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Methinks everybody in CBC knows that Tammy Scott-Wallace the minister responsible for
women's equality should also review the emails she requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas? Care workers suffer pay gap of up to $10 an hour, says coalition
New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says workers in women dominated industry paid less than they should be
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 2:43 PM AT
A report by the New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says workers in
the care sector, such as home care workers, crisis interveners and
caregivers in community residences, can be paid up to $10 less per hour
than they should be. (wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock)
An advocacy group is calling on the province to make wages in the women–dominated care sector more equitable.
A report by the New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says home care workers, crisis interveners and caregivers in community residences can be paid up to $10 less per hour than they should be.
The coalition, which includes 88 organizations including CUPE, New Brunswick Council of Nursing Home Unions and NB Special Care Home Association, said fair wages for workers in this sector would be between $22-25 an hour. But wages are much lower, ranging between $15.30 - $16.80 an hour.
Johanne Perron, the executive director of the coalition, said it can be difficult to determine the pay gap in an industry so dominated by women because it's not possible to compare the wages of men and women working the same job.
Instead they used a formula from Quebec's pay equity regime to determine how undervalued their work can be.
Perron said that's partly because the work has historically been done mostly by women.
"I think that we've been devaluing this work as a society for a long time," said Perron.
"First of all, we expect women to do it for free at home. I think it's changing and that's really positive. But I still see this, that we expect women to take care of children and vulnerable people and their families, more than men."
Long time coming
Nancy Tower, the assistant director of Oromocto Community Residences, said while things have improved since care workers used to be paid close to minimum wage, there's still a long way to go.
"There's no question about it, this field, this sector has been undervalued for the entire duration of my 36 years of employment," said Tower.
Perron says being chronically underpaid has had a huge impact on those working in the sector.
She said this causes many people to drop out and turnover is high.
"It's really hard to recruit new staff and it's hard to keep that staff," said Perron.
"The sector really is in crisis."
Tower said the high degree of accountability and responsibility in the care sector is not reflected in the wage workers earn, and they often leave.
"They realize over time that the workload on them is so overwhelming that they do end up leaving for a job that is perhaps a little easier, certainly a job that is better paid," said Tower.
"We've lost a lot of employees to call centres."
Narrow gap
Perron said the coalition wants the province to implement a five-year plan to address pay equity and bring in pay equity legislation for the private sector.
"We need a real plan to get to pay equity for the whole sector," said Perron.
In
a statement to CBC News Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister responsible
for women's equality, said she appreciates the work that has gone into
the report and will review it. (CBC)
"We're hoping that the government will really take into account our study."
In a statement to CBC News, Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister responsible for women's equality, said she appreciates the work that has gone into the report and will review it.
"We highly value the
contributions of these individuals and have included the caregiving
sector as part of the agreements for wage top ups being disbursed for
essential workers," said Scott-Wallace.
"In the longer term,
we recognize the wages and conditions for these valued workers need to
be considered as we work to address the sustainability of these valued
services."
With files from Information Morning Saint John
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Commenting is now closed for this story. David Amos
"In a
statement to CBC News Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister responsible for
women's equality, said she appreciates the work that has gone into the
report and will review it."
Methinks Scott-Wallace should also review the emails she requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
Methinks Scott-Wallace should also review the emails she requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
David Amos
If
anyone bothered to follow the crumbs offered within this article a
course Political Science is not required to understand that everything
political is always about the money and that governments always use our
taxpayer funds to court support for one political party or the other for
their benefit not ours. Methinks many ladies would agree that making
things a gender issue is just plain dumb N'esy Pas?
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study pay inequity and educate workers
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study pay inequity and educate workers
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study pay inequity and educate workers
· CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
Johanne Perron of the New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity, says
caregivers in private facilities are not currently being paid a fair
wage.
The minister for the status of woman was in Moncton on Tuesday to announce a grant of $335,000 for the New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity to address low wages being paid to women who work as caregivers in the private sector.
The New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity advocates education and legislation that would create the groundwork for implementing pay equity in both public and private sectors.
At the funding announcement, the group's executive director, Johanne Perron, said the money will go toward education and studies.
"We want the population to understand the value of caregiving work, we want the caregivers to understand what is pay equity so they can use pay equity justifications to get better wages and we also want to do job evaluations."
Perron said caregivers are often overlooked, because too many people see the work as a continuation of work historically done by women in the home, for free.
"Right now these women are not being paid fairly when you compare the value of their work with the value of jobs that are mostly done by men," she said.
MP
Maryam Monsef, federal minister of the status of women, says the
coalition will address the root causes of the pay equity problem for
caregivers. (Pierre Fournier/CBC)
She said caregivers are paid between $12 and $15 an hour, a wage she calls "insufficient" for the work done.
Maryam Monsef, the minister of the status of women, said the money is going toward the project proposed by the group, rather than straight into an increase of caregiver wages because the government wants to address system barriers.
"The solutions that we are looking for at status of women and the federal government are solutions that take into account the systemic barriers that prevent people, whether it's employees or employers, from reaching their full potential," Monsef said.
"Barriers can include the undervaluing of work done by woman, and that's not a problem that goes away by throwing money at it."
The announcement was made at the Autumn Lee Retirement Home, where Martha Demmons has lived for three years. She would like to see wages increased for the people who work there.
"It's very important ... of course, it should be to everybody."
Perron said her group relies heavily on the work of volunteers, but this grant will help to ensure more work is paid for.
"You do need some real, hard money sometimes to get things moving to ensure people can talk to each other, meet each other and do the work."
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:40:12 -0300
Subject: Re: I called today and talked to some people left a
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Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
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From: Maryam.Monsef@parl.gc.ca
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:40:12 -0300
Subject: Re: I called today and talked to some people left a
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info@equite-equity.com, moncef.lakouas@bgcmoncton.com
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:58:33 -0300
> Subject: I called and left a voicemail for Brad Regehr the latest CBA
> President immediately after listening to him talk on CBC about Chantel
> Moore, appointments of judges to Federal Court and David.Lametti etc
> To: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>
> "motomaniac333" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, news@aptn.ca,
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>
>
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>
>
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>
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>
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>
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> Jul 30, 2020
>
> NSNWA calling for more advocacy from AFN for ‘people we have lost.’
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 13:49:15 -0400
> Subject: Fwd Directors: I just called the CBA about Justice Richard
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> President
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>
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>
>
>
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Auto-reply from kevhache@nb.aibn.com" <kevhache@nb.aibn.com>
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 21:29:01 -0400
> Subject: Re: YO Daryl Branscombe Re My Calls to the Coalition of
> Concerned Citizens Why not ask Claude Landry or Don Bowser or Hon.
> Ralph Goodale if they like to golf?
> To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
> Bonjour
>
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>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "Hon.Ralph.Goodale (PS/SP)" <Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 22:20:12 +0000
> Subject: Automatic reply: Too Funny I just talked to Claude Landry
> Elvy Robichaud’s old Chief of Staff He forgot what went down in 2004
> and the emails I sent him since
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:51:06 +0000
> Subject: RE: I just called the CBA about Justice Richard Bell's former
> partner Raymond Addington's letter to all the politcal leaders before
> the election and was told Vivene Salmon is now the CBC President
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:50:52 -0400
> Subject: I just called the CBA about Justice Richard Bell's former
> partner Raymond Addington's letter to all the politcal leaders before
> the election and was told Vivene Salmon is now the CBC President
> To: denise.cameron@cbanb.com, vivene.a.salmon@baml.com,
> admin@cbanb.com, comlaw@uottawa.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, dg@bloc.org,
> "Gerald.Butts" <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau"
> <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>, "hon.ralph.goodale"
> <hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca>
>
> https://commonlaw.uottawa.ca/
>
>
> Vivene Salmon
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:16:38 -0400
> Subject: Attn Laura Lee Langley, Karen Hudson and Joanne Munro I just
> called all three of your offices to inform you of my next lawsuit
> against Nova Scotia
> To: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
> Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
> Cc: David Amos david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> https://novascotia.ca/exec_
>
> https://novascotia.ca/exec_
>
> Laura Lee Langley
> 1700 Granville Street, 5th Floor
> One Government Place
> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 1X5
> Phone: (902) 424-8940
> Fax: (902) 424-0667
> Email: LauraLee.Langley@novascotia.ca
>
> https://novascotia.ca/just/
>
> Karen Hudson Q.C.
> 1690 Hollis Street, 7th Floor
> Joseph Howe Building
> Halifax, NS B3J 3J9
> Phone: (902) 424-4223
> Fax: (902) 424-0510
> Email: Karen.Hudson@novascotia.ca
>
> https://novascotia.ca/sns/ceo.
>
> Joanne Munro:
> 1505 Barrington Street, 14-South
> Maritime Centre
> Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 3K5
> Phone: (902) 424-4089
> Fax: (902) 424-5510
> Email: Joanne.Munro@novascotia.ca
>
> If you don't wish to speak to me before I begin litigation then I
> suspect the Integrity Commissioner New Brunswick or the Federal Crown
> Counsel can explain the email below and the documents hereto attached
> to you and your Premier etc.
>
> Veritas Vincit
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> 902 800 0369
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 19:29:22 +0000
> Subject: RE: I received no response from the RCMP or the lawyer Derek
> Sloan about the voicemail I got from his Chief of Staff Benjamin
> Martin last week
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
> The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
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> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 16:29:05 -0300
> Subject: I received no response from the RCMP or the lawyer Derek
> Sloan about the voicemail I got from his Chief of Staff Benjamin
> Martin last week
> To: Derek.Sloan@parl.gc.ca, rick@petersoncapital.ca, "PETER.MACKAY"
> <PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.
> <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
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> michael.chong@parl.gc.ca, Erin.OToole@parl.gc.ca,
> "andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca \"Hannah.Thibedeau\""
> <Hannah.Thibedeau@cbc.ca>, "Catherine.Cullen"
> <Catherine.Cullen@cbc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
> newsroom@globeandmail.com, "Nathalie.Drouin"
> <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
> Speaker.President@parl.gc.ca, heather.bradley@parl.gc.ca, pm
> <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, info
> <info@lewislaw.ca>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:27:56 +0000
> Subject: RE: the RCMP and the lawyer Derek.Sloan can trust thati saved
> the voicemail I got from his Chief of Staff Benjamin Martin N'esy Pas
> Petey Baby MacKay?
> To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:27:37 -0300
> Subject: the RCMP and the lawyer Derek.Sloan can trust thati saved the
> voicemail I got from his Chief of Staff Benjamin Martin N'esy Pas
> Petey Baby MacKay?
> To: Derek.Sloan@parl.gc.ca, rick@petersoncapital.ca, "PETER.MACKAY"
> <PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.
> <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki" <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>,
> "barbara.massey" <barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> michael.chong@parl.gc.ca, Erin.OToole@parl.gc.ca,
> andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca
> Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "Hannah.Thibedeau"
> <Hannah.Thibedeau@cbc.ca>, "Catherine.Cullen"
> <Catherine.Cullen@cbc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
> "mc \"Newsroom\"" <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "Nathalie.Drouin"
> <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
>
> On 1/26/20, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
> >
> > Social conservative MP Derek Sloan running for Conservative
> > leadership, promises 'bold ideas'
> >
> > Sloan is trying to position himself as an alternative to 'boring"
> > candidates'
> > Catherine Cullen · CBC News · Posted: Jan 22, 2020 2:08 PM ET
> >
> >
> > https://www.ourcommons.ca/
> >
> > House of Commons *
> > Ottawa, Ontario,
> > Canada K1A 0A6
> > Telephone: 613-992-5321
> > Derek.Sloan@parl.gc.ca,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
> >
> > Businessman Rick Peterson is taking a second run at the Conservative
> > leadership
> >
> > 'I'm probably going to be the only candidate who has to meet a
> > payroll,' Peterson tells CBC News
> > Hannah Thibedeau · CBC News · Posted: Jan 22, 2020 1:15 PM ET
> >
> > https://www.petersoncapital.
> >
> >
> > Rick Peterson - President
> >
> > More than 30 years in Canadian capital markets. Investment Advisor,
> > institutional sales, investment banking experience at senior roles at
> > Midland Walwyn Capital Inc, Merrill Lynch Canada, Yorkton Securities
> > and HSBC Securities.
> >
> > Founded Peterson Capital in 2003; Conservative Party of Canada 2017
> > leadership - candidate
> >
> > 780-868-6822
> > rick@petersoncapital.ca
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> > <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:02:40 +0000
> > Subject: RE: Methinks Sylvie Gadoury the General Counsel of CBC should
> > agree that Marilyn Gladu has every right to know what everybody else
> > knows N'esy Pas Bill Morneau?
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:02:32 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Sylvie Gadoury the General Counsel
> > of CBC should agree that Marilyn Gladu has every right to know what
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> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:02:54 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Sylvie Gadoury the General Counsel
> > of CBC should agree that Marilyn Gladu has every right to know what
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> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: Erin.OToole@parl.gc.ca
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 21:02:54 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Methinks Sylvie Gadoury the General Counsel
> > of CBC should agree that Marilyn Gladu has every right to know what
> > everybody else knows N'esy Pas Bill Morneau?
> > To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:02:27 -0400
> > Subject: Methinks Sylvie Gadoury the General Counsel of CBC should
> > agree that Marilyn Gladu has every right to know what everybody else
> > knows N'esy Pas Bill Morneau?
> > To: Bill.Morneau@canada.ca, jbradley@canadian-republic.ca,
> > tfreda@canadian-republic.ca, info@canadian-republic.ca,
> > darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca, sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.ca
> > cra-arc.media@cra-arc.gc.ca, premier@ontario.ca,
> > Newsroom@globeandmail.com, sturgeon.nathalie@
> > news@dailygleaner.com, Hannah.Thibedeau@cbc.ca,
> > Catherine.Cullen@cbc.ca
> > Cc: Marilyn.gladu@parl.gc.ca, motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>,
> > pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca, erin.otoole@parl.gc.ca,
> > andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, michael.chong@parl.gc.ca,
> > Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca,
> > Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, PETER.MACKAY@bakermckenzie.com
> >
> >
> https://davidraymondamos3.
> >
> >
> > Wednesday, 15 January 2020
> >
> > Peter MacKay set to enter the Conservative leadership race today
> > https://twitter.com/
> >
> > David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
> > Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
> > I never heard of Marilyn Gladu so I called her to explain why MacKay
> > made my day but her assistant was too busy to check my Twitter account
> > to verify what I was saying was true so I told her to enjoy my email
> >
> >
> >
> https://davidraymondamos3.
> >
> > #nbpoli #cdnpoli
> >
> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/
> >
> > David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
> > Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 49 others
> > Methinks everybody knows why MacKay just made my day Trudeau The
> > Younger cannot deny that Petey Baby answered this lawsuit while Harper
> > was still the boss N'esy Pas?
> >
> >
> https://davidraymondamos3.
> >
> > #nbpoli #cdnpoli
> >
> > https://www.cbc.ca/news/
> >
> >
> > Peter MacKay set to enter the Conservative leadership race today
> > MacKay's leadership run has been in the rumour mill for months
> >
> > Catherine Cullen · CBC News · Posted: Jan 15, 2020 12:11 PM ET
> >
> > 1213 Comments
> >
> >
> > David Sampson
> > But will intelligent "progressive" conservatives ever forgive Peter
> > for giving away a once proud national political institution to a horde
> > of western based reform fundamentalists?
> >
> > Eugene Peabody
> > Reply to @David Sampson: Not only can former PC members not trust him
> > but Canadians cannot also.When a man.s word is no good ,he is the
> > same.
> >
> > Anne Clarke
> > Reply to @David Sampson: they will do anything to win right?
> >
> > Frank Paul
> > Reply to @David Sampson: Nope.
> >
> > Neil Denman
> > Reply to @David Sampson:
> > I have those feelings too: I have a hard time forgiving that. But, at
> > least there are signs that the next leader may be a PCer rather than a
> > Reformer. Peter Mackay, Jean Charest...I'm no fan of either, but it's
> > a step away from Harper and Scheer.
> >
> > David Raymond Amos
> > Reply to @David Sampson: Methinks everybody knows why MacKay just made
> > my day N'esy Pas?
> >
> > David Allan
> > Reply to @Neil Denman:
> > "I have those feelings too: I have a hard time forgiving that. But, at
> > least there are signs that the next leader may be a PCer rather than a
> > Reformer."
> >
> > He's a reformer now. He solidly demonstrated so with his last 9 years
> > in Parliament.
> > Or is he just an opportunist who doesn't really care aside from his
> > quest for personal power?
> >
> > Sean Cronin
> > Reply to @David Sampson:
> > I will. It's ancient history now.
> >
> > Art Rowe
> > Reply to @David Sampson:
> > Like there was ever a doubt he would run?
> >
> > David Raymond Amos
> > Reply to @David Raymond Amos: Methinks its comical that even Trudeau
> > The Younger cannot deny that Petey Baby answered my lawsuit in Federal
> > Court while Harper was still the boss N'esy Pas?
> >
> > Craig Hall
> > Reply to @David Sampson: Nobody cares except the Liberals. And David
> > Orchard.
> >
> > David Raymond Amos
> > Reply to @Craig Hall: I still do
> >
> > David Linkletter
> > Reply to @Frank Paul: cough robo calls to name but one
> >
> > David Raymond Amos
> > Reply to @Craig Hall: BTW I remember talking to David Orchard in early
> > 2004 about what went down and explained to him why I was preparing to
> > run for a seat in the 38th Parliament Furthermore I put proof of our
> > contact in a email which can still be found on the Internet to this
> > very day
> >
> > David Raymond Amos
> > Reply to @Craig Hall: By the same token I never heard of Marilyn Gladu
> > until I read this article so I called her to explain why MacKay made
> > my day but her assistant was too busy to check my Twitter account to
> > verify what I was saying was true so I told her to enjoy my email
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> > <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 17:55:17 +0000
> > Subject: RE: YO Tom Freda Say Hey Sylvie Gadoury the General Counsel
> > of CBC for me will ya?
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> > The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
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> > commentaires.
> >
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
> >> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
> >> Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
> >> To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Mr. Amos,
> >> We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
> >> Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
> >> Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
> >> of Nova Scotia. Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
> >> against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
> >> General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS. Please note that we will
> >> not be responding to further emails on this matter.
> >>
> >> Department of Justice
> >>
> >>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> >>> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> >>> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> >>> To: coi@gnb.ca
> >>> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> Good Day Sir
> >>>
> >>> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> >>> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
> >>>
> >>> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> >>> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> >>> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> >>> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
> >>>
> >>> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> >>> suggested that you study closely.
> >>>
> >>> This is the docket in Federal Court
> >>>
> >>>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
> >>>
> >>> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
> >>>
> >>> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
> >>>
> >>> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
> >>>
> >>> April 3rd, 2017
> >>>
> >>> https://archive.org/details/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
> >>>
> >>>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The only hearing thus far
> >>>
> >>> May 24th, 2017
> >>>
> >>> https://archive.org/details/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
> >>>
> >>> Date: 20151223
> >>>
> >>> Docket: T-1557-15
> >>>
> >>> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
> >>>
> >>> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
> >>>
> >>> BETWEEN:
> >>>
> >>> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> >>>
> >>> Plaintiff
> >>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> >>>
> >>> Defendant
> >>>
> >>> ORDER
> >>>
> >>> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> >>> December 14, 2015)
> >>>
> >>> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> >>> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> >>> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> >>> in its entirety.
> >>>
> >>> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> >>> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> >>> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> >>> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> >>> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
> >>> he stated:
> >>>
> >>> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> >>> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> >>> You are your brother’s keeper.
> >>>
> >>> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> >>> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> >>> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> >>> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> >>> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> >>> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> >>> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> >>> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> >>> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> >>> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> >>> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> >>> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> >>> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> >>> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> >>> Police.
> >>>
> >>> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> >>> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> >>> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> >>> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> >>> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> >>> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> >>> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> >>> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> >>> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> >>> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
> >>> is no order as to costs.
> >>>
> >>> “B. Richard Bell”
>>>> Judge
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> >>> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> >>> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
> >>>
> >>> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
> >>> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
> >>> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
> >>> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
> >>>
> >>> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the
> >>> most
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Original message ----------
> >>> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> >>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> >>> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> >>> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> >>> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> >>> dudes are way past too late
> >>> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> >>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> >>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
> >>>
> >>> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> >>> lalanthier@hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> >>> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Merci ,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> >>> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> >>> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> >>> five years after he began his bragging:
> >>>
> >>> January 13, 2015
> >>> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
> >>>
> >>> December 8, 2014
> >>> Why Canada Stood Tall!
> >>>
> >>> Friday, October 3, 2014
> >>> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> >>> Stupid Justin Trudeau
> >>>
> >>> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> >>> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
> >>>
> >>> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> >>> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> >>> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> >>> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> >>> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> >>> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> >>> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> >>> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
>>>> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> >>> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> >>> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> >>> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> >>> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> >>> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> >>> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> >>> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> >>> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> >>> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> >>> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> >>> campaign of 2006.
> >>>
> >>> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> >>> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> >>> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> >>> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
> >>>
> >>> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> >>> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> >>> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> >>> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> >>> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
> >>>
> >>> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> >>> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> >>> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> >>> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> >>> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> >>> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> >>> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> >>> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> >>> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
> >>>
> >>> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> >>> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
>>>> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> >>> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> >>> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
> >>>
> >>> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> >>> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> >>> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> >>> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
> >>>
> >>> Subject:
> >>> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> >>> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> >>> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> >>>
> >>> January 30, 2007
> >>>
> >>> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
> >>>
> >>> Mr. David Amos
> >>>
> >>> Dear Mr. Amos:
> >>>
> >>> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> >>> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
> >>>
> >>> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> >>> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> >>> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> >>> Minister of Health
> >>>
> >>> CM/cb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> >>> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >>> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> >>> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> >>> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> >>> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
> >>> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> >>> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >>> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> >>> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
> >>>
> >>> Dear Mr. Amos,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> >>> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> >>> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
> >>>
> >>> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> >>> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> >>> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> >>> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> >>> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> >>> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
> >>>
> >>> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> >>> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> >>> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> >>> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> >>> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
> >>>
> >>> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> >>> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> >>> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> >>> Traffic Services NCO
> >>> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> >>> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> >>> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> >>> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> >>> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> >>> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> >>> tel.: 506-457-7890
> >>> fax: 506-444-5224
> >>> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> >>> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
> >>>
> >>> http://thedavidamosrant.
> >>> ilian.html
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
> >>>>
> >>>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
> >>>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
> >>>>
> >>>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
> >>>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
> >>>> cards?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://archive.org/details/
> >>>> 6
> >>>>
> >>>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.archive.org/
> >>>>
> >>>> http://archive.org/details/
> >>>>
> >>>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
> >>>> Senator Arlen Specter
> >>>> United States Senate
> >>>> Committee on the Judiciary
> >>>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
> >>>> Washington, DC 20510
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Mr. Specter:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
> >>>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
> >>>> raised in the attached letter.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap
> >>>> tapes.
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this
> previously.
> >>>>
> >>>> Very truly yours,
> >>>> Barry A. Bachrach
> >>>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
> >>>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
> >>>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sunday, 19 November 2017
> >> Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
> >> It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
> >> The Supreme Court
> >>
> >>
> https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.
> >>
> >>
> >> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> >>
> >> Amos v. Canada
> >> Court (s) Database
> >>
> >> Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
> >> Date
> >>
> >> 2017-10-30
> >> Neutral citation
> >>
> >> 2017 FCA 213
> >> File numbers
> >>
> >> A-48-16
> >> Date: 20171030
> >>
> >> Docket: A-48-16
> >> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> >> CORAM:
> >>
> >> WEBB J.A.
> >> NEAR J.A.
> >> GLEASON J.A.
> >>
> >>
> >> BETWEEN:
> >> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> >> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> >> (and formally Appellant)
> >> and
> >> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> >> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> >> (and formerly Respondent)
> >> Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
> >> Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
> >> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
> >>
> >> THE COURT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: 20171030
> >>
> >> Docket: A-48-16
> >> Citation: 2017 FCA 213
> >> CORAM:
> >>
> >> WEBB J.A.
> >> NEAR J.A.
> >> GLEASON J.A.
> >>
> >>
> >> BETWEEN:
> >> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
> >> Respondent on the cross-appeal
> >> (and formally Appellant)
> >> and
> >> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> >> Appellant on the cross-appeal
> >> (and formerly Respondent)
> >> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
> >>
> >> I. Introduction
> >>
> >> [1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
> >> filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
> >> against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
> >> in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
> >> Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
> >> properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
> >> that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
> >> Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
> >> (Claim at para. 96).
> >>
> >> [2] On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
> >> motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
> >> Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
> >> amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
> >> disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
> >> and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
> >> Prothontary’s Order).
> >>
> >>
> >> [3] On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
> >> Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
> >> Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
> >> Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
> >> for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
> >> 2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
> >>
> >>
> >> [4] Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
> >> Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
> >> Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
> >> As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
> >> cross-appeal.
> >>
> >>
> >> II. Preliminary Matter
> >>
> >> [5] Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
> >> relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
> >> 6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
> >> the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
> >> This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
> >> had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
> >> Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
> >> several judges but did not name those judges.
> >>
> >> [6] Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
> >> identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
> >> had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
> >> with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
> >> Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
> >> the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
> >> subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
> >> c. F-7:
> >>
> >>
> >> 5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
> >> office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
> >> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
> >> Appeal.
> >> […]
> >>
> >> 5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
> >> d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
> >> les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
> >> […]
> >> 5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
> >> that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
> >> jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
> >>
> >> 5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
> >> Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
> >> juges de la Cour fédérale.
> >>
> >>
> >> [7] However, these subsections only provide that the
> >> judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
> >> versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
> >> Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
> >> section.
> >> [8] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide
> >> that:
> >> 3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> >> — Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
> >> Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
> >> continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
> >> for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
> >> a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
> >>
> >> 3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
> >> fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
> >> français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
> >> à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
> >> Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
> >> continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
> >> matière civile et pénale.
> >> 4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
> >> — Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
> >> English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
> >> additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
> >> the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
> >> court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
> >>
> >> 4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
> >> première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
>>> Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
> >> maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
> >> d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
> >> canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
> >> compétence en matière civile et pénale.
> >>
> >>
> >> [9] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
> >> two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
> >> (section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
> >> Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
> >> need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
> >> Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
> >> to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
> >> file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
> >> decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
> >> that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
> >> appeal book.
> >>
> >>
> >> [10] Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
> >> March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
> >> Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
> >> conflict in any matter related to him.
> >>
> >>
> >> [11] On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
> >> before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
> >> conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
> >> Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
> >> Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
> >> Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
> >> Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
> >> cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
> >> Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
> >> will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
> >> before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
> >> relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
> >>
> >>
> >> [12] During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
> >> the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
> >> submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
> >> conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
> >> afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
> >> that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
> >> view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
> >> documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
> >> documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
> >> judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
> >> copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
> >> such judge had a conflict.
> >>
> >>
> >> [13] The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
> >> that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
> >> 2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
> >> that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
> >> had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
> >> therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
> >> of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
> >> personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
> >> Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
> >> was a member of such firm.
> >>
> >>
> >> [14] During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
> >> appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
> >> focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
> >> Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
> >> the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
> >> particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
> >> lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
> >> after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
> >> Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> [15] The documents that he submitted in relation to the
> >> alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
> >> Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
> >> Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
> >> practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
> >> Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
> >> who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
> >> affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
> >> that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
> >> letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
> >> Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
> >> Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
> >> “John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
> >> Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
> >> possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
> >> [16] Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
> >> was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
> >> Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
> >> 259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
> >> judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
> >> apprehension of bias:
> >> 60 In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
> >> criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
> >> Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
> >> Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
> >> reasonable apprehension of bias:
> >> … the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
> >> reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
> >> question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
> >> of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
> >> viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
> >> the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
> >> than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
> >> unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
> >>
> >> [17] The issue to be determined is whether an informed
> >> person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
> >> thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
> >> give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
> >> previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
> >> administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
> >> rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
> >> Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
> >> also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
> >> (4th) 193).
> >>
> >> [18] The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
> >> Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
> >> Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
> >> particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
> >> case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
> >> involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
> >> Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
> >> judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
> >> lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
> >> determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
> >> rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
> >> 27 Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
> >> finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
> >> which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
> >> as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
> >>
> >>
> >> 28 The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
> >> asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
> >> the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
> >> taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
> >> defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
> >> judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
> >> Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
> >> Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
> >> there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
> >> and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
> >>
> >>
> >> 29 It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
> >> inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
> >> different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
> >> judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
> >> of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
> >> conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
> >> involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
> >> in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
> >> for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
> >> interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
> >> statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
> >> information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
> >> opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
> >> His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
> >> had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
> >> unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
> >>
> >>
> >> 30 That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
> >> of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
> >> disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
> >> two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
> >> recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
> >> that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
> >> that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
> >> time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
> >> To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
> >> the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
> >> involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
> >> the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
> >> circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
> >> or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
> >> 31 There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
> >> Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
> >> trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
> >> been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
> >> his former firm for a considerable period of time.
> >>
> >>
> >> 32 In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
> >> realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
> >> and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
> >> of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
> >> in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
> >> In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
> >> trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
> >> his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
> >> decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
> >> either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
> >> client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
> >> off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
> >> client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
> >> earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
> >> events from over a decade ago.
> >> (emphasis added)
> >>
> >> [19] Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
> >> involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
> >> Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
> >> clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
> >> alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
> >> Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
> >> Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
> >> Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
> >> had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
> >> was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
> >> involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
> >> with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
> >> sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
> >> Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
> >> also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
> >> Webb hearing this appeal.
> >>
> >> [20] Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
> >> (2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
> >> reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
> >> the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
> >> with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
> >>
> >> [21] In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
> >> F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
> >> reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
> >> lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
> >> was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
> >> Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
> >> Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
> >>
> >> [22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
> >> stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
> >> of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
> >> He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
> >> entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
> >> and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
> >> to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
> >> police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
> >> enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
> >> conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
> >>
> >> [23] As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
> >> apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
> >> to recuse himself.
> >>
> >> [24] Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
> >> experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
> >> the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
> >> confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
> >> Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
> >>
> >> [25] Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
> >> Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
> >> that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
> >> a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
> >> both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
> >> Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
> >> begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
> >> you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
> >> was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
> >> Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
> >> for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
> >> not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
> >>
> >>
> >> III. Issue
> >>
> >> [26] The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
> >> Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
> >> in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
> >> Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
> >> legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
> >>
> >> IV. Analysis
> >>
> >> A. Standard of Review
> >>
> >> [27] Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
> >> Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
> >> be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
> >> made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
> >> Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
> >> 402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
> >> this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
> >> articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
> >> [Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
> >> Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
> >> prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
> >> case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
> >> the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
> >> error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
> >> law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
> >> a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
> >> if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
> >> determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
> >> (Hospira at paras. 82-83).
> >>
> >> [28] In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
> >> assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
> >> must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
> >> erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
> >> interfere.
> >>
> >>
> >> B. Did the Judge err in interfering with the
> >> Prothonotary’s Order?
> >>
> >> [29] The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
> >> paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
> >> Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
> >>
> >> 17. Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
> >> addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
> >> of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
> >> in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
> >> the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
> >> the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
> >> or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
> >> does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
> >> (…)
> >>
> >>
> >> 21. The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
> >> provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
> >> the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
> >> Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
> >> determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
> >> A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
> >> only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
> >> best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
> >> suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
> >> [footnotes omitted].
> >>
> >>
> >> [30] The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
> >> on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
> >> that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
> >> liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
> >> who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
> >> included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
> >> the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
> >> paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
> >> identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
> >> Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
> >> para. 27).
> >>
> >>
> >> [31] The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
> >> cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
> >> identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
> >> 2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
> >>
> >>
> >> [13] As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
> >> 69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
> >> determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
> >> element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
> >>
> >> a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
> >> conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
> >>
> >> b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
> >> conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
> >>
> >> c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
> >> officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
> >> public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
> >> Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
> >> (Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
> >>
> >> [32] The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
> >> material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
> >> public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
> >> Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
> >> “political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
> >>
> >> [33] This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
> >> in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
> >> D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
> >>
> >> …When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
> >> assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
> >> negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
> >> “The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
> >> upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
> >> conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
> >> of process…
>>>
> >> To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
> >> requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
> >> out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
> >> officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
> >> office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
> >> mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
> >> allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
> >> a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
>>> (at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
> >>
> >> [34] Applying the Housen standard of review to the
> >> Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
> >> absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
> >>
> >> [35] The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
> >> disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
> >> basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
> >> ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
> >> the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
> >> engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
> >> conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
> >> faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
> >> the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
> >> these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
> >> non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
> >> Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
> >> the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
> >> barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
> >> supporting a cause of action.
> >>
> >> [36] In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
> >> allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
> >> reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
> >> Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
> >> Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
> >> find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
> >> The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
> >> amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
> >>
> >> V. Conclusion
> >> [37] For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
> >> cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
> >> dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
> >> November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
> >> without leave to amend.
> >> "Wyman W. Webb"
> >> J.A.
> >> "David G. Near"
> >> J.A.
> >> "Mary J.L. Gleason"
> >> J.A.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
> >> NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
> >>
> >> A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
> >> JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
> >> DOCKET:
> >>
> >> A-48-16
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> STYLE OF CAUSE:
> >>
> >> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> PLACE OF HEARING:
> >>
> >> Fredericton,
> >> New Brunswick
> >>
> >> DATE OF HEARING:
> >>
> >> May 24, 2017
> >>
> >> REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
> >>
> >> WEBB J.A.
> >> NEAR J.A.
> >> GLEASON J.A.
> >>
> >> DATED:
> >>
> >> October 30, 2017
> >>
> >> APPEARANCES:
> >> David Raymond Amos
> >>
> >>
> >> For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
> >> (on his own behalf)
> >>
> >> Jan Jensen
> >>
> >>
> >> For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
> >>
> >> SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
> >> Nathalie G. Drouin
> >> Deputy Attorney General of Canada
> >>
> >> For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:33:00 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Notice of Harassment I am certain that Rob Moore and the
> > RCMP can explain my concerns with questionable lawyers and their
> > actions CORRECT?
> > To: Pantea Jafari <jafari@jafarilaw.ca>
> > Cc: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Tugrul Pinar
> > <admin@jafarilaw.ca>, "mgreene@sgimm.ca" <mgreene@sgimm.ca>,
> > "media@blaineimmigration.com" <media@blaineimmigration.com>,
> > "Sophia.Harris" <Sophia.Harris@cbc.ca>, "Bill.Blair"
> > <Bill.Blair@parl.gc.ca>, "Bill.Morneau" <Bill.Morneau@canada.ca>,
> > "Mark.Blakely" <Mark.Blakely@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "martin.gaudet"
> > <martin.gaudet@fredericton.ca>
> > <mark.vespucci@ci.irs.gov>, "jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca"
> > <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>, "carl.urquhart"
> > <carl.urquhart@gnb.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Gerald.Butts"
> > <Gerald.Butts@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford"
> > <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "rob.moore" <rob.moore@parl.gc.ca>,
> > washington field <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Brenda.Lucki"
> > <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>,
> > "barbara.massey" <barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Barbara Massey <Barbara.Massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:28:58 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Notice of Harassment (Out of Office )
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> > I am out of the office until Wednesday, January 22, 2020, and will not
> > be accessing my Emails. For any urgencies, you may contact Jolene
> > Harvey, General Counsel @ 613 843 4892., or my admin assistant, Sandra
> > Lofaro 613 843 3540..
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Je suis absent du bureau jusqu'au 22 janvier 2020, et je n'accéderai à
> > mes courriéls. Pour toute urgence,.vous pouvez communiquer avec Jolene
> > Harvey, Avocate générale, au 613 843 4892 ou avec mon adjointe admin.
> > Sandra Lofaro 613 843 3540.
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Moore, Rob - M.P." <Rob.Moore@parl.gc.ca>
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:28:33 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Notice of Harassment
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> > On behalf of the Honourable Rob Moore, P.C., M.P. thank you for your
> > email. Our office appreciates the time you took to get in touch with
> > our office. Due to the high volume of email correspondence our office
> > receives, below is a guide on how your email will be responded to:
> >
> > Constituent of Fundy Royal:
> >
> > The constituents of Fundy Royal are our office’s priority. Please
> > ensure to include your full contact details on your email and the
> > appropriate staff will be able to action your request. We strive to
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> > manner.
> >
> > If your query is case related (i.e. immigration, CPP, EI, CRA, etc.),
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> >
> > If your question or concern is time sensitive, please call our office:
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> >
> > Event Invitations and Meeting Requests:
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> > If you have sent meeting request or an event invitation, we sincerely
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> > Invitations for Fundy Royal are managed in the riding office and
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> > If you are not a Fundy Royal resident, given the high volume of emails
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> >
> > Again, we sincerely appreciate you taking the time to contact the
> > office of the Honourable Rob Moore.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "MinFinance / FinanceMin (FIN)"
> > <fin.minfinance-financemin.
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:28:22 +0000
> > Subject: RE: Notice of Harassment
> > To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> >
> > The Department of Finance acknowledges receipt of your electronic
> > correspondence. Please be assured that we appreciate receiving your
> > comments.
> >
> > Le ministère des Finances accuse réception de votre correspondance
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> > commentaires.
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
> > Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:55:46 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by
> > CBC for the benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote
> > on Brian Gallant
> > To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
> >
> > Thank you for writing to the Honourable Jody Wilson-Raybould, Member
> > of Parliament for Vancouver Granville.
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> > mcu@justice.gc.ca<mailto:mcu@
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > Merci d'?crire ? l'honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould, d?put?e de
> > Vancouver Granville.
> >
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> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: "Jensen, Jan" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:55:11 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by
> > CBC for the benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote
> > on Brian Gallant
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > I will be away from the office and not returning until Monday,
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> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: Newsroom <newsroom@globeandmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:55:43 +0000
> > Subject: Automatic reply: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by
> > CBC for the benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote
> > on Brian Gallant
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
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> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 06:55:07 -0400
> > Subject: Here is the latest malicious trick pulled by CBC for the
> > benefit of the LIEbranos just before the confidence vote on Brian
> > Gallant
> > To: "terry.seguin" <terry.seguin@cbc.ca>, "Alex.Johnston"
> > <Alex.Johnston@cbc.ca>, "darrow.macintyre" <darrow.macintyre@cbc.ca>,
> > Hon.ralph.goodale@canada.ca, "Pierre.Paul-Hus.a1"
> > <Pierre.Paul-Hus.a1@parl.gc.ca
> > <pierre.poilievre.a1@parl.gc.
> > ps.publicsafetymcu-
> > <ralph.goodale@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
> > "Jody.Wilson-Raybould" <Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
> > "clare.barry" <clare.barry@justice.gc.ca>, "david.hansen"
> > <david.hansen@justice.gc.ca>, Newsroom <Newsroom@globeandmail.com>,
> > "Dale.Morgan" <Dale.Morgan@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "david.eidt"
> > <david.eidt@gnb.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>,
> > "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon"
> > <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
> > lorri.warner@justice.gc.ca, "jan.jensen" <jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca>,
> > "Nathalie.Drouin" <Nathalie.Drouin@justice.gc.ca
> > <bill.pentney@justice.gc.ca>, "andrew.baumberg"
> > <andrew.baumberg@fct-cf.gc.ca>
> > <Norman.Sabourin@cjc-ccm.gc.ca
> > "marc.giroux" <marc.giroux@fja-cmf.gc.ca>, "Brenda.Lucki"
> > <Brenda.Lucki@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>, "Liliana.Longo"
> > <Liliana.Longo@rcmp-grc.gc.ca>
> > <washington.field@ic.fbi.gov>, "Boston.Mail" <Boston.Mail@ic.fbi.gov>,
> > english@rcinet.ca, "kennedy.stewart" <kennedy.stewart@parl.gc.ca>,
> > pvanloan@airdberlis.com, nicola.diiorio@bcf.ca, "Nicola.DiIorio"
> > <Nicola.DiIorio@parl.gc.ca>, "Catherine.Tait" <Catherine.Tait@cbc.ca>,
> > "sylvie.gadoury" <sylvie.gadoury@radio-canada.
> > <Sophia.Harris@cbc.ca>
> > Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> > <macpherson.don@dailygleaner.
> > <David.Akin@globalnews.ca>, "steve.murphy" <steve.murphy@ctv.ca>,
> > news919 <news919@rogers.com>, sfine <sfine@globeandmail.com>, news
> > <news@hilltimes.com>, news <news@kingscorecord.com>, newstips
> > <newstips@cnn.com>
> >
> > ethinks after all my phone calls emails, tweets, blogs and lawsuit CBC
> > and Brian Galllant can never claim that they didn't know the score
> > N'esy Pas?
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > From: "Gallant, Premier Brian (PO/CPM)" <Brian.Gallant@gnb.ca>
> > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:11:27 +0000
> > Subject: RE: Not long after CBC closed a comment section and erased
> > one of my comments I hear Terry Seguin talking to Sophia Harris about
> > money and shook my head
> > To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> >
> > Thank you for writing to the Premier of New Brunswick. Please be
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> >
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> >
>
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 02:44:13 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: CBC's latest spin and malicious control of
the narative on "New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity" and
"Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months" and
"COVID-19"
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 02:44:13 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: CBC's latest spin and malicious control of
the narative on "New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity" and
"Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months" and
"COVID-19"
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks everybody in CBC knows that Tammy Scott-Wallace the minister
responsible for women's equality should also review the emails she
requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Care workers suffer pay gap of up to $10 an hour, says coalition
New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says workers in women dominated
industry paid less than they should be
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 2:43 PM AT
23 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
"In a statement to CBC News Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister
responsible for women's equality, said she appreciates the work that
has gone into the report and will review it."
Methinks Scott-Wallace should also review the emails she requested of
me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
David Amos
If anyone bothered to follow the crumbs offered within this article a
course Political Science is not required to understand that everything
political is always about the money and that governments always use
our taxpayer funds to court support for one political party or the
other for their benefit not ours. Methinks many ladies would agree
that making things a gender issue is just plain dumb N'esy Pas?
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study
pay inequity and educate workers
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
https://twitter.com/
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bullshit about me
perhaps Higgy et al should explain real slow my status as an American
resident to Lou their evil and very mindless spin doctor N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months
Lauren Bird · CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 7:00 AM AT
18 Comments
David Amos
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Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bs about me perhaps
Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor little Lou real slow
my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks whereas I am a Canadian Citizen born and raised who ran for
public office 7 times thus far and even sued the Queen while Higgy et
al keeps a "Stay" on my right to have Medicare card Alex LeBlanc
should mention my name to somebody ASAP N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: You claimed you were a dual citizen . Did trump
revoke your Obamacare ?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Everybody knows I am no such thing
Lauren Fisher
@Jack Rodnies-Or how about you leave and make room for them who are
clearly better people.
Jack Rodnies
Reply to @Lauren Fisher: how about no i was born here and have no
doctor or heathcare mysrlf
David Amos
Reply to @Jack Rodnies: At least you have a medicare card
https://twitter.com/
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks there would be very different twist on things today if a few
members of Higgy's Police State had won some seats in up in the
Campbellton area N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 4 new cases, outbreak at special care home in Balmoral
New isolation rules for travelling workers
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 1:15 PM AT
203 Comments
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PHIL INNIS
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The only isolation should be for people who are worried about getting
it. 99% survival rate
BuT WhAt aBoUt YoUr GrAnDpArEnts ?.............they had a good run.
Stay inside or die from fear
Nicholas Rioux
Content disabled
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Did you know that 20% of seniors live in
households containing non seniors? And that 25% of households have
someone with a disability? Granted not all disabilities will mean
someone at risk but then none of this includes people with chronic
conditions that ARE at risk but don't count as disabled.
So that's very likely half or more households containing elderly and
other at risk people with those of little risk.
Can you tell us how you would isolate all those folk who are at risk
but sharing the same homes as the others?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: I would leave it up for the old folks such I to
decide whether they wish to live in fear or not
PHIL INNIS
Content disabled
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux: I wouldn't isolate them at all and have a
family discussion about the pitfalls of life. Instead of THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE being out of work and having children starve, we use logic and
let nature run its course. Its crass I know but its more than fair.
PHIL INNIS
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: exactly
Les Cooper
So is this proof that masks are not working?
I dont know why province doesnt set up Covid testing at the airports .
Would save a lot of covid issues. Make it mandatory to leave airport
when arriving
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Methinks a virus doesn't follow Higgy's orders
the passenger may leave as ordered however the pesky little thing may
stay if it wishes N'esy Pas?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Les Cooper: they aren’t sick when they are flying in. Just
have the virus in the easy bake oven. That is why the spread is
happening. It gets shedding days later, and then they say, oh, I guess
I brought the virus back with me from my travels.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: That's why we need multiple tests - along with
isolation - so that cases can be identified asap so contact tracing
can jump ahead and we can ensure the virus is contained.
People are traveling among the Atlantic Bubble on planes with people
who are going to quarantine once they land. This is a big risk. If you
fly, it should be mandatory for testing to occur multiple times to
catch cases asap. Maybe this would be a good use for the rapid
testing, for those who are traveling.
Testing should not release you from work-isolating or from quarantine
too early - because that isn't the most important thing - it should be
used to identify cases sooner so contact tracing can happen in a
timely manner to get ahead of the virus to break the chains. The
sooner this can happen, the smaller the cluster, the less likely it
will spread via community transmission. If you can link all cases to
travel, we all are better off. Once you can't track the source of
infection, it does not bode well and you cannot predict where the
virus is heading and you're left fighting blind, with the only option
to assume the entire community has it - because they could - and we
all have to be still. It's better to be proactive, than reactive.
If you have multiple tests within x amount of days, it could be shown
that most cases are identifiable within 10 days, rather than the full
14 days it could take for symptoms to show. It's hard to say. This
article is really good and explains how doing anything for these
exemptions would be infinitely better than what we were doing. There's
still risk there, but it's much, much better than what we were doing,
which was simply not enough.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Les Cooper
Reply to @Bill Henry: so we get tested right away anyway
Brian Robertson
Campbelltown, Campbelltown. Why is it always around Campbelltown?
Oh yes.
That's where they opened the bubble to a part of Quebec; an area over
which we had NO control.
Who thought that was a good idea?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Brian Robertson: It's always around Campbellton because
that''s the zone that's had the most cases and the most death -
despite not having anywhere near as many residents as some other
zones. Now as to why that would be, that's still an open question. The
bubble with Avignon is certainly one of the possibilities. But the
bubble also included Zone 4 (Edmundston) and Temiscouata. So why
didn't the bubble cause a similar rise in cases in Zone 4?
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Why zone 5 and not zone 4? The best theory
is because Campbellton sits 40 minutes away from Carleton QC. Carleton
is the Gateway to the Gaspe and is a favorite vacation spot for Quebec
City, Montreal and the Eastern Townships. With travel restrictions
this summer and fall, Carleton was overflowing with Quebec Tourists.
Carleton is also frequented by NB residents and was open for day
passes all summer. When this is all over you should really visit the
area. Great beaches with friendly bilingual service.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Brian Robertson: C-a-m-p-b-e-l-l-T-O-N.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Luke Caissy: It's also an area where government rules and
regulations are given lip service, at best, by many residents.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Luke Caissy: That makes more sense than any other theory
I've heard to date. Any skiing tourism, or can we expect a drop in
tourists come the winter?
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Luke Caissy: if one likes rocky beaches vs the nice sand
beaches of southern NB or PE. But there is 'nude' bathing at Carleton
not far from Bleu Heron restaurant.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bob Smith: Is that true of the Campbellton area more so than
the Edmundston area?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Well, that would certainly be a draw for some!
David Amos
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Cry me a river The folks up in Campbellton
have done nothing wrong at all. Methinks there would be very different
twist on things today if a few members of Higgy's Police State had won
some seats in the region recently N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Campbellton area. Terms like "squatters",
"bootleggers" and other terms are still heard in areas like
Robinsonville and such.
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Snowmobiling is huge on the Gaspe, but the
main draw for Carleton is the water.
SarahRose Werner
"they will be able to access: necessities of life and supporting
services, health care, goods and services required for work, banking
and financial services, transportation, child care, animal care, and
funeral or visitation services for members of their immediate family."
- Maybe if the government had listed what people *can't* access during
modified self-isolation, it might be a shorter list?
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: it’s a global pandemic. New Brunswick has
done remarkably well. Hang in there girl a few more months.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Agreed that NB has done remarkably
well. Let's keep doing well! :-) I think it's going to be more than a
*few* more months, however. I'd love to be wrong.
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: You will be wrong - we’re at peak and
numbers will start to decline as the death rate has already done so.
You’re okay Sarah!
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: We might be at the peak of the second
wave. But until we have vaccines and/or treatments that are safe,
effective and widely available, there's nothing to stop us from having
successive waves. Pragmatism has always stood me in good stead. :-)
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yea Right
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Who would ever take a vaccine for a virus
which is clearly not that contagious, less than 0.6% across Canada
have tested positive, nor deadly; = 3.5% of all deaths in 2019. For
this, we destroy peoples lives for generations to come.
Donald Gallant
Perhaps not a good idea to hire across zones might be a thought.
Les Cooper
Reply to @Donald Gallant: there are doctors at the Fredericton
Hospital that commute back and forth from Montreal etc. Will they be
quarantined??
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Good question
Fred Dee
Reply to @Les Cooper: who??
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Dee: several. No names.
They are bilingual and get paid ton to rent in Freddy. 3 in my neighborhood.
Bill Henry
What does it mean when you have a blue circle by your post.
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Bill Henry: bill gates is going to give you covid
David Amos
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Oh My My
Dave Cudmore
Reply to @Bill Henry:
You're in danger of becoming a conservative.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dave Cudmore: ROTFL
Roy Kirk
Do the new rules apply to people travelling on charter/private
aircraft. If so, how are they keeping track?
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk Go figure
Bill Henry
Geez Lou, you’re posts were the only sensible ones on here. Now you
sunk down to the rest of us
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks folks must make allowances for
conservative spin doctors not playing with a full deck However they
really should mind their mouth and quit putting their foot in it after
stepping in their own BS or they may wind up awful ill and not from a
pesky virus N'esy Pas?
Marie Buckley
Time to get our " Guy Lafleurs " up North under control.o
David Amos
Reply to @Marie Buckley: ???
Bill Henry
Will be like the us. People will start taking government to court to
prove they cannot restrict Canadians to their houses.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Yup
Bob Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: A bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Bob Smith: I think Higgs is reaching outside his powers. May
take a judge to tell him
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bill Henry: Every province across the country is restricting
people to their houses under specific circumstances and has been doing
so since March. It's not just Higgs.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Bill Henry: Who is going to take the time to do this? Be
dragged through the mud, chastized for challenging the government? I'd
have to stay in NB for longer than I care at this time, so it's not
me. I'd rather go home, get stuff sorted out and then leave a few days
later. forced confinement for just a few days every 4 months or so.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: So that makes it ok then, sure.
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Bill Henry
Terry Tibbs or Amos, do these changes help your cause?
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: What cause?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
What changes?
Nothing specific has been said and we both know what a politician's
promise is worth?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: ok, I’m reading the same. Nothing has changed.
What is a modified self isolation.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
Exactly what is supposed to exist, but doesn't. It's a shell and pea game.
Randy McNally
Reply to @Bill Henry: I'm still trying to figure out what a modified bubble is
Bill Henry
So no change then. What a joke.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Figured it out have ya?
Nick Papagorgio
It's absurd to have stricter isolation rules for people traveling
outside the bubble for work. Does the government not care about the
economy and mental health? These restrictions should only come into
effect when the hospitals are at capacity. People are losing their
jobs and businesses because of the restrictions put forth by the
government. A perfect example is WestJet cancelling all routes in and
out of NB - the bubble is to blame. That's only some of the jobs that
were lost, I can't imagine how many more there are.
Bill Henry
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: there is absolutely no change
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose
N'esy Pas?
Les Cooper
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Air Canada will be next. Then essential
workers will be unemployed and collecting EI cheques from NB. Lol
Mary Smith
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: NS and PEI have similar policies in place
for weeks or months now. The idea is that the exemptions to the
quarantines are the weak links. If the virus is not here in the
Atlantic Bubble then that means that not all people coming in will
bring it in, but that it MUST be brought in from outside the Atlantic
Bubble.
It is better to be proactive in a pandemic than reactive. It is better
for work, the economy, hospitals, mental health, etc if we focus on
the weak links ..
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: "...come into affect when hospitals are at
capacity..." A large reason for the the plan is to keep the system by
waiting until at capacity when it would be hell.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: So Nick, where do you travel for work?
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Nope, they do not care about people, and
they do not understand the science either. But, the majority of the
voters wanted this, so there you are. I wonder how many of these
workers voted for Higgs?
Stephan Sommers
The two of them are going to restrict NB into poverty. But hey it’s in
the name of health right.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
How so?
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Oh, just let in the diseased is the best
policy ? Let's take a vote on who's got / made the best decisions ,
you , or the 2 you refer to ! You lose 100 times outta 100
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Where is westjet or via rail or tourism at
these days? What else is NB’ers willing to give up in the name of
health. By the time this is over the east coast will be in a real bad
spot. I hope I’m wrong because I love living here.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You don't know?
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: we could just test people two day prior and again
when they have been here for 24 h then all is well. Look at Bermuda,
they do that with all foreign workers and tourist. Nice try.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Better than letting the positive tested in
. But you can get out if you'd prefer , nothings holding you from
leaving, other than if other places let you in . But go ahead , we
sure won't hold you back !
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
Westjet and Via are just pandering for government money.
Tourism is, for the most part, poorly paid, benefit free, seasonal
work, no great loss. Hopefully those folks find real jobs and the
operators go under.
Clearly you didn't get the memo? Immigrants are going to save us.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: So you got nothing right on.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: I think my NB employees would prefer I keep
business here. That being said I also have a rental in ON and FL.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: VIA Rail hasn't served anywhere east of
Quebec City are from beginning & won't for immediate future. For that
VIA I don't know why they put on service from C'ton to Halifax since
the bubble began.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: It's not even in the name of health now.
Jake Quinlan
"Because the vast majority of the province's cases originate outside
the Atlantic bubble"
No, in the Atlantic provinces, they all do, ultimately. We (the 4
provinces) "got to zero" multiple times. We never had "embers of
virus" burning all summer long like other provinces. Now (last several
weeks) of course, we can say not all cases originate from outside
bubble - we have community spread in places.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jake Quinlan: If you want to get technical , ALL cases in
the world , except for the country of origin of the 1st cases are
travel related cases ! Does that make you feel better ?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you must feel better now that you got
that off you chest N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to @Lou Bell: Don't feel better (or worse) as I already had
figured out that all cases outside China are "travel related".
Ian Scott
Took a while but finally learned that having contract workers come and
go from hots zones not a good idea. Public has been saying it for 2
weeks. Yes we realize that they are needed , maybe.But not when going
into publics spaces with close contact quarters or LTC's. You could
see it coming. Now 6 dead and positives continue. Wonder about all the
airline folks that came in with Freddy and Moncton dudes.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ian Scott:
When you make your living telling tall tales you tend to discount
everything anyone else says.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh So True
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Telling tales? You're the one that said they
had stopped making references to cases being travel related when all
that happened was having all that mass testing to deal with and the
next day's report they used travel related again.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
It isn't me "playing hard and fast" with the truth in this province.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nor I
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: But you said something that was disproven the
very next day. Face it, you thought "conspiracy" when it was just a
delay.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
There are several active conspiracies around covid 19, you should
start paying attention, they can't even keep their stories straight
from day to day.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Ian Scott: Who brought in the cases and who did they infect
? Most of us don't know , but it appears you know it all ! Please
entice us with all you know , oh great one .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You should know if anyone here would . But we
've come to recognize your frailties
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: There's one big conspiracy , and it's yours
Fred Sanford
It`ll be interesting to see how they make the "modified" isolation
work. NB has a lot of people that work in other provinces and return
home for 1 week on a 3 or 4 week rotation. Even if they restrict
themselves to their home (unlikely), they can still theoretically pass
any infection along to their family members who are not isolating.
Lots of holes here.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Sanford:
Of course, they are the same holes that have been there all along,
with the increase in cases elsewhere it is only natural that more is
being brought home for supper. They attempted to plug these holes by
making us all wear masks, which of course, was never going to fix
anything.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Sanford: I plan to do lots of overtime to avoid flying
to NB. If the out of province workers not flying to NB which are the
ones helping keep airports and flights going in NB then I can see
flights getting canceled.
Toby Tolly
jacques got the last question in on this video conference
totally unrelated but stirring the language issue
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Welcome back to the circus
Lou Bell
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Jacques took the election loss really hard !
Like most Liberals , they've never recovered . They're still wired in
the " what about me " mode !
Joseph Carrier
Balmoral is 40 km from Campbellton BTW...
Dave Shimla
Reply to @Joseph Carrier: 24 kms according to googly earth
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Survey says?
Dave Shimla
Reply to @David Amos: 27 if you take the long way lol
Ian Scott
Tough place to be. Dr. Russel handles things well. Her French
capabilities are also extraordinary. A premier in making.?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Ian Scott: But so much for simultaneous translation ,so half
of conference useless for most given questions.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Not sure she can or would want to deal with all
the game-playing that goes on in politics.
James Edward
Reply to @Ian Scott: I hope not.
Toby Tolly
Reply to @Ian Scott: the simultaneous translation is usually horrible
anyway as they miss the start of every language switch.
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Ian Scott: Her French is quite good really, but I would not
call it extraordinary - she has to grasp for words sometimes.
certainly her effort is extraordinary.
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Toby Tolly: I really wish they'd release complete
transcripts in both languages in a simple plain text format so pains
like me can quickly search through it.
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Who cares?
James Edward
The Joose isn't worth the Squeeze
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: C'est vrai
James Edward
the game is still going? hmmm I don't know anyone who's died or been
hospitalized...I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it's not worth
shutting everything down for.
Renee Garry
Reply to @James Edward: well I'm not starving, neither is my familly.
Famine is a hoax
June Arnott
Reply to @James Edward: you are lucky then You think it’s a conspiracy?
June Arnott
Reply to @Renee Garry: good one, hope he gets it
James Edward
Reply to @Renee Garry: did i say famine? no. We are going thru a
global social and financial reset. It won't end well for most of us.
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: True
Justin Gunther
Reply to @June Arnott: Hope he gets what exactly?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @June Arnott: "good one, hope he gets it"
Nope, he missed it completely.
James Edward
Reply to @June Arnott: good one, hope She gets it
Ian Scott
It would be nice to know if these outbreaks were related to work
travel. And if so how the policy is to be changed to prevent it
happening over and over. Then the rest of us could relax again instead
of wondering if the dude that flew in yesterday from TO is out
wandering about with covid (about to become active) with his kids and
out for Halloween.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Agreed. We need fewer exemptions from the
self-isolation rule and better enforcement of that rule.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
For starts: how about 100% fewer exemptions?
Otherwise, all we have to look forward to is another episode of
Groundhog Day "a la Higgs".
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @Ian Scott:
How many travellers from Quebec?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: Quebec isn't the source of all COVID cases.
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Agreed but i have a relative in NB and he says there are quebec plates
everywhere....me, being in ontario we have spiked in cases.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: It depends on what part of NB you're in.
I'm in southwestern NB and no, we don't have Quebec plates everywhere.
Up north, where people commute back and forth daily over the Quebec/NB
border to do essential work? Yes, there's almost certainly more Quebec
plates. That said, according the grapevine the recent outbreak in the
Moncton health zone (#1) was caused by someone visiting from Ontario
who failed to self-isolate as required. Also, we have two health zones
(#4 and #5) that border Quebec. Zone 4's had very few cases, Zone 5's
had more than any other zone. So it's not as simple as Quebec border =
lots of cases, because that's just not true. Some people would like it
to be that simple, but it's not.
Dave Shimla
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: southeastern NB/Dieppe is full of quebec
plates, and most are not rentals, unless rental companies started
pimping up their cars
Amajor Hall
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: It essentially doesn't matter, there are
NOT a lot of cases anyways no matter travel or otherwise...and they
are decreasing as we speak...15 new cases in the last week, but 65
recoveries in the same period...
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I am fond of Groundhog Days
Dan Lee
Reply to @David Amos:
Somehow it doesnt surprise me............
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the Irving Clan would love to know
that during Groundhog Day Gale in 1976 my number man and I were
betting on which letter of the huge Irving sign across the road from
my bike shop was gonna come down next Most Maritimers in my neck of
the woods would agree that was quite a storm N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
This Groundhog day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know what you implied but thats Yankee
fiction what i said really happened in the Maritimes
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos:I recall that It warmed up to around 65 degrees F
in the afternoon, the sun was melting the snow in the fields, water
was running everywhere,. Then it blew in a rain on a warm south
westerly wind that quickly shifted to a brisk north wind as the rain
switched to snow. The wind continued to blow gusting over 70 mph
through the night, as Atlantic Canada and Northern New England plunged
into a deep freeze of minus 25 and change. By morning everything was
frozen solid and wind damage everywhere. I think it may ahve taken out
the pier at Old Orchard Beach in southern Maine.
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos: I remember it well.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
New Brunswick reports one new case of COVID-19
Potential public exposure at Moncton gym, people asked to self-monitor
CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 1:32 PM AT
46 Comments
David Amos
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Methinks we are all waiting with bated breath for Al Clark and his
buddies little Lou, Tiny Tim Harvey Baby, Johnny "Never Been Good"
Jacobs and of course the all knowing shill Mr Oliver to make an
appearance and begin offering their two bits worth about their hero
Higgy's circus today N'esy Pas Mr Tibbs???
Ben Haroldson
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Reply to @David Amos:(He said something twice but it was gone by the
time I rebooted my computer)
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: cool nicknames. Did you put that together during
a group visit with the rest of your "friends" at the restigouche
hospital?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Cool nicknames?? Yea right
Methinks turnabout is fair play hence you should enjoy a little Deja
Vu from earlier today N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Harvey York
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: it's like a 6 year old unloved boy trapped in an
old man's body
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
Diana Austin
Those loudly protesting against Covid restrictions and touting instead
letting the virus run rampant to achieve herd immunity overall in
societies have often taken their lead from Sweden’s relaxed approach
to Covid and their guiding epidemiologist, Dr Anders Tegnell. Of
course, as others have pointed out, Sweden has had a much higher death
rate than its Scandinavian neighbours, and recent economic reviews
have shown their economy has not fared much better, either. But the
latest comments by Dr Anders Tegnell in a recent interview with Die
Zeit, a German newspaper (also repeated in the London Times), suggest
that even he has been learning on the job, so to speak. He now says
that the pandemic is approaching a “critical juncture” in Sweden after
the number of daily cases rose by 70 per cent in a week. He does still
defend aspects of his early approach, but to the surprise of many, he
is also now recommending some “mini-lockdowns” in specific areas. Even
more surprisingly, Tegnell has now also said that it would be both
futile and immoral for a state to deliberately pursue herd immunity:
“Throughout history there has up to now been no infectious disease
whose transmission was fully halted by herd immunity without a
vaccine.” So it seems that doctors everywhere are still learning how
much is still left to learn about how this new virus operates and how
societies might best respond
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Diana Austin: yawn
Lou Bell
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Very informative Diana ! Of course
for the ignorant naysayers , not mentioning any names , this is the
last thing they wanr to hear . True , informative information by
health professionals debunking all the BS we see spread by the
uninformed who get their information from the false narratives of the
conspiracy theorists off social media !!!!!!!!!
Emery Hyslop-Margison
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Reply to @Lou Bell: hard at it Lou? I guess you’re not dead yet?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant
bs about me perhaps Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor
little Lou real slow my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I should remind the RCMP of this comment
of your pal's from yesterday N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Well well well! Surprise surprise surprise! I
was convinced that your short list of broken record responses were
produced by pressing a function key. Colour me flabbergasted, like a
chinese mill owner finding a shredded panhead at the bottom of the
boat ;-)
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks everybody in CBC knows that Tammy Scott-Wallace the minister
responsible for women's equality should also review the emails she
requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Care workers suffer pay gap of up to $10 an hour, says coalition
New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says workers in women dominated
industry paid less than they should be
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 2:43 PM AT
23 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
"In a statement to CBC News Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister
responsible for women's equality, said she appreciates the work that
has gone into the report and will review it."
Methinks Scott-Wallace should also review the emails she requested of
me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
David Amos
If anyone bothered to follow the crumbs offered within this article a
course Political Science is not required to understand that everything
political is always about the money and that governments always use
our taxpayer funds to court support for one political party or the
other for their benefit not ours. Methinks many ladies would agree
that making things a gender issue is just plain dumb N'esy Pas?
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study
pay inequity and educate workers
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
https://twitter.com/
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bullshit about me
perhaps Higgy et al should explain real slow my status as an American
resident to Lou their evil and very mindless spin doctor N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months
Lauren Bird · CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 7:00 AM AT
18 Comments
David Amos
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Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bs about me perhaps
Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor little Lou real slow
my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks whereas I am a Canadian Citizen born and raised who ran for
public office 7 times thus far and even sued the Queen while Higgy et
al keeps a "Stay" on my right to have Medicare card Alex LeBlanc
should mention my name to somebody ASAP N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: You claimed you were a dual citizen . Did trump
revoke your Obamacare ?
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Everybody knows I am no such thing
Lauren Fisher
@Jack Rodnies-Or how about you leave and make room for them who are
clearly better people.
Jack Rodnies
Reply to @Lauren Fisher: how about no i was born here and have no
doctor or heathcare mysrlf
David Amos
Reply to @Jack Rodnies: At least you have a medicare card
https://twitter.com/
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks there would be very different twist on things today if a few
members of Higgy's Police State had won some seats in up in the
Campbellton area N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 4 new cases, outbreak at special care home in Balmoral
New isolation rules for travelling workers
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 1:15 PM AT
203 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
PHIL INNIS
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The only isolation should be for people who are worried about getting
it. 99% survival rate
BuT WhAt aBoUt YoUr GrAnDpArEnts ?.............they had a good run.
Stay inside or die from fear
Nicholas Rioux
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Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Did you know that 20% of seniors live in
households containing non seniors? And that 25% of households have
someone with a disability? Granted not all disabilities will mean
someone at risk but then none of this includes people with chronic
conditions that ARE at risk but don't count as disabled.
So that's very likely half or more households containing elderly and
other at risk people with those of little risk.
Can you tell us how you would isolate all those folk who are at risk
but sharing the same homes as the others?
David Amos
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Reply to @PHIL INNIS: I would leave it up for the old folks such I to
decide whether they wish to live in fear or not
PHIL INNIS
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Reply to @Nicholas Rioux: I wouldn't isolate them at all and have a
family discussion about the pitfalls of life. Instead of THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE being out of work and having children starve, we use logic and
let nature run its course. Its crass I know but its more than fair.
PHIL INNIS
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Reply to @David Amos: exactly
Les Cooper
So is this proof that masks are not working?
I dont know why province doesnt set up Covid testing at the airports .
Would save a lot of covid issues. Make it mandatory to leave airport
when arriving
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Methinks a virus doesn't follow Higgy's orders
the passenger may leave as ordered however the pesky little thing may
stay if it wishes N'esy Pas?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Les Cooper: they aren’t sick when they are flying in. Just
have the virus in the easy bake oven. That is why the spread is
happening. It gets shedding days later, and then they say, oh, I guess
I brought the virus back with me from my travels.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: That's why we need multiple tests - along with
isolation - so that cases can be identified asap so contact tracing
can jump ahead and we can ensure the virus is contained.
People are traveling among the Atlantic Bubble on planes with people
who are going to quarantine once they land. This is a big risk. If you
fly, it should be mandatory for testing to occur multiple times to
catch cases asap. Maybe this would be a good use for the rapid
testing, for those who are traveling.
Testing should not release you from work-isolating or from quarantine
too early - because that isn't the most important thing - it should be
used to identify cases sooner so contact tracing can happen in a
timely manner to get ahead of the virus to break the chains. The
sooner this can happen, the smaller the cluster, the less likely it
will spread via community transmission. If you can link all cases to
travel, we all are better off. Once you can't track the source of
infection, it does not bode well and you cannot predict where the
virus is heading and you're left fighting blind, with the only option
to assume the entire community has it - because they could - and we
all have to be still. It's better to be proactive, than reactive.
If you have multiple tests within x amount of days, it could be shown
that most cases are identifiable within 10 days, rather than the full
14 days it could take for symptoms to show. It's hard to say. This
article is really good and explains how doing anything for these
exemptions would be infinitely better than what we were doing. There's
still risk there, but it's much, much better than what we were doing,
which was simply not enough.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Les Cooper
Reply to @Bill Henry: so we get tested right away anyway
Brian Robertson
Campbelltown, Campbelltown. Why is it always around Campbelltown?
Oh yes.
That's where they opened the bubble to a part of Quebec; an area over
which we had NO control.
Who thought that was a good idea?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Brian Robertson: It's always around Campbellton because
that''s the zone that's had the most cases and the most death -
despite not having anywhere near as many residents as some other
zones. Now as to why that would be, that's still an open question. The
bubble with Avignon is certainly one of the possibilities. But the
bubble also included Zone 4 (Edmundston) and Temiscouata. So why
didn't the bubble cause a similar rise in cases in Zone 4?
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Why zone 5 and not zone 4? The best theory
is because Campbellton sits 40 minutes away from Carleton QC. Carleton
is the Gateway to the Gaspe and is a favorite vacation spot for Quebec
City, Montreal and the Eastern Townships. With travel restrictions
this summer and fall, Carleton was overflowing with Quebec Tourists.
Carleton is also frequented by NB residents and was open for day
passes all summer. When this is all over you should really visit the
area. Great beaches with friendly bilingual service.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Brian Robertson: C-a-m-p-b-e-l-l-T-O-N.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Luke Caissy: It's also an area where government rules and
regulations are given lip service, at best, by many residents.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Luke Caissy: That makes more sense than any other theory
I've heard to date. Any skiing tourism, or can we expect a drop in
tourists come the winter?
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Luke Caissy: if one likes rocky beaches vs the nice sand
beaches of southern NB or PE. But there is 'nude' bathing at Carleton
not far from Bleu Heron restaurant.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bob Smith: Is that true of the Campbellton area more so than
the Edmundston area?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Well, that would certainly be a draw for some!
David Amos
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Cry me a river The folks up in Campbellton
have done nothing wrong at all. Methinks there would be very different
twist on things today if a few members of Higgy's Police State had won
some seats in the region recently N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Campbellton area. Terms like "squatters",
"bootleggers" and other terms are still heard in areas like
Robinsonville and such.
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Snowmobiling is huge on the Gaspe, but the
main draw for Carleton is the water.
SarahRose Werner
"they will be able to access: necessities of life and supporting
services, health care, goods and services required for work, banking
and financial services, transportation, child care, animal care, and
funeral or visitation services for members of their immediate family."
- Maybe if the government had listed what people *can't* access during
modified self-isolation, it might be a shorter list?
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: it’s a global pandemic. New Brunswick has
done remarkably well. Hang in there girl a few more months.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Agreed that NB has done remarkably
well. Let's keep doing well! :-) I think it's going to be more than a
*few* more months, however. I'd love to be wrong.
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: You will be wrong - we’re at peak and
numbers will start to decline as the death rate has already done so.
You’re okay Sarah!
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: We might be at the peak of the second
wave. But until we have vaccines and/or treatments that are safe,
effective and widely available, there's nothing to stop us from having
successive waves. Pragmatism has always stood me in good stead. :-)
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yea Right
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Who would ever take a vaccine for a virus
which is clearly not that contagious, less than 0.6% across Canada
have tested positive, nor deadly; = 3.5% of all deaths in 2019. For
this, we destroy peoples lives for generations to come.
Donald Gallant
Perhaps not a good idea to hire across zones might be a thought.
Les Cooper
Reply to @Donald Gallant: there are doctors at the Fredericton
Hospital that commute back and forth from Montreal etc. Will they be
quarantined??
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Good question
Fred Dee
Reply to @Les Cooper: who??
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Dee: several. No names.
They are bilingual and get paid ton to rent in Freddy. 3 in my neighborhood.
Bill Henry
What does it mean when you have a blue circle by your post.
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Bill Henry: bill gates is going to give you covid
David Amos
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Oh My My
Dave Cudmore
Reply to @Bill Henry:
You're in danger of becoming a conservative.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dave Cudmore: ROTFL
Roy Kirk
Do the new rules apply to people travelling on charter/private
aircraft. If so, how are they keeping track?
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk Go figure
Bill Henry
Geez Lou, you’re posts were the only sensible ones on here. Now you
sunk down to the rest of us
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks folks must make allowances for
conservative spin doctors not playing with a full deck However they
really should mind their mouth and quit putting their foot in it after
stepping in their own BS or they may wind up awful ill and not from a
pesky virus N'esy Pas?
Marie Buckley
Time to get our " Guy Lafleurs " up North under control.o
David Amos
Reply to @Marie Buckley: ???
Bill Henry
Will be like the us. People will start taking government to court to
prove they cannot restrict Canadians to their houses.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Yup
Bob Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: A bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Bob Smith: I think Higgs is reaching outside his powers. May
take a judge to tell him
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bill Henry: Every province across the country is restricting
people to their houses under specific circumstances and has been doing
so since March. It's not just Higgs.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Bill Henry: Who is going to take the time to do this? Be
dragged through the mud, chastized for challenging the government? I'd
have to stay in NB for longer than I care at this time, so it's not
me. I'd rather go home, get stuff sorted out and then leave a few days
later. forced confinement for just a few days every 4 months or so.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: So that makes it ok then, sure.
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Bill Henry
Terry Tibbs or Amos, do these changes help your cause?
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: What cause?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
What changes?
Nothing specific has been said and we both know what a politician's
promise is worth?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: ok, I’m reading the same. Nothing has changed.
What is a modified self isolation.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
Exactly what is supposed to exist, but doesn't. It's a shell and pea game.
Randy McNally
Reply to @Bill Henry: I'm still trying to figure out what a modified bubble is
Bill Henry
So no change then. What a joke.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Figured it out have ya?
Nick Papagorgio
It's absurd to have stricter isolation rules for people traveling
outside the bubble for work. Does the government not care about the
economy and mental health? These restrictions should only come into
effect when the hospitals are at capacity. People are losing their
jobs and businesses because of the restrictions put forth by the
government. A perfect example is WestJet cancelling all routes in and
out of NB - the bubble is to blame. That's only some of the jobs that
were lost, I can't imagine how many more there are.
Bill Henry
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: there is absolutely no change
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose
N'esy Pas?
Les Cooper
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Air Canada will be next. Then essential
workers will be unemployed and collecting EI cheques from NB. Lol
Mary Smith
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: NS and PEI have similar policies in place
for weeks or months now. The idea is that the exemptions to the
quarantines are the weak links. If the virus is not here in the
Atlantic Bubble then that means that not all people coming in will
bring it in, but that it MUST be brought in from outside the Atlantic
Bubble.
It is better to be proactive in a pandemic than reactive. It is better
for work, the economy, hospitals, mental health, etc if we focus on
the weak links ..
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: "...come into affect when hospitals are at
capacity..." A large reason for the the plan is to keep the system by
waiting until at capacity when it would be hell.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: So Nick, where do you travel for work?
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Nope, they do not care about people, and
they do not understand the science either. But, the majority of the
voters wanted this, so there you are. I wonder how many of these
workers voted for Higgs?
Stephan Sommers
The two of them are going to restrict NB into poverty. But hey it’s in
the name of health right.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
How so?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Oh, just let in the diseased is the best
policy ? Let's take a vote on who's got / made the best decisions ,
you , or the 2 you refer to ! You lose 100 times outta 100
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Where is westjet or via rail or tourism at
these days? What else is NB’ers willing to give up in the name of
health. By the time this is over the east coast will be in a real bad
spot. I hope I’m wrong because I love living here.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You don't know?
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: we could just test people two day prior and again
when they have been here for 24 h then all is well. Look at Bermuda,
they do that with all foreign workers and tourist. Nice try.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Better than letting the positive tested in
. But you can get out if you'd prefer , nothings holding you from
leaving, other than if other places let you in . But go ahead , we
sure won't hold you back !
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
Westjet and Via are just pandering for government money.
Tourism is, for the most part, poorly paid, benefit free, seasonal
work, no great loss. Hopefully those folks find real jobs and the
operators go under.
Clearly you didn't get the memo? Immigrants are going to save us.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: So you got nothing right on.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: I think my NB employees would prefer I keep
business here. That being said I also have a rental in ON and FL.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: VIA Rail hasn't served anywhere east of
Quebec City are from beginning & won't for immediate future. For that
VIA I don't know why they put on service from C'ton to Halifax since
the bubble began.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: It's not even in the name of health now.
Jake Quinlan
"Because the vast majority of the province's cases originate outside
the Atlantic bubble"
No, in the Atlantic provinces, they all do, ultimately. We (the 4
provinces) "got to zero" multiple times. We never had "embers of
virus" burning all summer long like other provinces. Now (last several
weeks) of course, we can say not all cases originate from outside
bubble - we have community spread in places.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jake Quinlan: If you want to get technical , ALL cases in
the world , except for the country of origin of the 1st cases are
travel related cases ! Does that make you feel better ?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you must feel better now that you got
that off you chest N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to @Lou Bell: Don't feel better (or worse) as I already had
figured out that all cases outside China are "travel related".
Ian Scott
Took a while but finally learned that having contract workers come and
go from hots zones not a good idea. Public has been saying it for 2
weeks. Yes we realize that they are needed , maybe.But not when going
into publics spaces with close contact quarters or LTC's. You could
see it coming. Now 6 dead and positives continue. Wonder about all the
airline folks that came in with Freddy and Moncton dudes.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ian Scott:
When you make your living telling tall tales you tend to discount
everything anyone else says.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh So True
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Telling tales? You're the one that said they
had stopped making references to cases being travel related when all
that happened was having all that mass testing to deal with and the
next day's report they used travel related again.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
It isn't me "playing hard and fast" with the truth in this province.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nor I
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: But you said something that was disproven the
very next day. Face it, you thought "conspiracy" when it was just a
delay.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
There are several active conspiracies around covid 19, you should
start paying attention, they can't even keep their stories straight
from day to day.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Ian Scott: Who brought in the cases and who did they infect
? Most of us don't know , but it appears you know it all ! Please
entice us with all you know , oh great one .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You should know if anyone here would . But we
've come to recognize your frailties
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: There's one big conspiracy , and it's yours
Fred Sanford
It`ll be interesting to see how they make the "modified" isolation
work. NB has a lot of people that work in other provinces and return
home for 1 week on a 3 or 4 week rotation. Even if they restrict
themselves to their home (unlikely), they can still theoretically pass
any infection along to their family members who are not isolating.
Lots of holes here.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Sanford:
Of course, they are the same holes that have been there all along,
with the increase in cases elsewhere it is only natural that more is
being brought home for supper. They attempted to plug these holes by
making us all wear masks, which of course, was never going to fix
anything.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Sanford: I plan to do lots of overtime to avoid flying
to NB. If the out of province workers not flying to NB which are the
ones helping keep airports and flights going in NB then I can see
flights getting canceled.
Toby Tolly
jacques got the last question in on this video conference
totally unrelated but stirring the language issue
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Welcome back to the circus
Lou Bell
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Jacques took the election loss really hard !
Like most Liberals , they've never recovered . They're still wired in
the " what about me " mode !
Joseph Carrier
Balmoral is 40 km from Campbellton BTW...
Dave Shimla
Reply to @Joseph Carrier: 24 kms according to googly earth
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Survey says?
Dave Shimla
Reply to @David Amos: 27 if you take the long way lol
Ian Scott
Tough place to be. Dr. Russel handles things well. Her French
capabilities are also extraordinary. A premier in making.?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Ian Scott: But so much for simultaneous translation ,so half
of conference useless for most given questions.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Not sure she can or would want to deal with all
the game-playing that goes on in politics.
James Edward
Reply to @Ian Scott: I hope not.
Toby Tolly
Reply to @Ian Scott: the simultaneous translation is usually horrible
anyway as they miss the start of every language switch.
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Ian Scott: Her French is quite good really, but I would not
call it extraordinary - she has to grasp for words sometimes.
certainly her effort is extraordinary.
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Toby Tolly: I really wish they'd release complete
transcripts in both languages in a simple plain text format so pains
like me can quickly search through it.
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Who cares?
James Edward
The Joose isn't worth the Squeeze
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: C'est vrai
James Edward
the game is still going? hmmm I don't know anyone who's died or been
hospitalized...I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it's not worth
shutting everything down for.
Renee Garry
Reply to @James Edward: well I'm not starving, neither is my familly.
Famine is a hoax
June Arnott
Reply to @James Edward: you are lucky then You think it’s a conspiracy?
June Arnott
Reply to @Renee Garry: good one, hope he gets it
James Edward
Reply to @Renee Garry: did i say famine? no. We are going thru a
global social and financial reset. It won't end well for most of us.
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: True
Justin Gunther
Reply to @June Arnott: Hope he gets what exactly?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @June Arnott: "good one, hope he gets it"
Nope, he missed it completely.
James Edward
Reply to @June Arnott: good one, hope She gets it
Ian Scott
It would be nice to know if these outbreaks were related to work
travel. And if so how the policy is to be changed to prevent it
happening over and over. Then the rest of us could relax again instead
of wondering if the dude that flew in yesterday from TO is out
wandering about with covid (about to become active) with his kids and
out for Halloween.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Agreed. We need fewer exemptions from the
self-isolation rule and better enforcement of that rule.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
For starts: how about 100% fewer exemptions?
Otherwise, all we have to look forward to is another episode of
Groundhog Day "a la Higgs".
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @Ian Scott:
How many travellers from Quebec?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: Quebec isn't the source of all COVID cases.
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Agreed but i have a relative in NB and he says there are quebec plates
everywhere....me, being in ontario we have spiked in cases.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: It depends on what part of NB you're in.
I'm in southwestern NB and no, we don't have Quebec plates everywhere.
Up north, where people commute back and forth daily over the Quebec/NB
border to do essential work? Yes, there's almost certainly more Quebec
plates. That said, according the grapevine the recent outbreak in the
Moncton health zone (#1) was caused by someone visiting from Ontario
who failed to self-isolate as required. Also, we have two health zones
(#4 and #5) that border Quebec. Zone 4's had very few cases, Zone 5's
had more than any other zone. So it's not as simple as Quebec border =
lots of cases, because that's just not true. Some people would like it
to be that simple, but it's not.
Dave Shimla
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: southeastern NB/Dieppe is full of quebec
plates, and most are not rentals, unless rental companies started
pimping up their cars
Amajor Hall
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: It essentially doesn't matter, there are
NOT a lot of cases anyways no matter travel or otherwise...and they
are decreasing as we speak...15 new cases in the last week, but 65
recoveries in the same period...
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I am fond of Groundhog Days
Dan Lee
Reply to @David Amos:
Somehow it doesnt surprise me............
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the Irving Clan would love to know
that during Groundhog Day Gale in 1976 my number man and I were
betting on which letter of the huge Irving sign across the road from
my bike shop was gonna come down next Most Maritimers in my neck of
the woods would agree that was quite a storm N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
This Groundhog day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know what you implied but thats Yankee
fiction what i said really happened in the Maritimes
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos:I recall that It warmed up to around 65 degrees F
in the afternoon, the sun was melting the snow in the fields, water
was running everywhere,. Then it blew in a rain on a warm south
westerly wind that quickly shifted to a brisk north wind as the rain
switched to snow. The wind continued to blow gusting over 70 mph
through the night, as Atlantic Canada and Northern New England plunged
into a deep freeze of minus 25 and change. By morning everything was
frozen solid and wind damage everywhere. I think it may ahve taken out
the pier at Old Orchard Beach in southern Maine.
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos: I remember it well.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
New Brunswick reports one new case of COVID-19
Potential public exposure at Moncton gym, people asked to self-monitor
CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 1:32 PM AT
46 Comments
David Amos
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Methinks we are all waiting with bated breath for Al Clark and his
buddies little Lou, Tiny Tim Harvey Baby, Johnny "Never Been Good"
Jacobs and of course the all knowing shill Mr Oliver to make an
appearance and begin offering their two bits worth about their hero
Higgy's circus today N'esy Pas Mr Tibbs???
Ben Haroldson
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Reply to @David Amos:(He said something twice but it was gone by the
time I rebooted my computer)
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: cool nicknames. Did you put that together during
a group visit with the rest of your "friends" at the restigouche
hospital?
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Cool nicknames?? Yea right
Methinks turnabout is fair play hence you should enjoy a little Deja
Vu from earlier today N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Harvey York
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: it's like a 6 year old unloved boy trapped in an
old man's body
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
Diana Austin
Those loudly protesting against Covid restrictions and touting instead
letting the virus run rampant to achieve herd immunity overall in
societies have often taken their lead from Sweden’s relaxed approach
to Covid and their guiding epidemiologist, Dr Anders Tegnell. Of
course, as others have pointed out, Sweden has had a much higher death
rate than its Scandinavian neighbours, and recent economic reviews
have shown their economy has not fared much better, either. But the
latest comments by Dr Anders Tegnell in a recent interview with Die
Zeit, a German newspaper (also repeated in the London Times), suggest
that even he has been learning on the job, so to speak. He now says
that the pandemic is approaching a “critical juncture” in Sweden after
the number of daily cases rose by 70 per cent in a week. He does still
defend aspects of his early approach, but to the surprise of many, he
is also now recommending some “mini-lockdowns” in specific areas. Even
more surprisingly, Tegnell has now also said that it would be both
futile and immoral for a state to deliberately pursue herd immunity:
“Throughout history there has up to now been no infectious disease
whose transmission was fully halted by herd immunity without a
vaccine.” So it seems that doctors everywhere are still learning how
much is still left to learn about how this new virus operates and how
societies might best respond
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Diana Austin: yawn
Lou Bell
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Very informative Diana ! Of course
for the ignorant naysayers , not mentioning any names , this is the
last thing they wanr to hear . True , informative information by
health professionals debunking all the BS we see spread by the
uninformed who get their information from the false narratives of the
conspiracy theorists off social media !!!!!!!!!
Emery Hyslop-Margison
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Reply to @Lou Bell: hard at it Lou? I guess you’re not dead yet?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant
bs about me perhaps Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor
little Lou real slow my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I should remind the RCMP of this comment
of your pal's from yesterday N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Well well well! Surprise surprise surprise! I
was convinced that your short list of broken record responses were
produced by pressing a function key. Colour me flabbergasted, like a
chinese mill owner finding a shredded panhead at the bottom of the
boat ;-)
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