David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks I should repeat that its small wonder why I told off I told off the EUB and their NB Power cohorts on May 9th N'esy Pas?
https://podcast-a.akamaihd.
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/science-behind-nb-powers-hydrogen.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
'This reeks': MLAs want accountability on NB Power's hydrogen venture
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David Amos
"Energy and Resource Development Minister Mike Holland, said he's still trying to get answers from the utility."
Yea Right Methinks many folks would have enjoyed listening to my conversation with Holland's assistant a week or so before I told off the EUB and their NB Power cohorts on May 9th N'esy Pas?
Eric Plexe
“New Brunswick governments invested $4.7 million in a Saint John company, Atlantic Hydrogen, that went bankrupt in 2015. The company was trying to develop clean-energy technology but wasn't able to make it commercially viable.” - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/power-promising-untested-belledune-1.4475563
David Amos
Reply to @Eric Plexe: Methinks when at first you don't succeed try again but do it with other people's money N'esy Pas?
Doug Leblanc
The experiment is simple. Google “cold fusion” and see what happened to Fleischmann and Pons. You need three main ingredients. Palladium, a metal in the platinum family; deuterium, a hydrogen found in seawater, and electric current. You put the palladium in sea water and turn the current on. The hope is that you get many multiples of heat energy produced than the electric current you put in. If so you have created an endless supply of cheap energy. Noble prize worthy. My biggest question is why it can’t be easily duplicated, and if this company has the “secret sauce” to power the world in a clean fashion and eliminate global warming, why aren’t billionaires (ie bill gates etc) all over this or big United States power companies. Why would this company agree to share its rights for a measly 13M of hard working NB tax dollars.
David Amos
Reply to @Doug Leblanc: Methinks this ain't rocket science but considering their location perhaps it is N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
Riots at the next rate hike hearings? this is pathetic.
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn
McShane: Methinks riots won't happen but the EUB hearing may stink from
all the BS being spread around the fancy room on Tuesday morning in St
Andrews. I maintain the Brattle Group whom the EUB has contracted to
take me on would be wise to attend N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
Did Gaëtan Thomas put his own money and home on the line? That $13 MILLION tax payer money could have gone towards nurses, doctors and the senior workers.
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn
McShane: Methinks you know as well as I that nobody cares and helped
prove my point the instant you made fun of my hair and beard N'esy Pas?
Lorne Logan
We need pipelines not pipe dreams
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Lorne Logan: no need of pipelines anymore than we need holes in our head.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks only people with holes in their head would wish to
continue to sell to Yankees at two thirds of the world price N'esy Pas?
Lorne Logan
sounds like another BRICKLIN.
David Amos
Reply to @Lorne
Logan: No really. At least they gave locals a little work building the
Bricklins here with real engines and tires etc that we could take for a
ride and have a little fun while trying to dodge the potholes. I see no
fun in this deal with Yankees
Ernesto Rafael
Surely would be nice to rely less on Saudi oil.
Daryl Doucette
Reply to @Ernesto Rafael: Yup. Lets use the oil in Alberta. Build the pipeline.
David Amos
Reply to @daryl doucette: "Lets use the oil in Alberta."
What do you think the Irving trains are hauling through Sussex?
David Amos
Reply to @daryl doucette: Methinks every political pundit worth his salt knows that in 2015 much to the chagrin of the Green Party and the NDP I said build the pipeline in order to get the bitumen to salt water and world prices instead of being beaten up by the Yankees and NAFTA N'esy Pas?
Daryl Doucette
The good old USA is BURSTING with people with $$$$ just waiting in the wings to pounce on any new ground breaking discoveries/ inventions/ technologies they can get rich on. Its simply amazing that all those people were "one upped" by a few folks from a teeny little utility company from Canada......??
Shawn McShane
Reply to @daryl doucette: They don't teach common sense but greed is universal.
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Merlin knew that long ago
Al Clark
If this joker had anything to fear, like JAIL, he might wise up. .... defying the laws of physics .... It looks like drumpf's success with ridiculousness is emboldening others BIGTIME!
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks he should have another talk with your blogging hero Chucky N'esy Pas?
Al Clark
Go to 'er gaetan! CBC thinks Galileo, Newton, Joule, Bernoulli etc were all nuts too. See if you can pick us up some alchemy gear while you're at it!
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy N'esy Pas?
Mike Morton
The internet is a powerful tool:
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-nanomaterial-can-pull-hydrogen-out-of-seawater-using-sunshine-alone
Al Clark
Reply to @Mike Morton: Some of my inlaws are powerful tools....
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks many Yankees know that I suffer from the same affliction N'esy Pas?
Wayne Mac Arthur
A 13 M donation and the quote from the article says all we need to know. (Thomas, who sits on Joi's board,). I am positive my ev vehicle will be pollution free if I wait to take power from this scheme.
David Amos
Reply to @Wayne Mac Arthur: YUP
Stanley Beemish
I always knew that if this fool was given enough rope that he would one day hang himself.
David Amos
Reply to @Stanley Beemish: Welcome to the Circus
Jason Inness
I have a novel idea. If Mr. Thomas is so secure in his assessment of the $13 million investment, why doesn't he insure the deal with his own money? That is, if the deal doesn't work out, or if there are overruns, etc., then HE can pay for the financial fallout instead of us ratepayers. Every time someone in government or a crown corporation screws up (which seems all too often), the ratepayers are the ones on the hook. If he believes in it so much, then offering his own money as insurance shouldn't be an issue.
David Amos
Reply to @Jason Inness: Dream on
Lou Bell
If this fails , there should be lots of free Methane available to feed their gas plants !
David Amos
Reply to @Lou Bell:
Methinks if you listened to Minister Mikey you would realize that it
would not be wise to light a match right now N'esy Pas?
Ray Bungay
If something like this sounds too be true it likely a scam. I too am very skeptical!
David Amos
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Reply to @Ray Bungay: If it walks like a duck etc etc etc
Debi Mcdonald
Mr Higgs what are your thoughts on this issue. Do you as our Premier, think this is a serious project, especially with thomas sitting on the board directors ???? This is many millions we are talking about.
David Amos
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Reply to @debi mcdonald: "Mr Higgs what are your thoughts on this issue" All I hear is crickets Methinks he is still hiding under a rock since the ladies of CUPE called him a liar N'esy Pas?
Greg Smith
High time to clean house at NB Power, starting at the top.
David Amos
Reply to @Greg Smith: YUP
Fred Brewer
I would like to see Mr. Thomas testify under oath as to his involvement with Joi and exactly how this deal went down.
Ray Bungay
Reply to @Fred
Brewer: This smacks of another mis-guided venture this Thomas guy was
trying to suck us into, Smart Meters that has more questions than
answers!!! He says it will save us money while this website who I
believe based on smart meter use in NS will only service to steal our
personal information !!!
https://www.emfanalysis.com/smart-meter-health-effects/
https://www.emfanalysis.com/smart-meter-health-effects/
Fred Brewer
Reply to @Ray Bungay:
You are correct sir. Smart meters will actually increase your power bill because they are able to measure power demand peaks that the old meters cannot. So each time you turn on a device the uses a lot of power, the start-up demand will now be measured and you will be charged for it.
You are correct sir. Smart meters will actually increase your power bill because they are able to measure power demand peaks that the old meters cannot. So each time you turn on a device the uses a lot of power, the start-up demand will now be measured and you will be charged for it.
David Amos
Reply to @Ray Bungay: "Smart Meters that has more questions than answers!!!"
YUP ask Roger Richard
David Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: "You are correct sir. Smart meters will actually increase your power bill "
Why not come to the EUB hearing next week and say Hey to Roger Richard and I?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearings-nb-power-smart-meters-1.4529640
Why not come to the EUB hearing next week and say Hey to Roger Richard and I?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearings-nb-power-smart-meters-1.4529640
John Haigh
God forbid CBC do some actual investigative journalism for once.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @John Haigh: I gave them this months ago.
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Methinks you should come to the EUB hearing next week and say hey to Roger Richard and I N'esy Pas?
Aaron Allison
NB Power has been Derailing 2 significant Projects, the Maritime Iron Project and the State of the Art Nuclear Project because they only got a vision for 1 Project the Hydrogen Project, The other Vision for NB Power is to continue to try and Raise Power rates.
David Amos
Reply to @Aaron Allison: "The other Vision for NB Power is to continue to try and Raise Power rates."
YUP
YUP
Aaron Allison
I have been saying for years that we need a Forensic Audi,t by the Auditor General into NB Power
David Amos
Reply to @Aaron Allison: I have been screaming it
Patrick McDonald
This company is claiming that they can get a 200% return in a lab environment, as in, for ever 1 watt of energy they put in, their technology produces 2 watts of energy in the form of hydrogen gas.
I'm not a physicist, but I know that's impossible. If they're producing results in a lab that say otherwise, then the results are faked.
This is nothing more than an expenditure that NBPower will use to justify future rate increases on the backs of residential customers. When the technology fails after NBPower has spent millions to build hydrogen generation stations all over the province, who's going to be left to pick up the tab?
Here's an idea: When the technology fails, and the millions have been spent, instead of collecting it back from ratepayers in the form of increases, how about we take it out of NBPower executive salaries and pension plans?
Marguerite Deschamps
How some of you would like to see this fail !
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Cry me a river
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David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks it should be a small wonder as to why I told off the EUB this week N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/science-behind-nb-powers-hydrogen.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/joi-scientific-part-two-1.5133447
NB Power CEO confident Joi Scientific investigations 'will go away'
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Bernard McIntyre
Maybe some investigating should be started by the N.B government. Criminal investigating.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Bernard McIntyre: Joi Scientific, Inc.is using Gaëtan Thomas to give them legitimacy.
- Facing the Energy Challenge Creatively: An Interview with Gaëtan Thomas
- Facing the Energy Challenge Creatively: An Interview with Gaëtan Thomas
David Amos
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Reply to @Bernard
McIntyre: Methinks its ironic that whenever I investigate their
questionable actions they call me a criminal N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Reply to @David Amos: Oh My My Isn't that rather telling thing?
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn
McShane: Methinks Gaëtan Thomas and his cohorts know I talked to Vicky
Harris over 3 weeks before she wrote that article Anyone can Google
Gaëtan Thomas Vicky Harris David Amos to see the proof for themselves
N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
Reply to @David Amos: Go get em Merlin
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Methinks it usually bald dudes who make fun of my hair because they are jealous N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
I see very psssimistic and defeatist people posting on here !
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Cry me a river
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: I see oceans being cried here.
David Amos
Methinks it should be a small wonder as to why I told off the EUB this
week N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David Amos: nobody care who You tell off.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks CBC listens when my political foes tell people off N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-florida-start-up-1.5037917
'No mandate'
Green Leader David **** said the venture goes beyond the utility's legislated role.
"It has no mandate as a public entity to be spending ratepayers' money on [research and development], to be acting like an angel investor in someone's project in Florida. It's not their mandate.
"They're way beyond the bounds of their mandate. The premier needs to have a discussion with the board of NB Power."
Thomas said the utility is not an investor and does not own a stake in the company.
June Arnott
TO GOOD TO BE TRUE !
What did your grandparents tell you about things that are too good to be true???
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Johnny Horton: they alao told me that men would never walk on the moon and that the earth is flat.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks that helps to explain why you are the way you are N'esy Pas?
Murray Brown
The funny part... They're not worried, but I guess that's because they make more money than the average working human is paid on this planet and they're playing around with taxpayer money... Not their own. The obvious question... What benefit financial or otherwise is Mr. Thomas receiving back from this $13 million dollar investment of taxpayers money? And why does the RCMP investigate Navy commanders, but they never investigate senior civil servants, politicians or CEO's at NB Power?
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Murray Brown: New Brunswick's secret conflict regime for unelected officials
-Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 27, 2019
-Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 27, 2019
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Methinks you should review my comments N'esy Pas?
Roland Godin
Could it be another dream on think big project, like many other projects in Nouveau/New-Brunswick with a population the size of a small city street corner, including not considering HydroQ offer?...et voilà.
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Roland Godin: the old dinosaurs would never have agreed to sell anything to Kebec!
Marc
Martin
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: That's the reason why we are in a mess right now, can you
imagine have 5 billion less on the province, not counting all these
salary savings and especially Mactacouac that will cost us an extra 5
billion...
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Marc
Martin: Hydro-Québec asked for changes to the agreement. Quebec Premier
Jean Charest told reporters they didn't want the risks and costs
related to matters like dam security and water levels even though NB
Premier scaled back the selling cost to $3.2 billion....CBC Quebec
balked at NB Power sale costs
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Shawn McShane: there was too much bickering from the Peanut Gallery, so they said, keep your worthless assets!
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Yea Right
David Amos
Reply to @Marc Martin: Cry me a river
Roy Kirk
It sometimes seems that NB Power sends its senior executives and board members to the Alfred E. Neuman Schools of Business for studies in the 'What?, Me Worry?!' approach to business management. I guess it works for them, if not for the rest of us. ;-(
David Amos
Reply to @Roy Kirk: Welcome to the Circus
Michael Hunt
Is anyone investigating Gaeton Thomas ?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Michael Hunt: No! Why.
David Amos
Reply to @Michael Hunt: I am
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Remind us again how you and Chucky L were separated at birth?
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks you sure know how to jerk an old dog's chain N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Al Clark
Reply to @David Amos: Sorry Dave. It was the devil, or little green men, or something like that ;-)
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Its cool I can take a joke
Bernard McIntyre
Typical N.B power can't afford what they have now as we see with a rate increase they want . They go and spend 13 million and if and I say a big if this works then they want to build more plants. Gaetan Thomas should be remove immediately from N.B power
Mark (Junkman) George
Reply to @Bernard McIntyre:
It is hard, if not impossible, for him to serve two masters.
It is hard, if not impossible, for him to serve two masters.
Bernard McIntyre
Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Yes but It seems that N. B tax payer's are paying Gaetan Thomas for both jobs.
David Amos
Reply to @Bernard McIntyre: Methinks we already generate more power than we need N'esy Pas?
John Smith
thank goodness someone is forward thinking in this province reading political climate and getting us a reliable source of energy of the future and possibly tapping gov money to help its genious if you ask me
Shawn McShane
Reply to @john smith: NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas is listed as Director of Joi Scientific.
Mark (Junkman) George
Reply to @Shawn McShane:
I'm starting to not quite believe much of whatever comes out of the mouth of Gaëtan Thomas and to that end I believe he should be knighted: Sir Capitan BS.
I'm starting to not quite believe much of whatever comes out of the mouth of Gaëtan Thomas and to that end I believe he should be knighted: Sir Capitan BS.
David Amos
Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: I concur
Colin Seeley
“ I have a bad feeling about this “
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Colin Seeley: what else is new?
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "what else is new?"
Methinks the most comical one is you pretending to be no fan of the SANB N'esy Pas?
Methinks the most comical one is you pretending to be no fan of the SANB N'esy Pas?
Daryl Doucette
"Orimulsion....Atcon....Bricklyn....FrancoPhonie games...".now this dandy....is New Brunswick's name on a special list some where for " get rich quick " scheemers?
David Amos
Reply to @daryl doucette: YUP
Al Clark
The only thing that will "go away" is our money.....
David Amos
Reply to @Al Clark: Methinks we are paying a lot of interest on a lot of money that is already gone N'esy Pas?
Trevis L.
Kingston
I hope the lawyers who represented the Province in this deal were NOT government ones.
Gov. lawyers don't see loop holes and cost us millions... all the time.
Gov. lawyers don't see loop holes and cost us millions... all the time.
David Amos
Reply to @Trevis L.
Kingston: Methinks you should attend the EUB hearing next week and
listen to these wondrous lawyers protecting your interests N'esy Pas?
Daniel
Rawlins
Does
the $13 million NBPower gave them for licensing fees include the $7
million they gave them in 2018 for research? Time will tell us if the
utility gets what it paid for or if they were just bilked out of $13-$20
million dollars.
David Amos
David Amos
Reply to @Daniel
Rawlins: "Does the $13 million NBPower gave them for licensing fees
include the $7 million they gave them in 2018 for research?"
Methinks not N'esy Pas?
Methinks not N'esy Pas?
Chantal LeBouthi
If NB poeples get screwed by this
I hope the CEO will get fired
David Amos
Reply to @Chantal LeBouthi: Me Too
Roger Richard
« They go and make a complaint to the ombudsman or to some regulation and it's unfortunate but it happens," Thomas said.
Yah, right...
David Amos
Reply to @Roger
Richard: YO mon ami methinks folks should look forward to your questions
at the upcoming EUB Hearing N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks now that the People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin has chimed in on the side of the Green Party leader things are getting interesting at the Circus in Fat Fred City for Premier Higgs, his mindless Minister Mikey Holland and their many minions in NB Power before the fine and fancy EUB hearing next week in St Andrews and Saint John in order to raise the rates and pay for this nonsense N'esy Pas?
Shawn McShane
Reply to @David Amos: Joi Scientific, Inc.is using Gaëtan Thomas to give them legitimacy. Their trusty director.
- Facing the Energy Challenge Creatively: An Interview with Gaëtan Thomas
- Facing the Energy Challenge Creatively: An Interview with Gaëtan Thomas
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: I already responded to that hint remember?
Shawn McShane
I would feel better if the government was People Alliance and Green instead of People Alliance and PC. This is a test for New Brunswickers. Which party is going to do anything about this blatant conflict of interest?
David Amos
Reply to @Shawn McShane: Methinks Merlin would disagree with such reasoning N'esy Pas?
---------- Original message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 06:55:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Golly Gosh Batman CBC has just revealed one of the many
reasons the EUB has barred me
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Cc: Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, Robert.Jones@cbc.ca,
David.Akin@globalnews.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
steve.murphy@ctv.ca, gthomas@nbpower.com, jfurey@nbpower.com,
bplummer@nbpower.com, Marc.Belliveau@gnb.ca, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
tj@burkelaw.ca, kelly@lamrockslaw.com, mike.holland@gnb.ca,
robert.mckee@gnb.ca, robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca, michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca,
brian.gallant@gnb.ca, denis.landry2@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca,
Jack.Keir@gnb.ca, jeff.carr@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, andre@jafaust.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca,
leader@greenparty.ca, elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
NB Power CEO confident Joi Scientific investigations 'will go away'
NB Power has paid Florida company $13M in licensing fees for
mysterious technology
Karissa Donkin, Jacques Poitras, Alyssa Gould · CBC News · Posted: May
14, 2019 6:30 AM AT
10 Comments
David Amos
Methinks it should be a small wonder as to why I told off the EUB this
week N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
I see very psssimistic and defeatist people posting on here !
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Cry me a river
On 5/13/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
> Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic says
> Social Sharing
>
> Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
> Jacques Poitras, Karissa Donkin · CBC News · Posted: May 13, 2019 6:00 AM
> AT
>
>
> 78 Comments
>
>
> Wally Manza
> Why do I not have any confidence in Gaeten Thomas nor believe much what he
> says?
>
>
> David Amos
> Awaiting moderation
> Reply to @Wally Manza: Methinks folks should study all the files
> within the recent EUB Hearings about NB Power they are matters 430,
> 375 and 357 N'esy Pas?
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @Wally Manza: I could tell you why just like many posters on
> here. But it will not get published, I'm afraid.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Surprise Surprise Surprise
>
>
> On 5/13/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>
>> Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic
>> says
>>
>> Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for
>> now
>> Jacques Poitras, Karissa Donkin · CBC News · Posted: May 13, 2019 6:00 AM
>> AT
>>
>>
>> https://www.nuclearsafety.gc.
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 12:41:05 -0400
>> Subject: YO Mikey Holland Methinks my little speech and the EUB
>> hearing last night has had an effect N'esy Pas?
>> To: "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, tj <tj@burkelaw.ca>, kelly
>> <kelly@lamrockslaw.com>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)" <mike.holland@gnb.ca>,
>> "robert.mckee" <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
>> <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
>> "rick.desaulniers" <rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca>, "michelle.conroy"
>> <michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau,
>> Kevin (LEG)" <Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan (LEG)"
>> <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
>> "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"
>> <denis.landry2@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir"
>> <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>, "jeff.carr" <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming"
>> <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, andre
>> <andre@jafaust.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "andrew.scheer"
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "maxime.bernier"
>> <maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>,
>> "elizabeth.may" <elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>
>> Jimmy Moore
>> Reply to @: David Amos isn't qualified to fix anything in my opinion,
>> he isn't even allowed at most hearing and all his legal challenges
>> have amounted to nothing but a waste of taxpayer money
>>
>> David R. Amos
>> Reply to @Jimmy Moore: Is that your real name?
>>
>> On 5/10/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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>>> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 13:00:08 +0000
>>> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Dominic Cardy are your ears burning today?
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
>>> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
>>> tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
>>> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
>>>
>>> Si votre courriel est lié à un enjeu de circonscription, veuillez
>>> contacter Cheryl Layton à mon bureau de circonscription dans Albert au
>>> (506) 856-4961 ou Cheryl.Layton@gnb.ca.
>>>
>>> Merci encore pour votre courriel!
>>> Mike Holland
>>> Ministre
>>> Député, Albert
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>>
>>> French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Allison
>>> My Little Girls school does not have French Immersion. Time to hold a
>>> Referendum on Bilingualism.
>>>
>>> 23 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: yes, lets get rid of it
>>>
>>> 21 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: Maybe you should do like every has too when a
>>> school is not available for their kids they move where there is one.
>>>
>>> 19 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Joseph Vachier: you cannot. It's enshrined in the
>>> Constitution.
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: the French extremists that wrote the
>>> "Official Languages Act" of New Brunswick " back in the day" made sure
>>> that " bilingualism" would be exempt from any " referendum" issues in
>>> the future. In other words, we cannot have a referendum on
>>> bilingualism, unless we open the constitution of Canada , which will
>>> not happen because Quebec would have to agree to it. they got us good
>>> folks!
>>>
>>> 13 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @daryl doucette:
>>> Vendue!
>>>
>>> 13 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @daryl doucette: No they don't. Amos says NB doesn't have a
>>> constipation.
>>>
>>> 25 minutes ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Good word..."enshrined"...dug in like
>>> an Alabama tick....
>>>
>>> 24 minutes ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane: you have a point there....I forget but yeah
>>> maybe Quebec did not sign it in '82....some one please clarify
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Carr, Jeff Hon. (ELG/EGL)" <Jeff.Carr@gnb.ca>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 13:00:08 +0000
>>> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Dominic Cardy are your ears burning today?
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly
>>> valued.
>>>
>>> You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
>>> reviewed and taken into consideration. There may be occasions when,
>>> given the issues you have raised and the need to address them
>>> effectively, we will forward a copy of your correspondence to the
>>> appropriate government official. Accordingly, a response may take
>>> several business days. If your issue is Constituency related, please
>>> contact Roseann at my Constituency office in Fredericton Junction at
>>> roseann.smith@gnb.ca or 368-2938. Thanks again for your email. ______
>>> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
>>> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
>>> tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
>>> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons. Dans
>>> certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
>>> responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de
>>> la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours
>>> ouvrables pourraient s’écouler avant que nous puissions vous répondre.
>>> Si votre courriel est lié à une issue de circonscription, veuillez
>>> contacter Roseann à mon bureau de circonscription à Fredericton
>>> Junction à roseann.smith@gnb.ca ou 368-2938. Merci encore pour votre
>>> courriel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>>>
>>>> French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marguerite Deschamps
>>>> Come on Anglophones; you've smarter than that! Learn another language,
>>>> it's good for the mind!
>>>>
>>>> 18 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
>>>> The problem is not learning another language but when we live in North
>>>> America it is nearly impossible to retain and use what we learn.
>>>>
>>>> 17 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Might try learning Mi'kmaq, they may
>>>> be the overlords over all of South East NB, Shediac, Moncton,
>>>> Dieppe...
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane:
>>>> And so they should...........
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Dan Lee: When they went to war with other tribes over
>>>> territory what happened? When they sided with one group over the
>>>> other, when they fought with the French over the British and then the
>>>> British over the French and then the Americans and then the British
>>>> again when the British were winning over the Americans...how is it so
>>>> they should? If the Americans won? If the French won?
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane:
>>>> Read of most treaties......British would speak the treaty and write on
>>>> paper differantly......i have a portrait of an old map which shows
>>>> here native land was......
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: ok marguerite...go learn Chinese. Be
>>>> good for your mind.
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and Mandarin Chinese should be anyone's first choice for a second
>>>> language.
>>>>
>>>> 15 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Dan Lee: To be brutal honest with you I don't disagree with
>>>> the message, I disagree with the method. It should be all Canadians
>>>> together. What we have is Divide and Conquer method by the Government
>>>> of Canada ™️
>>>>
>>>> 12 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "it's good for the mind!"
>>>>
>>>> Methinks not if we wind up thinking like you N'esy Pas?
>>>>
>>>> 12 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Methinks Chiac should be a Proud
>>>> Maritimer's first choice N'esy Pas?
>>>>
>>>> 11 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Mario Doucet: nearly impossible ??? That is hard to process
>>>> .... i suppose if people are a little enthusiastic about life they can
>>>> learn and retain pretty much anything.
>>>>
>>>> 10 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane: coulda, woulda, mighta, shoulda ...
>>>>
>>>> 10 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @daryl doucette: does civility count as a subject in school?
>>>> I’m sure there are people who could benefit from a little training on
>>>> that subject. I wonder about natural aptitude though and how the lack
>>>> thereof could prove to be a real hindrance.
>>>>
>>>> 10 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @David R. Amos: minds are unfortunately a necessity that
>>>> isn’t available to all. Lol
>>>>
>>>> Just now
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Josef Blow: I should ask when are you slated to get a mind
>>>> with a conscience or at least some semblance of ethics? FYI I studied
>>>> French and Latin in my High School years in Fat Fred City before the
>>>> turncoat Minister Cardy and quite likely you were born. Furthermore
>>>> some of my classmates are seated Judges now and hate it when we cross
>>>> paths. Perhaps folks who truly care about democracy and justice should
>>>> study the Federal Court File No T-1557-15 to understand why French has
>>>> become irrelevant in Canada. Methinks if the British is Queen going to
>>>> bar a man from public properties and public Inquires she should do it
>>>> in two official languages just like she did once again with me within
>>>> the latest NB Power Rate hearings which began last night in Fat Fred
>>>> City N'esy Pas?
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Anyone can check out the EUB files in the 357, 375 and 430
>>>> Matters from the Internent but in you must go to Federal court to read
>>>> my files in the docket if you do not trust the one I present on the
>>>> Internet
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 06:55:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Golly Gosh Batman CBC has just revealed one of the many
reasons the EUB has barred me
To: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Cc: Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, Robert.Jones@cbc.ca,
David.Akin@globalnews.ca, Newsroom@globeandmail.com,
steve.murphy@ctv.ca, gthomas@nbpower.com, jfurey@nbpower.com,
bplummer@nbpower.com, Marc.Belliveau@gnb.ca, Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca,
tj@burkelaw.ca, kelly@lamrockslaw.com, mike.holland@gnb.ca,
robert.mckee@gnb.ca, robert.gauvin@gnb.ca, kris.austin@gnb.ca,
rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca, michelle.conroy@gnb.ca, David.Coon@gnb.ca,
Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca, megan.mitton@gnb.ca, blaine.higgs@gnb.ca,
brian.gallant@gnb.ca, denis.landry2@gnb.ca, greg.byrne@gnb.ca,
Jack.Keir@gnb.ca, jeff.carr@gnb.ca, hugh.flemming@gnb.ca, pm@pm.gc.ca,
Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca, andre@jafaust.com, oldmaison@yahoo.com,
andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca, maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca,
leader@greenparty.ca, elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
NB Power CEO confident Joi Scientific investigations 'will go away'
NB Power has paid Florida company $13M in licensing fees for
mysterious technology
Karissa Donkin, Jacques Poitras, Alyssa Gould · CBC News · Posted: May
14, 2019 6:30 AM AT
10 Comments
David Amos
Methinks it should be a small wonder as to why I told off the EUB this
week N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
I see very psssimistic and defeatist people posting on here !
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Cry me a river
On 5/13/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
> Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic says
> Social Sharing
>
> Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
> Jacques Poitras, Karissa Donkin · CBC News · Posted: May 13, 2019 6:00 AM
> AT
>
>
> 78 Comments
>
>
> Wally Manza
> Why do I not have any confidence in Gaeten Thomas nor believe much what he
> says?
>
>
> David Amos
> Awaiting moderation
> Reply to @Wally Manza: Methinks folks should study all the files
> within the recent EUB Hearings about NB Power they are matters 430,
> 375 and 357 N'esy Pas?
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
>
> Marguerite Deschamps
> Reply to @Wally Manza: I could tell you why just like many posters on
> here. But it will not get published, I'm afraid.
>
> David Amos
> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Surprise Surprise Surprise
>
>
> On 5/13/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>
>> Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic
>> says
>>
>> Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for
>> now
>> Jacques Poitras, Karissa Donkin · CBC News · Posted: May 13, 2019 6:00 AM
>> AT
>>
>>
>> https://www.nuclearsafety.gc.
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 12:41:05 -0400
>> Subject: YO Mikey Holland Methinks my little speech and the EUB
>> hearing last night has had an effect N'esy Pas?
>> To: "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, tj <tj@burkelaw.ca>, kelly
>> <kelly@lamrockslaw.com>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)" <mike.holland@gnb.ca>,
>> "robert.mckee" <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
>> <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
>> "rick.desaulniers" <rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca>, "michelle.conroy"
>> <michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau,
>> Kevin (LEG)" <Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan (LEG)"
>> <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
>> "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"
>> <denis.landry2@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir"
>> <Jack.Keir@gnb.ca>, "jeff.carr" <jeff.carr@gnb.ca>, "hugh.flemming"
>> <hugh.flemming@gnb.ca>
>> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
>> "Katie.Telford" <Katie.Telford@pmo-cpm.gc.ca>, andre
>> <andre@jafaust.com>, oldmaison <oldmaison@yahoo.com>, "andrew.scheer"
>> <andrew.scheer@parl.gc.ca>, "maxime.bernier"
>> <maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca>, leader <leader@greenparty.ca>,
>> "elizabeth.may" <elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca>
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>
>> Jimmy Moore
>> Reply to @: David Amos isn't qualified to fix anything in my opinion,
>> he isn't even allowed at most hearing and all his legal challenges
>> have amounted to nothing but a waste of taxpayer money
>>
>> David R. Amos
>> Reply to @Jimmy Moore: Is that your real name?
>>
>> On 5/10/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Holland, Mike Hon. (ERD/DER)" <Mike.Holland@gnb.ca>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 13:00:08 +0000
>>> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Dominic Cardy are your ears burning today?
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are
>>> greatly valued. You can be assured that all emails and letters are
>>> carefully read, reviewed and taken into consideration.
>>>
>>> If your issue is Constituency related, please contact Cheryl Layton at
>>> my constituency office in Albert at (506) 856-4961 or
>>> Cheryl.Layton@gnb.ca.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your email!
>>> Mike Holland
>>> Minister
>>> MLA, Albert
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
>>> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
>>> tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
>>> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons.
>>>
>>> Si votre courriel est lié à un enjeu de circonscription, veuillez
>>> contacter Cheryl Layton à mon bureau de circonscription dans Albert au
>>> (506) 856-4961 ou Cheryl.Layton@gnb.ca.
>>>
>>> Merci encore pour votre courriel!
>>> Mike Holland
>>> Ministre
>>> Député, Albert
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>>
>>> French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Allison
>>> My Little Girls school does not have French Immersion. Time to hold a
>>> Referendum on Bilingualism.
>>>
>>> 23 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: yes, lets get rid of it
>>>
>>> 21 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: Maybe you should do like every has too when a
>>> school is not available for their kids they move where there is one.
>>>
>>> 19 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Joseph Vachier: you cannot. It's enshrined in the
>>> Constitution.
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: the French extremists that wrote the
>>> "Official Languages Act" of New Brunswick " back in the day" made sure
>>> that " bilingualism" would be exempt from any " referendum" issues in
>>> the future. In other words, we cannot have a referendum on
>>> bilingualism, unless we open the constitution of Canada , which will
>>> not happen because Quebec would have to agree to it. they got us good
>>> folks!
>>>
>>> 13 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @daryl doucette:
>>> Vendue!
>>>
>>> 13 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @daryl doucette: No they don't. Amos says NB doesn't have a
>>> constipation.
>>>
>>> 25 minutes ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Good word..."enshrined"...dug in like
>>> an Alabama tick....
>>>
>>> 24 minutes ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane: you have a point there....I forget but yeah
>>> maybe Quebec did not sign it in '82....some one please clarify
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Carr, Jeff Hon. (ELG/EGL)" <Jeff.Carr@gnb.ca>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 13:00:08 +0000
>>> Subject: Automatic reply: YO Dominic Cardy are your ears burning today?
>>> To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email. Your thoughts, comments and input are greatly
>>> valued.
>>>
>>> You can be assured that all emails and letters are carefully read,
>>> reviewed and taken into consideration. There may be occasions when,
>>> given the issues you have raised and the need to address them
>>> effectively, we will forward a copy of your correspondence to the
>>> appropriate government official. Accordingly, a response may take
>>> several business days. If your issue is Constituency related, please
>>> contact Roseann at my Constituency office in Fredericton Junction at
>>> roseann.smith@gnb.ca or 368-2938. Thanks again for your email. ______
>>> Merci pour votre courriel. Nous vous sommes très reconnaissants de
>>> nous avoir fait part de vos idées, commentaires et observations. Nous
>>> tenons à vous assurer que nous lisons attentivement et prenons en
>>> considération tous les courriels et lettres que nous recevons. Dans
>>> certains cas, nous transmettrons votre message au ministère
>>> responsable afin que les questions soulevées puissent être traitées de
>>> la manière la plus efficace possible. En conséquence, plusieurs jours
>>> ouvrables pourraient s’écouler avant que nous puissions vous répondre.
>>> Si votre courriel est lié à une issue de circonscription, veuillez
>>> contacter Roseann à mon bureau de circonscription à Fredericton
>>> Junction à roseann.smith@gnb.ca ou 368-2938. Merci encore pour votre
>>> courriel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>>>
>>>> French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marguerite Deschamps
>>>> Come on Anglophones; you've smarter than that! Learn another language,
>>>> it's good for the mind!
>>>>
>>>> 18 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
>>>> The problem is not learning another language but when we live in North
>>>> America it is nearly impossible to retain and use what we learn.
>>>>
>>>> 17 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Might try learning Mi'kmaq, they may
>>>> be the overlords over all of South East NB, Shediac, Moncton,
>>>> Dieppe...
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane:
>>>> And so they should...........
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Dan Lee: When they went to war with other tribes over
>>>> territory what happened? When they sided with one group over the
>>>> other, when they fought with the French over the British and then the
>>>> British over the French and then the Americans and then the British
>>>> again when the British were winning over the Americans...how is it so
>>>> they should? If the Americans won? If the French won?
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane:
>>>> Read of most treaties......British would speak the treaty and write on
>>>> paper differantly......i have a portrait of an old map which shows
>>>> here native land was......
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: ok marguerite...go learn Chinese. Be
>>>> good for your mind.
>>>>
>>>> 16 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and Mandarin Chinese should be anyone's first choice for a second
>>>> language.
>>>>
>>>> 15 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Dan Lee: To be brutal honest with you I don't disagree with
>>>> the message, I disagree with the method. It should be all Canadians
>>>> together. What we have is Divide and Conquer method by the Government
>>>> of Canada ™️
>>>>
>>>> 12 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "it's good for the mind!"
>>>>
>>>> Methinks not if we wind up thinking like you N'esy Pas?
>>>>
>>>> 12 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Methinks Chiac should be a Proud
>>>> Maritimer's first choice N'esy Pas?
>>>>
>>>> 11 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Mario Doucet: nearly impossible ??? That is hard to process
>>>> .... i suppose if people are a little enthusiastic about life they can
>>>> learn and retain pretty much anything.
>>>>
>>>> 10 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane: coulda, woulda, mighta, shoulda ...
>>>>
>>>> 10 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @daryl doucette: does civility count as a subject in school?
>>>> I’m sure there are people who could benefit from a little training on
>>>> that subject. I wonder about natural aptitude though and how the lack
>>>> thereof could prove to be a real hindrance.
>>>>
>>>> 10 hours ago
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @David R. Amos: minds are unfortunately a necessity that
>>>> isn’t available to all. Lol
>>>>
>>>> Just now
>>>>
>>>> Reply to @Josef Blow: I should ask when are you slated to get a mind
>>>> with a conscience or at least some semblance of ethics? FYI I studied
>>>> French and Latin in my High School years in Fat Fred City before the
>>>> turncoat Minister Cardy and quite likely you were born. Furthermore
>>>> some of my classmates are seated Judges now and hate it when we cross
>>>> paths. Perhaps folks who truly care about democracy and justice should
>>>> study the Federal Court File No T-1557-15 to understand why French has
>>>> become irrelevant in Canada. Methinks if the British is Queen going to
>>>> bar a man from public properties and public Inquires she should do it
>>>> in two official languages just like she did once again with me within
>>>> the latest NB Power Rate hearings which began last night in Fat Fred
>>>> City N'esy Pas?
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Anyone can check out the EUB files in the 357, 375 and 430
>>>> Matters from the Internent but in you must go to Federal court to read
>>>> my files in the docket if you do not trust the one I present on the
>>>> Internet
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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'This reeks': MLAs want accountability on NB Power's hydrogen venture
Utility, province paid $13M in licensing fees for supposed revolutionary tech
NB Power has struck a deal with Joi Scientific, a Florida-based clean-energy startup, to develop power stations that would convert seawater to hydrogen electricity. (Michael Heenan/CBC)
Listen to the full CBC New Brunswick Political Panel podcast by downloading from the CBC Podcast page or subscribing to the podcast in iTunes.
Opposition MLAs want NB Power and the provincial government to answer burning questions surrounding the utility's venture with a Florida company, claiming it has breakthrough clean-energy technology.
NB Power and the province paid Joi Scientific $13 million in licensing fees for the secretive process that generates hydrogen from seawater. The company asserts that it can create more energy — 200 per cent more, according to one of its patents — than what was put in.
Yet, the claim has raised the eyebrows of some experts. Vancouver energy consultant Michael Barnard said it "sounds too good to be true."
"This is Nobel Prize-winning stuff and it's obviously not viable," he told CBC News.
"This smells so bad," said Green Party Leader David Coon. "This reeks all the way from Florida to here."
On top of questioning the viability of the technology, Coon wants to know why NB Power and the Regional Development Corporation, which split the $13 million in fees, spent public money on suspect technology in Florida that could be invested in New Brunswick companies and universities producing clean-energy projects.
Green Party Leader David Coon has plenty of questions for NB Power and the Regional Development Corporation on the deal with Joi Scientific. (CBC)
"NB Power's mandate is not research and development," he said. "You can read the Electricity Act. It's not there."
The process remains secret because both the utility and Joi say revealing how it works now would tip off competitors.
People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin described the venture as "high risk and no accountability."
Joi Scientific has been hesitant to reveal secrets behind what would be a major scientific breakthrough, pending further patents.
"I think it's way too big of a gamble," Austin said. "I hope I'm wrong. I hope they have a eureka moment through this technology and it revolutionizes energy as we know it."
Both he and Coon want to understand how the deal was approved — and they're not the only ones.
Energy minister still seeking answers
Energy and Resource Development Minister Mike Holland, said he's still trying to get answers from the utility.
Holland said on the podcast he had a brief chat with NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas about the matter and has been speaking to staff, but he is still trying to understand the framework of the agreement and how it came to be.
Energy and Resource Development Minister Mike Holland speaks during the CBC New Brunswick Political Panel Podcast. (CBC)
"In theory, if that's a project that can bear fruit and do what it says it's going to do, that's tremendous," he said. "But I still need to get to the bottom of it because I'm accountable to the ratepayer, the taxpayer and I got to get a handle on it."
Holland said he will have more access to the secret information because he is the minister.
"Good luck," Coon responded.
'It's possible,' says NB Power CEO
Thomas, who sits on Joi's board, told CBC News he and his colleagues "came out of there actually believing that it's possible, this energy in-and-out, based on what we see in the lab."
Thomas nor NB Power own any stake in the company, and the CEO is not paid for his board duties.
The license agreement gives the utility first right to use it for power generation. NB Power could then market it outside the province and share in the profits.
NB Power hopes it could power the Belledune generating station beyond 2030, when coal is phased out. Alternatively, NB Power would build as many as 20 or 30 smaller hydrogen generating plants around the province.
With files from Jacques Poitras and Karissa Donkin
NB Power CEO confident Joi Scientific investigations 'will go away'
NB Power has paid Florida company $13M in licensing fees for mysterious technology
A Florida startup involved in a
multi-million-dollar hydrogen partnership with NB Power is the subject
of two related investigations by two separate agencies in Florida,
according to public records in that state.
But NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas said he is "confident" the investigations involving Joi Scientific, which has received $13 million in licensing fees from NB Power, "will go away."
"We believe that there has been no alleged violation and we believe it comes from a former disgruntled employee," Thomas said.
That includes an open and ongoing investigation by the Florida Office of Financial Regulation, the state's financial services regulator.
Both Thomas and Kennedy say they only learned about the second investigation, by the Brevard County Sheriff's Office in Cape Canaveral, Fla., when CBC News brought it to their attention last week.
That investigation involves a complaint of alleged extortion reported in 2018 by a former Joi Scientific executive. The police investigation is suspended pending the findings by the regulatory agency, according to Sgt. Chris Cardinal with the Brevard County Sheriff's Office.
"It's like deconflicting with other agencies — who's got the bigger case — and let them do their case," Cardinal said in an interview.
"Then once they're done, then we would pick up and say 'OK, now let's look at what we have and see if we can make any other case.'"
Cardinal confirmed he didn't speak to or contact anyone with Joi Scientific because of the "ongoing investigation" by the Office of Financial Regulation.
Neither investigation has resulted in a finding of wrongdoing involving Joi Scientific or its executives.
Kennedy said the company was asked to turn over information to the Florida Office of Financial Regulation in early 2018 and did so but hasn't heard anything since then.
"No allegations have been made or further questions have been asked," Kennedy said.
"We're assuming that we're in full compliance and must have satisfied the authorities."
NB
Power has partnered with Joi Scientific to license technology the
company claims can convert seawater to hydrogen energy on demand. (Michael Heenan/CBC)
A
spokesperson for the regulatory agency wouldn't provide any further
details on the nature of the investigation, other than to say it remains
open and is continuing. That investigation began Nov. 14, 2017, the
spokesperson confirmed via email.
Some details about the complaint to the sheriff's office are laid out in a police report written by Cardinal with the Brevard County Sheriff's Office in Cape Canaveral, where Joi Scientific is located within the Kennedy Space Center's Space Life Sciences Lab. Many details have been redacted from the report.
Joseph Wiendl, who was chief financial officer with Joi Scientific until Oct. 20, 2016, told police he was given an alleged "extortion letter demanding he step away from the company," according to the report.
Wiendl alleged he was given the letter by two people, whose names have been redacted from the report, on Oct. 20, 2016 at a condominium, the report says. He contacted police on April 12, 2018.
According to the police report, an investigator with the Florida Office of Financial Regulation was already looking into Wiendl's claims by the time he went to police. Cardinal wrote that he told Wiendl he would contact the investigator from the regulatory agency and "ascertain where her investigation was at and then go from there with his claims of extortion."
Joi
Scientific has been hesitant to reveal secrets behind what would be a
major scientific breakthrough, pending further patents.
Through his lawyer, Wiendl said he is unable to comment.
Kennedy said the police complaint was "news to us."
"Unless we're notified by them [the sheriff's office] and requested for anything, as far as I know, this is either suspended or is going away or whatever," he said.
When asked whether he gave an extortion letter to Wiendl, Kennedy said, "I don't think any company would try to extort something from someone who is actually leaving the company anyway."
Kennedy said he cannot talk about employment matters, so he cannot say why Wiendl is no longer with Joi Scientific.
But Kennedy said he saw the parting at the time as being "on amicable terms."
"If there's something that a former employee is alleging and we can't even see what that is, it's a little hard for me to make any kind of comment," he said.
Thomas said the same thing happens at NB Power from time to time, when someone who is "disgruntled" makes a complaint.
Police
in Brevard County in Florida filed this report after receiving
allegations of extortion from a former Joi Scientific executive. (Brevard County Sheriff's Office)
"They go and make a complaint to the ombudsman or to some regulation and it's unfortunate but it happens," Thomas said.
Wiendl filed three separate court actions against Joi Scientific on Oct. 20, 2017, one year later.
That includes one accusing Joi Scientific of failing to transfer ownership of his Cocoa Beach home to him, after the company helped him finance the home during divorce proceedings.
The transaction happened in December 2015. NB Power was in discussions with the company in 2016, while Wiendl was still an employee.
According to court documents, Joi Scientific paid Wiendl $90,781 as bridge financing "for a down payment and transaction costs for the acquisition of a residence."
It also borrowed a $328,000 mortgage from a private lender in order to secure the house for Wiendl.
According to Wiendl's complaint, the house was supposed to be transferred to his name as soon as the divorce was finalized, but that didn't happen.
Kennedy says the company was helping Wiendl provide for his children, before the dispute.
"He needed a home for his kids," Kennedy said. "We decided that we would help him to provide for those children."
All of the litigation involving the company and Wiendl was settled and the terms are confidential.
NB Power declined comment on the dispute over the house.
Joi Scientific claims to have developed an efficient way to generate hydrogen gas from seawater on demand, something NB Power hopes will hold the key to powering the Belledune generating station beyond 2030, when coal is phased out.
Opening
in 1993, the Belledune Generating Station was built to last until 2040.
But with the federal Lliberal government's pledge to eliminate
coal-fired electricity generation, it will now close in 2030. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)
Alternatively, NB Power would build multiple smaller hydrogen generating plants around the province.
But Joi is hesitant to reveal secrets behind what would be a major scientific breakthrough, pending further patents.
"In order to keep all of our licensees, including New Brunswick Power, safe and to have their licences have meaningful value, we need to be careful about what we divulge," Kennedy said.
A Vancouver-based energy consultant has described the technology as "too good to be true," but Kennedy said the company has already proved to its customers that its technology works.
The utility has paid Joi Scientific $13 million Canadian to license the technology, giving the utility first right to use it for power generation. NB Power could then market it outside the province and share in the profits.
CBC's Journalistic Standards and PracticesBut NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas said he is "confident" the investigations involving Joi Scientific, which has received $13 million in licensing fees from NB Power, "will go away."
"We believe that there has been no alleged violation and we believe it comes from a former disgruntled employee," Thomas said.
That includes an open and ongoing investigation by the Florida Office of Financial Regulation, the state's financial services regulator.
- Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic says
- Turning seawater into electricity: NB Power's untested idea for Belledune
Both Thomas and Kennedy say they only learned about the second investigation, by the Brevard County Sheriff's Office in Cape Canaveral, Fla., when CBC News brought it to their attention last week.
That investigation involves a complaint of alleged extortion reported in 2018 by a former Joi Scientific executive. The police investigation is suspended pending the findings by the regulatory agency, according to Sgt. Chris Cardinal with the Brevard County Sheriff's Office.
"It's like deconflicting with other agencies — who's got the bigger case — and let them do their case," Cardinal said in an interview.
"Then once they're done, then we would pick up and say 'OK, now let's look at what we have and see if we can make any other case.'"
Cardinal confirmed he didn't speak to or contact anyone with Joi Scientific because of the "ongoing investigation" by the Office of Financial Regulation.
'We're assuming that we're in full compliance'
Neither investigation has resulted in a finding of wrongdoing involving Joi Scientific or its executives.
Kennedy said the company was asked to turn over information to the Florida Office of Financial Regulation in early 2018 and did so but hasn't heard anything since then.
"No allegations have been made or further questions have been asked," Kennedy said.
"We're assuming that we're in full compliance and must have satisfied the authorities."
Company denies extortion allegation
Some details about the complaint to the sheriff's office are laid out in a police report written by Cardinal with the Brevard County Sheriff's Office in Cape Canaveral, where Joi Scientific is located within the Kennedy Space Center's Space Life Sciences Lab. Many details have been redacted from the report.
Joseph Wiendl, who was chief financial officer with Joi Scientific until Oct. 20, 2016, told police he was given an alleged "extortion letter demanding he step away from the company," according to the report.
Wiendl alleged he was given the letter by two people, whose names have been redacted from the report, on Oct. 20, 2016 at a condominium, the report says. He contacted police on April 12, 2018.
According to the police report, an investigator with the Florida Office of Financial Regulation was already looking into Wiendl's claims by the time he went to police. Cardinal wrote that he told Wiendl he would contact the investigator from the regulatory agency and "ascertain where her investigation was at and then go from there with his claims of extortion."
Kennedy said the police complaint was "news to us."
"Unless we're notified by them [the sheriff's office] and requested for anything, as far as I know, this is either suspended or is going away or whatever," he said.
When asked whether he gave an extortion letter to Wiendl, Kennedy said, "I don't think any company would try to extort something from someone who is actually leaving the company anyway."
Kennedy said he cannot talk about employment matters, so he cannot say why Wiendl is no longer with Joi Scientific.
But Kennedy said he saw the parting at the time as being "on amicable terms."
"If there's something that a former employee is alleging and we can't even see what that is, it's a little hard for me to make any kind of comment," he said.
Thomas said the same thing happens at NB Power from time to time, when someone who is "disgruntled" makes a complaint.
Bought employee's home during divorce
Wiendl filed three separate court actions against Joi Scientific on Oct. 20, 2017, one year later.
That includes one accusing Joi Scientific of failing to transfer ownership of his Cocoa Beach home to him, after the company helped him finance the home during divorce proceedings.
The transaction happened in December 2015. NB Power was in discussions with the company in 2016, while Wiendl was still an employee.
According to court documents, Joi Scientific paid Wiendl $90,781 as bridge financing "for a down payment and transaction costs for the acquisition of a residence."
It also borrowed a $328,000 mortgage from a private lender in order to secure the house for Wiendl.
According to Wiendl's complaint, the house was supposed to be transferred to his name as soon as the divorce was finalized, but that didn't happen.
Kennedy says the company was helping Wiendl provide for his children, before the dispute.
"He needed a home for his kids," Kennedy said. "We decided that we would help him to provide for those children."
All of the litigation involving the company and Wiendl was settled and the terms are confidential.
NB Power declined comment on the dispute over the house.
NB Power paid $13 million to license technology
Joi Scientific claims to have developed an efficient way to generate hydrogen gas from seawater on demand, something NB Power hopes will hold the key to powering the Belledune generating station beyond 2030, when coal is phased out.
But Joi is hesitant to reveal secrets behind what would be a major scientific breakthrough, pending further patents.
"In order to keep all of our licensees, including New Brunswick Power, safe and to have their licences have meaningful value, we need to be careful about what we divulge," Kennedy said.
A Vancouver-based energy consultant has described the technology as "too good to be true," but Kennedy said the company has already proved to its customers that its technology works.
The utility has paid Joi Scientific $13 million Canadian to license the technology, giving the utility first right to use it for power generation. NB Power could then market it outside the province and share in the profits.
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Methinks folks should study all the files within the recent EUB Hearings about NB Power They are matters 430, 375 and 357 N'esy Pas?
https://davidraymondamos3.blogspot.com/2019/05/science-behind-nb-powers-hydrogen.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-gaetan-thomas-1.5131620
Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic says
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Wally Manza
Why do I not have any confidence in Gaeten Thomas nor believe much what he says?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Wally Manza: I could tell you why just like many posters on here. But it will not get published, I'm afraid.
David Amos
Reply to @Wally
Manza: Methinks folks should study all the files within the recent EUB
Hearings about NB Power they are matters 430, 375 and 357 N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearing-nb-power-rate-design-smart-meters-1.4305685
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearing-nb-power-rate-design-smart-meters-1.4305685
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Surprise Surprise Surprise
Bernard McIntyre
And this statement he believes this prosses work from the experiments, coming from the person who believes electric cars has no maintenance to be preformed on them. No wonder N.B Power is in such a mess. Has he never heard of the Bricklin. Why would these people come to N.B power, well I just said it.
Marc LeBlanc
Reply to @Bernard McIntyre: You nailed it when you said "why would they come here?
For the same reason Bricklin did.
For the same reason Bricklin did.
BruceJack Speculator
Reply to @Bernard
McIntyre: And there was "orimulsion" . . . spending millions to
change a generating plant without a contract to provide the special
fuel. There also used to be a scam called "electricity amplification"
from I believe Australia . . . they never provided a working example
either but promised more energy out than in. Embarrassing and expensive
for all of us.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @BruceJack Speculator: the orimulsion was the works of the CONservatives under Bernard Lord.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: YUP
Bernard McIntyre
Reply to @David Amos: And of course call centers from Frank McKennna, not all but most low paying jobs and the one whom most benefited was Frank McKenna.
Dianne MacPherson
Why all the skepticism?
Many ratepayers don't think highly of Mr. Thomas
as we tend to blame him for everything wrong that
happens in that taxpayer-funded Company.
Give him the benefit of the doubt and hope
that the Govt. is keeping on top of this endeavor !!!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Dianne MacPherson: Yea Right
Larry Larson
P.T. Barnum was so right!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Larry Larson: YUP
Daryl Doucette
Another Atcon type deal...lots of our tax dollars mysteriously disappear.....into some ones back pocket.
David R. Amos
Reply to @daryl doucette: YUP
Brian Robertson
This has a definite Bricklyn feel about it.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Brian Robertson: If it looks like a duck walks like a duck etc etc
Ian Scott
"If it does not work NB will not be repaid" , that is because the money has gone to its board of directors?
Debi Mcdonald
Reply to @Ian Scott: Would be interesting to see who/whom are on that very board.
Ian Scott
Reply to @debi mcdonald: Well one of them is Gaetan Thomas.
David R. Amos
Reply to @debi mcdonald: A few Yankees
Murray Brown
Ok... So it is too good to be true, but they watched some magical stuff and they said... Hey..... Here's millions and there's plenty more where that came from because we're NB Power and we have plenty of money to throw away. Just look at our fleet of electric cars that cost more money to operate and maintain than our regular fleet of cars. Or check out that deal with Venezuela that cost us tons of money. We never run out of money.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Murray
Brown: it's a well known fact that electric vehicles are much cheaper to
maintain than those wirh internal combustion engines. Electric motors
are simple with hardly no moving parts. The whole car has less moving
parts and needs little maintenance.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Nope
Reply to @David Amos: yup!
Marguerite Deschamps
Just a minute. No one is disputing that you cannot violate one of the fundamental laws of thermodynamics: that in a closed system, energy can only be transformed, not created or destroyed.
As with combustibles, the energy is already stored in the fuel. All you need is a spark to get the fire going. The hydrogen is stored in sea water. Who knows if this technology is not able to release it? If we had listened to the naysayers, we would still be travelling by horse and buggy.
Like the blacksmiths before, the fossil fuel proponents will have none of it like the CONservatives who cater to them.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks everybody knows how to have fun with sodium hydride N'esy Pas?
Fred Brewer
What is next? NB Power investing in cold fusion? This whole scheme smacks of smoke and mirrors and in the end the ratepayers have no choice but to fund it. The EUB needs to shut this whole project down immediately.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Fred Brewer: would you rather support fracking while the US is awash in natural gas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Fred Brewer: Check out their plan to sell mini nukes
David R. Amos
Golly Gosh Batman CBC has just revealed one of the many reasons the EUB has barred me
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Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 10:01:18 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Golly Gosh Batman CBC has just revealed one
of the many reasons the EUB has barred me
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Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 12:53:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Golly Gosh Batman CBC has just revealed one of the many
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To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>, Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca,
Robert.Jones@cbc.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
Newsroom@globeandmail.com, steve.murphy@ctv.ca, gthomas@nbpower.com,
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Wally Manza
Why do I not have any confidence in Gaeten Thomas nor believe much what he says?
David Amos
Awaiting moderation
Reply to @Wally Manza: Methinks folks should study all the files
within the recent EUB Hearings about NB Power they are matters 430,
375 and 357 N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Wally Manza: I could tell you why just like many posters on
here. But it will not get published, I'm afraid.
David Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Surprise Surprise Surprise
On 5/13/19, David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>
> Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic says
>
> Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
> Jacques Poitras, Karissa Donkin · CBC News · Posted: May 13, 2019 6:00 AM
> AT
>
>
> https://www.nuclearsafety.gc.
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 12:41:05 -0400
> Subject: YO Mikey Holland Methinks my little speech and the EUB
> hearing last night has had an effect N'esy Pas?
> To: "Dominic.Cardy" <Dominic.Cardy@gnb.ca>, tj <tj@burkelaw.ca>, kelly
> <kelly@lamrockslaw.com>, "Holland, Mike (LEG)" <mike.holland@gnb.ca>,
> "robert.mckee" <robert.mckee@gnb.ca>, "robert.gauvin"
> <robert.gauvin@gnb.ca>, "kris.austin" <kris.austin@gnb.ca>,
> "rick.desaulniers" <rick.desaulniers@gnb.ca>, "michelle.conroy"
> <michelle.conroy@gnb.ca>, "David.Coon" <David.Coon@gnb.ca>, "Arseneau,
> Kevin (LEG)" <Kevin.A.Arseneau@gnb.ca>, "Mitton, Megan (LEG)"
> <megan.mitton@gnb.ca>, "blaine.higgs" <blaine.higgs@gnb.ca>,
> "brian.gallant" <brian.gallant@gnb.ca>, "denis.landry2"
> <denis.landry2@gnb.ca>, "greg.byrne" <greg.byrne@gnb.ca>, "Jack.Keir"
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> Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
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> Jimmy Moore
> Reply to @: David Amos isn't qualified to fix anything in my opinion,
> he isn't even allowed at most hearing and all his legal challenges
> have amounted to nothing but a waste of taxpayer money
>
> David R. Amos
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> On 5/10/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
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>>
>> Aaron Allison
>> My Little Girls school does not have French Immersion. Time to hold a
>> Referendum on Bilingualism.
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>> 23 hours ago
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>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: yes, lets get rid of it
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>> 21 hours ago
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>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: Maybe you should do like every has too when a
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>> Reply to @Aaron Allison: the French extremists that wrote the
>> "Official Languages Act" of New Brunswick " back in the day" made sure
>> that " bilingualism" would be exempt from any " referendum" issues in
>> the future. In other words, we cannot have a referendum on
>> bilingualism, unless we open the constitution of Canada , which will
>> not happen because Quebec would have to agree to it. they got us good
>> folks!
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>> 13 hours ago
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>> On 5/10/19, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/
>>>
>>> French immersion entry point remains at Grade 1 — for now
>>>
>>>
>>> Marguerite Deschamps
>>> Come on Anglophones; you've smarter than that! Learn another language,
>>> it's good for the mind!
>>>
>>> 18 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
>>> The problem is not learning another language but when we live in North
>>> America it is nearly impossible to retain and use what we learn.
>>>
>>> 17 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Might try learning Mi'kmaq, they may
>>> be the overlords over all of South East NB, Shediac, Moncton,
>>> Dieppe...
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane:
>>> And so they should...........
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Dan Lee: When they went to war with other tribes over
>>> territory what happened? When they sided with one group over the
>>> other, when they fought with the French over the British and then the
>>> British over the French and then the Americans and then the British
>>> again when the British were winning over the Americans...how is it so
>>> they should? If the Americans won? If the French won?
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane:
>>> Read of most treaties......British would speak the treaty and write on
>>> paper differantly......i have a portrait of an old map which shows
>>> here native land was......
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: ok marguerite...go learn Chinese. Be
>>> good for your mind.
>>>
>>> 16 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps:
>>>
>>> Yes, and Mandarin Chinese should be anyone's first choice for a second
>>> language.
>>>
>>> 15 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Dan Lee: To be brutal honest with you I don't disagree with
>>> the message, I disagree with the method. It should be all Canadians
>>> together. What we have is Divide and Conquer method by the Government
>>> of Canada ™️
>>>
>>> 12 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "it's good for the mind!"
>>>
>>> Methinks not if we wind up thinking like you N'esy Pas?
>>>
>>> 12 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Methinks Chiac should be a Proud
>>> Maritimer's first choice N'esy Pas?
>>>
>>> 11 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Mario Doucet: nearly impossible ??? That is hard to process
>>> .... i suppose if people are a little enthusiastic about life they can
>>> learn and retain pretty much anything.
>>>
>>> 10 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @Shawn McShane: coulda, woulda, mighta, shoulda ...
>>>
>>> 10 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @daryl doucette: does civility count as a subject in school?
>>> I’m sure there are people who could benefit from a little training on
>>> that subject. I wonder about natural aptitude though and how the lack
>>> thereof could prove to be a real hindrance.
>>>
>>> 10 hours ago
>>>
>>> Reply to @David R. Amos: minds are unfortunately a necessity that
>>> isn’t available to all. Lol
>>>
>>> Just now
>>>
>>> Reply to @Josef Blow: I should ask when are you slated to get a mind
>>> with a conscience or at least some semblance of ethics? FYI I studied
>>> French and Latin in my High School years in Fat Fred City before the
>>> turncoat Minister Cardy and quite likely you were born. Furthermore
>>> some of my classmates are seated Judges now and hate it when we cross
>>> paths. Perhaps folks who truly care about democracy and justice should
>>> study the Federal Court File No T-1557-15 to understand why French has
>>> become irrelevant in Canada. Methinks if the British is Queen going to
>>> bar a man from public properties and public Inquires she should do it
>>> in two official languages just like she did once again with me within
>>> the latest NB Power Rate hearings which began last night in Fat Fred
>>> City N'esy Pas?
>>>
>>> P.S. Anyone can check out the EUB files in the 357, 375 and 430
>>> Matters from the Internent but in you must go to Federal court to read
>>> my files in the docket if you do not trust the one I present on the
>>> Internet
>>>
>>
>
Science behind NB Power's hydrogen venture too good to be true, critic says
Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
Two partners in what they claim is a
revolutionary new clean-energy technology are sounding different notes
about just how revolutionary it is.
The CEO of Florida company Joi Scientific, which has sold the technology to NB Power, says while the new hydrogen-energy process could lead to "the world's first zero carbon grid" in New Brunswick, it doesn't break the laws of physics.
But NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas said after seeing firsthand seawater turned into hydrogen energy, he believes the process lives up to its hype.
Thomas told CBC News that he and his colleagues "came out of there actually believing that it's possible, this energy in-and-out, based on what we see in the lab."
The CEO of Florida company Joi Scientific, which has sold the technology to NB Power, says while the new hydrogen-energy process could lead to "the world's first zero carbon grid" in New Brunswick, it doesn't break the laws of physics.
But NB Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas said after seeing firsthand seawater turned into hydrogen energy, he believes the process lives up to its hype.
Thomas told CBC News that he and his colleagues "came out of there actually believing that it's possible, this energy in-and-out, based on what we see in the lab."
'Too good to be true'
Critics are warning that Joi's claims that its secret process can produce more energy than what's required to power it is not realistic.
"This sounds too good to be true," said Vancouver energy consultant Michael Barnard. "And it is."
This is Nobel Prize-winning stuff and it's obviously not viable.-Michael BarnardIt's impossible for ratepayers to know for sure because both the utility and Joi say revealing how it works now would tip off competitors.
Barnard said several of the claims would violate one of the fundamental laws of thermodynamics: that in a closed system, energy can only be transformed, not created or destroyed.
Among the assertions: A promotional video on Joi's website said the process "takes a tiny amount of energy to start a chemical process, making enough hydrogen to power the process itself and generate plenty more for use in fuel cells and engines and boilers."
More energy out than in
One of Joi's patents claims the process generates "200 per cent" of the energy put into it.
"For one watt of input energy, two watts of energy in the form of hydrogen gas is achieved," the patent says.
And NB Power vice-president Brett Plummer told a Senate committee last month that the research and development is focused on "making sure that we can get more energy out of the process than goes into the process."
"This is Nobel Prize-winning stuff and it's obviously not viable."
NB Power first revealed in December 2017 it was working with a private company on hydrogen, though it waited until February of this year to identify Joi.
The laws of physics
Willy Cook, who teaches chemical engineering at the University of New Brunswick, visited Joi's Florida lab and said he was impressed by what he saw, but "whether that substantiates the claims that they're getting a two-for-one, I can't go into that.
"From what I've seen I do not believe Joi Scientific is breaking any laws of thermodynamics."
"But just to clarify, we do not believe that in doing this, we're breaking any laws of physics. Especially not the first law of thermodynamics. We're just not that clever, and we don't think that can be done or that it's true."
Some sceptical of new technology
"We have seen results indicating, clearly indicating, independently witnessed, that it does produce more energy than in," Gaëtan Thomas said in an interview.
Thomas said people are skeptical because the technology is so new. He said it's not a chemical process, like existing and better-known methods for generating hydrogen power.
But Joi's video calls it a chemical process.
This is new technology that could benefit the whole country.-Gaëtan Thomas, NB Power CEOKennedy will only say that Joi uses the "the latent energy" in seawater, which is impossible in a conventional process like electrolysis.
The details, along with third-party verifications, remain secret for now.
"We can't talk about the technology in a public forum without eliminating our ability to file new patents because it would be in the public domain," Kennedy said.
"In order to keep all of our licensees, including New Brunswick Power, safe and to have their licences have meaningful value, we need to be careful about what we divulge."
Expert cautions EUB
Barnard said Kennedy's comments about using the "latent energy" in seawater doesn't change his assessment of the claims.
"It doesn't matter whether it's heat or electricity, you can't get more energy out than you put in," he said. "Yes, there is hydrogen in water, but it's stably bonded to oxygen and requires more energy, of any type, to extract than you get."
A U.S. energy expert has also sounded a cautious note, telling the Energy and Utilities Board that NB Power should not be funding the research out of its own budget.
Robert Knecht, a Massachusetts energy consultant hired by public intervener Heather Black, writes that with NB Power already planning annual rate increases of two per cent in its 10-year plan, "it becomes problematic to ask ratepayers to fund these research projects."
He said the research may be worthwhile but the provincial government should be funding it.
Kennedy says NB Power has paid Joi $10 million US or $13 million Cdn in licensing fees for the technology.
Of that, $6.7 million came from the Regional Development Corporation and the remainder from NB Power's own research budget.
Thomas said there is a potential impact on rates, "but when the risk of doing nothing causes a bigger impact on rates, we have to take the steps."
The $13 million licensing fee will give NB Power the first right to use the technology for power generation. It can then market the technology outside New Brunswick and share in the profits.
If the technology works on a large enough scale, the coal-fired Belledune plant could be converted to partly run on seawater from the nearby Bay of Chaleur.
The other alternative would be multiple smaller hydrogen generating plants — as many as 20 or 30 — around the province.
NB Power is talking to a manufacturer in Asia that would build the units. Thomas said it may take federal funding, or outside investment, to make it possible.
"This is new technology that could benefit the whole country," he said.
Testing still going on
Bruce MacFarlane, a spokesperson for the Regional Development Corporation, said "no other future payments are planned at this time" to NB Power for hydrogen.
Thomas said there's still "some debate" on the technology because it remains to be seen if the small experiments in Joi's lab can be reproduced on a large scale.
In written answers to the Energy and Utilities Board, NB Power's plans for having a prototype ready within two or three years are blacked out.
The document says that "advances in the laboratory prototype have been achieved and validated. Testing continues on the further development and scale-up of the prototype to a commercial prototype."
Under the heading "seawater to hydrogen," NB Power says in written answers that it forecasts "capital expenditures of this nature in the amount of $5 million in each year of the [10-year] plan" for the "referenced technology."
Utility won't get money back if testing fails
That would total $50 million, but NB Power spokesperson Marc Belliveau said that money is a "placeholder for unplanned/unexpected capital projects that may come up" in a given year and the money "has not been designated to Hydrogen."
But Thomas said some of it could be allocated to hydrogen if it becomes commercially viable.
NB Power is paying Joi what it calls a "reimbursable" licensing fee to become the first user of the company's technology in generating stations.
"When it [the technology] works, it will be reimbursable to NB Power," Thomas said.
If it doesn't work, Thomas said, NB Power won't be repaid, but the amount is small relative to the potential benefit.
Thomas has been named to Joi's board of directors, but neither he nor NB Power owns any stake in Joi, and Thomas isn't paid for his board duties.
Kennedy said Thomas was put on the board to have "direct insight into the goings-on of the company, what we're doing, how we're spending our time, how we're spending our money."
But Thomas said it's his experience with managing large projects that brings "value" to the Joi board and helps him grow that company.
With files from Alyssa Gould
CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practiceshttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearing-nb-power-rate-design-smart-meters-1.4305685
EUB punts rate hearing as NB Power studies $122M smart meter plan
EUB agrees to suspend hearing so it can deal first with NB Power's proposed $122M purchase of smart meters
An effort to redesign the way NB Power
charges customers for electricity — generally viewed as bad news for
those who heat with electricity — has been suspended by the New
Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board for one year.
The EUB has agreed to consider an upcoming NB Power application to spend $122 million on new "smart meters" for homes and businesses first.
Energy and Utilities Board chair Raymond Gorman says the board has delayed the rate design hearing for one year. (Pat Richard/CBC)
NB
Power has been under pressure from the EUB to better match prices it
charges for electricity to the cost of producing and distributing power.
That could see consumers paying substantially different prices for
power between summer and winter — even between day and night.
But the utility has argued there is little room to make substantial changes like that until its entire inventory of power meters is upgraded.
"It is NB Power's submission that the rate design proceeding is … premature because it does contemplate discussion of rate design options that might not be available depending on … (smart meter) deployment," NB Power's senior legal counsel John Furey said during arguments for the suspension.
Unlike current units that have to be physically visited to be read, smart meters will connect directly to NB Power computers, allowing individual customers to have electricity consumption tracked several times an hour instead of once a month.
The utility says this will allow it to charge a variety of rates for electricity — more when consumption is higher, such as in the mornings, on weekends and during winter — and less when consumption is lower.
"We are going from reading a customer's meter once a month, so 12 times a year, up to 12 times an hour," former NB Power executive Neil Larlee said during testimony in front of the EUB last February.
But the new meters are expensive, an estimated $92 million to acquire one for each customer and another $30 million to have them installed and made operational.
It's an expense that largely requires EUB approval, something the regulator is expected to hear evidence on this winter and rule on by next spring. NB Power said without that decision being made first, redesigning rates made little sense.
John
Furey, NB Power's senior legal counsel, argued for the delay in the
rate design hearing until the utility installs smart meters, which
record power usage more frequently. (LinkedIn)
Because those who heat with electricity consume large
amounts of power during high-demand cold snaps, the rate design process
is generally expected to result in higher costs for that group.
However, NB Power has argued smart meters will allow for enough discount periods that electric heat customers who move activities such as laundry, dishwashing and showers into the evening will be able to offset some or all of the increases they experience.
NB Power is expected to formally apply to buy and install smart meters provincewide within the next two weeks as part of its next general rate increase application.
The rate design hearing will resume next fall.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-experts-eub-1.4504618
The EUB has agreed to consider an upcoming NB Power application to spend $122 million on new "smart meters" for homes and businesses first.
"The
Board finds that the AMI (Advanced Metering Infrastructure) application
should precede the rate design hearing and therefore it is in the
public interest to grant an adjournment," ruled EUB chairman Raymond
Gorman in a brief hearing last week.
But the utility has argued there is little room to make substantial changes like that until its entire inventory of power meters is upgraded.
"It is NB Power's submission that the rate design proceeding is … premature because it does contemplate discussion of rate design options that might not be available depending on … (smart meter) deployment," NB Power's senior legal counsel John Furey said during arguments for the suspension.
Tracking more frequent
Unlike current units that have to be physically visited to be read, smart meters will connect directly to NB Power computers, allowing individual customers to have electricity consumption tracked several times an hour instead of once a month.
The utility says this will allow it to charge a variety of rates for electricity — more when consumption is higher, such as in the mornings, on weekends and during winter — and less when consumption is lower.
"We are going from reading a customer's meter once a month, so 12 times a year, up to 12 times an hour," former NB Power executive Neil Larlee said during testimony in front of the EUB last February.
Smart meters for $122M
But the new meters are expensive, an estimated $92 million to acquire one for each customer and another $30 million to have them installed and made operational.
It's an expense that largely requires EUB approval, something the regulator is expected to hear evidence on this winter and rule on by next spring. NB Power said without that decision being made first, redesigning rates made little sense.
"I
don't see how we can have a meaningful process … because we don't know
what rate design options are available or might be precluded in the
event the (smart meter) decision is not to deploy or to deploy," said
Furey.
However, NB Power has argued smart meters will allow for enough discount periods that electric heat customers who move activities such as laundry, dishwashing and showers into the evening will be able to offset some or all of the increases they experience.
NB Power is expected to formally apply to buy and install smart meters provincewide within the next two weeks as part of its next general rate increase application.
The rate design hearing will resume next fall.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-smart-meters-experts-eub-1.4504618
NB Power's smart meters plan not so smart, 2 expert reviews find
$122M-plan is poorly thought out, should be rejected by EUB, separately commissioned reports conclude
NB
Power's plan to spend $122.7 million over three years to deploy smart
meters for all its residential and commercial customers is poorly
thought out and should be rejected by the Energy and Utilities Board at
hearings next month, according to separate experts hired to review the
strategy.
"As currently proposed, the AMI [advanced metering infrastructure] project could commit NB Power and its customers to a heavy cost burden without fully defining and quantifying the future benefits to be gained," wrote Edmund Finamore, a smart meter consultant from Pennsylvania commissioned by public intervener Heather Black to scrutinize the plan.
"It is not clear that NB Power has implemented sufficient project management controls methods to execute a firm plan, achieve firm project milestones and control project costs."
- EUB punts rate hearing as NB Power studies $122M smart meter plan
- Seasonal power rates could cause consumer backlash, says consultant
"NB Power has significantly understated the costs and overstated the benefits of its AMI proposal," says the analysis by a group of five authors working for Synapse Energy Economics out of Cambridge, Mass.
"We recommend that the board reject the company's AMI proposal."
'Essential' to cleaner, more reliable grid
NB Power has been working toward upgrading its distribution system to a "smart grid" over the past six years and the wholesale installation of smart meters and other AMI to serve every customer has long been a centrepiece of the utility's plan.
Unlike current units that have to be physically visited to be read, smart meters will connect directly to NB Power computers, allowing individual customers to have electricity consumption tracked several times an hour instead of once a month.
The utility says this will allow it to charge a variety of rates for electricity — more when consumption is higher, such as in the mornings, on weekends and during winter — and less when consumption is lower.
That in turn will encourage consumers to shift demand to underutilized parts of the day, it says.
"We are going from reading a customer's meter once a month, so 12 times a year, up to 12 times an hour," former NB Power executive Neil Larlee said during testimony in front of the EUB last February.
The meters will also allow customers to sell electricity back to NB Power if they install solar or other power generating capability on their property and will give the utility instant information on outages, including the individual homes affected.
"This communication network along with the AMI meters is essential to a building smarter, cleaner, more reliable and efficient power grid and will lay the foundation for many of the long-term customer benefits that NB Power will deliver through its Energy Smart NB plan," said the utility in its application to the EUB to acquire the units.
Cost outweighs savings
But even NB Power acknowledges the cost of buying, installing and operating 355,000 new smart meters to blanket the province in a three-year rollout is high without enough savings to completely pay for it.
The utility has detailed 15 ways the new meters will cut expenses but the combined benefits total just $121.4 million That's $1.3 million less than the program is budgeted to cost.
Spending so much money on an initiative that is not essential and not cost effective is unwise.- Synapse reportBoth Finnamore and Synapse Energy disputed the value of several of the claimed savings as inflated and Synapse further argued since NB Power's own numbers show the investment in smart meters will cost money in the long run the case is too weak to proceed.
"The company's own analysis suggests that the proposal is not cost effective and that analysis suffers from some fundamental flaws," concluded the Synapse report.
"Spending so much money on an initiative that is not essential and not cost effective is unwise."
Proposal needs refining
Both consultants suggested if properly handled, the introduction of smart meters could benefit both NB Power and its customers, but each separately concluded the utility's plan lacks detail and a convincing rationale.
Both called for the application to be denied so the utility can offer a more refined proposal.
NB Power is facing a 12-day hearing in front of the Energy and Utilities Board beginning Feb. 8.
In addition to seeking permission to invest in smart meters, it is also attempting to win approval for an average two per cent rate increase it has proposed for April 1 and is asking for the flexibility to employ special rate increases when large unexpected weather or market events cause its costs to jump unexpectedly.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/eub-hearings-nb-power-smart-meters-1.4529640
Opting out smart meter program could cost NB Power customers
Power customers in British Columbia, Quebec have faced fees for refusing the installation of smart meters
NB
Power customers who do not want a smart meter installed on their home
could be facing a stiff fee for that decision, but so far the utility is
not saying how much it might be.
"It will be based on the principles of cost causation, but we have not gotten into the detail of what that fee would be at this point," said NB Power Senior Vice President of Operations Lori Clark at Energy and Utilities Board hearings on Friday.
In
other jurisdictions that have already adopted smart meters, customers
not wanting to participate have faced hundreds of dollars in extra
charges.
Thousands of pages of evidence on a number of issues, including smart meters, have been submitted for the 12-day hearing.
In
British Columbia, power customers are charged a meter reading fee of
$32.40 per month if they refuse a smart meter, or $20 per month if they
accept a smart meter but insist its radio transmitter be turned off.
That's a cost of between $240 and $388.80 per year for customers to opt
out.
In Quebec, smart meters were installed beginning in 2012. Customers who refused the devices were initially charged $98 to opt out plus a meter reading fee of $17 per month. That was eventually cut by Quebec's energy board in 2014 to a $15 refusal fee and a $5 per month meter reading surcharge.
NB Power said it may be a year or more before it settles on its own fee.
"The opt out policy will be developed and implemented as part of the roll out. It will be one of the last things we do," said Clark.
NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board seeking permission to spend $122.7 million to install 350,000 smart meters province wide.
Smart
meter opponent Roger Richard, right, leads a group worried about human
health problems caused by long term exposure to the devices. (Robert Jones/CBC NEWS)
The
meters are capable of transmitting consumption data of customers back
to NB Power in real time, which the utility said will allow for a number
of innovations in pricing and service.
The meters require near universal adoption by customers to maximize their financial benefit — like eliminating more than $20 million a year NB Power currently spends to read meters manually. The utility has said the switch will not succeed if too many customers opt out.
"We certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size without having the customer with us," said Clark.
On Thursday, Kent County resident Daniel LeBlanc, who along with Roger Richard, is opposing the introduction of smart meters for health reasons, predicted a cool reception for the technology in many parts of the province.
"If one were to ask most of
the people in the rural areas, I'm not sure you would get a lot of
takers for this infrastructure," said LeBlanc, who is concerned with the
long-term effect microwave frequencies used by the meters to transmit
data may have on human health.
That issue is before the EUB next week.
NB Power acknowledged it has not measured public opinion on adopting smart meters but is confident it can convince customers it is a good idea for them and the utility.
"People don't understand what the smart meter is," said Clark. "We need to educate our customers first to allow them to make an informed decision so that will be part of the roll out plan."
Clark noted that smart meters, helped by stiff opting out penalties, were eventually accepted by 98 per cent of customers in British Columbia and by 97.4 per cent of customers in Quebec.
"We will check and adjust along the way if there are issues with customer uptake," said Clark.
"This is very similar to what has been done in other jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges."
"It will be based on the principles of cost causation, but we have not gotten into the detail of what that fee would be at this point," said NB Power Senior Vice President of Operations Lori Clark at Energy and Utilities Board hearings on Friday.
In Quebec, smart meters were installed beginning in 2012. Customers who refused the devices were initially charged $98 to opt out plus a meter reading fee of $17 per month. That was eventually cut by Quebec's energy board in 2014 to a $15 refusal fee and a $5 per month meter reading surcharge.
NB Power said it may be a year or more before it settles on its own fee.
"The opt out policy will be developed and implemented as part of the roll out. It will be one of the last things we do," said Clark.
Customers need to be on board
NB Power is in front of the New Brunswick Energy and Utilities Board seeking permission to spend $122.7 million to install 350,000 smart meters province wide.
The meters require near universal adoption by customers to maximize their financial benefit — like eliminating more than $20 million a year NB Power currently spends to read meters manually. The utility has said the switch will not succeed if too many customers opt out.
"We certainly wouldn't be looking at making an investment of this size without having the customer with us," said Clark.
On Thursday, Kent County resident Daniel LeBlanc, who along with Roger Richard, is opposing the introduction of smart meters for health reasons, predicted a cool reception for the technology in many parts of the province.
That issue is before the EUB next week.
Haven't tested the waters
NB Power acknowledged it has not measured public opinion on adopting smart meters but is confident it can convince customers it is a good idea for them and the utility.
"People don't understand what the smart meter is," said Clark. "We need to educate our customers first to allow them to make an informed decision so that will be part of the roll out plan."
Clark noted that smart meters, helped by stiff opting out penalties, were eventually accepted by 98 per cent of customers in British Columbia and by 97.4 per cent of customers in Quebec.
"We will check and adjust along the way if there are issues with customer uptake," said Clark.
"This is very similar to what has been done in other jurisdictions and they haven't had those challenges."
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Stop NB Power deal with mysterious Florida startup, Green leader says
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Methinks the Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy could use a friend perhaps he and should talk N'esy Pas?
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Stop NB Power deal with mysterious Florida startup, Green leader says
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David Amos
Methinks the Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy could use a friend perhaps he and should talk N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks if one were to ask
the University of Moncton professor Olivier Clarisse or the NB Power CEO
Gaetan Thomas who invented the AC induction motor I bet they would
claim it was George Westinghouse However the students of Nikola Tesla
know different N'esy Pas?
David Amos
Methinks It ain't rocket science to understand what Thomas and Kennedy are alluding to in this "News' item. Any student of John Ernst Worrell Keely will tell you that separating water is easily done byway of sonic frequencies That fact is no secret It is just not taught in Universities merely because the "Powers That Be" don't want folks to have free energy That why they smeared Tesla's reputation long ago N'esy Pas?
"Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy says the agreement will lead to "the ending of net new carbon emissions in the province." "Every once in a while, there's a major innovation that resets a whole new area of inquiry, and we believe that our discovery will prove to be something that creates a whole new area," he said. But to avoid revealing too much to potential competitors, "we need to keep it secret for a little bit longer."
Thomas said that Joi Scientific's process is not electrolysis.
"I can't tell you what it is, but it's not electrolysis," he said. "What we're saying is that it is much more efficient than electrolysis."
Roy Nicholl
@David Amos
It is rather unlikely that is the process being used.
It is rather unlikely that is the process being used.
David Amos
@Roy Nicholl Of that I have no doubt
Shawn McShane
@David Amos And Joi Scientific Director Gaetan Thomas aka CEO of NB Power says what?
David Amos
@Shawn McShane Methinks you
should ask his lawyers Madame Harrison and Mr Furey they are the ones I
emailed because they work for you N'esy Pas?
Stop NB Power deal with mysterious Florida startup, Green leader says
Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
The leader of the Green Party is
calling on Premier Blaine Higgs to halt NB Power's dalliance with a
Florida startup and its mysterious, unproven clean-energy technology.
Earlier this week, NB Power confirmed it has struck a deal with Joi Scientific, a Florida-based clean-energy startup, to develop power stations that would convert seawater to hydrogen electricity.
Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy says the agreement will lead to "the ending of net new carbon emissions in the province.
"Every once in a while, there's a major innovation that resets a whole new area of inquiry, and we believe that our discovery will prove to be something that creates a whole new area," he said.
But to avoid revealing too much to potential competitors, "we need to keep it secret for a little bit longer."
CEO Gaetan Thomas said the technology is "proven at the laboratory level. … The issue will be scaling up" to an industrial-level generation of electricity.
Thomas wouldn't say how much money the utility has committed to the project, though the newspaper L'Acadie Nouvelle quoted Kennedy saying it's $13 million. Kennedy wouldn't repeat that in an interview with CBC News.
NB Power's payment includes a licence fee for exclusive rights to build Joi-designed hydrogen power stations and then help market the technology to other utilities while sharing in the profits.
Green Leader David Coon said the venture goes beyond the utility's legislated role.
"It has no mandate as a public entity to be spending ratepayers' money on [research and development], to be acting like an angel investor in someone's project in Florida. It's not their mandate.
"They're way beyond the bounds of their mandate. The premier needs to have a discussion with the board of NB Power."
Thomas said the utility is not an investor and does not own a stake in the company.
Green
leader David Coon says NB Power has "no mandate as a public entity to
be spending ratepayers' money on [research and development], to be
acting like an angel investor in someone's project in Florida." (James West/Canadian Press)
He said NB Power is looking at two options for plants that would convert abundant seawater to hydrogen energy.
One would see a large plant alongside an existing gas plant to keep the gas plant's emissions below federal regulatory limits.
Besides a share of the profit from selling the technology to other utilities, Thomas said it would reduce NB Power's carbon-tax bill.
"It has zero carbon," he said.
But Coon questions whether the technology is viable.
"It still remains a mystery," he said. "No one in the hydrogen world is talking about this.
"There's no buzz that I can see about it, mainly because the company has yet to reveal exactly what it is. This remains in the realm of mystery, and it's still at the level of laboratory prototypes."
"The
proof of concept is not available to anybody. We want some proof. Just
because you say something, it's not necessarily true," said Olivier
Clarisse, a chemistry and bio chemistry professor at the University of
Moncton. (Tori Weldon/CBC)
University
of Moncton chemist Olivier Clarisse said he and his colleagues scoured
scientific journals for evidence that the company's method is viable and
could not find anything.
"We were expecting to see some papers from the scientific world about this major discovery, but we didn't see that," he said.
"The proof of concept is not available to anybody. We want some proof. Just because you say something, it's not necessarily true."
In a joint news release, NB Power and Joi Scientific said that their agreement comes after "successful third-party verifications … by scientific institutions and experts."
Kennedy said the company is looking forward to releasing peer-reviewed studies eventually.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen through a process called electrolysis, but Clarisse said so far no one has found a way to do that without burning more energy than what is produced.
"It's not workable to produce hydrogen in an economic sense," he said. "You receive less energy than what you have used to produce it."
Thomas said that Joi Scientific's process is not electrolysis.
"I can't tell you what it is, but it's not electrolysis," he said. "What we're saying is that it is much more efficient than electrolysis."
"I can't tell you what it is, but it's not electrolysis," said NB Power CEO Gaetan Thomas. (CBC)
Thomas said NB Power hopes to have a prototype ready in two or three years, with commercial operations five years from now.
He said the utility will eventually have to provide more detail when it appears before the Energy and Utilities Board.
NB Power has been unlucky with major investments in new ventures in the past.
It spent $700 million refurbishing its Coleson Cove station to burn Orimulsion, only to see its supply agreement with a Venezuelan state-owned fuel company fall apart. The utility's lawsuit was eventually settled for $338 million.
And the refurbishment of the Point Lepreau nuclear station, the first upgrade of its kind, went $1 billion over budget and was three years late.
Earlier this week, NB Power confirmed it has struck a deal with Joi Scientific, a Florida-based clean-energy startup, to develop power stations that would convert seawater to hydrogen electricity.
Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy says the agreement will lead to "the ending of net new carbon emissions in the province.
"Every once in a while, there's a major innovation that resets a whole new area of inquiry, and we believe that our discovery will prove to be something that creates a whole new area," he said.
But to avoid revealing too much to potential competitors, "we need to keep it secret for a little bit longer."
CEO Gaetan Thomas said the technology is "proven at the laboratory level. … The issue will be scaling up" to an industrial-level generation of electricity.
Thomas wouldn't say how much money the utility has committed to the project, though the newspaper L'Acadie Nouvelle quoted Kennedy saying it's $13 million. Kennedy wouldn't repeat that in an interview with CBC News.
NB Power's payment includes a licence fee for exclusive rights to build Joi-designed hydrogen power stations and then help market the technology to other utilities while sharing in the profits.
'No mandate'
Green Leader David Coon said the venture goes beyond the utility's legislated role.
"It has no mandate as a public entity to be spending ratepayers' money on [research and development], to be acting like an angel investor in someone's project in Florida. It's not their mandate.
"They're way beyond the bounds of their mandate. The premier needs to have a discussion with the board of NB Power."
Thomas said the utility is not an investor and does not own a stake in the company.
One would see a large plant alongside an existing gas plant to keep the gas plant's emissions below federal regulatory limits.
We want some proof. Just because you say something, it's not necessarily true. - Olivier Clarisse, University of MonctonAnother is a network of up to 30 smaller "mini-plants" around the province that would reduce the cost of transmitting the electricity.
Besides a share of the profit from selling the technology to other utilities, Thomas said it would reduce NB Power's carbon-tax bill.
"It has zero carbon," he said.
Mystery technology
But Coon questions whether the technology is viable.
"It still remains a mystery," he said. "No one in the hydrogen world is talking about this.
"There's no buzz that I can see about it, mainly because the company has yet to reveal exactly what it is. This remains in the realm of mystery, and it's still at the level of laboratory prototypes."
"We were expecting to see some papers from the scientific world about this major discovery, but we didn't see that," he said.
"The proof of concept is not available to anybody. We want some proof. Just because you say something, it's not necessarily true."
In a joint news release, NB Power and Joi Scientific said that their agreement comes after "successful third-party verifications … by scientific institutions and experts."
Studies will be released ... eventually
Kennedy said the company is looking forward to releasing peer-reviewed studies eventually.
Water is split into hydrogen and oxygen through a process called electrolysis, but Clarisse said so far no one has found a way to do that without burning more energy than what is produced.
"It's not workable to produce hydrogen in an economic sense," he said. "You receive less energy than what you have used to produce it."
Thomas said that Joi Scientific's process is not electrolysis.
"I can't tell you what it is, but it's not electrolysis," he said. "What we're saying is that it is much more efficient than electrolysis."
He said the utility will eventually have to provide more detail when it appears before the Energy and Utilities Board.
NB Power has been unlucky with major investments in new ventures in the past.
It spent $700 million refurbishing its Coleson Cove station to burn Orimulsion, only to see its supply agreement with a Venezuelan state-owned fuel company fall apart. The utility's lawsuit was eventually settled for $338 million.
And the refurbishment of the Point Lepreau nuclear station, the first upgrade of its kind, went $1 billion over budget and was three years late.
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 13:11:05 -0400
Subject: Re Joi Scientific, David Coon and NB Power We just talked
Correct Ms Harris?
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Stop NB Power deal with mysterious Florida startup, Green leader says
Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Mar 01, 2019 6:00 AM AT
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David Amos
Methinks the Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy could use a friend
perhaps he and should talk N'esy Pas?
https://www.joiscientific.com/
Joi Scientific and New Brunswick Power to Develop World’s First
Hydrogen-Powered Distributed Electricity Grid
New Brunswick could see up to 30 distributed Hydrogen 2.0 production
stations deployed for zero-carbon baseload generation
KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL & FREDERICTON, NB ― February 26, 2019 ― Joi
Scientific,™ whose mission is to make clean and affordable hydrogen
energy available to all, is to co-develop with New Brunswick Power a
hydrogen production system to enable the world’s first electricity
grid that uses hydrogen as a baseload.
The major electric utility in Canada’s Eastern Maritime province, NB
Power is re-architecting its operations to create a highly efficient
and green electricity grid. The collaboration envisages the deployment
of Joi Scientific’s proprietary Hydrogen 2.0™ production system at
multiple distributed stations alongside wind turbines, hydro, and
nuclear power to create a net-zero carbon-generating power operation
while maintaining low and stable rates in a jurisdiction that does not
benefit from large storage hydro capacity. The joint commercial
development between Joi Scientific and NB Power foresees the utility
offering its emissions-free grid architecture, which combines
distributed Hydrogen 2.0 baseload generation with smart grid
management, to other utility operators across North America and
beyond.
Joi Scientific’s Hydrogen 2.0 technology uses a high efficiency, high
throughput system to liberate hydrogen from untreated seawater.
Hydrogen 2.0 will enable the localized production of hydrogen on-site,
on-demand, meaning that it can be generated when and where it is
needed closer to where customers are located. In the province of New
Brunswick ― where significant progress has already been made towards
contributing to Canada’s 2030 goal of cutting emissions by at least 56
percent below 2005 levels ― Hydrogen 2.0 has the potential to
transform the transmission and distribution of electricity with a
feedstock generated from readily available coastal seawater.
“NB Power has long been committed to investing in the sustainability
of our province’s energy future. We are encouraged with the progress
made to date on Hydrogen 2.0 and are looking forward to the next phase
of co-development,” explained Gaëtan Thomas, President and CEO, NB
Power. “Hydrogen 2.0 has the potential to provide a localized,
on-demand hydrogen production capability which, when mixed with other
renewable sources such as wind and hydro, gets us closer to our
customers by delivering zero-carbon loads at lower cost and greater
efficiency.”
This new development phase follows successful third-party
verifications of Hydrogen 2.0 technology efficiency and throughput by
scientific institutions and experts. Both companies are planning to
work closely together to co-develop and test a commercial prototype
unit at Joi Scientific’s labs at the Kennedy Space Center. This
development phase follows an initial license agreement that was signed
in 2016, granting NB Power the rights to develop, manufacture, use,
and sell hydrogen and hydrogen generation systems for large and small
electric utility applications using Joi Scientific’s Hydrogen 2.0
technology.
“This historic agreement with NB Power signals the transition of our
Hydrogen 2.0 technology from the laboratory into full-scale
development and commercialization,” said Traver Kennedy, CEO, Joi
Scientific. “New Brunswick is a prime example of what can be achieved
by a far-sighted, ecologically-minded institution. Their innovative
approach for realizing a new zero-carbon distributed grid architecture
could provide the blueprint for the way the world generates and
consumes electricity going forward.”
About NB Power
New Brunswick Power (www.nbpower.com) is the primary electric utility
in New Brunswick, Canada, and was established in 1920. It serves over
400,000 direct and indirect customers with safe, reliable and
efficient electricity. The utility is focused on promoting the
efficient use of energy in customers’ homes and businesses through its
smart grid efforts while enabling and providing new, value-added
energy efficient solutions in order to help reduce carbon, better
integrate renewable energy and stimulate the economy. Based on the
current generation mix, NB Power is well positioned to provide its
customers with electricity generated with consideration for the
environment. Currently, 37 percent of its energy is from renewable
sources and 74 percent is non-emitting when the Point Lepreau Nuclear
Generating Station is added. NB Power is on track to achieve the
provincial target of 40 percent of in-province electricity sales being
provided from clean, renewable energy sources by 2020 and when coupled
with nuclear generation this will result in a 75 percent non-emitting
grid for New Brunswickers.
About Joi Scientific
Joi Scientific (www.joiscientific.com) was founded by a group of
global business leaders, technologists, and social entrepreneurs who
believe that plentiful hydrogen holds the key to giving the world a
viable, no-compromise energy alternative. The company’s Hydrogen 2.0
technology has the potential to be the world’s first hydrogen
production process that is on-demand, economically competitive, and
environmentally neutral. The company is licensing its Hydrogen 2.0
technology to a wide range of major power industries including
electrical generation, heat generation, transportation, and specialty
power. Joi Scientific is headquartered at the Kennedy Space Center in
Florida.
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:18:40 -0400
Subject: Methinks David Lametti should go back to law school too N'esy
Pas Pierre Poilievre?
To: David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
<pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"michael.chong" <michael.chong@parl.gc.ca>, "Michael.Wernick"
<Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:44:16 -0400
Subject: Jagmeet Singh says that maybe Jay Shin should go back to law
school??? Too Too Funny Indeed EH Karen Wang and Laura-Lynn Tyler
Thompson?
To: info@jayshin.ca, jay@lonsdalelaw.ca, karenwang@liberal.ca,
lauralynnlive@gmail.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
jmaclellan@burnabynow.com, kgawley@burnabynow.com
Jagmeet Singh on Tory opponent: 'Maybe he should go back to law school'
Conservative candidate Jay Shin said Singh was 'keeping criminals out
of jail' during his days as a criminal defence lawyer
Kelvin Gawley Burnaby Now January 13, 2019 10:27 AM
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Now if Mr Shin scrolls down he will know some of what the fancy NDP
lawyer has known for quite sometime
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Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 and the
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 00:33:21 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Mr Lutz howcome your buddy the clerk
would not file this motion and properly witnessed affidavit and why
did she take all four copies?
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Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
I will be out of the office until August 15, 2016. Je serai absent du
bureau jusqu'au 15 août 2016.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>
> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>
> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
>
> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> tel.: 506-457-7890
> fax: 506-444-5224
> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>
On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.
> ilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>> 6
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>
http://davidraymondamos3.
Sunday, 19 November 2017
Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court
https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.
Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Amos v. Canada
Court (s) Database
Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Date
2017-10-30
Neutral citation
2017 FCA 213
File numbers
A-48-16
Date: 20171030
Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:
WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
THE COURT
Date: 20171030
Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:
WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
I. Introduction
[1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
(Claim at para. 96).
[2] On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
Prothontary’s Order).
[3] On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
[4] Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
cross-appeal.
II. Preliminary Matter
[5] Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
several judges but did not name those judges.
[6] Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
c. F-7:
5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal.
[…]
5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
[…]
5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
juges de la Cour fédérale.
[7] However, these subsections only provide that the
judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
section.
[8] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
matière civile et pénale.
4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
compétence en matière civile et pénale.
[9] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
(section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
appeal book.
[10] Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
conflict in any matter related to him.
[11] On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
[12] During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
such judge had a conflict.
[13] The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
was a member of such firm.
[14] During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
[15] The documents that he submitted in relation to the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
“John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
[16] Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
apprehension of bias:
60 In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
reasonable apprehension of bias:
… the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
[17] The issue to be determined is whether an informed
person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
(4th) 193).
[18] The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
27 Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
28 The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
29 It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
30 That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
31 There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
his former firm for a considerable period of time.
32 In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
events from over a decade ago.
(emphasis added)
[19] Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
Webb hearing this appeal.
[20] Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
(2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
[21] In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
[22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
[23] As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
to recuse himself.
[24] Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
[25] Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
III. Issue
[26] The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
IV. Analysis
A. Standard of Review
[27] Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
[Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
(Hospira at paras. 82-83).
[28] In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
interfere.
B. Did the Judge err in interfering with the
Prothonotary’s Order?
[29] The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
17. Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
(…)
21. The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
[footnotes omitted].
[30] The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
para. 27).
[31] The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
[13] As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
(Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
[32] The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
“political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
[33] This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
…When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
“The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
of process…
To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
(at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
[34] Applying the Housen standard of review to the
Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
[35] The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
supporting a cause of action.
[36] In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
V. Conclusion
[37] For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
without leave to amend.
"Wyman W. Webb"
J.A.
"David G. Near"
J.A.
"Mary J.L. Gleason"
J.A.
FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
DOCKET:
A-48-16
STYLE OF CAUSE:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
PLACE OF HEARING:
Fredericton,
New Brunswick
DATE OF HEARING:
May 24, 2017
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.
DATED:
October 30, 2017
APPEARANCES:
David Raymond Amos
For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
(on his own behalf)
Jan Jensen
For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
Nathalie G. Drouin
Deputy Attorney General of Canada
For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 17:11:12 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Joi Scientific, David Coon and NB Power
We just talked Correct Ms Harris?
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 13:11:05 -0400
Subject: Re Joi Scientific, David Coon and NB Power We just talked
Correct Ms Harris?
To: vicky@joiscientific.com, wharrison@nbpower.com,
mike.holland@gnb.ca>, David.Coon@gnb.ca
Cc: david.raymond.amos333@gmail.
Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca, David.Akin@globalnews.ca,
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Stop NB Power deal with mysterious Florida startup, Green leader says
Clean-energy company says its 'major' technology has to stay secret for now
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Mar 01, 2019 6:00 AM AT
40 Comments
David Amos
Methinks the Joi Scientific CEO Traver Kennedy could use a friend
perhaps he and should talk N'esy Pas?
https://www.joiscientific.com/
Joi Scientific and New Brunswick Power to Develop World’s First
Hydrogen-Powered Distributed Electricity Grid
New Brunswick could see up to 30 distributed Hydrogen 2.0 production
stations deployed for zero-carbon baseload generation
KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL & FREDERICTON, NB ― February 26, 2019 ― Joi
Scientific,™ whose mission is to make clean and affordable hydrogen
energy available to all, is to co-develop with New Brunswick Power a
hydrogen production system to enable the world’s first electricity
grid that uses hydrogen as a baseload.
The major electric utility in Canada’s Eastern Maritime province, NB
Power is re-architecting its operations to create a highly efficient
and green electricity grid. The collaboration envisages the deployment
of Joi Scientific’s proprietary Hydrogen 2.0™ production system at
multiple distributed stations alongside wind turbines, hydro, and
nuclear power to create a net-zero carbon-generating power operation
while maintaining low and stable rates in a jurisdiction that does not
benefit from large storage hydro capacity. The joint commercial
development between Joi Scientific and NB Power foresees the utility
offering its emissions-free grid architecture, which combines
distributed Hydrogen 2.0 baseload generation with smart grid
management, to other utility operators across North America and
beyond.
Joi Scientific’s Hydrogen 2.0 technology uses a high efficiency, high
throughput system to liberate hydrogen from untreated seawater.
Hydrogen 2.0 will enable the localized production of hydrogen on-site,
on-demand, meaning that it can be generated when and where it is
needed closer to where customers are located. In the province of New
Brunswick ― where significant progress has already been made towards
contributing to Canada’s 2030 goal of cutting emissions by at least 56
percent below 2005 levels ― Hydrogen 2.0 has the potential to
transform the transmission and distribution of electricity with a
feedstock generated from readily available coastal seawater.
“NB Power has long been committed to investing in the sustainability
of our province’s energy future. We are encouraged with the progress
made to date on Hydrogen 2.0 and are looking forward to the next phase
of co-development,” explained Gaëtan Thomas, President and CEO, NB
Power. “Hydrogen 2.0 has the potential to provide a localized,
on-demand hydrogen production capability which, when mixed with other
renewable sources such as wind and hydro, gets us closer to our
customers by delivering zero-carbon loads at lower cost and greater
efficiency.”
This new development phase follows successful third-party
verifications of Hydrogen 2.0 technology efficiency and throughput by
scientific institutions and experts. Both companies are planning to
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unit at Joi Scientific’s labs at the Kennedy Space Center. This
development phase follows an initial license agreement that was signed
in 2016, granting NB Power the rights to develop, manufacture, use,
and sell hydrogen and hydrogen generation systems for large and small
electric utility applications using Joi Scientific’s Hydrogen 2.0
technology.
“This historic agreement with NB Power signals the transition of our
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Scientific. “New Brunswick is a prime example of what can be achieved
by a far-sighted, ecologically-minded institution. Their innovative
approach for realizing a new zero-carbon distributed grid architecture
could provide the blueprint for the way the world generates and
consumes electricity going forward.”
About NB Power
New Brunswick Power (www.nbpower.com) is the primary electric utility
in New Brunswick, Canada, and was established in 1920. It serves over
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energy efficient solutions in order to help reduce carbon, better
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current generation mix, NB Power is well positioned to provide its
customers with electricity generated with consideration for the
environment. Currently, 37 percent of its energy is from renewable
sources and 74 percent is non-emitting when the Point Lepreau Nuclear
Generating Station is added. NB Power is on track to achieve the
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provided from clean, renewable energy sources by 2020 and when coupled
with nuclear generation this will result in a 75 percent non-emitting
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About Joi Scientific
Joi Scientific (www.joiscientific.com) was founded by a group of
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From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:18:40 -0400
Subject: Methinks David Lametti should go back to law school too N'esy
Pas Pierre Poilievre?
To: David.Lametti@parl.gc.ca, "Jody.Wilson-Raybould"
<Jody.Wilson-Raybould@parl.gc.
<pierre.poilievre@parl.gc.ca>, mcu <mcu@justice.gc.ca>,
"michael.chong" <michael.chong@parl.gc.ca>, "Michael.Wernick"
<Michael.Wernick@pco-bcp.gc.ca
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
<Newsroom@globeandmail.com>, "Jacques.Poitras"
<Jacques.Poitras@cbc.ca>, "serge.rousselle" <serge.rousselle@gnb.ca>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:44:16 -0400
Subject: Jagmeet Singh says that maybe Jay Shin should go back to law
school??? Too Too Funny Indeed EH Karen Wang and Laura-Lynn Tyler
Thompson?
To: info@jayshin.ca, jay@lonsdalelaw.ca, karenwang@liberal.ca,
lauralynnlive@gmail.com
Cc: David Amos <david.raymond.amos@gmail.com>
jmaclellan@burnabynow.com, kgawley@burnabynow.com
Jagmeet Singh on Tory opponent: 'Maybe he should go back to law school'
Conservative candidate Jay Shin said Singh was 'keeping criminals out
of jail' during his days as a criminal defence lawyer
Kelvin Gawley Burnaby Now January 13, 2019 10:27 AM
Julie MacLellan
Assistant editor, and newsroom tip line
jmaclellan@burnabynow.com
Phone: 604 444 3020
Kelvin Gawley
kgawley@burnabynow.com
Phone: 604 444 3024
Jay Shin
Direct: 604-980-5089
Email: jay@lonsdalelaw.ca
By phone: 604-628-0508
By e-mail: info@jayshin.ca
Karen Wang
604.531.1178
karenwang@liberal.ca
Now if Mr Shin scrolls down he will know some of what the fancy NDP
lawyer has known for quite sometime
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Singh - QP, Jagmeet" <JSingh-QP@ndp.on.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 16:39:35 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Re Federal Court File # T-1557-15 and the
upcoming hearing on May 24th I called a lot of your people before High
Noon today Correct Ralph Goodale and Deputy Minister Malcolm Brown?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
For immediate assistance please contact our Brampton office at
905-799-3939 or jsingh-co@ndp.on.ca
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kennedy.Stewart@parl.gc.ca
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 18:18:35 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Attn Minister Ralph Goodale and Pierre
Paul-Hus Trust that I look forward to arguing the fact that fhe Crown
filed my Sept 4th email to you and your buddies
To: motomaniac333@gmail.com
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From: Michael Cohen <mcohen@trumporg.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 05:54:40 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: ATTN Blair Armitage You acted as the Usher
of the Black Rod twice while Kevin Vickers was the Sergeant-at-Arms
Hence you and the RCMP must know why I sued the Queen Correct?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
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From: Justice Website <JUSTWEB@novascotia.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:21:11 +0000
Subject: Emails to Department of Justice and Province of Nova Scotia
To: "motomaniac333@gmail.com" <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
Mr. Amos,
We acknowledge receipt of your recent emails to the Deputy Minister of
Justice and lawyers within the Legal Services Division of the
Department of Justice respecting a possible claim against the Province
of Nova Scotia. Service of any documents respecting a legal claim
against the Province of Nova Scotia may be served on the Attorney
General at 1690 Hollis Street, Halifax, NS. Please note that we will
not be responding to further emails on this matter.
Department of Justice
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From: "Eidt, David (OAG/CPG)" <David.Eidt@gnb.ca>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 00:33:21 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: Yo Mr Lutz howcome your buddy the clerk
would not file this motion and properly witnessed affidavit and why
did she take all four copies?
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
I will be out of the office until Monday, March 13, 2017. I will have
little to no access to email. Please dial 453-2222 for assistance.
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From: Marc Richard <MRichard@lawsociety-barreau.
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:16:46 +0000
Subject: Automatic reply: RE: The New Brunswick Real Estate
Association and their deliberate ignorance for the bankster's benefit
To: David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com>
I will be out of the office until August 15, 2016. Je serai absent du
bureau jusqu'au 15 août 2016.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Amos motomaniac333@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:32:09 -0400
> Subject: Attn Integrity Commissioner Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> To: coi@gnb.ca
> Cc: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Good Day Sir
>
> After I heard you speak on CBC I called your office again and managed
> to speak to one of your staff for the first time
>
> Please find attached the documents I promised to send to the lady who
> answered the phone this morning. Please notice that not after the Sgt
> at Arms took the documents destined to your office his pal Tanker
> Malley barred me in writing with an "English" only document.
>
> These are the hearings and the dockets in Federal Court that I
> suggested that you study closely.
>
> This is the docket in Federal Court
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>
> These are digital recordings of the last three hearings
>
> Dec 14th https://archive.org/details/
>
> January 11th, 2016 https://archive.org/details/
>
> April 3rd, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/
>
>
> This is the docket in the Federal Court of Appeal
>
> http://cas-cdc-www02.cas-satj.
>
>
> The only hearing thus far
>
> May 24th, 2017
>
> https://archive.org/details/
>
>
> This Judge understnds the meaning of the word Integrity
>
> Date: 20151223
>
> Docket: T-1557-15
>
> Fredericton, New Brunswick, December 23, 2015
>
> PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bell
>
> BETWEEN:
>
> DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
>
> Plaintiff
>
> and
>
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
>
> Defendant
>
> ORDER
>
> (Delivered orally from the Bench in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on
> December 14, 2015)
>
> The Plaintiff seeks an appeal de novo, by way of motion pursuant to
> the Federal Courts Rules (SOR/98-106), from an Order made on November
> 12, 2015, in which Prothonotary Morneau struck the Statement of Claim
> in its entirety.
>
> At the outset of the hearing, the Plaintiff brought to my attention a
> letter dated September 10, 2004, which he sent to me, in my then
> capacity as Past President of the New Brunswick Branch of the Canadian
> Bar Association, and the then President of the Branch, Kathleen Quigg,
> (now a Justice of the New Brunswick Court of Appeal). In that letter
> he stated:
>
> As for your past President, Mr. Bell, may I suggest that you check the
> work of Frank McKenna before I sue your entire law firm including you.
> You are your brother’s keeper.
>
> Frank McKenna is the former Premier of New Brunswick and a former
> colleague of mine at the law firm of McInnes Cooper. In addition to
> expressing an intention to sue me, the Plaintiff refers to a number of
> people in his Motion Record who he appears to contend may be witnesses
> or potential parties to be added. Those individuals who are known to
> me personally, include, but are not limited to the former Prime
> Minister of Canada, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper; former
> Attorney General of Canada and now a Justice of the Manitoba Court of
> Queen’s Bench, Vic Toews; former member of Parliament Rob Moore;
> former Director of Policing Services, the late Grant Garneau; former
> Chief of the Fredericton Police Force, Barry McKnight; former Staff
> Sergeant Danny Copp; my former colleagues on the New Brunswick Court
> of Appeal, Justices Bradley V. Green and Kathleen Quigg, and, retired
> Assistant Commissioner Wayne Lang of the Royal Canadian Mounted
> Police.
>
> In the circumstances, given the threat in 2004 to sue me in my
> personal capacity and my past and present relationship with many
> potential witnesses and/or potential parties to the litigation, I am
> of the view there would be a reasonable apprehension of bias should I
> hear this motion. See Justice de Grandpré’s dissenting judgment in
> Committee for Justice and Liberty et al v National Energy Board et al,
> [1978] 1 SCR 369 at p 394 for the applicable test regarding
> allegations of bias. In the circumstances, although neither party has
> requested I recuse myself, I consider it appropriate that I do so.
>
>
> AS A RESULT OF MY RECUSAL, THIS COURT ORDERS that the Administrator of
> the Court schedule another date for the hearing of the motion. There
> is no order as to costs.
>
> “B. Richard Bell”
> Judge
>
>
> Below after the CBC article about your concerns (I made one comment
> already) you will find the text of just two of many emails I had sent
> to your office over the years since I first visited it in 2006.
>
> I noticed that on July 30, 2009, he was appointed to the the Court
> Martial Appeal Court of Canada Perhaps you should scroll to the
> bottom of this email ASAP and read the entire Paragraph 83 of my
> lawsuit now before the Federal Court of Canada?
>
> "FYI This is the text of the lawsuit that should interest Trudeau the most
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
> From: justin.trudeau.a1@parl.gc.ca
> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:18 PM
> Subject: Réponse automatique : RE My complaint against the CROWN in
> Federal Court Attn David Hansen and Peter MacKay If you planning to
> submit a motion for a publication ban on my complaint trust that you
> dudes are way past too late
> To: david.raymond.amos@gmail.com
>
> Veuillez noter que j'ai changé de courriel. Vous pouvez me rejoindre à
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> Pour rejoindre le bureau de M. Trudeau veuillez envoyer un courriel à
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Please note that I changed email address, you can reach me at
> lalanthier@hotmail.com
>
> To reach the office of Mr. Trudeau please send an email to
> tommy.desfosses@parl.gc.ca
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merci ,
>
>
> http://davidraymondamos3.
>
>
> 83. The Plaintiff states that now that Canada is involved in more war
> in Iraq again it did not serve Canadian interests and reputation to
> allow Barry Winters to publish the following words three times over
> five years after he began his bragging:
>
> January 13, 2015
> This Is Just AS Relevant Now As When I wrote It During The Debate
>
> December 8, 2014
> Why Canada Stood Tall!
>
> Friday, October 3, 2014
> Little David Amos’ “True History Of War” Canadian Airstrikes And
> Stupid Justin Trudeau
>
> Canada’s and Canadians free ride is over. Canada can no longer hide
> behind Amerka’s and NATO’s skirts.
>
> When I was still in Canadian Forces then Prime Minister Jean Chretien
> actually committed the Canadian Army to deploy in the second campaign
> in Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing. This was against or contrary to
> the wisdom or advice of those of us Canadian officers that were
> involved in the initial planning phases of that operation. There were
> significant concern in our planning cell, and NDHQ about of the dearth
> of concern for operational guidance, direction, and forces for
> operations after the initial occupation of Iraq. At the “last minute”
> Prime Minister Chretien and the Liberal government changed its mind.
> The Canadian government told our amerkan cousins that we would not
> deploy combat troops for the Iraq campaign, but would deploy a
> Canadian Battle Group to Afghanistan, enabling our amerkan cousins to
> redeploy troops from there to Iraq. The PMO’s thinking that it was
> less costly to deploy Canadian Forces to Afghanistan than Iraq. But
> alas no one seems to remind the Liberals of Prime Minister Chretien’s
> then grossly incorrect assumption. Notwithstanding Jean Chretien’s
> incompetence and stupidity, the Canadian Army was heroic,
> professional, punched well above it’s weight, and the PPCLI Battle
> Group, is credited with “saving Afghanistan” during the Panjway
> campaign of 2006.
>
> What Justin Trudeau and the Liberals don’t tell you now, is that then
> Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien committed, and deployed the
> Canadian army to Canada’s longest “war” without the advice, consent,
> support, or vote of the Canadian Parliament.
>
> What David Amos and the rest of the ignorant, uneducated, and babbling
> chattering classes are too addled to understand is the deployment of
> less than 75 special operations troops, and what is known by planners
> as a “six pac cell” of fighter aircraft is NOT the same as a
> deployment of a Battle Group, nor a “war” make.
>
> The Canadian Government or The Crown unlike our amerkan cousins have
> the “constitutional authority” to commit the Canadian nation to war.
> That has been recently clearly articulated to the Canadian public by
> constitutional scholar Phillippe Legasse. What Parliament can do is
> remove “confidence” in The Crown’s Government in a “vote of
> non-confidence.” That could not happen to the Chretien Government
> regarding deployment to Afghanistan, and it won’t happen in this
> instance with the conservative majority in The Commons regarding a
> limited Canadian deployment to the Middle East.
>
> President George Bush was quite correct after 911 and the terror
> attacks in New York; that the Taliban “occupied” and “failed state”
> Afghanistan was the source of logistical support, command and control,
> and training for the Al Quaeda war of terror against the world. The
> initial defeat, and removal from control of Afghanistan was vital and
>
> P.S. Whereas this CBC article is about your opinion of the actions of
> the latest Minister Of Health trust that Mr Boudreau and the CBC have
> had my files for many years and the last thing they are is ethical.
> Ask his friends Mr Murphy and the RCMP if you don't believe me.
>
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:02:35 -0400
> From: "Murphy, Michael B. \(DH/MS\)" MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca
> To: motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
>
> January 30, 2007
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Mr. David Amos
>
> Dear Mr. Amos:
>
> This will acknowledge receipt of a copy of your e-mail of December 29,
> 2006 to Corporal Warren McBeath of the RCMP.
>
> Because of the nature of the allegations made in your message, I have
> taken the measure of forwarding a copy to Assistant Commissioner Steve
> Graham of the RCMP “J” Division in Fredericton.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Honourable Michael B. Murphy
> Minister of Health
>
> CM/cb
>
>
> Warren McBeath warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:34:53 -0500
> From: "Warren McBeath" warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> To: kilgoursite@ca.inter.net, MichaelB.Murphy@gnb.ca,
> nada.sarkis@gnb.ca, wally.stiles@gnb.ca, dwatch@web.net,
> motomaniac_02186@yahoo.com
> CC: ottawa@chuckstrahl.com, riding@chuckstrahl.com,John.
> Oda.B@parl.gc.ca,"Bev BUSSON" bev.busson@rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
> "Paul Dube" PAUL.DUBE@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: Remember me Kilgour? Landslide Annie McLellan has
> forgotten me but the crooks within the RCMP have not
>
> Dear Mr. Amos,
>
> Thank you for your follow up e-mail to me today. I was on days off
> over the holidays and returned to work this evening. Rest assured I
> was not ignoring or procrastinating to respond to your concerns.
>
> As your attachment sent today refers from Premier Graham, our position
> is clear on your dead calf issue: Our forensic labs do not process
> testing on animals in cases such as yours, they are referred to the
> Atlantic Veterinary College in Charlottetown who can provide these
> services. If you do not choose to utilize their expertise in this
> instance, then that is your decision and nothing more can be done.
>
> As for your other concerns regarding the US Government, false
> imprisonment and Federal Court Dates in the US, etc... it is clear
> that Federal authorities are aware of your concerns both in Canada
> the US. These issues do not fall into the purvue of Detachment
> and policing in Petitcodiac, NB.
>
> It was indeed an interesting and informative conversation we had on
> December 23rd, and I wish you well in all of your future endeavors.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Warren McBeath, Cpl.
> GRC Caledonia RCMP
> Traffic Services NCO
> Ph: (506) 387-2222
> Fax: (506) 387-4622
> E-mail warren.mcbeath@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
>
>
>
> Alexandre Deschênes, Q.C.,
> Office of the Integrity Commissioner
> Edgecombe House, 736 King Street
> Fredericton, N.B. CANADA E3B 5H1
> tel.: 506-457-7890
> fax: 506-444-5224
> e-mail:coi@gnb.ca
>
On 8/3/17, David Amos <motomaniac333@gmail.com> wrote:
> If want something very serious to download and laugh at as well Please
> Enjoy and share real wiretap tapes of the mob
>
> http://thedavidamosrant.
> ilian.html
>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/
>>
>> As the CBC etc yap about Yankee wiretaps and whistleblowers I must
>> ask them the obvious question AIN'T THEY FORGETTING SOMETHING????
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>
>> What the hell does the media think my Yankee lawyer served upon the
>> USDOJ right after I ran for and seat in the 39th Parliament baseball
>> cards?
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>> 6
>>
>> http://davidamos.blogspot.ca/
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/
>>
>> http://archive.org/details/
>>
>> FEDERAL EXPRES February 7, 2006
>> Senator Arlen Specter
>> United States Senate
>> Committee on the Judiciary
>> 224 Dirksen Senate Office Building
>> Washington, DC 20510
>>
>> Dear Mr. Specter:
>>
>> I have been asked to forward the enclosed tapes to you from a man
>> named, David Amos, a Canadian citizen, in connection with the matters
>> raised in the attached letter.
>>
>> Mr. Amos has represented to me that these are illegal FBI wire tap tapes.
>>
>> I believe Mr. Amos has been in contact with you about this previously.
>>
>> Very truly yours,
>> Barry A. Bachrach
>> Direct telephone: (508) 926-3403
>> Direct facsimile: (508) 929-3003
>> Email: bbachrach@bowditch.com
>>
>
http://davidraymondamos3.
Sunday, 19 November 2017
Federal Court of Appeal Finally Makes The BIG Decision And Publishes
It Now The Crooks Cannot Take Back Ticket To Try Put My Matter Before
The Supreme Court
https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.
Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Amos v. Canada
Court (s) Database
Federal Court of Appeal Decisions
Date
2017-10-30
Neutral citation
2017 FCA 213
File numbers
A-48-16
Date: 20171030
Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:
WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
Heard at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on May 24, 2017.
Judgment delivered at Ottawa, Ontario, on October 30, 2017.
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY:
THE COURT
Date: 20171030
Docket: A-48-16
Citation: 2017 FCA 213
CORAM:
WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.
BETWEEN:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS
Respondent on the cross-appeal
(and formally Appellant)
and
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Appellant on the cross-appeal
(and formerly Respondent)
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT BY THE COURT
I. Introduction
[1] On September 16, 2015, David Raymond Amos (Mr. Amos)
filed a 53-page Statement of Claim (the Claim) in Federal Court
against Her Majesty the Queen (the Crown). Mr. Amos claims $11 million
in damages and a public apology from the Prime Minister and Provincial
Premiers for being illegally barred from accessing parliamentary
properties and seeks a declaration from the Minister of Public Safety
that the Canadian Government will no longer allow the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) and Canadian Forces to harass him and his clan
(Claim at para. 96).
[2] On November 12, 2015 (Docket T-1557-15), by way of a
motion brought by the Crown, a prothonotary of the Federal Court (the
Prothonotary) struck the Claim in its entirety, without leave to
amend, on the basis that it was plain and obvious that the Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim, the Claim was fundamentally vexatious,
and the Claim could not be salvaged by way of further amendment (the
Prothontary’s Order).
[3] On January 25, 2016 (2016 FC 93), by way of Mr.
Amos’ appeal from the Prothonotary’s Order, a judge of the Federal
Court (the Judge), reviewing the matter de novo, struck all of Mr.
Amos’ claims for relief with the exception of the claim for damages
for being barred by the RCMP from the New Brunswick legislature in
2004 (the Federal Court Judgment).
[4] Mr. Amos appealed and the Crown cross-appealed the
Federal Court Judgment. Further to the issuance of a Notice of Status
Review, Mr. Amos’ appeal was dismissed for delay on December 19, 2016.
As such, the only matter before this Court is the Crown’s
cross-appeal.
II. Preliminary Matter
[5] Mr. Amos, in his memorandum of fact and law in
relation to the cross-appeal that was filed with this Court on March
6, 2017, indicated that several judges of this Court, including two of
the judges of this panel, had a conflict of interest in this appeal.
This was the first time that he identified the judges whom he believed
had a conflict of interest in a document that was filed with this
Court. In his notice of appeal he had alluded to a conflict with
several judges but did not name those judges.
[6] Mr. Amos was of the view that he did not have to
identify the judges in any document filed with this Court because he
had identified the judges in various documents that had been filed
with the Federal Court. In his view the Federal Court and the Federal
Court of Appeal are the same court and therefore any document filed in
the Federal Court would be filed in this Court. This view is based on
subsections 5(4) and 5.1(4) of the Federal Courts Act, R.S.C., 1985,
c. F-7:
5(4) Every judge of the Federal Court is, by virtue of his or her
office, a judge of the Federal Court of Appeal and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court of
Appeal.
[…]
5(4) Les juges de la Cour fédérale sont d’office juges de la Cour
d’appel fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que
les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale.
[…]
5.1(4) Every judge of the Federal Court of Appeal is, by virtue of
that office, a judge of the Federal Court and has all the
jurisdiction, power and authority of a judge of the Federal Court.
5.1(4) Les juges de la Cour d’appel fédérale sont d’office juges de la
Cour fédérale et ont la même compétence et les mêmes pouvoirs que les
juges de la Cour fédérale.
[7] However, these subsections only provide that the
judges of the Federal Court are also judges of this Court (and vice
versa). It does not mean that there is only one court. If the Federal
Court and this Court were one Court, there would be no need for this
section.
[8] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act provide that:
3 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Appeal Division is continued under the name “Federal Court of
Appeal” in English and “Cour d’appel fédérale” in French. It is
continued as an additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and
for Canada, for the better administration of the laws of Canada and as
a superior court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
3 La Section d’appel, aussi appelée la Cour d’appel ou la Cour d’appel
fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée « Cour d’appel fédérale » en
français et « Federal Court of Appeal » en anglais. Elle est maintenue
à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et d’amirauté du
Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit canadien, et
continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant compétence en
matière civile et pénale.
4 The division of the Federal Court of Canada called the Federal Court
— Trial Division is continued under the name “Federal Court” in
English and “Cour fédérale” in French. It is continued as an
additional court of law, equity and admiralty in and for Canada, for
the better administration of the laws of Canada and as a superior
court of record having civil and criminal jurisdiction.
4 La section de la Cour fédérale du Canada, appelée la Section de
première instance de la Cour fédérale, est maintenue et dénommée «
Cour fédérale » en français et « Federal Court » en anglais. Elle est
maintenue à titre de tribunal additionnel de droit, d’equity et
d’amirauté du Canada, propre à améliorer l’application du droit
canadien, et continue d’être une cour supérieure d’archives ayant
compétence en matière civile et pénale.
[9] Sections 3 and 4 of the Federal Courts Act create
two separate courts – this Court (section 3) and the Federal Court
(section 4). If, as Mr. Amos suggests, documents filed in the Federal
Court were automatically also filed in this Court, then there would no
need for the parties to prepare and file appeal books as required by
Rules 343 to 345 of the Federal Courts Rules, SOR/98-106 in relation
to any appeal from a decision of the Federal Court. The requirement to
file an appeal book with this Court in relation to an appeal from a
decision of the Federal Court makes it clear that the only documents
that will be before this Court are the documents that are part of that
appeal book.
[10] Therefore, the memorandum of fact and law filed on
March 6, 2017 is the first document, filed with this Court, in which
Mr. Amos identified the particular judges that he submits have a
conflict in any matter related to him.
[11] On April 3, 2017, Mr. Amos attempted to bring a motion
before the Federal Court seeking an order “affirming or denying the
conflict of interest he has” with a number of judges of the Federal
Court. A judge of the Federal Court issued a direction noting that if
Mr. Amos was seeking this order in relation to judges of the Federal
Court of Appeal, it was beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Court.
Mr. Amos raised the Federal Court motion at the hearing of this
cross-appeal. The Federal Court motion is not a motion before this
Court and, as such, the submissions filed before the Federal Court
will not be entertained. As well, since this was a motion brought
before the Federal Court (and not this Court), any documents filed in
relation to that motion are not part of the record of this Court.
[12] During the hearing of the appeal Mr. Amos alleged that
the third member of this panel also had a conflict of interest and
submitted some documents that, in his view, supported his claim of a
conflict. Mr. Amos, following the hearing of his appeal, was also
afforded the opportunity to provide a brief summary of the conflict
that he was alleging and to file additional documents that, in his
view, supported his allegations. Mr. Amos submitted several pages of
documents in relation to the alleged conflicts. He organized the
documents by submitting a copy of the biography of the particular
judge and then, immediately following that biography, by including
copies of the documents that, in his view, supported his claim that
such judge had a conflict.
[13] The nature of the alleged conflict of Justice Webb is
that before he was appointed as a Judge of the Tax Court of Canada in
2006, he was a partner with the law firm Patterson Law, and before
that with Patterson Palmer in Nova Scotia. Mr. Amos submitted that he
had a number of disputes with Patterson Palmer and Patterson Law and
therefore Justice Webb has a conflict simply because he was a partner
of these firms. Mr. Amos is not alleging that Justice Webb was
personally involved in or had any knowledge of any matter in which Mr.
Amos was involved with Justice Webb’s former law firm – only that he
was a member of such firm.
[14] During his oral submissions at the hearing of his
appeal Mr. Amos, in relation to the alleged conflict for Justice Webb,
focused on dealings between himself and a particular lawyer at
Patterson Law. However, none of the documents submitted by Mr. Amos at
the hearing or subsequently related to any dealings with this
particular lawyer nor is it clear when Mr. Amos was dealing with this
lawyer. In particular, it is far from clear whether such dealings were
after the time that Justice Webb was appointed as a Judge of the Tax
Court of Canada over 10 years ago.
[15] The documents that he submitted in relation to the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb largely relate to dealings between
Byron Prior and the St. John’s Newfoundland and Labrador office of
Patterson Palmer, which is not in the same province where Justice Webb
practiced law. The only document that indicates any dealing between
Mr. Amos and Patterson Palmer is a copy of an affidavit of Stephen May
who was a partner in the St. John’s NL office of Patterson Palmer. The
affidavit is dated January 24, 2005 and refers to a number of e-mails
that were sent by Mr. Amos to Stephen May. Mr. Amos also included a
letter that is addressed to four individuals, one of whom is John
Crosbie who was counsel to the St. John’s NL office of Patterson
Palmer. The letter is dated September 2, 2004 and is addressed to
“John Crosbie, c/o Greg G. Byrne, Suite 502, 570 Queen Street,
Fredericton, NB E3B 5E3”. In this letter Mr. Amos alludes to a
possible lawsuit against Patterson Palmer.
[16] Mr. Amos’ position is that simply because Justice Webb
was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer, he now has a conflict. In Wewaykum
Indian Band v. Her Majesty the Queen, 2003 SCC 45, [2003] 2 S.C.R.
259, the Supreme Court of Canada noted that disqualification of a
judge is to be determined based on whether there is a reasonable
apprehension of bias:
60 In Canadian law, one standard has now emerged as the
criterion for disqualification. The criterion, as expressed by de
Grandpré J. in Committee for Justice and Liberty v. National Energy
Board, …[[1978] 1 S.C.R. 369, 68 D.L.R. (3d) 716], at p. 394, is the
reasonable apprehension of bias:
… the apprehension of bias must be a reasonable one, held by
reasonable and right minded persons, applying themselves to the
question and obtaining thereon the required information. In the words
of the Court of Appeal, that test is "what would an informed person,
viewing the matter realistically and practically -- and having thought
the matter through -- conclude. Would he think that it is more likely
than not that [the decision-maker], whether consciously or
unconsciously, would not decide fairly."
[17] The issue to be determined is whether an informed
person, viewing the matter realistically and practically, and having
thought the matter through, would conclude that Mr. Amos’ allegations
give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias. As this Court has
previously remarked, “there is a strong presumption that judges will
administer justice impartially” and this presumption will not be
rebutted in the absence of “convincing evidence” of bias (Collins v.
Canada, 2011 FCA 140 at para. 7, [2011] 4 C.T.C. 157 [Collins]. See
also R. v. S. (R.D.), [1997] 3 S.C.R. 484 at para. 32, 151 D.L.R.
(4th) 193).
[18] The Ontario Court of Appeal in Rando Drugs Ltd. v.
Scott, 2007 ONCA 553, 86 O.R. (3d) 653 (leave to appeal to the Supreme
Court of Canada refused, 32285 (August 1, 2007)), addressed the
particular issue of whether a judge is disqualified from hearing a
case simply because he had been a member of a law firm that was
involved in the litigation that was now before that judge. The Ontario
Court of Appeal determined that the judge was not disqualified if the
judge had no involvement with the person or the matter when he was a
lawyer. The Ontario Court of Appeal also explained that the rules for
determining whether a judge is disqualified are different from the
rules to determine whether a lawyer has a conflict:
27 Thus, disqualification is not the natural corollary to a
finding that a trial judge has had some involvement in a case over
which he or she is now presiding. Where the judge had no involvement,
as here, it cannot be said that the judge is disqualified.
28 The point can rightly be made that had Mr. Patterson been
asked to represent the appellant as counsel before his appointment to
the bench, the conflict rules would likely have prevented him from
taking the case because his firm had formerly represented one of the
defendants in the case. Thus, it is argued how is it that as a trial
judge Patterson J. can hear the case? This issue was considered by the
Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in Locabail (U.K.) Ltd. v. Bayfield
Properties Ltd., [2000] Q.B. 451. The court held, at para. 58, that
there is no inflexible rule governing the disqualification of a judge
and that, "[e]verything depends on the circumstances."
29 It seems to me that what appears at first sight to be an
inconsistency in application of rules can be explained by the
different contexts and in particular, the strong presumption of
judicial impartiality that applies in the context of disqualification
of a judge. There is no such presumption in cases of allegations of
conflict of interest against a lawyer because of a firm's previous
involvement in the case. To the contrary, as explained by Sopinka J.
in MacDonald Estate v. Martin (1990), 77 D.L.R. (4th) 249 (S.C.C.),
for sound policy reasons there is a presumption of a disqualifying
interest that can rarely be overcome. In particular, a conclusory
statement from the lawyer that he or she had no confidential
information about the case will never be sufficient. The case is the
opposite where the allegation of bias is made against a trial judge.
His or her statement that he or she knew nothing about the case and
had no involvement in it will ordinarily be accepted at face value
unless there is good reason to doubt it: see Locabail, at para. 19.
30 That brings me then to consider the particular circumstances
of this case and whether there are serious grounds to find a
disqualifying conflict of interest in this case. In my view, there are
two significant factors that justify the trial judge's decision not to
recuse himself. The first is his statement, which all parties accept,
that he knew nothing of the case when it was in his former firm and
that he had nothing to do with it. The second is the long passage of
time. As was said in Wewaykum, at para. 85:
To us, one significant factor stands out, and must inform
the perspective of the reasonable person assessing the impact of this
involvement on Binnie J.'s impartiality in the appeals. That factor is
the passage of time. Most arguments for disqualification rest on
circumstances that are either contemporaneous to the decision-making,
or that occurred within a short time prior to the decision-making.
31 There are other factors that inform the issue. The Wilson
Walker firm no longer acted for any of the parties by the time of
trial. More importantly, at the time of the motion, Patterson J. had
been a judge for six years and thus had not had a relationship with
his former firm for a considerable period of time.
32 In my view, a reasonable person, viewing the matter
realistically would conclude that the trial judge could deal fairly
and impartially with this case. I take this view principally because
of the long passage of time and the trial judge's lack of involvement
in or knowledge of the case when the Wilson Walker firm had carriage.
In these circumstances it cannot be reasonably contended that the
trial judge could not remain impartial in the case. The mere fact that
his name appears on the letterhead of some correspondence from over a
decade ago would not lead a reasonable person to believe that he would
either consciously or unconsciously favour his former firm's former
client. It is simply not realistic to think that a judge would throw
off his mantle of impartiality, ignore his oath of office and favour a
client - about whom he knew nothing - of a firm that he left six years
earlier and that no longer acts for the client, in a case involving
events from over a decade ago.
(emphasis added)
[19] Justice Webb had no involvement with any matter
involving Mr. Amos while he was a member of Patterson Palmer or
Patterson Law, nor does Mr. Amos suggest that he did. Mr. Amos made it
clear during the hearing of this matter that the only reason for the
alleged conflict for Justice Webb was that he was a member of
Patterson Law and Patterson Palmer. This is simply not enough for
Justice Webb to be disqualified. Any involvement of Mr. Amos with
Patterson Law while Justice Webb was a member of that firm would have
had to occur over 10 years ago and even longer for the time when he
was a member of Patterson Palmer. In addition to the lack of any
involvement on his part with any matter or dispute that Mr. Amos had
with Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer (which in and of itself is
sufficient to dispose of this matter), the length of time since
Justice Webb was a member of Patterson Law or Patterson Palmer would
also result in the same finding – that there is no conflict in Justice
Webb hearing this appeal.
[20] Similarly in R. v. Bagot, 2000 MBCA 30, 145 Man. R.
(2d) 260, the Manitoba Court of Appeal found that there was no
reasonable apprehension of bias when a judge, who had been a member of
the law firm that had been retained by the accused, had no involvement
with the accused while he was a lawyer with that firm.
[21] In Del Zotto v. Minister of National Revenue, [2000] 4
F.C. 321, 257 N.R. 96, this court did find that there would be a
reasonable apprehension of bias where a judge, who while he was a
lawyer, had recorded time on a matter involving the same person who
was before that judge. However, this case can be distinguished as
Justice Webb did not have any time recorded on any files involving Mr.
Amos while he was a lawyer with Patterson Palmer or Patterson Law.
[22] Mr. Amos also included with his submissions a CD. He
stated in his affidavit dated June 26, 2017 that there is a “true copy
of an American police surveillance wiretap entitled 139” on this CD.
He has also indicated that he has “provided a true copy of the CD
entitled 139 to many American and Canadian law enforcement authorities
and not one of the police forces or officers of the court are willing
to investigate it”. Since he has indicated that this is an “American
police surveillance wiretap”, this is a matter for the American law
enforcement authorities and cannot create, as Mr. Amos suggests, a
conflict of interest for any judge to whom he provides a copy.
[23] As a result, there is no conflict or reasonable
apprehension of bias for Justice Webb and therefore, no reason for him
to recuse himself.
[24] Mr. Amos alleged that Justice Near’s past professional
experience with the government created a “quasi-conflict” in deciding
the cross-appeal. Mr. Amos provided no details and Justice Near
confirmed that he had no prior knowledge of the matters alleged in the
Claim. Justice Near sees no reason to recuse himself.
[25] Insofar as it is possible to glean the basis for Mr.
Amos’ allegations against Justice Gleason, it appears that he alleges
that she is incapable of hearing this appeal because he says he wrote
a letter to Brian Mulroney and Jean Chrétien in 2004. At that time,
both Justice Gleason and Mr. Mulroney were partners in the law firm
Ogilvy Renault, LLP. The letter in question, which is rude and angry,
begins with “Hey you two Evil Old Smiling Bastards” and “Re: me suing
you and your little dogs too”. There is no indication that the letter
was ever responded to or that a law suit was ever commenced by Mr.
Amos against Mr. Mulroney. In the circumstances, there is no reason
for Justice Gleason to recuse herself as the letter in question does
not give rise to a reasonable apprehension of bias.
III. Issue
[26] The issue on the cross-appeal is as follows: Did the
Judge err in setting aside the Prothonotary’s Order striking the Claim
in its entirety without leave to amend and in determining that Mr.
Amos’ allegation that the RCMP barred him from the New Brunswick
legislature in 2004 was capable of supporting a cause of action?
IV. Analysis
A. Standard of Review
[27] Following the Judge’s decision to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order, this Court revisited the standard of review to
be applied to discretionary decisions of prothonotaries and decisions
made by judges on appeals of prothonotaries’ decisions in Hospira
Healthcare Corp. v. Kennedy Institute of Rheumatology, 2016 FCA 215,
402 D.L.R. (4th) 497 [Hospira]. In Hospira, a five-member panel of
this Court replaced the Aqua-Gem standard of review with that
articulated in Housen v. Nikolaisen, 2002 SCC 33, [2002] 2 S.C.R. 235
[Housen]. As a result, it is no longer appropriate for the Federal
Court to conduct a de novo review of a discretionary order made by a
prothonotary in regard to questions vital to the final issue of the
case. Rather, a Federal Court judge can only intervene on appeal if
the prothonotary made an error of law or a palpable and overriding
error in determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and
law (Hospira at para. 79). Further, this Court can only interfere with
a Federal Court judge’s review of a prothonotary’s discretionary order
if the judge made an error of law or palpable and overriding error in
determining a question of fact or question of mixed fact and law
(Hospira at paras. 82-83).
[28] In the case at bar, the Judge substituted his own
assessment of Mr. Amos’ Claim for that of the Prothonotary. This Court
must look to the Prothonotary’s Order to determine whether the Judge
erred in law or made a palpable and overriding error in choosing to
interfere.
B. Did the Judge err in interfering with the
Prothonotary’s Order?
[29] The Prothontoary’s Order accepted the following
paragraphs from the Crown’s submissions as the basis for striking the
Claim in its entirety without leave to amend:
17. Within the 96 paragraph Statement of Claim, the Plaintiff
addresses his complaint in paragraphs 14-24, inclusive. All but four
of those paragraphs are dedicated to an incident that occurred in 2006
in and around the legislature in New Brunswick. The jurisdiction of
the Federal Court does not extend to Her Majesty the Queen in right of
the Provinces. In any event, the Plaintiff hasn’t named the Province
or provincial actors as parties to this action. The incident alleged
does not give rise to a justiciable cause of action in this Court.
(…)
21. The few paragraphs that directly address the Defendant
provide no details as to the individuals involved or the location of
the alleged incidents or other details sufficient to allow the
Defendant to respond. As a result, it is difficult or impossible to
determine the causes of action the Plaintiff is attempting to advance.
A generous reading of the Statement of Claim allows the Defendant to
only speculate as to the true and/or intended cause of action. At
best, the Plaintiff’s action may possibly be summarized as: he
suspects he is barred from the House of Commons.
[footnotes omitted].
[30] The Judge determined that he could not strike the Claim
on the same jurisdictional basis as the Prothonotary. The Judge noted
that the Federal Court has jurisdiction over claims based on the
liability of Federal Crown servants like the RCMP and that the actors
who barred Mr. Amos from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004
included the RCMP (Federal Court Judgment at para. 23). In considering
the viability of these allegations de novo, the Judge identified
paragraph 14 of the Claim as containing “some precision” as it
identifies the date of the event and a RCMP officer acting as
Aide-de-Camp to the Lieutenant Governor (Federal Court Judgment at
para. 27).
[31] The Judge noted that the 2004 event could support a
cause of action in the tort of misfeasance in public office and
identified the elements of the tort as excerpted from Meigs v. Canada,
2013 FC 389, 431 F.T.R. 111:
[13] As in both the cases of Odhavji Estate v Woodhouse, 2003 SCC
69 [Odhavji] and Lewis v Canada, 2012 FC 1514 [Lewis], I must
determine whether the plaintiffs’ statement of claim pleads each
element of the alleged tort of misfeasance in public office:
a) The public officer must have engaged in deliberate and unlawful
conduct in his or her capacity as public officer;
b) The public officer must have been aware both that his or her
conduct was unlawful and that it was likely to harm the plaintiff; and
c) There must be an element of bad faith or dishonesty by the public
officer and knowledge of harm alone is insufficient to conclude that a
public officer acted in bad faith or dishonestly.
Odhavji, above, at paras 23, 24 and 28
(Federal Court Judgment at para. 28).
[32] The Judge determined that Mr. Amos disclosed sufficient
material facts to meet the elements of the tort of misfeasance in
public office because the actors, who barred him from the New
Brunswick legislature in 2004, including the RCMP, did so for
“political reasons” (Federal Court Judgment at para. 29).
[33] This Court’s discussion of the sufficiency of pleadings
in Merchant Law Group v. Canada (Revenue Agency), 2010 FCA 184, 321
D.L.R (4th) 301 is particularly apt:
…When pleading bad faith or abuse of power, it is not enough to
assert, baldly, conclusory phrases such as “deliberately or
negligently,” “callous disregard,” or “by fraud and theft did steal”.
“The bare assertion of a conclusion upon which the court is called
upon to pronounce is not an allegation of material fact”. Making bald,
conclusory allegations without any evidentiary foundation is an abuse
of process…
To this, I would add that the tort of misfeasance in public office
requires a particular state of mind of a public officer in carrying
out the impunged action, i.e., deliberate conduct which the public
officer knows to be inconsistent with the obligations of his or her
office. For this tort, particularization of the allegations is
mandatory. Rule 181 specifically requires particularization of
allegations of “breach of trust,” “wilful default,” “state of mind of
a person,” “malice” or “fraudulent intention.”
(at paras. 34-35, citations omitted).
[34] Applying the Housen standard of review to the
Prothonotary’s Order, we are of the view that the Judge interfered
absent a legal or palpable and overriding error.
[35] The Prothonotary determined that Mr. Amos’ Claim
disclosed no reasonable claim and was fundamentally vexatious on the
basis of jurisdictional concerns and the absence of material facts to
ground a cause of action. Paragraph 14 of the Claim, which addresses
the 2004 event, pleads no material facts as to how the RCMP officer
engaged in deliberate and unlawful conduct, knew that his or her
conduct was unlawful and likely to harm Mr. Amos, and acted in bad
faith. While the Claim alleges elsewhere that Mr. Amos was barred from
the New Brunswick legislature for political and/or malicious reasons,
these allegations are not particularized and are directed against
non-federal actors, such as the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Legislative
Assembly of New Brunswick and the Fredericton Police Force. As such,
the Judge erred in determining that Mr. Amos’ allegation that the RCMP
barred him from the New Brunswick legislature in 2004 was capable of
supporting a cause of action.
[36] In our view, the Claim is made up entirely of bare
allegations, devoid of any detail, such that it discloses no
reasonable cause of action within the jurisdiction of the Federal
Courts. Therefore, the Judge erred in interfering to set aside the
Prothonotary’s Order striking the claim in its entirety. Further, we
find that the Prothonotary made no error in denying leave to amend.
The deficiencies in Mr. Amos’ pleadings are so extensive such that
amendment could not cure them (see Collins at para. 26).
V. Conclusion
[37] For the foregoing reasons, we would allow the Crown’s
cross-appeal, with costs, setting aside the Federal Court Judgment,
dated January 25, 2016 and restoring the Prothonotary’s Order, dated
November 12, 2015, which struck Mr. Amos’ Claim in its entirety
without leave to amend.
"Wyman W. Webb"
J.A.
"David G. Near"
J.A.
"Mary J.L. Gleason"
J.A.
FEDERAL COURT OF APPEAL
NAMES OF COUNSEL AND SOLICITORS OF RECORD
A CROSS-APPEAL FROM AN ORDER OF THE HONOURABLE JUSTICE SOUTHCOTT DATED
JANUARY 25, 2016; DOCKET NUMBER T-1557-15.
DOCKET:
A-48-16
STYLE OF CAUSE:
DAVID RAYMOND AMOS v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
PLACE OF HEARING:
Fredericton,
New Brunswick
DATE OF HEARING:
May 24, 2017
REASONS FOR JUDGMENT OF THE COURT BY:
WEBB J.A.
NEAR J.A.
GLEASON J.A.
DATED:
October 30, 2017
APPEARANCES:
David Raymond Amos
For The Appellant / respondent on cross-appeal
(on his own behalf)
Jan Jensen
For The Respondent / appELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
SOLICITORS OF RECORD:
Nathalie G. Drouin
Deputy Attorney General of Canada
For The Respondent / APPELLANT ON CROSS-APPEAL
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Utility with uneven record on innovation puts $7M into researching seawater's potential
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emitting greenhouse gases: turning seawater from the Bay of Chaleur into
energy.
CEO Gaëtan Thomas talked last month about converting the Belledune generating station to hydrogen power by 2030, after coal is phased out.
But the public utility is tight-lipped so far on its collaboration with Florida-based Joi Scientific, a start-up headquartered at the Kennedy Space Centre
"Unfortunately, it is too early in the process to be discussing details of this research and development project," said NB Power spokesperson Marie-Andrée Bolduc.
Joi Scientific's vice-president of marketing, Vicky Harris, said in an email statement that the company is "involved in multiple research projects, in many different sectors, but, as I am sure you would understand, we are not sharing details of our proprietary research and development work at this time."
On its website, the company calls hydrogen "the universe's most abundant element and the world's cleanest source of energy."
NB
Power CEO Gaëtan Thomas has suggested a hydrogen-powered Belledune
plant could lead to lower power rates for the utility's customers. (CBC)
Extracting
hydrogen from water and storing and transmitting it has been considered
too difficult and too expensive, but Joi Scientific says in a
promotional video that it "has solved the problems that have kept
hydrogen from being widely used for energy."
The company says on its site that its "hydrogen 2.0" process is "a very efficient extraction technology that will enable the localized production of hydrogen gas from water — safely, affordably and with no carbon emissions."
The $7 million is paying for further research into how Joi's technology would apply at NB Power's Belledune generating station, which sits less than 200 metres from the Bay of Chaleur on New Brunswick's north shore.
Thomas said last month that converting Belledune could cost "hundreds of millions" of dollars, but the eventual fuel supply would be a bargain.
"What's cheaper fuel than seawater?" he said. "There's plenty of it in New Brunswick."
The CEO even suggested a hydrogen-powered Belledune plant could lead to lower power rates for NB Power customers.
He called hydrogen "a very promising new fuel" but acknowledged the technology is still in the research and development phase. But he pointed out NB Power has 12 years to come up with a replacement fuel for Belledune.
The Belledune plant has to phase out its use of coal. (CBC)
The
federal government has set 2030 as the deadline for provinces to phase
out coal-powered electricity under its national climate plan.
CEO Gaëtan Thomas talked last month about converting the Belledune generating station to hydrogen power by 2030, after coal is phased out.
But the public utility is tight-lipped so far on its collaboration with Florida-based Joi Scientific, a start-up headquartered at the Kennedy Space Centre
"Unfortunately, it is too early in the process to be discussing details of this research and development project," said NB Power spokesperson Marie-Andrée Bolduc.
Joi Scientific's vice-president of marketing, Vicky Harris, said in an email statement that the company is "involved in multiple research projects, in many different sectors, but, as I am sure you would understand, we are not sharing details of our proprietary research and development work at this time."
On its website, the company calls hydrogen "the universe's most abundant element and the world's cleanest source of energy."
Once considered too difficult
The company says on its site that its "hydrogen 2.0" process is "a very efficient extraction technology that will enable the localized production of hydrogen gas from water — safely, affordably and with no carbon emissions."
The $7 million is paying for further research into how Joi's technology would apply at NB Power's Belledune generating station, which sits less than 200 metres from the Bay of Chaleur on New Brunswick's north shore.
Thomas said last month that converting Belledune could cost "hundreds of millions" of dollars, but the eventual fuel supply would be a bargain.
"What's cheaper fuel than seawater?" he said. "There's plenty of it in New Brunswick."
The CEO even suggested a hydrogen-powered Belledune plant could lead to lower power rates for NB Power customers.
He called hydrogen "a very promising new fuel" but acknowledged the technology is still in the research and development phase. But he pointed out NB Power has 12 years to come up with a replacement fuel for Belledune.
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Green Party Leader David Coon said
last month that it was "news to me" that hydrogen power could be
generated affordably enough to use in a power plant.
University of New Brunswick chemical engineering professor Willy Cook says turning hydrogen into energy is simple, but it's not necessarily cost-effective because the process itself requires a lot of electricity.
"You can't get something for nothing," he said. "Using electricity to produce hydrogen to go back to the process to produce electricity--that in itself probably isn't economically viable."
But he said he's not familiar with Joi Scientific's technology and it's possible the company has come up with "a more efficient process."
He also said if NB Power earned carbon credits for reducing emissions, hydrogen technology might become competitive with other energy sources.
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leaders in many areas," including the first Candu 6 nuclear generating
station at Point Lepreau and the first-of-its-kind high-voltage
direct-current converter station in Eel River.
But some of the utility's forays into new technologies have been costly.
NB Power spent $700 million refurbishing its Coleson Cove station to burn Orimulsion, only to see its supply agreement with a Venezuelan state-owned fuel company fall apart. The utility's lawsuit was eventually settled for $338 million.
And the refurbishment of Point Lepreau, the first upgrade of its kind, went $1 billion over budget and was three years late.
New Brunswick governments invested $4.7 million in a Saint John company, Atlantic Hydrogen, that went bankrupt in 2015. The company was trying to develop clean-energy technology but wasn't able to make it commercially viable.
Minister favours 'new direction'
Still, investors in the U.S., including Dean Woodman, a wealthy tech investor whose son founded GoPro, have put money into Joi Scientific.
"I was comfortable with my investment over two years ago and am even more so today," he told CBC News in an email.
NB Power's only alternative to converting Belledune would be to sign an equivalency agreement with Ottawa that would let it burn coal past 2030 in exchange for equivalent emissions reductions elsewhere. Nova Scotia signed such a deal in 2016.
But Energy Minister Rick Doucet said last month that the province prefers to "move in a new direction [with] something that's very innovative, and we've got a great opportunity right on our doorstep."
University of New Brunswick chemical engineering professor Willy Cook says turning hydrogen into energy is simple, but it's not necessarily cost-effective because the process itself requires a lot of electricity.
"You can't get something for nothing," he said. "Using electricity to produce hydrogen to go back to the process to produce electricity--that in itself probably isn't economically viable."
But he said he's not familiar with Joi Scientific's technology and it's possible the company has come up with "a more efficient process."
He also said if NB Power earned carbon credits for reducing emissions, hydrogen technology might become competitive with other energy sources.
"I have faith in the NB Power engineers to come through and do that assessment properly," he said.
Some costly efforts
But some of the utility's forays into new technologies have been costly.
NB Power spent $700 million refurbishing its Coleson Cove station to burn Orimulsion, only to see its supply agreement with a Venezuelan state-owned fuel company fall apart. The utility's lawsuit was eventually settled for $338 million.
And the refurbishment of Point Lepreau, the first upgrade of its kind, went $1 billion over budget and was three years late.
New Brunswick governments invested $4.7 million in a Saint John company, Atlantic Hydrogen, that went bankrupt in 2015. The company was trying to develop clean-energy technology but wasn't able to make it commercially viable.
Minister favours 'new direction'
Still, investors in the U.S., including Dean Woodman, a wealthy tech investor whose son founded GoPro, have put money into Joi Scientific.
"I was comfortable with my investment over two years ago and am even more so today," he told CBC News in an email.
NB Power's only alternative to converting Belledune would be to sign an equivalency agreement with Ottawa that would let it burn coal past 2030 in exchange for equivalent emissions reductions elsewhere. Nova Scotia signed such a deal in 2016.
But Energy Minister Rick Doucet said last month that the province prefers to "move in a new direction [with] something that's very innovative, and we've got a great opportunity right on our doorstep."
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