Methinks this CBC "News" article speaks volumes about the selfish snobs in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?

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Methinks this CBC "News" article speaks volumes about the selfish snobs in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?

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 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/out-of-the-cold-shelter-fredericton-1.4940655

Some residents disgruntled by emergency shelter, says Fredericton doctor

A decision on whether a downtown shelter will continue to operate until March will take place Wednesday

Elizabeth Fraser · CBC News · Posted: Dec 11, 2018 10:19 AM AT 

Dr. Sara Davidson is hoping the winter shelter on Brunswick Street will stay in place until March. (CBC)


A Fredericton doctor says some people in the community are upset over the city's temporary out-of-the-cold shelter.

Although there haven't been any formal complaints about the Bishop's Court shelter, Dr. Sara Davidson, a local doctor who is involved with the shelter, said she was concerned when organizers learned someone wanted to shut it down.

"The person wasn't being terribly aggressive but they were saying very clearly that, 'This is my intent,'" she said.   



"We were all taken aback."

She said the complaint came in during the day last week while organizers were getting ready for the next group of people to stay the night.

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Davidson said she hasn't heard about any complaints since then.

"It fortunately didn't happen when any of the guests were staying there," she said.

"It became obvious that there were some disgruntled people in the community, but it wasn't mounting to this big snowball."

Davidson took to Facebook to share her concerns and to encourage people to show their support for the shelter at a municipal committee meeting on Wednesday, which will determine whether the shelter will continue to run until March.

Sara Davidson

on Sunday

The Out of the Cold Shelter has housed 20 people per night. My patients who stay there describe having a coffee, a shower, then going to sleep. I heard today a small but likely well organized group of people from the neighbourhood are planning on 'shutting it down' at the PAC meeting this coming Wed Dec 12 at 7pm at City Hall, not because anything has gone wrong, not because damage has occurred to their property, but because they find the very idea of homeless people having s...
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"I heard today a small but likely well organized group of people from the neighbourhood are planning on 'shutting it down' … not because anything has gone wrong, not because damage has occurred to their property, but because they find the very idea of homeless people having shelter in their neighbourhood distasteful," read the Facebook post.

Since Sunday, the post has received more than 600 shares on Facebook.

The emergency shelter has been open for just over a week and has been at capacity the past few nights. Most of the guests have been women.

The shelter can house up to 20 people, who are invited to come inside, have a shower, grab a coffee and something to eat and then rest for the night.

An information session

 

The former Anglican bishop's house has been converted into an emergency shelter. (Philip Drost/CBC)

Davidson said organizers held a meeting for residents on Tuesday, and people in the area were able to ask questions about the shelter and organizers could explain what it's all about.

"It was a good chance for people in the neighbourhood who had questions," she said.

"They're actually walking a bit of a tightrope of, 'Well I actually don't want people freezing to death but I also have concerns and questions because it happened very quickly,'" she said.

It's a pretty quiet and sedate place overall.- Dr. Sara Davidson

Davidson said the shelter is working closely with police and a mental health action team, in case a person is harmful to themselves or others.

"We would handle just as we would anywhere involving the right authorities to support that person," she said.

But for the most part, Davidson said residents in the area haven't noticed the shelter is there.
"It's a pretty quiet and sedate place overall," she said.

With files from Information Morning Fredericton

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53 Comments 

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stephen blunston

I am so ashamed of my beautiful city , when people are against this temp winter shelter to keep people alive and well for no other reason than they think they are to good to have homeless in their area .. if they are not damaging anything or being rowdy just shut up and let these people be . must be a bunch of rich hypocrytes totally disgusting

 
Harold Benson

How come some of us stoners never ended up in those decision making jobs ?

Harold Benson

@Harold Benson *you*

David R. Amos

@Harold Benson Methinks "you" and Sam were simply not paying attention N'esy Pas?

  
Cathy Stafford

""I heard today a small but likely well organized group of people from the neighbourhood are planning on 'shutting it down' Who did she hear it from? What did the person actually say? Just exactly what is everyone getting excited about? Heresay? Inuendo?

David R. Amos

@Cathy Stafford Methinks its good gossip N'esy Pas?

 
Fred Dee

sad to see the primary comment here is attack the person who is against it.

Find out what the issues are first! Maybe they can be easily solved.....

David R. Amos

@Fred Dee Dream on

Jeff LeBlanc

@Fred Dee it's not sad, in fact the world needs less people who think that way. Wouldn't miss them one bit.

  
Fred Knox

Identify those that want the shelter closed for all to see their neighbors true colors.

David R. Amos

@Fred Knox I will lay odds that we will never know

stephen blunston

@Fred Knox I agree maybe we can all go stand outside there house and actually give them something to whine and complain about

  
Pam McInnis McCann

People are upset (and rightfully so) when animals are left out in sub zero temperatures for too long. And some people think it's acceptable for people to sleep outside in the winter? This shelter is much needed in the winter. It opens at 8PM and closes at 7:30 AM each day. Guests must leave in the morning. No one hangs out in "the neighbourhood" all day. It's just hard to imagine someone wanting to close this place down.

David R. Amos

@Pam McInnis McCann Methinks you don't know Fat Fred City like I know Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?

  
Jeff LeBlanc

Man I hope this group gets outed for all to see

David R. Amos

@Jeff LeBlanc Me Too

Mary MacKenzie

@Jeff LeBlanc So that some vigilantes can go harass them?

Jeff LeBlanc

@Mary MacKenzie wouldn't bother me one bit if they did. The world needs less people with mindsets like that. We would all be better off.

 
Darren J Taylor

What kind of miserable, self-absorbed human being takes issue with another human being given shelter in the dead of winter??

Jeff LeBlanc

@Darren J Taylor the kind that need to be outed for the world to make fun of

Cathy Stafford

@Darren J Taylor Anonymous, no name people.

David R. Amos

@Darren J Taylor Welcome to the Circus

  
John Haigh

I know where I'm headed on New Years when I can't find a cab ride home.

David R. Amos

@John Haigh Methinks you just upset some folks N'esy Pas?

 
Jason Inness

Fredericton, the capital of NIMBYism for the entire maritimes.

Instead of putting effort into having a homeless shelter shut down, maybe these people should look into addressing the root causes of homelessness so the need for the shelter goes away.

Anybody campaigning against a homeless shelter a few weeks before Christmas should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

David R. Amos

@Jason Inness I agree

Mary MacKenzie

@Jason Inness It's government's responsibility, not the homeowners.

Eva McLaughlin

@Jason Inness Well said.

Lynn Ronan

@Jason Inness Some people really don't give a **** about anyone but themselves.

David R. Amos

@Lynn Ronan I agree

  
Paul Richardson

Not in back yard attitude.

David R. Amos

@Paul Richardson Its the way of the world

Lynn Ronan

@David R. Amos Yes, there is a simple word for.....selfishness.

David R. Amos

@Lynn Ronan True

  
Howard Smith

Good story with lots of feelings but no facts? The reporter should do better.

David R. Amos

@Howard Smith YUP

  
cheryl wright

i am hoping that the reason there has been no formal complaint issued that because when that person went to others to gather support they shut the person down and pointed out what a Grinch they are being

David R. Amos

@cheryl wright LOL

  
Cathy Stafford

Not to be a party pooper here, I know how people like to jump to conclusions, but has anyone checked the facts on this story? So far Dr Davidson has said the a complaint came in from someone wanting to shut the shelter down. That's it. That's all. What kind of complaint? Written? Verbal? Has anyone asked the neighbors about this? Come on CBC. A little more meat on the bone please. An entire neighborhood is being condemned here.

Cindy Fordyce

@Cathy Stafford

It says right in the article that no formal complaint has been made yet. Appears the doc is just simply trying to stay ahead of the argument.

Ian Smyth

@Cathy Stafford yeah it seems kinda premature for a news article about it. but prevention is usually a better practice than reaction.

Cathy Stafford

@Cindy Fordyce She said "the complaint came in during the day last week while organizers were getting ready for the next group of people to stay the night." That is the complaint I am talking about.

David R. Amos

@Ian Smyth Howcome you don't care that I am homeless?

Lynn Ronan

@Cathy Stafford This is true. One person can reflect badly on everyone.

 
Addie lingley

There are bad things out there period in society, a shelter is to help people stay alive that do not have a place to go, people are just naive or ignorant to their situation. There are more dangerous people outside of shelters than inside, I hope it stays!

David R. Amos

@Addie lingley "I hope it stays!"

Me Too

 
Gary MacKay

Becoming homeless can happen to anyone at any time. How our society treats others in need is a reflection of it. There will always be self serving, self-righteous individuals and followers that have a holier than thou attitude which is most unfortunate when it comes to doing the right thing. IMO. I would hope the good citizens of NB's Capital City can set an example of understanding and caring and refute this attitude of NIMBY' ism.

David R. Amos

@Gary MacKay I have been homeless since 2005 and not once have i sought assistance from the government or anyone else for that matter

Mary MacKenzie

@David R. Amos Why not?

David R. Amos

@Mary MacKenzie Pride

 
Wally Manza

What a wonderful opportunity and cause for a neighborhood and community to shine!

Fred Dee

@Wally Manza but some do have concerns,,, and with the voices here... they are afraid to come forward and talk, and should be. Sadly, talking things out can often get things cleared up...

Not in my back yard is a common thing, and reality is … that is what people want!!

David R. Amos

@Fred Dee Oh So True