Thursday, 31 August 2017

CBC slams Maxy Bernier and calls Pierre Poilievre the younger provocateur par excellence and expects him to be silent


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Replying to and 49 others
Reply to Nelson Barley: Methinks many people know that Pierre Poilievre and I have problem with his severe lack of integrity N'esy Pas? 

http://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2017/08/



 


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-elections-canada-lapdog-1.5170638



Why is Pierre Poilievre going after Elections Canada?




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Nelson Barley
Poilievre has to be one of the least credible members on the Conservative bench. 


David Amos
Reply to @Nelson Barley: Methinks many people know that Pierre Poilievre and I have problem with his severe lack of integrity N'esy Pas?  



 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-shadow-leitch-poilievre-analysis-wherry-1.4268757

No room for Leitch in Scheer's shadow cabinet, but a big seat for Poilievre


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 Patrick Martin 
Patrick Martin
The Conservative Party was done, for me, when they mentioned Pierre Poilievre.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Patrick Martin "The Conservative Party was done, for me, when they mentioned Pierre Poilievre"

I wonder how many folks agree with you

  
 Patrick Martin
Joe Smithson
Poilievre, Rempel, Clement, Blaney, Van Loan all blow hard Harper carry overs that epitomize why the Harper Government (TM) was toppled.

Didn't Conservatives learn anything from 2015? Fear, division and contempt for science and facts will not win in Canada.


David Raymond Amos
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David Raymond Amos
@Joe Smithson Small wonder why some folks call Andy Harper 2.0 N'esy Pas?

 
David Raymond Amos
Content disabled
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos "Content disabled."???

Why on earth would CBC block the comment above?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Joe Smithson "Didn't Conservatives learn anything from 2015? Fear, division and contempt for science and facts will not win in Canada."

Nope but it appears that CBC has not learned anything either
 

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Joe Smithson CBC must use different moderators for different articles because not only did I not say anytihng wrong to you they have not blocked any of my comments over here today

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maxime-bernier-innovation-shadow-cabinet-role-1.4269012


 Jack Hill 
Jack Hill
More of the same old, same old....

Canadians recognise broken ideology.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jack Hill "Canadians recognise broken ideology."

Some do but where are their options?


Kevin Smith 
Kevin Smith
yawn and a big one, nothing to see here, just leftovers from a party that was beat a couple years ago. yawwwwwwwn.


Joe Smithson
Joe Smithson
@Ray Leland

Oct 19th. 2015. The Greatest day of the millenium!

ABC


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Joe Smithson Methinks you jest


Joe Smithson 
david kirby
Poiliviere? Surely today is not April 1st

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@david kirby "Poiliviere? Surely today is not April 1st"

Nope but its a close 2nd and just in time for Labour Day for Dr Kellie Leitch to deliver a pitbull for the circus in the House of Commons to enjoy

  
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
This is really, really hard to admit, but........the relegation to back-bencher status for Leitch makes sense on many levels, from a Party standpoint. The article is correct, the Party is desperate for re-imaging. Although, the substance remains the same.

The old maxim is not always true, "The enemy of my enemy" is not always an ally. Don't trust a Scheer led Party to be noticeably different from the Harper regime. Just a shuffling of lime-light receivers. At least, by all indications of where he plans to lead the Party stated so far.


Dave Morrow
Dave Morrow
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)

Why don't you explain to the CBC how many accounts you have as to remove anything you don't like on a regular basis?

Why don't we inform to the CBC that the erroneous manipulation of ticks is all done by you and your multiples, lots of time on your hands when asking everyone else to provide.


Dave Morrow
Dave Morrow
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)

You see that, as I mentioned nobody engaged with you as they know they will be removed.

As evidenced by the removal of all mine, and the same thing happens with all discussion with you.

Dave Morrow
Dave Morrow
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)

But, you fill pages 365-24-7 as many with nothing more than unverified sanctimonious opinions, spoken as the gospel of all knowing and unwilling to realize that you really have no true understanding other than rhetoric.

Demanding the unattainable Utopian dream that only exists in your head, and you can't even factually state how it's achieved, or answer when you are questioned on it.

Then demand all others provide for you, due to you not achieving those things yourself.

Maybe go out and enjoy this great country, apply yourself to these ambitions, and avoid these pages, all day every day as several.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Dave Morrow Need I say HMMMM???


Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
@David Raymond Amos

You would actually entertain anything written by "Tripper", "Flagger", "Ferguson", "McCloud",...and all the rest they run here, as being anything more than a debased smear campaign?

Then know who you keep for company,.....five letters beginning with a capital 'T' is the sort you wish to align with?

Hmmmm....? Indeed.

Dave Morrow
Dave Morrow
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)

Here we go, can't comment to Dave anymore.

Steven Read
Steven Read
@Dave Morrow
No there is no conspiracy. Your comments were removed for a reason. Happens to aĺl of us. You are going to have to deal with it. Start with the posting guidelines.


Jack Hill  
Jack Hill
Scheers shadowy cabinet...


George Biggs
George Biggs
@Jack Hill
It is okay Jack. It is clear you're no longer a conservative voter.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jack Hill Methinks its rather comical how one little "y" can upset conservative folks


George Biggs 
Peter Parker
So in other words Harper 2.0 and the same cast of Conservatives that were trounced in 2015.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Peter Parker YUP but methinks the Conservatives were not exactly trounced except in the Maritimes.

The NDP were the big losers because Trudeau promised to make dope legal and no more first past the post elections. If the NDP get a lot of support and split the left vote in the next kick at the can the Conservatives could win just like they did in the election of the 41st Parliament


Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....) 
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
Well, 'shadowy' about covers it.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....) LOL

Theres the little "y" again



Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
@David Raymond Amos

Re: "Theres the little "y" again"
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Care to explain the cryptic innuendo? Or, is it cryptic because the comment is only an attempt to cast aspersions with no evidence?

Funny you would show up using the exact same tactics as "Tripper", "Flagger", "Hutton", "Ferguson",.....etc?

Coincidence?


Carl Shulgin 
Carl Shulgin
The same old Harperites!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Carl Shulgin YUP



http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maxime-bernier-innovation-shadow-cabinet-role-1.4269012

Bernier vows to embrace Conservative critic role, be silent about supply management


860 Comments

Neil Gregory 
Neil Gregory
The first seven comments I read here this morning were all from a little group of well-known, righ-wing, Conservative posters who have posted the same old wishful thoughts on many previous occasions. Wouldn't it be nice it they could find something new to say?


Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw
Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw
@Neil Gregory
Mr. Bernier's relationship with Ms. Couillard was not a good career move. He lost the Foreign Affairs, a disgraced MP who could never be trusted again.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw Methinks if the lawyer Maxy Bernier expected to be leader of his party or its finance critic then he would have answered hard copy of my concerns that sent him in 2006 and all the emails I sent him and his cohorts since and long after he became a former a cabinet minister seated in opposition
  

Michael Murphy
Michael Murphy
@Max Merl "Every single day you post here complaining about right wingers or Harper. If you don't like the opinion of others why do you even bother?"

Because the right prefer half-truths, mis-truths, and outright lies and someone needs to combat those.

@Neil Gregory Keep up the great work Neil!

 
David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Michael Murphy Methinks @Max Merl Maxy Bernier and I all undterstand why you support liberals



Mike Martin
Mike Martin
@David Raymond Amos wrote:
"Methinks if the lawyer Maxy Bernier expected to be leader of his party or its finance critic then he would have answered hard copy of my concerns that sent him in 2006...."

Methinks you might have a skewed impression of your own importance in the grand scheme of things.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Martin Have you read my lawsuit yet? The documents I sent the lawyer Bernier in 2006 have been filed in the docket of Federal Court since 2015 and now the Federal Court of A


Michael Murphy
Michael Murphy
@David Raymond Amos

"Methinks @Max Merl Maxy Bernier and I all undterstand why you support liberals"

Yeah, except I don't

Liberal are no different than Conservatives

I vote NDP, not because I agree with them, rather I have no other realistic alternative

 
David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Michael Murphy Have you ever heard of another Michael Murphy?

Cyrus Manz 
Cyrus Manz
Why does the CBC feel that the only conservative shadow cabinet member who is worth covering, is the only one who is from Quebec??

Bernier has been given a relatively junior portfolio as a minister of innovation in the UPCOMING CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT. Why doesn't the CBC focus on other, more important Conservative appointees instead?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Cyrus Manz It appears to me you fail to understand that it is CBC's mandate to promote the circus in the House of Commons


Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)
Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite)
@Cyrus Manz

Perhaps if you actually LIVED in this beautiful nation, you'd realize what a complete job Harper And Co. did at systematically demolishing the trust people had in Conservatives here.

But you wouldn't understand that living all the way down in Peachtree Land...

Cyrus Manz
Cyrus Manz
@Alex Aggy

!!!...Also Bernier was one of the top contenders for the leadership, so it's just a continuation of the leadership campaign coverage, maybe. ...!!!

I followed the CBC coverage of Conservative leadership race very closely.
Both O'Leary and Bernier were the CBC's top favorite candidate until O'Leary dropped out due to the lack of voter interest in him and then the CBC doubled down on the coverage of Bernier.

IN FACT NO OTHER CANDIDATE got a FRACTION of the coverage that the CBC gave Berniere during the leadership race, which is a clear RED FLAG as far as I am concerned, one that is also seemingy shared by the leadership, hence his relatively junior portfolio in the shadow cabinet.

REMEMBER that the CONSERVATIVE MEMBERSHIP drives the p[arty, not the MEDIA:-)

Alan MacLean
Alan MacLean
@Cyrus Manz
There are more important positions in the shadow cabinet, but whether there are more important appointees is debatable.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Cyrus Manz "REMEMBER that the CONSERVATIVE MEMBERSHIP drives the p[arty, not the MEDIA:-)"

Whereas you are south of the 49th why not explain your point of view to Trump and his party membership and the media?



Cyrus Manz
Cyrus Manz
@David Raymond Amos

You have no clue where I am, as I have no clue about your whereabouts. You could be posting from Lebanon or the AGHA KHAN resort for all we know.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Cyrus Manz "You could be posting from Lebanon or the AGHA KHAN resort for all we know"

Do you enjoy insulting people?

FYI I am sitting not far from the Federal Court in Fredericton New Brunswick perhaps you should query the docket?

David Allan
David Allan
@Phil Major
"I live in this beautiful country and the conservatives have millions of supporters in my region."

Your region barely has a million people.
Phil Major
Phil Major
@David Allan "Your region barely has a million people."

No, my region has many millions of people. What do you gain from posting such a wrongheaded and trite comment?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Phil Major How do the rights of many people Trump a lesser number?



Phil Major
Phil Major @David Raymond Amos "How do the rights of many people Trump a lesser number?"

I'm not sure what you're asking here. I mean, I can take your questions at face, but it has nothing to do with my comments in this thread.

@Laurence told another poster that if he actually lived in Canada he would see how the Conservatives have dismantled the trust Canadians had in them. I countered with the fact that there are millions of Conservative supporters in my region of Canada.

@David said their is only barely 1 million people in my region. And I countered that there are many millions of people in my region.

Then you chime in with this question out of left field. At no point were we discussing rights, nor the tension between the rights of the many over the rights of an individual.

 
Mike Hamilton
Mike Hamilton
@Lawrence Aaluuluuq (RedWhite) Careful. Most people living south of the Mason/Dixon, such as those in Sarasota, Florida, consider the term "Yankee" to be an insult. I have friends in Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina that refer to me as a Yankee, even though I was born, raised, and still live in the Maritimes. Anyone north of the Mason/Dixon is considered a Yankee.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Hamilton I was born and raised in the Maritimes and ran for public office here 5 times. However I am also married to Yankee lady and and lived there many years. We have two full grown Yankee children living south of the 49th to this very day.

Countless times over the years I have teased my friends living south of the Mason/Dixon by calling them Yankees. As soon as they reacted I would say you forget where I am from. Anyone south of our border is Yankee to me

Furthermore I tease them some more by asking when they go overseas and notice a sign saying "Yankee Go Home" do they really think the sign is referring to a baseball team from New York? After that they usually just laugh and give up because they know I will tease them some more.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos @Phil Major As an individual who ran for public office five times in an Independent in the sparsely populated Maritimes I take my rights rather seriously. A Google check of me will prove that I am for real.

Furthermore I have only one account with CBC I certainly did not appreciate it blocking me while a left wingnut began accusing me of being a Troll with many accounts just as another comment section in CBC closed down this evening.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-shadow-leitch-poilievre-analysis-wherry-1.4268757


Alex Matheson
Juan Podrido
Am I the only one with that déjà-vu-all-over-again feeling? The worst of the Harperites are back in charge.
One has to pity the somewhat-progressives in the party; do they regret the day they agreed to form the Conservative-Reform-Alliance-Party (as it was known for about a day)?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Juan Podrido Althugh I did not coin the phrase I enjoy calling their leader Harper 2.0


Mike Hamilton
Mike Hamilton
@Alex Matheson I don't think MacKay is gone for good. He knew if he stayed on the CPC beating would be even worse. He is waiting patiently for Sheer to go through his "Kim Campbell" election, then ride in to "save" the party in 2023.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Hamilton I agree However I believe James Moore and John Baird have the same plan


David Allan
David Allan
@Juan Podrido
"The worst of the Harperites are back in charge. "

In charge of what?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Allan My best guess is that he means they are in charge of the demise of the Conservative party

Wil Brown 
Wil Brown
I wonder if he'll leave these files lying around too?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Wil Brown Perhaps he will finally find mine


 Fenian Conn 
Fenian Conn
If integrity is the issue, the Tories are finished Lawrence Martin, May 12, 2015
========
Can reformacons play a role in good government? No. I don't think so. Not after 10 years of neglect and dis-empowerment of Canada's professional public service. The demonstrated disrespect of Canadians who believe in truth, reason and science is too foreboding.


Dwight Williams
Dwight Williams
@Fenian Conn

Disregarding for the moment the useless labels people attach great meaning to, and the attempts by the usual suspects to paint everything not hard-core conservative as 'the left', in reality the most conservative politicians we should have involved in running the place are the centre-right members of the LPC. And yes, there are plenty of 'liberals' who embrace globalism, free trade, economic growth over environmental protection, and all the other hallmarks of what USED to be the federal PC party.

The conservative movement on this continent in this century has given itself over to corporatist neo-fascism and the quest for power at the expense of abandoning the basic premises of democracy.

Conservatives in Canada may be kinder and gentler than those in the USA but they have the same tendencies and are being steadily ever more infected by the rhetoric of the Freedom Caucus in the USA. The main difference between countries being that the fascist-lite people in the US have tried and succeeded in passing measures for things like voter suppression where in Canada they have tried and failed.

The reformacons as currently comprised have nothing useful to offer the country, and the selection of Scheer as their leader made certain that they continue to be useless.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Dwight Williams "the selection of Scheer as their leader made certain that they continue to be useless"

I disagree

If folks wish to enjoy the circus in the House of Commons how could we do without Harper 2.0 and his lawyer buddy Max as the two main clowns taking on Trudeau The Younger and his cohorts?



Charles Cory
Charles Cory
@David Raymond Amos , that's the problem. Those not of the reformacons believe that all is good with them as a party. The truth is, everyone should be annoyed and concerned that the refirmacons could be a sitting government.

Enough with the partisan rhetoric. Work together to help Canada run smoothly instead of constantly being in electioneering mode, ala the US president.


Fenian Conn 
Fenian Conn
harper: Party of One

scheer: Party of Another One


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Fenian Conn You forgot to count Max in your tally


Al Smith 
mo bennett
this is what happens to tired old reformacon hacks. get over it!


Al Smith
Al Smith
@mo bennett So boring


Neil Gregory
Neil Gregory
@Al Smith

So boring,but so accurate.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Neil Gregory True


rayma allaby 
rayma allaby
sorry bernier but when you can't be trusted with confidential papers that you leave at your girlfriends you can't be trusted with the reins of this country...


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@rayma allaby Who can trusted with the reins of this country?


 Alex Matheson 
Alex Matheson
Bernier appears to be a good sport, so far. Come election time it will quickly become apparent to the CPC that they have no chance in winning the election under Scheers leadership.
Keeping Leitch out was good. Leaving Raitt and Poilivere in was a mistake. If the Cons cannot attract qualified candidates to run for them, they should at least try to attract some personable/likable ones. As it stands now and unless the Libs screw up big time in the next couple of years, the Cons will be in the shadows shadowing the politicians who actually have power. Kinda like ghosts.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Alex Matheson "Bernier appears to be a good sport"

Methinks you jest
   
Jackson Farley
Meldrum Begin
If it were not for nonsensical comments, the alt-left wouldn't have anything to say!


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Meldrum Begin If you don't understand the humour how are you going to enjoy the circus the taxpayers are funding?

Jackson Farley
Jackson Farley
Andrew Scheer will be the next Prime Minister of Canada in the next election. The Liberals and 23 have boondoggled themselves so bad that they will probably go back to third party status. Canada can no longer afford 23 anymore and his Sunny Ways.
  

Jackson Farley
Chris O'Regan
@Jackson Farley No he won't. It will be Justin again, or maybe Charlie. There is no room for Andy and the conservative dream while Trump is in power down south exposing its rotting political core.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Chris O'Regan If the NDP split the left vote in the next the Conservatives could win just like they did in the election of the 41st Parliament after being found in contempt.

 
Chris O'Regan
Chris O'Regan
@David Raymond Amos I disagree. Donald Trump is doing a great job of destroying the Right. The only option for the CPC is for them to align with progressives, and they shed that skin when the dropped the word from their party name. The do not have a leader who can silence their far-right proponents and moving to the left is bound to upset many of their supporters. They have absolutely no room to maneuver. The next election will be between LPC and NDP.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Chris O'Regan Yea Right

Have you talked to Mikey Cohen Trump's lawyer lately? I did twice. Do you want his cell number?


Marc Henry 
Marc Henry
It's nice to hear from Bernier, but the CBC is really over playing this "didn't get the job he wanted" angle.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Marc Henry Its kinda obvious what CBC is up to

  
Juan Podrido
Dean Melanson
Once again we'll see the "tolerance" of the alt-left on full display ..... quite an angry mob aren't they ????


Jim S Powers
Jim S Powers
@Dean Melanson no anger at all we can't stop laughing

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jim S Powers Tell us another one so I can laugh some more

Phil Major
Phil Major
@David Allan I'm not using the term alt-left. I think you've misread the initial comment. Another poster used it. I'm perfectly fine operating without the alt-left label. But to bicker over the name is to miss the point.

There are extremists on the left. Notable leftist Nancy Pelosi recently called them out in a stunning about face. Even left leaning media are beginning to call out the misdeads of the extremists on the left.

So call them alt- or otherwise, they exist and they are a problem. I think people should be able to discuss the issues around the extreme left without having to make reference to the alt-right. They aren't the same and they are each wrong on their own merit.

You seem to want to keep comparing the extreme left and the alt-right as a means of minimizing the criticism of the left. (you invoke several questions about "who did this" and "who did that")


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Phil Major Well put


John Morrison
John Morrison
The CPC is a religion first, bury your head and ignore Canadians, party...I'll have nothing to do with them!



John Morrison
John Morrison
@Roland Reimer - FYI, Progressive Conservative until Harper, Independent now. Never Liberal. I just wanted to clear up your confused erroneous fabrication of my politics.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Morrison I have always been Independent because old Groucho I would not belong to any club that would have me for a member.


Alan MacLean 
Alan MacLean
Good for him. I am looking forward to witnessing a strong stance against corporate welfare.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Alan MacLean "I am looking forward to witnessing a strong stance against corporate welfare."

Me too


Lance Butterworth 
Lance Butterworth
I wouldn't trust Pierre Poilievre to run a children's lemonade stand let alone have any place in cabinet. The incompetence is strong on this one.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Lance Butterworth CBC slams Maxy Bernier and calls Pierre Poilievre the younger provocateur par excellence and expects him to be silent?

Yea Right


Jack Richards
Joe Massino
Max, it's the insurance policy. You've left it on someone's coffee table, again.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Joe Massino Nope his insurance policy is still stuffed under the mattress


Jack Richards
Danny Tanker
"Twice in the last three months, Maxime Bernier has watched someone else walk away with the job he wanted"

By now, you would think he would get it.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Danny Tanker I ain't a fan of Maxy but I know that lawyer ain't dumb


 Jack Richards 
Jack Richards
Canada is screwed with what we have as PM.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jack Richards And we would do better with Harper 2.0 and his buddies Maxy and Pierre? Yea Right

Steven Scott 
Steven Scott
The cons are conning themselves again by installing reformers into top positions, I guess they will never learn, Bad for conservatives, Good for Canadians. Keep it up guys you're doing a fine job .. snicker snicker .........


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Steven Scott Methinks you liberals are not wise to underestimate their opposition


 donna gregoire 
donna gregoire
....pretty easy for Poilievre to be a fiancé critic...with $30billion deficits, stock market down to 2015 levels, GDP dropped to 2014 levels, the trade deficit setting a low ball record recently, a dumb idea about a taxpayer funded infrastructure bank, no plans to balance the budget in the next 30 years, business taxes ballooning, Phoenix payroll out of control, and wasteful spending at all levels with no one accountable in this shameful Liberal government...


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@donna gregoire "pretty easy for Poilievre to be a fiancé critic"

Its comes naturally for Pierre to attack anything He was one Harper favourite pitbulls in the House Hence it follows that Harper 2.0 would give him the limelight too


Steven Scott
Steven Scott
@David Raymond Amos
Oh don't you worry, were watching the NDP and Greens closely .........

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Steven Scott Have you read my lawsuit yet?

  
Steven Scott
Lesley Durham-McPhee
I disagree with almost everything that Bernier promotes, but I have a lot of respect for him. I wish for more politicians like him in every party - he stands up for his beliefs without a lot of partisan, negative talk It's possible to actually hear what he has to say and consider the merits of his arguments.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Lesley Durham-McPhee On the otherhand I agree with almost everything that Bernier promotes, but I have a lot of disrespect for him


Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw  
Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw
Bernier, Sheer who cares, they are all out to line their own pockets in some way or form. Disgusting actually.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Kristoffer Luukski Gildenlöw True


Joe Smithson
David MacKinnon
Someday soon somebody will report on policy, not today, perhaps not tomorrow but soon, I feel it in my bones.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David MacKinnon Policy? The policy is to win no matter what you have to promise in order to do so. However the politicians also know many folks prefer juicy gossip to help them to decide who to vote for in elections
  

John Morrison 
John Morrison
Mini Me and PP... mix in Bernier, et voila...the CPC falls to 3rd party status in 2019...rotflol.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Morrison Wanna bet?


John Morrison
John Morrison
@David Raymond - 2nd is a given, 3rd is in their sights...wanna bet?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Morrison YUP How many loonies?

Hank Hanrattay 
Hank Hanrattay
The last seven comments I read here this morning were all from a little group of well-known, left-wing, Liberal posters who have posted the same old wishful thoughts on many previous occasions. Wouldn't it be nice it they could find something new to say?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Hank Hanrattay However you and I are here as well correct? CBC and everybody else knows by now that II am not a liberal or conservative or NDP or Green supporter or Bloc N'esy Pas?


 Spencer McDougall 
Spencer McDougall
Everyone's favourite Canadian, Omar Khadr, is back and court and the story isn't open for comments.
A flawed opinion piece about removing Sir John A. Macdonald's name from schools has been posted andd isn't open for comments.
Meanwhile, a nothing story about a Conservative politician is fair game and the lefties are jumping at the opportunity to criticize.
Sad, CBC, very sad.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Spencer McDougall Also CBCl must use different moderators for different articles I can post here with abandon but not only did I not say anything wrong they have blocked some my comments over here today which largely the same topic

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-shadow-leitch-poilievre-analysis-wherry-1.4268757


Bob Peterson 
Bob Peterson
Quebec MP Maxime Bernier has been given the role of critic for the Innovation, Science and Economic Development file.

First, he loses the leadership gig to a nobody and now this. Appointed to a phony baloney file by a bigger phony. If it wasn't for the $200K per year, unlimited personal expense account and bullet proof pension............boy oh boy.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Bob Peterson "If it wasn't for the $200K per year, unlimited personal expense account and bullet proof pension............boy oh boy."

What about man oh man stuff? How about long vacations, free world wide travel and fancy dinner parties with fine looking women etc?


Dimitri Stantos
Dimitri Stantos
ABL 2018/19

First Wynne, then Trudeau. - bye bye.


Raymond Chandler
Raymond Chandler
@John Gerrits

I guarantee you these phony down votes
are being perpetrated by alt-right guy
pretending to be ( and therefore discrediting )
progressives / center left folk. It is an
obvious tactic and should be stopped by
CBC.


Dimitri Stantos
Dimitri Stantos
@Neil Gregory

Hmm, please point out where these 'right-wing' Conservative posters are that are getting the auto-up votes. I haven't seen any, only auto-down votes targetting the good guys (e.g non-lefties).


Mike Hamilton
Mike Hamilton
@Dimitri Stantos I gave you an old-fashioned single down-vote just to make you feel better.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Hamilton LOL


Ben Hague
Ben Hague
The main question is : What flaw prevents him from obtaining promotion with in his Conservative party & why is he always seemed to be left behind ?


Neil Gregory
Neil Gregory
@Ben Hague

It sounds as if some top people in the CPC know stuff about that they are keeping from the rest of the party.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Neil Gregory Methinks Harper 2.0 would not dare to practice the spirit of full disclosure with the membership that barely elected him to be their leader N'esy Pas?



Joe Smithson
Jeremy Kemp
It would be best for Canada if Bernier was NEVER given a position of greater importance than THE closet doorman.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Jeremy Kemp I disagree

Methinks it would be a wonderful thing if the lawyer finally learned the meaning of the word integrity decided to act ethically and stood in the house and told the awful truth of it all, let the political cards fall where they may and swept the floor of the crooks.

If anyone did that Canadians would cheer and no doubt the honest politician could become the next Prime Minister if they wanted the job

Charles Cory
Charles Cory
@David Raymond Amos; too many would not see it as being the truth. Too many can only see us and them.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Charles Cory Much to my chagrin I must admit that what you say is true.

However I have not lost my faith in my fellow Common Man just yet.

(: To keep on the sunny side of Trudreau the Younger and his cohorts perhaps I should say Common Lady too because its 2 years past 2015 N'esy Pas? :)


Alex Norris
Bob Lashram
All I see are the same old left and right supporters hurling insults and trying to garner their perceived popularity through "likes". Would be nice to see discussions focus more on issues and policies...
Bernier is a good resource no matter if you personally like him or not and regardless if you agree with his positions or not. A party needs contrary, opposing views to be truly effective and ensure healthy debate. Current and past governments remain too PMO controlled like Harper's control, and yes, like Trudeau and Butts control...


Alex Norris
Alex Norris
@Bob Lashram

Very good comment. Totally agree.

William Frederick
William Frederick
@Bob Lashram If you want that why not run for office-just to get serious

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@William Frederick I been there done that five times thus far while CBC denied that I was on the ballot all five times because no doubt their politically appointed bosses ordered it. Check their work and my comments during the most recent federal election. I also ran in Fundy Royal in 2004

Fundy Royal voters have elected Conservatives all but 1 time in 28 elections over 101 years

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276





Why is Pierre Poilievre going after Elections Canada?

The Conservative MP's reference to 'paid influencers' raises spectre of election-rigging


The reference to "SNC" relates to a compliance agreement signed between SNC-Lavalin and the federal commissioner of elections in 2016. As part of that agreement, the company acknowledged illegally reimbursing some of its employees for political donations — $110,000 to the Liberal Party and $8,000 to the Conservative Party — and agreed to implement measures to ensure its employees behave properly in the future. (According to the agreement, the executives involved in the reimbursement no longer work for SNC-Lavalin.)

One former executive from SNC-Lavalin also pleaded guilty to two charges related to the donations.

But when news of that compliance agreement was revived this spring, a lawyer for Dean Del Mastro — the former Conservative MP convicted of three elections offences in 2015 and sentenced to a month of house arrest — suggested SNC-Lavalin had gotten off comparatively easy.


Former Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro. (Chris Young/Canadian Press)


The commissioner regularly uses compliance agreements to resolve violations. In fact, one of the 29 agreements issued in the last four years involved Poilievre, after the Conservative MP wore a golf shirt with the Conservative party logo to a Government of Canada announcement.

Poilievre seemed disturbed by SNC-Lavalin's deal, telling reporters that "Elections Canada has a lot of explaining to do." (In fact, at the time of the compliance agreement, the commissioner of elections was housed within the office of the director of public prosecutions — the result of a change that Poilievre himself made with the so-called "Fair Elections Act.")

The reference to "paid influencers," meanwhile, relates to Elections Canada's plan to enlist popular social media users as part of a campaign to encourage younger Canadians to vote. Young people tend to vote at lower rates than other age cohorts, so there's an argument for making an effort to encourage them to participate.

When they do vote, young people tend to favour parties of the political left. And so, Conservatives may be concerned that this attempt at boosting civic engagement might have an impact that isn't entirely apolitical.

Vote-rigging talk ramps up


Whether either of these measures qualifies Elections Canada — a legally independent institution that reports to Parliament — to be described as a den of "Liberal lapdogs" is at least debatable.

But while Poilievre is questioning the integrity of the official authority on federal elections, his fellow Conservatives have suggested that the Trudeau government is angling to "rig" the next vote.

The Conservatives have used the r-word to describe Liberal changes to the regulation of pre-campaign political spending, the government's plans to boost struggling private media companies, Elections Canada's hiring of social influencers, and the creation of a commissioner to organize leaders' debates.

To suggest that an election is being rigged is about as serious an allegation as one can level at a sitting government. It is the sort of thing that conjures thoughts of stuffed ballot boxes and gerrymandered electoral districts.

To be fair, this isn't the first time such an accusation has been floated by opposition MPs — it came up a few times when the Conservatives re-wrote elections laws in 2014. But the accusation is being levelled with some frequency now. And the most recent accusations might ring louder in the current global context.

A fraught moment for democracy around the world


Since 2016, multiple reports have warned that global democracy is eroding, as public trust declines and institutions are attacked. Authoritarianism and "illiberal democracy" are now seen as real threats to the Western democratic order. "Fake news," misinformation and foreign interference have further added to a general sense of instability and mistrust surrounding the democratic process.

This fall's campaign could be a closely contested race riven by online suspicion and conspiracy theories. To drop an accusation of official bias or 'election-rigging' into such a potentially volatile situation risks significant consequences for public faith in the result.

None of which means Elections Canada or the federal government should be beyond reproach. But the tenor of the times might at least demand that such accusations be levelled with a certain amount of care and seriousness.

It also raises questions for the accusers. Does Poilievre have any proposals for increasing the independence of Elections Canada? Are Conservatives prepared to question the legitimacy of the election result? If they truly do believe that the election will be somehow tainted, shouldn't they be even louder in raising that alarm?

The Unifor factor


By the same token, the Liberals might ask themselves whether Unifor's involvement in the panel that will preside over the government's new media fund (the source of one of the Conservatives' complaints) is wise.

This isn't the first time Poilievre has suggested he has problems with Elections Canada. In 2014, after the chief electoral officer raised concerns about the Conservative government's proposed election reforms, Poilievre told a Senate committee that Marc Mayrand just wanted "more power, a bigger budget and less accountability."

"He is fighting to retain this power, making some incredible claims and inventing some novel legal principles to do it," Poilievre alleged.
Appearing later before the same committee, former auditor general Sheila Fraser expressed dismay over Poilievre's words.

"It troubles me greatly ... I would say disturbs me greatly, to see comments that are made, and I will be quite blunt, by the minister ... attacking personally the chief electoral officer," she said.

"This serves none of us well. It undermines the credibility of these institutions. And at the end of the day, if this is to continue, we will all pay, because no one will have faith in government, or in chief electoral officers, or our democratic system."

Politics is often conducted as if it's a sport. Ultimately, though, it's no game.



About the Author

 


Aaron Wherry
Parliament Hill Bureau
Aaron Wherry has covered Parliament Hill since 2007 and has written for Maclean's, the National Post and the Globe and Mail.









No room for Leitch in Scheer's shadow cabinet, but a big seat for Poilievre

The Conservative leader introduces his government-in-waiting

By Aaron Wherry, CBC News Posted: Aug 30, 2017 6:38 PM ET  ET
 
Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer has assembled his shadow cabinet to challenge the Liberals in the House of Commons. There were a couple surprises on the list.
Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer has assembled his shadow cabinet to challenge the Liberals in the House of Commons. There were a couple surprises on the list. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press) 

So it seems Kellie Leitch didn't pass the values screening required to enter Andrew Scheer's shadow cabinet.

What to do with Leitch, the polarizing leadership candidate who proposed questioning immigrants about their commitment to "Canadian values" and celebrated Donald Trump's election victory in the U.S., had loomed as one of the more interesting early decisions Scheer would have to make as Conservative leader.

Though she finished sixth in that race, she still seemed to find an audience. What's more, she was a minister in Stephen Harper's cabinet and had been health critic when the Conservatives moved to Opposition in 2015 (she relinquished that role when she entered the leadership race). She's a doctor and, at least previous to her screening proposal, she could be described as a well-connected party insider.

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Conservative MP Kellie Leitch squared off against Scheer in the party's leadership race. Scheer won and has now relegated her to the backbench. (Chris Wattie/Reuters)

But her inclusion in the shadow cabinet would have been noted. Indeed, the Liberals would've no doubt been thrilled to turn her presence into a club with which they could beat Scheer over the head.
Now, as Scheer continues to recast the post-Harper Conservative Party, Leitch is relegated to the backbench.

Bernier doesn't get finance


So too is Brad Trost, another leadership candidate and the most outspoken social conservative in the Conservative caucus. While running for leader, he said he would never march in a Pride parade.

Scheer's own social views have been a point of curiosity and Trost's inclusion would have fed those questions. Whether Scheer himself walks in a Pride parade remains to be seen.

All other top leadership candidates are present and accounted for on Scheer's team, including Maxime Bernier, who had taken the novel approach of openly declaring his interest in the finance portfolio.
Instead, Bernier will be responsible for shadowing Innovation Minister Navdeep Bains.

Putting Bernier at finance would have been awkward unless Scheer was ready to adopt Bernier's dramatic tax cuts. And insofar as Bains will likely spend the next two years announcing grants, financing and partnerships with tech companies and manufacturers, Bernier will presumably have plenty of "corporate welfare" to complain about.

Poilievre gets big role


The prominent role of finance goes to Pierre Poilievre, who is perhaps most famous for frustrating his partisan rivals in question period.

That reputation aside, Poilievre has revelled in expounding on "economic freedom." He has said that reading Milton Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom at the age of 17 was a "seminal" moment in his political development. His website has been decorated with quotes like, "Small government makes for big citizens" and "Government cannot give anything, without first taking it away."

Those are the sorts of things that might bring a tear of joy to Maxime Bernier's eye.

Which is not to say Poilievre is inflexible. As a minister in Stephen Harper's cabinet, he travelled the country at public expense to promote his government's child benefit, touting it as "Christmas in July." He is credited with suggesting the children's fitness tax credit, which diverted general tax revenues to those with certain expenses and enough taxable income as a de facto social program (it also disproportionately benefited wealthier families).

As much as Poilievre has frustrated other parties in the House of Commons, he should be expected to challenge Finance Minister Bill Morneau, who, while affable, can be a bit rigid in public forums. And Poilievre will presumably be joined by Lisa Raitt, who will be Scheer's deputy leader.

What's in a name?


Making Morneau's life difficult will be a significant part of the job. Looking the part of a future finance minister is another.

"Our shadow ministers are united, energized, and diverse," Scheer declared in a statement Wednesday. "We are going to arrive in Ottawa in the fall with one clear message to Canadians: That we are ready to form the next Government of Canada."

Diversity is not this group's strong suit: opposite the gender-balanced cabinet, Scheer's team is predominantly male.

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Scheer found a spot in the shadow cabinet for former leadership rival Maxime Bernier, although not the finance role Bernier wanted. (Chris Wattie/Reuters)

But the use of the term "shadow minister" is interesting.

In Canada, a cabinet minister's Opposition counterpart is typically referred to as a critic. But in Britain, and other Westminster parliaments, shadow minister is the preferred term.

Shadow minister certainly suggests a greater degree of seriousness and if we are to adopt the same language here, it might be on the expectation that these shadow ministers will act as something more than critics.

That is, that they might present alternative proposals and solutions more readily, instead of merely criticizing.
The Conservative Party's policy convention isn't until next August, but it's never too early to demonstrate that the government-in-waiting has some new ideas about what it might do if it gets into office.


Bernier vows to embrace Conservative critic role, be silent about supply management

Leadership runnerup says innovation file will allow him to focus on other issues he raised in campaign

By Catherine Cullen, CBC News Posted: Aug 31, 2017 5:00 AM ET

Quebec MP Maxime Bernier has been given the role of critic for the Innovation, Science and Economic Development file.
Quebec MP Maxime Bernier has been given the role of critic for the Innovation, Science and Economic Development file. (Mark Blinch/Reuters) 

Twice in the last three months, Maxime Bernier has watched someone else walk away with the job he wanted.

In May, the Quebec MP and former cabinet minister walked into the Conservative leadership convention nearly certain he was going to win. Instead, he watched from across the aisle as Andrew Scheer won by a 0.95-percentage point margin.

Then, as Bernier was dusting himself off from the loss, he began to muse publicly about what would come next.

"It will all depend on what my leader Andrew offers me. I want to play an important role in the Conservative Party of Canada as a critic. I won't hide that the role I have my eye on is the finance critic," he said in an interview with Quebec radio station CHOI-FM. He made similar comments to the Globe and Mail.

No such luck. Bernier has now watched another job he wanted given to someone else — the younger provocateur par excellence, Pierre Poilievre.

Bernier was left with the Innovation, Science and Economic Development portfolio. Most would call it by a previous moniker, "Industry." It's still an economic file, but not as high profile as finance.

But Bernier is not complaining.

"Most important for me was to have an economic portfolio, and, as you know, the industry portfolio is an economic one and I'm very pleased with that," he told CBC News.

While Bernier admits it's his second choice, he said he'll be happy to hammer away on issues like subsidies and grants to big businesses. Speaking out against "corporate welfare" was a big part of his libertarian-oriented leadership campaign.

Abolishing supply management


It's also a place where he shares some ideological common ground with Scheer — unlike supply management, an issue upon which he and Scheer were diametrically opposed.

Bernier still believes abolishing supply management for dairy and poultry is the right thing to do, but he said he knows the majority of the party is siding with Scheer on this one.

"I still believe the best policy for Canada will be abolish that, but I'm the only one and I won't speak about that," said Bernier.

"It is not my portfolio. I did my fight. I was not successful. And now let's work on things that we have in common, Andrew and I. And that's the economy."

Would disagreeing on such a major economic issue make it virtually impossible for Scheer to name Bernier as finance critic?

"You must ask him the question," said Bernier.

Lessons learned


Bernier said in the months since his loss he's spent time with family and trained for a marathon. He thought about leaving politics. He said he's entertained a few offers from financial companies in the private sector.
Ultimately, he decided that he likes politics and wanted to stay and fight for what he calls "freedom ideas."

He still considers his leadership campaign a success, noting that few journalists would have pegged him to be a front-runner when the leadership campaign began.

He said he also learned a few lessons.

"I learned that you must not be afraid to speak about what you believe. And to have principles. If you have your principles and policies in line with the principles, you'll gain a lot of respect."
Respect, perhaps, though not always the job you want.

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