Friday 3 May 2019

Canadian garbage wrongly dumped in the Philippines is coming home

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Methinks this garbage will be much monitored in an election year N'esy Pas? 


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Canadian garbage wrongly dumped in the Philippines is coming home




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Rex Yuan
Exporter(s) in Canada should be arrested and fined.


David R. Amos
Reply to @Rex Yuan: "Exporter(s) in Canada should be arrested and fined."

And their bonding company should cover all costs












Adrian Williams
I’m very concerned this garbage could be dumped into the Pacific Ocean near Victoria. Oh wait they already dump raw sewage all time. Nevermind  


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Adrian Williams: Methinks this garbage will be much monitored in an election year N'esy Pas?  









JohnColford
A question or two: Who or what is the name of the owner of the company that originally shipped the garbage and why is CBC not reporting the name???????  


Richard Smith 
Reply to @JohnColford: The owner is Filipino, but facts don't fit the CBC narrative.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/02/13/whitby_plastic_recycler_denies_shipping_trash_to_philippines.html



David R. Amos 
Reply to @Richard Smith: Thanks


David R. Amos 
Reply to @David R. Amos:

By Alex Ballingall Feb. 13, 2014

"A Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Canada spokesperson said the government hasn’t been advised of the situation, but will monitor developments through Canadian officials in the Philippines.

Bolivar Bao, an official at the Philippines consulate in Toronto, met with Makris on Tuesday.

“At this point, we’re still trying to confirm his story,” said Bao.

“We’ll be doing our best to determine the circumstances surrounding his allegations.”
Shirley Banquicio, a commercial relations officer from the consulate who also met with Makris, said she’s waiting for a response from Manila to Makris’ claims.

“We haven’t received anything from Manila, officially, on the matter,” she said.
Under the Basel Convention, to which Canada and the Philippines are signatories, it is illegal to ship hazardous waste internationally, except in special circumstances.
Makris insisted that it wouldn’t be possible for such waste to get into his shipments, which are also inspected before they leave Canada, he said.

He added that “anyone with a brain” could see that it makes no sense to ship garbage overseas. It costs $40 per tonne to dump garbage in Canada, but $80 per tonne to ship his recycling material to the Philippines, he said.

The garbage accusation isn’t the only hardship Makris has faced. Though his first 30-container shipment made it past Philippines customs, Makris claimed he hasn’t “seen a dime” of the profits thus far and claimed there might be cost inflation at the Philippines end of his endeavor.

“I’m going to wait 48 hours,” he said, expressing hope his shipment will be deemed acceptable and allowed past customs.

“It’s doing business overseas, and I think that’s the biggest problem,” he said."














Peter Johnson
Is there any countries in the world we are not fighting with???


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Peter Johnson: Iceland (They don't have a military anyone)


David R. Amos
Reply to @David R. Amos: Correction I meant to write "anymore" My political foes know the Icelanders don't have a military anymore since they wised up and quit the coalition of the Willing in the War on Iraq 














Glenn Macadam
Whatever company got paid to dispose of the garbage in the first place should be paying 100% of the bill. And why is it that in all these articles, the company in question has not been named? What a load of garbage, pardon the pun, but not really. 


David R. Amos
Reply to @Glenn Macadam: "Whatever company got paid to dispose of the garbage in the first place should be paying 100% of the bill."

Methinks that even if the company is out of business now they had to be bonded in the first place. Hence the company who backed them up should be made to pay all costs. I bet it was an insurance company no doubt owned by a bank and the politicians don't want their pals to suffer a loss so the taxpayer will have to foot the bill in the end N'esy Pas?  













James Watson
Now this is easy the trash, all from the Vancouver area, was shipped to Manila in early 2013 by Ontario’s Chronic Inc. owner by Jim Makris. This is his problem and the Canadian taxpayer should not be subsidizing HIS business practices.


Ron Vollans
Reply to @James Watson:
I wonder which party he donates to.



Mark Williamson
Reply to @Ron Vollans: Probably all of them, a smart businessman knows to hedge his bets.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Mark Williamson: YUP 


Tristan Gummow
Why does the media continue to protect the company that shipped the trash? They and only they should be paying for its shipment and disposal as well as any time spent by the government dealing with this. Not one penny of tax payer money should be spent on this. And if the trash barons dont have the cash or refuse to pay lock them up and sell everything they own  


Bill Hawkins
Reply to @Tristan Gummow: My understanding is that the Canadian company in question is no longer in existence so you would be trying to squeeze water from the stone. Having said that I agree in principle that industry should pay but that requires funding up front or personal liability on the part of board members or senior executives. After the fact all you are left with are non existent corporate entities.


David R. Amos 
Reply to @Bill Hawkins: "After the fact all you are left with are non existent corporate entities"

Methinks the "non existent corporate entities" were bonded by corporate entities that still exist N'esy Pas? 











 
James Watson
The rotting garbage, which was shipped over by a private Canadian firm in 2013 and 2014. So WHO was this private firm and why aren't its owners being charged? Is this another SNC- Lavalin get out of jail free card?


Janice Mann 
Reply to @James Watson: WHO was in charge of the federal government in 2013 and 2014? WHO ignored the situation up until they were ejected from office in 2015? I'll give you a minute to remember....


Dave Plain
Reply to @Janice Mann: and who ignored it until 2019! When Manila threatens war, suddenly the government has been 'working diligently'. Solved in a week.


Ed Betterley 
Reply to @Dave Plain: Trudeau took immediate action .Ha, Ha. What a joke this took this long to solve.


Janice Mann  
Reply to @Dave Plain: Seems you're saying they're just as good, or just as bad. However, it does reduce the possibility of a SNC- Lavalin situation, except on the part of the Conservatives, doesn't it?


Janice Mann 
Reply to @Ed Betterley: Not immediate action, but action, eventually. Isn't that more impressive than none?


David R. Amos  
Reply to @Dave Plain: "and who ignored it until 2019! When Manila threatens war, suddenly the government has been 'working diligently'. Solved in a week."

Welcome to the Circus
 













Vance Wu
don't want Canadian garbage..fine, you want buy some Canadian canola and pork?


Gordon Burns
Reply to @vance wu: lol. well played


David R. Amos   
Reply to @Gordon Burns: Methinks Mr Prime Minister Trudeau The Younger does not see the humour in the garbage nor do a lot of farmers appreciate the joke N'esy Pas?













Tim Skut
Wonder what the name of the company and its principals are? Why isn't that made public? Blaming Harper or Trudeau is not the point here; the company mixed non-recyclable trash in with recyclables. They should be a price for the negligence or fraud.


Chris Borowiak 
Reply to @Tim Skut: Yes, but it's all fake news. No details.  

Kis Brink
Reply to @Chris Borowiak: Fun FACT. Canada has actual laws which require news be news. It is why when you see the program listing for a Canadian 24 hour news stations the time slots that have discussion panels are marked etc... When something serious happens here the anchors cannot speculate. It is why they spend time listening.

Signs it may be real. Multiple real people are quoted. You could check parts of it against your favourite news aggregator . You have one I hope. The bits that did not happen in camera, should show up in the Hansard. Handy that therei s an electronic version. It's nicely indexed for your convenience.

You could of course given this is coming to you on the internet and you ..well what article did you read as you claim no detail but there is quite a lot. Still if you feel strongly it's fake you can ask the kind people at the CRTC to investigate.

I strongly advise you take some time to read some of the acts because we are quite lucky in how much work has been done to protect the integrity of our news.

Appreciate that please.



David R. Amos  
Reply to @Kis Brink: "I strongly advise you take some time to read some of the acts because we are quite lucky in how much work has been done to protect the integrity of our news. "

Go Figure

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276




Canadian garbage wrongly dumped in the Philippines is coming home

More than 6 dozen containers full of rotting garbage to be taken back to Canada via Port of Vancouver


Filipino environmental activists wear a mock container filled with garbage to symbolize the 50 containers of waste that were shipped from Canada to the Philippines. Canada has made a formal offer to bring the garbage back to the Port of Vancouver. (Aaron Favila/Associated Press)

Canada has made an offer to the Philippines to repatriate six dozen shipping containers full of rotting garbage that were erroneously shipped there six years ago, the federal environment minister said today.

"This is a file we've certainly been working hard on for a long time — obviously an irritant in our relationship with the Philippines, but also a problem," Catherine McKenna told reporters in Ottawa Thursday.

"We've had a team that's been working extremely hard, including from Environment and Climate Change Canada, to find a solution. I am not going to go into the details but there is a proposal on the table with the Philippines and we are hopeful we can come to a resolution."




McKenna said she would not "speculate" on where the garbage will go when it returns to Canada, nor would she disclose the cost of bringing the trash home.

According to Adam Austen, a spokesperson for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, the Philippines has yet to respond to Canada's offer.

If the offer is accepted, the trash would return to Canada through the port of Vancouver before disposal.
The international dispute has been brewing since 2013 and 2014, when a Canadian company shipped about 103 containers wrongly labelled as plastics for recycling to a port near the capital Manila.

The Canadian offer came around the same time as the Philippines ordered its Bureau of Customs to get the containers back on a ship bound for Canada no later than May 15.

Last month, President Rodrigo Duterte threatened to "declare war" on Canada if it didn't take back its trash and set this week as a deadline for an end to the impasse.

"I will declare war against them," he said at the time in a video broadcast by RTVM, the media arm of the president's office. "I will advise Canada that your garbage is on the way. Prepare a grand reception. Eat it if you want to ... your garbage is coming home."


Officials check a shipping container holding Vancouver garbage in Manila in this undated photo. About 100 incorrectly labelled containers full of garbage were sent to the Philippines from Canada about six years ago. (Philippines Bureau of Customs/Canadian Press)
Duterte's colourful comments were matched by his foreign secretary Teodoro Locsin, who tweeted this week that he is going after the Filipino importers who brought the trash into the country but dismissed suggestions they should be sent to Canada with the garbage because that would be "too much pollution."

Canada is a party to the UN Basel Convention, which is meant to reduce transfers of hazardous waste to developing nations without their consent.

In 2016, Canada strengthened its regulations around hazardous waste shipments to include the obligation to take back waste shipments that cannot be completed as planned.


With files from The Canadian Press


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https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/02/13/whitby_plastic_recycler_denies_shipping_trash_to_philippines.html






Whitby plastic recycler denies shipping trash to Philippines


A Whitby businessman accused of illegally shipping mounds of trash masked as recyclable plastic to the Philippines is flatly denying the charge.

“Their story of this garbage thing is just driving me nuts,” said Jim Makris, owner of Chronic Inc., a business that sends mixed plastics across the Pacific to be sorted in the Philippines and sold for recycling.

“Anybody who’s in plastic, who knows plastic, will tell you. It’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard of in my entire life,” Makris said.

Local media in the Philippines reported this week that a 50-container shipment arrived in Manila from Canada last year. Because it was declared as plastic for recycling, the country’s Bureau of Customs said Makris’ company broke the law by shipping “tons of garbage” consisting of household trash and some adult diapers.

The Philippine Daily Inquirer reported that the Bureau of Customs is investigating the 150-worker plant in Valenzuela City started by Makris to sort and sell the plastic he ships.
Makris, who began his Philippines recycling venture nearly a year ago, said the alleged trash-filled containers were part of his second shipment to the country. He said the contents, which he bought from a recycling firm in Vancouver, were “95 per cent plastic” but also contained some paper and aluminum that one would find in a standard household recycling bin.

His first 30-container delivery made it past customs without a problem, he said. Makris told the Star he suspects someone along the chain of delivery wanted to be paid off before his second shipment is allowed through. But he’s not sure.

“This is beyond even understanding what’s going on,” he said. “I think everything was just misunderstood really badly.”


A Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Canada spokesperson said the government hasn’t been advised of the situation, but will monitor developments through Canadian officials in the Philippines.

Bolivar Bao, an official at the Philippines consulate in Toronto, met with Makris on Tuesday.
“At this point, we’re still trying to confirm his story,” said Bao.

“We’ll be doing our best to determine the circumstances surrounding his allegations.”
Shirley Banquicio, a commercial relations officer from the consulate who also met with Makris, said she’s waiting for a response from Manila to Makris’ claims.

“We haven’t received anything from Manila, officially, on the matter,” she said.

Under the Basel Convention, to which Canada and the Philippines are signatories, it is illegal to ship hazardous waste internationally, except in special circumstances.

Makris insisted that it wouldn’t be possible for such waste to get into his shipments, which are also inspected before they leave Canada, he said.

He added that “anyone with a brain” could see that it makes no sense to ship garbage overseas. It costs $40 per tonne to dump garbage in Canada, but $80 per tonne to ship his recycling material to the Philippines, he said.

The garbage accusation isn’t the only hardship Makris has faced. Though his first 30-container shipment made it past Philippines customs, Makris claimed he hasn’t “seen a dime” of the profits thus far and claimed there might be cost inflation at the Philippines end of his endeavor.

“I’m going to wait 48 hours,” he said, expressing hope his shipment will be deemed acceptable and allowed past customs.

“It’s doing business overseas, and I think that’s the biggest problem,” he said.


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