David Raymond Amos @DavidRayAmos
Replying to @DavidRayAmos @Kathryn98967631 and 47 others
Methinks most of the Mi'kmaq folks have no clue as to why I ran against Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett's predecessor Andy Scott for his seat in the 39th Parliament N'esy Pas?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/province-feds-aboriginal-title-1.5130685
Federal minister wants province to work with Mi'kmaq and Ottawa on Aboriginal title in New Brunswick
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David R. Amos
Methinks the Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett should explain to the folks in New Brunswick who Annie Mae Aquash, Leonard Peltier and Barry Bachrach are and why I ran against her predecessor Andy Scott in the election of the 39th Parliament N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Methinks it's a waste of time and money to make a MOU with a desperate Cabinet Minister trying to buy a few votes before she loses her fancy job and the matter goes into the court system for many years N'esy Pas?
Craig O'Donnell
So is the federal government prepared to buy out the properties of every non-native living in that area?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Craig O'Donnell: Methinks the lady speaks with a forked tongue her MOU will go nowhere fast N'esy Pas?
James Gladstone
Like it or not, this is 2019 not 1700's, so we either accept WE all live here, WE r not all native, such is the reality of 2019. Another reality, WE all must pay fair share of taxes and whatnots to take part in things like medicine and paved roads ect.... U want to hunt and fish like 1700's, u should b prepared to live like 1700's! So off the woods with their deer skin pants and axes made from rocks ect..... Maybe a bit xtreme on examples but none the less this is another something stupid to get headlines and keep people off kilter about real problems.
David R. Amos
Reply to @James
gladstone: Methinks its truly amazing what portion of out tax dollars
directed to support the First Nations folks is squandered by wealthy
lawyers gaming the system N'esy Pas?
Samual Johnston
some council members make $100,000 or more a year while others collect pennies. Some have poor housing while others have second homes on lakes. The system is broken and the majority do not benefit
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Samual Johnston: and the governments do absolutely nothing about it.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Why should it? Methinks its their business not ours
Furthermore who are we to judge because it certainly appears that they
run their governments just like we do N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Samual Johnston: "The system is broken and the majority do not benefit"
Methinks legions of political lawyers such as Bob Rae, TJ Burke and Kelly Lamrock will work hard to make certain the system is never fixed Jody Wilson Raybould talked the talk like her Father but once she had her chance she proved to be just another greedy lawyer N'esy Pas?
Methinks legions of political lawyers such as Bob Rae, TJ Burke and Kelly Lamrock will work hard to make certain the system is never fixed Jody Wilson Raybould talked the talk like her Father but once she had her chance she proved to be just another greedy lawyer N'esy Pas?
Bob Lashram
After countless waves of migrants, on every piece of land in the world, the argument of ownership based on first residence has no legitimacy. And how many times did the hundreds of tribes change locations themselves based on their own conflicts and migratory lifestyles. Politicians use this issue for purely partisan spin and ideological accolades, lawyers use it for profit and the judicial system remains a biased collection of partisan appointees who can't be trusted to demonstrate common sense.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @Bob Lashram: Very common sense of you. Now if only common sense could be taught. It can't.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Shawn McShane: common sense today is not the same as yesterday nor tomorrow.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Not true
Sandra Boudreau
Does it ever end? have we ever given enough????????
SteveRyan
Reply to @Sandra Boudreau:
It all depends on who is in Ottawa and if they know how to say no.
It all depends on who is in Ottawa and if they know how to say no.
David R. Amos
Reply to @SteveRyan: True
Ron Battiston
We
have a few problems in Canada over land ownership. Lets start with our
Queen. We all love our Queen. Our Queen legally owns Canada. As a
Publisher I was a bit surprised when we did our book on Canadian real
estate and found out that when you pay for a home and complete all the
payments that you don't actually own it the Queen does. When I owned our
48 foot sailboat a Canadian registered vessel I was surprised to learn
that even after I paid for it I was not the only owner of it our Queen
owned a portion of it too. You might be surprised at what I am sharing
with you and all I can suggest is that if you don't believe me check it
out yourself. When we get to our First Nations they owned the property
thousands of years ago until Canada was founded. But we didn't have a
war with them over the property and take it into our ownership. Nor did
we buy it. We entered into agreements most of which we neglected to
follow. There are now over 640 First Nations Reserves in Canada. So
where is the answer here? I don't have a clue. I like this Minister
and she places her heart and soul into her job but I don't think she has
the answer either. I do feel that our First Nations should have joint
ownership of the non renewable resources in their areas. There is lots
of money in that. But how do you set the portions? And once the
resources are sold they are gone forever. Canada is over 150 years old
and we still have been unable to solve this simple problem. I hope that
it gets solved. I support our First Nations.
KEITH FUHR
Reply to @Ron
Battiston: Entitlements don't cut it anymore, respect has to be earned
by all including the Royals. We need to convert to a republic.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Ron Battiston: I agree with everything you started, except that I don't love Your queen! What a malarkey!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: "I don't love Your queen!"
Methinks common sense tells us all that one Queen would not love another N'esy Pas?
Methinks common sense tells us all that one Queen would not love another N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Ron
Battiston: Methinks the Queen is our de facto Head of State. She rule in
name only. In return for homage she allows her face on our money and is
a target for litigation etc. However she does not own Canada. WE DO.
That "WE" includes the First Nations folks and the rest of Canada's
citizens N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ron Battiston: Oh my why was my reply blocked?
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ron Battiston: Look up de facto
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ron Battiston: "Honesty and Accuracy is what we are searching for!"
Perhaps you should check my work
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Perhaps you should check my work
https://www.scribd.com/doc/2718120/integrity-yea-right
Mark (Junkman) George
I'm kind of wondering, and looking around, to see if someone is lurking around to cue up a laugh track?
Sure JT, send a MP to NB to grovel for some votes, best make it quick though, don't want to ruin any summer holiday plans.
Beware of pale face (with forked tongue) bearing talk and apologies, who will be looking for a new line of work in October (he broke his promises to us too).
Sure JT, send a MP to NB to grovel for some votes, best make it quick though, don't want to ruin any summer holiday plans.
Beware of pale face (with forked tongue) bearing talk and apologies, who will be looking for a new line of work in October (he broke his promises to us too).
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Mark (Junkman) George: Enjoy
Marguerite
Deschamps
Thanks for saving us from fracking!
David R.
Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Yea Right The price of natural gas went way down and SWN ran
out of money Everybody knows that.
Shawn McShane
Reply to @David R. Amos: We are going to need that gas when global warming doesn't pan out.
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @David R.
Amos: that is true too. Never understood what SWN was going here for
natural gas while the US is awash in it.
Chuck Steeves
CBC
#ShameOnYou for reporting Jake Stewart knew but didn't show up. You
know that the federal minister chose a date when the minority government
minister had to be in the Legislature; no choice, the facts of a
minority government. The federal Liberal Trudeau Minister knew this. And
CBC is complicit with the Liberal Party of Canada political games.
Shame.
David R.
Amos
Reply to @Chuck Steeves: Welcome to the Circus
Roy
Nicholl
If Jake Stewart was sent an invitation on April 25, how is it he's claiming to only have found out the night before?
Chuck Steeves
Reply to @Roy
Nicholl: notice that the federal minister chose a date when the minority
government minister had to be in the Legislature; no choice, the facts
of a minority government. The federal Liberal Trudeau Minister knew
this. And CBC is complicit with the Liberal Party of Canada political
games. Shame.
David R.
Amos
Reply to @Roy
Nicholl: Methinks i should ask when was the last time you believed
anything any politician said about anything N'esy Pas?
Roy
Nicholl
Reply to @Chuck Steeves:
Having to be in the Legislature, still does not explain how he did not know about it in the intervening two weeks. If he could not attend, he had the opportunity to send a representative from his office.
Having to be in the Legislature, still does not explain how he did not know about it in the intervening two weeks. If he could not attend, he had the opportunity to send a representative from his office.
Ian Scott
Well
given state of NB as it exits guess they can have it. No money of
course. So that might change their mind. What a ridiculous thing to
bring up now.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ian Scott: I concur
Ian Scott
Reply to @David R. Amos: Next 3 got disabled so pretty sensitive these Liberal are I guess.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ian Scott: I'm blocked all the time
David R. Amos
Reply to @Ian Scott:
Methinks every political animal in Fredericton knows that Kevin Vickers
managed to have his fellow Sgt at Arms bar me from all the
parliamentary properties in Canada in 2005 for the benefit of all the
political parties N'esy Pas?
Samual Johnston
Reply to @David R.
Amos: David I follow your comments. Mostly agree. Just when reading a
lot of them the repeated methinks and nesy pas get hard to read so many
times. Just a friendly comment from a follower.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Samual Johnston: quite annoying ! He does it in spite.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks I am a raging success N'esy Pas?
David R. Amos
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Reply to @Samual
Johnston: FYI If you understand how search engines work then were to
surf those words you may understand the reason why I do what I do. BTW I
laugh my **** off every time some Anglo snob corrects me.
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David R. Amos: you can afford to do it given that you will never even get close to get elected.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Samual Johnston: FYI my reply was blocked
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you don't have the first clue about ethical conduct N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David R. Amos: do tell us Mr. Reincarnation of ethical conduct!
Samual Johnston
This
section is gonna end up in court in todays gender neutral world.
"The section says treaty rights include rights arising from land-claim
agreements and are guaranteed to males and females."
David R. Amos
Reply to @Samual Johnston: Good point
Samual Johnston
I
know it is politically incorrect to say so but we all come from people
who were booted out of someplace and have ancestors who were treated
terribly. I honestly believe the time has come to call it quits and
just do a lump sum payment to each one and let the cards fall where they
may - well maybe not that drastic but it just makes no sense. I just
hope JT does not give everything away because of the upcoming election.
Marguerite
Deschamps
Reply to @Samual Johnston: he can't give away what did not belong to us. It was taken away from them. It must be restored.
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: well I dunno....sure they were here first - does not mean
they own it. - at one time my ancestors owned part of the isle of Sky in
Scotland but were chased out. time to adapt to today -
Jimmy
Moore
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: To be fair they also took it from the tribe prior to them in
the same manner we took it, and there were another three or 4 tribes
wiped out prior by the following, its known archeologically, so who do
we give it back to, none of the original land owners are around.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Cry me another river
David R. Amos
Reply to @Jimmy
Moore: Methinks you should define who "We" is because the French dudes
were here before the English were and they were followed by many
Scottish and the Irish folks and many more nationalities since then
N'esy Pas? While you are at it please name the three or four other
tribes you are oh so concerned about will ya?
Ian Scott
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Who says it belonged to them.? Wandering tribes with no known fixed address.
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Jimmy
Moore: ya know that is a pretty good point - so in their reality the
last tribe who was on location X has claim to it. It would be
interesting to see how territories changed hands.
Joe Campbell
Talk to Irving he owns the land
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Joe campbell: and all along they tried to make us believe that it belonged to the Crown.
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Joe campbell: hate to say it but I'd prefer Irving own it if the Crown can't
Jimmy Moore
Reply to @Samual Johnston: Irving has done more damage to Atlantic Canada than anyone in history to be honest.
Marguerite Deschamps Posted something nasty but it was gone when I refreshed the page
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you folks want to forget the little hoedown on the Plains of Abraham N'esy Pas?
Samual Johnston
Reply to @Jimmy Moore: give it time I am sure others could do worse
David R. Amos
Reply to @Jimmy Moore: "Irving has done more damage to Atlantic Canada than anyone in history to be honest.'
Methinks many folks are wondering what is with your sudden fit of honesty N'esy Pas?
Methinks many folks are wondering what is with your sudden fit of honesty N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
The Crown never kept it's part of the bargain and always spoke with forked tongue.
Jimmy Moore
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Kind of like the current liberals, this is all just
posturing, they can't give the land away legally, and even if they
wanted to they don't have the time to do it as they will be out in
October, Plus all the current land owners will have to be reimbursed
for their lands that they legally own at market value, who is going to
pay for it, NOT ME!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite
Deschamps: Methinks here are legions of ghosts who wish Samuel de
Champlain never came to the "New World" and founded New France N'esy
Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David R. Amos: neither, Samuel, neither Cabot, nor Cortez.
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: They didn't mind my ancestors
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David R. Amos: so you say!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: A fact is a fact
Dan Lee
Reply to @Jimmy Moore
current land owners...hahagha.........legally own...haha good one........probably taken from Acadians who got along with the natives
current land owners...hahagha.........legally own...haha good one........probably taken from Acadians who got along with the natives
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @Dan Lee: yup!
David R. Amos
Reply to @Marguerite Deschamps: Methinks you have no clue as to why I ran against Andy Scott in Fat Fred City N'esy Pas?
Marguerite Deschamps
Reply to @David R. Amos: if I were you, I would run towards the Bay of Fundy.
Marguerite Deschamps
... as fast as you can!
Federal minister wants province to work with Mi'kmaq and Ottawa on Aboriginal title in New Brunswick
It's a waste of time and money to go through the court system to settle claims, says minister
Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister
Carolyn Bennett hopes the New Brunswick government will work with the
federal government and the Mi'kmaq on Aboriginal title in New Brunswick.
"This is a bilateral arrangement and we have to do what we believe is the best way forward and with the government of New Brunswick, we really hope we can work with them as partners," Bennett said in an interview with Information Morning Fredericton.
"We would very much love for them to be at the table and for us to arrive at an agreement with them as well."
The federal government and Elsipogtog First Nation signed a memorandum of understanding Thursday to start discussions about the Mi'kmaq claim of Aboriginal title to a third of New Brunswick.
"We have to work together in collaboration, and that brings us here today," said Elsipogtog Chief Arren Sock at the announcement Thursday. "We must negotiate or come to some understanding."
Jake Stewart, aboriginal affairs minister for New Brunswick, did not attend Thursday's announcement even though he was invited. Stewart was sent an invitation on April 25 to be part of the memorandum of understanding.
He said Friday that the provincial government wasn't part of the memorandum of understanding discussions prior to that, but he knew discussions were taking place.
The announcement "kind of came as a surprise to me," Stewart said. "I found out the night before and I would have probably gone down and been a part of it, if I didn't have cabinet at 9 o'clock in the morning."
Stewart said he's happy for Elsibogtog and is willing to work with the federal government and the Mi'kmaq going forward.
"I'm totally open to having this discussion."
Elsipogtog
Chief Arren Sock and Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn
Bennett pose for photographs with the signed memorandums of
understanding. (CBC)
Bennett said the memorandum of understanding represents the beginning of conversations.
"It's the beginning of moving from an approach that has failed Canada forever in terms of denial of rights into an approach where we begin recognizing and affirming the rights," Bennett said.
Elsipogtog filed a claim in 2016 for Aboriginal title to a part of the province the Mi'kmaq call Sikniktuk, which encompasses the southeastern part of New Brunswick. That title would give the Mi'kmaq more say regarding the management of the land, resources and fisheries in the Sikniktuk region.
"This is what the original Peace and Friendship treaties were meant to do," Bennett said.
Peace and Friendship treaties were signed between Britain and Mi'kmaq, Wolastoqiyik, Abenaki, Penobscot and Passamaquoddy in the mid-1700s. The agreements recognized hunting, fishing and land-use rights to First Nations on the East Coast.
Bennett said it's a waste of time and money to go through the court system to settle land claims, and she said Canadians prefer a collaborative approach to working with First Nations, Inuit and Métis, rather than an adversarial one.
A map of the Sikniktuk Aboriginal title claim area. (CBC)
"Spending a lot of time and a lot of money in court to lose doesn't help anybody."
The memorandum of understanding is about implementing the rights that are protected in Section 35 of the Constitution Act, Bennett said. Section 35 affirms existing Aboriginal and treaty rights and defines Aboriginal peoples in Canada. The section says treaty rights include rights arising from land-claim agreements and are guaranteed to males and females.
"This is a reality now that Section 35 rights aren't optional and that we need to be able to work together, both as a federal government with all provincial and territorial governments and with the rights holders, the First Nations, Inuit and the Metis," Bennett said.
"We'd be in a lot better shape if we'd listened to First Nations and the first peoples of this land at the beginning."
"This is a bilateral arrangement and we have to do what we believe is the best way forward and with the government of New Brunswick, we really hope we can work with them as partners," Bennett said in an interview with Information Morning Fredericton.
"We would very much love for them to be at the table and for us to arrive at an agreement with them as well."
The federal government and Elsipogtog First Nation signed a memorandum of understanding Thursday to start discussions about the Mi'kmaq claim of Aboriginal title to a third of New Brunswick.
"We have to work together in collaboration, and that brings us here today," said Elsipogtog Chief Arren Sock at the announcement Thursday. "We must negotiate or come to some understanding."
Jake Stewart, aboriginal affairs minister for New Brunswick, did not attend Thursday's announcement even though he was invited. Stewart was sent an invitation on April 25 to be part of the memorandum of understanding.
He said Friday that the provincial government wasn't part of the memorandum of understanding discussions prior to that, but he knew discussions were taking place.
The announcement "kind of came as a surprise to me," Stewart said. "I found out the night before and I would have probably gone down and been a part of it, if I didn't have cabinet at 9 o'clock in the morning."
Stewart said he's happy for Elsibogtog and is willing to work with the federal government and the Mi'kmaq going forward.
"I'm totally open to having this discussion."
Sparking a conversation
Bennett said the memorandum of understanding represents the beginning of conversations.
"It's the beginning of moving from an approach that has failed Canada forever in terms of denial of rights into an approach where we begin recognizing and affirming the rights," Bennett said.
Elsipogtog filed a claim in 2016 for Aboriginal title to a part of the province the Mi'kmaq call Sikniktuk, which encompasses the southeastern part of New Brunswick. That title would give the Mi'kmaq more say regarding the management of the land, resources and fisheries in the Sikniktuk region.
"This is what the original Peace and Friendship treaties were meant to do," Bennett said.
Peace and Friendship treaties were signed between Britain and Mi'kmaq, Wolastoqiyik, Abenaki, Penobscot and Passamaquoddy in the mid-1700s. The agreements recognized hunting, fishing and land-use rights to First Nations on the East Coast.
Bennett said it's a waste of time and money to go through the court system to settle land claims, and she said Canadians prefer a collaborative approach to working with First Nations, Inuit and Métis, rather than an adversarial one.
The memorandum of understanding is about implementing the rights that are protected in Section 35 of the Constitution Act, Bennett said. Section 35 affirms existing Aboriginal and treaty rights and defines Aboriginal peoples in Canada. The section says treaty rights include rights arising from land-claim agreements and are guaranteed to males and females.
"This is a reality now that Section 35 rights aren't optional and that we need to be able to work together, both as a federal government with all provincial and territorial governments and with the rights holders, the First Nations, Inuit and the Metis," Bennett said.
"We'd be in a lot better shape if we'd listened to First Nations and the first peoples of this land at the beginning."
With files from Information Morning Fredericton
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