Monday 20 May 2019

How the Liberals spent the week blaming everyone else for the Mark Norman fiasco

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Methinks whereas it began in court after Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger offered a legal opinion he is responsible for the circus N'esy Pas? 


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How the Liberals spent the week blaming everyone else for the Mark Norman fiasco



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David Amos
Methinks whereas it began in court after Mr Prime Minister Trudeau the Younger offered a legal opinion he is responsible for the circus N'esy Pas? 

 
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks my political foes want folks to forget statement number 83 of the lawsuit I filed in Federal Court ( File No T-1557-15) when Harper was the Prime Minister N'esy Pas?


David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Hmmm "Chief of the Defence Staff Jonathan Vance participates in an interview with The Canadian Press in his office in Ottawa on Friday, Jan. 11, 2019"

Google two names to see an interesting coincidence on a a date

Richard Southcott David Amos

Methinks it was awful interesting that Vance did not mention that on January 11, 2016 I had encountered Justice Richard Southcott the former General Counsel of the Irving Shipbuilding Company whom Harper had appointed to the bench just before the writ was dropped. Trust that I contacted Admiral Norman's lawyers the instant I knew of his prosecution and everybody has played dumb ever since



Stephen David
Reply to @David Amos:

Why the fake French?



David Amos 
Reply to @Stephen David: Why not learn to read? 












Jp White
Hey Wayne Easter


David Amos 
Reply to @jp white: Methinks his failings are mentioned on the first page of this old file N'esy Pas?

https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right









David Amos 
Methinks Murray Brewster must have read some of the emails I sent him over the years Anyone can Google two names Murray Brewster David Amos N'esy Pas?  

David Amos 
Reply to @David Amos: Methinks Googling Admiral Mark Norman David Amos is enlightening as well N'esy Pas?


Jeff Hunt
Reply to @David Amos: your horse is well and truly flogged.


David Amos  
Reply to @Jeff hunt: Behold its a pale horse 












Jeff Hunt
WHAT? The most ethical, open transparent and honest government in the history of Canada does a 180 and blames everyone else. Fake news right there!


David Amos   
Reply to @Jeff hunt: Yea Right Tell us another one 
 
Jeff Hunt
Reply to @David Amos: No need to, enough evidence has been laid bare to sink the Liberal ship, N'esy Pas?


David Amos 
Reply to @Jeff hunt: What about all the evidence I filed in the lawsuit against the Crown when Harper was the Prime Minister? 
 
Jeff Hunt

Reply to @David Amos: Filing a lawsuit means jack, get back to us when the case has been heard and you have a ruling in your favour. If it has been heard link us to the settlement.


David Amos  
Reply to @Jeff hunt: Its heading to the Supreme Court in short order and I will file 3 more lawsuits before I run in the election of the 43rd Parliament. Methinks you should Google your name and mine sometime N'esy Pas? 

 
Jeff Hunt
Reply to @David Amos: Well good luck on all of your endeavors. I don't need to google my name, I know who I am thank you.


David Amos  
Reply to @Jeff hunt: So do many others
 











Helen Innamorato
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Bet, you dont understand it? Dont they see how wonderful you are? You are so non-sexist, so non-homophobic, completely transparent, all inclusive and so on ... Basically, you are the coolest guy ever to be PM of Canada ,,,, so how can they not adore you?
Basically Justin, its because you have been the ultimate disappointment. You are arrogant, condescending, a big talker who has flopped on both the foreign and domestic stage.You have proven to be a walking disaster and about as transparent as a concrete wall.



Mo Bennett
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Reply to @helen innamorato: all in all, he's justy another brick in the wall.


Neil Gregory 
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Reply to @helen innamorato:
"Basically Justin, its because you have been the ultimate disappointment."
 
Really, Helen, I can't understand why people would be disappointed in Justin. When you start with a so-called leader who has NOTHING to offer, why would anyone be disappointed when NOTHING is exactly what they get from him.

Look at the facts. Justin was an inexperienced backbencher with no proven leadership abilities or leadership experience within that party, and he really had nothing to offer to Canadians but a famous name from a by-gone era when the Liberal Party made him out to be the great Messiah that would save Canada from the right-wing, Conservative, Harper government. He made 213 rash, but nice-sounding, election promises without ever once considering the possibility that would not be able to keep them, and very likely without the intention of keeping them.



Mark Jean 
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Reply to @helen innamorato: "walking disaster" : check the economy....ooh, that's right, the Cons never talk about the economy!


Helen Innamorato  
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Reply to @Mark Jean: What is it with so many people that just because you dislike Trudeau that you are automatically a Conservative. Mark, I was naive enuf to vote for this blank. I have never been a party person and vote strictly on the issues. In fact, I live in Toronto and voted for NDP - Horwath and i despised Wynne and didnt like Ford.
So people actually vote on policy and are not partisan like you.



Helen Innamorato 
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Reply to @Neil Gregory: Well, I did expect more from him as I did not think that having been around politics most of his like that he would make one blunder after another. I never expected a whole lot but this bad takes inverted skill.


Neil Gregory
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Reply to @helen innamorato:
Well, Helen, I have followed Canadian politics for almost sixty years, andI have learned not to expect anything from the Liberals. On the two occasions that I voted for the Conservatives my hopes forsomethingo different were betrayed by them. So, now I have no faith in either of the two right-wing parties and will vote for the most left-wing candidate I can find.



Matt Thuaii
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Reply to @helen innamorato:

What I don’t understand is how this scathing piece made it past? I mean, this is a Liberal media outlet.

The top of the boards told me so.



Matt Thuaii
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Reply to @Neil Gregory:

He’s always done a passable job. That’s all you can ask in this day and age. You either get passable competence, or shameless career-minded sycophants.

Those are our only options.



David Amos 
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Reply to @helen innamorato: Welcome to the Circus


David Amos 
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Reply to @Matt Thuaii: Dream on


Lorraine Karuse
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Reply to @helen innamorato: CBC is pro conservative. Trying to bring down Trudeau. going at it day in day out. SHAME


David Amos
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Reply to @mo bennett: YO MO Thats Too Heavy


David Amos  
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Reply to @Neil Gregory: Cry me a river


David Amos  
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Reply to @Mark Jean: Methinks the economy fixed itself N'esy Pas?


David Amos 
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Reply to @lorraine karuse: Now thats funny 
 

Charles Waggon
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Reply to @David Amos: If you're going to use a French expression, at least don't insult it and show your ig norance, n'est-ce pas?


Rob Preston 
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Reply to @helen innamorato: Well said. But he,s a fantastic waterboy!!!

David Amos  
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Reply to @Charles Waggon: Methinks my Acadian friends camped around the Bay of Fundy don't care that you don't appreciate my Chiac they understand me N'esy Pas?
 

Fred Sook
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Reply to @David Amos: Ahhhh. The N'esy Pas guy. Have you been on holidays? N'esy Pas.


Fred Sook
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Reply to @David Amos: How many times will you incorrectly say N'esy Pas today? Let's do a count. N'esy Pas.


David Amos  
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Reply to @Fred Sook: Fill your boots Newfie 


Garry Walton
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Reply to @helen innamorato: Top 50+ comments anti-lib, anti Trudeau, major sentiment being expressed here. Wanna see something interesting? Check back tomorrow.


David Amos  
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Reply to @Garry Walton: Methinks the awful truth is nobody cares including you and Trudeau N'esy Pas? 
 
 
Garry Walton
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Reply to @David Amos: Methinks the actual truth is many people do care including Trudeau, N'esy Pas?


David Amos   
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Reply to @Garry Walton: If so then how to you explain this old file being ignored since 2004?

https://www.scribd.com/document/2619437/CROSS-BORDER


David Amos  
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Reply to @Garry Walton: Go figure why my reply is awaiting moderation as usual. 


David Amos
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Reply to @Garry Walton: Trudeau appointed Anne McLellan to advise the PMO on the role of justice minister, attorney general in cabinet. Methinks at the very least she should care N'esy Pas?














Ron Smith
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You elevate a drama teacher of limited mental capacity to the leadership of a middle ranking country, and honestly what exactly did you expect? 


Charles Waggon
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Reply to @Steve Jones: ah but um he's uh so un cute and he knows how to snowboard too

 
George Bath
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Reply to @Ron Smith: we have the truth. the CDS acted, the conservatives created the mess, the case was dismissed and inquiry would resolve nothing.


David Kirby 
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Reply to @george bath:
Certainly sine the Liberals will not allow an inquiry you are correct it will resolve nothing



Lee Weideman 
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Reply to @Charles Waggon: Good one.


Charles Waggon 
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Reply to @george bath: never let the inconvenient truth get in the way of your hardened partisan opinion eh?


Jacqueline Tjandra
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Reply to @Ron Smith:
In a world in which sometimes alternative facts are thought to be facts, fake news are accepted as news, and misinformation takes the place of information, I am so glad that we have teachers. In my view they are smart people and teaching is one of the noblest professions and service to the world. To me it is a source of pride that Mr. Trudeau was a teacher.  



David Amos
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Reply to @Ron Smith: "honestly what exactly did you expect?"

Methinks we get the governments we deserve when apathy rules the day N'esy Pas? 



David Amos
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Reply to @Charles Waggon: "never let the inconvenient truth get in the way of your hardened partisan opinion eh?"

Lets see if you understand English EH?

My political foes want folks to forget statement number 83 of the lawsuit I filed in Federal Court ( File No T-1557-15) when Harper was the Prime Minister

"Chief of the Defence Staff Jonathan Vance participates in an interview with The Canadian Press in his office in Ottawa on Friday, Jan. 11, 2019"

Google two names to see an interesting coincidence on a a date

Richard Southcott David Amos

Methinks it was awful interesting that Vance did not mention that on January 11, 2016 I had encountered Justice Richard Southcott the former General Counsel of the Irving Shipbuilding Company whom Harper had appointed to the bench just before the writ was dropped. Trust that I contacted Admiral Norman's lawyers the instant I knew of his prosecution and everybody has played dumb ever since













Cyrus Manz
!!!.........."How the Liberals spent the week blaming everyone else for the Mark Norman fiasco".........!!

So what's new? This GANG blames everyone else for their own FAILURES all the time. What makes Norman so special?



David Amos 
Reply to @Cyrus Manz: "What makes Norman so special?"

His rank  



Bernadette Stacey
Reply to @Bob Baker: Trump allowed the Mueller inquiry. Trudeau ran away from the so called “ justice committee” and doesn’t go to work for days. Pesky facts. Trump is twice the leader.


David Amos   
Reply to @Bernadette Stacey: "Trump allowed the Mueller inquiry"

I wish my replies were not being blocked 
 
David Amos
Reply to @Ron Smith: "honestly what exactly did you expect?"

Methinks we get the governments we deserve when apathy rules the day N'esy Pas?



David Amos 
Reply to @Charles Waggon: "never let the inconvenient truth get in the way of your hardened partisan opinion eh?"

Lets see if you understand English EH?

My political foes want folks to forget statement number 83 of the lawsuit I filed in Federal Court ( File No T-1557-15) when Harper was the Prime Minister

"Chief of the Defence Staff Jonathan Vance participates in an interview with The Canadian Press in his office in Ottawa on Friday, Jan. 11, 2019"

Google two names to see an interesting coincidence on a a date

Richard Southcott David Amos

Methinks it was awful interesting that Vance did not mention that on January 11, 2016 I had encountered Justice Richard Southcott the former General Counsel of the Irving Shipbuilding Company whom Harper had appointed to the bench just before the writ was dropped. Trust that I contacted Admiral Norman's lawyers the instant I knew of his prosecution and everybody has played dumb ever since 


Richard Sharp
Reply to @Cyrus Manz:

Which of these Lib "failures" upset you, Cy?

Transformational Senate reform (independent for the first time in history), no constitutional crisis required; orderly marijuana legalization; transformational child benefit reforms, improving the lot of 90% of Canadian families and, along with other measures, pulling 900,000 Canadians out of poverty; record low unemployment and a million jobs created over his term; a stock market boom; serious climate action, internationally and back here, despite recent provincial elections; a progressive health accord; FNs reconciliation like never before, from treaties to clean water to more consultations; three trade deals, each more progressive because of Lib initiatives; help for vets (close to 20 campaign promises met), and for the elderly, students and other disadvantaged groups; reconnecting with the UN and other multilateral organizations, worldwide promotion of women and girls like never before; dropping or settling Harper's many wasteful court actions, saving hundreds of millions; new, merit based appointment processes for senators, judges and senior executives; canceling the use of tax money for partisan political purposes such as EAP ads....  



David Amos 
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Cry me a river


John Dunn
Reply to @Bob Baker: Manz is one of those promoting discord and right wing policies all over the world. Another Trumpeteer.


John Dunn
Reply to @Stanley Baird: And in Cyrus's land, politicians do not follow the same loyalty pattern. LOL
John Dunn
Reply to @Cyrus Manz: I see the far right vote loading program is working again.
Richard Sharp
Reply to @John Dunn:

How do they get away with that? Why can't the CBC and other social media websites control it?
Well the Libs got in in 2015 in the first place by blaming. Blaming the Cons for not enough women being in high-profile Cabinet positions, blaming the Cons for not being assertive on climate change. A hallmark of narcissism is blaming others, and patting your own self on the back. Sounds like the Liberals and Trump have a lot in common.
David Amos  
Reply to @Richard Sharp: "How do they get away with that? Why can't the CBC and other social media websites control it?"

Methinks you should ask that question of yourself N'esy Pas?













Reid Fleming
October... so close, yet so far away. 


David Amos   
Reply to @Reid Fleming: "October... so close, yet so far away. "

True Do you remember CBC article on a May Day a while back?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/weston-canada-offered-to-aid-iraq-invasion-wikileaks-1.1062501

How about one in an October not so long ago?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/fundy-royal-riding-profile-1.3274276

 

Richard Sharp
Reply to @Reid Fleming:

In October, Canadians will be asked which of over 300 REMARKABLE Lib campaign promises met would they cancel? Answer, none. This government has been like no other in terms of action and the corporate media hasn't even noticed. Because they are on the take. It's systemic. It's well disguised, is all.
David Amos    
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Methinks thou doth jest too much N'esy Pas?















Don Cameron
We have a prime minister who, not once, but twice claimed that charges would be laid in this case. We have a senior cabinet minister, connected with the Irving shipyard, suddenly retiring for no apparent reason. We have a Liberal MP and party whip, and former General, announcing that he would not run again as a Liberal and would be testifying for the defense.
We have Trudeau's top advisors meeting with the CDS before he decided to suspend Norman.

This case has the smell of the Trudeau PMO all over it. It smells bad.




David Amos  
Reply to @Don Cameron: True However methinks you overlooked my lawsuit and my battle with Justice Southcott before any of this Admiral Norman stuff hit the news N'esy Pas? 


Jeff Smith  
Reply to @Stanley Baird:

& Brison.



David Amos    
Reply to @Jeff Smith: Trust that everybody knows that Brison is a mindless self serving joker to me.

Methinks Trudeau knows why as well as I why Brison and Herron quit Harper's and MacKay's new political party in 2004 and why I ran against Herron and Rob Moore in Fundy Royal for its seat in the 38th Parliament while being illegally barred from parliamentary properties just like Louis Riel was long ago Peter MacKay knows its detailed within my lawsuit I filed in Federal Court while running in Fundy Royal again in 2015 because he answered me before polling day and I received a judgement in my favour in January of 2016 that I made Brison and all his cohorts well aware of Nesy Pas?













Mark Sobkow
The Liberals couldn't take for responsibility for their own actions if their lives depended on it.

Unfortunately for them, their *political* lives *do*.

One and done. 



Matt Thuaii
Reply to @Mark Sobkow:

Like the Americans who blindly stumbled into Trump, if Canadians are foolish enough to hand their country back to the “conservatives”, they deserve to have their country taken away from them.

Maybe they do. 



David Amos  
Reply to @Mark Sobkow: "One and done."

Methinks The Fat Lady Ain't Sung Yet N'esy Pas?  



David Amos 
Reply to @Matt Thuaii: You have every right to take the defeatist attitude that Harper accused Maritimers of long ago. However the results of many recent elections are telling the pollsters they need to go back to school and quit playing politics with their numbers. I see a true change coming for the benefit of all in Canada this October. It certainly appears to me that more third parties and Independents may find seats in the 43rd Parliament which no doubt will have a minority mandate whether the next PM be wearing a Red Coat or a Blue one. Methinks if they have two clues between their ears both Scheer and Trudeau should be nervous campers about their standing a party leaders over a long hot summer of hardball politicking and everybody knows I am playing my part at the circus N'esy Pas?


Fred Sook
Reply to @David Amos: N'esy Pas again?













Rick Guthrie
What an utter failure this government is. Worst government in our history.  


Neil Gregory
Reply to @Rick Guthrie:
NO! The Harper government was the worst, by far. Mulroney, Trudeau I, and Trudeau II, are in a three-way tie for second place.



David Amos     
Reply to @Neil Gregory: Methinks you always overlook Sir John A MacDonald and his cohorts for political reasons N'esy Pas? 
 

Fred Sook
Reply to @David Amos: N'esy Pas once again.


Richard Sharp

Reply to @Rick Guthrie:

Nope, that honour goes to PM Harper, who is Scheer personaified:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2015/09/17/harpers-economic-record-the-worst-in-canadas-postwar-history.html


David Amos
Reply to @Richard Sharp: Methinks its interesting that whenever you appear entire threads evaporate N'esy Pas?















Suz Cloutier
"Vance insisted that the decision to suspend Norman was his alone and was made without political direction or interference.

And beyond informing Sajjan and Trudeau of the RCMP investigation, the defence chief said, "I have never, ever spoken to anybody political about this, beyond that, ever. Period.""

yet on the day of the police raid on normans house, a couple of hours before he suspended norman he called trudeau, and met separately with sajjan and GB and telford

but he took the decision independently of any political direction from any of these people

uh huh

because all it takes is a few hours to search thru documents to find evidence and proof to come to a conclusion that he was guilty and needed to be suspended even though now weve come to find out none of it was proof of a breach nor was any of it remotely a smoking gun.



David Amos     
Reply to @suz cloutier: "uh huh"

Well Put 



Don Smith
Reply to @suz cloutier:

Partisan spin aside as the article/column points out there's lots of blame to go around & it doesn't stop with Trudeau but it sure would have been nice if Trudeau at al hadn't kept doubling down just like they did with JWR.

What hasn't been mentioned anywhere is what happened to Project Resolve & all those people in Quebec that built the Asterix after the Liberals rejected the sister ship the Obelisk! Davie Shipyards been pitching a sister ship that they've placed a hold on another hull for conversion & despite cutting the price by $200 Million the Liberals have ignored the offer. It's to be noted the Asterix & Obelisk are very well set up for International Humanitarian & Disaster Relief Missions. The RCN's poorly set up to offer a Hospital/Supply ship for such missions as it is aside from the Asterix.



David Amos  
Reply to @Don Smith: "Partisan spin aside as the article/column points out there's lots of blame to go around & it doesn't stop with Trudeau"

Oh So True Folks should ask why Harper kept his seat so long after the election of the 42nd Parliament Everybody knows I file my lawsuit in Federal Court while he was the Prime Minister Methinks he didn't quit his seat until he thought my Goose was cooked when the judges he had appointed denied my appeal and proceeded to overturn Southcott's decision which was in my favour N'esy Pas?












Craig Sweeney
It's funny that the JT cheerleaders are lamenting the fact that the Conservatives did not intervene during the investigation by the RCMP. Why would a past government meddle in the affairs of the new incoming government? One wound assume that the RCMP were doing their jobs, unless of course they were pressured to act in a certain way. This while thing stinks and needs a public enquiry. 


David Amos     
Reply to @Craig Sweeney: "One wound assume that the RCMP were doing their jobs"

Methinks that it would not be wise to assume such a thing N'esy Pas?
 



Fred Sook
Reply to @David Amos: Do I dare say it? Yes. Yes I will. N'esy Pas! Hahahahahhahahaha.













Joc McTavish
Yer done Trudeau.


David Amos  
Reply to @Joc McTavish: Methinks it would not be wise to bet the farm on the opinion just yet N'esy Pas? 
 

Will Woods
Reply to @David Amos: Quebec is a gamble, but I would definitely take this bet for the whole country.


David Amos  
Reply to @Will Woods: Ontario is always the battleground Methinks Mr Ford's actions and Mr Scheer's yapping could sink the Conservative's punky dory in the Ottawa River before October N'esy Pas? 
 

Fred Sook
Reply to @David Amos: That's seven times and counting! In one article. N'esy Pas.


Fred Sook 
Reply to @David Amos: Number eight! N'esy PaS.












Mark Sobkow
The question in my mind is "How many MORE Liberal scandals will there be in the five months remaining before the election?"  


David Amos 
Reply to @Mark Sobkow: "How many MORE Liberal scandals will there be in the five months remaining before the election?"

Methinks the more the merrier the circus we are paying for will be N'esy Pas?  



Fred Sook
Reply to @David Amos: Please change your name to N'esy Pas. Please.












Kevin Carns
Have you noticed Trudeau blames everyone else for things he did wrong , Trudeau and his Liberals do not belong as leadership of this great country. 


David Amos  
Reply to @Kevin Carns: "Have you noticed Trudeau blames everyone else for things he did wrong"

YUP











Lloyd Browen
The moment that selfie is kicked to the curb, I will celebrate with a CARBONated beverage.


David Amos  
Reply to @Lloyd Browen: ROTFLMAO











Luke Armstrong
Trudeau spent most of the week in Paris....trying to forget. 


David Amos 
Reply to @Luke Armstrong: "trying to forget."

Methinks he no doubt failed again N'esy Pas? 



Fred Sook
Reply to @David Amos: tHAT'S NINE. nESY pAAS. 















Don Luft
I agree there should be an enquiry. The public has a right to know why former Conservative cabinet members knew all along what Norman did was authorized and they said nothing for years.

If you know you have vital information you can't use the excuse you weren't asked. Law enforcement people don't know and can't guess at what someone said or did behind closed doors. Did the RCMP have any reason to believe these people had additional information? It was their duty to come forth with this, and not at the 11th hour.

Scheer is trying to find a Liberal scandal when a Conservative scandal is staring him in the face.



David Amos  
Reply to @Don Luft: "Scheer is trying to find a Liberal scandal when a Conservative scandal is staring him in the face"

YUP
 



 

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