N.B. drops appeal of $2M payout to fired Horizon CEO Dr. John Dornan
Province and Dornan have reached a 'mutually satisfactory resolution,' says Health Minister Bruce Fitch
The Higgs government has dropped its appeal of a record-breaking $2-million payout to the fired head of Horizon Health Network, Dr. John Dornan.
In a statement Monday, Health Minister Bruce Fitch announced the province and Dornan have "reached a mutually satisfactory resolution with respect to the termination of Dr. Dornan's employment as CEO of Horizon."
"As such, the Province of New Brunswick has withdrawn its appeal," which was scheduled to be heard on Friday in Fredericton, he said.
No other information has been provided.
Premier Blaine Higgs publicly announced Dornan's firing during a news conference July 15, 2022, following the death of a patient in the waiting room of the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital's emergency department in Fredericton.
It was part of a larger shakeup of New Brunswick's health-care leadership that saw Dorothy Shephard replaced as health minister and the boards of both Horizon and Vitalité removed.
Dornan, who announced last week he will seek the Liberal nomination for the riding of Portland-Simonds, in Saint John's north end, declined an interview, but did email a statement.
"Other than to say that I'm glad an agreement has been reached, I have no further comments at this time," he said.
Judge previously upheld decision
Dornan had served as president and CEO of Horizon for only four months of his five-year contract when he was fired.
He filed for unjust dismissal under the Public Service Labour Relations Act and in February 2023, adjudicator George Filliter awarded him special damages of about $1.8 million, representing the value of lost salary, pension contributions and health benefits, plus $200,000 in aggravated damages for "breach of the employer's implied obligation to act in good faith when dismissing him."
It was the largest employment compensation award in the province's history, according to Dornan's lawyers.
The province requested a judicial review, seeking to have the award quashed, but Court of King's Bench Justice Kathryn Gregory upheld the labour arbitrator's decision last December.
The province subsequently appealed, arguing Gregory "erred in fact and law."
56 Comments
David Amos
Methinks Higgy and Outhouse should agree to have the writ dropped ASAP N'esy Pas?
David Amos
I wonder if Dornan and his cohorts remember me
Phil Collins
Reply to David Amos
If they have been anywhere near these boards, you would definitely be difficult to forget, n’est ce pas?
David Amos
Reply to Phil Collins
C'est Vrai However I was referring to my phone calls and emails etc
Allan Marven
Dr. Jean-Robert Ngola, good luck to you too. Holland was away every weekend to NS at the same time higs nailed this Good Doctor.
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven
Thats interesting
David Amos
Reply to Allan Marven My grand daughter and her parents crossed the
border anytime they wished because Higgy's "Peace Officers" had to abide
with a court order
Freddy Furlong
Yup higgy and crew erred in fact and law. You get what you vote for folks. And liberals are no better. Time for real change.
David Amos
Reply to Freddy Furlong
We get the governments we deserve
Ron parker
I still fail to see how this firing changed anything.
Reply to Ron parker
We lost a good doctor.
David Amos
Reply to Ron parker
It didn't
Wilson Rose
Scapegoat jobs have to be lucrative or nobody will take them.
Benoit Boudreau
Reply to Wilson Rose
what?
David Amos
Reply to Wilson Rose True
Murray Brown
A drop in the bucket... Higgs cancelation of
the Centennial building's refurbishment into a Justice Building has cost
taxpayers about $100 million dollars. And his wasted expenditures on
Covid measures and laws probably totals in the hundreds of millions.
And that's not even accounting for the tens of millions and maybe even
hundreds of millions blown away by NB Power and the money losing pot
shops he's built around the province. Tax funds that will never be
recovered from his former employers because they haven't paid any taxes
since the 1960s. The middle class and working poor are the ones who pay
and pay and pay the price of Higgs mismanagement.
David Amos
Reply to Murray BrownAmend
JOhn D Bond
Another bone headed move by our premier results in unnecessary costs to the taxpayers.
Time to show Mr Higgs the door.
October won't come soon enough.
MICHAEL O'DELL
Reply to JOhn D Bond
True
Marc Bourque
Reply to JOhn D Bond
and then what? Vote in a liberal? Iam not a big fan of Higgs but I'd rather deal with a devil that I know, then an unknown LOL
Robert Buck
Reply to JOhn D Bond
You mean firing the Doctor in the first place right? Or costing taxpayers money by appealing the result.
David Amos
Reply to JOhn D Bond How about Apple Blossom Time???
MR Cain
Reply to Marc Bourque
C'mon Marc, give us a break from this insanity.
Surely the Liberals won't do anything crazy for at least 2 years; it
will take that long to figure out where all the money went. Al Clark
Reply to Marc Bourque
LOL will vote for a genius like higgy, because
he's "not a liberal" . The reason this province is where it is;
intelligent, well reasoned voting choices ;-) JOhn D Bond
Reply to Marc Bourque
I would have agreed with you but the relatively recent alignment with certain high profile religious types has changed my mind.
JOhn D Bond
Reply to Robert Buck
Both
David Amos
Reply to Al Clark
You got the government you deserve
Margaret Flowers
Seems to me the the province “erred in fact and law”, not Gregory.
David Amos
Reply to Margaret Flowers
Seems so
Kyle Woodman
Another failure by the Higgs government.
.
MICHAEL O'DELL
Reply to Kyle WoodmanAbsolutely
Benoit Boudreau
Reply to Kyle Woodmanso many failures...
David Amos
Reply to Kyle WoodmanPar for the course
Al Clark
Reply to Kyle Woodman Tough to keep track eh?
Sylvain Carriere
No question John's sterling qualifications make him an outstanding LPC candidate.
Bonne chance' John.
David Amos
Reply to Sylvain Carriere
Yea Right Raymond Leger
Wonder how much extra this is going to cost the taxpayers of New Brunswick
Louis Leblanc
Reply to Raymond Leger
Less than it would if agreement not done
David Amos
Reply to Raymond Leger
They will never tell us
Province, RCMP deny doctor's allegations of racism, 'political scapegoating'
Dr. Jean-Robert Ngola is suing N.B. and RCMP after he was accused of breaching COVID-19 rules in 2020
The New Brunswick government and the RCMP are denying allegations of discrimination, "political scapegoating" and withholding evidence levelled by a former Campbellton doctor.
Dr. Jean-Robert Ngola, 52, filed the lawsuit against the RCMP, the provincial government, as well as Facebook, in January 2022.
In it, he says he faced racism and threats after he was accused in 2020 of breaking COVID-19 rules by failing to isolate and of being the source of a deadly outbreak.
After many months of motions and court appearances, the province and RCMP filed their statements of defence earlier this year.
In its filing, the federal attorney general, speaking on behalf of the RCMP, explicitly denied that the RCMP was biased against Ngola, that it withheld evidence, that it was serving the political interests of the province or that it breached Ngola's Charter rights.
The province denied all allegations of breaching Ngola's Charter rights or "scapegoating" him to get ahead in the election held that fall.
Premier did not know Ngola's name, filing says
In May, Ngola was labelled by some as "patient zero" after he tested positive for COVID-19. In early May 2020 he drove across the border to Quebec and did not isolate upon his return. He later claimed the province's rules were unclear.
During a May 27 news conference on the province's response to the pandemic, Premier Blaine Higgs said a medical professional had travelled to Quebec for personal reasons.
Higgs never referred to Ngola by name but blamed what was then a cluster of COVID-19 cases in the Campbellton region and a resurgence of the coronavirus in the province on the "irresponsible individual" who returned to work at the Campbellton Regional Hospital for two weeks.
The outbreak claimed two lives, infected dozens and forced that part of New Brunswick back into a more restrictive phase of recovery.
In
2022, New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters a court hearing
may be the only way to put 'an appropriate end' to the discussion about
the case of Dr. Jean-Robert Ngola, who left the city of Campbellton and
now practises in Quebec. (Ed Hunter/CBC)
Ngola's lawyers argue that Higgs, acting as an agent of the province, "knew or ought to have known" that the public could identify Ngola based on those details and Ngola's identity which "had already been illegally leaked to the public via Facebook/social media prior to the press conference."
Ngola's lawyers also allege that the province's actions "were calculated for political advancement" by the premier.
"By pinning the increase in COVID-19 cases on Dr. Ngola, the Defendants RCMP and [the province] shifted the blame for their management of COVID-19 to him," the suit says.
In the statement of defence, the province says Higgs did not know Ngola's name, gender, age, race or occupation when he spoke at that news conference.
The province denied all of Ngola's allegations of scapegoating and discrimination.
It also says any breach of confidentiality was done by an "unknown third party" who posted Ngola's name on Facebook. And it says Ngola disclosed his own health information on June 2, 2020, in a media interview.
RCMP says it did not contribute to racism
After conducting an investigation into Ngola's movements that spring, the RCMP recommended a charge be laid against him under the Emergency Measures Act. The Crown first went ahead with the charge, but withdrew it in 2021.
In his suit, Ngola's lawyers say he "was facing severe racism and serious threats to his life," and the RCMP's actions "bolstered" racist conduct against him" and "re-attended at his home several times in response to public complaints that he was failing to quarantine."
In the statement of defence, the Attorney General of Canada says any "harassment or racist treatment" experienced by Ngola was "unacceptable and deeply offensive," but the office denied allegations that RCMP contributed racial profiling, hate crimes or harassment.
The RCMP admit that Ngola called with concerns for his safety, the filing says.
"The RCMP took reasonable steps to respond to the Plaintiff's concerns, which included doing extra patrols around his house and encouraging him to contact them should he believe his safety or that of his daughter, were at risk."
Both the province and attorney general ask that the case be entirely dismissed with costs.
Ngola now practises in Quebec.
No date has been set to hear this case.
With files from Bobbi-Jean MacKinnon
Higgy Have your buddy Margaret Melanson tell us another one will ya?
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"Horizon has a thorough quality review process in place which ensures
concerns expressed by a patient about the care they receive in our
facilities are followed up on."
Need I say that one was PURE D BS???
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Tuesday, 2 August 2022
After more hospital complaints, Higgs gets involved in health-care
system — again
Round 4
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canad
Fredericton ER death compounds grief for mother who lost baby
Aimee Dunn says Chalmers Hospital promised more compassionate care
Rachel Cave · CBC News · Posted: Aug 05, 2022 6:00 AM AT
Aimee Dunn and her partner, Mitchell Waite, four days before Dunn was
admitted to the emergency department of a Fredericton hospital, where
she lost her baby. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
When Aimee Dunn heard that a patient died alone in the waiting room of
a Fredericton emergency department less than four months after she
lost her infant in the same ER, she felt grief and rage all over
again.
"My baby looked perfect," said Dunn, who had to be delivered of a
stillborn girl by C-section on March 23 at the Dr. Everett Chalmers
Regional Hospital.
"They promised to do better. Now someone else is dead."
At the heart of Dunn's pain is why it took 12 hours for anyone to
check on the health of her baby.
WATCH | Fredericton couple still in grief after losing child in ER
Woman who lost baby in Fredericton ER says hospital promised to do better
4 hours ago
Duration 4:54
Aimee Dunn says hospital vowed to make changes, but then she heard a
man died in the ER waiting room
Dunn, who was 35 weeks pregnant, says her medical history should have
prompted her pregnancy to be a top concern.
At 30, Dunn had already had one miscarriage and an ectopic pregnancy.
A diabetic from childhood, she came into the hospital wearing her insulin pump.
A plaster cast of Reia Dunn’s feet and
hands, given to Dunn and Waite by staff at the Dr. Everett Chalmers
Regional Hospital. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
And her records showed she'd had lupus, an autoimmune disease that can
raise the risk of pregnancy complications.
She said she'd been in the care of Dr. Erica Holloway, a maternal
fetal specialist.
Dunn believed the maternity ward would take good care of her.
She knew its corners and its crannies, working there nights in housekeeping.
Her tasks include taking out the garbage, disinfecting equipment and
cleaning up after women give birth in the labour and delivery unit.
"It can take up to an hour," Dunn said. "But none of this bothers me.
I'm happy to do it. "
Something went wrong
On March 22, when Dunn was still excited that her day was coming —
that soon she'd be a mother herself in labour and delivery, holding
the baby girl she'd already decided to name Reia — she started feeling
pain.
She began vomiting and heaving uncontrollably.
Her partner, Mitchell Waite, said he called labour and delivery and
was told to bring Dunn in.
But when they got to the unit, they were turned away and instructed to
go to the emergency department instead.
Dunn was admitted immediately at 5:43 p.m., according to the autopsy report.
Already, she symptoms of preeclampsia, a known risk factor in maternal
death and fetal death.
But Dr. Stephen Cashman in the ER seemed preoccupied with her cannabis
use, Dunn said.
She had been diagnosed early in her pregnancy with hyperemesis, or
severe nausea and vomiting. A cannabis user since age 15, she decided
to keep using it during her pregnancy against the advice of her
physicians. She said it helped reduce the nausea, but more important,
it gave her an appetite.
Dunn says she’s getting by with support from her friends and family.
From left are Aimee’s grandmother Albina Stuckless, Aimee, best friend
Anita Mihailescu and Aimee’s mother Joanne Dunn. (Rachel Cave/CBC)
In the ER, both Dunn and Waite felt dismissed by nursing staff and Cashman.
"He really didn't want to do anything else with us," Waite said. "He
won't even talk to me, and I don't even smoke weed.
"Both him and the nurse were treating us just like poor people who
were potheads."
Dunn's medical records indicate Cashman was planning to discharge
Dunn, but she was reluctant to go and insisted on staying overnight.
She doesn't remember Waite leaving the hospital around 10 o'clock that night.
"I thought everything was handled at this point," Waite said. "She's
in good hands. She's in a good place. She's going to get the care she
needs.
"That wasn't the case at all."
No fetal heartbeat
According to an emergency room report written by Dr. Anthony
Sarkisian, Cashman managed Dunn's care until she was handed over to
Dr. Yogi Seghal, who then handed her over to Sarkisian at 1 a.m.
At that time, Dunn was described as stable with normal blood pressure.
According to Sarkisian's report, Seghal had reported Dunn was
assessed by labour and delivery, which felt her symptoms were not
related to her pregnancy so directed her to the ER.
Dunn insists she wasn't seen in labour and delivery.
Just before 6 a m., Sarkisian wrote, it was brought to his attention
for the first time that Dunn had elevated blood pressure.
He reviewed her vitals and labs and realized she had consistently had
high blood pressure since presenting to the ER.
Aimee Dunn and Mitchell Waite after their March 5 baby
shower. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
"It was clear to me at that time that the patient was suffering from
preeclampsia," he wrote.
He also noted that attempts were made to reach Dr. Sheri-Lee Samson,
the obstetrician on call, but she and another doctor had been in the
operating rooms, performing emergency caesarean sections.
He noted that Dunn was in diabetic ketoacidosis.
Soon thereafter, she had a seizure and was rushed to acute care for
resuscitation.
When "obstetrics" saw Dunn at 6:30 a.m. on March 23, no fetal
heartbeat could be identified, the autopsy report said.
'Doesn't sound good'
Waite, a mechanic, said he was getting ready for work when he got the
call to come back to the hospital.
"They said I had to go to L and D [labour and delivery] right away,
and I was like, OK, this doesn't sound good," said Waite.
"So I'm in L and D and they're explaining what's going on, and they
told me about the seizures. They weren't upfront about Reia dying.
"They're like, 'It's possible she may have passed away.' So I was left
there, not quite understanding the whole concept."
Dr. Erica Schollenberg, with the department of pathology at the IWK
Hospital in Halifax, wrote in her autopsy report that the fetus was
anatomically normal and likely died in the overnight hours.
"Specific mechanism of fetal demise in maternal eclampsia is not well
understood but is likely asphyxial due to acute insufficiency of
vascular supply from the uterus to the placenta," she wrote.
By the time Dunn had her seizure, Schollenberg said, she had
laboratory features of both eclampsia and diabetic ketoacidosis.
Hospital's apology
Dunn said it took her a while to find the strength to ask for her
medical records.
When she got them, she felt sick all over again.
She wrote a detailed complaint describing what happened to Horizon
patient representative Gillian Gillies, who set a meeting for May 31.
Also present were Nicole Tupper, the hospital's executive director,
Dr. Erica Frecker, head of obstetrics, and Dr. Krishna Pulchan, head
of emergency medicine.
"They basically apologized for what happened," Waite said.
Dunn said she was touched by Pulchan's kindness.
"He was a really quiet man ,and when he ended up having his turn, he
spoke very softly," she recalled.
Dunn and Waite decorated a child's room in whites and pinks ahead of
Dunn’s due date of April 27. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
She said Pulchan offered his deepest condolences and told her tears
had come to his eyes when he read the complaint.
"He couldn't believe how out of all that happened that night, if one
person would have given any type of compassion that this result could
have possibly been changed," Dunn said.
"Yeah that was the problem," Waite said. "Nobody really cared enough
that night."
Neither Dunn nor Waite took notes of what was said in the meeting.
They said they were told there were not enough emergency specialists
to staff the ER, so family doctors were filling the gap.
They also said the hospital was working on plans to add critical
triage care to the labour and delivery unit. The emergency department
would be making changes to better monitor patients in the ER waiting
room.
Horizon's statement
CBC News requested interviews with any of the physicians who were
present at the May 31 meeting and a copy of any action plan that
resulted from the review.
No interviews or details were provided.
Instead, Horizon forwarded a written statement from Margaret Melanson,
the interim president and CEO.
"Horizon has a thorough quality review process in place which ensures
concerns expressed by a patient about the care they receive in our
facilities are followed up on. Results — as well as any
recommendations or mitigating actions — that may come from the review
are shared openly and transparently with the patient and their loved
ones," wrote Melanson.
Complaint filed with college
Dunn said she filed a complaint with the College of Physicians and
Surgeons of New Brunswick. The college did confirm it's reviewing her
complaint filed against Dr. Stephen Cashman of Vancouver.
Outgoing president Dr. Ed Schollenberg said Cashman will be given an
opportunity to respond before the college decides next steps.
The college could decide to conduct a disciplinary hearing.
Schollenberg said it all takes time and he wondered if this case would
end up under the scrutiny of a coroner's inquest.
"I would think this would be eligible," he said.
Dunn and Waite are still grieving the loss of their first child.
The hospital let Dunn hold Reia for a while. She was also given a
plaster cast of Reia's tiny feet and hands and a handprint.
Dunn said what she really wants, since she'll never get her baby back,
is to have the hospital follow through on what it promised.
Another death in ER
On July 12, a man described as a senior sitting in a wheelchair died
alone while waiting to be seen in the Chalmers ER.
Dunn was shocked. She'd been told staff would get "compassion
training" and improvements were already in the works.
"They said they had a new plan to make sure that patients in the
waiting room would be seen by someone and would get some kind of
treatment while they were waiting. Even if it's just Gravol for
nausea."
She doesn't want to hear about people not getting proper care in the
emergency room.
"At this point we're determined to keep fighting for change," Dunn said.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Rachel Cave
Rachel Cave is a CBC reporter based in Saint John, New Brunswick.
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Ousted Horizon CEO pushed for COVID 'red phase' in hospitals
‘Seventh COVID wave is amongst us,’ Dornan said in email days before firing
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 04, 2022 7:00 AM AT
Dr. John Dornan, former president and CEO, Horizon Health Network
(Horizon Health Network)
The former CEO of Horizon Health wanted to move the province's
hospitals back to the "red phase" of COVID-19 measures just days
before he was fired from the job.
Dr. John Dornan said in an email on July 11 that "a seventh COVID wave
is amongst us," with hospitalizations and staff outbreaks increasing.
A Horizon infectious disease and infection protection control
committee was "recommending moving to Hospital Red phase next week if
numbers continue to deteriorate," Dornan wrote in the email obtained
by CBC News.
Dornan wrote that officials "could make that call collectively on
Monday or Tuesday next week," referring to July 18 and 19.
The red phase move never happened, even though the numbers did
continue to deteriorate.
The following Tuesday, the two health authorities reported an increase
in weekly COVID-19 admissions, active hospitalizations, hospital
outbreaks and staff infections between July 10-16.
Dornan was fired July 15.
A major element of red phase protocols would be a ban on routine
visitors seeing patients in hospitals.
In his email, the then-CEO said moving to the red phase was
"contingent" on Vitalité and Public Health agreeing to it.
But Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Jennifer Russell said
Wednesday she had no insight into why there was no move to red.
"I don't want to speak for the RHAs. They are the decision-makers in
this case, so they're the authority on what happens in their own
operations," she said.
Dornan said in the July 11 email it was "probable" Horizon would
communicate the possibility of a move to the red phase "publicly this
week as a heads up. It is good to be transparent."
That never happened.
At the time of Dornan's firing, Premier Blaine Higgs said a change in
leadership was needed to break a "bureaucratic stalemate" in the
health system and push forward reforms to address long wait lists and
clogged emergency departments.
Higgs made the changes after the death of a patient who was waiting
for care in the emergency department at the Dr. Everett Chalmers
Regional Hospital in Fredericton.
Dr. John Dornan was fired from his position as CEO of Horizon
Health. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Vitalité vice-president of medical services Natalie Banville replied
to Dornan's July 11 email that she had spoken to CEO France
Desrosiers, and officials at the health authority wanted to "analyze
the situation more closely."
She said cases were increasing but only two of Vitalité's 17
admissions were "COVID related."
"We need to look more closely at the epidemiology and zone situation
before moving to red phase," Banville wrote, saying Vitalité's
leadership would meet July 12 and respond with a recommendation.
Dornan thanked her and said Horizon would "strive to be on the same
page." It's not clear what Vitalité ended up recommending the next day
or why Dornan's replacement, interim CEO Margaret Melanson, didn't
follow through with his plan.
Unlike Dornan, Desrosiers remains in her position as CEO of Vitalité.
Dornan turned down an interview request from CBC News about his email.
"I have no comments," he said Wednesday.
In a statement to CBC News, Melanson said Horizon has "gained more
knowledge of the virus" during the pandemic and can now adopt "more
targeted and flexible" measures while maintaining important services
and allowing visitors.
The statement did not address why Dornan felt differently and favoured
a full move to red phase less than four weeks ago.
Three days after his email, and one day before his firing as CEO,
Dornan encouraged Horizon staff in an internal memo to "consider
showing an example" by masking in indoor public spaces due to
"escalating" COVID-19 transmission.
A spokesperson for the Department of Health said on July 18 Dornan's
firing was "not related" to that memo.
In staff memo day before he was fired, Horizon CEO urged community
masking against COVID
Horizon and Vitalité moved to the red phase Dec. 31 during a surge of
Omicron cases. They returned to the orange phase on June 20.
Dornan's July 11 email referred to a "seventh wave" arriving, even
though the province's public health officials have been reluctant to
use the term.
Russell told Brunswick News July 12 she might not define future
increases in cases as waves.
"I don't want to call it a wave in a sense that everybody defines that
differently. I'm saying it's an increased number of cases," she told
the newspapers. "Whether it's a wave or not a wave, we're seeing an
increased activity level in COVID cases."
Between July 10 and 16, the same week Dornan wrote the email and was
fired, 30 people were newly admitted to hospitals because of COVID-19,
up from 15 the previous week.
That number jumped again to 40 people between July 17 and 23.
The two health authorities had 209 staff out sick between July 10 and
16. That increased to 229 the week of July 17-23.
As of July 16, Horizon and Vitalité had 84 active hospitalized
COVID-19 patients. It increased to 90 a week later.
The number of weekly new cases dropped last week for the first time in
weeks. Those numbers tracked infections from July 17-23 and officials
said that could indicate that hospitalisation numbers, which lag
behind cases by a week or two, would soon peak and start to come down
as well.
In new numbers released Wednesday for July 24-30, the number of weekly
new cases dropped again and the number of hospital admissions and
active hospitalizations for COVID-19 decreased slightly.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
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Fred Brewer
So if Higgs fired Dr. Dornan who had only been CEO for less than 4
months, will he also fire his Trustees that he put in place to run the
health boards in 4 months time if they have not fixed the ER problems?
Michael Cain
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Higgs is running the joint now; the trustees
are just for show
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Michael Cain: IMHO Higgs should be smoking a joint not running one.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Those two Trustees have already been working
almost a year, supposedly implementing a Health Plan. How well has
that gone, yet now they're replacing two Boards, many of whom were
duly elected. Nonsensical. And how did the CEO of Vitality survive the
purge after big problems in their ERs, loosing four Oncologists and
having been there about two years?
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From: "Scott-Wallace, Tammy Hon. (THC/TCP-WEB/EDF)" <Tammy.Scott-Wallace@gnb.ca>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 20:10:51 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE CBC's latest spin about why we should
pity the Poor Immigrants while Higgy et al continue to deny my right
to Free Health Care
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are important to me.
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Green, Matthew - M.P." <Matthew.Green@parl.gc.ca>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 20:10:53 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE CBC's latest spin about why we should
pity the Poor Immigrants while Higgy et al continue to deny my right
to Free Health Care
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
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---------- Original message ----------
From: "Holloway, Jim" <Jim.Holloway@bakermckenzie.co
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 20:09:39 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: [EXTERNAL] RE CBC's latest spin about why we
should pity the Poor Immigrants while Higgy et al continue to deny my
right to Free Health Care
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
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---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:09:02 -0300
Subject: RE CBC's latest spin about why we should pity the Poor
Immigrants while
Higgy et al continue to deny my right to Free Health Care
To: David.Zaslowsky@bakermckenzie.
William.Devaney@bakermckenzie.
info@ecaair.org, achilds@mikmawconservation.ca, admin@acic-caci.org,
info@equite-equity.com, moncef.lakouas@bgcmoncton.com,
minister-ministre@swc-cfc.gc.c
Matthew.Green@parl.gc.ca, Tammy.Scott-Wallace@gnb.ca,
sean.fraser@parl.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, "barbara.massey"
<barbara.massey@justice.gc.ca>
"erin.otoole" <erin.otoole@parl.gc.ca>, "jagmeet.singh"
<jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, rob.moore@parl.gc.ca, "John.Williamson"
<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>, "barb.whitenect"
<barb.whitenect@gnb.ca>, "Ross.Wetmore" <Ross.Wetmore@gnb.ca>,
info@susanholt.ca, hannah.rudderham@cbc.ca, susan@susanholt.ca,
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<andre@jafaust.com>, andrew <andrew@frankmagazine.ca>, briangallant10
<briangallant10@gmail.com>, "bruce.fitch" <bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>,
"robert.mckee" <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
<robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
david.coon@gnb.ca, "Roger.L.Melanson" <roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>,
"benoit.bourque" <benoit.bourque@gnb.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>,
"Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
<kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan (LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333@gmail.com, moncef.lakouas@nbmc-cmnb.ca,
"Dr.France.Desrosiers" <Dr.France.Desrosiers@vitalite
johannelise.landry@ccnb.ca, johannelise.landry@vitalitenb.
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Desrosiers, Dr. France (VitaliteNB)" <Dr.France.Desrosiers@vitalite
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:25:37 +0000
Subject: Réponse automatique : At least your lawyer Tim Ross can never
deny that I am still alive despite the fact I have been denied Heath
Care since 2008 when a doctor directed 3 members of the RCMP and two
hospital security guards to assault me CORRECT?
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Je suis à l'extérieur du bureau jusqu'au 10 juillet.
Pour toute urgence, veuillez contacter M. Stépahen Legacy jusqu'au 7
juillet, puis, Dre Natalie Banville.
I'm away from the office until July 10th.
For any emergency, please contact M. Stephane Legacy until July 7th
than, Dre Natalie Banville.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Newcomers waiting up to 9 months for N.B. medicare card
N.B. Multicultural Council president Moncef Lakouas said government
needs to make sure it has enough resources
Jordan Gill · CBC News · Posted: Aug 04, 2022 3:16 PM AT
Newcomers moving to New Brunswick from outside Canada are eligible
for Medicare on Day 1 of their arrival according to the province, as
long as they meet the eligibility requirements. (Shutterstock)
While wait times for medical treatments are increasing for many New
Brunswickers, some newcomers are struggling to even get a medicare
card.
New Brunswick Multicultural Council president Moncef Lakouas says he's
hearing about cases where newcomers are waiting up to nine months to
get one — and said it's having a snowball effect.
"If they're sick, they can't access work, and if they can't access
work, they cannot afford to pay rent and they can't provide for their
families, which is very, very dangerous and very serious," he said.
Looking to province
Newcomers moving to New Brunswick from outside Canada are eligible for
medicare on Day 1 of their arrival, according to the province, as long
as they "meet the eligibility requirements and are deemed … to have
established a permanent residence in New Brunswick."
In a statement to CBC News, the province said the medicare team is
currently hiring more staff to reduce waits times.
The province said it currently takes about 15 weeks to process an
application, but those waiting for a medicare card should not avoid or
delay medical care.
"Individuals awaiting a medicare card should know that if they are
approved the effective date for the card can be backdated to their
arrival in New Brunswick or the effective date of their valid
Immigration, Refugee Citizenship Canada status in Canada document,
whichever is latest," said Michaela Power, a spokesperson for the
Department of Health.
The province said there is a process for those who require immediate
medical attention and do not yet have a physical medicare card.
"These cases are identified, and their files are subsequently
prioritized for processing," she said.
Lakouas says if the province wants to attract more newcomers, they
need to make sure they have access to health care.
New Brunswick Multicultural Council president Moncef Lakouas said he’s
hearing about cases where newcomers are waiting up to nine months to
get a medicare card. (CBC/Radio-Canada)
He says the system set up for dealing with requests in the past
doesn't fit today's need — or numbers.
"What we used to welcome back then in terms of the number of
immigrants, which [was] a couple thousand a year, is not the case
anymore," said Lakouas.
"We're welcoming more than 6,000 immigrants a year. We have the
intention to increase that amount to 8,000 to 10,000 immigrants a
year. We need to make sure that they're provided with their medicare
and medical attention as soon as possible."
Problems and solutions
Lakouas says there's no financial help for newcomers without a
medicare card, so many of them have to pay out of pocket for
treatment.
He says this can be difficult for people who just moved to Canada.
"Just getting access to … emergency rooms just for consultation could
cost a little fortune for someone who just arrived here, who doesn't
need to disperse this money for something that they're supposed to get
for free," said Lakouas.
Lakouas said some newcomers have had to pay out of pocket for
treatment, which is expensive. (Zoom)
Lakouas says they need a solution.
"It could be a process as simple as just getting access to your social
insurance numbers, you get that number right away," said Lakouas.
"When immigrants are coming to the province, they could get that
number right away, which allows them to get the medical attention that
they need."
With files from Information Morning Summer Edition
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 23:46:54 -0300
Subject: Fwd: CBC's latest spin and malicious control of the narative
on "New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity" and "Immigrants left in
limbo as permit processing takes months" and "COVID-19"
To: David.Zaslowsky@bakermckenzie.
William.Devaney@bakermckenzie.
info@ecaair.org, achilds@mikmawconservation.ca, admin@acic-caci.org,
info@equite-equity.com, moncef.lakouas@bgcmoncton.com,
minister-ministre@swc-cfc.gc.c
Matthew.Green@parl.gc.ca, Tammy.Scott-Wallace@gnb.ca,
sean.fraser@parl.gc.ca, jan.jensen@justice.gc.ca, "barbara.massey"
<barbara.massey@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
"erin.otoole" <erin.otoole@parl.gc.ca>, "jagmeet.singh"
<jagmeet.singh@parl.gc.ca>, rob.moore@parl.gc.ca, "John.Williamson"
<John.Williamson@parl.gc.ca>
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 02:44:13 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: CBC's latest spin and malicious control of
the narative on "New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity" and
"Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months" and
"COVID-19"
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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From: Premier of Ontario | Premier ministre de l’Ontario <Premier@ontario.ca>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 02:44:13 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: CBC's latest spin and malicious control of
the narative on "New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity" and
"Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months" and
"COVID-19"
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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https://twitter.com/DavidRayA
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks everybody in CBC knows that Tammy Scott-Wallace the minister
responsible for women's equality should also review the emails she
requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blog
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Care workers suffer pay gap of up to $10 an hour, says coalition
New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says workers in women dominated
industry paid less than they should be
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 2:43 PM AT
23 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
"In a statement to CBC News Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister
responsible for women's equality, said she appreciates the work that
has gone into the report and will review it."
Methinks Scott-Wallace should also review the emails she requested of
me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
David Amos
If anyone bothered to follow the crumbs offered within this article a
course Political Science is not required to understand that everything
political is always about the money and that governments always use
our taxpayer funds to court support for one political party or the
other for their benefit not ours. Methinks many ladies would agree
that making things a gender issue is just plain dumb N'esy Pas?
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study
pay inequity and educate workers
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
https://twitter.com/DavidRayA
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bullshit about me
perhaps Higgy et al should explain real slow my status as an American
resident to Lou their evil and very mindless spin doctor N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blo
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months
Lauren Bird · CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 7:00 AM AT
18 Comments
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bs about me perhaps
Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor little Lou real slow
my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks whereas I am a Canadian Citizen born and raised who ran for
public office 7 times thus far and even sued the Queen while Higgy et
al keeps a "Stay" on my right to have Medicare card Alex LeBlanc
should mention my name to somebody ASAP N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: You claimed you were a dual citizen . Did trump
revoke your Obamacare ?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Everybody knows I am no such thing
Lauren Fisher
@Jack Rodnies-Or how about you leave and make room for them who are
clearly better people.
Jack Rodnies
Reply to @Lauren Fisher: how about no i was born here and have no
doctor or heathcare mysrlf
David Amos
Reply to @Jack Rodnies: At least you have a medicare card
https://twitter.com/DavidRayA
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks there would be very different twist on things today if a few
members of Higgy's Police State had won some seats in up in the
Campbellton area N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blog
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 4 new cases, outbreak at special care home in Balmoral
New isolation rules for travelling workers
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 1:15 PM AT
203 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
PHIL INNIS
Content disabled
The only isolation should be for people who are worried about getting
it. 99% survival rate
BuT WhAt aBoUt YoUr GrAnDpArEnts ?.............they had a good run.
Stay inside or die from fear
Nicholas Rioux
Content disabled
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Did you know that 20% of seniors live in
households containing non seniors? And that 25% of households have
someone with a disability? Granted not all disabilities will mean
someone at risk but then none of this includes people with chronic
conditions that ARE at risk but don't count as disabled.
So that's very likely half or more households containing elderly and
other at risk people with those of little risk.
Can you tell us how you would isolate all those folk who are at risk
but sharing the same homes as the others?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: I would leave it up for the old folks such I to
decide whether they wish to live in fear or not
PHIL INNIS
Content disabled
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux: I wouldn't isolate them at all and have a
family discussion about the pitfalls of life. Instead of THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE being out of work and having children starve, we use logic and
let nature run its course. Its crass I know but its more than fair.
PHIL INNIS
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: exactly
Les Cooper
So is this proof that masks are not working?
I dont know why province doesnt set up Covid testing at the airports .
Would save a lot of covid issues. Make it mandatory to leave airport
when arriving
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Methinks a virus doesn't follow Higgy's orders
the passenger may leave as ordered however the pesky little thing may
stay if it wishes N'esy Pas?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Les Cooper: they aren’t sick when they are flying in. Just
have the virus in the easy bake oven. That is why the spread is
happening. It gets shedding days later, and then they say, oh, I guess
I brought the virus back with me from my travels.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: That's why we need multiple tests - along with
isolation - so that cases can be identified asap so contact tracing
can jump ahead and we can ensure the virus is contained.
People are traveling among the Atlantic Bubble on planes with people
who are going to quarantine once they land. This is a big risk. If you
fly, it should be mandatory for testing to occur multiple times to
catch cases asap. Maybe this would be a good use for the rapid
testing, for those who are traveling.
Testing should not release you from work-isolating or from quarantine
too early - because that isn't the most important thing - it should be
used to identify cases sooner so contact tracing can happen in a
timely manner to get ahead of the virus to break the chains. The
sooner this can happen, the smaller the cluster, the less likely it
will spread via community transmission. If you can link all cases to
travel, we all are better off. Once you can't track the source of
infection, it does not bode well and you cannot predict where the
virus is heading and you're left fighting blind, with the only option
to assume the entire community has it - because they could - and we
all have to be still. It's better to be proactive, than reactive.
If you have multiple tests within x amount of days, it could be shown
that most cases are identifiable within 10 days, rather than the full
14 days it could take for symptoms to show. It's hard to say. This
article is really good and explains how doing anything for these
exemptions would be infinitely better than what we were doing. There's
still risk there, but it's much, much better than what we were doing,
which was simply not enough.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Les Cooper
Reply to @Bill Henry: so we get tested right away anyway
Brian Robertson
Campbelltown, Campbelltown. Why is it always around Campbelltown?
Oh yes.
That's where they opened the bubble to a part of Quebec; an area over
which we had NO control.
Who thought that was a good idea?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Brian Robertson: It's always around Campbellton because
that''s the zone that's had the most cases and the most death -
despite not having anywhere near as many residents as some other
zones. Now as to why that would be, that's still an open question. The
bubble with Avignon is certainly one of the possibilities. But the
bubble also included Zone 4 (Edmundston) and Temiscouata. So why
didn't the bubble cause a similar rise in cases in Zone 4?
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Why zone 5 and not zone 4? The best theory
is because Campbellton sits 40 minutes away from Carleton QC. Carleton
is the Gateway to the Gaspe and is a favorite vacation spot for Quebec
City, Montreal and the Eastern Townships. With travel restrictions
this summer and fall, Carleton was overflowing with Quebec Tourists.
Carleton is also frequented by NB residents and was open for day
passes all summer. When this is all over you should really visit the
area. Great beaches with friendly bilingual service.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Brian Robertson: C-a-m-p-b-e-l-l-T-O-N.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Luke Caissy: It's also an area where government rules and
regulations are given lip service, at best, by many residents.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Luke Caissy: That makes more sense than any other theory
I've heard to date. Any skiing tourism, or can we expect a drop in
tourists come the winter?
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Luke Caissy: if one likes rocky beaches vs the nice sand
beaches of southern NB or PE. But there is 'nude' bathing at Carleton
not far from Bleu Heron restaurant.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bob Smith: Is that true of the Campbellton area more so than
the Edmundston area?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Well, that would certainly be a draw for some!
David Amos
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Cry me a river The folks up in Campbellton
have done nothing wrong at all. Methinks there would be very different
twist on things today if a few members of Higgy's Police State had won
some seats in the region recently N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Campbellton area. Terms like "squatters",
"bootleggers" and other terms are still heard in areas like
Robinsonville and such.
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Snowmobiling is huge on the Gaspe, but the
main draw for Carleton is the water.
SarahRose Werner
"they will be able to access: necessities of life and supporting
services, health care, goods and services required for work, banking
and financial services, transportation, child care, animal care, and
funeral or visitation services for members of their immediate family."
- Maybe if the government had listed what people *can't* access during
modified self-isolation, it might be a shorter list?
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: it’s a global pandemic. New Brunswick has
done remarkably well. Hang in there girl a few more months.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Agreed that NB has done remarkably
well. Let's keep doing well! :-) I think it's going to be more than a
*few* more months, however. I'd love to be wrong.
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: You will be wrong - we’re at peak and
numbers will start to decline as the death rate has already done so.
You’re okay Sarah!
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: We might be at the peak of the second
wave. But until we have vaccines and/or treatments that are safe,
effective and widely available, there's nothing to stop us from having
successive waves. Pragmatism has always stood me in good stead. :-)
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yea Right
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Who would ever take a vaccine for a virus
which is clearly not that contagious, less than 0.6% across Canada
have tested positive, nor deadly; = 3.5% of all deaths in 2019. For
this, we destroy peoples lives for generations to come.
Donald Gallant
Perhaps not a good idea to hire across zones might be a thought.
Les Cooper
Reply to @Donald Gallant: there are doctors at the Fredericton
Hospital that commute back and forth from Montreal etc. Will they be
quarantined??
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Good question
Fred Dee
Reply to @Les Cooper: who??
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Dee: several. No names.
They are bilingual and get paid ton to rent in Freddy. 3 in my neighborhood.
Bill Henry
What does it mean when you have a blue circle by your post.
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Bill Henry: bill gates is going to give you covid
David Amos
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Oh My My
Dave Cudmore
Reply to @Bill Henry:
You're in danger of becoming a conservative.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dave Cudmore: ROTFL
Roy Kirk
Do the new rules apply to people travelling on charter/private
aircraft. If so, how are they keeping track?
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk Go figure
Bill Henry
Geez Lou, you’re posts were the only sensible ones on here. Now you
sunk down to the rest of us
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks folks must make allowances for
conservative spin doctors not playing with a full deck However they
really should mind their mouth and quit putting their foot in it after
stepping in their own BS or they may wind up awful ill and not from a
pesky virus N'esy Pas?
Marie Buckley
Time to get our " Guy Lafleurs " up North under control.o
David Amos
Reply to @Marie Buckley: ???
Bill Henry
Will be like the us. People will start taking government to court to
prove they cannot restrict Canadians to their houses.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Yup
Bob Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: A bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Bob Smith: I think Higgs is reaching outside his powers. May
take a judge to tell him
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bill Henry: Every province across the country is restricting
people to their houses under specific circumstances and has been doing
so since March. It's not just Higgs.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Bill Henry: Who is going to take the time to do this? Be
dragged through the mud, chastized for challenging the government? I'd
have to stay in NB for longer than I care at this time, so it's not
me. I'd rather go home, get stuff sorted out and then leave a few days
later. forced confinement for just a few days every 4 months or so.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: So that makes it ok then, sure.
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Bill Henry
Terry Tibbs or Amos, do these changes help your cause?
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: What cause?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
What changes?
Nothing specific has been said and we both know what a politician's
promise is worth?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: ok, I’m reading the same. Nothing has changed.
What is a modified self isolation.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
Exactly what is supposed to exist, but doesn't. It's a shell and pea game.
Randy McNally
Reply to @Bill Henry: I'm still trying to figure out what a modified bubble is
Bill Henry
So no change then. What a joke.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Figured it out have ya?
Nick Papagorgio
It's absurd to have stricter isolation rules for people traveling
outside the bubble for work. Does the government not care about the
economy and mental health? These restrictions should only come into
effect when the hospitals are at capacity. People are losing their
jobs and businesses because of the restrictions put forth by the
government. A perfect example is WestJet cancelling all routes in and
out of NB - the bubble is to blame. That's only some of the jobs that
were lost, I can't imagine how many more there are.
Bill Henry
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: there is absolutely no change
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose
N'esy Pas?
Les Cooper
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Air Canada will be next. Then essential
workers will be unemployed and collecting EI cheques from NB. Lol
Mary Smith
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: NS and PEI have similar policies in place
for weeks or months now. The idea is that the exemptions to the
quarantines are the weak links. If the virus is not here in the
Atlantic Bubble then that means that not all people coming in will
bring it in, but that it MUST be brought in from outside the Atlantic
Bubble.
It is better to be proactive in a pandemic than reactive. It is better
for work, the economy, hospitals, mental health, etc if we focus on
the weak links ..
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: "...come into affect when hospitals are at
capacity..." A large reason for the the plan is to keep the system by
waiting until at capacity when it would be hell.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: So Nick, where do you travel for work?
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Nope, they do not care about people, and
they do not understand the science either. But, the majority of the
voters wanted this, so there you are. I wonder how many of these
workers voted for Higgs?
Stephan Sommers
The two of them are going to restrict NB into poverty. But hey it’s in
the name of health right.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
How so?
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Oh, just let in the diseased is the best
policy ? Let's take a vote on who's got / made the best decisions ,
you , or the 2 you refer to ! You lose 100 times outta 100
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Where is westjet or via rail or tourism at
these days? What else is NB’ers willing to give up in the name of
health. By the time this is over the east coast will be in a real bad
spot. I hope I’m wrong because I love living here.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You don't know?
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: we could just test people two day prior and again
when they have been here for 24 h then all is well. Look at Bermuda,
they do that with all foreign workers and tourist. Nice try.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Better than letting the positive tested in
. But you can get out if you'd prefer , nothings holding you from
leaving, other than if other places let you in . But go ahead , we
sure won't hold you back !
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
Westjet and Via are just pandering for government money.
Tourism is, for the most part, poorly paid, benefit free, seasonal
work, no great loss. Hopefully those folks find real jobs and the
operators go under.
Clearly you didn't get the memo? Immigrants are going to save us.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: So you got nothing right on.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: I think my NB employees would prefer I keep
business here. That being said I also have a rental in ON and FL.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: VIA Rail hasn't served anywhere east of
Quebec City are from beginning & won't for immediate future. For that
VIA I don't know why they put on service from C'ton to Halifax since
the bubble began.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: It's not even in the name of health now.
Jake Quinlan
"Because the vast majority of the province's cases originate outside
the Atlantic bubble"
No, in the Atlantic provinces, they all do, ultimately. We (the 4
provinces) "got to zero" multiple times. We never had "embers of
virus" burning all summer long like other provinces. Now (last several
weeks) of course, we can say not all cases originate from outside
bubble - we have community spread in places.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jake Quinlan: If you want to get technical , ALL cases in
the world , except for the country of origin of the 1st cases are
travel related cases ! Does that make you feel better ?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you must feel better now that you got
that off you chest N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to @Lou Bell: Don't feel better (or worse) as I already had
figured out that all cases outside China are "travel related".
Ian Scott
Took a while but finally learned that having contract workers come and
go from hots zones not a good idea. Public has been saying it for 2
weeks. Yes we realize that they are needed , maybe.But not when going
into publics spaces with close contact quarters or LTC's. You could
see it coming. Now 6 dead and positives continue. Wonder about all the
airline folks that came in with Freddy and Moncton dudes.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ian Scott:
When you make your living telling tall tales you tend to discount
everything anyone else says.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh So True
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Telling tales? You're the one that said they
had stopped making references to cases being travel related when all
that happened was having all that mass testing to deal with and the
next day's report they used travel related again.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
It isn't me "playing hard and fast" with the truth in this province.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nor I
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: But you said something that was disproven the
very next day. Face it, you thought "conspiracy" when it was just a
delay.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
There are several active conspiracies around covid 19, you should
start paying attention, they can't even keep their stories straight
from day to day.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Ian Scott: Who brought in the cases and who did they infect
? Most of us don't know , but it appears you know it all ! Please
entice us with all you know , oh great one .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You should know if anyone here would . But we
've come to recognize your frailties
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: There's one big conspiracy , and it's yours
Fred Sanford
It`ll be interesting to see how they make the "modified" isolation
work. NB has a lot of people that work in other provinces and return
home for 1 week on a 3 or 4 week rotation. Even if they restrict
themselves to their home (unlikely), they can still theoretically pass
any infection along to their family members who are not isolating.
Lots of holes here.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Sanford:
Of course, they are the same holes that have been there all along,
with the increase in cases elsewhere it is only natural that more is
being brought home for supper. They attempted to plug these holes by
making us all wear masks, which of course, was never going to fix
anything.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Sanford: I plan to do lots of overtime to avoid flying
to NB. If the out of province workers not flying to NB which are the
ones helping keep airports and flights going in NB then I can see
flights getting canceled.
Toby Tolly
jacques got the last question in on this video conference
totally unrelated but stirring the language issue
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Welcome back to the circus
Lou Bell
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Jacques took the election loss really hard !
Like most Liberals , they've never recovered . They're still wired in
the " what about me " mode !
Joseph Carrier
Balmoral is 40 km from Campbellton BTW...
Dave Shimla
Reply to @Joseph Carrier: 24 kms according to googly earth
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Survey says?
Dave Shimla
Reply to @David Amos: 27 if you take the long way lol
Ian Scott
Tough place to be. Dr. Russel handles things well. Her French
capabilities are also extraordinary. A premier in making.?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Ian Scott: But so much for simultaneous translation ,so half
of conference useless for most given questions.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Not sure she can or would want to deal with all
the game-playing that goes on in politics.
James Edward
Reply to @Ian Scott: I hope not.
Toby Tolly
Reply to @Ian Scott: the simultaneous translation is usually horrible
anyway as they miss the start of every language switch.
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Ian Scott: Her French is quite good really, but I would not
call it extraordinary - she has to grasp for words sometimes.
certainly her effort is extraordinary.
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Toby Tolly: I really wish they'd release complete
transcripts in both languages in a simple plain text format so pains
like me can quickly search through it.
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Who cares?
James Edward
The Joose isn't worth the Squeeze
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: C'est vrai
James Edward
the game is still going? hmmm I don't know anyone who's died or been
hospitalized...I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it's not worth
shutting everything down for.
Renee Garry
Reply to @James Edward: well I'm not starving, neither is my familly.
Famine is a hoax
June Arnott
Reply to @James Edward: you are lucky then You think it’s a conspiracy?
June Arnott
Reply to @Renee Garry: good one, hope he gets it
James Edward
Reply to @Renee Garry: did i say famine? no. We are going thru a
global social and financial reset. It won't end well for most of us.
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: True
Justin Gunther
Reply to @June Arnott: Hope he gets what exactly?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @June Arnott: "good one, hope he gets it"
Nope, he missed it completely.
James Edward
Reply to @June Arnott: good one, hope She gets it
Ian Scott
It would be nice to know if these outbreaks were related to work
travel. And if so how the policy is to be changed to prevent it
happening over and over. Then the rest of us could relax again instead
of wondering if the dude that flew in yesterday from TO is out
wandering about with covid (about to become active) with his kids and
out for Halloween.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Agreed. We need fewer exemptions from the
self-isolation rule and better enforcement of that rule.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
For starts: how about 100% fewer exemptions?
Otherwise, all we have to look forward to is another episode of
Groundhog Day "a la Higgs".
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @Ian Scott:
How many travellers from Quebec?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: Quebec isn't the source of all COVID cases.
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Agreed but i have a relative in NB and he says there are quebec plates
everywhere....me, being in ontario we have spiked in cases.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: It depends on what part of NB you're in.
I'm in southwestern NB and no, we don't have Quebec plates everywhere.
Up north, where people commute back and forth daily over the Quebec/NB
border to do essential work? Yes, there's almost certainly more Quebec
plates. That said, according the grapevine the recent outbreak in the
Moncton health zone (#1) was caused by someone visiting from Ontario
who failed to self-isolate as required. Also, we have two health zones
(#4 and #5) that border Quebec. Zone 4's had very few cases, Zone 5's
had more than any other zone. So it's not as simple as Quebec border =
lots of cases, because that's just not true. Some people would like it
to be that simple, but it's not.
Dave Shimla
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: southeastern NB/Dieppe is full of quebec
plates, and most are not rentals, unless rental companies started
pimping up their cars
Amajor Hall
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: It essentially doesn't matter, there are
NOT a lot of cases anyways no matter travel or otherwise...and they
are decreasing as we speak...15 new cases in the last week, but 65
recoveries in the same period...
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I am fond of Groundhog Days
Dan Lee
Reply to @David Amos:
Somehow it doesnt surprise me............
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the Irving Clan would love to know
that during Groundhog Day Gale in 1976 my number man and I were
betting on which letter of the huge Irving sign across the road from
my bike shop was gonna come down next Most Maritimers in my neck of
the woods would agree that was quite a storm N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
This Groundhog day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know what you implied but thats Yankee
fiction what i said really happened in the Maritimes
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos:I recall that It warmed up to around 65 degrees F
in the afternoon, the sun was melting the snow in the fields, water
was running everywhere,. Then it blew in a rain on a warm south
westerly wind that quickly shifted to a brisk north wind as the rain
switched to snow. The wind continued to blow gusting over 70 mph
through the night, as Atlantic Canada and Northern New England plunged
into a deep freeze of minus 25 and change. By morning everything was
frozen solid and wind damage everywhere. I think it may ahve taken out
the pier at Old Orchard Beach in southern Maine.
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos: I remember it well.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
New Brunswick reports one new case of COVID-19
Potential public exposure at Moncton gym, people asked to self-monitor
CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 1:32 PM AT
46 Comments
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks we are all waiting with bated breath for Al Clark and his
buddies little Lou, Tiny Tim Harvey Baby, Johnny "Never Been Good"
Jacobs and of course the all knowing shill Mr Oliver to make an
appearance and begin offering their two bits worth about their hero
Higgy's circus today N'esy Pas Mr Tibbs???
Ben Haroldson
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos:(He said something twice but it was gone by the
time I rebooted my computer)
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: cool nicknames. Did you put that together during
a group visit with the rest of your "friends" at the restigouche
hospital?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Cool nicknames?? Yea right
Methinks turnabout is fair play hence you should enjoy a little Deja
Vu from earlier today N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Harvey York
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: it's like a 6 year old unloved boy trapped in an
old man's body
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
Diana Austin
Those loudly protesting against Covid restrictions and touting instead
letting the virus run rampant to achieve herd immunity overall in
societies have often taken their lead from Sweden’s relaxed approach
to Covid and their guiding epidemiologist, Dr Anders Tegnell. Of
course, as others have pointed out, Sweden has had a much higher death
rate than its Scandinavian neighbours, and recent economic reviews
have shown their economy has not fared much better, either. But the
latest comments by Dr Anders Tegnell in a recent interview with Die
Zeit, a German newspaper (also repeated in the London Times), suggest
that even he has been learning on the job, so to speak. He now says
that the pandemic is approaching a “critical juncture” in Sweden after
the number of daily cases rose by 70 per cent in a week. He does still
defend aspects of his early approach, but to the surprise of many, he
is also now recommending some “mini-lockdowns” in specific areas. Even
more surprisingly, Tegnell has now also said that it would be both
futile and immoral for a state to deliberately pursue herd immunity:
“Throughout history there has up to now been no infectious disease
whose transmission was fully halted by herd immunity without a
vaccine.” So it seems that doctors everywhere are still learning how
much is still left to learn about how this new virus operates and how
societies might best respond
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Diana Austin: yawn
Lou Bell
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Very informative Diana ! Of course
for the ignorant naysayers , not mentioning any names , this is the
last thing they wanr to hear . True , informative information by
health professionals debunking all the BS we see spread by the
uninformed who get their information from the false narratives of the
conspiracy theorists off social media !!!!!!!!!
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: hard at it Lou? I guess you’re not dead yet?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant
bs about me perhaps Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor
little Lou real slow my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I should remind the RCMP of this comment
of your pal's from yesterday N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Well well well! Surprise surprise surprise! I
was convinced that your short list of broken record responses were
produced by pressing a function key. Colour me flabbergasted, like a
chinese mill owner finding a shredded panhead at the bottom of the
boat ;-)
From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2022 10:43:38 -0300
Subject: Hey Higgy Have your buddy Margaret Melanson tell us another
one will ya?
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"Horizon has a thorough quality review process in place which ensures
concerns expressed by a patient about the care they receive in our
facilities are followed up on."
Need I say that one was PURE D BS???
https://davidraymondamos3.blog
Tuesday, 2 August 2022
After more hospital complaints, Higgs gets involved in health-care
system — again
Round 4
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canad
Fredericton ER death compounds grief for mother who lost baby
Aimee Dunn says Chalmers Hospital promised more compassionate care
Rachel Cave · CBC News · Posted: Aug 05, 2022 6:00 AM AT
Aimee Dunn and her partner, Mitchell Waite, four days before Dunn was
admitted to the emergency department of a Fredericton hospital, where
she lost her baby. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
When Aimee Dunn heard that a patient died alone in the waiting room of
a Fredericton emergency department less than four months after she
lost her infant in the same ER, she felt grief and rage all over
again.
"My baby looked perfect," said Dunn, who had to be delivered of a
stillborn girl by C-section on March 23 at the Dr. Everett Chalmers
Regional Hospital.
"They promised to do better. Now someone else is dead."
At the heart of Dunn's pain is why it took 12 hours for anyone to
check on the health of her baby.
WATCH | Fredericton couple still in grief after losing child in ER
Woman who lost baby in Fredericton ER says hospital promised to do better
4 hours ago
Duration 4:54
Aimee Dunn says hospital vowed to make changes, but then she heard a
man died in the ER waiting room
Dunn, who was 35 weeks pregnant, says her medical history should have
prompted her pregnancy to be a top concern.
At 30, Dunn had already had one miscarriage and an ectopic pregnancy.
A diabetic from childhood, she came into the hospital wearing her insulin pump.
A plaster cast of Reia Dunn’s feet and
hands, given to Dunn and Waite by staff at the Dr. Everett Chalmers
Regional Hospital. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
And her records showed she'd had lupus, an autoimmune disease that can
raise the risk of pregnancy complications.
She said she'd been in the care of Dr. Erica Holloway, a maternal
fetal specialist.
Dunn believed the maternity ward would take good care of her.
She knew its corners and its crannies, working there nights in housekeeping.
Her tasks include taking out the garbage, disinfecting equipment and
cleaning up after women give birth in the labour and delivery unit.
"It can take up to an hour," Dunn said. "But none of this bothers me.
I'm happy to do it. "
Something went wrong
On March 22, when Dunn was still excited that her day was coming —
that soon she'd be a mother herself in labour and delivery, holding
the baby girl she'd already decided to name Reia — she started feeling
pain.
She began vomiting and heaving uncontrollably.
Her partner, Mitchell Waite, said he called labour and delivery and
was told to bring Dunn in.
But when they got to the unit, they were turned away and instructed to
go to the emergency department instead.
Dunn was admitted immediately at 5:43 p.m., according to the autopsy report.
Already, she symptoms of preeclampsia, a known risk factor in maternal
death and fetal death.
But Dr. Stephen Cashman in the ER seemed preoccupied with her cannabis
use, Dunn said.
She had been diagnosed early in her pregnancy with hyperemesis, or
severe nausea and vomiting. A cannabis user since age 15, she decided
to keep using it during her pregnancy against the advice of her
physicians. She said it helped reduce the nausea, but more important,
it gave her an appetite.
Dunn says she’s getting by with support from her friends and family.
From left are Aimee’s grandmother Albina Stuckless, Aimee, best friend
Anita Mihailescu and Aimee’s mother Joanne Dunn. (Rachel Cave/CBC)
In the ER, both Dunn and Waite felt dismissed by nursing staff and Cashman.
"He really didn't want to do anything else with us," Waite said. "He
won't even talk to me, and I don't even smoke weed.
"Both him and the nurse were treating us just like poor people who
were potheads."
Dunn's medical records indicate Cashman was planning to discharge
Dunn, but she was reluctant to go and insisted on staying overnight.
She doesn't remember Waite leaving the hospital around 10 o'clock that night.
"I thought everything was handled at this point," Waite said. "She's
in good hands. She's in a good place. She's going to get the care she
needs.
"That wasn't the case at all."
No fetal heartbeat
According to an emergency room report written by Dr. Anthony
Sarkisian, Cashman managed Dunn's care until she was handed over to
Dr. Yogi Seghal, who then handed her over to Sarkisian at 1 a.m.
At that time, Dunn was described as stable with normal blood pressure.
According to Sarkisian's report, Seghal had reported Dunn was
assessed by labour and delivery, which felt her symptoms were not
related to her pregnancy so directed her to the ER.
Dunn insists she wasn't seen in labour and delivery.
Just before 6 a m., Sarkisian wrote, it was brought to his attention
for the first time that Dunn had elevated blood pressure.
He reviewed her vitals and labs and realized she had consistently had
high blood pressure since presenting to the ER.
Aimee Dunn and Mitchell Waite after their March 5 baby
shower. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
"It was clear to me at that time that the patient was suffering from
preeclampsia," he wrote.
He also noted that attempts were made to reach Dr. Sheri-Lee Samson,
the obstetrician on call, but she and another doctor had been in the
operating rooms, performing emergency caesarean sections.
He noted that Dunn was in diabetic ketoacidosis.
Soon thereafter, she had a seizure and was rushed to acute care for
resuscitation.
When "obstetrics" saw Dunn at 6:30 a.m. on March 23, no fetal
heartbeat could be identified, the autopsy report said.
'Doesn't sound good'
Waite, a mechanic, said he was getting ready for work when he got the
call to come back to the hospital.
"They said I had to go to L and D [labour and delivery] right away,
and I was like, OK, this doesn't sound good," said Waite.
"So I'm in L and D and they're explaining what's going on, and they
told me about the seizures. They weren't upfront about Reia dying.
"They're like, 'It's possible she may have passed away.' So I was left
there, not quite understanding the whole concept."
Dr. Erica Schollenberg, with the department of pathology at the IWK
Hospital in Halifax, wrote in her autopsy report that the fetus was
anatomically normal and likely died in the overnight hours.
"Specific mechanism of fetal demise in maternal eclampsia is not well
understood but is likely asphyxial due to acute insufficiency of
vascular supply from the uterus to the placenta," she wrote.
By the time Dunn had her seizure, Schollenberg said, she had
laboratory features of both eclampsia and diabetic ketoacidosis.
Hospital's apology
Dunn said it took her a while to find the strength to ask for her
medical records.
When she got them, she felt sick all over again.
She wrote a detailed complaint describing what happened to Horizon
patient representative Gillian Gillies, who set a meeting for May 31.
Also present were Nicole Tupper, the hospital's executive director,
Dr. Erica Frecker, head of obstetrics, and Dr. Krishna Pulchan, head
of emergency medicine.
"They basically apologized for what happened," Waite said.
Dunn said she was touched by Pulchan's kindness.
"He was a really quiet man ,and when he ended up having his turn, he
spoke very softly," she recalled.
Dunn and Waite decorated a child's room in whites and pinks ahead of
Dunn’s due date of April 27. (Submitted by Aimee Dunn)
She said Pulchan offered his deepest condolences and told her tears
had come to his eyes when he read the complaint.
"He couldn't believe how out of all that happened that night, if one
person would have given any type of compassion that this result could
have possibly been changed," Dunn said.
"Yeah that was the problem," Waite said. "Nobody really cared enough
that night."
Neither Dunn nor Waite took notes of what was said in the meeting.
They said they were told there were not enough emergency specialists
to staff the ER, so family doctors were filling the gap.
They also said the hospital was working on plans to add critical
triage care to the labour and delivery unit. The emergency department
would be making changes to better monitor patients in the ER waiting
room.
Horizon's statement
CBC News requested interviews with any of the physicians who were
present at the May 31 meeting and a copy of any action plan that
resulted from the review.
No interviews or details were provided.
Instead, Horizon forwarded a written statement from Margaret Melanson,
the interim president and CEO.
"Horizon has a thorough quality review process in place which ensures
concerns expressed by a patient about the care they receive in our
facilities are followed up on. Results — as well as any
recommendations or mitigating actions — that may come from the review
are shared openly and transparently with the patient and their loved
ones," wrote Melanson.
Complaint filed with college
Dunn said she filed a complaint with the College of Physicians and
Surgeons of New Brunswick. The college did confirm it's reviewing her
complaint filed against Dr. Stephen Cashman of Vancouver.
Outgoing president Dr. Ed Schollenberg said Cashman will be given an
opportunity to respond before the college decides next steps.
The college could decide to conduct a disciplinary hearing.
Schollenberg said it all takes time and he wondered if this case would
end up under the scrutiny of a coroner's inquest.
"I would think this would be eligible," he said.
Dunn and Waite are still grieving the loss of their first child.
The hospital let Dunn hold Reia for a while. She was also given a
plaster cast of Reia's tiny feet and hands and a handprint.
Dunn said what she really wants, since she'll never get her baby back,
is to have the hospital follow through on what it promised.
Another death in ER
On July 12, a man described as a senior sitting in a wheelchair died
alone while waiting to be seen in the Chalmers ER.
Dunn was shocked. She'd been told staff would get "compassion
training" and improvements were already in the works.
"They said they had a new plan to make sure that patients in the
waiting room would be seen by someone and would get some kind of
treatment while they were waiting. Even if it's just Gravol for
nausea."
She doesn't want to hear about people not getting proper care in the
emergency room.
"At this point we're determined to keep fighting for change," Dunn said.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Rachel Cave
Rachel Cave is a CBC reporter based in Saint John, New Brunswick.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
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Ousted Horizon CEO pushed for COVID 'red phase' in hospitals
‘Seventh COVID wave is amongst us,’ Dornan said in email days before firing
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 04, 2022 7:00 AM AT
Dr. John Dornan, former president and CEO, Horizon Health Network
(Horizon Health Network)
The former CEO of Horizon Health wanted to move the province's
hospitals back to the "red phase" of COVID-19 measures just days
before he was fired from the job.
Dr. John Dornan said in an email on July 11 that "a seventh COVID wave
is amongst us," with hospitalizations and staff outbreaks increasing.
A Horizon infectious disease and infection protection control
committee was "recommending moving to Hospital Red phase next week if
numbers continue to deteriorate," Dornan wrote in the email obtained
by CBC News.
Dornan wrote that officials "could make that call collectively on
Monday or Tuesday next week," referring to July 18 and 19.
The red phase move never happened, even though the numbers did
continue to deteriorate.
The following Tuesday, the two health authorities reported an increase
in weekly COVID-19 admissions, active hospitalizations, hospital
outbreaks and staff infections between July 10-16.
Dornan was fired July 15.
A major element of red phase protocols would be a ban on routine
visitors seeing patients in hospitals.
In his email, the then-CEO said moving to the red phase was
"contingent" on Vitalité and Public Health agreeing to it.
But Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Jennifer Russell said
Wednesday she had no insight into why there was no move to red.
"I don't want to speak for the RHAs. They are the decision-makers in
this case, so they're the authority on what happens in their own
operations," she said.
Dornan said in the July 11 email it was "probable" Horizon would
communicate the possibility of a move to the red phase "publicly this
week as a heads up. It is good to be transparent."
That never happened.
At the time of Dornan's firing, Premier Blaine Higgs said a change in
leadership was needed to break a "bureaucratic stalemate" in the
health system and push forward reforms to address long wait lists and
clogged emergency departments.
Higgs made the changes after the death of a patient who was waiting
for care in the emergency department at the Dr. Everett Chalmers
Regional Hospital in Fredericton.
Dr. John Dornan was fired from his position as CEO of Horizon
Health. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Vitalité vice-president of medical services Natalie Banville replied
to Dornan's July 11 email that she had spoken to CEO France
Desrosiers, and officials at the health authority wanted to "analyze
the situation more closely."
She said cases were increasing but only two of Vitalité's 17
admissions were "COVID related."
"We need to look more closely at the epidemiology and zone situation
before moving to red phase," Banville wrote, saying Vitalité's
leadership would meet July 12 and respond with a recommendation.
Dornan thanked her and said Horizon would "strive to be on the same
page." It's not clear what Vitalité ended up recommending the next day
or why Dornan's replacement, interim CEO Margaret Melanson, didn't
follow through with his plan.
Unlike Dornan, Desrosiers remains in her position as CEO of Vitalité.
Dornan turned down an interview request from CBC News about his email.
"I have no comments," he said Wednesday.
In a statement to CBC News, Melanson said Horizon has "gained more
knowledge of the virus" during the pandemic and can now adopt "more
targeted and flexible" measures while maintaining important services
and allowing visitors.
The statement did not address why Dornan felt differently and favoured
a full move to red phase less than four weeks ago.
Three days after his email, and one day before his firing as CEO,
Dornan encouraged Horizon staff in an internal memo to "consider
showing an example" by masking in indoor public spaces due to
"escalating" COVID-19 transmission.
A spokesperson for the Department of Health said on July 18 Dornan's
firing was "not related" to that memo.
In staff memo day before he was fired, Horizon CEO urged community
masking against COVID
Horizon and Vitalité moved to the red phase Dec. 31 during a surge of
Omicron cases. They returned to the orange phase on June 20.
Dornan's July 11 email referred to a "seventh wave" arriving, even
though the province's public health officials have been reluctant to
use the term.
Russell told Brunswick News July 12 she might not define future
increases in cases as waves.
"I don't want to call it a wave in a sense that everybody defines that
differently. I'm saying it's an increased number of cases," she told
the newspapers. "Whether it's a wave or not a wave, we're seeing an
increased activity level in COVID cases."
Between July 10 and 16, the same week Dornan wrote the email and was
fired, 30 people were newly admitted to hospitals because of COVID-19,
up from 15 the previous week.
That number jumped again to 40 people between July 17 and 23.
The two health authorities had 209 staff out sick between July 10 and
16. That increased to 229 the week of July 17-23.
As of July 16, Horizon and Vitalité had 84 active hospitalized
COVID-19 patients. It increased to 90 a week later.
The number of weekly new cases dropped last week for the first time in
weeks. Those numbers tracked infections from July 17-23 and officials
said that could indicate that hospitalisation numbers, which lag
behind cases by a week or two, would soon peak and start to come down
as well.
In new numbers released Wednesday for July 24-30, the number of weekly
new cases dropped again and the number of hospital admissions and
active hospitalizations for COVID-19 decreased slightly.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
With files from Mia Urquhart
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
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Fred Brewer
So if Higgs fired Dr. Dornan who had only been CEO for less than 4
months, will he also fire his Trustees that he put in place to run the
health boards in 4 months time if they have not fixed the ER problems?
Michael Cain
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Higgs is running the joint now; the trustees
are just for show
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Michael Cain: IMHO Higgs should be smoking a joint not running one.
Donald LeBlanc
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Those two Trustees have already been working
almost a year, supposedly implementing a Health Plan. How well has
that gone, yet now they're replacing two Boards, many of whom were
duly elected. Nonsensical. And how did the CEO of Vitality survive the
purge after big problems in their ERs, loosing four Oncologists and
having been there about two years?
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:09:02 -0300
Subject: RE CBC's latest spin about why we should pity the Poor
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Higgy et al continue to deny my right to Free Health Care
To: David.Zaslowsky@bakermckenzie.
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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:25:37 +0000
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Newcomers waiting up to 9 months for N.B. medicare card
N.B. Multicultural Council president Moncef Lakouas said government
needs to make sure it has enough resources
Jordan Gill · CBC News · Posted: Aug 04, 2022 3:16 PM AT
Newcomers moving to New Brunswick from outside Canada are eligible
for Medicare on Day 1 of their arrival according to the province, as
long as they meet the eligibility requirements. (Shutterstock)
While wait times for medical treatments are increasing for many New
Brunswickers, some newcomers are struggling to even get a medicare
card.
New Brunswick Multicultural Council president Moncef Lakouas says he's
hearing about cases where newcomers are waiting up to nine months to
get one — and said it's having a snowball effect.
"If they're sick, they can't access work, and if they can't access
work, they cannot afford to pay rent and they can't provide for their
families, which is very, very dangerous and very serious," he said.
Looking to province
Newcomers moving to New Brunswick from outside Canada are eligible for
medicare on Day 1 of their arrival, according to the province, as long
as they "meet the eligibility requirements and are deemed … to have
established a permanent residence in New Brunswick."
In a statement to CBC News, the province said the medicare team is
currently hiring more staff to reduce waits times.
The province said it currently takes about 15 weeks to process an
application, but those waiting for a medicare card should not avoid or
delay medical care.
"Individuals awaiting a medicare card should know that if they are
approved the effective date for the card can be backdated to their
arrival in New Brunswick or the effective date of their valid
Immigration, Refugee Citizenship Canada status in Canada document,
whichever is latest," said Michaela Power, a spokesperson for the
Department of Health.
The province said there is a process for those who require immediate
medical attention and do not yet have a physical medicare card.
"These cases are identified, and their files are subsequently
prioritized for processing," she said.
Lakouas says if the province wants to attract more newcomers, they
need to make sure they have access to health care.
New Brunswick Multicultural Council president Moncef Lakouas said he’s
hearing about cases where newcomers are waiting up to nine months to
get a medicare card. (CBC/Radio-Canada)
He says the system set up for dealing with requests in the past
doesn't fit today's need — or numbers.
"What we used to welcome back then in terms of the number of
immigrants, which [was] a couple thousand a year, is not the case
anymore," said Lakouas.
"We're welcoming more than 6,000 immigrants a year. We have the
intention to increase that amount to 8,000 to 10,000 immigrants a
year. We need to make sure that they're provided with their medicare
and medical attention as soon as possible."
Problems and solutions
Lakouas says there's no financial help for newcomers without a
medicare card, so many of them have to pay out of pocket for
treatment.
He says this can be difficult for people who just moved to Canada.
"Just getting access to … emergency rooms just for consultation could
cost a little fortune for someone who just arrived here, who doesn't
need to disperse this money for something that they're supposed to get
for free," said Lakouas.
Lakouas said some newcomers have had to pay out of pocket for
treatment, which is expensive. (Zoom)
Lakouas says they need a solution.
"It could be a process as simple as just getting access to your social
insurance numbers, you get that number right away," said Lakouas.
"When immigrants are coming to the province, they could get that
number right away, which allows them to get the medical attention that
they need."
With files from Information Morning Summer Edition
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 23:46:54 -0300
Subject: Fwd: CBC's latest spin and malicious control of the narative
on "New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity" and "Immigrants left in
limbo as permit processing takes months" and "COVID-19"
To: David.Zaslowsky@bakermckenzie.
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"Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months" and
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks everybody in CBC knows that Tammy Scott-Wallace the minister
responsible for women's equality should also review the emails she
requested of me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blog
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Care workers suffer pay gap of up to $10 an hour, says coalition
New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equity says workers in women dominated
industry paid less than they should be
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 2:43 PM AT
23 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
David Amos
"In a statement to CBC News Tammy Scott-Wallace, the minister
responsible for women's equality, said she appreciates the work that
has gone into the report and will review it."
Methinks Scott-Wallace should also review the emails she requested of
me 5 years before she was elected Nesy Pas?
David Amos
If anyone bothered to follow the crumbs offered within this article a
course Political Science is not required to understand that everything
political is always about the money and that governments always use
our taxpayer funds to court support for one political party or the
other for their benefit not ours. Methinks many ladies would agree
that making things a gender issue is just plain dumb N'esy Pas?
Group gets $335,000 federal grant to study pay for caregivers
Ottawa gives New Brunswick Coalition for Pay Equality money to study
pay inequity and educate workers
Tori Weldon · CBC News · Posted: Nov 13, 2018 5:52 PM AT
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
https://twitter.com/DavidRayA
David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bullshit about me
perhaps Higgy et al should explain real slow my status as an American
resident to Lou their evil and very mindless spin doctor N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blo
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Immigrants left in limbo as permit processing takes months
Lauren Bird · CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 7:00 AM AT
18 Comments
David Amos
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Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant bs about me perhaps
Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor little Lou real slow
my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
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Methinks whereas I am a Canadian Citizen born and raised who ran for
public office 7 times thus far and even sued the Queen while Higgy et
al keeps a "Stay" on my right to have Medicare card Alex LeBlanc
should mention my name to somebody ASAP N'esy Pas?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @David Amos: You claimed you were a dual citizen . Did trump
revoke your Obamacare ?
David Amos
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Reply to @Lou Bell: Everybody knows I am no such thing
Lauren Fisher
@Jack Rodnies-Or how about you leave and make room for them who are
clearly better people.
Jack Rodnies
Reply to @Lauren Fisher: how about no i was born here and have no
doctor or heathcare mysrlf
David Amos
Reply to @Jack Rodnies: At least you have a medicare card
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @alllibertynews and 49 others
Methinks there would be very different twist on things today if a few
members of Higgy's Police State had won some seats in up in the
Campbellton area N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blog
#cdnpoli #nbpoli
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
N.B. COVID-19 roundup: 4 new cases, outbreak at special care home in Balmoral
New isolation rules for travelling workers
CBC News · Posted: Oct 29, 2020 1:15 PM AT
203 Comments
Commenting is now closed for this story.
PHIL INNIS
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The only isolation should be for people who are worried about getting
it. 99% survival rate
BuT WhAt aBoUt YoUr GrAnDpArEnts ?.............they had a good run.
Stay inside or die from fear
Nicholas Rioux
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Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Did you know that 20% of seniors live in
households containing non seniors? And that 25% of households have
someone with a disability? Granted not all disabilities will mean
someone at risk but then none of this includes people with chronic
conditions that ARE at risk but don't count as disabled.
So that's very likely half or more households containing elderly and
other at risk people with those of little risk.
Can you tell us how you would isolate all those folk who are at risk
but sharing the same homes as the others?
David Amos
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Reply to @PHIL INNIS: I would leave it up for the old folks such I to
decide whether they wish to live in fear or not
PHIL INNIS
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Reply to @Nicholas Rioux: I wouldn't isolate them at all and have a
family discussion about the pitfalls of life. Instead of THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE being out of work and having children starve, we use logic and
let nature run its course. Its crass I know but its more than fair.
PHIL INNIS
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Reply to @David Amos: exactly
Les Cooper
So is this proof that masks are not working?
I dont know why province doesnt set up Covid testing at the airports .
Would save a lot of covid issues. Make it mandatory to leave airport
when arriving
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Methinks a virus doesn't follow Higgy's orders
the passenger may leave as ordered however the pesky little thing may
stay if it wishes N'esy Pas?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Les Cooper: they aren’t sick when they are flying in. Just
have the virus in the easy bake oven. That is why the spread is
happening. It gets shedding days later, and then they say, oh, I guess
I brought the virus back with me from my travels.
Mary Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: That's why we need multiple tests - along with
isolation - so that cases can be identified asap so contact tracing
can jump ahead and we can ensure the virus is contained.
People are traveling among the Atlantic Bubble on planes with people
who are going to quarantine once they land. This is a big risk. If you
fly, it should be mandatory for testing to occur multiple times to
catch cases asap. Maybe this would be a good use for the rapid
testing, for those who are traveling.
Testing should not release you from work-isolating or from quarantine
too early - because that isn't the most important thing - it should be
used to identify cases sooner so contact tracing can happen in a
timely manner to get ahead of the virus to break the chains. The
sooner this can happen, the smaller the cluster, the less likely it
will spread via community transmission. If you can link all cases to
travel, we all are better off. Once you can't track the source of
infection, it does not bode well and you cannot predict where the
virus is heading and you're left fighting blind, with the only option
to assume the entire community has it - because they could - and we
all have to be still. It's better to be proactive, than reactive.
If you have multiple tests within x amount of days, it could be shown
that most cases are identifiable within 10 days, rather than the full
14 days it could take for symptoms to show. It's hard to say. This
article is really good and explains how doing anything for these
exemptions would be infinitely better than what we were doing. There's
still risk there, but it's much, much better than what we were doing,
which was simply not enough.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Les Cooper
Reply to @Bill Henry: so we get tested right away anyway
Brian Robertson
Campbelltown, Campbelltown. Why is it always around Campbelltown?
Oh yes.
That's where they opened the bubble to a part of Quebec; an area over
which we had NO control.
Who thought that was a good idea?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Brian Robertson: It's always around Campbellton because
that''s the zone that's had the most cases and the most death -
despite not having anywhere near as many residents as some other
zones. Now as to why that would be, that's still an open question. The
bubble with Avignon is certainly one of the possibilities. But the
bubble also included Zone 4 (Edmundston) and Temiscouata. So why
didn't the bubble cause a similar rise in cases in Zone 4?
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Why zone 5 and not zone 4? The best theory
is because Campbellton sits 40 minutes away from Carleton QC. Carleton
is the Gateway to the Gaspe and is a favorite vacation spot for Quebec
City, Montreal and the Eastern Townships. With travel restrictions
this summer and fall, Carleton was overflowing with Quebec Tourists.
Carleton is also frequented by NB residents and was open for day
passes all summer. When this is all over you should really visit the
area. Great beaches with friendly bilingual service.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Brian Robertson: C-a-m-p-b-e-l-l-T-O-N.
Bob Smith
Reply to @Luke Caissy: It's also an area where government rules and
regulations are given lip service, at best, by many residents.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Luke Caissy: That makes more sense than any other theory
I've heard to date. Any skiing tourism, or can we expect a drop in
tourists come the winter?
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Luke Caissy: if one likes rocky beaches vs the nice sand
beaches of southern NB or PE. But there is 'nude' bathing at Carleton
not far from Bleu Heron restaurant.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bob Smith: Is that true of the Campbellton area more so than
the Edmundston area?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Well, that would certainly be a draw for some!
David Amos
Reply to @Wayne Wright: Cry me a river The folks up in Campbellton
have done nothing wrong at all. Methinks there would be very different
twist on things today if a few members of Higgy's Police State had won
some seats in the region recently N'esy Pas?
Bob Smith
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Campbellton area. Terms like "squatters",
"bootleggers" and other terms are still heard in areas like
Robinsonville and such.
Luke Caissy
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Snowmobiling is huge on the Gaspe, but the
main draw for Carleton is the water.
SarahRose Werner
"they will be able to access: necessities of life and supporting
services, health care, goods and services required for work, banking
and financial services, transportation, child care, animal care, and
funeral or visitation services for members of their immediate family."
- Maybe if the government had listed what people *can't* access during
modified self-isolation, it might be a shorter list?
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: it’s a global pandemic. New Brunswick has
done remarkably well. Hang in there girl a few more months.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Agreed that NB has done remarkably
well. Let's keep doing well! :-) I think it's going to be more than a
*few* more months, however. I'd love to be wrong.
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: You will be wrong - we’re at peak and
numbers will start to decline as the death rate has already done so.
You’re okay Sarah!
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: We might be at the peak of the second
wave. But until we have vaccines and/or treatments that are safe,
effective and widely available, there's nothing to stop us from having
successive waves. Pragmatism has always stood me in good stead. :-)
David Amos
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Yea Right
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: Who would ever take a vaccine for a virus
which is clearly not that contagious, less than 0.6% across Canada
have tested positive, nor deadly; = 3.5% of all deaths in 2019. For
this, we destroy peoples lives for generations to come.
Donald Gallant
Perhaps not a good idea to hire across zones might be a thought.
Les Cooper
Reply to @Donald Gallant: there are doctors at the Fredericton
Hospital that commute back and forth from Montreal etc. Will they be
quarantined??
David Amos
Reply to @Les Cooper: Good question
Fred Dee
Reply to @Les Cooper: who??
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Dee: several. No names.
They are bilingual and get paid ton to rent in Freddy. 3 in my neighborhood.
Bill Henry
What does it mean when you have a blue circle by your post.
PHIL INNIS
Reply to @Bill Henry: bill gates is going to give you covid
David Amos
Reply to @PHIL INNIS: Oh My My
Dave Cudmore
Reply to @Bill Henry:
You're in danger of becoming a conservative.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Dave Cudmore: ROTFL
Roy Kirk
Do the new rules apply to people travelling on charter/private
aircraft. If so, how are they keeping track?
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk Go figure
Bill Henry
Geez Lou, you’re posts were the only sensible ones on here. Now you
sunk down to the rest of us
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks folks must make allowances for
conservative spin doctors not playing with a full deck However they
really should mind their mouth and quit putting their foot in it after
stepping in their own BS or they may wind up awful ill and not from a
pesky virus N'esy Pas?
Marie Buckley
Time to get our " Guy Lafleurs " up North under control.o
David Amos
Reply to @Marie Buckley: ???
Bill Henry
Will be like the us. People will start taking government to court to
prove they cannot restrict Canadians to their houses.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Yup
Bob Smith
Reply to @Bill Henry: A bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Bob Smith: I think Higgs is reaching outside his powers. May
take a judge to tell him
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Bill Henry: Every province across the country is restricting
people to their houses under specific circumstances and has been doing
so since March. It's not just Higgs.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Bill Henry: Who is going to take the time to do this? Be
dragged through the mud, chastized for challenging the government? I'd
have to stay in NB for longer than I care at this time, so it's not
me. I'd rather go home, get stuff sorted out and then leave a few days
later. forced confinement for just a few days every 4 months or so.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: So that makes it ok then, sure.
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Bill Henry
Terry Tibbs or Amos, do these changes help your cause?
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: What cause?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
What changes?
Nothing specific has been said and we both know what a politician's
promise is worth?
Bill Henry
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: ok, I’m reading the same. Nothing has changed.
What is a modified self isolation.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Bill Henry:
Exactly what is supposed to exist, but doesn't. It's a shell and pea game.
Randy McNally
Reply to @Bill Henry: I'm still trying to figure out what a modified bubble is
Bill Henry
So no change then. What a joke.
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Figured it out have ya?
Nick Papagorgio
It's absurd to have stricter isolation rules for people traveling
outside the bubble for work. Does the government not care about the
economy and mental health? These restrictions should only come into
effect when the hospitals are at capacity. People are losing their
jobs and businesses because of the restrictions put forth by the
government. A perfect example is WestJet cancelling all routes in and
out of NB - the bubble is to blame. That's only some of the jobs that
were lost, I can't imagine how many more there are.
Bill Henry
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: there is absolutely no change
David Amos
Reply to @Bill Henry: Methinks plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose
N'esy Pas?
Les Cooper
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Air Canada will be next. Then essential
workers will be unemployed and collecting EI cheques from NB. Lol
Mary Smith
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: NS and PEI have similar policies in place
for weeks or months now. The idea is that the exemptions to the
quarantines are the weak links. If the virus is not here in the
Atlantic Bubble then that means that not all people coming in will
bring it in, but that it MUST be brought in from outside the Atlantic
Bubble.
It is better to be proactive in a pandemic than reactive. It is better
for work, the economy, hospitals, mental health, etc if we focus on
the weak links ..
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: "...come into affect when hospitals are at
capacity..." A large reason for the the plan is to keep the system by
waiting until at capacity when it would be hell.
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: So Nick, where do you travel for work?
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Nick Papagorgio: Nope, they do not care about people, and
they do not understand the science either. But, the majority of the
voters wanted this, so there you are. I wonder how many of these
workers voted for Higgs?
Stephan Sommers
The two of them are going to restrict NB into poverty. But hey it’s in
the name of health right.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
How so?
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Oh, just let in the diseased is the best
policy ? Let's take a vote on who's got / made the best decisions ,
you , or the 2 you refer to ! You lose 100 times outta 100
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Where is westjet or via rail or tourism at
these days? What else is NB’ers willing to give up in the name of
health. By the time this is over the east coast will be in a real bad
spot. I hope I’m wrong because I love living here.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You don't know?
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: we could just test people two day prior and again
when they have been here for 24 h then all is well. Look at Bermuda,
they do that with all foreign workers and tourist. Nice try.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: Better than letting the positive tested in
. But you can get out if you'd prefer , nothings holding you from
leaving, other than if other places let you in . But go ahead , we
sure won't hold you back !
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Stephan Sommers:
Westjet and Via are just pandering for government money.
Tourism is, for the most part, poorly paid, benefit free, seasonal
work, no great loss. Hopefully those folks find real jobs and the
operators go under.
Clearly you didn't get the memo? Immigrants are going to save us.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: So you got nothing right on.
Stephan Sommers
Reply to @Lou Bell: I think my NB employees would prefer I keep
business here. That being said I also have a rental in ON and FL.
Wayne Wright
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: VIA Rail hasn't served anywhere east of
Quebec City are from beginning & won't for immediate future. For that
VIA I don't know why they put on service from C'ton to Halifax since
the bubble began.
Bruce Sanders
Reply to @Stephan Sommers: It's not even in the name of health now.
Jake Quinlan
"Because the vast majority of the province's cases originate outside
the Atlantic bubble"
No, in the Atlantic provinces, they all do, ultimately. We (the 4
provinces) "got to zero" multiple times. We never had "embers of
virus" burning all summer long like other provinces. Now (last several
weeks) of course, we can say not all cases originate from outside
bubble - we have community spread in places.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Jake Quinlan: If you want to get technical , ALL cases in
the world , except for the country of origin of the 1st cases are
travel related cases ! Does that make you feel better ?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks you must feel better now that you got
that off you chest N'esy Pas?
Jake Quinlan
Reply to @Lou Bell: Don't feel better (or worse) as I already had
figured out that all cases outside China are "travel related".
Ian Scott
Took a while but finally learned that having contract workers come and
go from hots zones not a good idea. Public has been saying it for 2
weeks. Yes we realize that they are needed , maybe.But not when going
into publics spaces with close contact quarters or LTC's. You could
see it coming. Now 6 dead and positives continue. Wonder about all the
airline folks that came in with Freddy and Moncton dudes.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Ian Scott:
When you make your living telling tall tales you tend to discount
everything anyone else says.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Oh So True
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Telling tales? You're the one that said they
had stopped making references to cases being travel related when all
that happened was having all that mass testing to deal with and the
next day's report they used travel related again.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
It isn't me "playing hard and fast" with the truth in this province.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Nor I
Nicholas Rioux
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: But you said something that was disproven the
very next day. Face it, you thought "conspiracy" when it was just a
delay.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Nicholas Rioux:
There are several active conspiracies around covid 19, you should
start paying attention, they can't even keep their stories straight
from day to day.
Lou Bell
Reply to @Ian Scott: Who brought in the cases and who did they infect
? Most of us don't know , but it appears you know it all ! Please
entice us with all you know , oh great one .
Lou Bell
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: You should know if anyone here would . But we
've come to recognize your frailties
Lou Bell
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Reply to @Terry Tibbs: There's one big conspiracy , and it's yours
Fred Sanford
It`ll be interesting to see how they make the "modified" isolation
work. NB has a lot of people that work in other provinces and return
home for 1 week on a 3 or 4 week rotation. Even if they restrict
themselves to their home (unlikely), they can still theoretically pass
any infection along to their family members who are not isolating.
Lots of holes here.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @Fred Sanford:
Of course, they are the same holes that have been there all along,
with the increase in cases elsewhere it is only natural that more is
being brought home for supper. They attempted to plug these holes by
making us all wear masks, which of course, was never going to fix
anything.
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I concur
Les Cooper
Reply to @Fred Sanford: I plan to do lots of overtime to avoid flying
to NB. If the out of province workers not flying to NB which are the
ones helping keep airports and flights going in NB then I can see
flights getting canceled.
Toby Tolly
jacques got the last question in on this video conference
totally unrelated but stirring the language issue
David Amos
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Welcome back to the circus
Lou Bell
Reply to @Toby Tolly: Jacques took the election loss really hard !
Like most Liberals , they've never recovered . They're still wired in
the " what about me " mode !
Joseph Carrier
Balmoral is 40 km from Campbellton BTW...
Dave Shimla
Reply to @Joseph Carrier: 24 kms according to googly earth
David Amos
Reply to @Dave Shimla: Survey says?
Dave Shimla
Reply to @David Amos: 27 if you take the long way lol
Ian Scott
Tough place to be. Dr. Russel handles things well. Her French
capabilities are also extraordinary. A premier in making.?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Ian Scott: But so much for simultaneous translation ,so half
of conference useless for most given questions.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Not sure she can or would want to deal with all
the game-playing that goes on in politics.
James Edward
Reply to @Ian Scott: I hope not.
Toby Tolly
Reply to @Ian Scott: the simultaneous translation is usually horrible
anyway as they miss the start of every language switch.
Michel Forgeron
Reply to @Ian Scott: Her French is quite good really, but I would not
call it extraordinary - she has to grasp for words sometimes.
certainly her effort is extraordinary.
Justin Gunther
Reply to @Toby Tolly: I really wish they'd release complete
transcripts in both languages in a simple plain text format so pains
like me can quickly search through it.
David Amos
Reply to @Michel Forgeron: Who cares?
James Edward
The Joose isn't worth the Squeeze
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: C'est vrai
James Edward
the game is still going? hmmm I don't know anyone who's died or been
hospitalized...I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it's not worth
shutting everything down for.
Renee Garry
Reply to @James Edward: well I'm not starving, neither is my familly.
Famine is a hoax
June Arnott
Reply to @James Edward: you are lucky then You think it’s a conspiracy?
June Arnott
Reply to @Renee Garry: good one, hope he gets it
James Edward
Reply to @Renee Garry: did i say famine? no. We are going thru a
global social and financial reset. It won't end well for most of us.
David Amos
Reply to @James Edward: True
Justin Gunther
Reply to @June Arnott: Hope he gets what exactly?
Fred Brewer
Reply to @June Arnott: "good one, hope he gets it"
Nope, he missed it completely.
James Edward
Reply to @June Arnott: good one, hope She gets it
Ian Scott
It would be nice to know if these outbreaks were related to work
travel. And if so how the policy is to be changed to prevent it
happening over and over. Then the rest of us could relax again instead
of wondering if the dude that flew in yesterday from TO is out
wandering about with covid (about to become active) with his kids and
out for Halloween.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Ian Scott: Agreed. We need fewer exemptions from the
self-isolation rule and better enforcement of that rule.
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
For starts: how about 100% fewer exemptions?
Otherwise, all we have to look forward to is another episode of
Groundhog Day "a la Higgs".
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @Ian Scott:
How many travellers from Quebec?
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: Quebec isn't the source of all COVID cases.
Dale MacFarlane
Reply to @SarahRose Werner:
Agreed but i have a relative in NB and he says there are quebec plates
everywhere....me, being in ontario we have spiked in cases.
SarahRose Werner
Reply to @Dale MacFarlane: It depends on what part of NB you're in.
I'm in southwestern NB and no, we don't have Quebec plates everywhere.
Up north, where people commute back and forth daily over the Quebec/NB
border to do essential work? Yes, there's almost certainly more Quebec
plates. That said, according the grapevine the recent outbreak in the
Moncton health zone (#1) was caused by someone visiting from Ontario
who failed to self-isolate as required. Also, we have two health zones
(#4 and #5) that border Quebec. Zone 4's had very few cases, Zone 5's
had more than any other zone. So it's not as simple as Quebec border =
lots of cases, because that's just not true. Some people would like it
to be that simple, but it's not.
Dave Shimla
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: southeastern NB/Dieppe is full of quebec
plates, and most are not rentals, unless rental companies started
pimping up their cars
Amajor Hall
Reply to @SarahRose Werner: It essentially doesn't matter, there are
NOT a lot of cases anyways no matter travel or otherwise...and they
are decreasing as we speak...15 new cases in the last week, but 65
recoveries in the same period...
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I am fond of Groundhog Days
Dan Lee
Reply to @David Amos:
Somehow it doesnt surprise me............
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: Methinks the Irving Clan would love to know
that during Groundhog Day Gale in 1976 my number man and I were
betting on which letter of the huge Irving sign across the road from
my bike shop was gonna come down next Most Maritimers in my neck of
the woods would agree that was quite a storm N'esy Pas?
Terry Tibbs
Reply to @David Amos:
This Groundhog day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
David Amos
Reply to @Terry Tibbs: I know what you implied but thats Yankee
fiction what i said really happened in the Maritimes
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos:I recall that It warmed up to around 65 degrees F
in the afternoon, the sun was melting the snow in the fields, water
was running everywhere,. Then it blew in a rain on a warm south
westerly wind that quickly shifted to a brisk north wind as the rain
switched to snow. The wind continued to blow gusting over 70 mph
through the night, as Atlantic Canada and Northern New England plunged
into a deep freeze of minus 25 and change. By morning everything was
frozen solid and wind damage everywhere. I think it may ahve taken out
the pier at Old Orchard Beach in southern Maine.
Randy McNally
Reply to @David Amos: I remember it well.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
New Brunswick reports one new case of COVID-19
Potential public exposure at Moncton gym, people asked to self-monitor
CBC News · Posted: Oct 30, 2020 1:32 PM AT
46 Comments
David Amos
Content disabled
Methinks we are all waiting with bated breath for Al Clark and his
buddies little Lou, Tiny Tim Harvey Baby, Johnny "Never Been Good"
Jacobs and of course the all knowing shill Mr Oliver to make an
appearance and begin offering their two bits worth about their hero
Higgy's circus today N'esy Pas Mr Tibbs???
Ben Haroldson
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos:(He said something twice but it was gone by the
time I rebooted my computer)
Ray Oliver
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: cool nicknames. Did you put that together during
a group visit with the rest of your "friends" at the restigouche
hospital?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: Cool nicknames?? Yea right
Methinks turnabout is fair play hence you should enjoy a little Deja
Vu from earlier today N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @Bill Henry: No doubt your legal training at DRA Gandalf's
law school mentioned emergency powers???
Harvey York
Content disabled
Reply to @Ray Oliver: it's like a 6 year old unloved boy trapped in an
old man's body
Lou Bell
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
Diana Austin
Those loudly protesting against Covid restrictions and touting instead
letting the virus run rampant to achieve herd immunity overall in
societies have often taken their lead from Sweden’s relaxed approach
to Covid and their guiding epidemiologist, Dr Anders Tegnell. Of
course, as others have pointed out, Sweden has had a much higher death
rate than its Scandinavian neighbours, and recent economic reviews
have shown their economy has not fared much better, either. But the
latest comments by Dr Anders Tegnell in a recent interview with Die
Zeit, a German newspaper (also repeated in the London Times), suggest
that even he has been learning on the job, so to speak. He now says
that the pandemic is approaching a “critical juncture” in Sweden after
the number of daily cases rose by 70 per cent in a week. He does still
defend aspects of his early approach, but to the surprise of many, he
is also now recommending some “mini-lockdowns” in specific areas. Even
more surprisingly, Tegnell has now also said that it would be both
futile and immoral for a state to deliberately pursue herd immunity:
“Throughout history there has up to now been no infectious disease
whose transmission was fully halted by herd immunity without a
vaccine.” So it seems that doctors everywhere are still learning how
much is still left to learn about how this new virus operates and how
societies might best respond
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Reply to @Diana Austin: yawn
Lou Bell
Reply to @Emery Hyslop-Margison: Very informative Diana ! Of course
for the ignorant naysayers , not mentioning any names , this is the
last thing they wanr to hear . True , informative information by
health professionals debunking all the BS we see spread by the
uninformed who get their information from the false narratives of the
conspiracy theorists off social media !!!!!!!!!
Emery Hyslop-Margison
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: hard at it Lou? I guess you’re not dead yet?
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell: Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise !
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks whereas I am very tired of her constant
bs about me perhaps Higgy et al should explain to their spin doctor
little Lou real slow my status as an American resident N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Content disabled
Reply to @Lou Bell: Methinks I should remind the RCMP of this comment
of your pal's from yesterday N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Well well well! Surprise surprise surprise! I
was convinced that your short list of broken record responses were
produced by pressing a function key. Colour me flabbergasted, like a
chinese mill owner finding a shredded panhead at the bottom of the
boat ;-)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Holt's 'fresh' message woos Liberals, but is it a winning pitch?
Susan Holt in four-way race to take over as N.B.'s Liberal leader
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 03, 2022 6:00 AM AT
Susan Holt is one of four candidates running in the New Brunswick
Liberal Party's 2022 leadership race. (Jacques Poitras/ CBC)
New Brunswick Liberal leadership candidate Susan Holt has been
pitching herself as the "change" candidate in the party race that
draws to a conclusion this weekend.
But it won't be clear until Saturday's result how real — or ephemeral
— that support will be.
Holt is relentlessly promoting social media posts on Twitter by New
Brunswickers who describe her as a fresh face, different from
conventional politicians.
"I can't say I've even put much thought into why I have this feeling,
but she's giving me hope for politicians in general and for government
in the province," said Jamie Nason, a resident of Tracy, a rural
community outside Fredericton.
Nason is a self-described progressive voter, as is Douglas Mullin, a
longtime NDP candidate and volunteer who recently bought a Liberal
membership to vote for Holt.
"For the Liberal Party, what she's presenting is definitely fresh," he said.
J.P. Lewis, a political scientist at the University of New Brunswick
in Saint John, said the Holt groundswell on social media doesn't
necessarily reflect reality but "these are our best cues to what's
going on. … It can be the only information that we can clearly see."
J.P. Lewis, a political scientist at the University of New Brunswick
Saint John, said Holt's support on social media doesn't necessarily
reflect reality but could be 'our best cues to what's going on.'
(Graham Thompson/CBC)
'New' is a common theme
All four candidates in the leadership race are promoting themselves as
new in one way or another.
Former MP T.J. Harvey is posting messages of support on his Facebook
page from ordinary New Brunswickers. Liberal MLA Robert Gauvin's
history as a former Progressive Conservative underscores his own
unique form of newness.
Even former Liberal cabinet minister and MLA Donald Arseneault is
arguing he purposely built a campaign team made up of people from
outside the party's old guard.
But Arseneault is warning that the temptation to choose a brand-new
leader has caused the Liberals grief in the last two provincial
elections.
Holt is "definitely a strong candidate. She does have a lot of
qualities that would make her a great leader," Arseneault said.
But "we went with fresh faces in the past. The last two [leaders], we
went through fresh faces, and look where we are now."
Former premier Brian Gallant, left, and former Liberal leader Kevin
Vickers. (James West/The Canadian Press (left) and Mike Heenan/CBC
(right))
He was referring to former premier Brian Gallant, who failed to win a
second majority in 2018 and lost power, and to Kevin Vickers, a
political newcomer who failed to unseat the Progressive Conservatives
in 2020.
Nason couldn't identify a specific policy or issue that Holt has
raised that won her over.
"It's the fact that she's acknowledging that people have concerns at
all," she said.
"I can't even say that there's any specific issue that she's come out
on where I've said 'That thing really needs taking care of.' It's more
general than that — that she's talking about people at all. … It feels
different, at the very least."
Leap of faith
Mullin said he knows NDP-leaning voters have been persuaded to cast
strategic votes for Liberals in the past, only to be disappointed.
But he said he's known Holt for more than a decade, so he's taking a
leap of faith she'll live up to what she's promising.
"I believe what's she saying in the moment. So in the moment I'm
putting my trust in that."
We know she's definitely not the first politician to say they're going
to bring a fresh approach to politics
- J.P. Lewis
But the new interim leader of the New Brunswick NDP, Alex White, said
it's unlikely Holt would really break the mould.
"Regardless of the leadership of the Liberal Party … the policies have
very rarely changed or brought improvements to the lives of everyday
Canadians," White said.
Lewis called Holt's message "pretty abstract, and we know she's
definitely not the first politician to say they're going to bring a
fresh approach to politics."
Nason said she doesn't personally know people who are as excited as
she is by Holt, though she sees a lot of them online, especially on
Twitter.
"Maybe it's just because she's been smart enough to have a heavy
social media presence," Nason said.
"It's worked before. Social media stardom has taken politicians where
they wanted to go. Maybe that's all it is. But it feels different. …
It feels like she is what I want a politician to be."
Lewis said the wavelet of enthusiasm for Holt can't be ignored, even
if it may dissipate between now and the next election in 2024 — and
that's assuming Holt wins at all.
If Holt doesn't win, it's not clear the people she has attracted to
the party will want to stick around for a different leader. Mullin
said he hasn't decided what he'll do if that happens.
Arseneault said while "new blood" is important for a political party,
long-time party supporters can't be taken for granted.
"We can't just shove them aside," said the former cabinet minister,
who argues election campaigns are major efforts that are complicated
to organize. "It takes people with experience as well."
Holt has also been endorsed by a large number of old-guard Liberals,
including former cabinet ministers Aldéa Landry, Bernard Thériault,
Bernard Richard, Roly MacIntyre and Mary Schryer.
She also worked in former premier Brian Gallant's government.
Still, Lewis said the buzz about Holt from non-Liberals is a positive
sign for a party that hasn't enjoyed much good electoral news since
2014.
"The New Brunswick Liberal Party needs any excitement it can get," Lewis said.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices|
66 Comments
Simply Crazy
Marijuana, abortions, and renaming everything they can. Susan will
have NB looking like downtown Vancouver before we can blink. Meanwhile
most NBers just want someone to let us live our lives without too much
government taxing and spending and without completely changing our
province forever.
Bob Smith
So the Liberal back room powers want to anoint Holt as the next
leader. Given her history of advising Gallant during that tenure,
folks should know what they're getting if she gets to be premier.
Simply Crazy
Reply to @Bob Smith: His big economic plan for NB was marijuana!
That’s says it all!
Lorelei Stott
doesn't matter for me ... can you say EMA.... just for that I will
never vote liberal as long as I am breathing
Holt's 'fresh' message woos Liberals, but is it a winning pitch?
Susan Holt in four-way race to take over as N.B.'s Liberal leader
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Aug 03, 2022 6:00 AM AT
Susan Holt is one of four candidates running in the New Brunswick
Liberal Party's 2022 leadership race. (Jacques Poitras/ CBC)
New Brunswick Liberal leadership candidate Susan Holt has been
pitching herself as the "change" candidate in the party race that
draws to a conclusion this weekend.
But it won't be clear until Saturday's result how real — or ephemeral
— that support will be.
Holt is relentlessly promoting social media posts on Twitter by New
Brunswickers who describe her as a fresh face, different from
conventional politicians.
"I can't say I've even put much thought into why I have this feeling,
but she's giving me hope for politicians in general and for government
in the province," said Jamie Nason, a resident of Tracy, a rural
community outside Fredericton.
Nason is a self-described progressive voter, as is Douglas Mullin, a
longtime NDP candidate and volunteer who recently bought a Liberal
membership to vote for Holt.
"For the Liberal Party, what she's presenting is definitely fresh," he said.
J.P. Lewis, a political scientist at the University of New Brunswick
in Saint John, said the Holt groundswell on social media doesn't
necessarily reflect reality but "these are our best cues to what's
going on. … It can be the only information that we can clearly see."
J.P. Lewis, a political scientist at the University of New Brunswick
Saint John, said Holt's support on social media doesn't necessarily
reflect reality but could be 'our best cues to what's going on.'
(Graham Thompson/CBC)
'New' is a common theme
All four candidates in the leadership race are promoting themselves as
new in one way or another.
Former MP T.J. Harvey is posting messages of support on his Facebook
page from ordinary New Brunswickers. Liberal MLA Robert Gauvin's
history as a former Progressive Conservative underscores his own
unique form of newness.
Even former Liberal cabinet minister and MLA Donald Arseneault is
arguing he purposely built a campaign team made up of people from
outside the party's old guard.
But Arseneault is warning that the temptation to choose a brand-new
leader has caused the Liberals grief in the last two provincial
elections.
Holt is "definitely a strong candidate. She does have a lot of
qualities that would make her a great leader," Arseneault said.
But "we went with fresh faces in the past. The last two [leaders], we
went through fresh faces, and look where we are now."
Former premier Brian Gallant, left, and former Liberal leader Kevin
Vickers. (James West/The Canadian Press (left) and Mike Heenan/CBC
(right))
He was referring to former premier Brian Gallant, who failed to win a
second majority in 2018 and lost power, and to Kevin Vickers, a
political newcomer who failed to unseat the Progressive Conservatives
in 2020.
Nason couldn't identify a specific policy or issue that Holt has
raised that won her over.
"It's the fact that she's acknowledging that people have concerns at
all," she said.
"I can't even say that there's any specific issue that she's come out
on where I've said 'That thing really needs taking care of.' It's more
general than that — that she's talking about people at all. … It feels
different, at the very least."
Leap of faith
Mullin said he knows NDP-leaning voters have been persuaded to cast
strategic votes for Liberals in the past, only to be disappointed.
But he said he's known Holt for more than a decade, so he's taking a
leap of faith she'll live up to what she's promising.
"I believe what's she saying in the moment. So in the moment I'm
putting my trust in that."
We know she's definitely not the first politician to say they're going
to bring a fresh approach to politics
- J.P. Lewis
But the new interim leader of the New Brunswick NDP, Alex White, said
it's unlikely Holt would really break the mould.
"Regardless of the leadership of the Liberal Party … the policies have
very rarely changed or brought improvements to the lives of everyday
Canadians," White said.
Lewis called Holt's message "pretty abstract, and we know she's
definitely not the first politician to say they're going to bring a
fresh approach to politics."
Nason said she doesn't personally know people who are as excited as
she is by Holt, though she sees a lot of them online, especially on
Twitter.
"Maybe it's just because she's been smart enough to have a heavy
social media presence," Nason said.
"It's worked before. Social media stardom has taken politicians where
they wanted to go. Maybe that's all it is. But it feels different. …
It feels like she is what I want a politician to be."
Lewis said the wavelet of enthusiasm for Holt can't be ignored, even
if it may dissipate between now and the next election in 2024 — and
that's assuming Holt wins at all.
If Holt doesn't win, it's not clear the people she has attracted to
the party will want to stick around for a different leader. Mullin
said he hasn't decided what he'll do if that happens.
Arseneault said while "new blood" is important for a political party,
long-time party supporters can't be taken for granted.
"We can't just shove them aside," said the former cabinet minister,
who argues election campaigns are major efforts that are complicated
to organize. "It takes people with experience as well."
Holt has also been endorsed by a large number of old-guard Liberals,
including former cabinet ministers Aldéa Landry, Bernard Thériault,
Bernard Richard, Roly MacIntyre and Mary Schryer.
She also worked in former premier Brian Gallant's government.
Still, Lewis said the buzz about Holt from non-Liberals is a positive
sign for a party that hasn't enjoyed much good electoral news since
2014.
"The New Brunswick Liberal Party needs any excitement it can get," Lewis said.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Jacques Poitras
Provincial Affairs reporter
Jacques Poitras has been CBC's provincial affairs reporter in New
Brunswick since 2000. He grew up in Moncton and covered Parliament in
Ottawa for the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal. He has reported on
every New Brunswick election since 1995 and won awards from the Radio
Television Digital News Association, the National Newspaper Awards and
Amnesty International. He is also the author of five non-fiction books
about New Brunswick politics and history.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices|
66 Comments
Simply Crazy
Marijuana, abortions, and renaming everything they can. Susan will
have NB looking like downtown Vancouver before we can blink. Meanwhile
most NBers just want someone to let us live our lives without too much
government taxing and spending and without completely changing our
province forever.
Bob Smith
So the Liberal back room powers want to anoint Holt as the next
leader. Given her history of advising Gallant during that tenure,
folks should know what they're getting if she gets to be premier.
Simply Crazy
Reply to @Bob Smith: His big economic plan for NB was marijuana!
That’s says it all!
Lorelei Stott
doesn't matter for me ... can you say EMA.... just for that I will
never vote liberal as long as I am breathing
https://davidraymondamos3.blog
Sunday, 17 July 2022
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
"McAloon characterized Higgs's move as a centralization of health-care control.
"To me, and to the partially elected, local board I led, today's
announcement is a major step backward," he said.
"It represents the loss of community ownership and engagement and
clinical, leadership expertise.
"Centralizing control within the Premier's Office is not the answer.
Politics is what got us here and is not the solution."
McAloon said he had not heard from Higgs and only learned of his
decision moments before the news conference began.
"I join with all New Brunswickers in their feelings of shock and want
nothing more than to see our system stabilized."
Johanne Lise Landry, spokesperson for Vitalité Health Network, said in
an email that the health network did not receive any correspondence
about its board being revoked.
There was also reaction from the medical community itself.
"Firing Dr. John Dornan would have to rank as one of the ill-advised,
mindless and ill-considered decisions I have ever heard," tweeted
cardiologist Dr. Robert Teskey. ?
"Johanne Lise Landry, spokesperson for Vitalité Health Network,
confirmed in an email Friday that the health network did not receive
any correspondence about its board being revoked.
McGraw said she would like to know what the board did that didn't meet
the premier's standard.
She said Vitalité should have self-governance of its health network.
She said removing the board to replace it with a single appointed
trustee will diminish the influence the community has on Vitalité
Health Network."
johannelise.landry@ccnb.ca
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From: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 19:08:48 -0300
Subject: Attn Susan Holt I just called and left a voicemail after you
made another splash in CBC Now why not ask Higgy et al about my right
to Health Care???
To: info@susanholt.ca, hannah.rudderham@cbc.ca, susan@susanholt.ca,
"Robert. Jones" <Robert.Jones@cbc.ca>, info@donaldarseneault.ca,
info@tjharvey.ca, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, andre
<andre@jafaust.com>, andrew <andrew@frankmagazine.ca>
Cc: motomaniac333 <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, "blaine.higgs"
<blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>, briangallant10 <briangallant10@gmail.com>,
"bruce.fitch" <bruce.fitch@gnb.ca>, "robert.mckee"
<robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin" <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>,
"kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>, david.coon@gnb.ca,
"Roger.L.Melanson" <roger.l.melanson@gnb.ca>, "benoit.bourque"
<benoit.bourque@gnb.ca>, pm <pm@pm.gc.ca>, "Katie.Telford"
<Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, "Arseneau, Kevin (LEG)"
<kevin.a.arseneau@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan (LEG)" <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>
---------- Original message ----------
From: "Higgs, Premier Blaine (PO/CPM)" <Blaine.Higgs@gnb.ca>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 20:51:13 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. RE My right to Health Care I
got a call yesterday at about 4 PM from private number claiming to
speak for YOU True or False??
To: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.c
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Susan Holt emphasizes health care in Liberal leadership campaign
Susan Holt is the first woman to seek leadership of New Brunswick Liberal Party
Hannah Rudderham · CBC News · Posted: Aug 02, 2022 4:42 PM AT
Susan Holt, candidate for New Brunswick Liberal Party leadership, said
she’s not sure where she’d run if she became leader. (Joe
McDonald/CBC)
The first in a series of stories this week on the four New Brunswick
Liberal leadership candidates
Liberal leadership candidate Susan Holt says one way to attract and
hold onto doctors in New Brunswick would be to eliminate mandatory
hospital rounds.
Holt said the amount of time family doctors in the province must spend
at local hospitals takes them away from their practices.
She said this system is slowly being replaced with another model, in
which physicians known as hospitalists work solely in the hospital.
But Holt said she's spoken to new physicians who find the hospital
rounds that are still required are a deterrent.
Tech executive, former adviser to Brian Gallant running for
Liberal leadership
Kevin Vickers to step aside as Liberal leader
Holt has made health care a key part of her campaign for the
leadership, which the party will decide this coming Saturday.
She said recruitment of doctors and other health-care workers is only
part of the solution to the shortages in the New Brunswick system.
Medical professionals also need to be able to practise using all of
their skills, she said in an interview on Information Morning in the
Summer.
"It's not just a recruitment solution because if we're recruiting
people in, but they're exiting on the back end, we have to fix the
culture and the reasons why people are leaving the system," said Holt.
Advised Brian Gallant
Holt was a top adviser to Brian Gallant, who was premier for four
years until Blaine Higgs and the Progressive Conservatives took power
in 2018.
"I think I bring a fresh perspective and energy and a real focus on
transparency and accountability [and] that is what the people in New
Brunswick are saying that they want from government," she said.
But Holt said she doesn't think she would reverse Higgs's decision
last month to fire Horizon Health Network's CEO and dissolve both
health authority boards.
She said she'll be watching the impact of those decisions over the
next few years.
Favours role for public
"I don't love our knee-jerk reaction to just reverse what previous
parties or governments have done, so it's something I think that would
take careful thought," she said.
"But I do think having great leaders in the health-care system is
important. But I also think having the public's participation in those
elected roles on boards is important."
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
Systemic change, support required to revive N.B. health-care
system, says medical community
In addition to health care, another challenge "near and dear" to
Holt's heart is New Brunswick's carbon footprint.
She said the climate crisis has been looming, changing the world in the process.
But the government can do a few things to help, Holt said, such as
going green with its own operations, including transportation,
government buildings and procurement.
4 seeking top job
The other candidates in the leadership race are MP T.J. Harvey, former
MLA Donald Arseneault and current MLA Robert Gauvin.
Roger Melanson, MLA for Dieppe, has been serving as interim party
leader since shortly after the 2020 provincial election, which the
Liberals lost under the leadership of Kevin Vickers. Vickers resigned
on election night after the party won only 17 of 49 seats in the
legislature.
Holt is the first woman to run for the provincial Liberal leadership,
though Saint John Liberal MLA Shirley Dysart was interim leader of the
party in 1985.
Holt ran for the Liberals in Fredericton South in the 2018 election
but came second to Green Party Leader David Coon.
She said an ideal situation if she won the leadership race would be to
have a byelection and be elected to lead the party from a position in
the legislative assembly.
She said she's not sure yet where she'd run in 2024 if she became
leader, or whether she'd run for a seat if she didn't win.
Former MP seeks N.B. Liberal leadership
Holt said she's been drawn to politics for many years, so she doesn't
think that feeling will go away, but she also said the decision to run
for leadership was a big one for her family.
"I can't quite predict where the five of us will be in two years and
whether my husband will be on board for going through this again," she
said.
"I really believe that this is the time for a change in politics and
government. We need to do things differently at a personal level."
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Hannah Rudderham
Journalist
Hannah Rudderham is a journalist with CBC New Brunswick. She grew up
in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and moved to Fredericton to go to St.
Thomas University in 2018. She recently graduated with a bachelor of
arts in journalism. You can send story tips to
hannah.rudderham@cbc.ca.
With files from Information Morning in the Summer
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It seems to me that the squeaky wheel gets the grease EH Mr Jones?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
Family demands answers after Fredericton ER sends man home hours after
he broke neck
Motorcycle crash left John Barnet with broken neck vertebra, broken sternum
Aidan Cox · CBC News · Posted: Jul 29, 2022 4:09 PM AT
A man lies in a hospital bed with a neck brace.
John Barnet was told he broke the C7 vertebra in his neck and broke
his sternum in a motorcycle crash in Fredericton on Tuesday.
(Submitted by Taylor Grandy)
John Barnet received six hours of hospital care for a broken neck and
sternum before being told he had to leave.
Now his family is demanding answers as to why the 41-year-old man was
discharged from the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital in
Fredericton hours after crashing his motorcycle, and with little in
the way of followup care for injuries that could have long-term
effects.
"It's unacceptable," Taylor Grandy, his wife, said in an interview Friday.
"He should still be in the hospital. He really should be, you know, at
least for a week or more."
Barnet recently purchased a motorcycle and went out for a ride with a
friend on Tuesday afternoon, Grandy said.
Horizon review underway after patient dies in Fredericton ER waiting room
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
Shortly after crossing the Princess Margaret Bridge on Route 8, Grandy
said, her husband hit some gravel, lost control of his bike and hit
the highway median.
Paramedics took him to the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital
around 8 p.m., where he was treated for a broken C7 vertebra in his
neck, a broken sternum, a broken nose, a split tongue and broken
teeth.
Grandy said she rushed to the hospital fearing the worst.
A man and a woman sit next to each other.
Taylor Grandy has been taking care of her husband since he was
discharged from hospital in the early hours of Wednesday. (Submitted
by Taylor Grandy)
When she got there, a nurse warned her of the severity of Barnet's
injuries before wheeling him back into the emergency room on a
stretcher following his CT scan.
"He was in so much pain. So much pain. He said, 'Taylor, I think my
back's broken,' and it was just a mess."
Grandy said once the results of the CT scan confirmed the broken
vertebra in his neck, staff started giving her instructions for
maintaining the brace her husband had around his neck.
Then without explanation, they informed the couple Barnet would be
discharged from the hospital later that evening.
"They wanted to sit him up in the bed … to kind of get him up moving,
and they were like, 'You can go home tonight'.
"And even John couldn't believe it."
A family sit in their living room.
John Barnet and Taylor Grandy live in Fredericton with their five
children. He's pictured before the accident. (Submitted by Taylor
Grandy)
Grandy said she called Barnet's sister at around 1 a.m. to help get
him up and out of the hospital. After a 90-minute struggle to move him
without hurting him, they had him loaded into the family minivan with
their five children and were on their way back to their home in
Fredericton.
Staff sent Barnet home with a few Tylenol tablets, prescriptions for
naproxen and morphine, and a referral to a neurosurgeon in Saint John,
Grandy said.
It's a decision that, even two days later, still has her perplexed
considering the severity of his injuries.
"And the doctor did tell me that if he moves a certain way or if he
takes the [brace] off or anything like that, he could be paralyzed."
Grandy also said she's called the neurosurgeon Barnet was referred to
the day after, only to find out he's away from work for the next week
and a half.
In a statement to CBC News, Horizon Health Network said Barnet's
discharge wasn't related to bed availability or staff shortages.
"This patient was medically discharged from our ED after the physician
completed their assessment using clinical judgment and consulting with
peers," wrote Margaret Melanson, Horizon's interim president and CEO.
Both patient representative services and the hospital have been in
contact with the family about their concerns, Melanson said, and a
specialist is following up with the patient for further medical
assessments.
"Horizon apologizes for any part of the care experience that did not
meet their expectation," Melanson said. "We look forward to continuing
to provide care to this patient as they recover."
Grandy is the second person this month to publicly criticize the
Chalmers hospital.
John Staples said he witnessed an older man die while waiting to
receive care in the hospital's waiting room in the early morning hours
of July 12.
It prompted Horizon to launch a review into what happened, and later
prompted Premier Blaine Higgs to fire Horizon CEO John Dornan, and
replace the board of directors for both Horizon and Vitalité with
individual trustees.
Seeking action from premier
Aside from his wife, Barnet's parents are also demanding answers and
action in light of the decision to discharge him hours after arriving
at the hospital.
A man and a woman sit next to each other.
Dave and Nancy Barnet, parents of John Barnet, are calling on Premier
Blaine Higgs to look into why their son was discharged from hospital.
(Submitted by Dave Barnet)
"The action of the hospital leaves us with disgust and anger," Dave
and Nancy Barnet said in a letter they sent to Higgs on Thursday.
"Why was our son not kept for observation for at least 24 to 48 hours
after being told he could be paralyzed? Why was he sent home in his
condition after six hours?"
In an interview Friday, Dave Barnet said he hadn't heard back from
Higgs, adding he's not just looking for an explanation, but action to
improve the care offered at the hospital.
"I'm hoping to hear that some kind of statement or news comes out,
that they're going to find more money or allocate resources or
transfer money and get more nurses and or doctors in the [Chalmers] to
resolve this critical situation," Barnet said.
In an email statement to CBC News, Higgs said he has received the
Barnets' letter and will be contacting them to learn more about their
experience.
"It's not something I will comment further on in the media as I would
prefer to speak with them directly," he said.
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Jonathan Symthe
We were promised that health care would be universally accessible.
Apparently we were never promised that the care would be of good
quality.
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After more hospital complaints, Higgs gets involved in health-care
system — again
Nancy Barnet says Higgs, Horizon Health CEO both called after
complaints about son's treatment at hospital
Aidan Cox · CBC News · Posted: Aug 02, 2022 4:46 PM AT
A man lies in a hospital bed with a neck brace.
John Barnet broke the C7 vertebrae in his neck and broke his sternum
in a motorcycle crash in Fredericton on July 26. (Submitted by Taylor
Grandy)
For the second time in just over two weeks, New Brunswick Premier
Blaine Higgs has personally involved himself in a high-profile
incident in the province's health-care system — again after it was
made public in media reports.
Dave and Nancy Barnet had demanded answers last week about why their
son John was discharged from the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional
Hospital in Fredericton just hours after breaking his neck in a
motorcycle crash.
Following their public complaints, Nancy Barnet said the premier
called her and her husband at their home in Pictou, N.S.
She said Margaret Melanson, interim president and CEO of Horizon
Health Network, also called and arranged to have a doctor examine John
at home. He was later taken by ambulance to a hospital in Saint John.
John Barnet broke the C7 vertebra in his neck as well as his sternum,
but was sent home after six hours of care in Fredericton. His parents
wanted to know why he wasn't kept for at least 24 hours for
observation of injuries that could have left him paralyzed.
Nancy Barnet said Higgs called twice over the weekend — first on
Saturday and again on Sunday — and left voice messages, as she and her
husband weren't home to answer the phone.
Family demands answers after Fredericton ER sends man home hours
after he broke neck
A man and a woman sit next to each other.
Dave and Nancy Barnet, John's parents, received two calls from New
Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs after they sent him a letter asking him
to look into how their son was treated at the hospital in Fredericton.
(Submitted by Dave Barnet)
Not up to Higgs to run health authorities
The move comes after a July 15 news conference during which Higgs,
responding to the death of a man in the emergency department waiting
room of the same hospital, said it wasn't up to him to run the health
authorities but it was up to him "to ensure that the right people are
in the positions to do so."
That incident prompted Higgs to fire the former president and CEO of
Horizon Health and to replace its board of directors with a single
trustee. He also replaced the province's health minister.
Horizon Health didn't answer questions about whether Higgs played a
role in the followup care provided to Barnet.
In an emailed statement, Melanson said she felt it was important to
personally follow up with Barnet to determine how he and his family
were faring, and whether there was anything she could do to help.
Meanwhile, Nancy Barnet said they appreciate whatever the premier did.
"As a matter of fact, I'm planning to give [Higgs] a call myself today
to thank him," she said. "I do believe that without his support,
things may not have moved as quickly as they did."
Barnet declined to share what Higgs said in his voice messages.
John Barnet's parents received two missed phone calls from Higgs after
they wrote him a letter complaining about the treatment he received at
a Fredericton hospital. (Pat Richard/CBC)
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
She said her son has since been discharged from hospital in Saint John
and is back home in Fredericton — in pain, but recovering.
CBC News requested an interview with Higgs about his involvement in
the case and is waiting for a response.
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Mike May
Funny how they only care when it gives them negative press!
Sunday, 17 July 2022
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
"McAloon characterized Higgs's move as a centralization of health-care control.
"To me, and to the partially elected, local board I led, today's
announcement is a major step backward," he said.
"It represents the loss of community ownership and engagement and
clinical, leadership expertise.
"Centralizing control within the Premier's Office is not the answer.
Politics is what got us here and is not the solution."
McAloon said he had not heard from Higgs and only learned of his
decision moments before the news conference began.
"I join with all New Brunswickers in their feelings of shock and want
nothing more than to see our system stabilized."
Johanne Lise Landry, spokesperson for Vitalité Health Network, said in
an email that the health network did not receive any correspondence
about its board being revoked.
There was also reaction from the medical community itself.
"Firing Dr. John Dornan would have to rank as one of the ill-advised,
mindless and ill-considered decisions I have ever heard," tweeted
cardiologist Dr. Robert Teskey. ?
"Johanne Lise Landry, spokesperson for Vitalité Health Network,
confirmed in an email Friday that the health network did not receive
any correspondence about its board being revoked.
McGraw said she would like to know what the board did that didn't meet
the premier's standard.
She said Vitalité should have self-governance of its health network.
She said removing the board to replace it with a single appointed
trustee will diminish the influence the community has on Vitalité
Health Network."
johannelise.landry@ccnb.ca
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Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 19:08:48 -0300
Subject: Attn Susan Holt I just called and left a voicemail after you
made another splash in CBC Now why not ask Higgy et al about my right
to Health Care???
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 20:51:13 +0000
Subject: RE: Attn NORMAN J. BOSSÉ Q.C. RE My right to Health Care I
got a call yesterday at about 4 PM from private number claiming to
speak for YOU True or False??
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Susan Holt emphasizes health care in Liberal leadership campaign
Susan Holt is the first woman to seek leadership of New Brunswick Liberal Party
Hannah Rudderham · CBC News · Posted: Aug 02, 2022 4:42 PM AT
Susan Holt, candidate for New Brunswick Liberal Party leadership, said
she’s not sure where she’d run if she became leader. (Joe
McDonald/CBC)
The first in a series of stories this week on the four New Brunswick
Liberal leadership candidates
Liberal leadership candidate Susan Holt says one way to attract and
hold onto doctors in New Brunswick would be to eliminate mandatory
hospital rounds.
Holt said the amount of time family doctors in the province must spend
at local hospitals takes them away from their practices.
She said this system is slowly being replaced with another model, in
which physicians known as hospitalists work solely in the hospital.
But Holt said she's spoken to new physicians who find the hospital
rounds that are still required are a deterrent.
Tech executive, former adviser to Brian Gallant running for
Liberal leadership
Kevin Vickers to step aside as Liberal leader
Holt has made health care a key part of her campaign for the
leadership, which the party will decide this coming Saturday.
She said recruitment of doctors and other health-care workers is only
part of the solution to the shortages in the New Brunswick system.
Medical professionals also need to be able to practise using all of
their skills, she said in an interview on Information Morning in the
Summer.
"It's not just a recruitment solution because if we're recruiting
people in, but they're exiting on the back end, we have to fix the
culture and the reasons why people are leaving the system," said Holt.
Advised Brian Gallant
Holt was a top adviser to Brian Gallant, who was premier for four
years until Blaine Higgs and the Progressive Conservatives took power
in 2018.
"I think I bring a fresh perspective and energy and a real focus on
transparency and accountability [and] that is what the people in New
Brunswick are saying that they want from government," she said.
But Holt said she doesn't think she would reverse Higgs's decision
last month to fire Horizon Health Network's CEO and dissolve both
health authority boards.
She said she'll be watching the impact of those decisions over the
next few years.
Favours role for public
"I don't love our knee-jerk reaction to just reverse what previous
parties or governments have done, so it's something I think that would
take careful thought," she said.
"But I do think having great leaders in the health-care system is
important. But I also think having the public's participation in those
elected roles on boards is important."
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
Systemic change, support required to revive N.B. health-care
system, says medical community
In addition to health care, another challenge "near and dear" to
Holt's heart is New Brunswick's carbon footprint.
She said the climate crisis has been looming, changing the world in the process.
But the government can do a few things to help, Holt said, such as
going green with its own operations, including transportation,
government buildings and procurement.
4 seeking top job
The other candidates in the leadership race are MP T.J. Harvey, former
MLA Donald Arseneault and current MLA Robert Gauvin.
Roger Melanson, MLA for Dieppe, has been serving as interim party
leader since shortly after the 2020 provincial election, which the
Liberals lost under the leadership of Kevin Vickers. Vickers resigned
on election night after the party won only 17 of 49 seats in the
legislature.
Holt is the first woman to run for the provincial Liberal leadership,
though Saint John Liberal MLA Shirley Dysart was interim leader of the
party in 1985.
Holt ran for the Liberals in Fredericton South in the 2018 election
but came second to Green Party Leader David Coon.
She said an ideal situation if she won the leadership race would be to
have a byelection and be elected to lead the party from a position in
the legislative assembly.
She said she's not sure yet where she'd run in 2024 if she became
leader, or whether she'd run for a seat if she didn't win.
Former MP seeks N.B. Liberal leadership
Holt said she's been drawn to politics for many years, so she doesn't
think that feeling will go away, but she also said the decision to run
for leadership was a big one for her family.
"I can't quite predict where the five of us will be in two years and
whether my husband will be on board for going through this again," she
said.
"I really believe that this is the time for a change in politics and
government. We need to do things differently at a personal level."
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Hannah Rudderham
Journalist
Hannah Rudderham is a journalist with CBC New Brunswick. She grew up
in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and moved to Fredericton to go to St.
Thomas University in 2018. She recently graduated with a bachelor of
arts in journalism. You can send story tips to
hannah.rudderham@cbc.ca.
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It seems to me that the squeaky wheel gets the grease EH Mr Jones?
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Family demands answers after Fredericton ER sends man home hours after
he broke neck
Motorcycle crash left John Barnet with broken neck vertebra, broken sternum
Aidan Cox · CBC News · Posted: Jul 29, 2022 4:09 PM AT
A man lies in a hospital bed with a neck brace.
John Barnet was told he broke the C7 vertebra in his neck and broke
his sternum in a motorcycle crash in Fredericton on Tuesday.
(Submitted by Taylor Grandy)
John Barnet received six hours of hospital care for a broken neck and
sternum before being told he had to leave.
Now his family is demanding answers as to why the 41-year-old man was
discharged from the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital in
Fredericton hours after crashing his motorcycle, and with little in
the way of followup care for injuries that could have long-term
effects.
"It's unacceptable," Taylor Grandy, his wife, said in an interview Friday.
"He should still be in the hospital. He really should be, you know, at
least for a week or more."
Barnet recently purchased a motorcycle and went out for a ride with a
friend on Tuesday afternoon, Grandy said.
Horizon review underway after patient dies in Fredericton ER waiting room
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
Shortly after crossing the Princess Margaret Bridge on Route 8, Grandy
said, her husband hit some gravel, lost control of his bike and hit
the highway median.
Paramedics took him to the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional Hospital
around 8 p.m., where he was treated for a broken C7 vertebra in his
neck, a broken sternum, a broken nose, a split tongue and broken
teeth.
Grandy said she rushed to the hospital fearing the worst.
A man and a woman sit next to each other.
Taylor Grandy has been taking care of her husband since he was
discharged from hospital in the early hours of Wednesday. (Submitted
by Taylor Grandy)
When she got there, a nurse warned her of the severity of Barnet's
injuries before wheeling him back into the emergency room on a
stretcher following his CT scan.
"He was in so much pain. So much pain. He said, 'Taylor, I think my
back's broken,' and it was just a mess."
Grandy said once the results of the CT scan confirmed the broken
vertebra in his neck, staff started giving her instructions for
maintaining the brace her husband had around his neck.
Then without explanation, they informed the couple Barnet would be
discharged from the hospital later that evening.
"They wanted to sit him up in the bed … to kind of get him up moving,
and they were like, 'You can go home tonight'.
"And even John couldn't believe it."
A family sit in their living room.
John Barnet and Taylor Grandy live in Fredericton with their five
children. He's pictured before the accident. (Submitted by Taylor
Grandy)
Grandy said she called Barnet's sister at around 1 a.m. to help get
him up and out of the hospital. After a 90-minute struggle to move him
without hurting him, they had him loaded into the family minivan with
their five children and were on their way back to their home in
Fredericton.
Staff sent Barnet home with a few Tylenol tablets, prescriptions for
naproxen and morphine, and a referral to a neurosurgeon in Saint John,
Grandy said.
It's a decision that, even two days later, still has her perplexed
considering the severity of his injuries.
"And the doctor did tell me that if he moves a certain way or if he
takes the [brace] off or anything like that, he could be paralyzed."
Grandy also said she's called the neurosurgeon Barnet was referred to
the day after, only to find out he's away from work for the next week
and a half.
In a statement to CBC News, Horizon Health Network said Barnet's
discharge wasn't related to bed availability or staff shortages.
"This patient was medically discharged from our ED after the physician
completed their assessment using clinical judgment and consulting with
peers," wrote Margaret Melanson, Horizon's interim president and CEO.
Both patient representative services and the hospital have been in
contact with the family about their concerns, Melanson said, and a
specialist is following up with the patient for further medical
assessments.
"Horizon apologizes for any part of the care experience that did not
meet their expectation," Melanson said. "We look forward to continuing
to provide care to this patient as they recover."
Grandy is the second person this month to publicly criticize the
Chalmers hospital.
John Staples said he witnessed an older man die while waiting to
receive care in the hospital's waiting room in the early morning hours
of July 12.
It prompted Horizon to launch a review into what happened, and later
prompted Premier Blaine Higgs to fire Horizon CEO John Dornan, and
replace the board of directors for both Horizon and Vitalité with
individual trustees.
Seeking action from premier
Aside from his wife, Barnet's parents are also demanding answers and
action in light of the decision to discharge him hours after arriving
at the hospital.
A man and a woman sit next to each other.
Dave and Nancy Barnet, parents of John Barnet, are calling on Premier
Blaine Higgs to look into why their son was discharged from hospital.
(Submitted by Dave Barnet)
"The action of the hospital leaves us with disgust and anger," Dave
and Nancy Barnet said in a letter they sent to Higgs on Thursday.
"Why was our son not kept for observation for at least 24 to 48 hours
after being told he could be paralyzed? Why was he sent home in his
condition after six hours?"
In an interview Friday, Dave Barnet said he hadn't heard back from
Higgs, adding he's not just looking for an explanation, but action to
improve the care offered at the hospital.
"I'm hoping to hear that some kind of statement or news comes out,
that they're going to find more money or allocate resources or
transfer money and get more nurses and or doctors in the [Chalmers] to
resolve this critical situation," Barnet said.
In an email statement to CBC News, Higgs said he has received the
Barnets' letter and will be contacting them to learn more about their
experience.
"It's not something I will comment further on in the media as I would
prefer to speak with them directly," he said.
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Jonathan Symthe
We were promised that health care would be universally accessible.
Apparently we were never promised that the care would be of good
quality.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada
After more hospital complaints, Higgs gets involved in health-care
system — again
Nancy Barnet says Higgs, Horizon Health CEO both called after
complaints about son's treatment at hospital
Aidan Cox · CBC News · Posted: Aug 02, 2022 4:46 PM AT
A man lies in a hospital bed with a neck brace.
John Barnet broke the C7 vertebrae in his neck and broke his sternum
in a motorcycle crash in Fredericton on July 26. (Submitted by Taylor
Grandy)
For the second time in just over two weeks, New Brunswick Premier
Blaine Higgs has personally involved himself in a high-profile
incident in the province's health-care system — again after it was
made public in media reports.
Dave and Nancy Barnet had demanded answers last week about why their
son John was discharged from the Dr. Everett Chalmers Regional
Hospital in Fredericton just hours after breaking his neck in a
motorcycle crash.
Following their public complaints, Nancy Barnet said the premier
called her and her husband at their home in Pictou, N.S.
She said Margaret Melanson, interim president and CEO of Horizon
Health Network, also called and arranged to have a doctor examine John
at home. He was later taken by ambulance to a hospital in Saint John.
John Barnet broke the C7 vertebra in his neck as well as his sternum,
but was sent home after six hours of care in Fredericton. His parents
wanted to know why he wasn't kept for at least 24 hours for
observation of injuries that could have left him paralyzed.
Nancy Barnet said Higgs called twice over the weekend — first on
Saturday and again on Sunday — and left voice messages, as she and her
husband weren't home to answer the phone.
Family demands answers after Fredericton ER sends man home hours
after he broke neck
A man and a woman sit next to each other.
Dave and Nancy Barnet, John's parents, received two calls from New
Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs after they sent him a letter asking him
to look into how their son was treated at the hospital in Fredericton.
(Submitted by Dave Barnet)
Not up to Higgs to run health authorities
The move comes after a July 15 news conference during which Higgs,
responding to the death of a man in the emergency department waiting
room of the same hospital, said it wasn't up to him to run the health
authorities but it was up to him "to ensure that the right people are
in the positions to do so."
That incident prompted Higgs to fire the former president and CEO of
Horizon Health and to replace its board of directors with a single
trustee. He also replaced the province's health minister.
Horizon Health didn't answer questions about whether Higgs played a
role in the followup care provided to Barnet.
In an emailed statement, Melanson said she felt it was important to
personally follow up with Barnet to determine how he and his family
were faring, and whether there was anything she could do to help.
Meanwhile, Nancy Barnet said they appreciate whatever the premier did.
"As a matter of fact, I'm planning to give [Higgs] a call myself today
to thank him," she said. "I do believe that without his support,
things may not have moved as quickly as they did."
Barnet declined to share what Higgs said in his voice messages.
John Barnet's parents received two missed phone calls from Higgs after
they wrote him a letter complaining about the treatment he received at
a Fredericton hospital. (Pat Richard/CBC)
Impatient Blaine Higgs drops health minister, Horizon CEO
She said her son has since been discharged from hospital in Saint John
and is back home in Fredericton — in pain, but recovering.
CBC News requested an interview with Higgs about his involvement in
the case and is waiting for a response.
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Web reporter/editor
Aidan Cox is a web writer for the CBC based in Fredericton. He can be
reached at aidan.cox@cbc.ca and followed on Twitter @Aidan4jrn.
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Mike May
Funny how they only care when it gives them negative press!
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