's Al Davis
JJ Carrier
Reply to @Bobby
Burke: Dig deeper is what I'm saying...Ask around...Talk to former
employees, including the fired photog in Moncton who helped catch the
RCMP killer, Larry's Gulch, stealing ext from the LN, the destruction of
his sports department, The Toronto Star rejects who came in, etc etc
JJ Carrier
Reply to @Bobby
Burke: The poor job on his website, the firing of longtime editorial
writers, remote copy editing, a bad Cloud, yada yada yada
Johnny Horton
Reply to @JJ Carrier:
I don’t smell any Irving, I smell the government and B.B. power not wanting numbers out there so they can raise rates more,
David Amos
Reply to @Bobby
Burke: Methinks everybody knows the real scoop on the Irving Clan most
are just afraid to talk about it with their real names N'esy Pas?
Miles Gahan I
bet we will be told how much more we will have to pay to cover the
Trudeau tax these business have to pay though. Good chance for them to
increase our costs and increase their profits!
David Amos
Reply to @Miles Gahan: Of course
Ray Bungay Big business and the courts stomping on our rights to information yet once again. Do you smell what's cooking folks!
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Ray Bungay:
By CNadian Law s bsuiness is an entity and entitled to the same rights
as an individual. If you hav3a problem with our laws and constitution
take that up with the Supreme Court.
Bobby Burke
Reply to @Johnny Horton: OMG, I knew it was bad, but this is just,...?????????
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Bungay:
Methinks maybe if news like this continues more folks will listen to me
during the next election N'esy Pas?
Johnny
Horton As usual, everyone taking the opportunity to ***** out the Irving’s.
Harold Benson
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Rightly so
Johnny
Horton
Reply to @Harold Benson:
No. Not rightly so. Have some bloody ethics, instead of just railing
alwsys no matter what is done. The Irving’s could pay off our debt and
pave all our driveways gold and everyone would still *****,
Always gotta tear down those more successful,
Bobby Burke
Reply to @Johnny
Horton: Yes Johnny, too bad they didn't have some way to protect
themselves, like buy some News(?) Papers, radio stations, TV stations.
Then they could not only omit things, but also promote themselves, like
Thursday, June 13th, paper B3, ....an exact copy of Wednesdays B3! &
guess what, Jim getting a ports award. First time in my life I've
seen two dates in the same day.
Greg Smith
Reply to @Johnny Horton: You work for Irving, we get it.
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Greg Smith:
Hardly, never have,haven’t even ever had a contract with any of their divisions.
I used to be a bleeding heart luv, then I woke up and now I’m s die hard
libertarian. Everyone for themselves. No government bubble wrapping.
No group ganging up to get stuff like unions.
Each person makes their own life and their own value.
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith: "You work for Irving, we get it. "
I got that long ago
Harold Benson
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Like they're gonna do that. Stop dreaming
Harold Benson
Reply to @Johnny Horton: How come you are so obsessed with that outfit? You work there?
Johnny Horton The release of this dats, does far more damage to NB power and thus the government, than it ever would to the zirvings,
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Yea Right
Chantal LeBouthi the government said it wanted publication blocked "to prevent damage to the legitimate public interests
—————————————————
You already did
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: True
Heather Michon And
Higgs is at it again, using the court system to implement his
dictatorial agenda and keep the public in the dark. Controlling the
press is integral in creating a dictatorship. I'm just waiting for him
to say the press is the enemy of the people.
Johnny Horton
Reply to @Heather Michon:
Gee seems to me thst if the courts support Higgs, then zhiggs is followin* the laws.
David Amos
Reply to @Heather Michon: YUP
Bobby Burke The "Gift" that keeps on giving!
David Amos
Reply to @Bobby Burke: Welcome to the Circus
Al Clark The Irving guy using courts to prevent the irving paper from reporting on Irving. Is this what an acid trip is like???
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: This is real life Surprise Surprise Surprise
Johnny Horton A
business law course should be mandatory to every high school student.
Thenmaybe finally posters around here will understand what s business is
and what rights it has under the law,
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny Horton: Cry me a river
Greg Smith Reply
to @Johnny Horton: Public companies are obligated to report their
financial results. Crown corporations such as NB Power, funded with
taxpayer dollars, are effectively owned by tax paying New Brunswickers,
and as such should share the same obligation as every other public
company. Without this obligation, you'll continue to see entities like
NB Liquor employ creative accounting tricks to embezzle taxpayer
dollars.
Harold Benson
Reply to @Johnny Horton: And what laws need to change.
Paul Bourgoin New
Brunswickers know who owns the Province, who runs it, who pays taxes,
and those who don't and then there is Higgs and his three party
leadership. Moe, Curly and Larry!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Better than the " no leadership ' we had in the previous government
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Methinks the 3 stooges make the circus very entertaining N'esy Pas?
Paul Bourgoin
Reply to @Lou Bell: And the the one before! and the other one before that and on and on!
Shawn
McWilliams So much for freedom of the press :(
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn
McWilliams: Methinks you enjoy a little l enlightenment byway of
Hollywood Citizen Kane 1941, Network (1976) and last but not the least
Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984) N'esy Pas?
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Brunswick News blocked from publishing leaked document, agrees to
binding consent order
The document includes details of its industrial carbon-tax policy not
released publicly
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Jun 17, 2019 6:31 PM AT
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Bobby Burke:
Notice the Fredericton Police are investigating the 'theft' of papers!
... Will they be investigating the loss of more billions of dollars,
the government needs just to pay the "Interest" on the debt?
David Amos:
Reply to @Bobby Burke: Methinks the Fredericton police should
investigate why they stole my Harley N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: ....and sent the swat team in on Chucky the
helmet scofflaw?
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks Mr Higgs and his Minister of Justice can
take up that issue with their buddy Chucky N'esy Pas?
Brunswick News blocked from publishing leaked document, agrees to binding consent order
The document includes details of its industrial carbon-tax policy not released publicly
Brunswick News owns about a dozen newspapers in the province, including the Telegraph Journal and the Times & Transcript. (Gabrielle Fahmy)
The Higgs government went to court last
week to block a provincial newspaper chain from publishing information
from a leaked cabinet document, including financial details about New
Brunswick's biggest emitters of carbon dioxide.
The province
wanted to prevent Brunswick News from reporting on the document, which
includes details of its industrial carbon-tax policy not released
publicly.
Justice Judy Clendening of the Court of Queen's Bench granted a temporary injunction Friday, according to public court filings.
But
Monday morning, the province and the newspaper company agreed to a
binding consent order in the case. The order hasn't been filed publicly
yet so it's not clear if the newspaper can publish more stories.
In
its application to the court, the government said it wanted publication
blocked "to prevent damage to the legitimate public interest … and to
the private interests of commercial entities."
Environment
Minister Jeff Carr said in an affidavit that the clerk of the executive
council told him that the Fredericton city police are investigating
what he calls "the theft" of the document. (CBC)
Environment
Minister Jeff Carr said in an affidavit the document contains
"proprietary commercial information of many different private sector
companies operating within the Province."
The industrial carbon
tax, if accepted by Ottawa, would apply to the Irving Oil refinery and
several large forestry mills in the province, including some owned by
J.D. Irving Ltd.
J.D. Irving's co-CEO, Jim Irving, is also listed as the president of Brunswick News.
Jim Irving, J.D. Irving’s co-CEO, is also the president of Brunswick News. (CBC)
Carr
said in his affidavit that the clerk of the executive council,
Jean-Marc Dupuis, told him that the Fredericton city police are
investigating what he calls "the theft" of the document.
Brunswick News editor-in-chief Wendy Metcalfe did not respond to a request for a comment.
The
newspapers published a first story based on the document on June 12,
focusing on how the Progressive Conservative's industrial carbon tax
would affect NB Power's bottom line, including rates charged to
customers.
The online version of the story included a detailed
table showing the financial impact on the utility.
Carr's affidavit
said a reporter showed him the table before the story ran and he
recognized it came from an addendum to a June 5 memorandum to executive
council.
An online version of a story based on the leaked cabinet document was published on June 12. (Submitted)
Those
confidential memos contain detailed information that ministers use when
they formally approve legislation, regulations and policies.
The
day after the initial story, Carr held a previously scheduled news
conference about the industrial carbon price. A PowerPoint presentation
for journalists did not include the detailed cost figures from the table
published by the newspaper.
In its application, the province
asked the court to not only stop the newspaper from publishing more
stories but also order it to "destroy any copies" of the document.
Clendening's interim order from Friday blocked publication but did not order the destruction of the document.
The
province's application said photos of the documents were taken by
someone on an iPhone and sent to the newspaper. It said provincial
editor Adam Huras told Carr that the newspaper planned to publish more
stories about them.
That would "constitute intentional
interference in business relations between [the province] and the
commercial entities referred to in the said privileged/stolen
documents," Carr's affidavit said.
Friday's court filings took
place mere hours before Brunswick News's flagship newspaper, the
Telegraph-Journal, won the Michener Award, the top Canadian prize for
public-service journalism.
At the award ceremony Friday night,
Metcalfe said without journalism, "secrecy would be rampant. Truth,
trust, transparency would be scant."
Jacques
Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New Brunswick
since 2000. Raised in Moncton, he also produces the CBC political
podcast Spin Reduxit.
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