Tuesday, 6 October 2020

Fredericton to take closer look at Black Lives Matter report on police

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Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks everybody knows that I raised a lot of Hell when Leanne Fitch and my political foe Landslide Annie McLellan were preparing to secretly cover up the RCMP blatant incompetence in Portapique N'esy Pas?

 

https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2020/10/fredericton-to-take-closer-look-at.html

 

 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-blm-police-1.5751686 

 

 

 

Replying to   @alllibertynews and 49 others  
Methinks if folks truly cared police protocol etc. they would have checked my work in Federal Court in Fat Fred City years ago N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fredericton-blm-police-1.5751686 


Fredericton to take closer look at Black Lives Matter report on police

Group urges more public oversight of police operations

 

Lauren Bird · CBC News · Posted: Oct 06, 2020 9:47 AM AT

Black Lives Matter Fredericton organizer Husoni Raymond presented report to city council on Monday night. (Logan Perley/CBC)

Black Lives Matter Fredericton is calling for a public hearing into police operations and community safety in the city. 

Husoni Raymond, one of the organizers of Black Lives Matter Fredericton, said police have too many varied responsibilities, and more public input is needed into police operations.

"There is no civilian oversight of police to actually help determine the scope, determine the budget allocations, or to hold police accountable in any way," he told a meeting of council in committee.

Raymond highlighted several problems with the way the Fredericton Police Force operates, including a lack of transparency regarding policy and budgeting, he said.

"When we talk about reallocating police funding and reconsidering the way in which we do community safety, it's about making sure that not just this one group of people have the responsibility, or we're charging them to address all these problems, but more of a community-oriented or community solution to these problems."

Coun. John MacDermid said the recommendation was a good starting point.

Council moved to have staff review the recommendation and report back on the information Raymond presented. 

"That will give both council time to think about what you've presented to us as individuals," said MacDermid. "It will give staff some time to really dig down into some of those jurisdictional issues, whether it's with the relationship between municipality and the province, but also what other municipalities are doing in terms of this."

No one on council or with the police department would speak with reporters after the meeting. Instead, city communications manager Wayne Knorr gave a statement:

"Certainly tonight was about listening," he said. "The city needed to make space for this important discussion. And staff have been, as you heard, instructed to bring back a report with more detail for council's consideration."

No date was set for the staff report to come back to council.

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David Amos
Welcome back to the circus 
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Got something new ? Latest messages old and boring . Just taking up space . 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you should take you own advice N'esy Pas?
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: The " Me party " following along the lines of the SANB Liberals . Insignificant and one issue for each ! Francophones for the Liberals , and Dave for the We's !
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: FYI You forever proved long ago ta that you don't have the first clue Lou

Methinks Justice Bell formerly of he RCMP, his buddy Higgy a former wannabe leader of the CoR Party and my Mother's second husband a former Chief Electoral of NB should at least affirm that I was one of the founding members of the Anglo Society back in the eighties when Trudeau the Elder mandated the my dear Mother in Law who worked for the RCMP in Fat Fred City since 1954 like her Father Staff Sgt Jones before her had to learn French or quit the force N'esy Pas?

 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Lou Bell: no. That and cry me a river are his go to. Simple mind  
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: So a tr o ll says So say all?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
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Methinks its comical that the long running circus operating south of the Medicine Line has landed in Fat Fred City. Its blatantly obvious that the "Peace Officers" employed by Higgy's Police State could stop that malaise N'esy Pas?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
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Methinks the must comical part of the circus is that folks who are paying to watch it don't realize they are being played like a fiddle. The clowns are making out like the bandits they truly are and the equally greedy Keystone Kops are protecting them instead of doing their job and investigating them because the prosecutors are the biggest clowns of all N'esy Pas?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Amos
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Go Figure

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Fred Dee
If there was no crime,,, there would be no need for police! Stop talking about defunding.... and look to deal with crime!! When crime drops, need for police drops.... the problem is,,, crime is not going down!!
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Fred Dee: I agree but

The police authority is not given carte blanche They must act within the law as they enforce just like everyone else The cops are public servants and must be properly overseen to insure that they are accountable to the same laws we are.
FYI That is why the RCMP and I began butting heads in 1982
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Robert Kitchen
Enough with the dividing comments, stop using color to describe anyone or any event .
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Robert Kitchen: I agree

its a a divisive argument promoted fro the benefit of who?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jon Nowlan
If only people took responsibility for their actions or their peoples actions. The problem isn't race, it's parenting and education.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Jon Nowlan: Amen
 
 
 
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ristin Time
I'm fat. Lets create a movement blaming others for my eating habbits
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tristin Time: Methinks many a true word is said in jest N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Simmons
This thing will be a fiasco. You realize even the Blogger will be there with his side show and supporters. I might go just out of morbid curiosity.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Simmons: Welcome to the circus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tristin Time
Readers face the facts. They can't be happy until they hold all positions of power. That's when you'd see they can't do better than the current administration!
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tristin Time: We can always do better
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tim Simmons
Seriously?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Tim Simmons: Too Too Funny Fat Fred City's infamous blogger is now investigating Fredericton Councillor Eric Price
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @Tim Simmons: the moment when a dozen innocent bystanders get killed in the line of fire every single weekend, including young children in BLM neighborhoods shall be the moment I stand behind their movement.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Round Two

Chief asks Fredericton councillor to resign for using offensive language
St. Mary's Chief Alan Polchies scolds whole Fredericton council for remaining silent
Lauren Bird · CBC News · Posted: Oct 06, 2020 8:54 PM AT
 
 
Ray Oliver  
Reply to @David Amos: policies is a hypocritical farce. He should be the one typing up a resignation
 
 
Tim Simmons
Reply to @Ray Oliver: That happens in Fredericton?
 
 
Ray Oliver  
Reply to @Tim Simmons: the movement in general. Whether it be Fredericton or Timbuktu. Its a joke
 
 
Ray Oliver  
Reply to @David Amos: Polchies is an embarrassment. He needs to resign
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks its interesting that my evil critic now wants me to agree with him N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Andre Beaulieu
Just a cabal of Marxist black supremacists'
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Andre Beaulieu: Yup
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael durant
Black Lives Matter has major support from mainstream media and outside political forces. The worst thing to do would be to attempt to sideline them, they can't be stopped without the Fredericton establishment being severely crippled, maybe taken out altogether.
 
 
john smith
Reply to @Michael durant: lol
 
 
Tim Simmons
Reply to @Michael durant: So did Greta. Let's hope obscurity finds these folks too.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: I second that emotion 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
rk k
Why is anyone listening to the organization Black Lives Matter anymore? They are a proven Marxist organization that is anti-democracy and anti-family with ties to Antifa which are somewhat questionable..... Many in the black community also are not supportive of this group. Time for politicians to grow a backbone do a gut check and be careful of who they listen to and respond to.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @rk k: Methinks its because the Powers That Be want us to N'esy Pas?
 
 
Michael durant
Reply to @rk k:
BLM has the powerful aid of the mass media. Politicians are taken down by the media. Actually many fear the media.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Michael durant: Yup
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Michael durant: Why else would my first reply to you go "Poof'?
 
 
David Amos  
Reply to @Michael durant: Need I say "Poof"???

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Fredericton Police has a long history of corruption, thugish behavior, and racism.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: Methinks you forgot incompetence I wager some older folks still recall how the first member of Fared City Finest was killed while on duty playing Lets just say he lost bigtime while playiing quck draw McGraw with his superior N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @David Amos: FYI I was too busy laughing while remembering the nonsense mentioned above to type Fat Fred City Finest correctly 
 
 
James Edward
Reply to @David Amos: you could also make an argument that hiring a 38 yr old rookie woman police officer who was shot dead not two years later might have been a poor HR decision by our former chief (Fitch) who vanished within a year....only now to head up the portapique mass killing.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @James Edward: FYI The cop who met his demise along with her was one of corrupt dudes within Fat Fred City Finest involved in their theft of my Harley in 2007. After he was killed I learned that he had grown up in Sussex. He obviously hated me for some reason I will never understand because I never knew the kid. Perhaps somebody who worked me for backed over his bicycle. Hard telling not knowing.
 

David Amos
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Reply to @James Edward: Methinks everybody knows that I raised a lot of Hell when I learned that former Chief Fitch and my old political foe Landslide Annie were preparing to cover up in secrecy the RCMP blatant incompetence when the wacko who grew up Riverview went on his infamous rampage in a fake cop car. In less than a day I made big bad Billy Blair and Premier McNeil change their mind and have an open Inquiry. Trust that nobody was surprised when McNeil announced he was quitting a couple of days later N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: trust that you would have liked my reply about portapique 
 
 
Ray Oliver
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Reply to @David Amos: trust that it wouldve been moronic 
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: I‘ve lived in Fredericton for more than a decade and found the police to be a professional and helpful organization. The police have my unqualified support. BLM not so much. 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: Racism? Are there that many minorities in a large enough cluster in Fredericton to even have a racial agenda??? 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: How dumb are you???
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: I trust that you know where to find them
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Oh My My Methinks you should talk to the Chief you criticize N'esy Pas? 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michy Tag
wah wah wah, cry cry cry, want want want that pretty much sums up everyone and everyuthing on the socialist left.
 
 
Rudy Hicks
Reply to @Michy Tag: So, you prefer Trump-style fascism?
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Michy Tag: I Wholeheartedly Agree
 
 
Chris McNee
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: no, I don’t thing he’s insinuating that at all. Nor is it a fascist comment or parallel.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Chris McNee: I concur 
 
 
James Edward
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: you don't have to be a fasci st to see this is a communist/lefti st organization. Communism has been more destructive than fascism by a lot.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: Yup 
 
 
Ray Oliver 
Reply to @Rudy Hicks: There is a middle ground. We are only seeing extremes these days 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Michael durant
BLM is confronting Fredericton's entrenched establishment culture.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Michael durant: Methinks many riots south of the 49th easily proves that BLM has a very dubious agenda N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Michael durant: Methinks many riots south of the 49th easily proves that BLM has a very dubious agenda N'esy Pas?
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Michael durant: I touched the nerve again 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lou Bell 
Community policing a few years back appeared to be a good idea. Seeing and getting to know their officers seemed a good idea, and yet it appears to just have disappeared. Not sure if that's so , but it almost appears they'd prefer their officers just drive around in cars . In some areas a more visible presence , be it on foot , bike , or skateboard ( just kidding ) would be nice . In others it just wouldn't be possible , but they can't just throw everything in one bucket , stir it up , and get a " one idea fits all " scenario . Appears the police and fire departments just wanted to spend all their money and resources on the " play toys " of the big cities !
Also the " authoritarian mentality " of the police needs to be addressed. No matter how one wants to address their jobs , their mandate , like most all others, is TO PROVIDE A SERVICE " !!! " To serve and protect " means just that ! Not to bully , denigrate , or manhandle the people they serve , but to provide a service ! There are too many officers who appear to think otherwise ! 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Cry me another river and you will flood Fat Fred City
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: Your insignificant input is noted ! As usual !
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Good because it is already gone after I blogged it
 
 
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: If people will look at the report I filed with ... .... ,,, years ago ................ ! Oh , sorry , that's your usual response !
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks everybody but you knows that it is a lawsuit I filed in Federal Court across from the cop shop in Fat Fred City while running in the election of the 42nd parliament Clearly its way past High Time for your nap N'esy Pas?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thomas Wayne
African Canadians, visible minorities need to become police officers, only way to make real change
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Thomas Wayne: Yea Right
 
 
James Edward
Reply to @Thomas Wayne: So African immigrants? I think some people who are born in Canada might take issue with you using that terminology. 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @Thomas Wayne: Black officers should be patrolling the Black neighborhoods.. they'll get more respect and if a civilian is killed in the line of duty it won't go down the race ism path  
 
 
James Edward
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Ray there are no black neighborhoods in Fredericton. 
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @James Edward: in the states I meant sorry. 
 
 
Tim Simmons
Reply to @Thomas Wayne: And to see what it's like before you question them.  
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Tim Simmons: Methinks within a purportedly profound "Just Democracy" folks have the right to question authority every day all day long N'esy Pas? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
"police have too many varied responsibilities" - Possibly true. For example, I'm not sure that police are the best people to be doing wellness checks. This certainly bears further investigation. One area I see as particularly thorny are responses to reports of trespassing. A property owner or resident certainly has a right to call the police to remove a trespassing individual and to expect prompt action. However what the public sees is the police dealing forcefully with an individual who may be drunk, high and/or mentally ill. Is the property owner/resident supposed to have to wait until a social worker is available to assist the police? I don't know what the answer is on this one.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: I do
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Part of the problem is that that person who is removed today doesn't want or won't allow others to help , and tomorrow , or the next day , or the next , will be right back causing the same issues , again , and again , and again . And they'll be listed as one of the poor , neglected homeless that no one cares about . And it's an issue no one seems to want to acknowledge . 
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: so someone prowling around your property high on meth or fentanyl should be visited by a social worker? That’s a dreamworld. Given the number of violent home invasions and break-ins that are drug related please let the police do their job. In fantasyland everyone is redeemable - in reality, I’m afraid not. 
 
 
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: I'm saying exactly the opposite. If there's someone hanging out in front of my door acting crazy, I'm going to call the cops and I expect them to arrive promptly and remove this person so that I can come and go safely. *However* if someone's walking by and they don't know I called the cops, what they see if the cops dealing forcefully with a person who might be better off dealt with by a social worker. As the person who called the cops, I sure don't want to wait for a SW! The cops get caught in the middle between my expectations and the perceptions of passers-by.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yea Right 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Edward
This globalist organisation has no clout here. Begone.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: I concur
 
 
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @James Edward: You can buy a t-shirt online for $19.99 US.
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: When you buy them a T shirt say hey to your buddies in the Fat Fred City Finest for me will ya ?
 
 
Ray Oliver
Reply to @David Amos: say hey to the nurses in Restigouche Hospital for me? 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Oliver: Why say such a nasty thing? Have you spent a lot time there? 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
john smith
nb did not vote ndp for a reason we dont need communistic ideals in this province
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @john smith: Oh So True
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kevin Cormier 
"civilian oversight of police".... its called elected officials. If people want to work on budget allocations, policy, etc. then put your name on a ballot.

"it's about making sure that not just this one group of people have the responsibility"... again, that group is our elected officials. The Utopian dream of government by committee (or by social media influencers) is such a joke.

Seems more and more people are experts on police protocol, budgets, etc.
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Kevin Cormier: Methinks if folks truly cared police protocol etc. they would have checked my work in Federal Court in Fat Fred City years ago N'esy Pas?
 
 
Kevin Cormier 
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Reply to @David Amos: People lack of interest in your past "work" should be mistaken for overall public interest in other matters.
 
 
Lou Bell
Reply to @David Amos: They gave up on all those vacant ramblings years ago .
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Kevin Cormier: Methinks that is the reason why you people get the governments you deserve N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks Higgy et al have no doubt checked out my tweet by now Perhaps they will confer their infamous blogger buddy who hangs around the old maison and explain what he said to after you have your nap N'esy Pas? 
 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: So you say    

 

 


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