Wednesday 30 August 2017

Who cares that Conservative Trolls are allowed to attack Trudeau in CBC or the NDP roster of members is nearly what it once was when Mulcair won their last leadership race

Trust that I don't but I had good fun teasing them today in CBC

Obviously I got bored with the Conservatives Trolls and their mindless insults. At least the NDP supporters had something to say N'esy Pas Mr Prime Minister Trudeau "The Younger"???


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-north-korea-threat-1.4267612

Liberals assess North Korea's threat daily, says Trudeau after shot over Japan

  
440 Comments


 Jackson Farley 
Jackson Farley
Rest assured that the Unicorn Army and Rainbow Brigade is on full alert.


Mike Crow
Mike Crow
@Jackson Farley

Dare ya to say it to military member.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Crow Me too


 Debra Kiwat  
Debra Kiwat
Is Trudeau going to give Kim Jong Un a hug ? Trudeau is irrelevant on the world stage and sadly Liberals haven't figured that out yet.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Debra Kiwat Say what you will However even though I don't respect Trudeau the Younger I must admit that he is far more respected by other nations than Mr Trump the purported leader of the "Free World"


Cyrus Manz  
Cyrus Manz
Yup, they assess NK daily and we have no clue when their missiles will be coming to our West Coast, just like they have now been fired over Japan.

The problem that Trudeau liberals have is that China pulls NK's strings and Trudeau liberals are all IN LOVE with the communist regime in China. THAT is a big problem .


Mike Crow
Mike Crow
@Cyrus Manz

China doesn't pull NKs strings since Kims father died. You need to keep up.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Crow True


Daniel Johnston 
Daniel Johnston
Is this adolescent ever going to stop embarrassing me?




David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Daniel Johnston I am no fan of Trudeau The Younger either However to be fair I do agree with his stand on this topic as long as he sticks to it

"Trudeau said last week that Canada's "long-standing" position on staying out of the U.S. missile defence program would not be changing any time soon."


 Marion Manchak 
Zavie Johnston
Sorry Justin but you are not a player,


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Zavie Johnston "Sorry Justin but you are not a player"

Yes he is bigtime byway of NATO


Mike Crow  
Bob Lashram
Really...you assess the NK situation Daily! Why...you can't do anything about NK...you have no missile capability, an anemic air force, 4 decrepit diesel submarines, a miniscule armed force and no seat on the security Council. Are you waiting for just the right time to give them a tongue Lashing? Let's get real...



Mike Crow
Mike Crow
@Bob Lashram

I blame the state of our military on both the Cons and Libs.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Mike Crow "I blame the state of our military on both the Cons and Libs"

Me too


Dirk Beauregard 
Dirk Beauregard
"Liberals assess North Korea threat daily, says Trudeau after shot over Japan"

Translation:

Liberals have no clue and no plan regarding North Korea.

Here's why this is important: If North Korea fires a missile intended for the USA and an error on their part causes the missile to hit somewhere in Canada unintentionally...the Liberals will still have no plan...and no clue....

Proof? Take a look at the their handling of the refugees crossing the border...and they knew it was going to happen. If they can't handle, with advance warning, an influx of unarmed refugees, how prepared do you think the Liberals are for an errant missile strike from an unstable country, with advance warning that the country is (a) unstable and (b) has the capability?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Dirk Beauregard Do you practice fear mongering much? If not you should if you expect folks to take you seriously


John Chow 
John Chow
World events are going to force some tough decisions on PM Trudeau, regardless of whether he wants them or not.



Rob Lehtisaari
Rob Lehtisaari
@John Chow

World & Domestic events are the challenge of every PM, and President of sovereign nations.

Like it or not.

Until War occurs we are simply spectators.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Rob Lehtisaari "Until War occurs we are simply spectators."

I agree


Garry Walton 
Garry Walton
What are we going to do anyway justin, whip out our F18's and show Kim Jong-un how big

they are?

They are just gathering dust in the liberal hanger.



Glen Rodgers
Glen Rodgers
@Garry Walton
...while we wait for that significant LPC commitment of 18 new super hornets. By the way, when is this procurement exercise scheduled to happen?


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Glen Rodgers At least the longer it takes the less taxes we will have to pay for the interest on the debt


Clint Allen 
Clint Allen
As part of the agreement to be left alone while accessing the North Korean Threat.
Justin was quite pleased when his handlers told him that he alone could decide in the future what to do with West Korea


Larry P Farrell
Larry P Farrell
@Clint Allen
Best one of the day Clint.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Larry P Farrell It depends on your politics whether that is true



Eric Biallas 
Eric Biallas
I can't express enough that a GREAT leader leads and not stands on the sidelines.
Trudeau shows us that he is NOT a great leader of our country but a fence sitter.
So, he sits on the fence, pretend-ending to lead our great nation.
An election can't come soon enough! Out with pretenders!!


Moira Wilkinson
Moira Wilkinson
@Eric Biallas
The way the latest polls are looking. The conservatives will be lucky if they come in third after the NDP.




David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Moira Wilkinson Are you certain of that?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Moira Wilkinson I see a different tally 


Garry Walton 
Garry Walton
Diversity will keep us safe.


MichaelDana
MichaelDana
@Garry Walton right..we have Canadian & US dollars in circulation

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@MichaelDana Methinks you jest





http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-leadership-members-1.4265642

NDP triples its membership to 124,000 in run-up to party's leadership vote


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Billy Bennett  
Billy Bennett
Canadians rejected the right wing neocon ideology by getting rid of Harper and Christy Clark, Alison Redford and their ilk.

Politics are changing and younger voters don't fall victim to the smear campaigns and fake news these right wing parties pump out to stay relevant.



John Oaktree
John Oaktree
@Friday Jones

Not in Canada. The Canadian media, with the exception of the CBC who is not allowed to endorse anyone, endorses the Conservative Party of Canada in every election...

The "right-wing" controls the news in Canada...

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Oaktree I strongly disagree



John Dirlik
John Dirlik
@Friday Jones

Six corporations run by conservative ideologues control 90% of what Americans watch. They unsurprisingly peddle a self-serving narrative, whether 2003 WMD lies to invade Iraq, an ongoing pro-Israel bias to justify its occupation or the pre-election cheerleading for war hawk Hillary Clinton (only because Trump was viewed as too much of a loose cannon).

Canada's largest private media (Postmedia, whose flagship National Post religiously champions Conservatives and de-funding CBC) last year further expanded its already impressive monopoly by merging the editorial desks of hitherto competing newspapers, even though its purchase of Quebecor's Sun chain was approved by the Competition Bureau on the condition they be kept separate.

With its Conservative-dominated board (that sets policy and hires senior management) high-profile commentators like Rex Murphy (Canada's Rush Limbaugh with a thesaurus) and former National Post columnist (Robyn Urback) as producer of its Opinion Page, the worst (or best) CBC can be accused of is being centre-left.

Even if it were extreme left, it would still be a partial shelter from the avalanche of right-wing outlets blanketing our media landscape.

"Left wing media"? Pure unadulterated myth.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Dirlik Tell that nonsense to the New York Times and their buddies in CNN etc who supported Hillary Clinton

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Dirlik Furthermore CBC often ignores its non-partisan mandate in support of its left leaning agenda.

Nobody can deny that CBC denies the existence of people running in the elections in Fundy Royal.

Check the comments within these CBC news articles

Fundy Royal campaign targets middle class with focus on jobs

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

Fundy Royal flips for just second time in a century

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/alaina-lockhart-rob-moore-fundy-royal-1.3279252

However CBC often promotes the liberal lawyer who ran every federal liberal campaign in Fundy Royal for years both before after and during elections even in the USA

Hampton lawyer David Lutz campaigns for Hillary Clinton in Florida

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/lutz-clinton-campaign-1.3840604

David Lutz aims to raise $200K to sponsor Syrian refugees

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/david-lutz-syrian-refugees-saint-john-1.3246852

Justin Bourque case not being taken up by N.B. Law Society

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-bourque-case-not-being-taken-up-by-n-b-law-society-1.3004419

CBC should block this comment after these are all ther articles

John Dirlik
John Dirlik
@David Raymond Amos
"Tell that nonsense to the New York Times and their buddies in CNN etc who supported Hillary Clinton"

As I've already explained, the corporate media cheered for war hawk Clinton only because it regarded Trump as too much of a loose cannon.

George Lewis
George Lewis
@John Dirlik keeps writing ""Left wing media"? Pure unadulterated myth."

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& keeps ignoring the position/bias of our MSM on

- Climate change
- the oil sands
- Liberla robo-calls
- Liberal senators/scandals - Harb/Levigne/Fairbanks...
- Trump/Hillary
- Harper/Trudeau
- Israel/Iran

If John's theory was right, then our MSM

(which includes CBC/Global/CTV (echo chambers of each other), The Toronto Star & others)

would sound more like Fox/The Rebel.

Instead they sound like their left wing counterparts in The U.S. - CNN/MSNBC,

Proving that John's theory is pure unadulterated unsupported unproved/disproven myth.

What John is really saying is that he wants a news media that would be more favourable to Iran's regime.

& obviously Fox & The Rebel aren't.

Typically the further left a news media outlet is, the more favourable they are to "U.S./Israel-Hating" Iran.

& that's basically what it boils down to for at least one person here.

George Lewis
George Lewis
@John Dirlik wrote "As I've already explained, the corporate media cheered for war hawk Clinton only because it regarded Trump as too much of a loose cannon."

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Just because you've expressed your opinion/bias doesn't make it true.

You are no authority/academic/thought leader.

Can you show us when CNN ever "cheered" for any true Republican Presidential Candidate?

Because your comment makes it sound as though this was an exception because of Trump.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@John Dirlik I pretty hard to respond when CBC blocks one's comments half the time Perhaps you should read my other comment within this thread?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@George Lewis I agree


Ally Marilar 
Ally Marilar
The NDP doesn't stand a snow ball's chance in winning the election in 2019. They never have.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Ally Marilar "The NDP doesn't stand a snow ball's chance in winning the election in 2019"

True but if they get enough votes the Conservatives will get back in just like they did with the 41st Parliament


Ally Marilar
 Myles Grant
The growth in NDP memberships should give the federal Libs something to think about.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Myles Grant "The growth in NDP memberships should give the federal Libs something to think about."

You can bet dimes to dollars they are


Ally Marilar   
John Hawkwood
The NDP are guided by principles that make no economic sense and therefore make no sense for anyone, the rich nor the poor nor the middle class. They have wrecked Alberta very quickly and are now busy wrecking BC.


Lind Fancs
Lind Fancs
@John Hawkwood

And how are they going to be any worse than Trudeau's Liberals?
I recall "modest deficits" and a return to balanced budgets by 2019/20.
Then again, I also recall something about ELECTORAL REFORM being spouted by the Libs as well...


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Lind Fancs You really don't believe what any politician promises do ya?


Ralph Fiennes 
Ralph Fiennes
I wonder if there might be a major increase in membership due to an ethnic/visible minority candidate.


Edward Vella
Edward Vella
@Ralph Fiennes I hope so. Singh is a breath of fresh air IMO.

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Edward Vella Jagmeet Singh is just another slick criminal defense lawyer to me


 Edward Vella 
Al Heywood

NDP voters, who held their nose and voted liberal, are tired of Justin Trudeau's broken promises - the end is near for irresponsible liberal governments.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Al Heywood And if they vote NDP next time perhaps the Conservatives will win and then nobody wins for four more years


Amy G. Bahned 
Amy G. Bahned
Charlie Angus for the win!


Amy G. Bahned
Amy G. Bahned
@Jackie Claxton

It's a nuanced issue. I'm far more supportive of pipelines for domestic consumption than I am for export pipelines.

I'm not 100% in favour or opposed to pipelines. That would be silly.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Amy G. Bahned Perhaps you should have listened to my debates in the last Federal Election with New Brunswick's newest NDP leader
David Raymond Amos
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David Raymond Amos
@Amy G. Bahned Perhaps you should type my name into Google sometime when you are bored

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos A rhetorical question to myself.

Why would CBC block the comment above if they were truly non-partisan?

Oh I forgot their minions are unionized N'esy Pas?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@David Raymond Amos I guess I will have to wait until the the comment section closes to see if my last 3 comments are allowed to published in a Crown Corp's website financed by my tax dollars. N'esy Pas?

In The "Mean" Time Thanks for some semblance of ethics for posting the comment above


Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....) 
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
As the third and smallest Party of the 'Big Three', perhaps the NDP should focus their campaign on delivering what the Libs only gave lip-service to,.....removing the FPTP and introducing a representative voting system.

Many people were swayed to vote Liberal by that broken promise, along with the terror of more of the Conservative's dismantling of the country, and/or the support for a Party condoning the 'information' garnered through human torture. Seize on the Liberal lie and bring a reform to our woeful current voting model that only accommodates the wealthiest.

There is the crux of the NDP's rise to challenge the status quo political system where both Libs and Cons only listen to lobby groups,....change the system and those ears closed to the commoners will begin to open for them.


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....) I disagree the liberals got the lions share of votes because folks had had enough of Harper and they did not trust Mulcair plus Trudeau the Younger promised to legalize dope. It truly was just that simple


 Lind Fancs 
Lind Fancs
The next election could be very good for the NDP given Trudeau's long, long list of broken "promises".
You know, like electoral reform...


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Lind Fancs "The next election could be very good for the NDP"

Wanna bet?

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Lind Fancs Trust that I had lots to say about electoral reform

https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/ERRE/meeting-39/minutes



Lind Fancs 
Fletch Peterson
Tripled the membership? Seems the NDP who voted liberal are coming back home..


Peter Samson
Peter Samson
@Fletch Peterson Or it's just the natural growth coming from an internal election.... You may have read the part in the article about how this was still lower than the last party leadership vote. You know, the one that preceded them coming a distant third at the Federal level?

Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....)
Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....) @Peter Samson

Re: "You may have read the part in the article about how this was still lower than the last party leadership vote. You know, the one that preceded them coming a distant third at the Federal level?"
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Not quite right. The article states that when they had more members than this time, they became the Official Opposition, not, as you stated, "....coming a distant third at the Federal level?"

The NDP came in second that election. As written in this paragraph from the above article;

"That represents significant growth from the 41,000 members the party says it had in March. It is down only slightly from the 128,351 members who were eligible to vote in the leadership contest that selected Tom Mulcair as Jack Layton's replacement in 2012, when the party formed the official opposition."


David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Peter Samson I agree

David Raymond Amos
David Raymond Amos
@Dave Jannes (also known as...Mrs. Grundy's....) Perhaps you should read your own quotes again

 


Liberals assess North Korea's threat daily, says Trudeau after shot over Japan

'These are things that endanger not just regional stability but world peace,' said Trudeau

By Mike Blanchfield, The Canadian Press Posted: Aug 29, 2017 6:47 PM ET 

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau responds to a questions during a joint media availability with King Abdullah ll of Jordan on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Tuesday saying North Korea's missile test is "an issue that is of concern to us daily..."
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau responds to a questions during a joint media availability with King Abdullah ll of Jordan on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Tuesday saying North Korea's missile test is "an issue that is of concern to us daily..." (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Canada is conducting daily threat assessments of North Korea's provocative missile tests, including its most recent blast over Japan, Justin Trudeau said Tuesday.

But the prime minister steered clear of a divisive security issue that has long had domestic political ramifications: the U.S. missile shield for North America, which successive governments have avoided for more than a decade.

Trudeau and Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland criticized North Korea's latest missile test as a threat to world peace, and urged a diplomatic solution to the escalating nuclear crisis.

"These are things that endanger not just regional stability but world peace," Trudeau said in French as he hosted Jordan's King Abdullah in Ottawa.

"This is an issue that is of concern to us daily and we will continue day by day to continue what we need to do keep Canadians safe."

Trudeau said last week that Canada's "long-standing" position on staying out of the U.S. missile defence program would not be changing any time soon.

The issue has resurfaced since a North Korean launch in early July raised the possibility the country had created an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching North America.

"North Korea's reckless violation of its neighbours' territorial sovereignty and its direct threat to Japan's citizens have threatened both regional and international peace and security," Freeland said in a statement Tuesday.

Freeland called on North Korea to "resume dialogue toward a political solution."

Ballistic missile defence


The latest in a series of missile tests came as South Korea and the U.S. conducted war games in the region.
U.S. President Donald Trump, who had a 40-minute conversation with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, said all options are on the table.

Last week, the House of Commons defence committee held a rare summer sitting to discuss North Korea and whether Canada should consider joining the U.S. ballistic missile defence shield.

The issue has been a volatile one in Canadian politics since the Liberal government of Paul Martin in 2005 surprised the then-Bush administration with its decision to opt out of the Pentagon's proposed BMD program.

Martin was leading a short-lived minority government, and joining the U.S. missile shield was unpopular in Quebec. Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper also steered clear of the issue when it arose during his near-decade in power.

At least one current Liberal MP and one former senator have said Canada should consider joining the program.

Leading Canadian experts remain divided.

North Korea moving fast


Fen Hampson, director of the global security program at the Centre for International Governance Innovation, said the government should undertake a careful analysis of the idea, since North Korea's evolving capabilities are testing old assumptions.

A decade ago, there was a "strong strategic rationale" for not joining the U.S. program because it could be seen as "undermining deterrence or getting into an escalating arms race," he said.

That was then.

"North Korea has exceeded every expectation in terms of its ability to both develop nuclear weapons — they're obviously moving quickly to miniaturize them — and developing intercontinental missile capability."

South Korea North Korea Missiles
South Korean army's K-9 self-propelled howitzers move on the street in Paju, South Korea, Tuesday, Aug. 29, 2017. (Associated Press/Le Jin-man)

Douglas Roche, a former Canadian senator disarmament ambassador, said there's no way Canada should reconsider ballistic missile defence because the technology doesn't work and it does nothing to encourage nuclear armed states to cut back their arsenals.

"It's a stimulant to the nuclear arms race," Roche said. "That's the worst thing Canada could do in the current crisis."

Roche said the government needs to articulate a clearer approach to curbing nuclear proliferation than was laid out by Freeland in her major speech on Canada's foreign policy in June.

"It was full of a lot of good things but it didn't really seize the moment," he said. "The pillars of global security are arms control and disarmament, economic and social development, environmental protection and human rights."

Canada's recently released defence policy acknowledges the threat posed by North Korea, but does not specifically deal with the question of whether Canada should consider joining a U.S.-led ballistic missile defence program.

The policy said the government planned to discuss with the U.S. ways to improve continental defences against several threats, including ballistic missiles.

NDP triples its membership to 124,000 in run-up to party's leadership vote

The party had 128,351 eligible members in 2012 leadership race, when it formed the official opposition

By Ã‰ric Grenier, CBC News Posted: Aug 29, 2017 1:28 PM ET 

The first round of voting for the NDP leadership opens on Sept. 18, with the results announced on Oct. 1.
The first round of voting for the NDP leadership opens on Sept. 18, with the results announced on Oct. 1. (Codie McLachlan/Canadian Press) 

There will be more than 124,000 members eligible to vote for the next leader of the New Democrats, according to figures released by the federal party on Tuesday.

That represents significant growth from the 41,000 members the party says it had in March. It is down only slightly from the 128,351 members who were eligible to vote in the leadership contest that selected Tom Mulcair as Jack Layton's replacement in 2012, when the party formed the official opposition.

The party added about 83,000 members over the last few months, primarily in the run-up to the eligibility deadline in August. In 2012, the party added about 45,000 members to its rolls during the course of the leadership campaign.

The party is still finalizing its count. The provincial breakdown from the party adds up to 123,798 eligible members, though the party says that number will top 124,000 once the final verifications are complete.

Ontario's membership up, Quebec's down


Ontario boasts the biggest cohort of eligible voters at about 52,000, representing 42 per cent of the total membership. That is up from the 29 per cent share Ontario had in 2012's vote, potentially good news for the two Ontario candidates in the race, Charlie Angus and Jagmeet Singh.

For Robin MacLachlan, a vice president at Summa Strategies, the numbers suggest an advantage for Singh.
"The combined numbers in B.C. and Ontario — where [Singh] has had the most activity, traction and endorsements — suggest he has delivered an impressive number of new members," he said.

In a tweet, Singh claimed that his campaign had signed up over 47,000 members, including more than 30,000 in Ontario and 10,000 in B.C. While the party can't verify that number, if true it would represent 38 per cent of all eligible party voters.

British Columbia's total share of the membership fell to 26 per cent from 30 per cent in 2012, numbering around 32,000. Alberta has just over 10,000 members, no different than where it stood in 2012 before NDP Premier Rachel Notley's provincial victory in 2015.

Leadership contestant Niki Ashton's home province of Manitoba has just over 10,000 members as well, down about 2,000 members from 2012.

Quebec saw the biggest drop, falling from 12,000 members (10 per cent) in 2012 to just under 5,000 (or four per cent) in this leadership race. This could put a dent in Quebec MP Guy Caron's chances to win the leadership.

The New Democrats share membership between their federal and provincial parties, so not all new members were necessarily signed up in the context of the federal leadership contest. Leadership races are also underway in Saskatchewan and Manitoba, while another recently came to a close in New Brunswick.

Comparisons to other leadership votes


The Conservative Party had 259,010 eligible members in its May leadership vote, while the Liberals had 294,002 so-called "supporters" in the 2013 campaign that resulted in Justin Trudeau taking the helm of the party.

Unlike the Conservatives and the NDP (with the exception of Newfoundland and Labrador, where NDP membership is free), the Liberals do not have a fee for membership. In the end, just under 131,000 Liberal supporters registered to vote in the 2013 leadership contest.

In 2012, just over 65,000 NDP members, or 51 per cent of eligible voters, cast a ballot in that campaign's first round of voting — a number which might have been impacted by problems the party had with its online voting system. Turnout in the Conservative leadership race was about 141,000, or 55 per cent, while 80 per cent of registered voters (though just 36 per cent of supporters) participated in the 2013 Liberal leadership.

The first round of voting for the NDP leadership begins on Sept. 18, with members able to cast their ballots online and through the mail. The first round results will be announced on Oct. 1 in Toronto.

Up to two more week-long rounds of voting will be held until one candidate receives a majority of ballots cast, with the last place candidate being eliminated after each round. If required, the results of the second round will be announced on Oct. 8 in Montreal and the third round results on Oct. 15 in Ottawa.

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