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Steve Whitaker

Trump was never fit for office and never will be.

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Lou Parks

@Steve Whitaker

>>Trump was never fit for office and never will be.

Neither are most of the high-ranking Democrats, however

Victor Cretu

@Steve Whitaker

Your "unfit" President is just making a 3% annual GDP growth for the USA.
It didn't happen since 2005.

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David Amos

@Victor Cretu Methinks many Yankees must have figured out by now that Mr Mueller went a bridge too far when he attacked the sneaky lawyer Mikey Cohen N'esy Pas?

Patrick Smyth

@Victor Cretu

"Your "unfit" President is just making a 3% annual GDP growth for the USA.
It didn't happen since 2005."

That's what happens when someone makes policy to make things look good NOW at the expense of LATER. He's in his 70s and his kids are rich beyond belief. Nobody he knows or cares about will be hurt by his myopic and self serving policies.

Lou Parks

@David Amos

Hey Dave!
What's that "N'esy Pas" nonsense all about?

Lou Parks

@Patrick Smyth

Dubious and vague allegations

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David Amos

@Lou Parks "What's that "N'esy Pas" nonsense all about?"

Methinks the Chief of the Amos Clan should be tired of explaining teasing the Quebecker Trudeau The Younger and his buddy in my stomping grounds Dominic Leblanc with old English and Chiac to people who do not bother to read what comes between those two wo words N'esy Pas?

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David Amos

@Lou Parks Methinks it is rather ironic that you call my comments nonsense in light of the fact that I often agree with yours N'esy Pas?

Lou Parks 

@David Amos

>> Methinks the Chief of the Amos Clan ...

Meaning you, right?

>> ... should be tired of explaining teasing the Quebecker Trudeau The Younger and his buddy in my stomping grounds Dominic Leblanc ...

So you are teasing them?

>> ... with old English and Chiac ...

Your nonsensical "N'esy Pas" would be
"old English and Chiac", according to you?
Methinks not

>> ... to people ...

Which would include me

>> who do not bother to read what comes between those two wo words N'esy Pas?

What?
"What comes between those two ... words"?
All I see is a space — that comes
between "those two words"

Lou Parks

@Lee Hall

>> Trump was bombing and droning at record levels.

Nope.
You got the wrong president
for those "record levels"

>> Especially in Afghanistan.

You are mixing up different time periods
with different presidents.

Trump is the least militarily active president
of the past several presidents

>> Trump is the best ally the military industrial complex could ask for.

Only funding-wise.
He is not asking much action-wise from it.

>> As he is currently doing his best to start a war with Iran.

But that "best" of his is
nothing compared to
G.W. Bush's "best"

Ken Likness

@Steve Whitaker
'simple private transaction,'
that can only be perceived as an attempt to cover up indiscretion(s) that might prove him unworthy of public office; and which in so offerring further suggests him to be immoral and self indulgent.

ALEX Chiasson

@Steve Whitaker That is why he won I suppose. He just wasn't the right person for the job, eh?

Marguerite Deschamps

@ALEX Chiasson, he won because of the Wizard's first rule: "People are stupid".

James Holden

@ALEX Chiasson

He 'won' due to Republican State cheating and his special friend Vlad.

Peter Samson

@Troy Mann The purpose of the Mueller investigation was to investigate collusion between Trump (or his campaign) and Russia. The most serious charge to date is a possible campaign finance violation regarding the NDAs for a couple former mistresses. Not exactly collusion. Flynn was charged with a Logan act violation and lying to the FBI- again, not collusion, and Manafort was found guilty of bank fraud and tax evasion. Now, I accept that this wasn't "useless" in the sense that it's accomplished something, but it does mean the Mueller investigation doesn't appear to be any closer to finding collusion (possibly because there wasn't any) than it was 2 years ago. If all the investigation uncovers is some shady payoffs and some bank fraud then it would appear more like a fishing expedition than an investigation. Maybe Mueller has something on Trump and is just playing it close to the vest until he gets his ducks in a row, and if he provides evidence of collusion I'll be happy to assess that when the time comes, but you also have to accept the possibility that there was no collusion, that Trump won the election honestly, and Mueller's got nothing.

Troy Mann

@Peter Samson

You are the one who is making a claim on what Mueller has, not I my friend.

You state you are happy to assess once the report is issued yet you also prejudge by stating he has nothing. You cant say both.

I personally believe these investigations are tough and very time consuming, so the timeline for them is not as simple as you want us to believe. I also have never heard of an investigator issuing statements about evidence they have on hand during an investigation which is what you desire.

Frankly, I believe Trump is guilty based on the information we all have which is about 1/10th that of Muellers. But I will await final judgment for Mueller and believe he should take time necessary to discover the truth. Guilty or not, I will not make a claim this is a waste of money like you have.

Peter Samson

@Troy Mann No where have I stated anything regarding what Mueller does or does not have on Trump. Read my comments again and you'll see I'm very specific, I speculate that he possibly doesn't have anything, but even that is only used in conjunction with the common belief that he definitely does have something. It is useless to speculate on what Mueller does or doesn't have. All we can go by is the information in front of us right now and based solely on that Trump's going to be fine. There's currently zero evidence in front of us of collusion, and even Mueller's own information doesn't seem to indicate that he has anything with regards to collusion. The only charge that may stick is the campaign finance violation and that is going to be difficult to make stick and even more difficult to prove. If Mueller has more then I'll happily assess the information as it comes in but at this point it seems that most people either assume that he does have something or just hope that he does.

Sandy Gillis

@Lou Parks
I've found a few articles which report an increase in airstrikes, and a sharp increase in civilian casualties, so far in Trump's presidency. Here's one:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-us-civilian-deaths-iraq-syria-isis-coalition-bombing-a8180331.html

Mark Tynthof

@Leo Johnson You are mistaken. The hush money charge was not by the Special Counsel Mueller but by the Southern District of New York, and it was revealed by Trump's own lawyer who managed the deal, Cohen. The only reason it is illegal is because it was done to influence the election.

David R. Amos

@Marguerite Deschamps "People are stupid".

Methinks Hillary could not fool enough of them N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Troy Mann "I will await final judgment for Mueller and believe he should take time necessary to discover the truth"

Methinks you already know about Mueller and I N'esy Pas?

Wayne West

so sick of Trump and his minions.

Lou Parks

@Wayne West

But it's similar on the Democrat side
— full of dirty tricks and dishonesty

David Novak

@Lou Parks - The Clintons have been persecuted by the Republicans for more than 20 years. How has that worked out so far? Zero indictments and zero convictions. Trump so far? Seven guilty pleas and convictions in less than 2 years.

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Lou Parks

@David Novak

>> The Clintons have been persecuted by the Republicans for more than 20 years. How has that worked out so far? Zero indictments and zero convictions.

You omitted: one impeachment.

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Rick Green

@David Novak

@Lou Parks - The Clintons have been persecuted by the Republicans for more than 20 years. How has that worked out so far? Zero indictments and zero conviction"

Look up two tier justice.

Just one example,

There are people who Mueller has indicted and there are others in jail for lying under oath.

In the congressional hearings Trey Gowdy exposes numerous instances where Clinton has done just that.

You can find them them them on youtube.

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David Amos

@Lou Parks "You omitted: one impeachment."

Methinks you forgot how much their tainted blood cost us N'esy Pas?

David R. Amos

@Lou Parks "full of dirty tricks and dishonesty"

It appears that they are not the only ones N'esy Pas?

 

Maxim Verite

"Republican senator says more information needed to render judgment on Trump’s fitness for office"

How much more evidence do they need??????

Peter Samson

@Lon Chaney "Mueller does not work at CNN...."

This is true but Mueller hasn't provided any evidence against Trump. You might argue that "where there's smoke there's fire" and I wouldn't disagree with you but at this point no evidence of collusion has been provided. If and when evidence is brought forward then it can be examined but it's not fair to presume the evidence exists.

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David Amos

@Peter Samson "If and when evidence is brought forward then it can be examined but it's not fair to presume the evidence exists.""

I agree

Peter Samson

@David Allan I assume by your "Individual 1" comment you're referring to the SDNY's case against Cohen that is likely gearing up towards a run at Trump for campaign finance violations? a) this has nothing to do with Russia or collusion. b) there's zero chance this will happen while Trump is in office, either the Dem's will use these charges to launch impeachment proceedings or SDNY will hit Trump with charges when he leaves office. Again, this has nothing to do with Russia or collusion so that's important to keep in perspective, and the charges are very unlikely to stick. Campaign finance violations have a very high standard of evidence, it would require Trump to knowingly break the law, not just be ignorant of it (which is more likely the case). Now, whether the Dems can sufficiently leverage the Cohen case into impeachment remains to be seen but it seems unlikely given what we know thus far. Now if Mueller has something else to provide then that may tip the scales but if things play out as they are now then this could end up being a boost for Trump as unsuccessful impeachment proceedings tend to rile up the base.

Clifton Tremblay

@Peter Samson In case you didn't notice, his work is not done yet.

Mark Tynthof

@Lou Parks Something substantial such as hundreds of millions of dollars Trump stood to gain from a Trump Tower Moscow deal with the Kremlin, during the time in Russia rigged the election in Trump's favour, and his security advisor told Russia that sanctions would be dropped, and Trump's son agreed in exchange for dirt on his opponent? Or what would YOU classify as substantial?

David R. Amos

@Peter Samson "If and when evidence is brought forward then it can be examined but it's not fair to presume the evidence exists.""

I agree

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David R. Amos

@Mark Tynthof "Or what would YOU classify as substantial?"

The first few pages of this old file are substantial

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER

 
Shawn Wylie

Whatever it is that Putin has on Trump I think scares him more than impeachment.

 Lou Parks

@Shawn Wylie

Inaccurate.
E͟v͟e͟r͟y͟t͟h͟i͟n͟g͟ scares him more than impeachment because
impeachment worries him less than anything else at all.

David Amos

@Lou Parks Mais Oui

Ken Douglas

Early in the 2016 campaign, Republican candidate Donald Trump insisted that the election was rigged.

Now we know why he knew it.

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Lou Parks

@Ken Douglas

Hushing ancient incidents of no relevance whatsoever
to a presidency is hardly "rigging" anything,
even less a presidential election

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David Amos

@Lou Parks C'est Vrai

Byron Melchford

You have to wonder how badly Trump has to behave before Americans can't take it any more. There has to be a basic level of dignity for the office, doesn't there?

George Halbert McKinney

@Tamara Jae "Trudeau is a reality show? "

My reading of the comment from @Sue Northfield (" Yes I applaud Trudeau ... ") is that Sue is implying that Trudeau is NOT part of a reality show, and that he is ridiculed for it.

Given how unclear most comments here are, I could be wrong,

David Amos

@George Halbert McKinney "Given how unclear most comments here are, I could be wrong,"

Trump and Trudeau are the ringmasters of two very real Circuses that my Clan is paying far too dearly for on both sides of the medicine line.

Methinks I have made it clear where I stand N'esy Pas?

Lon Chaney

good to see Trump's wife and children support him for supporting Stormy....

.

Lou Parks

@Lon Chaney

Supporting Stormy?
You don't seem to know what's going on

Jurgen Hissen

@Lou Parks
I think he means financially, Lou.

Lon Chaney

@Lou Parks
go back to bed lou

David Amos

@Jurgen Hissen LMAO

  

James Brown

Trump for prison 2020...

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Lou Parks

@James Brown

For what?
What of relevance would he be guilty of, according to you?

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robert williams

@Lou Parks
Hey Lou, are you Trumps intellectually challenged son named Eric?

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David Amos

@robert williams Methinks its truly amazing what comments are blocked while ones such as yours are permitted and actually liked N'esy Pas?

 

Ken Douglas

If someone is caught cheating to win the election why would they have to even impeach them?
Anyone caught lying on a job application is simply terminated.

Lou Parks

@Ken Douglas

>> Anyone caught lying on a job application is simply terminated.

False generalisation.
It depends on the circumstances

William deKatt

@Lou Parks

>> Anyone caught lying on a job application is simply terminated.

False generalisation.
It depends on the circumstances

Yes, for most jobs, it is termination. For politicians, it is a requirement....

 

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David Amos

@William deKatt I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir

David R. Amos

@William deKatt I Wholeheartedly Agree Sir

  

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Reid Fleming

It'll be a day of celebration when they escort tRump from the oval office to the oral penitentiary...

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Lou Parks

@Reid Fleming

You mean a few seconds of celebration,
until the alternatives come into focus

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Richard Paquette

@Lou Parks
Sorry Lou, your alternative could be a chimp, that we be bigly better,

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David Amos

@Lou Parks Methinks folks would be wise to be wary of Pence N'esy Pas?

 

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Lou Parks

@David Amos

You are correct,
except for your
irritating chronic repetition of
"N'esy Pas"

Top Democrats raise prospect of impeachment and jail time for Trump

Republican senator says more information needed to judge Trump’s fitness for office

The Associated Press · Posted: Dec 10, 2018 8:09 AM ET 

U.S. House judiciary committee ranking member Jerry Nadler, a Democrat from New York, says he believes it would be an 'impeachable offence' if it's proved that U.S. President Donald Trump directed illegal hush-money payments to women during the 2016 presidential campaign. (Carolyn Kaster/Associated Press)

Senior Democrats in the House of Representatives have raised the prospect of impeachment or prison time for U.S. President Donald Trump if it's proved that he directed illegal hush-money payments to women, adding to the legal pressure on the U.S. president over the Russia investigation and other scandals.

"There's a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him, that he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time," said Rep. Adam Schiff, incoming chair of the House intelligence committee. "The bigger pardon question may come down the road as the next president has to determine whether to pardon Donald Trump."

• Trump did nothing wrong, White House says after Cohen's guilty plea

• Analysis
  These key lines from Mueller's court filing on Cohen reveal more about his Trump-Russia probe

Rep. Jerry Nadler, incoming chairman of the House judiciary committee, described the details in prosecutors' filings on Friday in the case of Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, as evidence that Trump was "at the centre of a massive fraud."
 
"They would be impeachable offences," Nadler said.

In the filings, prosecutors in New York for the first time link Trump to a federal crime of illegal payments to buy the silence of two women during the 2016 campaign. Special counsel Robert Mueller's office also laid out previously undisclosed contacts between Trump associates and Russian intermediaries, and suggested the Kremlin aimed early on to influence Trump and his Republican campaign by playing to both his political and personal business interests.

Trump has denied wrongdoing and has compared the investigations to a "witch hunt." On Monday, he defended the alleged hush-money payments, saying Democrats were wrongly targeting "a simple private transaction."

Awaiting Mueller report

Nadler, a Democrat from New York, said it was too early to say whether Congress would pursue
impeachment proceedings based on the illegal payments alone because lawmakers would need to weigh the gravity of the offence to justify "overturning" the 2016 election.

Nadler and other lawmakers said Sunday they would await additional details from Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference and possible co-ordination with the Trump campaign to determine the extent of Trump's misconduct.

U.S. President Donald Trump greets people after arriving via Air Force One at Philadelphia International Airport on Saturday. Trump has denied wrongdoing and has compared investigations into his presidential campaign to a 'witch hunt.' (Susan Walsh/Associated Press)

Regarding the illegal payments, "whether they are important enough to justify an impeachment is a different question, but certainly they'd be impeachable offences because even though they were committed before the president became president, they were committed in the service of fraudulently obtaining the office," Nadler said.

Mueller has not said when he will complete a report of any findings, and it isn't clear that any such report would be made available to Congress. That would be up to the attorney general. Trump on Friday said he would nominate former attorney general William Barr to the post to succeed Jeff Sessions.

​

Nadler indicated that Democrats, who will control the House in January, will step up their own investigations. He said Congress, the Justice Department and the special counsel need to dig deeper into the allegations, which include questions about whether Trump lied about his business arrangements with Russians and about possible obstruction of justice.

"The new Congress will not try to shield the president," he said. "We will try to get to the bottom of this, in order to serve the American people and to stop this massive conspiracy — this massive fraud on the American people."

Schiff, of California, also stressed a need to wait "until we see the full picture." He has previously indicated his panel would seek to look into the Trump family's business ties with Russia.

"I think we also need to see this as a part of a broader pattern of potential misconduct by the president, and it's that broad pattern, I think, that will lead us to a conclusion about whether it rises to the level to warrant removal from office," Schiff said.

Offer of 'political synergy'

In the legal filings, the Justice Department stopped short of accusing Trump of directly committing a crime. But it said Trump told Cohen to make illegal payments to porn actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal, both of whom have claimed they had affairs with Trump more than a decade ago.
 
In separate filings, Mueller's team details how Cohen spoke to a Russian who "claimed to be a 'trusted person' in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign 'political synergy' and 'synergy on a government level."' Cohen said he never followed up on that meeting. Mueller's team also said former campaign chairman Paul Manafort lied to them about his contacts with a Russian associate and Trump administration officials, including in 2018.

The best way to solve a problem like this, to me, is elections.- Sen. Angus King

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida called the latest filings "relevant" in judging Trump's fitness for office, but said lawmakers need more information to render judgment. He also warned the White House about considering a pardon for Manafort, saying such a step could trigger congressional debate about limiting a president's pardon powers.

Such a move would be "a terrible mistake," Rubio said. "Pardons should be used judiciously. They're used for cases with extraordinary circumstances."

Sen. Angus King, an independent from Maine and a member of the Senate intelligence committee, cautioned against a rush to impeachment, which he said citizens could interpret as "political revenge and a coup against the president."

"The best way to solve a problem like this, to me, is elections," King said. "I'm a conservative when it comes to impeachment. I think it's a last resort and only when the evidence is clear of a really substantial legal violation. We may get there, but we're not there now."

• Analysis
  'The noose is tightening': 5 takeaways from Michael Cohen's plea deal — and what it means for Trump

• Analysis
  How Cohen's plea deal and Manafort's conviction spawned 'the worst day of Trump's presidency so far'

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut urged Mueller to "show his cards soon" so that Congress can make a determination early next year on whether to act on impeachment.

"Let's be clear: We have reached a new level in the investigation," Murphy said. "It's important for Congress to get all of the underlying facts and data and evidence that the special counsel has."

Nadler spoke on CNN's State of the Union on Sunday, Rubio was on CNN and ABC's This Week, and Schiff appeared on CBS's Face the Nation. Murphy spoke on ABC, and King was on NBC's Meet the Press.

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