Tuesday, 18 June 2019

Controversial armoured vehicle to be set up in Sackville Memorial Park, upsets residents

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Reply to David Peters: Methinks our military fought bravely to defend your right to speak and publish dumb opinions N'esy Pas?


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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/armoured-vehicle-donation-withdrawn-sackville-memorial-park-1.5195069

Hussars regiment withdraws armoured vehicle donation to Sackville

Some residents opposed installation of Cougar AVGP in New Brunswick town park

CBC News · Posted: Jun 29, 2019 6:00 AM AT |









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Methinks Mr Higgs and all the other nasty political animals in Canada should go figure why the former Attorney General and very sneaky SANB/Liberal lawyer James Lockyer QC opted to piss me off today N'esy Pas?


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Controversial armoured vehicle to be set up in Sackville Memorial Park, upsets residents

While residents agree veterans deserve to be commemorated, some worry the armoured vehicle glorifies war




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David Amos
I was born in Sackville and raised in Dorchester until 1967. I was named after two young men who lost their lives to WW II defending our rights and freedoms. I have a deep respect for our veterans. My Father's friend David Hornell died in the North Atlantic on my Mother's birthday about two weeks after her favourite brother Raymond Mitton was killed in Normandy on June 8th, 1944. (Raymond's name can be found on the cenotaph in Dorchester) My Father's plane went down in WWII and he was the soul survivour of that crash or I would not be typing this now. Trust that I would dearly love to see a PBY placed in Memorial Park In honour of my Father and his many comrades in arms if only to remind us all that another war can be upon us at any time no thanks that tough talking Yankee Mr Trump. Thats all I will say on this topic.  


Robert Brannen
Reply to @David Amos:
My uncle was lost in World War II, his sisters and my grandfather attended the ceremonies in memory of those who made that supreme sacrifice faithfully. Not one of them would consider a display of the machinery of war to be a memorial to those who lost their lives in its use.
My mother, my aunts and my grandfather tended to promote a proactive approach to implementing the strategy outlined elsewhere with regard to beating swords into ploughshares rather than glorifying implements of warfare.



Steve Mercer
Reply to @Robert Brannen: As a veteran, this exactly the sort of thing we want and those that have gone before us would want it too!












David Amos
Methinks anyone can Google "Fundy Royal Debate" then go to the 28 minute mark and listen closely N'esy Pas?


John Smith 
Reply to @David Amos: david do you always ref your public speaking engagements because your not permitted to think and speak of them out loud in a public square maybe try a jesters hat traditionally they were permitted to criticize the king and aristocrats


David Amos 
Reply to @john smith: Methinks you should finally read my lawsuit (Federal Court File No T- 1557-15)Paragraph 83 would be a could place t start with regards to this issue N'esy Pas?
 


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/controversial-armoured-vehicle-sackville-memorial-park-1.5188742



Debate over armoured vehicle stems from lack of education, historian says

'They are green, they are menacing. And in the case of the Cougar, it has a turret and it has a gun'

 

Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Jun 25, 2019 2:17 PM AT



A Cougar AVGP like this one was given to the Town of Sackville by the 8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's). (CBC)

Debate over whether a Cougar AVGP should stand in Sackville Memorial Park could reflect a lack of education about Canadian history, a Fredericton military historian says.

The controversy arose after Sackville council voted to accept the armoured vehicle as a gift from 8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's). It is to be installed in the park this summer.

But some residents are opposed to putting the vehicle on display, calling it a liability issue and "an upsetting symbol" for people who have already experienced war.

"One of the curious things about teaching Canadian history is nobody knows it," said Marc Milner, a professor with the University of New Brunswick's Gregg Centre for the Study of War and Society.
But discussion about Canadian history is one of the only ways to fix an issue like this, Milner said. And if people knew more about the history of the First and Second World Wars, they wouldn't see the Cougar monument as a glorification of violence.

For years, Milner has been leading students on tours of battlefields in Europe through the Canadian Battlefields Foundation, which promotes public awareness of the country's role in the two wars.
The fact that modern generations in Canada have no experience of war is really what everyone should strive for.​​- Marc Milner, military historian
He visited the battlefields in Normandy, France, on the 60th and 70th anniversaries of D-Day. Most recently, he took a group of New Brunswick high school students to mark 75 years since the Allied invasion. 

"It's always a revelation for me when I take students off to battlefields or even get students in my classes at the university, how little they know about their country."

Information Morning - Moncton
What makes an appropriate war memorial?


00:00 09:13

When a retired armoured fighting vehicle was going to be placed in Sackville's Memorial Park, critics spoke up and had the plan put on hold. Marc Milner is a professor with UNB's Gregg Centre for the Study of War and Society. He spoke about the role of military equipment in memorials. 9:13

'Very warlike' 


He also said the recent debate could be a generational issue, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
"The fact that modern generations in Canada have no experience of war is really what everyone should strive for," said Milner, who grew up in Sackville.

While he understands people don't want to glorify war, he feels that wouldn't be a war veteran's intent either.

Marc Milner of UNB's Gregg Centre for the Study of War and Society says concerns have arisen elsewhere in Canada when people wanted to put armoured vehicles in memorial parks. (CBC)
But these types of concerns arise frequently when people want to put armoured vehicles in memorial parks across the country.

"They are green, they are menacing. And in the case of the Cougar, it has a turret and it has a gun.
"It's very warlike."

According to the the 8th Canadian Hussars, the incoming Cougar was not used in war, but people who served and died used machinery like it.

Vandalism at memorial site


Meanwhile, RCMP are investigating obscene graffiti someone painted last weekend on a smaller armoured vehicle already on display at the park. RCMP are still investigating whether the vandalism is connected to the controversy over the other vehicle.

Although Milner doesn't believe anyone opposed to the Cougar would vandalize the current memorial site, he's still disappointed by the act.

"It's pretty infantile," he said.

Milner said an act of vandalism shouldn't "mar the debate whether or not the Cougar goes there."
During the Second World War, he said, Sackville had one of the highest enlistment rates in Canada.

Cougar or no Cougar?


Milner remembered Remembrance Day ceremonies in the 1950s, '60s and '70s, when a parades would stretch half a kilometre and include a large contingent of veterans from the First World War.

"Life moves on," he said. "The sacrifice and the commitment of soldiers from the region … has always been the focal point of the commemoration and the memorial park. It's a problematic and difficult for the town to deal with and the town council.




CBC News New Brunswick
Second armoured vehicle unwelcome at Sackville Memorial Park
 Some Sackville residents are opposing the installation of a second armoured fighting vehicle in the town's memorial park. 0:48

The town will be holding a special meeting to discuss concerns about the Cougar next Tuesday.
Milner said it will be difficult for the town and residents opposed of the armoured vehicle to come to any kind of middle ground.

"Either you're going to put a Cougar in there or you're not," he said.
With files from Information Morning Moncton


 




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David R.Amos
Methinks its interesting that Marc Milner has lots of time to talk on CBC and travel the world but no time to answer emails or return phone call since we crossed paths in 2006 N'esy Pas?  
 

Mark (Junkman) George
I'm constantly simply amazed. The place is called: Sackville Memorial Park, a park set aside as a war memorial, it's not a "dog park", nor is it a "children's play park". There are no swings, or slides, it is a "memorial park", where one hopefully goes to remember the sacrifices that were made by others for your benefit. If folks choose to put a war memorial in the memorial park what of it?


David R.Amos  
Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Exactly Methinks some people live for soemthing to protest about N'esy Pas?




https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/armoured-vehicle-donation-withdrawn-sackville-memorial-park-1.5195069


Hussars regiment withdraws armoured vehicle donation to Sackville

Some residents opposed installation of Cougar AVGP in New Brunswick town park

This is an example of a Cougar AVGP. One was given to the town of Sackville, N.B., by the 8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's) regiment. The donation was later withdrawn. (CBC)

The armed forces regiment that donated an armoured vehicle to the Town of Sackville has withdrawn its donation amid controversy surrounding the gift, the town announced Friday.

Town council voted in February to accept the armoured vehicle, a Cougar AVGP, as a gift from the 8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's) regiment. The town had planned to install in Sackville Memorial Park this summer.

"In the interim, we have received feedback from the community reflecting a number of different perspectives on this donation, including those of the indigenous community," the town said in a statement.

"After hearing these perspectives, the Hussars made the decision to withdraw the donation and offered to explore alternative ways to memorialize the special relationship between the Hussars and the Town.

"We thank the Hussars for their generosity and the positive gesture."
The gift was met with opposition by some residents, calling it a liability issue and an upsetting symbol for people who have already experienced war.

The park also features an armoured vehicle called a Ferret, a six-metre cenotaph with plaques memorializing local soldiers who died in previous wars, a propeller and an anchor.

Resident Jeska Grue said what's already there is plenty.

"I don't feel that it's the best way for a memorial park [to] commemorate veterans and those affected by war," she told CBC News earlier this month.

She said it could be an upsetting symbol for people who have first-hand experience with war.

 
The Sackville park already features an armoured vehicle that has plaques memorializing local soldiers who died in previous wars. (CBC)
 
Jim Lockyer, honorary colonel of the 8th Canadian Hussars, has said the Cougar should act as a way to commemorate previous battles.

"This is not glorifying war, if anything it's a memento to discourage it," he said.

Meanwhile, RCMP are investigating obscene graffiti someone painted last weekend on the armoured vehicle already on display at the park. Police are investigating whether the vandalism is connected to the controversy.

A special council meeting has been scheduled for Tuesday to discuss the issue. The town said it will be up to the presenters to determine if they still want to address the Hussar's decision.

The town said in the statement it would like to further discuss "the future development of Memorial Park and establishing suitable plans to recognize all veterans."

With files from Tori Weldon and Elizabeth Fraser




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David R. Amos
WOW Methinks Sackville just upset a lot of Ghosts and a legion of veterans who are still very much alive N'esy Pas?




Larry LeBlanc
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Pathetic....I'll take, put it in my front yard and create a memorial for all to visit. Honoured to do it in memory of my Father in Law wounded 4 times in WW 2, his brother, killed when his bomber crashed in WW 2 and their father who served in WW 1.
 

David R. Amos
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Reply to @Larry LeBlanc: Good for you Let me know if you get it

Methinks you may enjoy my visit to it BTW my Father's aircraft crashed in WWII and he was the soul surviour of nine men in that PBY. He named me after his friend David Hornell who died in the North Atlantic on my Mother's birthday June 24th 1944 Two weeks before her brother Raymond Mitton was killed in Normandy on June 8th and my cousin the local Green MLA certainly knows that irrefutable fact N'esy Pas? 
 
 











Edward Andrews
Better yet, lets remove all the reminders of the deeds of veterans, its better to forget those who gave everything so others could have opinions and the freedom to express them without having ever suffered the trials of service. (read with lots of sarcasm).

This is a ridiculous thing to say: "I don't feel that it's the best way for a memorial park [to] commemorate veterans and those affected by war,"

No? Lets start with the indigenous people, some who have served Canada in the military to great distinction. How about those who saw a Canadian armoured vehicle roll into their village to great relief, knowing they were now safe? How about those soldiers long out of uniform that can stand before a simply vehicle and recall the camaraderie, the challenges, the grief, sacrifice and good that they did for others and their nation.
 

Marc Bourque 
Reply to @Edward Andrews: they would rather be handing out rose coloured glasses.I bet most are vegans
 

David R. Amos 
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas? 
 

Marc Bourque 
Reply to @David R. Amos: some maybe lol..

 
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks you should ask CBC why they block so many serious comments N'esy Pas?
 
 
Edward Andrews
Reply to @Edward Andrews: How about the fact that it is a veterans memorial park and if the symbolism of a military vehicle is evocative and brings forth some difficult emotions then is that not the point? Deal with you bloody feelings instead of trying to turn every space into a safe emotion free dead zone of safety. Grow up!










 

 
Marc Bourque
Good way to disrespect our military and veterans. If a vehicle is so offensive how about digging a big muddy bomb crater in the park. Remember if it wasn’t for those who fought and died for our freedom we’d all be speaking German today.
 

David Peters 
Reply to @Marc Bourque:
Isn't that kind of threatening Canadians? 
 
 
Marc Bourque
Reply to @David Peters: not one bit! No threats here,now you can continue to down-thumb all other opinions.
 
 
Marc Leblanc
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Your post was bang on.Responding to people like him are a complete waste of your time
 
 
Johnny Horton
Reply to @David Peters:
How is it theaten8ng? He didn’t say BOMB he said DIG a bomb crater. To show real effects of ear. 
 

David R. Amos 
Reply to @David Peters: NOPE  
 
 









 
Wendy Staples
What a disgusting lack of respect for our military who served and are no longer with us, for our veterans and for our serving Canadians. When it comes to our military, there will never be a way to completely thank them and Sussex should have it's name changed to Snowflakes.
 

Joe E. White 
Reply to @Wendy Staples: Sussex? Don't you mean Sackville? 

 
David R. Amos 
Reply to @Joe E. White: FYI the 8th Hussars were based in Sussex in WWII

Kings County Record June 22, 2004

Raising a Little Hell- Lively Debate Provokes Crowd

By Erin Hatfield

"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, rearrange it."

The 1979 Trooper song Raise a Little Hell blared on the speakers at the 8th Hussars Sports Center Friday evening as people filed in to watch the Fundy candidates debate the issues. It was an accurate, if unofficial, theme song for the debate.

The crowd of over 200 spectators was dwarfed by the huge arena, but as they chose their seats, it was clear the battle lines were drawn. Supporters of Conservative candidate Rob Moore naturally took the blue chairs on the right of the rink floor while John Herron's Liberalswent left. There were splashes of orange, supporters of NDP Pat Hanratty, mixed throughout. Perhaps the loudest applause came from a row towards the back, where supporters of independent candidate David Amos sat."  

 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @David R. Amos: The story giving rise to comments is related to an important news story; the story has 0 (that’s a zero) to do with this Amos cat. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Marc LeBlanc
Jim Lockyer was one of the few politicians this province has had that had a moral and ethical code.We desperately need more like him
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Marc LeBlanc: I disagree Methinks many folks would agree that we need less political lawyers working with the SANB N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @Josef Blow: Might you explain what the SANB has to do with this news item ??
 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @David R. Amos: Are ya there, Dave? 
 
 
 







Rima Azar
Not only "we engage in genocide" but also in national suicide.

This couple of vocal people do not represent the majority of (silent) citizens.

They surely do NOT represent me and I am someone who grew up in civil war until age 17.

I also doubt that they represent our 12,000 Indigenous Canadian veterans.

When will this collective insanity stop?
 

Johnny Horton 
Reply to @Rima Azar:

Sadly it won’t stop. Sadly these people will be running the country in thirty years time. Fortunately most of us will be dead by then and not have to witness it.
 

Graham McCormack 
Reply to @Rima Azar: Maybe it's time for you to speak up.
 

David R. Amos  
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Reply to @Rima Azar: "When will this collective insanity stop?"

Methinks it would help if more people like you spoke up and ran for public office as well N'esy Pas?


 
David R. Amos  
Reply to @Graham McCormack: Methinks you should too N'esy Pas?

 
David R. Amos  
Reply to @Rima Azar: Trust that you would have liked my reply 











 
Joe Gallant
I have business associates that live and work in Sackville and have told me more than once never to start a business or move to Sackville all due to people running this town and making a mockery of it. Anyone wanting to move to any foreighn country should accept things the way they are like us wanting to show respect to our military by having a park with historic memorbalia. It has nothing to do with promoting hate or loving war and ones who claim it is needs to attend the Nov 11th ceremonies more.
Thank you to everyone who fought evil to allow me the right to voice my opinion
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Joe Gallant: I have heard the same 













 
DON MOFFATT
Is this a nail in the coffin of Western Civilization?
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @DON MOFFATT: YUP 
 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @DON MOFFATT: The survival of western civilization does not depend on the important debate relating to this news story ... in Sackville, New Brunswick, Canada ... hehe. But there’s nothing funny at all about the aloof and clinical remarks of armchair intellectulars (the ironic spelling is intended). No one, save the psychopaths in Canadian society, truly WANTS to engage in combat and conflict. But those who HAVE SERVED and who died in their chosen field of soldier or who serve in the air or on water, deserve our respect for their efforts and supreme contribution; not some snotty comments from people living in a faux nucleus of detached consideration.
 










 





Donald Smith
Man oh Man, this is an unreal Memory Insult to the Women And Men Vets who FOUGHT and DIED for Canada
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: YUP 










 
Donald Smith
Sarcastically I say, Way To Go Sackville, remind me not to go there again
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Donald Smith: I will be back 











 
Brian Robertson
It's a university town.
They're haven't completed their education yet.
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Brian Robertson: Obviously not 












 
Samual Johnston
Too bad more people in Sackville did not stand up against the vocal minority. Is seems more and more the squeaky wheels get their way because people in power are afraid to take a stand.
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Samual Johnston: Methinks the squeaky wheels just put Sackville on the map and not in a very good light before a federal election N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Robert Brannen
Reply to @Samual Johnston: There appeared to be as many, or even more, squeaky voices from the silent majority being posted on an earlier story related to this issue.
 
 
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Robert Brannen: a few posting on CBC news site does not sway the powers that be in Sackville though nor should it. People need to speak up and demand the council ask if not beg for this donation to be offered again. 
 
 











Robin Ellison
So, as usual, the SJWs win again - and everyone else loses. When will these squeaky wheel types realize all the damage they are inflicting on the more reasonable silent majority.
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @Robin Ellison: Methinks on or about the 12th of Never N'esy Pas? 












 
 
David Peters
Imo, it would be more positive to commemorate and celebrate ppl who invent innovative solutions and things, and those who help others.

Military is populated by ppl who have no choice but to follow orders...and who are trained to kill ppl and break things. Might be something that humanity should be moving away from, imo.
 

David R. Amos
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Reply to @David Peters: Methinks our military fought bravely to defend your right to speak and publish dumb opinions N'esy Pas? 

 
David R. Amos
Reply to @David Peters: WOW
 

David R. Amos
Reply to @David Peters: Methinks you should check my work in Twitter N'esy Pas?

    
Oscar Acosta
Reply to @David Peters: As a fulltime Sackville resident, I completely agree. 


Marc Bourque
Reply to @David Peters: either we like it or not,at times war is necessary to have peace.Simply look at WW1 and 2....dont downgrade those, who gave their souls up for your freedom!


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Marc Bourque: Methinks its interesting that you can post that opinion but I cannot N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Peters
Reply to @Marc Bourque:
WW1 was a complete waste of life and treasure...and it directly caused WW2 which was worldwide destruction.

Maybe, if more ppl were critical of gov't back then, millions of people could have been saved a living nightmare.
 
 
David Peters
Reply to @Marc Bourque:
...and where did I downgrade anyone?

It's my view that ppl who are only in a position to follow orders...and are paid very well for their time...it's just not something to celebrate, imo.

Rugged individualism creating innovative ways to solve problems...now that's Canadian, imo.
 
 
Shawn Steele
Reply to @David Peters: Here's how you downgraded those who served in the military, by thinking that all people who served are mindless killing machines. They are not, the military does not want them and they make very poor Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen/women. You speak like someone who has only ever served himself.

You would not know the cost to these men and women who can be called away at a moments notice to deploy to a humanitarian crisis, natural disasters or a war zone. The men and women who serve in our Navy, Army and Air Force are not mindless, they are smart, intelligent and driven to complete their mission. They are often deployed to situations that are fluid and have to have great skill at adaption. They are willing to sacrifice, their families are willing to sacrifice. Are you?

As for your comments on WW1 and WW2. They were going to happen due to the culture of the time. Your sense of appeasement and capitulation is what made WW2 worse not better. Yes it destroyed Europe but it also showed what could be accomplished when everyone works together. From WW2 the civil rights movement was born, the women's rights movement progressed and fascism was pushed back.

The members of the military are called to serve. They serve in places where most people don't have the skills to serve, whether it is site of a natural disaster, humanitarian crisis or a war zone.

As for the memorial I'm pretty sure that no veteran walks by them and thinks it is a glorification of war, that is an attitude of someone who never volunteered to serve. Veterans will remember the sacrifice, and it will always have a sadness to it. For those that have never served and are uncomfortable with these memorials and the thought of war, good, war should never be a comfortable thought.
 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @David Peters: You wonder how you might have, in some way, “downgraded” anyone. I refer you to your other comment wherein you state: , (...) it would be more positive to commemorate and celebrate ppl who invent innovative solutions and things, and THOSE WHO HELP OTHERS (italics are mine).

I cannot fathom how you can intimate that Canadian Soldiers do not help you. Appalling.
 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @David R. Amos: Hehe ... your “work”? Amusing use of a once-noble and meaningful term.
 
 
Josef Blow
Reply to @Shawn Steele: Thank you, Shawn, for a comment that goes beyond the obvious merit of acknowledging those who serve in a professional capacity in the air, on the water and on land. Your comment is a also a meaningful acknowledgement of the commitment to serving CANADA, to the point of offering their lives, if it should happen.
 
 
Marc Bourque
Reply to @Shawn Steele: Thank you sir well said! 
 

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Methinks anyone can Google "Fundy Royal Debate" then go to the 28 minute mark and listen closely N'esy Pas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cFOKT6TlSE

 





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---------- Original message ----------
From: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 09:44:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Hey There Jeska Grue and James Lockyer RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15
I just called both of you about our common concerns about war
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Go Figure

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/06/controversial-armoured-vehicle-to-be.html

Not long after CBC comment section closed James Lockyer QC an old law school classmate of my sister and her hubby Reid Chedore called me back and denied receiving this email. However the former Attorney General refused to look on the internet to verify what I said was true. So I gave up on his bullshit and told him to answer me in writing 

 

I could easily tell that the sneaky SANB/Liberal lawyer got the damned email. 

 

Lockyer merely refused to admit it tis all.

    


---------- Original message ----------
From: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 10:53:43 -0400
Subject: Hey There Jeska Grue.and James Lockyer RE Federal Court File No T-1557-15
I just called both of you about our common concerns about war
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I tried to explain now go figure things out for yourselves

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/armoured-car-cougar-sackville-memorial-park-1.5178986

Controversial armoured vehicle to be set up in Sackville Memorial
Park, upsets residents

While residents agree veterans deserve to be commemorated, some worry
the armoured vehicle glorifies war
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Jun 18, 2019 7:08 AM AT

"Jeska Grue, whose backyard backs onto the park, said what's already
there is plenty.

"I don't feel that it's the best way for a memorial park [to]
commemorate veterans and those affected by war."

Grue said an armoured vehicle could be an upsetting symbol for people
who have first-hand experience with war.

Her grandfather served in the Second World War, where he worked as a
tank mechanic.

"He did suffer from [post-traumatic stress disorder] and alcoholism
for the rest of his life," she said. "To me, that's the memory that it
draws."

Grue said refugees starting a new life in Sackville may also be
troubled by the armoured vehicle sitting in the middle of town.

But Jim Lockyer, honorary colonel of the 8th Canadian Hussars, said
the Cougar should act as a way to commemorate previous battles.

"This is not glorifying war, if anything it's a memento to discourage it."

He's toured fields in Italy where soldiers belonging to the 8th
Canadian Hussars lost their lives fighting during the Second World
War.

"There are young men, 18 to 25 years old, one of whom was Stedman
Henderson from Moncton, who again did not come home and they're still
there," he said.

"So it's a testimonial to their contribution."


 90 Comments


David Amos
Methinks anyone can Google "Fundy Royal Debate" then go to the 28
minute mark and listen closely N'esy Pas?

John Smith
Reply to @David Amos: david do you always ref your public speaking
engagements because your not permitted to think and speak of them out
loud in a public square maybe try a jesters hat traditionally they
were permitted to criticize the king and aristocrats

David Amos
Reply to @john smith: Methinks you should finally read my lawsuit
(Federal Court File No T- 1557-15)Paragraph 83 would be a could place
t start with regards to this issue N'esy Pas?

https://twitter.com/jeskagrue

https://jeskagrue.ca/info

 CONTACT/LOCATION

heythere@jeskagrue.ca

902-880-4783

JG lives very close to the Waterfowl Park.

James E. Lockyer, Q.C.
Université de Moncton
Professeur:
Faculté de droit
Edifice A.J. Cormier
Moncton, New Brunswick E1A 3E9
Phone: 506-863-2134
Fax: 506-858-4534
Email: james.lockyer@umoncton.ca


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Murray, Charles (Ombud)" <Charles.Murray@gnb.ca>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:16:15 +0000
Subject: You wished to speak with me
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>

I have the advantage, sir, of having read many of your emails over the years.


As such, I do not think a phone conversation between us, and
specifically one which you might mistakenly assume was in response to
your threat of legal action against me, is likely to prove a
productive use of either of our time.


If there is some specific matter about which you wish to communicate
with me, feel free to email me with the full details and it will be
given due consideration.


Sincerely,


Charles Murray

Ombud NB

Acting Integrity Commissioner




>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:48:58 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: "David Raymond Amos" davidramos333@yahoo.ca
>>> Subject: I already know that you are as crooked as Hell Mr Leger. I am
>>> fishing for an honest cop not another corrupt bureaucrat. i am just
>>> proving that you know the truth Get it?
>>> To: Marc.Leger@gnb.ca
>>> CC: Day.S@parl.gc.ca, John.Foran@gnb.ca, pat.bonner@saintjohn.ca,
>>> lou.lafleur@fredericton.ca, infoam@fredericton.cbc.ca,
>>> infomorning@moncton.cbc.ca, infomorning@halifax.cbc.ca,
>>> webo@xplornet.com, Stephane.vaillancourt@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> alltrue@nl.rogers.com, samperrier@hotmail.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
>>> Scott.A@parl.gc.ca, amerrino@gmail.com, deanr0032@hotmail.com,
>>> wickedwanda3@adelphia.net, rfowlo@comcast.net, Harper.S@parl.gc.ca,
>>> bmulroney@ogilvyrenault.com, pcollin@cpa-acp.ca, Dion.S@parl.gc.ca,
>>> Dryden.K@parl.gc.ca, Layton.J@parl.gc.ca, Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca,
>>> Casey.B@parl.gc.ca, leader@greenparty.ca
>>>
>>> Subject: Mr. Amos
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:41:22 -0300
>>> From: "Leger, Marc (DPS/MSP)" Marc.Leger@gnb.ca
>>> To: "David Raymond Amos" davidramos333@yahoo.ca
>>> David Amos,
>>>
>>> I am not able to address your concerns.
>>>
>>> Your calls and emails are not welcome and I would like you to stop
>>> communicating with me by phone and email
>>>
>>> Marc Léger
>>> Deputy Minister / Sous-ministre
>>> Public Safety / Sécurité publique
>>> (506) 453-7412 marc.leger@gnb.ca
>>> Working together to build a safer New Brunswick / Travaillons ensemble
>>> pour bâtir un Nouveau-Brunswick plus sûr
>>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Brian Gallant <briangallant10@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 06:01:57 -0700
>> Subject: Merci / Thank you Re: Fwd: I just called Alan Roy again about
>> my right to health care, my missing 1965 Harley, the Yankee Wiretaps
>> tapes in its saddlebag and Federal Court and his assistant played dumb
>> as usual
>> To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>
>> (Français à suivre)
>>
>> If your email is pertaining to the Government of New Brunswick, please
>> email me at brian.gallant@gnb.ca
>>
>> If your matter is urgent, please email Greg Byrne at greg.byrne@gnb.ca
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Si votre courriel s'addresse au Gouvernement du Nouveau-Brunswick,
>> ‎svp m'envoyez un courriel à brian.gallant@gnb.ca
>>
>> Pour les urgences, veuillez contacter Greg Byrne à greg.byrne@gnb.ca
>>
>> Merci.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:42:09 -0400
>> Subject: Attn Marc Richard and John McNair I just called AGAIN Say hey
>> to my Brother in Law W. S. Reid CHEDORE and his brother of the law
>> David Lutz QC for me will ya?
>> To: MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.nb.ca, John.McNair@snb.ca,
>> "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>, Erin.Hardy@snb.ca,
>> David.Eidt@gnb.ca
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
>>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> To: coi@gnb.ca
>>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Good Day Sir
>>>
>>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
>>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>>>
>>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
>>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
>>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
>>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>>>
>>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
>>> suggested that you study closely.
>>>
>>> This is the docket in Federal Court
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=T-1557-15&select_court=T
>>>
>>> These are digital recordings of  the last three hearings
>>>
>>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/BahHumbug
>>>
>>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/Jan11th2015
>>>
>>> April 3rd, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/April32017JusticeLeblancHearing
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>>>
>>> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=A-48-16&select_court=All
>>>
>>>
>>> The only hearing thus far
>>>
>>> May 24th, 2017
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/May24thHoedown
>>>
>>>
>>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>>>
>>> Date: 20151223
>>>
>>> Docket: T-1557-15
>>>
>>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>>>
>>> PRESENT:        The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>>>
>>> BETWEEN:
>>>
>>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>>>
>>> Plaintiff
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>>
>>> Defendant
>>>
>>> ORDER
>>>
>>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
>>> December 14, 2015)
>>>
>>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
>>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
>>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
>>> in its entirety.
>>>
>>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
>>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
>>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
>>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
>>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal).  In that letter
>>> he stated:
>>>
>>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
>>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
>>> You are your brother’s keeper.
>>>
>>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
>>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
>>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
>>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
>>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
>>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
>>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
>>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
>>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
>>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
>>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
>>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
>>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
>>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
>>> Police.
>>>
>>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
>>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
>>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
>>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
>>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
>>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
>>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
>>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
>>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>>>
>>>
>>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
>>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion.  There
>>> is no order as to costs.
>>>
>>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>> Judge
>>>
>>>
>>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
>>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
>>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>>>
>>>  I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the  the Court
>>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada  Perhaps you should scroll to the
>>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83  of my
>>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>>>
>>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
>>> most
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
>>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
>>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
>>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
>>> dudes are way past too late
>>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
>>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
>>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Merci ,
>>>
>>>
>>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2015/09/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 83.  The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
>>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
>>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
>>> five years after he began his bragging:
>>>
>>> January 13, 2015
>>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>>>
>>> December 8, 2014
>>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>>>
>>> Friday, October 3, 2014
>>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
>>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>>>
>>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
>>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>>>
>>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
>>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
>>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
>>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
>>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
>>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
>>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
>>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
>>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
>>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
>>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
>>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
>>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
>>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
>>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
>>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
>>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
>>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
>>> campaign of 2006.
>>>
>>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
>>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
>>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
>>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>>>
>>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
>>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
>>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
>>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
>>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>>>
>>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
>>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
>>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
>>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
>>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
>>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
>>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
>>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
>>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>>>
>>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
>>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
>>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
>>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>>>
>>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
>>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
>>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
>>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>>>
>>> Subject:
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
>>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
>>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> January 30, 2007
>>>
>>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>>>
>>> Mr. David Amos
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos:
>>>
>>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
>>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>>>
>>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
>>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
>>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
>>> Minister of Health
>>>
>>> CM/cb
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
>>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
>>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
>>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.Foran@gnb.ca,
>>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
>>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
>>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Amos,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
>>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
>>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>>>
>>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
>>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
>>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
>>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
>>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
>>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>>>
>>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
>>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
>>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
>>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
>>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>>>
>>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
>>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>>>
>>>  Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
>>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
>>> Traffic Services NCO
>>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
>>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
>>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
>>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
>>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
>>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
>>> tel.: 506-457-7890
>>> fax: 506-444-5224
>>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
>> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
>> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>
>> Mr. Amos,
>> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
>> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
>> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
>> of Nova Scotia.  Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
>> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
>> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS.  Please note that we will
>> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
>>
>> Department of Justice
>>
>> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
>>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>>>
>>> http://thedavidamosrant.blogspot.ca/2013/10/re-glen-greenwald-and-braz
>>> ilian.html
>>>
>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/09/nsa-leak-guardian.html
>>>>
>>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vugUalUO8YY
>>>>
>>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>>>> cards?
>>>>
>>>> http://archive.org/details/ITriedToExplainItToAllMaritimersInEarly200
>>>> 6
>>>>
>>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/2006/05/wiretap-tapes-impeach-bush.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceSurveilanceWiretapTape139
>>>>
>>>> http://archive.org/details/Part1WiretapTape143
>>>>
>>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>>>> Senator Arlen Specter
>>>> United States Senate
>>>> Committee on the Judiciary
>>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>>>> Washington, DC 20510
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>>>
>>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>>>> raised in the attached letter.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
>>>> tapes.
>>>>
>>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>>>
>>>> Very truly yours,
>>>> Barry A. Bachrach
>>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.ca/2017/11/federal-court-of-appeal-finally-makes.html
>>
>>
>> Sunday, 19 November 2017
>> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
>> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
>> The Supreme Court
>>
>> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fca-caf/decisions/en/item/236679/index.do
>>
>>
>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>>
>> Amos v. Canada
>> Court (s) Database
>>
>> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
>> Date
>>
>> 2017-10-30
>> Neutral citation
>>
>> 2017 FCA 213
>> File numbers
>>
>> A-48-16
>> Date: 20171030
>>
>> Docket: A-48-16
>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>> CORAM:
>>
>> WEBB J.A.
>> NEAR J.A.
>> GLEASON J.A.
>>
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>> (and formally Appellant)
>> and
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>> (and formerly Respondent)
>> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
>> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
>>
>> THE COURT
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: 20171030
>>
>> Docket: A-48-16
>> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
>> CORAM:
>>
>> WEBB J.A.
>> NEAR J.A.
>> GLEASON J.A.
>>
>>
>> BETWEEN:
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>> Respondent on the cross-appeal
>> (and formally Appellant)
>> and
>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>> Appellant on the cross-appeal
>> (and formerly Respondent)
>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
>>
>> I.                    Introduction
>>
>> [1]               On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
>> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
>> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
>> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
>> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
>> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
>> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
>> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
>> (Claim at para. 96).
>>
>> [2]               On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
>> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
>> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
>> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
>> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
>> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
>> Prothontary’s Order).
>>
>>
>> [3]               On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
>> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
>> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
>> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
>> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
>> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
>>
>>
>> [4]               Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
>> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
>> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
>> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
>> cross-appeal.
>>
>>
>> II.                 Preliminary Matter
>>
>> [5]               Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
>> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
>> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
>> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
>> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
>> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
>> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
>> several judges but did not name those judges.
>>
>> [6]               Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
>> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
>> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
>> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
>> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
>> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
>> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
>> c. F-7:
>>
>>
>> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
>> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
>> Appeal.
>> […]
>>
>> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
>> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
>> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
>> […]
>> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
>> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
>> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
>>
>> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
>> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
>> juges de la Cour fédérale.
>>
>>
>> [7]               However, these subsections only provide that the
>> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
>> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
>> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
>> section.
>> [8]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide
>> that:
>> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
>> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
>> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
>> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
>> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
>> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>>
>> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
>> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
>> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
>> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
>> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
>> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
>> matière civile et pénale.
>> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
>> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
>> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
>> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
>> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
>> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
>>
>> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
>> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
>> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
>> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
>> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
>> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
>> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
>>
>>
>> [9]               Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
>> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
>> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
>> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
>> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
>> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
>> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
>> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
>> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
>> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
>> appeal book.
>>
>>
>> [10]           Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
>> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
>> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
>> conflict in any matter related to him.
>>
>>
>> [11]           On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
>> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
>> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
>> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
>> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
>> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
>> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
>> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
>> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
>> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
>> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
>> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
>>
>>
>> [12]           During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
>> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
>> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
>> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
>> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
>> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
>> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
>> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
>> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
>> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
>> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
>> such judge had a conflict.
>>
>>
>> [13]           The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
>> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
>> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
>> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
>> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
>> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
>> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
>> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
>> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
>> was a member of such firm.
>>
>>
>> [14]           During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
>> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
>> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
>> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
>> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
>> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
>> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
>> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
>> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
>>
>>
>> [15]           The documents that he submitted in relation to the
>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
>> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
>> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
>> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
>> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
>> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
>> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
>> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
>> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
>> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
>> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
>> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
>> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
>> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
>> [16]           Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
>> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
>> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
>> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
>> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
>> apprehension of bias:
>> 60        In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
>> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
>> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
>> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
>> reasonable apprehension of bias:
>> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
>> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
>> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
>> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
>> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
>> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
>> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
>> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
>>
>> [17]           The issue to be determined is whether an informed
>> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
>> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
>> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
>> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
>> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
>> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
>> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
>> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
>> (4th) 193).
>>
>> [18]           The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
>> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
>> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
>> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
>> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
>> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
>> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
>> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
>> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
>> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
>> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
>> 27        Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
>> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
>> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
>> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
>>
>>
>> 28        The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
>> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
>> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
>> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
>> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
>> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
>> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
>> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
>> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
>> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
>>
>>
>> 29        It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
>> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
>> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
>> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
>> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
>> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
>> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
>> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
>> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
>> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
>> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
>> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
>> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
>> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
>> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
>> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
>>
>>
>> 30        That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
>> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
>> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
>> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
>> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
>> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
>> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
>> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
>>             To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
>> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
>> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
>> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
>> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
>> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
>> 31        There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
>> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
>> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
>> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
>> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
>>
>>
>> 32        In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
>> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
>> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
>> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
>> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
>> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
>> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
>> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
>> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
>> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
>> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
>> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
>> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
>> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
>> events from over a decade ago.
>> (emphasis added)
>>
>> [19]           Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
>> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
>> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
>> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
>> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
>> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
>> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
>> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
>> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
>> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
>> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
>> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
>> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
>> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
>> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
>> Webb hearing this appeal.
>>
>> [20]           Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
>> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
>> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
>> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
>> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
>>
>> [21]           In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
>> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
>> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
>> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
>> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
>> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
>> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
>>
>> [22]           Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
>> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
>> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
>> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
>> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
>> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
>> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
>> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
>> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
>> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
>>
>> [23]           As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
>> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
>> to recuse himself.
>>
>> [24]           Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
>> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
>> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
>> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
>> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
>>
>> [25]           Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
>> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
>> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
>> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
>> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
>> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
>> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
>> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
>> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
>> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
>> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
>> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
>>
>>
>> III.               Issue
>>
>> [26]           The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
>> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
>> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
>> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
>> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
>>
>> IV.              Analysis
>>
>> A.                 Standard of Review
>>
>> [27]           Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
>> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
>> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
>> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
>> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
>> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
>> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
>> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
>> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
>> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
>> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
>> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
>> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
>> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
>> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
>> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
>> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
>> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
>> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
>>
>> [28]           In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
>> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
>> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
>> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
>> interfere.
>>
>>
>> B.                 Did the Judge err in interfering with the
>> Prothonotary’s Order?
>>
>> [29]           The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
>> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
>> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
>>
>> 17.       Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
>> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
>> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
>> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
>> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
>> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
>> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
>> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
>> (…)
>>
>>
>> 21.       The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
>> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
>> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
>> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
>> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
>> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
>> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
>> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
>> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
>> [footnotes omitted].
>>
>>
>> [30]           The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
>> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
>> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
>> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
>> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
>> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
>> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
>> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
>> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
>> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
>> para. 27).
>>
>>
>> [31]           The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
>> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
>> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
>> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
>>
>>
>> [13]      As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
>> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
>> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
>> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
>>
>> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
>> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
>>
>> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
>> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
>>
>> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
>> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
>> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
>> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
>> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
>>
>> [32]           The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
>> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
>> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
>> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
>> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
>>
>> [33]           This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
>> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
>> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
>>
>> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
>> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
>> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
>> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
>> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
>> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
>> of process…
>>
>> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
>> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
>> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
>> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
>> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
>> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
>> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
>> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
>> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
>>
>> [34]           Applying the Housen standard of review to the
>> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
>> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
>>
>> [35]           The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
>> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
>> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
>> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
>> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
>> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
>> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
>> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
>> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
>> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
>> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
>> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
>> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
>> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
>> supporting a cause of action.
>>
>> [36]           In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
>> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
>> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
>> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
>> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
>> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
>> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
>> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
>>
>> V.                 Conclusion
>> [37]           For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
>> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
>> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
>> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
>> without leave to amend.
>> "Wyman W. Webb"
>> J.A.
>> "David G. Near"
>> J.A.
>> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
>> J.A.
>>
>>
>>
>> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
>> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
>>
>> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
>> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
>> DOCKET:
>>
>> A-48-16
>>
>>
>>
>> STYLE OF CAUSE:
>>
>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>>
>>
>>
>> PLACE OF HEARING:
>>
>> Fredericton,
>> New Brunswick
>>
>> DATE OF HEARING:
>>
>> May 24, 2017
>>
>> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
>>
>> WEBB J.A.
>> NEAR J.A.
>> GLEASON J.A.
>>
>> DATED:
>>
>> October 30, 2017
>>
>> APPEARANCES:
>> David Raymond Amos
>>
>>
>> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
>> (on his own behalf)
>>
>> Jan Jensen
>>
>>
>> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>>
>> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
>> Nathalie G. Drouin
>> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
>>
>> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
>>
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>> How can you help? Only current Conservative Party members can vote for
>> John in the nomination, so please signup or renew your membership
>> here: https://donate.conservative.ca/membership/
>>
>> There are also envelopes that need stuffing, phone calls that need to
>> be made, and events already planned.
>>
>> Contact John today by e-mail at VoteJohnW@gmail.com or call
>> 506-466-8347 to let him know how you can help!
>>
>> Unsure if your membership is current? Feel free to contact John and
>> ask. His team can make sure you’re all set to vote.
>>
>> And be sure to share and follow this page for updates on his campaign
>> and to learn about upcoming events.
>>
>> Go John! And Vote John W!
>>
>> Progressive Conservative MLA calls it quits at provincial level
>> Brian Macdonald won't run again for legislature seat, but might try
>> federal politics
>> CBC News · Posted: May 28, 2018 6:07 PM AT | Last Updated: May 28
>> Brian Macdonald, a Progressive Conservative MLA, has announced he
>> won't run in the Sept. 24 provincial election. (CBC)
>>
>> New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative party is losing one of its
>> highest-profile MLAs just months before the next provincial election.
>>
>> Brian Macdonald says he won't be a candidate this fall and may instead
>> jump into federal politics.
>>
>> Calling the last year "my best year in politics," the two-term MLA
>> said his decision has nothing to do with PC Leader Blaine Higgs, who
>> beat Macdonald for the party leadership in 2016.
>>
>> "It's been a really good year," Macdonald said. "I've had a strong
>> voice in the legislature on issues that are really important to my
>> heart.
>>
>> "I also think it can be a challenge being in provincial politics. It's
>> very small, it's very close, it's very tight, and on a personal basis,
>> I want to move on."
>>
>> Macdonald says he’s considering running for the federal Conservative
>> nomination in New Brunswick Southwest, which includes part of the
>> riding of Fredericton West-Hanwell, where he has been the MLA. (CBC)
>>
>> Macdonald said he's considering running for the federal Conservative
>> nomination in New Brunswick Southwest, a constituency that includes
>> part of Macdonald's provincial riding of Fredericton West-Hanwell.
>>
>>     Health critic slams 'gutting' of top doctor's office
>>
>>     Blaine Higgs faces internal PC dissent over appointment
>>
>> That decision would pit him against former Conservative MP John
>> Williamson, who announced May 21 he'll also seek the nomination in the
>> riding he represented from 2011 to 2015. Party members in the riding
>> will nominate their candidate June 28.
>>
>> Macdonald said he'll also consider running federally in Fredericton.
>> The former soldier said he's also looking at job opportunities with
>> national organizations that advocate for veterans.
>>
>> "I'm looking for opportunities and considering a lot of options," he
>> said.
>>
>>     Blaine Higgs wins N.B. PC leadership race on 3rd ballot
>>
>>     Tory leadership hopefuls scramble to be 'second choice' of rivals'
>> supporters
>>
>> Macdonald is the fifth candidate from the 2016 provincial PC
>> leadership race to opt against running in this year's election under
>> Higgs.
>>
>> Macdonald said he is confident he would have won his riding again and
>> the Tories will win the election Sept. 24, meaning he'd have a shot of
>> becoming a minister.
>>
>> But he said being a provincial politician "does wear on you and it
>> does make you think about what the other options are. … If I go
>> another four years in provincial politics, it concerns me that my
>> options would be limited after that."
>>
>> The 47-year-old also said the recent death of some friends made him
>> realize he should pursue other opportunities when he can.
>>
>> Macdonald's interest in federal politics has been well-known for
>> years. He was a political assistant to former federal Defence Minister
>> Peter MacKay and sought the federal Conservative nomination for
>> Fredericton for the 2008 election.
>>
>> After failing to win that nomination, he ran provincially in
>> Fredericton-Silverwood in 2010 and was elected. He was re-elected in
>> the newly created riding of Fredericton West-Hanwell in 2014, when he
>> defeated then-NDP leader Dominic Cardy.
>>
>> Macdonald ran for the leadership of the New Brunswick Progressive
>> Conservative Party but lost to Blaine Higgs. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
>>
>> In 2016, Macdonald ran for the PC leadership, placing sixth on the
>> first ballot out of seven candidates.
>>
>> Macdonald said he doesn't think his departure will hurt the provincial
>> party's chances of holding on to Fredericton West-Hanwell.
>>
>> "It's going to be very attractive to a number of high-calibre
>> candidates who are now beginning to come forward," he said.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:37:04 -0400
>>> Subject: Birth Certificates of David and Max Amos
>>> To: swilliams@mosherchedore.ca
>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Assistant (Property): Samantha Williams
>>>
>>> Direct Line: (506) 648-0373
>>> Email: swilliams@mosherchedore.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: mike gauvin <mikegauvin@live.ca>
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:29:25 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: 83 Valley Road FYI this is a document I may employ BTW I
>>> am in Saint John tommorrow attending a hearing at the EUB
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Tomorrow Iam going to talk to a guy that should do it.
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: October 11, 2018 11:38:58 AM
>>> To: mike gauvin; swilliams; serge.gauvin; mrichard; serge.rousselle;
>>> david.eidt
>>> Cc: David Amos; greg.byrne; brian.gallant; David.Coon;
>>> kris.austin@gnb.ca; blaine.higgs; robert.gauvin@gnb.ca
>>> Subject: Re: 83 Valley Road FYI this is a document I may employ BTW I
>>> am in Saint John tommorrow attending a hearing at the EUB
>>>
>>> http://www.legaldeeds.com/Interface/Services/Conveyances/Canada/NB/contract_of_purchase_and_sale_of_real_property/questionnaire.php
>>>
>>> New Brunswick Contract of Purchase and Sale of Real Property will
>>> provide you with a custom completed contract of purchase and sale of
>>> real property used in the sale of residential or recreational real
>>> estate in New Brunswick. This document is a must for anyone buying or
>>> selling a home or lot privately in New Brunswick.
>>>
>>> By simply answering a few questions our service will produce for you
>>> an online custom completed contract, ready to be signed by the buyer
>>> and the seller.
>>>
>>> This document includes simple and straight forward instructions to
>>> enable you to execute quickly and effortlessly. A subject removal form
>>> is also included for your convenience. The cost of the personalized
>>> Contract of Purchase and Sale is $15.00, payable in Canadian dollars.
>>> Within a few minutes, you will receive your completed PDF documents by
>>> email.
>>>
>>> To proceed, complete the entries.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/10/18, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Obviously I have the same problem with every lawyer in New Brunswick.
>>>>
>>>> If you still wish to follow though on the deal. I will do as I
>>>> promised and pay you in full and get you to swear out and purchase and
>>>> sale agreement properly witnessed by SNB and handle this matter
>>>> myself.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/18, mike gauvin <mikegauvin@live.ca> wrote:
>>>>> Mosher Chedore replied to me that it's a conflict and cannot represent
>>>>> me.
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: October 9, 2018 9:57:18 AM
>>>>> To: swilliams@mosherchedore.ca; mikegauvin@live.ca
>>>>> Cc: David Amos
>>>>> Subject: I have yet to receive a response Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>>>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:37:04 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Birth Certificates of David and Max Amos
>>>>> To: swilliams@mosherchedore.ca
>>>>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Assistant (Property): Samantha Williams
>>>>>
>>>>> Direct Line: (506) 648-0373
>>>>> Email: swilliams@mosherchedore.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: mike gauvin <mikegauvin@live.ca>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:56:14 +0000
>>>>> Subject: Re: Hey Kyle read real slow
>>>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey David, I tried to call Reid, no avail. I will call that Serge
>>>>> Gauvin guy Monday morning, this is getting ridiculous. I would just
>>>>> prefer to go through the proper legal channels.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours Truly, Michael Gauvin
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
 

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