David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks everybody knows everything between the government and the Treaty Chiefs is always about the money. Anyone can ask TJ Burke or Jake Stewart or boatloads of lawyers if you don't believe me N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/06/mikmaq-chiefs-blindsided-by-pc-plan-to.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/pc-govermenment-continues-defend-shale-gas-decision-1.5165460
Round Three
Minister says First Nations consultation only required after shale gas exemption approved
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David Amos
Surprise Surprise Surprise
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: "Stewart did not speak to reporters Thursday"
Methinks Jake will never be reelected now PANB must be dancing a jig in their backroom N'esy Pas?
Methinks Jake will never be reelected now PANB must be dancing a jig in their backroom N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks whatever Kevin Arseneau has to say quite simply does not
matter because nobody knows where the former SANB boss stands on any
issue he just goes which ever why he figures the red herring is not for
his benefit. I heard through the grapevine that he worked for SWN at
one time. Whether he did or not some folks will never forget that the
liberals did not want him running for them. There had to be a reason
N'esy Pas?
Fred
Sanford
Reply to @David Amos: You forgot you stu pid tag line!
David Amos
Reply to @Fred
Sanford: Methinks you faked your last heart attack years ago It was
stupid of you to quit pushing up daisies just as they start fracking
again N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks Jakey would be the perfect leader for COR and thinks so
himself. naysay paw Talking to yourself?
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you forgot to say hey to your buddy Fred N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Well I remember the last time Fred said he was takin the big one. People thought he was just joking ;-)
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark:
Methinks everybody knows Redd Foxx wasn't joking about his older brother
Fred Sanford who died in 1965. That happens to be the same year my
Panhead that the Fat Fred City Finest stole from me was built. Trust
that I ain't joking about suing the cops to get my Harley back.
Obviously feature that old bike for a reason in my Twitter account as I
Tweet about your malicious nonsense N'esy Pas?
Rosco Holt
Why not consult before wasting time getting the exemption?
What happens if the FIrst Nations don't approve?
Last I heard only the municipality is interested, the surrounding communities not so much. Has I feared government will play dirty to get fracking done, when those who are directly impacted and not interested are ignored.
David Amos
Reply to @Rosco holt: Methinks it should prove interesting as to whose riding gets to keep the waste water N'esy Pas?
Dennis Atchison
The communication dysfunction continues. How about we take the European legal notion of "consultation" out … and replace it with manners. It is good manners to treat citizens and neighbours with respect before the decision is made … actually it is best to include people in the decision.
Buddy Best
Reply to @Dennis
Atchison: You are thinking "democracy" aren't you? Foolish thought. It
no longer exists. Blank check policy on being elected. It needs to
stop!!!!!
Alexandre Hilton
Reply to @Buddy Best: so judging by your avatar, you would prefer socialism? Let me guess - you're under 25 years old.
Buddy Best
Reply to @Alexandre Hilton: Yes I do prefer socialism 100%. Power to the people. BTW you are off by decades.
James Reed
Reply to @Dennis
Atchison: You do realize that that a definition "duty to consult"
doesn't appear in the constitution, it is a construct of a Supreme Court
decision based on the principal of "honor of the crown"... In the SC
ruling outlining the "duty to consult" they based the decision on
requiring the Crown to act honorably in regards to First Nations people.
What exactly the duty to consult looks like is not clearing stated
anywhere is legislation, that's why it's more often than not decided by
courts.
David Amos
Reply to @Dennis
Atchison: Methinks after all these years and running in six elections
even you must admit that I have every right to consider whatever an ex
union dude who claims to be a "facilitator for complex issues and
systems" says about anything to be Pure D BS N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @James Reed: True I must say it is comical to me to see "honor of the crown" I would write it "Honour of the Crown" Do you live south of the Medicine Line?
Roland Godin
A very basic information session, on the essence of a law and its objects as a script of a collectivity’s Ways, may help give politicians the minimum basic skills needed to legislate with rigour, rationality, insight, foresight, discernment and accountability...et voilà.
James Reed
Reply to @Roland
Godin: Except there is no law that dictates what duty to consult means -
successive governments have not wanted to to touch the issue so in the
legislative vacuum that has resulted it has been left to the courts to
decide on a case by case basis. What is clear, as reiterated by the
Supreme Court every time a case on the duty to consult comes before
them, a duty to consult does not mean a veto - "Section 35 guarantees a
process, not a result"... there is an obligation to have a process in
place, but there is no veto and consent for a project is not required.
This is different from the the United Nations Declaration of the Rights
of Indigenous Peoples, which Canada has said it is going to adhere to -
it requires consent.
Here are some other ruling on Duty to Consult, as issues by SCC:
Canada's lawmakers do not have a duty to consult with Indigenous people before introducing legislation that might affect constitutionally protected Indigenous and treaty rights, the Supreme Court ruled. The majority of the court ruled there is no binding constitutional duty to consult before a law is passed.
Passing a law saying Shale Gas exploration is legal, no requirement to consult.
Approving a shale gas development under that law - that's a consulting.
Here are some other ruling on Duty to Consult, as issues by SCC:
Canada's lawmakers do not have a duty to consult with Indigenous people before introducing legislation that might affect constitutionally protected Indigenous and treaty rights, the Supreme Court ruled. The majority of the court ruled there is no binding constitutional duty to consult before a law is passed.
Passing a law saying Shale Gas exploration is legal, no requirement to consult.
Approving a shale gas development under that law - that's a consulting.
David Amos
Reply to @James Reed:
True However that is not exactly the situation down here. I can tell
you know the law but you do not write like a lawyer Hence I suspect you
are an ethical law student who is concerned about the rights of his
people correct?
Roy Kirk
Consult, consider, decide, or consider, decide, consult. Which makes more sense?
James Reed
Reply to @Roy Kirk:
Except there is zero obligation or requirement to consult on legislation
- this has been affirmed by the Supreme Court as recently as 2017. The
province can pas a law that says exploration for natural gas is legal
all they want... duty to consult kicks in during the approval process.
Saying you explore for natural gas doesn't require consultation, but
actually exploring does. It doesn't make any sense to consult prior to
creating the legislation because you would have to go throw the entire
process again during the project approval process. If there was a
requirement to consult on legislation the province would have to do that
for every budget bill.
Roy Kirk
Reply to @James Reed: What legislation? This is an order in council, I think.
James Reed
Reply to @Roy Kirk:
The moratorium was introduced as an amendment to the Oil and Natural Gas
Act. Orders in council can be legislative in nature, forming part of
the law and enforceable by the courts.... these legislative orders are
made under authority expressly conferred by the act (the act has to
allow for it). I haven't looked up how the amendment to the act was
written, but it must allow for the moratorium to be lifted by order in
council and not necessarily by amendment introduced in the house.
Roy Kirk
Reply to @James Reed: So consider, decide, consult is legal. But how is it more sensible than consult, consider, decide?
David Amos
Reply to @James Reed: Seek and ye shall find
Office of the Premier
Government introduces moratorium on hydraulic fracturing in New Brunswick
18 December 2014
FREDERICTON (GNB) – The provincial government has introduced a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing in the province, following through on its commitment to New Brunswickers.
“Creating jobs is our government’s top priority but we need to do this in a responsible and sustainable way. Today our government is bringing forward legislation to proceed with a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing activity in New Brunswick, as we committed to doing in Moving New Brunswick Forward,” said Premier Brian Gallant. “We have been clear from day one that we will impose a moratorium until risks to the environment, health and water are understood.”
Energy and Mines Minister Donald Arseneault will introduce an amendment to the Oil and Natural Gas Act that will allow government to prohibit hydraulic fracturing activity. The moratorium will not be lifted unless more information is gathered and certain conditions are addressed.
Office of the Premier
Government introduces moratorium on hydraulic fracturing in New Brunswick
18 December 2014
FREDERICTON (GNB) – The provincial government has introduced a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing in the province, following through on its commitment to New Brunswickers.
“Creating jobs is our government’s top priority but we need to do this in a responsible and sustainable way. Today our government is bringing forward legislation to proceed with a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing activity in New Brunswick, as we committed to doing in Moving New Brunswick Forward,” said Premier Brian Gallant. “We have been clear from day one that we will impose a moratorium until risks to the environment, health and water are understood.”
Energy and Mines Minister Donald Arseneault will introduce an amendment to the Oil and Natural Gas Act that will allow government to prohibit hydraulic fracturing activity. The moratorium will not be lifted unless more information is gathered and certain conditions are addressed.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
“Our conditions focus on five key areas where more information needs to be gathered and more work needs to be done,” said Gallant. “The moratorium will not be lifted unless we are satisfied that these conditions have been met.”
Gallant outlined the following conditions. The moratorium will not be lifted unless there is:
· A social license in place;
· Clear and credible information about the impacts of hydraulic fracturing on our health, environment and water, allowing us to develop country-leading regulatory regime with sufficient enforcement capabilities;
· A plan that mitigates the impacts on our public infrastructure and that addresses issues such as waste water disposal;
· A process in place to respect our obligations under the duty to consult with First Nations;
· A mechanism in place to ensure that benefits are maximized for New Brunswickers, including the development of a proper royalty structure.
“We are not interested in putting all our eggs in a single basket, so we are actively and diligently pursuing several job creation opportunities for our province,” said Arseneault. “We will continue to take a safe and responsible approach to energy and natural resources opportunities while diversifying New Brunswick’s economy.”
Gallant also reiterated the government’s commitment to natural resource development and energy projects, such as the Energy East Pipeline, the conversion of the Canaport LNG terminal and the Sisson mine.
“These projects have great potential to move the province forward and ensure a strong economic future,” added Gallant. “These projects will advance the provincial government’s key priority of job creation.
“Our conditions focus on five key areas where more information needs to be gathered and more work needs to be done,” said Gallant. “The moratorium will not be lifted unless we are satisfied that these conditions have been met.”
Gallant outlined the following conditions. The moratorium will not be lifted unless there is:
· A social license in place;
· Clear and credible information about the impacts of hydraulic fracturing on our health, environment and water, allowing us to develop country-leading regulatory regime with sufficient enforcement capabilities;
· A plan that mitigates the impacts on our public infrastructure and that addresses issues such as waste water disposal;
· A process in place to respect our obligations under the duty to consult with First Nations;
· A mechanism in place to ensure that benefits are maximized for New Brunswickers, including the development of a proper royalty structure.
“We are not interested in putting all our eggs in a single basket, so we are actively and diligently pursuing several job creation opportunities for our province,” said Arseneault. “We will continue to take a safe and responsible approach to energy and natural resources opportunities while diversifying New Brunswick’s economy.”
Gallant also reiterated the government’s commitment to natural resource development and energy projects, such as the Energy East Pipeline, the conversion of the Canaport LNG terminal and the Sisson mine.
“These projects have great potential to move the province forward and ensure a strong economic future,” added Gallant. “These projects will advance the provincial government’s key priority of job creation.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
Backgrounder
What exactly does ‘moratorium’ mean in this context?
The moratorium is a cessation and prohibition of all types of hydraulic fracturing throughout New Brunswick.
Does the moratorium amount to an outright ban?
No, the moratorium is a temporary cessation and prohibition of all types of hydraulic fracturing in New Brunswick.
How will the moratorium be implemented?
The amendment to the Oil and Natural Gas Act will allow the government to proceed with prohibiting hydraulic fracturing activity from taking place in the province.
How can the moratorium be lifted?
The moratorium will not be lifted unless we are satisfied that five conditions have been met.
What are the conditions and what is the rationale for each?
Backgrounder
What exactly does ‘moratorium’ mean in this context?
The moratorium is a cessation and prohibition of all types of hydraulic fracturing throughout New Brunswick.
Does the moratorium amount to an outright ban?
No, the moratorium is a temporary cessation and prohibition of all types of hydraulic fracturing in New Brunswick.
How will the moratorium be implemented?
The amendment to the Oil and Natural Gas Act will allow the government to proceed with prohibiting hydraulic fracturing activity from taking place in the province.
How can the moratorium be lifted?
The moratorium will not be lifted unless we are satisfied that five conditions have been met.
What are the conditions and what is the rationale for each?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: The moratorium will not be lifted unless there is:
· A social license;
This will be sought through extensive consultation and engagement exercises with New Brunswickers in order to achieve social acceptance.
· Clear and credible information;
This will permit us to compile clear and credible information about the impacts of hydraulic fracturing on our health, environment and water in order to better inform our decision, allowing us to develop a country leading regulatory regime with sufficient enforcement capabilities.
· An infrastructure Plan;
This analysis and planning will enable us to mitigate potential impacts on our public assets and address other related issues such as the disposal of waste water.
· Proper consultations with First Nations;
This exercise would have to ensure that we are fulfilling the crown’s obligations under the duty to consult.
· Maximized benefits
There would need to be clear benefits for New Brunswickers to proceed.
Does this moratorium make a distinction between hydraulic fracturing with propane and water?
Although there are some differences between hydraulic fracturing with propane and hydraulic fracturing with water, the moratorium applies to hydraulic fracturing by any means.
· A social license;
This will be sought through extensive consultation and engagement exercises with New Brunswickers in order to achieve social acceptance.
· Clear and credible information;
This will permit us to compile clear and credible information about the impacts of hydraulic fracturing on our health, environment and water in order to better inform our decision, allowing us to develop a country leading regulatory regime with sufficient enforcement capabilities.
· An infrastructure Plan;
This analysis and planning will enable us to mitigate potential impacts on our public assets and address other related issues such as the disposal of waste water.
· Proper consultations with First Nations;
This exercise would have to ensure that we are fulfilling the crown’s obligations under the duty to consult.
· Maximized benefits
There would need to be clear benefits for New Brunswickers to proceed.
Does this moratorium make a distinction between hydraulic fracturing with propane and water?
Although there are some differences between hydraulic fracturing with propane and hydraulic fracturing with water, the moratorium applies to hydraulic fracturing by any means.
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Is this moratorium regional?
No.
What will happen to current leases and operations?
Current agreements will remain in place, but all hydraulic fracturing will be prohibited for the duration of the moratorium.
When will the moratorium take effect?
The moratorium will be effective when the changes to the Oil and Natural Gas Act are proclaimed in the legislative assembly.
How long will it be in effect?
The goal is to gather adequate information to better inform our decisions as a province. The moratorium will not be lifted unless we are satisfied that our five conditions are met.
What are other jurisdictions in our region doing?
There is currently a moratorium in place in Quebec, and in Newfoundland and Labrador. An onshore ban is in place in Nova Scotia.
Many other jurisdictions around the world have moratoriums or bans in place, including the recent of addition of New York State this past week.
No.
What will happen to current leases and operations?
Current agreements will remain in place, but all hydraulic fracturing will be prohibited for the duration of the moratorium.
When will the moratorium take effect?
The moratorium will be effective when the changes to the Oil and Natural Gas Act are proclaimed in the legislative assembly.
How long will it be in effect?
The goal is to gather adequate information to better inform our decisions as a province. The moratorium will not be lifted unless we are satisfied that our five conditions are met.
What are other jurisdictions in our region doing?
There is currently a moratorium in place in Quebec, and in Newfoundland and Labrador. An onshore ban is in place in Nova Scotia.
Many other jurisdictions around the world have moratoriums or bans in place, including the recent of addition of New York State this past week.
James Reed
As an aboriginal person (status Indian) it"s frustrating at times that there is so much misinformation and misunderstanding out there - I'm not a cheerleader for natural gas exploration by any means - but it would be nice if indigenous and non- indigenous people had a little better understanding of our rights and government's obligations. Obviously someone in the Minster's office briefed him on how and when duty to consult kicks in - he's right on point with the latest supreme court decision in that regard... This from the October 2018 decision - Canada's lawmakers do not have a duty to consult with Indigenous people before introducing legislation that might affect constitutionally protected Indigenous and treaty rights, the Supreme Court ruled. The majority of the court ruled there is no binding constitutional duty to consult before a law is passed. Once it's passed, any action that cabinet might take acting on that legislation that might have an impact on indigenous rights would require consultation. the simple act of passing legislation does not require consultation. I'm not even sure, was this even passing legislation, was the moratorium a law or simply some regulation?
David Amos
Reply to @James Reed:
"I'm not even sure, was this even passing legislation, was the
moratorium a law or simply some regulation?"
Neither Perhaps we should talk?
Neither Perhaps we should talk?
Lou Bell
We know what " common sense " means to Mr. Arseneau , so don't expect any to be brought to his attention
Evelyn Gaudreau
Reply to @Lou Bell: We know what " common sense " means to the Higgs-Austin team , so we don't expect any.
Greg Smith
Reply to @Lou Bell: Is it just me or are you actively trying to set a record for most downvotes in CBC history?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Greg Smith: Actually , it's you ! My upvotes outnumber my downvotes 4 to 1 !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Who Cares?
Lou Bell
Guess the Greens and Liberals had no clue on this one ! Their own Feds made the law and it still whistled by their ears !!!
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Harper sure had a clue! He was rebuked by the Supreme Court of Canada
most of the time. The CONservatives are known to ignore the law. Higgs
is no better.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: This sure must irk you and Marc. Another Liberal blunder !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Haven't seen anything from you and Marc on the latest
employment figures for NB !!! Had lots to say last month !!! So sad !!!
They're GRRRRREAAATTTTT !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you have no clue as to why I call this article Round 3 nor do you care N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: If it's like most others where you make it all about you , NO I DON'T CARE
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Schwoosh ! Right by your ears !
Harold Benson
Glad to see the minister is looking after the concerns of the people his ministry represents.
David Amos
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Reply to @Harold Benson: Methinks thou doth jest too much while my comments go "Poof" N'esy Pas?
Roy Kirk
How much has the province collected in royalties/payments on past gas production and how much will it collect in the future? 1$ per GJ or 20% of the selling price, whichever is greater, is the minimum we should take. And it should be paid quarterly, so the carpet baggers can't fold their tent and leave us hanging after long periods of production.
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk:
Methinks a lot folks should recall my friend Janey Matheson (Aka Olddawn
in CBC) Anyway she explained such things long ago and nobody cared. I
don't thinks its proper to steal her thunder when one can still find her
words on the internet N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/royalty-regime-may-be-changed-after-revenues-fall-short-1.2893788
Olddawn
PCS is gearing up to take 2 million tonnes a year up from 800,000. “Ceasing production at our Penobsquis, NB facility at the end of the first quarter 2014, which will allow us to accelerate development activities at our Picadilly mine.” http://www.potashcorp.com/mobile/news/1782/
If that potash and salt or any other mineral was in Quebec they would be collecting between 12% to 16% as royalty and the takers would be paying corporate income tax. They would be taking expenses out of royalties under a F.O.B. mask. (p. 12) http://www.finances.gouv.qc.ca/documents/Communiques/en/COMEN_20110915-ann.pdf
The exception to that royalty scheme In Quebec is natural gas. The royalty on natural gas is 35% when price is over $10mmbtu and Corridor's presale contract is for $US11.74mmbtu for half of base production.
http://www.corridor.ca/documents/PRK-AGM-2014.pdf
http://www.budget.finances.gouv.qc.ca/Budget/2011-2012/en/documents/Schisteen.pdf
Why are giving our mineral wealth away-- look what was happening here when the mine was announced. https://www.cim.org/en/Publications-and-Technical-Resources/Publications/CIM-Magazine/Dec07-Jan08/coast-to-coast/New-Brunswick.aspx
Plus, there is "No known substitutes for potash:, http://uoinvestmentgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/POT-Update.pdf
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/royalty-regime-may-be-changed-after-revenues-fall-short-1.2893788
Olddawn
PCS is gearing up to take 2 million tonnes a year up from 800,000. “Ceasing production at our Penobsquis, NB facility at the end of the first quarter 2014, which will allow us to accelerate development activities at our Picadilly mine.” http://www.potashcorp.com/mobile/news/1782/
If that potash and salt or any other mineral was in Quebec they would be collecting between 12% to 16% as royalty and the takers would be paying corporate income tax. They would be taking expenses out of royalties under a F.O.B. mask. (p. 12) http://www.finances.gouv.qc.ca/documents/Communiques/en/COMEN_20110915-ann.pdf
The exception to that royalty scheme In Quebec is natural gas. The royalty on natural gas is 35% when price is over $10mmbtu and Corridor's presale contract is for $US11.74mmbtu for half of base production.
http://www.corridor.ca/documents/PRK-AGM-2014.pdf
http://www.budget.finances.gouv.qc.ca/Budget/2011-2012/en/documents/Schisteen.pdf
Why are giving our mineral wealth away-- look what was happening here when the mine was announced. https://www.cim.org/en/Publications-and-Technical-Resources/Publications/CIM-Magazine/Dec07-Jan08/coast-to-coast/New-Brunswick.aspx
Plus, there is "No known substitutes for potash:, http://uoinvestmentgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/POT-Update.pdf
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Correction I hope the ghost of my friend Janet Matheson RIP is smiling about now
David Amos
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Deja Vu anyone? Methinks I must be fair to all even my corrupt foes or I would be a bad as they are. The public record of CBC and the newrags owned by the Irving Clan clearly shows that nobody was blindsided. It an irrefutable fact that Higgs and Northrup were yapping up a storm about firing up fracking in the Sussex area months before the writ was dropped for the last election. Everybody knew it and have been whining about it ever since. This is just more Fake News as the Yankee wacko named Trump loves to say N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos:
John Smith "im curious as to why the eel ground chief is commenting on sussex area wouldnt big cove chief had been closer and had a stronger base to comment from"
Reply to @john smith: Methinks everybody knows everything political is always about the money. The liberals and the big Chiefs are hooked at the hip when it comes to that Ask TJ Burke and his relations if you don't believe me. Anyway I noticed the aforementioned dudes pull the same sort of thing in 2006 when I intervened the NEB Hearing in Saint John about the Emera Pipeline Project as they laid claim to the land The Liberals and the Big Chiefs exited stage left from the hearing as soon as Bernie Lord lost the election and Harper was still in power It ain't Rocket Science to understand why if you follow the money like I do N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Me thinks Mr Higgs and his buddy Dominic Cardy must recall that years ago the leader of the Green Party who can't be named in CBC stated something that everybody knows is true N'esy Pas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tipHN1HAHI8
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 47 others
YO @SeanFineGlobe Do ya read CBC? Methinks we should call this Round 2 of a long battle In the "Mean" time the Green Meanies should ask their MLA and MP why I run for public office in the Sussex area N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/06/mikmaq-chiefs-blindsided-by-pc-plan-to.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/mi-kmaq-chief-blindsided-pc-plan-shale-gas-1.5163703
Round Two
Mi'kmaq chiefs 'blindsided' by PC plan to allow shale gas development in Sussex area
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David Amos
Methinks everybody knows how much I love a circus N'esy Pas?
Daryl Doucette
It is too bad our vast shale gas resources could not be developed safely and with New Brunswick coffers receiving the billions of dollars it would produce. But sadly, we here in Canada give away most of our natural resources to huge corporations and the government gets a mere pittance in royalties. Norway has it right. They keep up to 90 % of revenues from their gas/oil reserves.
Irv Millar
Reply to @daryl doucette: Well said. FN come first. They are the holders of the treaty.
David Amos
Reply to @daryl
doucette: Methinks we should call this Round Two of a long battle In
the "Mean" time the Green Meanies should ask their MLA and MP why I run
for public office in the Sussex area N'esy Pas?
These are quotes from the Kings County Record in June of 2004
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat."
These are quotes from the Kings County Record in June of 2004
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat."
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
"Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"
"Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"
David Amos
Methinks I must be fair to all even my corrupt foes or I would be a bad as they are. The public record of CBC and the newrags owned by the Irving Clan clearly shows that nobody was blindsided. It an irrefutable fact tat Higgs and Northrup were yapping up a storm about firing up fracking in the Sussex area months before the writ was dropped for the last election. Everybody knew it and have been whining about it ever since. This is just more Fake News as the Yankee wacko named Trump loves to say N'esy Pas?
John Smith
Reply to @David Amos: im curious as to why the eel ground chief is commenting on sussex area wouldnt big cove chief had been closer and had a stronger base to comment from
David Amos
Reply to @john smith:
Methinks everybody knows everything political is always about the money.
The liberals and the big Chiefs are hooked at the hip when it comes to
that Ask TJ Burke and his relations if you don't believe me. Anyway I
noticed the aforementioned dudes pull the same sort of thing in 2006
when I intervened the NEB Hearing in Saint John about the Emera Pipeline
Project as they laid claim to the land The Liberals and the Big Chiefs
exited stage left from the hearing as soon as Bernie Lord lost the
election and Harper was still in power It ain't Rocket Science to
understand why if you follow the money like I do N'esy Pas?
Johnny Horton
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I’m not really pro fracking, but I am certainly anti-NIMBY and anti hypocrisy of crying over oil and environment while showing up at protests in 4x4 monster trucks.
Marguerite Deschamps
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Reply to @Johnny Horton: that is so true. Îf you want to talk the talk, you must also walk the talk.
Reply to @Johnny Horton: that is so true. Îf you want to talk the talk, you must also walk the talk.
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should stand by your own words instead of merely using words i have employed recently N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you should stand by your own words instead of merely using words i have employed recently N'esy Pas?
Marguerite
Deschamps
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Reply to @David Amos: never read these from you. And you never invented this adage either.
Reply to @David Amos: never read these from you. And you never invented this adage either.
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks you know as well as I that I never said I did but I
did use those words in 2004 and again a couple of days ago. Justin
Trudeau or his lawyer buddies Ralph Goodale and Frank McKenna or anyone
else can review page 20 of this old file N'esy Pas? https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks it would have been more ethical of you to admit that you suffered from a Freudian slip but now you are too late N'esy Pas?
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks it would have been more ethical of you to admit that you suffered from a Freudian slip but now you are too late N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks you know why my first reply was "Content disabled"
so I will blog it for you.to review N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Oh, oh. More protests ! Why don't their signs just say " NB , the have not province. Closed for business " !! Can't make much money and look after the people from runnin' through the woods and then complaining all the time
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks its strange that you think its cool for your beloved nurses to
protest about wanting Higgs to spend more money N'esy Pas?
Aaron Allison
Let's hold a Referendum or put a question on the ballot about Fracking. Time to put a end this BS.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Aaron Allison: the majority has been against it every time there was a public opinion poll.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: A" public opinion poll " ? Where , and by whom ? The people
protesting polling their own ! That's not a poll. That's a scam .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks even you are not sure what side of the fence you are on Hence
you must be a PANB spin doctor N'esy Pas?
Roland Godin
Basic ego-nomics 101 dig further in the hole to get out of the hole...et voilà.
David Amos
Reply to @Roland
Godin: Methinks anyone with common sense prefers the logic of Ludwig von
Mises to that of the Bankster's hero Johnny "Never Been Good" Keynes
N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Oh, oh. More protests ! Why don't their signs just say " NB , the have not province. Closed for business " !! Can't make much money and look after the people from runnin' through the woods and then complaining all the time .
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks its strange that you think its cool for your beloved nurses to
protest about wanting Higgs to spend more money N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Guess people will have to quit notchin' them Maple trees looking for birds eye Maple and killing them and go back to protestin'
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou Bell:
better the First Nations get the bird's eye maples than the big
corporations. I've been shown in many areas of the provinces tons and
tons of wood rotting in piles left there by big corporations.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: OH MY MY Methinks you just gave me a clue as to who you are N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Make it tough for your skidooing ???
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Lou Bell: I have never owner a snowmobile in my life, one an offroad vehicle.
Marguerite Deschamps
I have never owned a snowmobile in my life, nor an offroad vehicle.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks we all know that you are not that kind of guy N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks the nine Mi'kmaq chiefs should ask Judge Richard Bell, or many lawyers such as Graydon Nicholas, Anne McLellan, Ralph Goodale, Frank McKenna, William Amos, Don Amos, David McGuinty, Dominic Leblanc, Brian Gallant, Lenny Hoyt, Mike Murphy, Brian Murphy, Bob Rae, Paul Martin, TJ Burke and Kelly Lamrock to name but a few why I ran against their fellow liberal Andy Scott for his seat in the 39th Parliament N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks some Mi'kmaq chiefs need to sell their Cadillac Escalades then have something to say.
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos:
Methinks you should tell us how many votes you got ! I got almost as
many as you every time you ran , and i didn't even run !!! You're a
legend in your own mind , and NO ONE ELSES !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Nobody has heard of Lou Bell Who are you really?
Johnny
Horton
Reply to @David Amos:
Me thinks we aren’t all egomaniacs thst need the public spotlight and traipse our names around everywhere.
Me thinks we aren’t all egomaniacs thst need the public spotlight and traipse our names around everywhere.
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny
Horton: Methinks the real reason you people are anonymous in cyberspace
is because you don't wish to be held accountable for your libel in the
real world N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @Johnny
Horton: Methinks the lawyers I have named above know I mean what I say
and say what I mean if they don't like it they may feel free to sue me
about anything they think is untrue because unlike you I stand by my
words with my true name N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: got to give the devil his dues!
Jake Newman
hopefully Higgs opens up the whole prov for this.
David Amos
Reply to @Jake Newman: Yea right Methinks you are just having fun picking a fight N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
The Supreme Court of Canada was clear that First Nations must be consulted before projects like these are undertaken. Like Harper and most other CONservatives, the elusive Higgs Bozon has nothing but contempt for the highest court in the land. They act like outlaws.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you have been talking to the mindless SANB lawyers again N'esy Pas?
Daryl Doucette
Reply to @David Amos: And the SANB has nothing but contempt for unilingual New Brunswickers.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @daryl
doucette: I don't know about the SANB, am no part of it. As for me, I
have nothing but pity for unilingual New Brunswickers, be they
Anplophones or Francophones.
Marguerite Deschamps
You are quite
handicapped in this world if you can only speak one language and that is
the case for most North American Anglophones.. It's so easy to blow
your own horn over the internet that you speak Mandarin, Spanish, German
or whatnot. I sure would like to hear how these languages come out of
their mouth!
David Amos
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Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you are very handicapped in the real world if you cannot afford to use your real name as you spew your BS in cyberspace on behalf of SANB in whatever language comes out of your mouth N'esy Pas?
Frederick Graham
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: I have pity for New Brunswickers that don't know what a Higgs 'boson' is, regardless of language.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: "It's so easy to blow your own horn over the internet that
you speak Mandarin, Spanish, German or whatnot."
Methinks you forgot that you are the one who does that N'esy Pas?
Marguerite
DeschampsMethinks you forgot that you are the one who does that N'esy Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: everyone here knows you are the King when it comes to that.
Jake Devries
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: as the Supremes said, "consult" is not a veto...
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks everybody knows that I only speak English and Chiac
It is you who brags of having a command of so many foreign tongues N'esy
Pas?
Reply to @David Amos: you cannot even speak Chiac properly.
Paul Bourgoin
Trumpism reaches New Brunswick Politics!
Jake Newman
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: oh good lord---talk about a lame comment
David Amos
Reply to @Jake Newman: Methinks you have nothing to brag about N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Jake Newman: talk about a great comment!
Paul Bourgoin
Who does Higgs represent?
Who will benefit from such a secret and crafty move?
Higgs, with his three Party Conservatives, can’t force such a move on the New Brunswick public that He does not represent.
Who will benefit from such a secret and crafty move?
Higgs, with his three Party Conservatives, can’t force such a move on the New Brunswick public that He does not represent.
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: "Who does Higgs represent?"
Us
Us
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Shawn Graham dad. They flock together like vultures on a dead pony.
David Amos
Reply to @Paul Bourgoin: Or is it the US?
Irv Millar
Vote them out.
David Amos
Reply to @Irv Millar: YUP but who do you vote in then?
Shawn McShane
Reply to @David Amos: Merlin and King Arthur
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: not you, that's for sure!
Michel Jones
Nothing in the article says why shale gas production shouldn't be allowed!! Aren't we open to fair questions about prosperity or the real dangers, not percieved ones of shale gas development? Does anybody against shale gas development ever considered how we got to have comfortable homes that are kept warm in the winter, schools, clinics, hospitals.. Consultations are often a nice way to say it ain't gonna get done.
Irv Millar
Reply to @Michel
Jones: Yes. Let us fracture the earth to allow gases to escape. Never
mind the flames coming out of your water taps. It'll keep us warm in
winter. Absolutely disgusting and tone deaf.
Michel
Jones
Reply to @Irv Millar: What's tone deaf about having a debate about fair questions and real or peceived dangers?
Irv Millar
Reply to @Michel Jones: That is your greatest concern. Quibbling over words while the disrespect has been lit anew?
Bob Smith
Reply to @Irv Millar:
Ahh, the rhetoric of the anti-gas crowd...bringing up discredited
imagery and talk to cower the uninformed locals. Funny, though...how is
it that our neighbor to the south, the US, has managed to extensively
frack for resources without your doomsday visions coming to pass?
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Jones: "Nothing in the article says why shale gas production shouldn't be allowed!!"
Methins Mr Higgs and hi cohorts know that I have been saying for years that we should leave the shale gas alone until the price goes up and we are offered a decent royalty for it N'esy Pas?
Methins Mr Higgs and hi cohorts know that I have been saying for years that we should leave the shale gas alone until the price goes up and we are offered a decent royalty for it N'esy Pas?
Daryl Doucette
Reply to @David Amos:
That mindset is the problem with us. We should not be " offered"
anything. WE should be TELLING them here is what you get, this is what
WE get. Have a nice day.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Michel
Jones: The debate is over except in the minds of fracking proponents who
continue to play smoke and mirrors and make hush payments to those who
have been harmed by fracking.
Jake Devries
Reply to @Irv Millar: debunked...
Jake Devries
Reply to @Irv Millar: debunked...
David Amos
Reply to @daryl doucette: Methinks everybody knows the term "offered" is an expression used within the art of making a deal Only strange Yankee dudes like Trump try to bully the people he dealing with and it only seems to work with Trudeau N'esy Pas?
Round One
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/higgs-shale-gas-go-ahead-sussex-1.5162253
PCs give shale gas development quiet go-ahead in Sussex area
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Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
How
many times was my name on a ballot in the Sussex area while CBC ignored
me and most folks just laughed at me? Methinks he who laughs last laughs
best N'esy Pas? These are some of my word quoted by the Kings County Record in 2004
"Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window."
David Amos
Methinks Mr Higgs and his buddies Chunky Leblanc, Dominic Cardy, Mikey Holland. the Irving Clan, Corridor Resources and many Green Meanies know how many times I ran against Rob Moore, Bruce Northrup and Ed Doherty N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
The Irving Agenda is never far from the Premier's mind.
Brad Little
Reply to @Fred Brewer: What does this have to do with Irving?
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Oh so true
Lou Bell
Nice to see we're back in the resource based business and not the protesting business. How much money do those protests produce again ? Oh . sorry, they drive job seekers to other provinces to do the same jobs we could have here if we quit cowtowing to SMALL the vocal minorities!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me a river
Lou Bell
Getting
the job done the Liberal /SANB's couldn't !! Great job !! Next , Sisson
Brook ! Another job the Liberals COULDN'T FINISH !!! But they were
gonna WASTE 110 million on the phonie games !!!
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Yea Right
Mario
Doucet
These jobs are not bilingual civil service, can't be true.
Al Clark
Reply to @Mario Doucet: Yeah, like 95+% of jobs in NB. Shhhh don't tell COR!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Mario
Doucet: Actually , they're jobs that require people for WHAT THEY KNOW ,
and not just 2nd rate bilingual ones .
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
Marian
Langhus
And,
where is the water coming from for the high volume fracks? It takes
20,000 cubic meters to frack wells like they are proposing.
David Amos
Reply to @Marian
Langhus: Methinks folks should ask where are they going to get rid of
their waste water after the fracking is done N'esy Pas?
Marian
Langhus
What solution did they come up with for the waste water?
Al Clark
Reply to @Marian Langhus: Put it in a pond in Debert and hope a heavy rain bursts it's wall.....
Al Clark
Reply to @Al Clark: Actually NS put the kibosh on importing frack waste so maybe they'll just dump it in a brook.
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks the Green Meanies will be watching them closely to make certain that isn't dome N'esy Pas?
McKenzie King
About time someone decided to make some progressive moves for the province.
David Amos
Reply to @McKenzie King: Dream on the Irving Clan wants the cheap gas tis all.
Marc
Martin
A
lot of posters here are hilarious !!! thinking this will create 10 000 /
200 000$ jobs rofl. if the research is successful it will provide a few
100 jobs for a few years and royalties. We all saw how CoRservatives
negociated royalties regarding the forests....
Rob Franklin
Reply to @Marc
Martin: If they create 10 000/ 200 000$ , in a town of a population of
around 4,000 people total, it should be interesting to watch the mess
unfold.
Rob Franklin
Reply to @Rob Franklin: sorry maybe I misunderstood the 10 000. I assume you meant 10 000 jobs.......
Marc
Martin
Reply to @Rob
Franklin: 10 000 jobs with a salary of 200 000$ ...I was just pointing
what some people think will happen with Shale Gaz.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marc
Martin: You and Maggie are the only 2 who seem to think it'll create
that many jobs ! Keep spinning though ! You make your statements less
believable every day ! Now you're down to zero !
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marc Martin: Show us ONE EXAMPLE !!!!!
Lou Bell
Reply to @Marc Martin: The only one being laughed at are you and Maggie with all your false figures . Trumpers do the same !!
David Amos
Reply to @Marc
Martin: Methinks you don't have the first clue about whats going on in
Sussex but you sure yap a lot like you know it all N'esy Pas?
Joe Campbell
This
so sad, he is not doing things in a transparent way. Than again should I
be shocked! Really what government ever did anything to better the
province? If I was a resident of Sussex I would be so upset. I am New
Brunswicker that does not live near Sussex and I am PO!
Lou Bell:
Reply to @Joe
Campbell: People of Sussex voted in a person who supported this !
Perhaps you should have run and seen how that worked out !
Robert Buck
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Yes a candidate that could not answer any questions at the debate
because he did not have the information because he "was not in
Government". Typical politician avoid the question at all costs
David Amos
Reply to @Joe Campbell: Methinks you should ask your MLA and you MP why I run for public office in the Sussex area N'esy Pas?
These are quotes from the Kings County Record in June of 2004
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat."
These are quotes from the Kings County Record in June of 2004
Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd
By Erin Hatfield
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."
The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.
The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat."
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Continued
"Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"
"Amos has no intention of actively campaigning.
"I didn’t appreciate it when they (politicians) pounded on my door interrupting my dinner," he said. "If people are interested, they can call me. I’m not going to drive my opinions down their throats."
And he has no campaign budget, nor does he want one.
"I won’t take any donations," he said. "Just try to give me some. It’s not about money. It goes against what I’m fighting about."
What he’s fighting for is the discussion of issues – tainted blood, the exploitation of the Maritimes’ gas and oil reserves and NAFTA, to name a few.
"The political issues in the Maritimes involve the three Fs – fishing, farming and forestry, but they forget foreign issues," he said. "I’m death on NAFTA, the back room deals and free trade. I say chuck it (NAFTA) out the window.
NAFTA is the North American Free Trade Agreement which allows an easier flow of goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico.
Amos disagrees with the idea that a vote for him is a wasted vote.
"There are no wasted votes," he said. "I want people like me, especially young people, to pay attention and exercise their right. Don’t necessarily vote for me, but vote."
Although…if you’re going to vote anyway, Amos would be happy to have your X by his name.
"I want people to go into that voting booth, see my name, laugh and say, ‘what the hell.’"
Buddy Best
Reply to @Joe Campbell: If they can do it in Sussex you could be next!!!
Joe Campbell
Reply to @Buddy Best: I am fully aware that our community could be next.
Buddy Best
Reply to @Lou Bell:
That is our problem in a nut shell. "Well you voted for them" And that
gives them the blank check to do what ever they so please for their term
in power. Is that really the way a democracy is suppose to work. For
the people by the people? We shirk our responsibility by allowing this
to happen. Bad with any good!!!
How about what is good for the majority not just the well off funders.
How about what is good for the majority not just the well off funders.
Joe Campbell
Reply to @David Amos: I love reading your post.
David Amos
Reply to @Joe Campbell: Thanks
Minister says First Nations consultation only required after shale gas exemption approved
PC cabinet approved Sussex-area exemption in province-wide moratorium
But he said there was no requirement to start formal consultations until the cabinet order was approved. That happened at the end of May.
"There was a moratorium in place on this industry, so it wasn't even really worth talking about," he said. "I mean, how can you move forward with an industry when there's a moratorium?"
Oppositions says government failed
The previous Liberal government imposed the province-wide moratorium on fracking after winning the 2014 election, a campaign dominated by the shale gas issue.
Last December, the Progressive Conservatives won a confidence vote in the legislature on their throne speech, which included a section on exempting the area around Sussex from the moratorium.
Corridor Resources started extracting gas in the Sussex area since 1999 but halted new fracking after the Liberal government of Brian Gallant imposed its moratorium after the 2014 election. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
That's where Corridor Resources has been extracting natural gas since 1999. The company halted all new fracking after the Liberal moratorium was imposed. The PCs say there's a potential $70 million investment for the area if Corridor can resume fracking in 2021.
But opposition parties and Mi'kmaq chiefs are warning that the government may already have failed to fulfill its legal obligations.
…Consultation is being treated as a 'check mark' in the list of things to do, rather than building an actual relationship."
The Liberals pointed to a 2010 Supreme Court of Canada ruling, one of many that has helped establish the legal "duty to consult" Indigenous people on resource projects.
"The duty to consult arises when the Crown has knowledge, real or constructive, of the potential existence of the Aboriginal right or title and contemplates conduct that might adversely affect it," the court said at the time.
Interpretation different for PCs and Opposition
Stewart did not speak to reporters Thursday, but Premier Blaine Higgs said he interpreted the duty to consult as beginning "when we know that we're actually going to do something."
Premier Blaine Higgs said he interpreted the duty to consult as beginning 'when we know that we’re actually going to do something.' (Radio-Canada)
But the premier also said that, based on discussion he has had, the requirement is "really vague" with no clear timelines or milestones.
"I was shocked by how undefined it is and I'm really working to change that," he said.
The Sussex area falls within the approximately one-third of the province claimed by Mi'kmaq people in recently launched Aboriginal title discussions with the federal government.
Green Party MLA Kevin Arseneau said he has been told by some Wolastoqi people that it also falls within their traditional area and they should be consulted as well.
Green MLA Kevin Arseneau's said if the law wasn't clear, then PCs should have erred on the side of consultations before making the cabinet order. (Radio-Canada)
Arseneau said if the law is not clear, the PCs should have erred on the side of consultations before making the cabinet order.
He said: "It's always better to go too early than too late."
Mi'kmaq chiefs 'blindsided' by PC plan to allow shale gas development in Sussex area
'This is not an issue that's going to come down to a Yes or No answer,' says energy minister
Anti-shale gas activists and Mi'kmaq
chiefs are warning the Higgs government to prepare for another fight
over fracking, now that a moratorium on the practice is being lifted in
one part of the province.
The Progressive Conservative government is also facing questions about whether it has fulfilled its legal obligation to consult First Nations communities, who oppose the practice.
"As the rest of the world is moving one way, New Brunswick is moving the other," said Jim Emberger of the New Brunswick Anti-Shale Gas Alliance.
"On that basis if nothing else, there are many reason to suspect that this could be challenged in many ways," he said, pointing out the group took the Alward government to court on the issue and has kept in touch with its lawyers.
Jim
Emberger of the New Brunswick Anti-Shale Gas Alliance says Higgs's plan
to allow shale gas development will be challenged. (Jacques
Poitras/CBC)
"Watch this space. …The possibilities are there for sure."
"The
premier must remember the Crown has a duty to consult, and to seek our
consent to development in our territory," Chief George Ginnish of
Natoaganeg First Nation said in the statement.
He added that Mi'kmaq should have been consulted when the government "was just considering" lifting the moratorium.
The fierce reaction led PC Energy and Resource Development Minister Mike Holland to call for calm.
Energy Minister Mike Holland has called for calm over reaction to the PC government's plan to allow shale gas development in the Sussex area. (CBC)
He portrayed the regulatory change as just one of "a number of steps" in the process, including Indigenous consultation he is promising to do.
"Let's just let the temperature down here," he told reporters. "This is a long-term project. Nobody's doing anything knee-jerk."
Holland said $70 million in new investment is possible in the area, but that no development is likely before 2021.
Premier
Blaine Higgs revealed Tuesday his government had quietly passed
regulatory changes in May that will allow shale gas development to
resume in the Sussex area. (CBC)
Higgs revealed the regulatory change in a scrum with reporters Tuesday. He said the order-in-council exempting an area near Sussex from the fracking moratorium had been approved by the cabinet sometime in May.
The order-in-council, normally a public document, wasn't available on the government's website Wednesday.
"There remain a few procedural aspects that need to be completed," said spokesperson Tyler Campbell in a statement. "Once those are completed, we'll be able to release them publicly."
The previous Liberal government established the moratorium province-wide after winning the 2014 election.
Last fall, Higgs's minority government won a vote on its throne speech endorsing a limited lifting of the moratorium in the area near Sussex, where Corridor Resources has been extracting natural gas since 1999.
Corridor halted fracking new wells when the moratorium was put in place.
Holland said Wednesday the area covered by the exemption is limited to around Penobsquis and Picadilly, and it does not extend as far as Turtle Creek and Albert County near Moncton, as the Liberals warned it would.
Even so, it falls within the one-third of the province now the subject of Aboriginal title discussions between the federal government and Elsipogtog First Nation.
Holland said he's hoping for "a very interactive exchange of information" with Mi'kmaq leaders and believes he can accommodate them.
"This is not an issue that's going to come down to a yes or no answer," he said.
Corridor Resources has a number of gas wells in the Sussex area. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
But Green Leader David Coon said the cabinet decision shows why the Higgs government should be part of the Aboriginal title negotiations.
"If they were at the table, they would clearly realize they couldn't just drop this decision without actual consultation with First Nations, with the Mi'kmaq in this case," he said.
The Liberals criticized Higgs for not being transparent about the cabinet decision last month, but the premier said in question period that with a public vote in the legislature last fall and his promise to implement it by the end of May, "this is no surprise."
"Now I know it is a shock to the opposition that we are actually following up on what we said we would do," he said. "We are actually doing what we said we would do, when we said we would do it."
After last fall's PC throne speech vote, then-Liberal leader Brian Gallant introduced a bill to codify the moratorium in legislation. Because the moratorium exists only as a regulation, it is easily amended by cabinet order, without a vote in the legislature.
Gallant's bill would have changed that, but the Liberals haven't used their allotment of opposition days in the legislature to bring it back for second reading.
"It's in the cards," Liberal MLA Benoit Bourque said Wednesday. "We're certainly considering it."
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesThe Progressive Conservative government is also facing questions about whether it has fulfilled its legal obligation to consult First Nations communities, who oppose the practice.
"As the rest of the world is moving one way, New Brunswick is moving the other," said Jim Emberger of the New Brunswick Anti-Shale Gas Alliance.
"On that basis if nothing else, there are many reason to suspect that this could be challenged in many ways," he said, pointing out the group took the Alward government to court on the issue and has kept in touch with its lawyers.
Jim
Emberger of the New Brunswick Anti-Shale Gas Alliance says Higgs's plan
to allow shale gas development will be challenged. (Jacques
Poitras/CBC)"Watch this space. …The possibilities are there for sure."
'Duty to consult'
Meanwhile, nine Mi'kmaq chiefs said in a written statement they had been "blindsided" by the news. They pointed out a commission on fracking recommended in 2016 that the province "rebuild its relationship" with First Nations before lifting the moratorium.He added that Mi'kmaq should have been consulted when the government "was just considering" lifting the moratorium.
The fierce reaction led PC Energy and Resource Development Minister Mike Holland to call for calm.
Energy Minister Mike Holland has called for calm over reaction to the PC government's plan to allow shale gas development in the Sussex area. (CBC)
He portrayed the regulatory change as just one of "a number of steps" in the process, including Indigenous consultation he is promising to do.
"Let's just let the temperature down here," he told reporters. "This is a long-term project. Nobody's doing anything knee-jerk."
Holland said $70 million in new investment is possible in the area, but that no development is likely before 2021.
Document not public yet
Higgs revealed the regulatory change in a scrum with reporters Tuesday. He said the order-in-council exempting an area near Sussex from the fracking moratorium had been approved by the cabinet sometime in May.
The order-in-council, normally a public document, wasn't available on the government's website Wednesday.
"There remain a few procedural aspects that need to be completed," said spokesperson Tyler Campbell in a statement. "Once those are completed, we'll be able to release them publicly."
Last fall, Higgs's minority government won a vote on its throne speech endorsing a limited lifting of the moratorium in the area near Sussex, where Corridor Resources has been extracting natural gas since 1999.
Corridor halted fracking new wells when the moratorium was put in place.
Area included in Aboriginal title discussions
Holland said Wednesday the area covered by the exemption is limited to around Penobsquis and Picadilly, and it does not extend as far as Turtle Creek and Albert County near Moncton, as the Liberals warned it would.
Even so, it falls within the one-third of the province now the subject of Aboriginal title discussions between the federal government and Elsipogtog First Nation.
Holland said he's hoping for "a very interactive exchange of information" with Mi'kmaq leaders and believes he can accommodate them.
"This is not an issue that's going to come down to a yes or no answer," he said.
Corridor Resources has a number of gas wells in the Sussex area. (Pierre Fournier/CBC) But Green Leader David Coon said the cabinet decision shows why the Higgs government should be part of the Aboriginal title negotiations.
"If they were at the table, they would clearly realize they couldn't just drop this decision without actual consultation with First Nations, with the Mi'kmaq in this case," he said.
The Liberals criticized Higgs for not being transparent about the cabinet decision last month, but the premier said in question period that with a public vote in the legislature last fall and his promise to implement it by the end of May, "this is no surprise."
"Now I know it is a shock to the opposition that we are actually following up on what we said we would do," he said. "We are actually doing what we said we would do, when we said we would do it."
Liberals considering second reading for bill
After last fall's PC throne speech vote, then-Liberal leader Brian Gallant introduced a bill to codify the moratorium in legislation. Because the moratorium exists only as a regulation, it is easily amended by cabinet order, without a vote in the legislature.
Gallant's bill would have changed that, but the Liberals haven't used their allotment of opposition days in the legislature to bring it back for second reading.
"It's in the cards," Liberal MLA Benoit Bourque said Wednesday. "We're certainly considering it."
PCs give shale gas development quiet go-ahead in Sussex area
Liberals denounce what they call secretive decision
Premier Blaine Higgs confirmed that his government will allow shale gas development to resume in the Sussex area. (Radio-Canada)Premier Blaine Higgs has confirmed that his Progressive Conservative government quietly passed regulatory changes last month that will allow shale gas development to resume in the Sussex area.
Higgs told reporters that his cabinet approved an order-in-council carving out an exception to a province-wide moratorium.
"We've done the modifications necessary on the current regulation," he said during a scrum on economic development issues. "My goal is to be able to tell Corridor [Resources] within a month's timeframe that we are open for business."
Corridor Resources started extracting gas in the Sussex area since 1999 but halted new fracking after the Liberal government of Brian Gallant imposed its moratorium after the 2014 election.
"We want to make that announcement so officially they can go out and look for investors," he said.
Consultation promised
He also vowed that before any project goes ahead, his government will consult with Indigenous people in the hopes of avoiding the kind of confrontations between protestors and police that took place near Rexton in 2013.
"We don't want this to turn into an issue like happened four or five years ago. We want it to be one element of that area that can move forward in a productive way, and not get stopped and started because of people not getting informed properly."
Corridor Resources started extracting gas in the Sussex area since 1999, but halted new fracking after the Liberal government of Brian Gallant imposed its moratorium after the 2014 election. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
Higgs said, however, that he's not sure yet which First Nations he would need to consult. "Do I have someone that I need to speak to, right today, about it? No, I don't know who that is."
The federal government recently signed a memorandum of understanding with the Elsipogtog First Nation to begin talks on Aboriginal title to about one-third of the province, including the area around Sussex.
Secret decision
The Opposition Liberals immediately condemned what they called a secretive decision by Higgs and his cabinet.
"He didn't consult with New Brunswickers," said Dieppe Liberal MLA Roger Melanson. "They made a decision behind closed doors, in cabinet. … The premier of this province thinks he's running a majority government, and he's not."
But Higgs did win majority support in the legislature for the move last December when three People's Alliance MLAs voted with the PCs on his throne speech motion. The motion had been amended to endorse excluding the Sussex area from the moratorium.
Premier Blaine Higgs said his government will consult with Indigenous people in the hopes of avoiding confrontations. (CBC)
The Liberals responded by introducing a bill to write the province-wide moratorium into law, something they didn't do when they were in government. That would make it impossible to approve exemptions by cabinet order.
But so far the Liberals have not used their allotment of opposition days in the legislature to bring the bill forward for second reading.
Green Party Leader David Coon called on them to do that this week in light of Higgs's comments.
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